It's ridiculous that a person with an old DV charge can't get their rights restored. It's good that people who served their time will get their rights back.
I've stated this many times as I live in California. I agree and it is ridiculous, especially when an individual has completely the terms according to the law.
50 years ago was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI ... (Pullover arrests) All three offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY. After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) returning to civilian life (Honorable Discharge) was difficult... Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old Marine regain his gun right! When DUI arrests have NO victim, NO incident, NO accident, and NO damaged party, the 2nd Amendment "Right/Privilege" should never be "eternally abrogated"! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
USMC VETERAN (Eternal Slave): Written by a United States Marine! (50 years ago, my 3rd and last DUI) "Please Read" ...! VICTIMLESS alcohol-related traffic offenses eternally and forever remove 2-A rights which can never be expunged. (By Nexus with Federal law) The Victimless DUI convictions I had received were nearly 50 years ago! (ALL, VOID OF ACCIDENT, INCIDENT OR VICTIM) After having served (6) years as a United States Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979) returning back to civilian life was difficult … Many Marines at the time weren't as fortunate having decided to take their own lives. (23/Marines commit suicide every day!). Alcohol was my relief nearly 50 years ago before having my own family, children, and grandchildren! I served my country as a proud United States Marine (Honorably Discharged) and can no longer legally possess a single bullet for life ... (It's been 50 years...) Victimless DUI laws allow the civilian to retain the driver's license, the vehicle, and voting rights but not the 2-A Right to protect family or home! Texas & other states allow all felons including "DUI felons" to possess firearms 5 years after conviction for home protection. (Without a victim the 2nd Amendment "Right" should never be eternally removed!) - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5
how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off MENS DICKS WHEN THEYRE SLEEPING IF A WOMAN GETS PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH CUZ SHE PUNCHED A GUY IN THE MOUTH THAT'S DOMESTIC, SHES FREE TO GO. FISTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, WHY BLAME GUN RIGHTS
@Milife2023 I wish I could reenlist lol. What state are you in? Tbh I would challenge it in court under bruen if I was you. Challenge it “as applied” to you
@Milife2023 congrats. That’s a sortve laid back job. You’ll fill up Vic’s for the field and sometimes go out and resupply if needed. I assume you went to a lawyer and they said you were fine to enlist?
Did you put on your application when you purchased the gun that there was a DV charge in your back ground just curious because I was wondering what if a person checks yes on the question about dv can they still be qualified for a gun
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
It's not just your girlfriend you need to be cautious of... If you read your state's domestic violence laws it could be a cousin, brother, or a roommate or anyone you've cohabitated with even if you're not sexual partners.
Here is a list of people you can pickup a federal DV conviction charge from: current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a spouse, parent, or guardian, by a person similarly situated to a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, or by a person who has a current or recent former dating relationship with the victim.
When you get off probation and released from jail to that date your free from burdens of the coirt and probation. Its in the constitution. No court or government. Can or will not infringe on gun rights of citizens.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
I'm sorry but legally you're completely wrong in the society we live in today... Perhaps it was meant to be that way, but the Constitution and laws have been miss interpreted and distorted by the legal system.
people who prove they are a credible and significant danger to specific others, by physically damaging them, or by threatening to personally murder them, are rightfully disarmed. At least for a reasonable time.
A protective order doesn't mean they have been convicted of a crime, so this would potentially be outside of customs and traditions, and the ruling may be correct.
Those orders do get placed in a court with a judge, who does determine if there is a pattern or violent incident, and threat of harm. But some are just for unwanted contact. So they should be careful. But this guy was a real baddie, judging from his record. Some judges are true idiots and a danger to the community. Sound s like some are on the 5th circuit. But it will depend on the facts of the case, it could just be certain points that caused this decision. If not present in other cases, they may not be able to use this as precedent.
@user-zx5fo5xx3o 0 seconds ago IF A WOMAN GETS PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH CUZ SHE PUNCHED A GUY IN THE MOUTH THAT'S DOMESTIC, SHES FREE TO GO. FISTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, WHY BLAME GUN RIGHTS, HOW ABOUT KNIFE RIGHTS OR POISON OR BEING PUSHER OF A CLIFF. WOMEN DO THAT SOMETIMES
How about just barring them from being involved in a relationship instead? That isn't a protected right and I doubt it would burden the accused in any way.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
A law that can be easily ignored, at that. If you are going to cause harm to someone, you don't care what the law says. *You'd have to be crazy to get involved with someone these days. 13 years and counting....
Perhaps they feel the law has failed them by allowing their violent absuer to legally defend themselves. Why should they have to defend themselves when the law makes it so easy for them to be attacked?
@@denverlilly3669 Incredibly proud. Its not worth the time or effort, I have better things to do than lay around licking my nuts listening to someone talk about their feelz all day long. Dating is no longer just going on dates, cellphones and social media has created a scenario where insecure people want to be attached at the hip 24/7 and I'm not cool with that. Imagine going to work and not have to worry about your cellphone. Now imagine having your entire paycheck (after bills) to spend on whatever the F you want. That's my life, and its amazing. That is what friends are for, that is all the companionship I need or want. Too much baggage otherwise. So yes, I'm extremely proud.
@@denverlilly3669 In this case, people are complaining that someone not convicted of any crime and not afforded the opportunity to defend themselves in court can't be denied an enumerated right. God forbid. Here's an idea, if someone displays red flags, *stay the F away from them!* Novel idea, I know. Better yet, use your own enumerated second amendment right to arm up and protect yourself. TikTok culture and social media culture is garbage.
50 years ago was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI ... (Pullover arrests) All three offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY. After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) returning to civilian life (Honorable Discharge) was difficult... Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old Marine regain his gun right! When DUI arrests have NO victim, NO incident, NO accident, and NO damaged party, the 2nd Amendment "Right/Privilege" should never be "eternally abrogated"! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
I was false arrested for a dv. The girl was drunk and hurt herself Tring to smash my computer tower and fell backwards when she lifted it up. And ended up smashing the tower into her own face , She did tell the police the truth but they then tampered with evidence and lied and said she said I hit her even tho I heard her saying she fell. I got put in jail with no bail. So by the time we was at court 3 months later and they offered to drop it to simple assualt. And let me go home I just pled guilty to something I did not do. I could not afford a lawyer and the court lawyer just kept Tring to get me to plea guilty . Like he did not believe I was innocent.and even tho it was supposably lowered to a simple assualt I was still denied my right to own a fire arm 10 years later when I tried to get my first one ever. It was far to easy for a cop or female that just don't like you to get you charged for this..and ruin your life. I have also been denied for a few very good jobs because this false charge. I have not talked to the girl since but I'm 100% sure if I got this back into court she would tell the truth about how the amesbury mass. Police lied and tampered with evidence. If there is any lawyers out there that could help me lawsuit them for this.
I WAS TOO ! FALSE CHARGES ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
@@dabznslugg9492 you can't clear it... When it comes to the Federal law... The only way it can be "cleared" is by a pardon from the governor of your state.
Differed adjudication would mean you were never convicted of the crime. You should talk to a lawyer and see if it'll be expunged automatically or if you have to file paperwork to seal the court records.
baloney. the minute he trespasses to her curb or porch with his gun, concealed or not, with the restraining order on him ,he is going to get arrested and charged with a felony, all she has to do is call cops, it's instant and no questions asked.
Wrong. With a restraining order, he gets arrested if he violates it- all she has to do is call cops to come get him at the door etc. And then if he has a gun at that time, he gets charged with a felony.
A bill of attainder is an act of a legislature declaring a person, or a group of persons, guilty of some crime, and punishing them, often without a trial
i personally no how dv charges can ruin your life from personal experience my son had a bruise on his cheek and the school nurse called cys 3 years and over 15 court hearings later the said i was facing 5 years in jail if found guilty of child abuse mind you my son said that i didnt do anything to him and he fell on his train table and got the bruise himself cys and the cops pressured him (him being 6 years old at the time) to say i hurt him i took a plea unbeknownst to me just to avoid going to jail having to have the court case go on for any longer and to not traumatize my son and make him have to go to court and testify infront of a judge and jury i still live with him today and he says i never hurt him but i got my rights taken from me i would have never took the plea if i would have been told i was gonna lose my rights i only got probation so i didnt really care because i wanted it to be done with but nobody ever told me i was gonna lose my rights..... since finding out i dont no what to do.. the fear of jail and the whole thing being over and done with was the driving factor for me to not take a chance with fighting it because say i was found guilty i go to jail my sons mom still isnt in his life so he would have ended up in the system i was 24 at the time with nobody to tell me any better....
I still was denied even after this ruling i dont understand... i just wanna be able to defend myself and my family.. im not looking to break laws or hurt anyone the laws are unconstitutional anyone with any advice feel free to chime in please
@@addicted2toolsme 2 bro I got hit with a “terroristic threat fam”and had no idea about taking my gun rights away and did not know anything about court system and terms and pleaded guilty and dint get lawyer since i though was an insignificant charge,i got punched multiple times by my mom and she got dismissed,wtf
I lost my gun rights in Colorado domestic violence the neighbors called the cops because she was screaming at me for being late. No violence involved but still lost my rights. So now i can't protect my family. Classic government move just another way to disarm us. I guess I'll have to work on my ninja skills for home protecting. Knife to a gun fight wish me luck guys
There's a lot of really bad problems with how the laws governing domestic violence and federal gun rights restored are written. Including the fact that the ATF is supposed to make decisions on weather or non criminals have been reformed however they have been defunded
@@cobainzlady agreed lol I'm just explaining from my point of view someone who was wrongfully convicted of domestic violence but still wants to serve in the military and is trying to win in court to do so.
uh, we don't really know the details that were ruled against. This is a federal law. I would think a state law could be crafted to make it work. This would have to be done carefully. This one guy had already gotten in trouble in ways that indicate he's a danger to others.
I've been very confused on this for awhile. I had a stupid domestic happen to me in 2011 for grabbing a cellphone from someone. No hitting or violence of any kind. I completed all the terms of the court and all the counseling. They said if I did I would have my gun rights restored. This was in Northern NV. I have bought legal guns private party with bill of sales. I have been pulled over many times and officers have checked my guns and given them right back to me. I'm assuming since I didn't go to jail for having them and returned to me that my gun rights have been restored ? In turn I should be able to go in and purchase a gun legally. This has always confused me.
Your luck may change. Many old domestic violence convictions were not reported or recorded by the federal government correctly. They're going over people's old convictions and when they see it a domestic violence charge they're putting you on the NICS prohibited list of owning a gun. If you ever try to buy a gun you'll probably be denied or could be in the near future. The law that you cannot buy or have a gun is Federal.
The Double Jeopardy Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits anyone from being prosecuted twice for substantially the same crime.
@cobainzlady yes, they did do this. In 92 i was falsely accused of misdemeaner corporal punishment. Cpl days jail. In 1996 they added a second more stronger sentence retroactively of a lifetime firearm ban without due process and without informing me this was done. I found out in 2018 from denied nics 4473.
@cobainzlady its like pssing a law saying goin over speed limit is a danger to society so if you've ever gotten a speeding ticket in the past, then you are banned for life from ever driving or posessing a motor vehicle ever again, without due process and without telling you. If you ever get caught driving again its an automatic felony with 10 yr prison sentence and a $250,000 fine. This is Laughtenberg Amendment 18usc922g9 to my 2A.
I AGREE 100 % RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
@@219Fishing you will have to file for a full pardon from the governor is my understanding. It’s an unjust and unfair law. Most lawyers won’t even take the case because it’s a lost cause. I know there are some grassroots movements to take this case to the Supreme Court. If you have a petition, I’ll sign it.
@@219Fishing TheTrellis77 is correct... It's a federal law and even an expungement will not allow you to purchase or own guns legally. You actually have to get a pardon from the governor of your State. It may also be possible, but VERY unlikely, for a lawyer to review your old case and find a critical error where it could be reheard or dismissed.
Correct. Quite a few of them make excuses for the violence and run right back to them. It isn't our fault they can't keep their feelz in check. Its like dancing around a rattlesnake and being upset that it bit you. Abusers will always be abusive, no amount of fancy talk or promises change that. If someone is stupid enough to continually be in that person's presense.. what do you expect is going to happen? You won't change them. They don't mean it when the apologize. Its all a bunch of BS TikTok Jersey Shore MTV wannabes anyhow. If someone is violent/dangerous, stay the hell away from them. If they continue to pursue you, you can then have them charged with *actual* crimes like stalking, harassment, intimidation, etc.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
Where do you get this crap that anyone with a DV is guilty? I know people who have gotten into a fight with their cousin at a wedding and gotten a domestic violence charge.
Ridiculous to think that a felon can get gun rights restored but not a person with an old DV charge
Yeah they could be on 4th marriage and not give a rip about girlfriend #13 from when they were 22...
It's ridiculous that a person with an old DV charge can't get their rights restored.
It's good that people who served their time will get their rights back.
I've stated this many times as I live in California. I agree and it is ridiculous, especially when an individual has completely the terms according to the law.
RIGHT AS RAIN, THANKS
50 years ago was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI ... (Pullover arrests)
All three offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY.
After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) returning to civilian life (Honorable Discharge) was difficult...
Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old Marine regain his gun right!
When DUI arrests have NO victim, NO incident, NO accident, and NO damaged party, the 2nd Amendment "Right/Privilege" should never be "eternally abrogated"!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
No MISDEMEANOR should ban one from their Second Amendment. If it is that serious, charge the crime as a FELONY. This repeals the LAUTENBERG ACT.
Exactly!!
USMC VETERAN (Eternal Slave):
Written by a United States Marine! (50 years ago, my 3rd and last DUI) "Please Read" ...!
VICTIMLESS alcohol-related traffic offenses eternally and forever remove 2-A rights which can never be expunged. (By Nexus with Federal law)
The Victimless DUI convictions I had received were nearly 50 years ago! (ALL, VOID OF ACCIDENT, INCIDENT OR VICTIM)
After having served (6) years as a United States Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979) returning back to civilian life was difficult …
Many Marines at the time weren't as fortunate having decided to take their own lives. (23/Marines commit suicide every day!).
Alcohol was my relief nearly 50 years ago before having my own family, children, and grandchildren!
I served my country as a proud United States Marine (Honorably Discharged) and can no longer legally possess a single bullet for life ... (It's been 50 years...)
Victimless DUI laws allow the civilian to retain the driver's license, the vehicle, and voting rights but not the 2-A Right to protect family or home!
Texas & other states allow all felons including "DUI felons" to possess firearms 5 years after conviction for home protection. (Without a victim the 2nd Amendment "Right" should never be eternally removed!)
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5
everyone should be allowed under constitutional law
unless they are really guilty of Cannibalism or Jack the Ripper but he used a knife
how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off MENS DICKS WHEN THEYRE SLEEPING
IF A WOMAN GETS PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH CUZ SHE PUNCHED A GUY IN THE MOUTH THAT'S DOMESTIC, SHES FREE TO GO. FISTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, WHY BLAME GUN RIGHTS
Someone should challenge lautenberg in the same court. A misdemeanor LIFETIME ban? Unconstitutional.
@Milife2023 I wish I could reenlist lol. What state are you in? Tbh I would challenge it in court under bruen if I was you. Challenge it “as applied” to you
@Milife2023 don’t just say it, do it!!! Find the right lawyer. Go all the way to the federal appeals court and supreme if you can
@Milife2023 wow say whaaaaaaaat? Tell me what happen! Congrats what branch did you join and what’s your Mos
@Milife2023 congrats. That’s a sortve laid back job. You’ll fill up Vic’s for the field and sometimes go out and resupply if needed. I assume you went to a lawyer and they said you were fine to enlist?
Exactly
This Dv ban is bs I was accused of Dv because I was leaving her and I called the cops and I get arrested because she said I hit her
Yep same here. I'm in family court and she accused me but I was never charged.
Had an ex do the same. She started checking me so I pushed her off of me. I left her that night. She pressed charges on me
I am a person that has a dv on my background and am thankful that I have the right to possess a firearm still hearing this
Did you put on your application when you purchased the gun that there was a DV charge in your back ground just curious because I was wondering what if a person checks yes on the question about dv can they still be qualified for a gun
How can you. All DV conditions are illegal to possess a gun under federal law. How did you do it? And did the ATF break your door down yet Waco style?
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
You are illegally in possession of a firearm.hate to tell you.
But that same gun in the house can save the victim's life also.. so point being ? And his NUMBERS ARE SOOO wrong..
is it about the gun being in the house? He won't live there if there's a restraining order though.
Men walk away she is not worth your gun rights.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
It's not just your girlfriend you need to be cautious of... If you read your state's domestic violence laws it could be a cousin, brother, or a roommate or anyone you've cohabitated with even if you're not sexual partners.
Here is a list of people you can pickup a federal DV conviction charge from: current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a spouse, parent, or guardian, by a person similarly situated to a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, or by a person who has a current or recent former dating relationship with the victim.
They cant take away your rights, we the people have to arm ourselves to protect ourselves and our families.
YES !
When you get off probation and released from jail to that date your free from burdens of the coirt and probation. Its in the constitution. No court or government. Can or will not infringe on gun rights of citizens.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
I'm sorry but legally you're completely wrong in the society we live in today... Perhaps it was meant to be that way, but the Constitution and laws have been miss interpreted and distorted by the legal system.
All traditional guns laws are based on racism. The second amendment says nothing about taking away a persons arms for a felony or domestic assualt
people who prove they are a credible and significant danger to specific others, by physically damaging them, or by threatening to personally murder them, are rightfully disarmed. At least for a reasonable time.
A protective order doesn't mean they have been convicted of a crime, so this would potentially be outside of customs and traditions, and the ruling may be correct.
Those orders do get placed in a court with a judge, who does determine if there is a pattern or violent incident, and threat of harm. But some are just for unwanted contact. So they should be careful. But this guy was a real baddie, judging from his record. Some judges are true idiots and a danger to the community. Sound s like some are on the 5th circuit. But it will depend on the facts of the case, it could just be certain points that caused this decision. If not present in other cases, they may not be able to use this as precedent.
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IF A WOMAN GETS PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH CUZ SHE PUNCHED A GUY IN THE MOUTH THAT'S DOMESTIC, SHES FREE TO GO. FISTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, WHY BLAME GUN RIGHTS, HOW ABOUT KNIFE RIGHTS OR POISON OR BEING PUSHER OF A CLIFF. WOMEN DO THAT SOMETIMES
that's what she did to me i went to jail
If they didn't need domestic battery laws in 1791 why do they need them now
500%, PBS interviewer said 400%... Why not just say it increases the chances 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% if you're just a bunch of liars
YES ! RIGHT AS RAIN
How about just barring them from being involved in a relationship instead? That isn't a protected right and I doubt it would burden the accused in any way.
the law in 1791 didn't say anything about criminals, so that would change also.
shall not be infringed is clear as day to me. I really just don't get it... "freedom"
@@frederichcaetano7852 agreed!!
Right, agreed.
Limiting access to any gun by any person is wrong under 2A.
Armed citizens outnumber scum. It'll sort itself out, eventually.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
Maybe women who are under threat from their partners should learn how to defend themselves and not rely on a law to do it.
A law that can be easily ignored, at that. If you are going to cause harm to someone, you don't care what the law says.
*You'd have to be crazy to get involved with someone these days. 13 years and counting....
Perhaps they feel the law has failed them by allowing their violent absuer to legally defend themselves. Why should they have to defend themselves when the law makes it so easy for them to be attacked?
@@av883You're proud you haven't been involved with anyone in 13 years?
@@denverlilly3669 Incredibly proud. Its not worth the time or effort, I have better things to do than lay around licking my nuts listening to someone talk about their feelz all day long. Dating is no longer just going on dates, cellphones and social media has created a scenario where insecure people want to be attached at the hip 24/7 and I'm not cool with that.
Imagine going to work and not have to worry about your cellphone. Now imagine having your entire paycheck (after bills) to spend on whatever the F you want. That's my life, and its amazing.
That is what friends are for, that is all the companionship I need or want.
Too much baggage otherwise. So yes, I'm extremely proud.
@@denverlilly3669 In this case, people are complaining that someone not convicted of any crime and not afforded the opportunity to defend themselves in court can't be denied an enumerated right. God forbid.
Here's an idea, if someone displays red flags, *stay the F away from them!* Novel idea, I know.
Better yet, use your own enumerated second amendment right to arm up and protect yourself.
TikTok culture and social media culture is garbage.
50 years ago was my (3rd) third Non-Violent/Victimless DUI ... (Pullover arrests)
All three offenses were VOID OF VICTIM, INCIDENT, ACCIDENT, and DAMAGED PARTY.
After serving (6) years as a front-line Marine during the Iranian crisis (1979), (Before having a wife, children, and grandchildren) returning to civilian life (Honorable Discharge) was difficult...
Can the Bruen decision help this 67-year-old Marine regain his gun right!
When DUI arrests have NO victim, NO incident, NO accident, and NO damaged party, the 2nd Amendment "Right/Privilege" should never be "eternally abrogated"!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
I was false arrested for a dv. The girl was drunk and hurt herself Tring to smash my computer tower and fell backwards when she lifted it up. And ended up smashing the tower into her own face , She did tell the police the truth but they then tampered with evidence and lied and said she said I hit her even tho I heard her saying she fell. I got put in jail with no bail. So by the time we was at court 3 months later and they offered to drop it to simple assualt. And let me go home I just pled guilty to something I did not do. I could not afford a lawyer and the court lawyer just kept Tring to get me to plea guilty . Like he did not believe I was innocent.and even tho it was supposably lowered to a simple assualt I was still denied my right to own a fire arm 10 years later when I tried to get my first one ever. It was far to easy for a cop or female that just don't like you to get you charged for this..and ruin your life. I have also been denied for a few very good jobs because this false charge. I have not talked to the girl since but I'm 100% sure if I got this back into court she would tell the truth about how the amesbury mass. Police lied and tampered with evidence. If there is any lawyers out there that could help me lawsuit them for this.
Are you in California? I know someone can help claer your case they cleared mine
Who ? I need help with that to
@@dabznslugg9492 ?
I WAS TOO ! FALSE CHARGES ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
@@dabznslugg9492 you can't clear it... When it comes to the Federal law... The only way it can be "cleared" is by a pardon from the governor of your state.
So I just got off deferred adj so there’s no conviction. Can I carry my gun again? 🤔
Differed adjudication would mean you were never convicted of the crime. You should talk to a lawyer and see if it'll be expunged automatically or if you have to file paperwork to seal the court records.
A victim of this in 2014.
-Point Man of Zero Dark Thirty
Ro filings are easy to misuse. Some people were in toxic relationships and both sucked.
a Restraining order isn't always for abuse. And they shoul d not always have a weapon clause.
Heroin is illegal. But if someone wants heroin, they can get it. Same with guns. Restrictions dont work.
baloney. the minute he trespasses to her curb or porch with his gun, concealed or not, with the restraining order on him ,he is going to get arrested and charged with a felony, all she has to do is call cops, it's instant and no questions asked.
@@cobainzlady And if that is what he did, then the restriction didnt work, as he had a gun....restrictions dont work.
Do people not get that no matter what law is written- does not mattter . If they want gun those will get them
Wrong. With a restraining order, he gets arrested if he violates it- all she has to do is call cops to come get him at the door etc. And then if he has a gun at that time, he gets charged with a felony.
A bill of attainder is an act of a legislature declaring a person, or a group of persons, guilty of some crime, and punishing them, often without a trial
It's about damn time quit violating our second amendment rights
i personally no how dv charges can ruin your life from personal experience my son had a bruise on his cheek and the school nurse called cys 3 years and over 15 court hearings later the said i was facing 5 years in jail if found guilty of child abuse mind you my son said that i didnt do anything to him and he fell on his train table and got the bruise himself cys and the cops pressured him (him being 6 years old at the time) to say i hurt him i took a plea unbeknownst to me just to avoid going to jail having to have the court case go on for any longer and to not traumatize my son and make him have to go to court and testify infront of a judge and jury i still live with him today and he says i never hurt him but i got my rights taken from me i would have never took the plea if i would have been told i was gonna lose my rights i only got probation so i didnt really care because i wanted it to be done with but nobody ever told me i was gonna lose my rights..... since finding out i dont no what to do.. the fear of jail and the whole thing being over and done with was the driving factor for me to not take a chance with fighting it because say i was found guilty i go to jail my sons mom still isnt in his life so he would have ended up in the system i was 24 at the time with nobody to tell me any better....
I still was denied even after this ruling i dont understand... i just wanna be able to defend myself and my family.. im not looking to break laws or hurt anyone the laws are unconstitutional anyone with any advice feel free to chime in please
Im not a felon either btw
@@addicted2toolsme 2 bro I got hit with a “terroristic threat fam”and had no idea about taking my gun rights away and did not know anything about court system and terms and pleaded guilty and dint get lawyer since i though was an insignificant charge,i got punched multiple times by my mom and she got dismissed,wtf
I lost my gun rights in Colorado domestic violence the neighbors called the cops because she was screaming at me for being late. No violence involved but still lost my rights. So now i can't protect my family. Classic government move just another way to disarm us. I guess I'll have to work on my ninja skills for home protecting. Knife to a gun fight wish me luck guys
There's a lot of really bad problems with how the laws governing domestic violence and federal gun rights restored are written. Including the fact that the ATF is supposed to make decisions on weather or non criminals have been reformed however they have been defunded
no, the ATF was making up laws and they are NOT authorized as an agency, to make laws. THAT is up to legislatures and congress.
@@cobainzlady agreed lol I'm just explaining from my point of view someone who was wrongfully convicted of domestic violence but still wants to serve in the military and is trying to win in court to do so.
everyone should be allowed under constitutional law
unless they are really guilty of Cannibalism or Jack the Ripper but he used a knife
uh, we don't really know the details that were ruled against. This is a federal law. I would think a state law could be crafted to make it work. This would have to be done carefully. This one guy had already gotten in trouble in ways that indicate he's a danger to others.
I've been very confused on this for awhile. I had a stupid domestic happen to me in 2011 for grabbing a cellphone from someone. No hitting or violence of any kind. I completed all the terms of the court and all the counseling. They said if I did I would have my gun rights restored. This was in Northern NV. I have bought legal guns private party with bill of sales. I have been pulled over many times and officers have checked my guns and given them right back to me. I'm assuming since I didn't go to jail for having them and returned to me that my gun rights have been restored ? In turn I should be able to go in and purchase a gun legally. This has always confused me.
Just build a gun yourself and skip the shopping trip. It's your god given right.
ME TOO, FRAMED, THANK GOD, ONE GOOD JUDGE
SUPREME COURT SHOULD OVER RIDE STATE I THINK
Your luck may change. Many old domestic violence convictions were not reported or recorded by the federal government correctly. They're going over people's old convictions and when they see it a domestic violence charge they're putting you on the NICS prohibited list of owning a gun. If you ever try to buy a gun you'll probably be denied or could be in the near future. The law that you cannot buy or have a gun is Federal.
Did you ever get to know how you got lucky after all?
The Double Jeopardy Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits anyone from being prosecuted twice for substantially the same crime.
they didn't do that. you are conflating laws.
@cobainzlady yes, they did do this. In 92 i was falsely accused of misdemeaner corporal punishment. Cpl days jail. In 1996 they added a second more stronger sentence retroactively of a lifetime firearm ban without due process and without informing me this was done. I found out in 2018 from denied nics 4473.
@cobainzlady its like pssing a law saying goin over speed limit is a danger to society so if you've ever gotten a speeding ticket in the past, then you are banned for life from ever driving or posessing a motor vehicle ever again, without due process and without telling you. If you ever get caught driving again its an automatic felony with 10 yr prison sentence and a $250,000 fine. This is Laughtenberg Amendment 18usc922g9 to my 2A.
I agree with the court
I AGREE 100 % RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
Does this apply in all states ? I’m in Indiana with a domestic battery ?
Yea it’s a federal law. You may not be barred on a state level, but you are on a federal level
@@TheTrellis77 So can I file a petition for restoration of gun rights ?
@@219Fishing you will have to file for a full pardon from the governor is my understanding. It’s an unjust and unfair law. Most lawyers won’t even take the case because it’s a lost cause. I know there are some grassroots movements to take this case to the Supreme Court. If you have a petition, I’ll sign it.
@@219Fishing TheTrellis77 is correct... It's a federal law and even an expungement will not allow you to purchase or own guns legally. You actually have to get a pardon from the governor of your State. It may also be possible, but VERY unlikely, for a lawyer to review your old case and find a critical error where it could be reheard or dismissed.
We do not care
Correct. Quite a few of them make excuses for the violence and run right back to them. It isn't our fault they can't keep their feelz in check.
Its like dancing around a rattlesnake and being upset that it bit you. Abusers will always be abusive, no amount of fancy talk or promises change that. If someone is stupid enough to continually be in that person's presense.. what do you expect is going to happen?
You won't change them. They don't mean it when the apologize. Its all a bunch of BS TikTok Jersey Shore MTV wannabes anyhow.
If someone is violent/dangerous, stay the hell away from them. If they continue to pursue you, you can then have them charged with *actual* crimes like stalking, harassment, intimidation, etc.
@@av883 and stick with it.
RIGHT ! how did anyone conclude more likely by 500 percent, i want to see what that math is based on beside paranoid old dried up women. thank you Karen Bobitt, don't be so annoying and disturbing the peace all the time. maybe knives and forks should be an issue and stop cutting off male appendages
Anyone with a DV is guilty. But to have lifetime ban is unjust. 25 year MAX should suffice. Let an old man protect his home.
Where do you get this crap that anyone with a DV is guilty? I know people who have gotten into a fight with their cousin at a wedding and gotten a domestic violence charge.
I think that 5x statistic is bs.
If her stats are even close to true, it only proves the Lautenberg Act never worked anyway. Kinda like the "Assault Weapon" ban from 1994-2004.
The laurtenburg amendment was an unconstitutional attack
Did they pass this law for Illinois?