EMERGENCY over New York City / NJ - Delta 2346

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • #liveatc #airtrafficcontrol #flightincident
    August 19, 2024
    Delta flight 2346 from New York City to Miami takes off from LaGuardia airport and has leading edge flap issue on climb out. After some initial troubleshooting they decide to divert to JFK's longer runway because they are overweight for landing.
    00:10 Cleared for takeoff
    01:49 Initial problem
    06:38 An emergency is declared
    09:01 Having trouble losing altitude
    10:57 Cleared to land
    11:25 On the ground
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Комментарии • 88

  • @nicstunes
    @nicstunes 19 дней назад +33

    Top shelf coms. Give that pilot an award and give the controllers raises. All of this done in the most crowded/complex airspace.

    • @grahamcracker659
      @grahamcracker659 13 дней назад

      this is very scare, my cat sad

    • @BlueJet112
      @BlueJet112 12 дней назад

      @@grahamcracker659rip ur cat💀

    • @anitasmith4559
      @anitasmith4559 16 часов назад

      Yes. I live only miles from NWR International. On any given day/night the flights are around the clock.

  • @user-zm1ho5ko6s
    @user-zm1ho5ko6s 20 дней назад +48

    Wow, how about that Delta pilots radio work! Smooth and clear! I think it’s the best I’ve ever heard!

  • @Mrrotts17
    @Mrrotts17 19 дней назад +22

    Legend says they’re still turning left heading

  • @carcar78
    @carcar78 16 дней назад +13

    Clear, concise communication on everyone’s part. Pilot of D2346 was tremendous.

  • @placebyplace
    @placebyplace 20 дней назад +22

    Crew should get a round of applause. Fantastic job

  • @PatrickSBellSr
    @PatrickSBellSr 18 дней назад +13

    This is as good as it gets from both Crew and ATC - AWESOME example of calm and helpful comms!

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 15 дней назад +7

    The First Officer is one completely saturated/ busy individual ! Comes thru loud & clear -
    Wow ! Excellent job by a very busy crew in a very busy airspace - Guy was talk to about 6 people
    At once and kept it tight and moving smoothly ! Very professional crew -- impressive !
    Well done by all the people involved . Good job +

  • @wizerdjuice9589
    @wizerdjuice9589 20 дней назад +22

    Excellent crew and ATC.

  • @lewis_2151
    @lewis_2151 20 дней назад +23

    What a new way to get to Kennedy from LaGuardia though.

    • @homies953
      @homies953 17 дней назад +7

      The lengths people will go to avoid NY traffic 😭

    • @kenfern2259
      @kenfern2259 14 дней назад

      taylor swift be like

    • @lewis_2151
      @lewis_2151 14 дней назад

      @@kenfern2259 LOL.

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 11 дней назад

      It gives "AirTrain" a whole new meaning! lol

  • @user-kz8di6jn2k
    @user-kz8di6jn2k 18 дней назад +6

    Ed Bastian needs to have these pilots over for a nice dinner at his house. Beautiful work.

  • @bluesideup007
    @bluesideup007 14 дней назад +4

    Calmest emergency declaration ever.

  • @anitasmith4559
    @anitasmith4559 16 часов назад

    Hair raising yet in control. The focus and concentration by all parties involved is amazing.

  • @7728abbott
    @7728abbott 15 дней назад +4

    Very professional, all!

  • @peterc.marketos
    @peterc.marketos 15 дней назад +3

    Its gotta be surreal when asked for soles on board and remaining fuel for a pilot. The question that confirms its real real

  • @jeffreybrookner9251
    @jeffreybrookner9251 21 день назад +15

    The map is rotated by about 20 degrees, which makes the video a bit annoying to follow.

    • @ATCAlert
      @ATCAlert  21 день назад +4

      Thanks for your feedback.

    • @jmWhyMe
      @jmWhyMe 21 день назад +3

      LOL see my comment, similar to yours. I'm a retired Navy ship driver. The mismatch between ordered and displayed courses was driving me bananas 🍌

    • @noggin6870
      @noggin6870 20 дней назад +8

      No it isn't, and one look at a map of the NYC metro area will show you this is correct.

    • @jeffreybrookner9251
      @jeffreybrookner9251 20 дней назад +1

      @@noggin6870 yeah, you are right. I made a similar point in response to @jmWhyMe's comment, below. Something doesn't add up, but it isn't the map orientation.

    • @rynovoski
      @rynovoski 20 дней назад +2

      This is basically the exact same orientation that FlightAware uses. Someone else said it's magnetic vs. true.

  • @tydeze1
    @tydeze1 19 дней назад +6

    Pure quality

    • @bobwilson758
      @bobwilson758 15 дней назад

      Short & sweet = well said sir ! Got that quick - 😊

  • @mattthompson8487
    @mattthompson8487 19 дней назад +4

    All of the avgeeks on the plane waiting for the slats to retract: 👁️👄👁️

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 15 дней назад +2

    I would fly with these pilots for sure !! Aircraft malfunction and they handle it like PROS !
    I like the way they do business ! Delta 2346 is good .

  • @trent3872
    @trent3872 21 день назад +4

    Im imagining Benny Hill music playing as this takes place😂😂.

    • @Mikey109105
      @Mikey109105 20 дней назад +1

      I hated the show but loved the intro music, lol.

  • @Caperhere
    @Caperhere 11 дней назад +1

    From emergency to landed … 5 minutes. Pretty cool.😊

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 11 дней назад

      Probably the fastest trip from LGA to JFK ever!

  • @JH-qqqqqiim
    @JH-qqqqqiim 20 дней назад +5

    Pros on both sides

  • @MidnightAspec
    @MidnightAspec 15 дней назад +1

    ...flew over my house on the first loop.

  • @beno177
    @beno177 10 дней назад +1

    So NY put a plane in front of them for takeoff and would not let them have the right side due to traffic landing. What happened to the emergency where the pilot does what is needed. Keeping the plane up there longer could have had a different outcome. Good work Delta.

  • @colinpovey7923
    @colinpovey7923 20 дней назад +3

    What kind of an aircraft was Delta 2346?

    • @ATCAlert
      @ATCAlert  19 дней назад +2

      Boeing 737-832

  • @jmWhyMe
    @jmWhyMe 21 день назад +4

    Either your map isn't directionally true or your simulation is way off because the displayed courses never match the ordered course. 180 ordered - 160 displayed as an example.

    • @jmWhyMe
      @jmWhyMe 21 день назад

      @@justinbayse4417 see the other comment. The map is skewed...

    • @jeffreybrookner9251
      @jeffreybrookner9251 20 дней назад

      @@justinbayse4417 I pulled up a map of the area, and the map is indeed oriented correctly. However, the difference between headings and courses would not be consistently 20-ish degrees. A headwind/tailwind would have no impact, while a crosswind would have an impact that varies as the angle changes. Something else is going on.
      Regardless, it's annoying.

    • @Tom_239
      @Tom_239 20 дней назад +7

      The map is oriented to true north and ATC headings are referred to magnetic north which differs in this region by about 13 degrees from true north. 180 magnetic is about 167 true. The course flown may not be exactly as directed due to wind.

    • @trent3872
      @trent3872 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@Tom_239Wow 13° declination is a lot. But you are correct.

    • @fire9110
      @fire9110 19 дней назад +1

      Its due to magnetic variation. This is what ATC scopes look like. A true west heading is somewhere between 280 and 290.

  • @JASONCIRONE-kp4xr
    @JASONCIRONE-kp4xr 18 дней назад

    i am just glad it didnt fly by over my neighborhood

    • @CB-jq3ry
      @CB-jq3ry 18 дней назад +1

      They flew over mine, twice.

  • @rynovoski
    @rynovoski 20 дней назад +1

    Anyone know what flap setting this probably was that it was stuck at, for them to be limited to 230 kts? Maybe 5?

    • @Q1776Q
      @Q1776Q 20 дней назад +1

      Apparently it was a slat that would not retract.

    • @Pamlicojdjdj1487
      @Pamlicojdjdj1487 17 дней назад +1

      @@Q1776QNo bueno. Good call on returning back to the airport

  • @stevearcher3921
    @stevearcher3921 21 день назад +1

    Why didnt ATC just put them in a standard holding pattern?

    • @scottbeyer101
      @scottbeyer101 20 дней назад

      Yeah I kinda wondered the same. Makes for zero workload on both sides. Speculation? I'd guess the published holds are way lower by like 10 or 12,000 feet lower. In a plane that isn't properly configured, you wanna keep some altitude. Just a guess.

    • @JH-qqqqqiim
      @JH-qqqqqiim 20 дней назад +1

      They have to load the hold that’s a pain while troubleshooting. Vectors is simply turning a knob when they give you a heading.

    • @redbird444
      @redbird444 20 дней назад

      @@JH-qqqqqiim They could have selected “present position” on the hold page of the FMS with 10-mile legs easily and quickly. Just saying…

  • @JerryT21
    @JerryT21 11 дней назад

    Bravoooooooo👏👏👏👏👏

  • @user-do8um7ni1o
    @user-do8um7ni1o 11 дней назад

    Fantastico

  • @user-ld7vu4sf9j
    @user-ld7vu4sf9j 19 дней назад

    First time here. Great channel. Anyone know when it's declared an emergency versus a Mayday?

    • @fire9110
      @fire9110 19 дней назад +2

      In the US, mayday is usually reserved for immediate emergencies requiring rapid descent or otherwise and to grab attention. "Declaring an emergency" accomplishes the same task and gets priority handling but is generally not as immediately life threatening.

  • @elsunn
    @elsunn 19 дней назад +7

    Let me guess...Boeing.

  • @scottfleckner9658
    @scottfleckner9658 20 дней назад

    Why does ATC always ask how many souls on board?

    • @trilight3597
      @trilight3597 19 дней назад +6

      They are required to ask souls and fuel in case of worse case scenario and for the rescue.
      If the worse does happen, they at least know how many bodies to expect among other reasons.
      Fuel in pounds for how bad of a fire and environmental impact but again also time in the air.
      Fuel in time for ATC and other teams to know how much time they have to effectively plan.

    • @snarkybuttcrack
      @snarkybuttcrack 19 дней назад +1

      so they know how many to pray for, Jebus offers a discount package at all airports

    • @sholomschonfeld2836
      @sholomschonfeld2836 14 дней назад +4

      Because they sometimes carry human remains in the cargo hold.
      Souls tells them how many live people are on the plane.

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 11 дней назад

      @@sholomschonfeld2836 Exactly. Although not common knowledge, airlines often carry corpses and other human remains. In the event of a worst-case outcome, rescue teams want to know how many living bodies the flight started out with--no sense in trying to rescue a corpse that was already dead when the flight originated.

  • @mickeyman8046
    @mickeyman8046 15 дней назад

    Why didn't they just go to Newark Liberty?

    • @tomjones1267
      @tomjones1267 15 дней назад +1

      They need to go to an airport that can service their aircraft. JFK is it.

    • @renegadonyc
      @renegadonyc 13 дней назад +1

      people in jersey dont want to use newark

  • @stevenbush4344
    @stevenbush4344 16 дней назад

    Was this a Boeing aircraft???

    • @diegoencarnacion
      @diegoencarnacion 13 дней назад +1

      Ah yeah. Which suffered a very common failure in nearly any type of aircraft😀

  • @toddw6716
    @toddw6716 20 дней назад +1

    Push the down button

  • @dewyakana1543
    @dewyakana1543 19 дней назад +1

    MCAS?

    • @tomcatpilot1
      @tomcatpilot1 17 дней назад

      MCAS has nothing to do with controlling slats or flaps, and isn't even present on the 737-800, which is the aircraft that was involved here. MCAS only exists on the 737MAXs, which Delta doesn't even fly (yet), and is a flight characteristics augmentation computer that adjusts the elevator trip based on power inputs. However, no US airline was equipped with the MCAS options in a way that would have caused a crash like the ones that happened in Africa and Asia. Those airlines ordered cheaper variations of the airplane that allowed MCAS to be controlled by just one single source of airspeed and angle of attack data, whereas the US airlines that ordered MAXs all had chosen the option to have MCAS need 2 input sources.

    • @diegoencarnacion
      @diegoencarnacion 13 дней назад

      @@tomcatpilot1they ordered cheaper versions… really? Did you know united had an MCAS nose dive as well which the pilots successfully recovered from?

  • @EoneninefiveEtwo-ze5su
    @EoneninefiveEtwo-ze5su 20 дней назад +4

    Just another BOEING B737

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 11 дней назад

      That's an ill-informed comment. Delta's Boeing planes are actually quite old and predate all the problems that Boeing has been facing these past few years. What's really remarkable is that Delta declared an emergency in the first place inasmuch as they tend to lead all the domestic airlines in maintaining their fleet. United, American, and Spirit have emergencies on the daily, but rarely does Delta declare one.

  • @JavierBrent
    @JavierBrent 15 дней назад +1

    Instead of wasting the hole flilght and $$$$$$$$$. Can they just keep going to half way or Atlanta at 220 knots to at least complete half of the flight? Those passengers will be delayed at least 4 hours.. then board another to start the flight all over .. Maybe 10 hours delayed.. By that time they could be in Atlanta or Savanna at least and another airplane waiting for them to board there. A delay of 2-3 hours only.

    • @peterc.marketos
      @peterc.marketos 15 дней назад +2

      Soooo staying within a few mile radius of a commercial airport with a wounded aircraft with mechanical issues that easily could spiral into a situation where a heavy approach is the better option than continuing a fuel burn makes a hell of a lot more sense than continuing the route to the original destination and hoping that an airport is close by if the mechanical issues escalate. Think about it

    • @renegadonyc
      @renegadonyc 13 дней назад +4

      yeah ok mister pro keyboard pilot, i rather waste 10 hours alive than taking a dive midway to atlanta

    • @JavierBrent
      @JavierBrent 4 дня назад

      @@peterc.marketos How come a non retracting slat will "spiral into worse" ? Explain that. When charter pilot i had a baggage door opened on a Cherokee 6, cargo was secured with nets. I keep going for 1.2 hours with that noise and completed the flight.
      Pilots should not be that fragile.. Duhh !

    • @JavierBrent
      @JavierBrent 4 дня назад

      I have seen 2 engine airplanes flown on one for an hour with passengers so they could reach a better airport closer and not land overweight. Brave captain. American Airlines.

    • @JavierBrent
      @JavierBrent 4 дня назад

      @@renegadonyc Oh poor girt.. LOL>.