Right my so call friend was jealous of me saying that she don’t want to be my friend no more cuz I more far away the real reason was that it was over a boy because he liked me in she got mad
Lol THIS. Tbh it's kind of why I like Karamo. Talkshows so often pit people against each other, reducing things to good v bad. In truth relationships are complicated, and sometimes it's just a case of not acknowledging and hearing. Which we're all guilty of.
I mean, once your friend gets married, you can’t constantly ask her to go clubbing or hanging out all the time. You have to respect their marriage. I get it. All my friends are married and I’m still single so I always just wait for them to have the time to hang out and our friendship is still going strong!
no fr someone getting married is def never an excuse to end a friendship. the wife was just making a bunch of excuses , she clearly started feelin herself when she landed the pro baller and left her friend in the dust
Understood… but everyone is not the same…. Even if you are married.. I’m pretty sure that you can still make the time to check on and hangout with your friend… being married is not a good - great reason why you can’t hang out with a friend that genuinely loves and cares about you like a brother or sister. Also I don’t mean this in a negative attitude.
This the comment right here! All of it. Lol I ain’t gonna lie, I miss my friends who are married and engaged now, but they should be allowed to live their lives.
U still ain got to ghost a friend try to have a convo with them RESPECTFULLY . U can tell the other friend think she’s better than the other one bc she married a ball player
Facts! Married people have different priorities. I wouldn’t want someone banging on about how I don’t want to go to the club. I would ignore her too. Can’t we go to lunch or just hang? A friend should support her marriage!
There’s a difference between setting boundaries and distancing yourself. When boundaries are set it’s communicated. She set boundaries within herself and moved how she wanted to without explanation. That was very clear in this 🤦🏾♀️
Ngl. I prejudged the friend who “leveled up” but after hearing her talk, I side with her. The old friend didn’t respect boundaries and was messy with her words. Folks who are in a growing season don’t always want to drink and party. This is why it’s important to hear both sides of a fractured relationship.
Exactly her friend is mad annoying nobody wants to hear all that smart talk and condescending about my choices and my life. Go ask your man all that is too much I would have stop hanging with her too. She too old not to understand things change it’s not always about you.
@@LoveAngel333 exactly … it isn’t always about you, friendships do go through gaps or fade away because people are going through life experiences and circumstances. I’m in a space where I’m very introverted because of recent experiences. Just need the alone time but I still stay in touch and acknowledge my friends, just not as physically present.
And when she was going through it at her lowest her friend was there to pick her up FOR THAT new man. And now her friend is tossed to the side bc she don’t wanna “lose” him if she can’t hang out and actually be a friend to her that ain’t no “good” man.
You can’t make someone be your friend. Respect the friendship for what it was when it was. Be your own friend, respect yourself and the wishes of your former friend. The conversation on display shows why homegirl in the brown kept her distance. Good job on the host for helping the woman in the black to see one of the issues.
Though the dynamics of the friendship rightfully changed after marriage, it is pretty obvious the tan dress has an uppitiness about her. She likely has a "new circle" of friends which puts her in a new social league. Ms. Black Dress should develop maturity and pride and move on with her life. She doesn't need to beg friendship from tan dress.
💔 People do switch up when they get into relationships or get married. Some people use friends as placeholders until they level up. I feel sorry for the friend but it's a lesson many of us have to learn. Don't beg nobody to be in your life.
I’m sorry…Carmetha is full of it. When Bianca brings up she would say “can you ask your husband for permission?” She said “yeah, you know why I said that…” @7:35. Then when Bianca mentioned it again, Carmetha said “I ain’t never said that, girl bye” @9:45. She trying to call someone out for not changing when she CLEARLY ain’t changed. Bianca need to keep pushing with her life & let that friendship stay back in 2013
A real friend don’t bring up what they did for u all the time.. if a real friend do something for you they’ll do it from the heart just off the love they don’t throw it in your face when things don’t go they way
@@soniaharrison1016it is but it’s hurtful when the children also bond with each other. When you really love each other as friends and it’s sincere it will last thru your lifetime
She went from trying to explain why she said “ ask your husband’s permission” to saying she never said it. Honey it’s giving obsessed just a bit. Carmita is clearly older than her and should understand exploring new relationships and communication. But then again not everybody knows/ understands these things so it is what it is. But ten years later is wild
@sabrinasmith1182 I'm not married but I have a steady person. My bestie who's male has been married 18yrs and his wife is absolutely lovely. She has never gotten in the way, been offended, that's her man. I respect her and love her equally we go on dates, we can be alone with trust. That's just normal to us but I really can't imagine overstepping. Even saying gotten in the way is like 🤢 I moved so he could grow and came back when they were solid and we have built a great foundation for lifelong friends. People crazy out here. Or maybe it's me.
@@BRI2020-d8xMarried people who only surround themselves with other married people be the main ones crying when their married friends dump them once they get divorced. Basing your friendships off marital status is a foolish move.
Never go where you are not wanted. The lady in the black outfit needs to get some self esteem and move on. There will be someone out there who appreciates her friendship. It's important she works on being happy friends or no friends. Life is for living 💖
I feel like I'm in wonderland with Alice. If some of you think the chick in black is an example of a good friend, good luck with having any serious romantic relationships. I didn't hear they were BEST friends. They were WORK friends. One got married and had a kid. She CLEARLY said she didn't stop speaking to her bc she got married. She stopped speaking to her bc after she told her she didn't want to club and party every conversation became snide comments about her relationship and her not "having permission" to do things. She got tired of having the same conversation and the chick not respecting her boundaries. The chick in black went from saying she knew why she said that to denying she said it. A blind man can see she's toxic and wants attention. Ten years later and you're still looking for attention?! I wouldn't have even come on the show to defend myself against this crap.
No. She already had a kid. The woman in black took the other chick under her wing. She said they were just work friends at first but then ended up becoming best friends. Their daughters were even close. The girl met a successful man and she started acting funny. Not even inviting the other woman's daughter to her little girls birthday party. To me that was the pettiest of all! To me, the chick in the tan dress had an attitude as soon as she walked out.
@@taryndoiron3971 she said she uninvited her from the birthday party because she wouldn’t respect her boundaries! She got tired of her snide remarks. The lady in the tan dress was over her as soon as the lady in the black said “talk to the hand”… I wouldn’t be able to take a grown woman seriously if she did such childish behavior either. The lady in black must be single and still living in the mentality of “let’s get this party started” at 40 years old!! 😂 Some people mature and want more out of life than “let’s get this party started” especially after marriage and kids. They are no longer on the same level of maturity. I would leave her behind as well. We are not headed in the same direction of success. 🤷🏽♀️
I befriended an older woman who used to shade me like that about my husband. She would make silly comments like "you can't do nothing" your husband this...and your husband that from a Judemental point of view. All the while she's as single as a blade of grass. I would pick up vibes of jealousy and her wanting my undivided attention.. it started to get really weird. She started to not have boundaries like this older woman. Needless to say I cut the cord on that relationship.
She OUTGREW her. Elevation requires separation. She now has the mindset of a wife and mother. Being the wife of a successful man (successful or not) you have to let go of anyone who bring unnecessary drama and negativity. After 10 years she still haven’t matured, lack effective communication skills and the ability to control her emotions. She need extensive therapy before she can be anyone’s friend. She needs to learn to love herself first. She’s jealous that her ex-friend is happy and found a husband. If she put that same energy into herself then just maybe she can find happiness too. Gurl leave her where she’s at and continue to enjoy your peace!
Exactly! The lady in the tan dress as matured past her. She was done with her when she threw up her hand and said “talk to the hand”. I wouldn’t be able to take an adult seriously with that behavior either. One has chosen to mature and have a family. The other is still in the “let’s get this party started” mindset. They have outgrown each other. I wouldn’t let anyone try to destroy my marriage and success either. We are not the same. Lady in the black needs to find her own people. Lady in the tan is not at that immature mindset anymore…..
My childhood bestie up till high school was my ACE! We dressed a like, dated other best friends, everything. She got married at 19 and I couldn't pay her to come by or have our kids to play when we was in our 20's... I let it go... fast forward, I was like 35 and her sister begged me and a couple of her other good friends to come to her bday party because she was divorced... now she's married again, haven't seen her since... still love her but I would never rush to be by her side since I know she don't fool with ppl when she got a man...
@@MzCandyApple5683 True some people just don’t think they should do certain things anymore . And I’m sure she didn’t want to be bumping into her husband looking thirsty in clubs
One of my friends told me that I am like the only friend she has left because when she started having children, I was the only one who understood (although I have none of my own) that she doesn’t have the same amount of time she used to have to hang out and be on the phone, and therefore allowed her to reach out when she was ready. The others became upset with her. 🤦🏾♀️
She really doesnt have to give an explanation of her boundaries. She said NO and that is a complete sentence. The friend didn't respect her, her marriage, and felt like she owed her something. Plus, the communication is poor and its more hurt speaking than love. Sometimes marriages do end friendships. Facts of life.
@@brecamilla5451 your FRIEND will also respect NO full stop. Anything else is entitlement because she doesn't owe any furthrr explanation. NO explains itself. It's Because I said NO. You saying NO is the only explanation a FRIEND SISTER OR ANYBODY NEEDS. You are enough and so is your NO.
@@iamtracywilson you do owe further explanation, it’s curtesy bc that’s your friend. you don’t have to but it is nice…. y’all mad weird like this is literally basic shi. if u see ya friend confused on why you can’t, a simple explanation would do some good within the friendship
@@iamtracywilson but i can see how u are when u said “owe” her something. you definitely owe your loved ones common courtesy and understanding. but again she should’ve understood her boundaries as well.
@@brecamilla5451 the word is OWE... courtesy if you want to but you dont have to! This is basic, so either you get it or you dont. This is why some people stay confused looking for an explanation.. 🤣 you may never get one besides their no.. doesnt mean they dont love you if they dont tell you more than that. That is something your mind put as an expectation for them to do.. everyone does not live in expectations so this helps people stay in control and out of confusion. NO is the explanation. Anything else is human emotion and rational to justify the NO which can stand on its own. COURTESY is just that.. people can say no and give no further reason and still love you. Hope that makes sense.
@@Unknown-vy3do Everyone changes, it called maturity. Why would a married woman be out clubbing and hanging with her single friends? Also, she said she disinvited her from her childs party because the friend wanted to come over and try to check her husband. The friend is jealous and miserable.
I was once the “betrayed” friend and took me a looooong time to accept that the friendship was over. I thought she’d come around and all I needed to do was to give her space as her life had taken a different direction. Lo and behold, I found myself waiting forever! I never got an explanation as to what happened & I pretty much never saw her again (she wouldn’t repond to my messages). I became resentful and bitter because of how much of a loyal and good friend I had been to her for her to cast me out like it was nothing. My acceptance and healing began when I forgave her and myself; I let go of the friendship and the idea that we would someday reconcile and I prayed about it. My next major friendship breakup didn’t take me as long to process and let go of because I had already learnt my lessons from the previous one. I’m still learning and won’t stop being a good friend; but now it comes with boundaries and balance so that I never have to feel like the next person owed me anything for my loyalty. It’s hard and it’s painful. But we live and we pray and we grow from these experiences. I donor regret any of them and the seasons they we shared.
I had a friend like this who blamed me for everything that happened in our friendship since childhood, yet she never took any responsibility for anything that she did.
I felt a borderline obsession. I get the demeanor the girl in the brown dress had but let not act like we didn't just witness that lady have a bipolar episode she laughed cried got mad came back and did it all over again. She might be a good friend but they live in two different worlds and if she can't get it together I wouldn't blame the girl in the brown for just leaving that situation. She lives differently now
Agreed. She really came in here and claimed to miss someone and then aggressively flipped out on her when she came out. I’d ditch her, too! She’s jealous and it’s crazy!
Carmetha (sp?) has some issues and could benefit from therapy… I imagine she has issues with most (if not all) of her relationships. She seems emotionally immature and has trouble communicating… a recipe for disaster. I would’ve left her in the wind too if I was trying to elevate my life and she wasn’t growing as a person. I don’t see this friendship going anywhere, but I wish them both well ❤
It is time to move on and it's okay, everything is just for a season. You are both leading different lives with different priorities so wish each other well and move on to living YOUR best life because time marches on
Carmetha is rude talking bout talk to the hand, the nerve of her and if a friend of mine kept saying asking me to ask my husband if i can go out I would be done with her since she can't respect the marriage, she was trying to have control!!! She needs a husband bad to focus her energy on, she has no one to focus on and the one person that she did focus on became taken and married!!!
Carmetha has serious attitude issues, she comes across as controlling!! I would have to exit that friendship, no one has time to jump to her every demand especially since when getting married your priorities change and with the way she comes across to her friend with her negative demeanor I would be done too!!! Marriage itself is work and no one has time for that childish behavior!!! She's jealous of her friend,
This is typical of many women. People will use you as a friend until a better opportunity as a man comes. The lady in the brown dress was getting annoyed, didn’t need her advice anymore, & ghosted her. This lady needs to let it go. Friendship takes work and time and are important. The lady who wants the friendship is passive aggressive.
This is what I call a struggle friendship. As long as you are doing bad and going through something these friends are always around. They are good to you, want to hang out and its all about the girls. However, the young lady should have set clear boundaries when she found a real relationship . Speaking from a married person, my single friends know when and what to invite me to. We schedule 1 day a month to do lunch and drinks and we talk often on the phone. Been with the same friend group for over 20 years and I have been married for 10, it works when you know your place. But yeah- this friendship is over.. Just let it go.
Exactly, liked you when you were single and on the hunt for fun. A husband becomes top priority over a friend’s vulnerable needs. Put a co worker friend wanted sign on the counter. 😂
This lady is like old enough to be her mom. I had an older lady cling on to me like this from work. Would constantly tell me how beautiful I was etc. constant calls etc. I didn’t view her as a friend, more like a mom figure. But when I stopped answering her calls when I switched jobs she was hitting me up constantly asking me why I don’t talk to her anymore. I have a great heart and I connected with her off of the strength that I could tell that she really had a liking for me.
Not if that 'friend' is becoming a toxic and negative force in your life, then it's time to cut them loose! It's s clear the woman in Black is toxic. She just wants to argue and fight.
This is a prime example of People who will hang, chill, be friends with you only because they need/want someone to hang out with. They don't have many or any friends and you are just a boredom buster for them. A true friend will always want you in their life.
She called her on the show after 10 years to say “talk to the hand and girl bye?”. Some people (women especially) like to have a ‘poor friend’. They help them to keep them around. They feel uncomfortable when the friend starts to do better because they may lose them. Instead they should be happy for them and wish them well.
As someone who has a few friends that are married. I can truly say it is normal once one of your friends get a man and get married that you are not going to spend as much time with that friend as you are used to. You are single and she is married or in a relationship. As a friend, you have to learn how to separate being single and being in a relationship. The friend that is in the relationship is naturally going to spend more time her with her man. Girl it has been 10 years. Yall haven't talked and seen each other all this time. Girl move on, stop being jealous and move on‼️‼️
Not spending as much time together isn’t the same as no longer spending ANY time together. When that happens it simply means the person that got married feels they’re too good to hang out with someone who’s not married. Best believe the married one didn’t go 10 years with no friends whatsoever. She just dropped the friend she had, but was too cowardly to say it or explain why.
This is weird. As a loner, I could never imagine myself going back and forth with someone because they're not giving me attention. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even notice your absence. No shade, just being real. And I wouldn't be offended once I do notice your absence 100 years later, if at all. I would just think you're living your life, as am I.
Alot of women drop friends when they get in a relationship. Let them go. And when that relationship breaks down and they try to pick up that friendship again ignore them.
Never help a friend who didn’t asked for nothing … cause that’s exactly what they would tell you once they’re back on their thing 🤷🏿♀️ « I didn’t ASK YOU FOR NOTHING »
I had a friend like this. Secretly believe it or not she can't stand the loyalty given that she can't offer. She didn't lose a friend she lost a spiritual enemy.
The friend that was left behind isn’t saying everything. If he’s in the NFL she has to keep certain people out of her business because it will end up in the blogs. If she’s bringing this to a show after 10 years gives me the vibe of being messy. She could have called, texted or messaged to let her know she missed her.
They both just need to communicate better. One is a wife and a mother, the family she created comes first point blank. You can't be mad she doesn't do single friend things anymore. And on the other side while they may not be out clubbing anymore, they can do lunch. I just feel like after 10 years of this arguing & cutting eachother out, this "friendship" just needs to be let go.
A simple way of measuring some1’s character can be to watch how they react when you say “no”. Do they respect your no? Do they try to manipulate you, dismiss you, or just be plain old mean to you when you say no? OR Do they try and meet in the middle, take your feelings into consideration, respect your no, or take it for what it is?
I see it from both perspectives. When you’re in a relationship your time does change however, it’s ok and important to still maintain your friendships outside of your relationship as well. Spending too much of majority of your time with your Partner only is actually toxic asf.
NOT TRUE. Before my mom passed my parents were married for 45 years and did everything together and were happily married. She may have went to lunch once in a lie moon with friends but for the most part she didn't want to. Neither did my dad. They all hung with FAMILY mainly. We are all like that to this day. I'm like that with my man too. We hang with COUPLES. Things change as you get older and grow as a person. People also outgrow some friends.
When you’re married you should definitely spend the majority of your time with your spouse and kids. That is literally what you’re supposed to do when you have created your own family.
Orrrr some people are just introverts and don't have many friends. Y'all forget that people are built differently then you. If you live together or are married you definitely gonna be spending the majority of your time with your SO. It's normal and natural. It's only toxic if the two individuals are toxic. Me and mine have a ball together everyday.
Elevated bc she married a MAN WITH MONEY. He leave her she’ll be running back to her old friends. She had her face up her ass. I honestly felt like she the type to use her way to the top and dispose ppls when she’s done. She looks conniving and she look like that one chick that think everybody wants her life. Having your nose up on the air jus ain the way to walk around
@@sympatico79 yes if they don’t understand that you can’t do the things you used to at different stages in life. If I had a friend begging me to go to the club I would pull back too. Why can’t we go to brunch or shopping? Things change when you get into a relationship if you respect your partner . You can’t operate as a single person. Her friend didn’t understand that.
I see a lot of comments like “she want to be at home with her husband” but if her husband is a pro in the league he is away a lot. So it’s not adding up. Then she’s hanging with her elite friends….sounds like a bad friend to me. She moved up and left her ass in the dust.
@@nicholebrown8617 💯💯 You can tell by her demeanor she definitely thinks she better in every way than her. Which is why they don’t need to rekindle! That’s no friend of hers if they in competition in her head!
Nobody wants to talk to someone who's complaining every time you speak to them. If I say I can't (or don't want to) go out and you start badgering me about why I don't want to go, what you did for me, and what I owe you I'm just going to stop speaking to you also.
I believe that she knows her friend is jealous/envious but doesn't want to vocalize it bc she doesn't want to come off as a vain snob. Also she doesn't want to really hurt her friends feelings bc she leveled up with her marriage. The lady has class and her friend doesn't. Maybe if ol girl would act like she has some sense maybe she would be welcomed into her new world.
Y'all on this thread sure DON'T know how to recognize "class" or, obviously, the lack thereof. Lol! Just because she married a man with money and has nice things does NOT change her or her insecurities of losing all that. I can tell by how she talks and acts. Class???? Yeah right.... Ok. Lol
@@atlantasfaithsmom Let's just say class was the wrong word...ol girl still doesn't act like she has some sense. The reality is the new wife is part of a whole new world. She has to now act like she has some sense and so does the company she keep. LoL and to be honest its not even about that... I can hang with who I want to when I want to. Period. Don't get me wrong, sisterhood and friendship are important but so does getting and keeping ur self together for ur marriage and ur own mental. And guess 😄😂 what, I'm sure that wife is tired of being around ppl she doesn't know yet instead of creating a welcoming environment the friends takes her friend/new wife on show to gripe about her getting married. It's too much...if so we don't need to be friends.
@@RyeMOE She wasn't so much griping about her getting married. Clearly, it was moreso about ignoring her AFTER she got married. Only selfish, coldhearted, unsympathetic people wouldn't be able to understand that.... until and unless it happens to them, maybe. I'm a giving, selfless, sensitive friend, and I would be upset and offended too.
Yes so I agree when you get married things changed. No more partying stuff like etc. but just totally cutting off a person and not communicating and not making things clear is horrible they need to have a conversation and tell each other how they feel without arguing and yelling and actually hear each other out. There need to be some type of understanding
When she tried to communicate she gaslit her and accused her being controlled by her husband. He called out the behavior as well. So eventually she just ghosted her bc she couldn't receive what she was saying bc she didnt respect boundaries
@@Bopandani again I totally think something was not clear there way more to the story that’s not being told that’s why o sis there some cover ups in there some where but yea I totally understand
True friendship is understanding and it is possible to go a long time without talking to that friend and still be friends when you see each other again like you haven't miss a step but you have to allow people to grow and respect their growth
If I were the married friend id leave that relationship right on that stage. That hug was not something the married woman wanted to do, she just did it because it was the polite thing to do. That other friend will just keep bringing up the last 10 years on her if she continues to talk to her. I see right through people like her. Ive gotten people like that out of my life too.
The friend in brown got everything she wanted from the friend in black, she leveled up and kicked the friend to the club. It happens everyday, she couldn't even go to lunch! Please! But I support people doing what ever they have to do to be well ( careful with that type of behavior though), the lady was still processing being left to be a baby mama when her husband came along, accepted her daughter and married her. Regarding going out, she still goes out with her "elite" friends. Just let the friendship go.
I think the black dress girl is just hurt and feels used. She even said it became hard for her to trust people because this girl turned her back on her. The brown dress got what she needed from the friendship, met a rich guy and decided to simply move on with her life. It may have been poor taste for brown dress to do that but she’s not obligated to be her friend anymore. No one owns anyone, if someone decided to move on from you then you have to accept it whether you agree with it or not.
According to the interview they were still friends after the brown dress woman got married. Their relationship changed once the black dress woman still wanted her to hang out like she was single and kept throwing it in her face that she changed since she got a man. Even her delivery on Thai show 10 years later is annoying. I wouldn’t want that energy around me. The black dress woman was simply no longer a asset, she became an emotional liability
Yep! The woman in brown found a baller to upgrade her and the woman in black just doesn't cut it anymore. She doesn't fit in with her baller friends and their wives. That's just how human nature is unfortunately
I just lost a friend right before I got married. She started showing jealousy right before I got married. I grieve the friendship, but she wanted me to be more of a therapist than a friend and it was weighing down on me and my husband didn’t like that.
She needs to be in therapy for her abandonment issues! You can tell that her behavior is why she’s single. You’re still mad after 10 YEARS?! Seek help and grow up! Don’t let her back in your life!
@@FaithandNova Selective hearing! There have been quite a few comments where they act like that’s the sole thing she said. The children George Bush left behind. 😩🫠
I respect the marriage part. But the lady in brown is tooo full of herself and don’t even think she cared about her friend. She keeps using that the friend kept asking them to go to clubs as if it was wrong of her. All she had to do is sit her friend down,tell her your new lifestyle n what you won’t be doing and both figure out another way to keep their friendship going through lunches etc.Not just shut her out like that n act like she was wrong by asking to go out with her.There’s no jealousy whatsoever ever there…. The lady is just hurt n in disbelief that she could basically change just like that.I personally don’t like that women in brown. I don’t know why that women is chasing her after so many years cause she has such a good loving heart.
@@na3staxkz Exactly! The lady may be a good person but she’s a bit too old to not understand how marriages work. If I tell my girlfriends I don’t want to club as much but a nice lunch every once in a while or phone conversations are still good but it’s not received, I would feel like my friend don’t respect me or my marriage. The lady in brown said she didn’t like comments like “ask your man can you go out” bothered her. To me that was a manipulation moment that didn’t work. Lol Even Karamo told her that was wrong. It makes sense that the lady in brown shut down and stopped all communication if she said how she felt and the other lady kept doing it.
The woman felt abandoned and sometimes that’s life. People move on for all sorts of reasons you have to just accept it. If the woman is married now and the single friend is still trying to get her out to clubs that’s not a good friend. So essentially I don’t blame her for just distancing herself and moving on.
After 10 years of now speaking, that's not a friendship. If they were true friends, friends could talk and work out anything. I have had the same and only true friend for over 25 years. We have gone without talking, but we always let each other say how we feel. The ugliest thing was when I was a single mom on section 8. She asked me if her, her daughter, and her man could stay with me because they had gotten put out and he was on the run. I told her that her and the baby could come but he couldn't. She stopped talking to me for a couple of months, but after she realized that she was wrong, she reached out, and we talked like no time passed, like we never skipped a beat. Even to this day, she uses that situation to explain to her kids what a true friend is. She said at that time she didn't want to understand that I would do anything for her because I was willing to jepozied my section 8 for her but not anyone's else but she was in love at the moment and couldn't see the truth.
I know how it is letting friendships go. Some people mean everything to some people. And to see people up and change like that and not fight for you and the friendship is though… I hope they’re making up for all the lost time now.
Just because you get in a new relationship & get married, that doesn't mean it's ok to change on your friends or stop hanging out with your friends . You can make time for everyone in your life . You can have boundaries in your relationship, but the boundaries shouldn't be because of insecurities, jealousy & control . Enjoy your life with everyone in your life . Live & let live .
after 10 years if a person don’t want to be my friend I would be over it.
Amen 🙏 it wouldn't trouble me one bit,a would have move on longtime ago
Right!!! What the bloody hell? Too grown for this.
Bro frlll it’s been 4 yrs with my ex best friend and I don’t at yr 2 😂
same
By end of year one I'd be done....for good
10 years since they've seen each other??? I don't even need to hear anymore. Let that friendship GO
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RIGHT! homegirl just want to be on TV
Facts lol anything after a year I’m good off you
I thought they stopped talking 2 weeks ago from the headline lol. This is manufactured drama.
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I had a friend of 20 years that started acting funny on me... Needless to say, I wish her well. That ship has sailed
For me it was 30 years. And I should have let it go a lot earlier. It may be painful in the beginning, but you can live without people.
I had a best friend for 27 years. It took me 5 years to fully get over it. Only time we talk now is through text during the holidays
Same! Bon voyage
Right
I know friendship these days.😂
After 10 years. It’s time to lay that friendship to rest.
A year for me😂 hell maybe 6 months
@@nikkiquinn1886 for real they was temporary friends lol
There is no friendship
Right my so call friend was jealous of me saying that she don’t want to be my friend no more cuz I more far away the real reason was that it was over a boy because he liked me in she got mad
Right . She putting too much on this 🙄🤣
Whether it’s a friendship or intimate relationship, when someone leaves you…
LET THEM WALK.
That part!
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Agree..
This!!
Mic dropped .
Never beg for someone to be your friend. Just keep it moving.
Real Talk 💯
facts!
She’s jealous. Sis keep the door closed…….
Facts
It’s the audience playing both sides clapping at everything for me 😭
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Lol because they both make valid points 😂
Lol THIS. Tbh it's kind of why I like Karamo. Talkshows so often pit people against each other, reducing things to good v bad. In truth relationships are complicated, and sometimes it's just a case of not acknowledging and hearing. Which we're all guilty of.
They wasn't even 'real' friends. A work friend usually ends when someone leave that job
Exactly!!!!
Not when their children mingle.
Yep
Bingo!
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I mean, once your friend gets married, you can’t constantly ask her to go clubbing or hanging out all the time. You have to respect their marriage. I get it. All my friends are married and I’m still single so I always just wait for them to have the time to hang out and our friendship is still going strong!
no fr someone getting married is def never an excuse to end a friendship. the wife was just making a bunch of excuses , she clearly started feelin herself when she landed the pro baller and left her friend in the dust
That part !!
Understood… but everyone is not the same…. Even if you are married.. I’m pretty sure that you can still make the time to check on and hangout with your friend… being married is not a good - great reason why you can’t hang out with a friend that genuinely loves and cares about you like a brother or sister. Also I don’t mean this in a negative attitude.
I totally agree. I honestly don't see nothing wrong with what she did
This the comment right here! All of it. Lol I ain’t gonna lie, I miss my friends who are married and engaged now, but they should be allowed to live their lives.
She JUST DOESN’T WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND ANYMORE!!!! Move on!!!! Don’t force people to be around you!!!
This woman is jealous her friend got married and moved on. She's not happy for her ex-friend's happiness.
@@magicworld3242 Yep.
I totally agree 💯
@@magicworld3242 facts!!! Super jealous!
That’s what I pick up. I don’t think it has anything to do with her being married. She just doesn’t want to be her friend. Simple.
The friend needs to know that when one gets married their priorities change! Partying and clubbing is no longer a thing for her.
U still ain got to ghost a friend try to have a convo with them RESPECTFULLY . U can tell the other friend think she’s better than the other one bc she married a ball player
I mean a birthday party for the kids is different. And she found time to do those things fit her other friebds
Facts!!
@@quetta561 bingo!!!!
Facts! Married people have different priorities. I wouldn’t want someone banging on about how I don’t want to go to the club. I would ignore her too. Can’t we go to lunch or just hang? A friend should support her marriage!
There’s a difference between setting boundaries and distancing yourself. When boundaries are set it’s communicated. She set boundaries within herself and moved how she wanted to without explanation. That was very clear in this 🤦🏾♀️
Mmm this was the best comment so deep
Ngl. I prejudged the friend who “leveled up” but after hearing her talk, I side with her. The old friend didn’t respect boundaries and was messy with her words. Folks who are in a growing season don’t always want to drink and party. This is why it’s important to hear both sides of a fractured relationship.
I did too.
Exactly her friend is mad annoying nobody wants to hear all that smart talk and condescending about my choices and my life. Go ask your man all that is too much I would have stop hanging with her too. She too old not to understand things change it’s not always about you.
Same
Disagree. That lady in brown has a horrible attitude.
@@LoveAngel333 exactly … it isn’t always about you, friendships do go through gaps or fade away because people are going through life experiences and circumstances. I’m in a space where I’m very introverted because of recent experiences. Just need the alone time but I still stay in touch and acknowledge my friends, just not as physically present.
It's been a decade. Grieve it, bury it and move on.
She got a real man to take care of and she don’t want to lose him periodt ❤
And when she was going through it at her lowest her friend was there to pick her up FOR THAT new man. And now her friend is tossed to the side bc she don’t wanna “lose” him if she can’t hang out and actually be a friend to her that ain’t no “good” man.
They can hug all they want but lady in the brown is over that friendship 🎯
Hunni moved on if she ghosted you 10 years obviously clearly it's a reason why the young lady in brown cut ties I'm on the lady in brown side
I don't blame her
I'm over it too, because sis in the black has some issues.
The lady in black won't let her talk and voice your opinions
@@qvirusmonkey Exactly 😅 She's too catty and dismissive
when you find someone serious your life does change i’m glad she took her relationship seriously
And it is always women dumping their friend - you never see a man do it. Women are glutton for punishment.
👏 she sounds jealous and seems to like people beneath her . Girl bye 😒
U can still talk to your friends 😂
@@Thatgirlny06that mf part!!!
Right!
You can’t make someone be your friend. Respect the friendship for what it was when it was. Be your own friend, respect yourself and the wishes of your former friend. The conversation on display shows why homegirl in the brown kept her distance. Good job on the host for helping the woman in the black to see one of the issues.
The friendship is OVA.
They were never friends, they were acquaintances or associates.
@@chiantibliss5846 right they were never friends!
Ova 😂Ova Ova 😝😭
Never started
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It’s the body language for me..
Their friendship has clearly changed.
From the way the married friend reacted from the beginning. It was very cold.
It's been 10 years. I don't understand why she even brought her on the show at this point.
Exactly. She knows her friend is right about how she did her and instead of just admitting it, she tryna put it all on the other lady.
@@JK-wp4nl because she wanted to resolve and unsolved issue for herself….
@@jasmineiam smh that's ridiculous. There's better ways to resolve issues than this like therapy
Though the dynamics of the friendship rightfully changed after marriage, it is pretty obvious the tan dress has an uppitiness about her. She likely has a "new circle" of friends which puts her in a new social league. Ms. Black Dress should develop maturity and pride and move on with her life. She doesn't need to beg friendship from tan dress.
You cannot force friendships, when it's over take up your heart, wish them well and move on!
She's crazy AF. NO ONE IS REQUIRED TO STAY FRIENDS WITH YOU!
This is the classic example of a single person not understanding marriage. Married people who want to stay married can’t act “single”.
Absolutely true!
Bianca is a snob and snubbed her friend
As a single woman I agree!!
PREACH, she's a hanger on, petty and jealous hater!
I don't think she's a hater. She felt rejected because they were very close. I have two cousins who are sisters and act like that.
💔 People do switch up when they get into relationships or get married. Some people use friends as placeholders until they level up. I feel sorry for the friend but it's a lesson many of us have to learn. Don't beg nobody to be in your life.
Exactly 💯
I’m sorry…Carmetha is full of it. When Bianca brings up she would say “can you ask your husband for permission?” She said “yeah, you know why I said that…” @7:35. Then when Bianca mentioned it again, Carmetha said “I ain’t never said that, girl bye” @9:45. She trying to call someone out for not changing when she CLEARLY ain’t changed. Bianca need to keep pushing with her life & let that friendship stay back in 2013
A real friend don’t bring up what they did for u all the time.. if a real friend do something for you they’ll do it from the heart just off the love they don’t throw it in your face when things don’t go they way
She’s just speaking from a place of hurt because her friend just abandoned her once she met a baller and elevated.
@@julianmartin5551 everything is for a season.
@@soniaharrison1016it is but it’s hurtful when the children also bond with each other. When you really love each other as friends and it’s sincere it will last thru your lifetime
While that is true, people shouldn't go around using people neither but nobody wants to talk about though.
10 years??!! I would have NEVER cared that much 😂
She got married. She changed for her husband as she should and she can still be your friend. That's all.
That doesn't mean she ghost her friend you know u got hoes that do that fake ass shit don't play that lady you done met some fake ass people
the lady that got married look more like her daughter their age seem so far apart.
@@Change2be1 yea I do see that
Why did she change for him why
@@reginaharrigan7454to impress her man 😅
She went from trying to explain why she said “ ask your husband’s permission” to saying she never said it. Honey it’s giving obsessed just a bit. Carmita is clearly older than her and should understand exploring new relationships and communication. But then again not everybody knows/ understands these things so it is what it is. But ten years later is wild
Exactly
Exactly, when I saw the photo of them both I was thinking the woman in the black looks older! I thought it was obsession tooo
When you’re married, there are boundaries, real friends adjust..
Exactly. I can't even picture being upset by a friend who's married and doesn't want to do single activities. It's just an unreasonable expectation fr
@@lacyladi9951married people should just try and have more married friends
@sabrinasmith1182 I'm not married but I have a steady person. My bestie who's male has been married 18yrs and his wife is absolutely lovely. She has never gotten in the way, been offended, that's her man. I respect her and love her equally we go on dates, we can be alone with trust. That's just normal to us but I really can't imagine overstepping. Even saying gotten in the way is like 🤢 I moved so he could grow and came back when they were solid and we have built a great foundation for lifelong friends. People crazy out here.
Or maybe it's me.
@@BRI2020-d8xMarried people who only surround themselves with other married people be the main ones crying when their married friends dump them once they get divorced. Basing your friendships off marital status is a foolish move.
@@journiee2me518 hmm 🤔
Never go where you are not wanted. The lady in the black outfit needs to get some self esteem and move on. There will be someone out there who appreciates her friendship. It's important she works on being happy friends or no friends. Life is for living 💖
I feel like I'm in wonderland with Alice. If some of you think the chick in black is an example of a good friend, good luck with having any serious romantic relationships. I didn't hear they were BEST friends. They were WORK friends. One got married and had a kid. She CLEARLY said she didn't stop speaking to her bc she got married. She stopped speaking to her bc after she told her she didn't want to club and party every conversation became snide comments about her relationship and her not "having permission" to do things. She got tired of having the same conversation and the chick not respecting her boundaries. The chick in black went from saying she knew why she said that to denying she said it. A blind man can see she's toxic and wants attention. Ten years later and you're still looking for attention?! I wouldn't have even come on the show to defend myself against this crap.
No. She already had a kid. The woman in black took the other chick under her wing. She said they were just work friends at first but then ended up becoming best friends. Their daughters were even close. The girl met a successful man and she started acting funny. Not even inviting the other woman's daughter to her little girls birthday party. To me that was the pettiest of all! To me, the chick in the tan dress had an attitude as soon as she walked out.
This is spot on. Those who are not married trying to dictate what this married woman is doing with her husband. She got chose and moved on.
The chick is black has serious problems. I would run
Exactly!!
@@taryndoiron3971 she said she uninvited her from the birthday party because she wouldn’t respect her boundaries! She got tired of her snide remarks. The lady in the tan dress was over her as soon as the lady in the black said “talk to the hand”… I wouldn’t be able to take a grown woman seriously if she did such childish behavior either. The lady in black must be single and still living in the mentality of “let’s get this party started” at 40 years old!! 😂 Some people mature and want more out of life than “let’s get this party started” especially after marriage and kids. They are no longer on the same level of maturity. I would leave her behind as well. We are not headed in the same direction of success. 🤷🏽♀️
I befriended an older woman who used to shade me like that about my husband. She would make silly comments like "you can't do nothing" your husband this...and your husband that from a Judemental point of view. All the while she's as single as a blade of grass. I would pick up vibes of jealousy and her wanting my undivided attention.. it started to get really weird. She started to not have boundaries like this older woman. Needless to say I cut the cord on that relationship.
A lot of those older women are secretly lesbians and want more than friendship.
Single as a blade of grass 😂😂
@@Salma-yo6nsI caught that
She OUTGREW her. Elevation requires separation. She now has the mindset of a wife and mother. Being the wife of a successful man (successful or not) you have to let go of anyone who bring unnecessary drama and negativity. After 10 years she still haven’t matured, lack effective communication skills and the ability to control her emotions. She need extensive therapy before she can be anyone’s friend. She needs to learn to love herself first. She’s jealous that her ex-friend is happy and found a husband. If she put that same energy into herself then just maybe she can find happiness too. Gurl leave her where she’s at and continue to enjoy your peace!
Best comment! I agree 100%
Right I think she’s jealous and is using not wanting to hang out with her as a excuse☹️
Exactly! The lady in the tan dress as matured past her. She was done with her when she threw up her hand and said “talk to the hand”. I wouldn’t be able to take an adult seriously with that behavior either. One has chosen to mature and have a family. The other is still in the “let’s get this party started” mindset. They have outgrown each other. I wouldn’t let anyone try to destroy my marriage and success either. We are not the same. Lady in the black needs to find her own people. Lady in the tan is not at that immature mindset anymore…..
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Exactly this woman clearly toxic and unhappy
Some people need to love themselves instead of depending on others.
Karamo be making ish up to make guests feel better. The married friend wasnt really missing her. She found peace.
I feel like after this reconciliation still this friendship is going nowhere
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Agreed.
Forreal
My childhood bestie up till high school was my ACE! We dressed a like, dated other best friends, everything. She got married at 19 and I couldn't pay her to come by or have our kids to play when we was in our 20's... I let it go... fast forward, I was like 35 and her sister begged me and a couple of her other good friends to come to her bday party because she was divorced... now she's married again, haven't seen her since... still love her but I would never rush to be by her side since I know she don't fool with ppl when she got a man...
Thats a diff type of friend than the one we saw up here
Love how Karamo compliments how beautiful his guests look when they come out on stage.
Married women can’t do what single women do and I don’t think she understands that
Understandable.
And she’s too old not to know that ! I just think she’s a clingy friend
That’s true but going out with a friend isn’t the end of the world. Especially if you dating a pro they always out in the club.
@@MzCandyApple5683 True some people just don’t think they should do certain things anymore . And I’m sure she didn’t want to be bumping into her husband looking thirsty in clubs
And she was trying to be a friend her so whatever yall say
One of my friends told me that I am like the only friend she has left because when she started having children, I was the only one who understood (although I have none of my own) that she doesn’t have the same amount of time she used to have to hang out and be on the phone, and therefore allowed her to reach out when she was ready. The others became upset with her. 🤦🏾♀️
I always think those people who can’t remain your friend are crazy.😂
I experienced the same thing as your friend out of 20 friends you have 1 or 2 real friends
She really doesnt have to give an explanation of her boundaries. She said NO and that is a complete sentence. The friend didn't respect her, her marriage, and felt like she owed her something. Plus, the communication is poor and its more hurt speaking than love. Sometimes marriages do end friendships. Facts of life.
you give an explanation to your FRIEND. but i do agree she did not respect her boundaries
@@brecamilla5451 your FRIEND will also respect NO full stop. Anything else is entitlement because she doesn't owe any furthrr explanation. NO explains itself. It's Because I said NO. You saying NO is the only explanation a FRIEND SISTER OR ANYBODY NEEDS. You are enough and so is your NO.
@@iamtracywilson you do owe further explanation, it’s curtesy bc that’s your friend. you don’t have to but it is nice…. y’all mad weird like this is literally basic shi. if u see ya friend confused on why you can’t, a simple explanation would do some good within the friendship
@@iamtracywilson but i can see how u are when u said “owe” her something. you definitely owe your loved ones common courtesy and understanding. but again she should’ve understood her boundaries as well.
@@brecamilla5451 the word is OWE... courtesy if you want to but you dont have to! This is basic, so either you get it or you dont. This is why some people stay confused looking for an explanation.. 🤣 you may never get one besides their no.. doesnt mean they dont love you if they dont tell you more than that. That is something your mind put as an expectation for them to do.. everyone does not live in expectations so this helps people stay in control and out of confusion. NO is the explanation. Anything else is human emotion and rational to justify the NO which can stand on its own. COURTESY is just that.. people can say no and give no further reason and still love you. Hope that makes sense.
I been in this situation but at some point you got to let it go . Not everyone is meant to your friend for a lifetime
Chile! I’ve been on both sides. Life goes on.
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I wish everyone well.
She ain’t hurt, she’s jealous, and like the old folks used to say misery loves company
she isn't, it just hurts when someone changes like that and skips you
No she's not !... she just missed their friendship....& she not miserable...the gurl in the brown is a royal bitch... period!
I sensed jealousy as well. She seems to want her to stay in the same exact spot in life
@@Unknown-vy3do Everyone changes, it called maturity. Why would a married woman be out clubbing and hanging with her single friends? Also, she said she disinvited her from her childs party because the friend wanted to come over and try to check her husband. The friend is jealous and miserable.
@@ExceptionalLex Facts, we all have to grow, and keep moving forward.
I was once the “betrayed” friend and took me a looooong time to accept that the friendship was over. I thought she’d come around and all I needed to do was to give her space as her life had taken a different direction. Lo and behold, I found myself waiting forever! I never got an explanation as to what happened & I pretty much never saw her again (she wouldn’t repond to my messages). I became resentful and bitter because of how much of a loyal and good friend I had been to her for her to cast me out like it was nothing. My acceptance and healing began when I forgave her and myself; I let go of the friendship and the idea that we would someday reconcile and I prayed about it. My next major friendship breakup didn’t take me as long to process and let go of because I had already learnt my lessons from the previous one. I’m still learning and won’t stop being a good friend; but now it comes with boundaries and balance so that I never have to feel like the next person owed me anything for my loyalty. It’s hard and it’s painful. But we live and we pray and we grow from these experiences. I donor regret any of them and the seasons they we shared.
Hmmmm, I don't know about that friendship. They haven't seen each other in 10 years - maybe just let it go.
She Does Not Have To Be Her Friend! I Think That Old Lady Is Trouble, And Would Cause Her Trouble With Her Husband!😒😒😒
I had a friend like this who blamed me for everything that happened in our friendship since childhood, yet she never took any responsibility for anything that she did.
I felt a borderline obsession. I get the demeanor the girl in the brown dress had but let not act like we didn't just witness that lady have a bipolar episode she laughed cried got mad came back and did it all over again. She might be a good friend but they live in two different worlds and if she can't get it together I wouldn't blame the girl in the brown for just leaving that situation. She lives differently now
Agreed. She really came in here and claimed to miss someone and then aggressively flipped out on her when she came out. I’d ditch her, too! She’s jealous and it’s crazy!
I am definitely feeling the obsession vibes
Psycho!
@@selfesteemqueen I also think it’s jealousy
Yep. Homegirl REALLY showed her ass and THAT may be why the other girl wanted nothing more to do with her.
10yrs...let it go, move on, wish each other well & keep it movin, separately. 💯 🌻🙏🏽
I think they are just on two different levels in their lives. They have out grown each other.
Carmetha (sp?) has some issues and could benefit from therapy… I imagine she has issues with most (if not all) of her relationships. She seems emotionally immature and has trouble communicating… a recipe for disaster. I would’ve left her in the wind too if I was trying to elevate my life and she wasn’t growing as a person. I don’t see this friendship going anywhere, but I wish them both well ❤
Literally tooooo old seek help.
It is time to move on and it's okay, everything is just for a season. You are both leading different lives with different priorities so wish each other well and move on to living YOUR best life because time marches on
Carmetha is rude talking bout talk to the hand, the nerve of her and if a friend of mine kept saying asking me to ask my husband if i can go out I would be done with her since she can't respect the marriage, she was trying to have control!!! She needs a husband bad to focus her energy on, she has no one to focus on and the one person that she did focus on became taken and married!!!
Carmetha has serious attitude issues, she comes across as controlling!! I would have to exit that friendship, no one has time to jump to her every demand especially since when getting married your priorities change and with the way she comes across to her friend with her negative demeanor I would be done too!!! Marriage itself is work and no one has time for that childish behavior!!! She's jealous of her friend,
This is typical of many women. People will use you as a friend until a better opportunity as a man comes. The lady in the brown dress was getting annoyed, didn’t need her advice anymore, & ghosted her. This lady needs to let it go. Friendship takes work and time and are important. The lady who wants the friendship is passive aggressive.
This comment!!! Truth
Not necessarily true. Not all friendships are meant to last forever.. she moved on..karWHATSHERNAME Should have done the same
@@user-ho3iz3ig3vexactly
Not true . What if she just didn’t want to club anymore? Priorities change.
The lady in black needs to work on her discernment and recognize a fake friend and user when she sees one.
She outgrew the relationship simple! When you level up in life unfortunately everyone can’t come with you.
The audience wishy washy asl 😂😂😂 be clapping at anything
That's cuz the producers make em do it
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Definitely do😂
Lol they looking at the sign that say “ CLAP” lol
@@geanetta1986 hell naw 😂😂😂😂
This is what I call a struggle friendship. As long as you are doing bad and going through something these friends are always around. They are good to you, want to hang out and its all about the girls. However, the young lady should have set clear boundaries when she found a real relationship . Speaking from a married person, my single friends know when and what to invite me to. We schedule 1 day a month to do lunch and drinks and we talk often on the phone. Been with the same friend group for over 20 years and I have been married for 10, it works when you know your place. But yeah- this friendship is over.. Just let it go.
Exactly, liked you when you were single and on the hunt for fun.
A husband becomes top priority over a friend’s vulnerable needs.
Put a co worker friend wanted sign on the counter. 😂
This lady is like old enough to be her mom. I had an older lady cling on to me like this from work. Would constantly tell me how beautiful I was etc. constant calls etc. I didn’t view her as a friend, more like a mom figure. But when I stopped answering her calls when I switched jobs she was hitting me up constantly asking me why I don’t talk to her anymore. I have a great heart and I connected with her off of the strength that I could tell that she really had a liking for me.
She can not do single things, but she can remain your friend
So a lunch date with a friend would ruin her marriage 😏
Sounds like her friend wasn't respecting her boundaries so the friendship had to end. It happens. All relationships aren't meant to last forever
@@karenperry9628exactly she upgraded her life and didn’t need her anymore
That is so true. I just don't understand why people can't always understand that.
Not if that 'friend' is becoming a toxic and negative force in your life, then it's time to cut them loose! It's s clear the woman in Black is toxic. She just wants to argue and fight.
This is a prime example of People who will hang, chill, be friends with you only because they need/want someone to hang out with. They don't have many or any friends and you are just a boredom buster for them. A true friend will always want you in their life.
People change, it’s nothing person. The longer it takes you to realize, the longer you will suffer.
She called her on the show after 10 years to say “talk to the hand and girl bye?”. Some people (women especially) like to have a ‘poor friend’. They help them to keep them around. They feel uncomfortable when the friend starts to do better because they may lose them. Instead they should be happy for them and wish them well.
Talk to the hand was so childish . She still gives immature
As someone who has a few friends that are married. I can truly say it is normal once one of your friends get a man and get married that you are not going to spend as much time with that friend as you are used to. You are single and she is married or in a relationship. As a friend, you have to learn how to separate being single and being in a relationship. The friend that is in the relationship is naturally going to spend more time her with her man. Girl it has been 10 years. Yall haven't talked and seen each other all this time. Girl move on, stop being jealous and move on‼️‼️
Not spending as much time together isn’t the same as no longer spending ANY time together. When that happens it simply means the person that got married feels they’re too good to hang out with someone who’s not married. Best believe the married one didn’t go 10 years with no friends whatsoever. She just dropped the friend she had, but was too cowardly to say it or explain why.
@@journiee2me518yeah cause she asking to go out, do things that could possibly destroy her union, you don’t need them kinda friends honey✌🏽
This is weird. As a loner, I could never imagine myself going back and forth with someone because they're not giving me attention. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even notice your absence. No shade, just being real. And I wouldn't be offended once I do notice your absence 100 years later, if at all. I would just think you're living your life, as am I.
yep
Lmfaooo whole time like tf
Forreal though 😂😅😅
Alot of women drop friends when they get in a relationship. Let them go. And when that relationship breaks down and they try to pick up that friendship again ignore them.
Never help a friend who didn’t asked for nothing … cause that’s exactly what they would tell you once they’re back on their thing 🤷🏿♀️ « I didn’t ASK YOU FOR NOTHING »
This is low-key deep af. In your mind- dang i helped you when I didn't even have to. In their mind, You doing stuff I didn't even asked you to do!
True
Isn’t thank you enough?
Those boots are fire 🔥! Give me them 😂 . And the lady in the brown seems nonchalant!
I had a friend like this. Secretly believe it or not she can't stand the loyalty given that she can't offer. She didn't lose a friend she lost a spiritual enemy.
They way she walked through the chairs instead of walking around 😂
The friend that was left behind isn’t saying everything. If he’s in the NFL she has to keep certain people out of her business because it will end up in the blogs. If she’s bringing this to a show after 10 years gives me the vibe of being messy. She could have called, texted or messaged to let her know she missed her.
Exactly.
This was a good episode. Through there healing it allowed me to identify my feelings with an estrange friendship I’ve had recently.
They both just need to communicate better. One is a wife and a mother, the family she created comes first point blank. You can't be mad she doesn't do single friend things anymore. And on the other side while they may not be out clubbing anymore, they can do lunch. I just feel like after 10 years of this arguing & cutting eachother out, this "friendship" just needs to be let go.
Ma'am... these women are 40+
@@jayresidue5441 what does that have to do with my comment?
True
@@realmnthrwknives exactly-age doesn’t mean that you have good emotional regulation, healthy boundaries, & good communication skills
I wouldn’t communicate nothing it’s been too many years lol
A simple way of measuring some1’s character can be to watch how they react when you say “no”. Do they respect your no? Do they try to manipulate you, dismiss you, or just be plain old mean to you when you say no? OR
Do they try and meet in the middle, take your feelings into consideration, respect your no, or take it for what it is?
Sometimes it happens people move on . Sometimes friendships don’t last
I see it from both perspectives. When you’re in a relationship your time does change however, it’s ok and important to still maintain your friendships outside of your relationship as well. Spending too much of majority of your time with your Partner only is actually toxic asf.
NOT TRUE. Before my mom passed my parents were married for 45 years and did everything together and were happily married. She may have went to lunch once in a lie moon with friends but for the most part she didn't want to. Neither did my dad. They all hung with FAMILY mainly. We are all like that to this day. I'm like that with my man too. We hang with COUPLES. Things change as you get older and grow as a person. People also outgrow some friends.
It wasn't about the time with partner. It was about the friend's jealously.
When you’re married you should definitely spend the majority of your time with your spouse and kids. That is literally what you’re supposed to do when you have created your own family.
Orrrr some people are just introverts and don't have many friends. Y'all forget that people are built differently then you. If you live together or are married you definitely gonna be spending the majority of your time with your SO. It's normal and natural. It's only toxic if the two individuals are toxic. Me and mine have a ball together everyday.
I don’t think people understand this they will drain themselves for one person and then need their friends when that man not there
Now that they know ‘why’ they should move on as acquaintances. It’s been a decade. That friendship won’t be the same.
"Ur personality hasn't changed"
"What am i gonna do, morph in to another person?" Loved it
If everybody that came with you can't go with you was a person. Bianca just elevated.
That's exactly what I said everybody can't go with you when you go up.
Elevated bc she married a MAN WITH MONEY. He leave her she’ll be running back to her old friends. She had her face up her ass. I honestly felt like she the type to use her way to the top and dispose ppls when she’s done. She looks conniving and she look like that one chick that think everybody wants her life. Having your nose up on the air jus ain the way to walk around
Even the ones that held you down before u got there?
@@sympatico79 yes if they don’t understand that you can’t do the things you used to at different stages in life. If I had a friend begging me to go to the club I would pull back too. Why can’t we go to brunch or shopping? Things change when you get into a relationship if you respect your partner . You can’t operate as a single person. Her friend didn’t understand that.
Nah she just being a snob she got sumbody rich and now she wanna hang with the snobs her whole attitude is annoying frfr
I see a lot of comments like “she want to be at home with her husband” but if her husband is a pro in the league he is away a lot. So it’s not adding up. Then she’s hanging with her elite friends….sounds like a bad friend to me. She moved up and left her ass in the dust.
That’s what I’m thinking shes hanging with her “elite” friends now and thinks she’s too good for her.
@@nicholebrown8617 💯💯 You can tell by her demeanor she definitely thinks she better in every way than her. Which is why they don’t need to rekindle! That’s no friend of hers if they in competition in her head!
Exactly
@@karenperry9628 LOL at your name!!!
Nobody wants to talk to someone who's complaining every time you speak to them. If I say I can't (or don't want to) go out and you start badgering me about why I don't want to go, what you did for me, and what I owe you I'm just going to stop speaking to you also.
You can’t take it personally. Just gotta wish her the best.
I believe that she knows her friend is jealous/envious but doesn't want to vocalize it bc she doesn't want to come off as a vain snob. Also she doesn't want to really hurt her friends feelings bc she leveled up with her marriage. The lady has class and her friend doesn't. Maybe if ol girl would act like she has some sense maybe she would be welcomed into her new world.
I agree! I can see that!
I sense jealousy too 😮
Y'all on this thread sure DON'T know how to recognize "class" or, obviously, the lack thereof. Lol! Just because she married a man with money and has nice things does NOT change her or her insecurities of losing all that. I can tell by how she talks and acts. Class???? Yeah right.... Ok. Lol
@@atlantasfaithsmom Let's just say class was the wrong word...ol girl still doesn't act like she has some sense. The reality is the new wife is part of a whole new world. She has to now act like she has some sense and so does the company she keep. LoL and to be honest its not even about that... I can hang with who I want to when I want to. Period. Don't get me wrong, sisterhood and friendship are important but so does getting and keeping ur self together for ur marriage and ur own mental. And guess 😄😂 what, I'm sure that wife is tired of being around ppl she doesn't know yet instead of creating a welcoming environment the friends takes her friend/new wife on show to gripe about her getting married. It's too much...if so we don't need to be friends.
@@RyeMOE She wasn't so much griping about her getting married. Clearly, it was moreso about ignoring her AFTER she got married. Only selfish, coldhearted, unsympathetic people wouldn't be able to understand that.... until and unless it happens to them, maybe. I'm a giving, selfless, sensitive friend, and I would be upset and offended too.
She found a good man and don’t want to lose it
Exactly
Operating out of fear doesn’t keep him either.
@@Hollygdorsey1 Maybe you’re right that she’s operating out of fear or she could just be focused on her family.
@@okaygworl exactly like she said it’s about respect like it she asked him not to do something he wouldn’t out of respect not fear
EXACTLY it's hard to find a guy who will take you with a small child
First time watching or hearing about this show. We really need more of these topics discussed. This was so good!
Good communication and true understanding is the key to any relationship....
Yes so I agree when you get married things changed. No more partying stuff like etc. but just totally cutting off a person and not communicating and not making things clear is horrible they need to have a conversation and tell each other how they feel without arguing and yelling and actually hear each other out. There need to be some type of understanding
When she tried to communicate she gaslit her and accused her being controlled by her husband. He called out the behavior as well. So eventually she just ghosted her bc she couldn't receive what she was saying bc she didnt respect boundaries
@@Bopandani again I totally think something was not clear there way more to the story that’s not being told that’s why o sis there some cover ups in there some where but yea I totally understand
Always good to hear both sides of a story because after both. I side with the married friend.
She a wife now and she wants to be at home with her loving husband and daughter
She is trying to be a good wife and not lose that NFL money 😂like why would she be out all the time and lose him. Plus she has a new life.
True friendship is understanding and it is possible to go a long time without talking to that friend and still be friends when you see each other again like you haven't miss a step but you have to allow people to grow and respect their growth
If I were the married friend id leave that relationship right on that stage. That hug was not something the married woman wanted to do, she just did it because it was the polite thing to do. That other friend will just keep bringing up the last 10 years on her if she continues to talk to her. I see right through people like her. Ive gotten people like that out of my life too.
The friend in brown got everything she wanted from the friend in black, she leveled up and kicked the friend to the club. It happens everyday, she couldn't even go to lunch! Please! But I support people doing what ever they have to do to be well ( careful with that type of behavior though), the lady was still processing being left to be a baby mama when her husband came along, accepted her daughter and married her. Regarding going out, she still goes out with her "elite" friends. Just let the friendship go.
I think the black dress girl is just hurt and feels used. She even said it became hard for her to trust people because this girl turned her back on her. The brown dress got what she needed from the friendship, met a rich guy and decided to simply move on with her life. It may have been poor taste for brown dress to do that but she’s not obligated to be her friend anymore. No one owns anyone, if someone decided to move on from you then you have to accept it whether you agree with it or not.
Yes agree
According to the interview they were still friends after the brown dress woman got married. Their relationship changed once the black dress woman still wanted her to hang out like she was single and kept throwing it in her face that she changed since she got a man. Even her delivery on Thai show 10 years later is annoying. I wouldn’t want that energy around me. The black dress woman was simply no longer a asset, she became an emotional liability
Yep! The woman in brown found a baller to upgrade her and the woman in black just doesn't cut it anymore. She doesn't fit in with her baller friends and their wives. That's just how human nature is unfortunately
The one in black is annoying I would stop being friends with her too
I just lost a friend right before I got married. She started showing jealousy right before I got married. I grieve the friendship, but she wanted me to be more of a therapist than a friend and it was weighing down on me and my husband didn’t like that.
She needs to be in therapy for her abandonment issues! You can tell that her behavior is why she’s single. You’re still mad after 10 YEARS?! Seek help and grow up! Don’t let her back in your life!
This situation seems so toxic it’s no wonder she cut her off from her life. It’s her life her choice .
10 YEARS! Miss ma’am let her go on with her life…
Girl she is a wife. Her husband and family are priority not luncheons or hanging with single friends up in the club. Carmetha needs a husband.
Carmetha needs therapy first! She needs help navigating her emotions and communicating… until then, she will struggle with all of her relationships.
Why all y’all heard was club? She also said she wouldn’t even go to lunch
@@katiebangs9366 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@@FaithandNova Selective hearing! There have been quite a few comments where they act like that’s the sole thing she said. The children George Bush left behind. 😩🫠
I mean going to lunch and dinner every once in awhile is nothing.
I respect the marriage part. But the lady in brown is tooo full of herself and don’t even think she cared about her friend. She keeps using that the friend kept asking them to go to clubs as if it was wrong of her. All she had to do is sit her friend down,tell her your new lifestyle n what you won’t be doing and both figure out another way to keep their friendship going through lunches etc.Not just shut her out like that n act like she was wrong by asking to go out with her.There’s no jealousy whatsoever ever there…. The lady is just hurt n in disbelief that she could basically change just like that.I personally don’t like that women in brown. I don’t know why that women is chasing her after so many years cause she has such a good loving heart.
i understand what your saying but bianca is not in the wrong . married people can not & should not b doing what single people r doing !!
@@na3staxkz Exactly! The lady may be a good person but she’s a bit too old to not understand how marriages work. If I tell my girlfriends I don’t want to club as much but a nice lunch every once in a while or phone conversations are still good but it’s not received, I would feel like my friend don’t respect me or my marriage. The lady in brown said she didn’t like comments like “ask your man can you go out” bothered her. To me that was a manipulation moment that didn’t work. Lol Even Karamo told her that was wrong. It makes sense that the lady in brown shut down and stopped all communication if she said how she felt and the other lady kept doing it.
The woman felt abandoned and sometimes that’s life. People move on for all sorts of reasons you have to just accept it. If the woman is married now and the single friend is still trying to get her out to clubs that’s not a good friend. So essentially I don’t blame her for just distancing herself and moving on.
I don’t want any friends like this and I do leave people behind who no longer serve me.
How is going to lunch with a friend considered single ppl doings n not married 🙄
If you’re married and your situation changes and you don’t want to hang out in clubs , if she don’t understand that you should part ways
After 10 years of now speaking, that's not a friendship. If they were true friends, friends could talk and work out anything. I have had the same and only true friend for over 25 years. We have gone without talking, but we always let each other say how we feel. The ugliest thing was when I was a single mom on section 8. She asked me if her, her daughter, and her man could stay with me because they had gotten put out and he was on the run. I told her that her and the baby could come but he couldn't. She stopped talking to me for a couple of months, but after she realized that she was wrong, she reached out, and we talked like no time passed, like we never skipped a beat. Even to this day, she uses that situation to explain to her kids what a true friend is. She said at that time she didn't want to understand that I would do anything for her because I was willing to jepozied my section 8 for her but not anyone's else but she was in love at the moment and couldn't see the truth.
She can't deal with how much her NFL married friend has leveled up...she's a wife now, deal with it or BYEEEE!!!
I know how it is letting friendships go. Some people mean everything to some people. And to see people up and change like that and not fight for you and the friendship is though… I hope they’re making up for all the lost time now.
Just because you get in a new relationship & get married, that doesn't mean it's ok to change on your friends or stop hanging out with your friends . You can make time for everyone in your life . You can have boundaries in your relationship, but the boundaries shouldn't be because of insecurities, jealousy & control . Enjoy your life with everyone in your life . Live & let live .
Thank you!
Y’all sound ridiculous. Married people’s lives change. If you can’t understand, then it’s your fault
@@knowbeonekanobe5672 you obviously didn't read everything i said & comprehended it 😃😃😃
Just because you were friends mean you always half to be . She lives a different life now and the lazy seems obsessed or something
Exactly girl