Tough Pokemon Card Pull Rates Have Temporal Forces Prices SOARING!
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
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Temporal Forces Pokemon Cards released 1 short week ago and already, it is causing quite a bit of uncertainty in the Pokemon Card Market. With Pokemon Card Pull Rates being noticeably different in this set, it has become much hard to pull Special Illustration Rares. With the increased difficulty level, many Pokemon Card Fans are shying away from opening Temporal Forces booster boxes, and focusing more on buying singles.
However, the singles market for Temporal Forces Pokemon Cards has experienced a ton of uncertainty. Tougher Pokemon Card Pull Rates have resulted in buyouts and FOMO, potentially causing overspend when it comes to Temporal Forces singles. Is patience the best approach when it comes to buying Pokemon Cards for Temporal Forces? Let's talk about it!
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Before watching the video, this is what's going to happen with this set.
About half of the people are not opening. So there's less cards on the market and more demand for singles. Once singles prices get ridiculous you will see people resort to opening more product gets opened, more singles in the market and prices drop again. Then prices will fade up over time.
And the final step. 20 months later, after everyone has forgotten the set and moved on to other things, the prices hit a bottom and I complete my master set.
Temporal Forces is the most interesting set since 151. Love the art work but not trying to Fomo spend. 😅
Agreed!
@@DannyPhantump Got one ace spec in 54 packs lol. 1 Booster box, and 1 of each ETB.
Agreed I love this set
Yep! the SIR’s are all beautiful!
I fomo spent on four booster boxes cos this is my first set since coming into the hobby and I got lucky. Pulled iron crown and raging volt. But yeah not gonna do that again because I think it was beginner luck
Regarding the pull rates being just as bad in B&W and on:
True, BUT you have to remember that those sets only had around 111 cards on average, lol. Also, unless my memory is messing with me, reverses only came in a select few cards (particularly cards that had a holo variant), not like now where we have entire parallel foil sets where there’s a reverse holo of an uncommon but no holo exists!
Unsurprisingly, the only exception to the bad pull rates is the S&M era. Those were when the 150+ average (with peaks over 200) sets first showed up. Even then though, the prices on those cards (raw) aren’t generally too bad, and there’s plenty for everyone (because again from my previous comment, Pokémon prints so everyone can have 4-6 of a card for play/collection!).
Alright, I’m done now, haha.
Temporal Forces is the most interesting set since 151… The Ace Spec cards are just beautiful
Scarcity doesn’t even exist with vintage my friend. I opened over 40,000 FE Base myself and I know of others (who were smarter than I at the time) that have PALLETS of cases from FE Base Through EX era and on…
This franchise has been the most popular thing in the world for a long time now; and furthermore, it was PALPABLE how much Japanese culture/products were affecting (our generation especially) in the 90s with these gems like DB/DBZ, Gundam, Power Rangers, Hello Kitty, FF, Mario (Nintendo began as a card business mind you!); and that’s just a drop in the bucket of how much Japan was ruling the West in that category.
It sure as heck wasn’t hard to see why the TCG would be an investment for people that were older during that boom (Gary King Pokémon anyone?). Besides that, playing cards have been a collectible for CENTURIES (circa late 17th century). Art obviously even further back than that.
Speaking of ancient things, illustrated art (physical specifically) is one of the most accessible things to enjoy there is to mankind, even in the digital age for crying out loud.
Vintage is not rare. Low pop “perfect” mint vintage? Sure, that IS RARE; but even sealed vintage is not as rare as many of you even can come close to think it is, lol.
I mean that in the sense that there’s not just 1-2 cases of FE base (as an example) left like SO MANY think. 75+ pallets people… that’s just what one person, in one country, in one city, in one town, in one neighborhood put away; and again, remember… Japan (more specifically Pokémon) has dominated this world for a LONG TIME now. It simply was not difficult to see its invest potential.
It’ll trickle out for decades to come (at the current pace).
I hope this helped!
Edit: I also wanted to put this here as well since it’s relevant. I heard first hand from a WOTC higher up decades ago that they generally printed enough for each ACTIVE player (based on their numbers of interest in the hobby from data and surveys at the time) to obtain at least 4-6 (a few extra in case some get damaged or a player possibly needed more for multiple decks; but mostly it was for collect reasons) cards of the rares specifically. Commons and uncommons would not be an issue obviously.
Think about that when you consider that cards are rotated out and that there will never be a huge amount of player base in expanded formats. Also consider how many sports cards from 50 years ago are still floating around. F**k Face Ripkin cards are still being PULLED and graded 10s as of just a few months ago!
There’s plenty of everything people.
lol... this is why crack is bad, kids.
That binder is very cool. Would love to see more about how it was made.
Temporal Forces is the most interesting set since crown zenith for me! It’s my favorite set so far from Scarlet and Violet.
How does the gastly compare to the magikarp from paldea evolved?
Interesting concept. Wouldn't you expect that if the same number of packs are being opened, ultimately, for all of S&V? All things being the way they are now...there would have to be less SARs? One booster box is just an incredibly small example of the whole of all boxes. Therefor...less. Scarcity is relative, for sure. But if they didn't print fewer SARs at the warehouse....then where are they?
I only like Pokémon 151 more than Temporal Forces in the SV era
Temporal is the most interesting set since... maybe Paldea Evolved. I think there's enough there for me to like and enjoy ripping the set. It's not comparable to 151 or Paldea Evolved as those specialty sets are very much their own thing.
I completely agree with the scarcity comment you made. To think anything modern is truly rare is a bit delusional.
Happy Good Friday, Danny! Hope you and your family have a great Easter weekend!
The only cards which people are likely going to complain about are the ace specs. At least from a playable card standpoint. From a collector's standpoint yeah it's too low of pull rates. Everyone needs a prime catcher pretty much and they're going to be 35-40$ no matter what.
I’m like a broken record with this…but they should approach the artwork on full art Pokémon the same way they do with full art trainer cards
My kid pulled the Iron Crown on his first pack but it had a big old ding on the top 😢. I wish pokemon would slow down the printers and improve the quality.
Vault x has a temporal forces themed binder?
Temporal forces is the most interesting set since paldean dates. Temporal forces is extremely par for the SV era. 151 is the only noteworthy set in SV.
Temporal Force...... Or Temperamental Farces
I feel like the non ghastly IR are close to their final price and are safe to buy. If you compare them to the current prices of Paradox rift IRs you will see they are way below with the exception of ghastly.
Everyone is going to rock the Prime Catcher so much that they’ll introduce a common version in the next set like with the Iono card, maybe?
I’m not sure if that’s as easy with an ace spec. Theoretically they could put it in a starter deck like what they did with Forest Seal stone. That would destroy the price.
Okay, yeah I can see that.
@@DannyPhantump I suspect that they will include it in a future League Battle Deck (but they may not be until 2025 at this point)
I must say this set is hard to collect. I might give up on it and just buy the singles
Really like the majority of the reagular art work of this set too. The ancient mons are my favourite. Reminds me of the age of the dinosaurs
Agreed. The aesthetics of the set are super appealing.
Most interesting set since cyber judge, bought the sawsbuck and deerling on release day glad i did that might pick de gengar full art if it goes down at $6
Very valid point that ace spec cards will not be the only ones we will ever get. With the ability to only have one in your deck. Prices will be up and down all over with these.
I was used to seeing crazy drops with paldean dates but this set is completely unique and there are still crazy drops. I’m still opening one more booster box.
Love that binder.
I was able to get the 10 cards I wanted for ~$40 so it was a good enough price I felt comfortable enough locking in and putting the set out of mind, tbh
Temporal Forces is the most interesting set since Pineaple on pizza.
At least temporal forces has nice cards pineapple on pizza is a big no and shouldn't exist
right yea moonbreon is 10K and above PSA 10 but that doesn't deter it price. ES is still rare af regardless of its cards/sealed products
I'm trying real hard to keep my FOMO in check lol
You are not alone!
Will be printed for the next year prices fall like always
I ended up getting the Raging Bolt EX out of a 6 pack booster bundle. That's the first time I have pulled a top card! Watch, now it'll plummet.
I love listening to your thoughts on the market Danny, super easy to just watch and absorb a lot of information for someone who is pretty serious about the hobby but not trying to let it take over my life 😅
As you said, it is supply and demand. Give it a few weeks for more packs to open, increasing a supply of cards in the market, causing the prices to lower!
That’s a nice looking binder
Pokemon does seem committed to keeping the better performing meta decks at reasonable price levels. I would suspect that the Ace Specs will drop a ton in price. They seem very similar to Radiants in that you can only play a single one and even hit rates seem to be around 1 in 20 packs. The two radiants that carried value and saw play (Charizard and Greninja) both were later increased in supply (Greninja in league battle decks and Charizard as a reprint in Crown Zenith). I suspect that future league battle decks will have an Ace Spec in them and could see a similar reprint in next year's special set.
I also suspect that these cards only have interest in actual players (and it makes sense that Neo Upper Energy is lagging the much more playable versions of Prime Catcher and Maximum Belt). I'm not sure about adult collecters preferences but I know that children that don't play the card game are also way less interested in item cards then their favorite pokemon. So once the players (and that's a much smaller pool of people into pokemon cards) get the Ace Spec they are looking for demand drops, while supply should continue to increase as packs get opened. Unless you need one right away to make your deck better for a tournament it seems silly to not wait these out.
If Danny Phantump cards were a thing, the premier set would be calling Shining Insights
Love the calm and realistic approach to the data. I been stressing getting iron crown ex for a deck. I just need to chill! New subscriber!
Got the deerling now I need the sawsbuck I want to see them side by side so bad. Pokémon SIR’s are only getting better.
They are absolutely gorgeous together!
Temporal Forces is the most interesting set since I got back into Pokémon.
So.. I went to pricematch today at my local target, showed the guy the temporal forces etb on Google, the first image had them for around 35$ for an etb, the photo however had the two of them, and the guy at the register said “oh, 35 for the both? Okay” and rang them up for that, I walked out a happy lad, am I in the wrong?
Temporal forces it the most interesting set since crown zenith. I love the artwork on this set.
Thank you for this video Danny. So do you guys suggest I open my Booster Box or do I keep it as investment?
So you’re saying just sell our hits because they will be useless and worthless? Because I did pull Iron Crown EX and currently worth $129 CAN and keeps rising. Would like your opinion since it’s one of my best hits (from 1st ETB) bought another and got Prime Catcher 😊
Debating that myself. Got some good pulls where a couple of cards right now can get me another booster box. Oh the gamble
The most interesting set since Rebel Clash/Trash because I think it's an awful set! I'm really not a fan. Actually most of Scarlet & Violet sets (exception for 151) has been off for me. I didn't like the jeweled crowns that they started with and didn't think they could get worse but they proved me wrong: I hate what they've done to Entei by putting a salad on his head and making Tyranitar look like an air freshener/soap dispenser combo is just gross! At least it's saving me money by relieving my need to master sets. I'm now just buying the 3 to 6 singles I want per set!
I love the art, like Snom looks so good, it's got depth of field, looks crystal clear and almost AI generated. The bigger pulls too are beautiful but are they worth the hunt? time will tell.
These pull rates are brutal
On this set. Pokémon was paying attention to what they were doing. They reeled us in and hit us with brutal pull rates
Temporal forces is the most entertaining set since consmic eclipse as far as artwork goes if you ask me really enjoy the bad pull rates to so if you have one down the line it really shows whos a real collector and whos just a scalper
This year in Pokemon has hit a massive start, I wonder if they will make another evolving skies like set that will be a huge hit
I think this set should be a top set! It almost like people are letting people tell them it isn’t worth it!
Bro that gastly!
Are you not counting holo's as hits from older sets?
Once again, you’re the real hero with the market info.
I always base singles cost on what I feel its worth to me. Even if its a card I really love my financial head always wins.
I think another reason for insane prices is the focus on the swsh bb about to go out of stock on pokemon center. Alot of people trash SV, so theres less openings and eyes. Harder pull rates, less people watching and prices skyrocket. This market is all sheeps following each other and thats why paldea evolved is moving up
Danny, where do you get your binders from ?
I wont fomo anymore not after sword and shield, if things go crazy then ill pull the cards im missing
Just for me, temporal forces doesn't really have anything special in it.That really makes me want to chase so much that I would open so many booster boxes. It's just crazy to me to see so much. Speculation in a market that has so many freaking variables period with the possibility of continuing print runs. Not only that the market gets affected so much by all the people speculating and with social media fomo period they get so crazy
Temporal Forces is the only set in this era….where I haven’t pulled a single SIR. 😢😂
TF isn't a bad set, but just feels rehashed. Gengar is the best of the bunch in my book.
I like the gastly illistration rare the best love it
I have the gengar full art it looks sick
Super happy I pulled the Gastly within my first 3 packs 😮💨
Not sure what happened with your audio from 20:27-21:45 😅
Danny aka Phanny looking out for the end purchasers, you the real MVP.
Idk I had some good pulls 9 of 18 boosters have full art/illustration rares
Since they already announced 151 reprints, then they will definitely print more of TEF.
Such a good set and i was very doubtful to start with?🎉😊
Ya you and everyone else. Hahaha I can't believe people talk so much and have no clue now look
I spent 200 on 2 Booster Displays i pulled Iron Crown Ex and Gastly plus a few others but those were the ones i wanted most literally the only two ha im taking them to get graded today
Temporal Forces is the most interesting since Crown Zenith haha
I really got to get it through my thick skull that I need to buy singles and quit hoping that I will get lucky and pull a good card or one that I need I love to open packs too
Temporal forces is an awesome set and it’s the most interesting set since crown Z lots of awesome art work
I still believe this set is gonna tank, probably after some tcg comps. Sucks cuz the artworks are really nice. Hoping twilight has a little better pull rates
If I had been told that you weren't guaranteed an SAR in a booster box, i wouldn't have preordered a case with my brother. 😢
Only bought one booster box pulled the iron crown sir so probably won’t open another one my luck was used up.
I will wait 6 months to buy all the singles that I want though
Love you Danny, thanks for being an absolute legend in the community.
Always wait like 2-3 months before buying singles, prices will drop hard
Most interesting set since 151. Hasnt been long lol
6 months.
Temporal forces is the most interesting set since Paldea evolved!
This set is a great one, I didn't like paldea fates but it's this one and 151 for me
My son pulled the sar iron leaves, sar iron crown and the sat Morty in 7 packs and I pulled the gold iron crown and 3 ace specs all together it was 5 booster bundles
Temporal Forces is an interesting set. I really like it. Love the Channel.
Nice binder, Danny! :)
Got some already, would love to win to give to my son! Beautiful art work in the SV sets.
I don’t know if it was just me, but I had an echo all video
Temporal forces is the most interesting set since crown zenith.
I want to start collecting cards again but where do I start and what ones to go for ??
Collect what you like, just don’t try to catch them all unless you’re Elon musk 😆
😂 no just going try keep one set for now
Have to wonder if the Pokémon company did it on purpose
You the man Danny and give the best advice, hobby is blessed to have you!
Is someone stealing them from the factory line again ?
Danny P always giving to the community with such positive energy. Love u man!
I pulled 15 hits from my booster box!
Wow pull rates remind me of 151, hard to pull anything
And I still need to purchase some 😅
Thanks for the content! 🎉
So.... Should I sell my Gastly?
that binder should be on sale!
Pulled Iron Crown Ex and Gastly I'm done with this set already
Oops, skipped to other video and then binged watched a bunch more… well done!
Ah Danny ...for the past 6 months you have been my favorite pokemon person....until I saw that Brewers logo on your chest. Go Cubs. I suppose I can let it go given how awesome you are for us pokefans
You're a bucks and brewers fan? Let's go
My booster box had 14 hits but best hit was literally a $5 full Art…😑
Working on 2 sets currently, im going to skip TForces
Since my Mom past away on Halloween, I haven’t opened any Pokemon.