According to the UK brochure, the Fuchs forged wheels weigh 75kg for the set (including tyres) where as the Serac wheels weigh 82kg for the set. That would imply each Serac wheel weighs 1.75kg more than the Fuchs wheels!
Nice ! I can not change my car anymore . I have chosen blue abysse with sérac in the légendé version. Big brakes, special exhaust and premium audio. Telemetrics and blue brakes. When is your date of last dissision ?
Good one! Biggest questionmarks for track oriented buyers I believe are the active sport exhaust and performance brakes. For example, the coming Litchfield tuning stage 2 looks like it will involve changing the exhaust and if that is the case it might be worth saving some 1700 EUR by not ticking active sport exhaust. If aftermarket brake calipers will be needed for extended track sessions, it is probably better (and cheaper) to buy suitable discs at the same time than to order the 320 mm discs. My current thinking is to go with the brake upgrade (as i believe the lightness of the car makes it likely that the brembo brakes will support real track use) but skip the active sports exhaust (as I am positive that I will want to tune the engine which is very likely to require an aftermarket exhaust system ). Thoughts?
If you plan to go for Litchfield 2 it seems a good idea not to tick the sports exhaust box. Hell, if you are aiming primarily for a track car, it might even be a good idea to order a Pure with almost zero options and fix aftermarket wheels (eg oz ultraleggeras), brakes and engine tuning afterwards. Personally I aim to use my Alpine as an everyday car so that path would not be for me.😀
I almost ordered my Alpine in spring of last year, then decided to put it on the backburner, and wait for the "deuxième édition" in a year or two: There have been some rumours that there might even still be a stick shift "in the works" for a later release: Can you tell us anything in that regard?
Apparently Alpine chose only to offer a DSG because offering a manual too would have meant significant investments, while very few tend to order stickshifts these days. I believe Porsche is down close to 10-ish % manuals for the 911 range. Sad. I am only speculating, but I would think a more track focused GT4 version might be the first development priority. But right now i think the factory is just struggling to satisfy the demand and keep up quality levels.
@@alpinea110channel4 thanks for your reply, I had heard about the reasons for the DSG. "struggling to meet demand" is probably an understatement at this point, as I was told by alpine it would be "at least a year" until I had the car, so that tells me it will actually be more like 18 months. I was also put off (for now, that is) by some of cheap features, such as the engine cover: how long would the material used hold up to wear? what will this "design classic" look like in ten years? I had my reservations and now you seem to be saying that alpine is facing quality issues; if that is indeed the case, I`m not really surprised. finally, I had also been considering getting a used porsche boxster (6 cylinder, of course) instead, but here in germany, everybody seems to own one of those! hardly very original. last but not least, the porsche dealership indeed confirmed that orders for stickshifts for boxster, cayman and/or 911 models are now way below 10%, and rapidly approaching the 5% mark...
@@donkeyshot8472 I have not heard of any quality issues whatsoever, but meeting customer expectations at an entirely new price points must be a challenge for Alpine/Renault. Personally, I have no problems with a quality experience slightly below the German premium brands, as long as the driving experience is absolutely top. And as the car now wins almost every test against Caymans, M2 and so on, it seems to be exceptional. We will soon see!
The configurator does not include all options. It is nice but it is not yet useful to spec the car. Download the franch and english pdf and look there instead.
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Having got a Premiere Edition, I can confirm the sports exhaust should be your number one priority - it’s amazing
Another great video!
Breaking news! The forged 18" rims from Fuchs weigh 7,5 kg each. The cast 18" Serac rim weighs 8,2 kg. I will go for the Seracs...
According to the UK brochure, the Fuchs forged wheels weigh 75kg for the set (including tyres) where as the Serac wheels weigh 82kg for the set. That would imply each Serac wheel weighs 1.75kg more than the Fuchs wheels!
Nice ! I can not change my car anymore . I have chosen blue abysse with sérac in the légendé version. Big brakes, special exhaust and premium audio. Telemetrics and blue brakes. When is your date of last dissision ?
I think it is by the end of January. Cool that we ended up with almost the same spec!
Maybe even sisters in the factory. I have understand they finish 15 - 20 each day and that one car from beginning to end takes 15 days .
White metallic(Iris) Pure with Fuchs ordered!
That will look sweet!
Good one! Biggest questionmarks for track oriented buyers I believe are the active sport exhaust and performance brakes. For example, the coming Litchfield tuning stage 2 looks like it will involve changing the exhaust and if that is the case it might be worth saving some 1700 EUR by not ticking active sport exhaust. If aftermarket brake calipers will be needed for extended track sessions, it is probably better (and cheaper) to buy suitable discs at the same time than to order the 320 mm discs. My current thinking is to go with the brake upgrade (as i believe the lightness of the car makes it likely that the brembo brakes will support real track use) but skip the active sports exhaust (as I am positive that I will want to tune the engine which is very likely to require an aftermarket exhaust system ). Thoughts?
If you plan to go for Litchfield 2 it seems a good idea not to tick the sports exhaust box. Hell, if you are aiming primarily for a track car, it might even be a good idea to order a Pure with almost zero options and fix aftermarket wheels (eg oz ultraleggeras), brakes and engine tuning afterwards. Personally I aim to use my Alpine as an everyday car so that path would not be for me.😀
@@alpinea110channel4 Meaning you won´t do Litchfield 2 type engine upgrade...do u believe that?
@@peterstubkonto i had planned for Litch 1, how much more do you get with Litch 2?
@@alpinea110channel4 Another 19 bhp for a claimed 315 vs 296 for stage 1. I think that should still be a faily "safe" level.
@@peterstubkonto If you leave me in the dust on the track I can just blaim my lack of 20-some horses...😀
I almost ordered my Alpine in spring of last year, then decided to put it on the backburner, and wait for the "deuxième édition" in a year or two: There have been some rumours that there might even still be a stick shift "in the works" for a later release: Can you tell us anything in that regard?
Apparently Alpine chose only to offer a DSG because offering a manual too would have meant significant investments, while very few tend to order stickshifts these days. I believe Porsche is down close to 10-ish % manuals for the 911 range. Sad. I am only speculating, but I would think a more track focused GT4 version might be the first development priority. But right now i think the factory is just struggling to satisfy the demand and keep up quality levels.
@@alpinea110channel4 thanks for your reply, I had heard about the reasons for the DSG. "struggling to meet demand" is probably an understatement at this point, as I was told by alpine it would be "at least a year" until I had the car, so that tells me it will actually be more like 18 months. I was also put off (for now, that is) by some of cheap features, such as the engine cover: how long would the material used hold up to wear? what will this "design classic" look like in ten years? I had my reservations and now you seem to be saying that alpine is facing quality issues; if that is indeed the case, I`m not really surprised. finally, I had also been considering getting a used porsche boxster (6 cylinder, of course) instead, but here in germany, everybody seems to own one of those! hardly very original. last but not least, the porsche dealership indeed confirmed that orders for stickshifts for boxster, cayman and/or 911 models are now way below 10%, and rapidly approaching the 5% mark...
@@donkeyshot8472 I have not heard of any quality issues whatsoever, but meeting customer expectations at an entirely new price points must be a challenge for Alpine/Renault. Personally, I have no problems with a quality experience slightly below the German premium brands, as long as the driving experience is absolutely top. And as the car now wins almost every test against Caymans, M2 and so on, it seems to be exceptional. We will soon see!
The configurator does not include all options. It is nice but it is not yet useful to spec the car. Download the franch and english pdf and look there instead.
Just a fab car....👏