Bipolar 2 Symptoms That Went Unnoticed
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2017
- When I was younger, I had bipolar 2 symptoms that went unnoticed. Why? Because I was a kid and people just attributed those symptoms of bipolar disorder to other things. For instance, in kindergarten I received a diagnosis of a learning disability that counselors referred to as "Wandering Syndrome." I was an excellent student, kind to others but my overactive imagination and emotional way of thinking caused me to drift when teachers were speaking to me. It prevented me from thriving academically.
In this video, I share the symptoms of bipolar 2 disorder that have been present since childhood. These symptoms include extreme empathy, sensitivity and an imaginative way of thinking that subtly distanced me from reality.
Did you experience bipolar symptoms that went unnoticed at first? And what symptoms finally led others to be concerned about your mental health? Please share your thoughts in the comment section below or do a response video and send it into info@healthyplace.com. See you next week! Hannah
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Another symptom is we are all fine as hell.
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I concur
Yep
Nope that’s grandiosity 😂
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As someone with type 2, the empathy part is very true. You really can feel the emotion on almost a physical level. For me, I get severe cases of apathy. It’s as if I couldn’t care less about how others feel. Some days I make it my personal goal to make everyone I know smile or laugh. It takes some heavy switches. Sometimes on the same day. I’m actually glad this popped up on my feed because hardly anyone really gets bipolar disorder right.
I can relate to this a lot
Can I ask how.long did it take.to get tour diagnosis ... my psychiatrist diagnose me in like an hour which i find utterly ridiculous
kinda happened to me once i remember in the car i was hypomanic in the morning and on the car ride i just got depressed and i could feel it
@@saltybutnotverysweet3862 how do you feel it? Because I get Lethargic and sleepy. Is depression physical like that OR just a sense of hopelessness?
Marco Gobea the best thing you could do for yourself is to see a psych. They will answer any questions you have completely. if you don’t agree w their diagnosis go see another one. (words from a diagnosed type 2 bipolar)
Anyone get weird physical symptoms? When I am hypomanic, my body feels like there is a current of electricity going through me. Then I start speaking fast. Sometimes I feel like I am not even in my body.
I experience all of these. I'll start talking (usually just gibberish, random sounds or singing) and not even consciously realize I'm making noise until like 2-3 seconds after I do. I also tend to dissociate a lot.
omgggg me too its like i get so excited and i cant control it and i speak so fast i stutter and then cry of like excitemenr
@@haleyrosemedley same
Melissa i’ve been wondering this myself! To be honest I haven’t been diagnosed yet but I feel as though I’ve experience every single hypomanic symptoms; and often in the same span over several days... I’ve mentioned it to my therapist but he seemed hesitant to talk about that. Until our last session, when I told him it was happening again (he’s only seen me when I’m in more of a stable/depressed mood)... I told him I think the cycle is starting over. I started sleeping less, I have a surge of energy... and after my therapy, it got more intense! I was so restless and fidgety yesterday. Oh, and I really don’t feel like sleeping even though I know I should if my suspicions are correct. But yeah, when I start to feel much better I notice my energy builds up and feels uncontrollable... like I HAVE to release it. I fidget, I get goofy, loud... etc. I’m more easily distracted, and I try to enjoy myself more overall. I start thinking of a bunch of new ideas, and I believe “I’m finally good and ready to start working on this”. But through a lot of personal research, feedback from friends, and practicing self awareness/journaling I’ve been able to notice this feeling never lasts. I slowly start losing energy until I’m all the way on the other end for a few weeks; depressed... regretting all the things I committed to doing and plans I made, and things I said, etc... the last few months have been different though. When the energy begins to surge it becomes so overwhelming I get anxious... I even thought once my friend was about to kill me... literally I had the randomest paranoia... and I get so anxious and irritable and everything feels loud and too fast all of a sudden. I’ve been struggling with urges to cut whenever that happens. To make it all stop. And once it reaches that point, I always end up collapsing right back into a depressed mode for a week or two or three, or however long it lasts that time... and the lst few crashed have been the worst I’ve had in years; so bad I even started planning my suicide about 3-4 weeks ago. But now I miraculously feel better and don’t plan to kill myself. But I know the crash may soon follow... so I made a list of all these symptoms and sort of a timeline of when I’ve had them... I’m hoping my therapist can verify for me if he thinks I should get diagnosed. A lot of friends and family are worried I might be exaggerating my symptoms but there’s so much they don’t know about me... so many reckless things I’ve done when I’m “high” (and I mean naturally, not with drugs!). And they have no clue about the suicidal stuff... they honestly just don’t know the whole story. And if they did IDK if they would ever look at me the same even if I do get diagnosed, because I’ve done some things that make it hard to trust myself; and I’ve unintentionally hurt them through reckless spending a lot (which I’ve lied to them about after). I had a sexual affair... unprotected and had a pregnancy scare... I’ve definitely had signs of hypersexuality. Driving so ridiculous my friends have been scared to get in a car with me. But once my mood levels out, all this stops. It’s like I’m another person almost. And of course once I’m depressed, all that slows down or is almost completely nonexistent lol it’s weird... but when I learn about bipolar disorder it makes me feel like this could be why, like it just makes sense to me... it all connects and clicks. I’m hoping my therapist believes me when I share everything with him. I really want to get screened to be sure. I hear it takes years for most people to be properly diagnosed and I know I might have no choice but to wait a bit, but I also know if I’m honest with him and can point to specific things he’ll be more likely to see that I might be on to something... I know sometimes doctors want to see it in action to diagnose it, so maybe starting to feel what I think is hypomanic is a good thing so that he’ll finally see what I have such a hard time explaining. Sorry I’m so rambly right now... another reason I think I have it. I can’t shut off my thoughts and just wanna keep talking and doing things. Ugh... Anyway... yeah yesterday I was bursting with energy; it was a mix of feeling euphoric and dysphoric though... my thoughts were a little extreme and I wanted to release the energy any way I could. Running, screaming, singing on top of my lungs, pacing back and forth, etc. And it feels like my whole body is just pulsating. Like if I try to keep still I just feel the pulsating, I feel it so strongly, and get jittery or even have muscle spasms at times (usually if I get anxious with it lol)... and the most annoying though is when my skin feels like it’s moving, like there are bugs when there really aren’t and stuff like that... sorry if that’s awkward but I figure someone reading this might relate 🤷🏼♀️ Anyway byeee 😊
Melissa i have energy discharges like in my chest and it’s soo weird
I would get really into ideas that I had, such as going to school for psychiatry in switzerland, living in japan and teaching english, and starting my own shoe company. After about two weeks, these ideas that I had become obsessed with just faded away. This constant cycle of getting obsessed with an idea and then brushing it off was a huge sign of bipolar ii that went unnoticed for years in my case.
Thanks for sharing that Phee. Do you experience those "big ideas"? Hannah
Wow, I relate to you on this Phee. I've had so many ideas that I would be so focused on then the next week or even the next day I'll forget about it or lack of motivation. The depression comes in and it hinders me in accomplishing anything. Thank you for sharing your story. Did you find any ways that work for you?
Oh yes , I can relate to that 100% percent ! I become extremely ambitious and creative only to constantly let myself down by not following through 😒. I get so excited about new ideas and new goals that l simply cannot sleep at 🌙 night . I have always struggled with overactive thinking especially at bed time and it seems like the only time that l really sleep is when l crash into depression 😒..(l have bipolar 1) . Oh yeah and l am also very easily moved to tears by feeling other people's pain !
Phee This is me exactly! Accept I was diagnosed with severe ADHD and anxiety
late to the thread but i’d still like to comment to the void. This was me 100% before i got diagnosed. idk about y’all but id do the same with people. i’d get a almost obsessed with them even in platonic ways and then a couple weeks later i would switch up and lose all interest.
I have this uncanny ability to meet someone and know their life story and deepest fears in an hour, but I can't even talk to my closest friends about my emotions because they're so intense and scary. I think the biggest thing they never tell you how to handle is the sense of shame or guilt you get when your swings start to effect the people you love. When your thoughts are so horrid and terrifying that you think you'll be committed if you voice them, even though they're on a looping fast track in the back of your brain every day. The crushing misery when you figure out that some people cannot or aren't willing to "deal with" or "handle" your illness. And since bipolar 2 has so many more depressive elements, this can be debilitating.
Hi Nicholas. I have experienced everything you are talking about. Without writing a book here, I want to mention a few things that have helped me. You can't expect people without bipolar disorder to completely understand where you are coming from. It's impossible. So being completely open with most people is out of the question. I've found a NAMI or Depression Bipolar Support Alliance support group very helpful for that. You can go to their websites and find a support group near you. They are in most mid-to large cities in the U.S.
As for guilt, it is tough to deal with. www.healthyplace.com/living-with-bipolar-blog/the-guilt-of-bipolar - I try not to beat myself up over it and attribute it to the condition and circumstances I find myself in. I also know that voicing my dark thoughts to most anybody is more than they can handle. That's where having a good therapist comes in handy. My therapist knows those thoughts are a part of bipolar disorder and also can recognize if they are "more than just thoughts" but could lead to some sort of hurtful or life-threatening action.
One last thing, everyone has their limits. You can't fault them or yourself for that. It's important to be respectful of that, just as you would want that from them. Thanks for sharing your experience, Nicholas. Hannah
i feel the same way.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, it is an uphill battle to say the least
“the sense of shame or guilt you get when your swings start to effect the people you love”. You just put into words what I’ve been feeling for the past few years without evening knowing I had Bipolar disorder. Turns out my moms dad was bipolar. knowing all of this, seeing other people actually feel the same way & knowing I’m not alone really helped me feel okay about when I get down. Thank you.
@@Alvytokillstress hey, I hope your recovery journey goes well. Please never forget that though your circumstances are unique, symptoms can be universal, and you're never truly alone ❤️
yep, i was always extremely emotional as a child. usually pretty withdrawn and in my own world when my outgoing self had been rejected. as i aged the emotional episodes didnt go away. they literally intensified. im such an empath. even songs and nature can bring me to tears of joy. i like, have so much feeling. i usually say im just passionate.
I like that, Rusty. How do people respond when you say, "I'm passionate."? Hannah
i think i typically get silence. maybe the person is agreeing with the idea. . however i have had some people just laugh...
Rusty McGee Yes, I can really relate! I often wonder how the vast majority of people cannot see or feel what I see and feel. It's so extreme for me.
Rusty McGee Oh, and family name is Gee, which was derived from McGee, and used by my ancestors to avoid Scots-Irish persecution.
Rusty McGee meeeee tooooo
I feel empathy like no other. I always thought it was a gift!
It is if you're spirutual - empathy is Clairsentience
Sometimes it's a curse. A kind of feeling that part of us is eaten away every time empathy is shown to someone.
It’s also really hard to explain how our empathy works as people with Bipolar 2, even to other people that regularly feel empathy. I think the hardest part, personally, is absorbing other’s shames and regrets. I can meet someone and know exactly why they are the way they are. One conversation and I’ll know if they’re genuine or not, if they have trauma they haven’t dealt with (sometimes I’ll even get an inclination of what events have happened) and also. If someone is in a bad mood I will take it so personal for no reason other than I’m feeling their anger (I don’t often feel my own anger. I’m a lot more on the depressive side)
@@jojophillips5620 everything you just said resonates with me. I'm am the exact same way! Bi polar is a gift in many ways
Josh Murray I’m glad you know what I’m sayin :) it is a gift for sure.
My empathy causes physical discomfort! The irony is, however, that I fight it with apathy. It's as if I feel SO much that I choose not to feel any more! It's a conscious choice!
Does that apathy affect your relationships or other parts of your life? Thank you. Hannah
Becky Schmidt Oh my god! I thought I was the only one who did that. I was noticed in a pain clinic for back pain by a Psychologist. I didn’t even realise I had switched it all off until I started turning my feelings back on. I “people” all the time, naturally and it does become to much.
After feeling too many things too intensely....I need to shut down the emotions for a time....I need a break
Becky Schmidt Try to balance this out my love. I have the same issue now. An I think its due to how society works right now. People are becoming numb
Stephanie Kluke
Is that a sign of bipolar?
I always had so much empathy, it's almost debilitating when I was told I had BP 2, I didn't think my empathy was related, but I'm glad I'm not the only one
Hi! You are definitely not the only one who deals with extreme empathy. I suggest people express these extreme emotions through journaling. Definitely know that you are not alone! Thank you for sharing! -Hannah
I think a lot of us that have empathy at such extreme level often get told that we're too emotional. It's alienating to feel everything so hard and people just think you're overreacting. I didn't know this was a symptom other people had and I feel so validated.
I was overly dramatic, overly sensitive (toughen up), overly well spoken, I couldn't handle my allowence (spent it in an eye blinc), I got over things too easily, change moods in an eye blinc (happy face/sad face), I never finished what I started, and as a teenager and adolescent, I changed boyfriends faster then my underwear (I was told so literally, but that wasn't the case and broke my heart every time), changes I chose to make were always drastic, I couldn't take any critisism, being defensive. When I look back, it's so obvious. But they were dismissed as character flaws, and some were applauded. Overall, I felt turned down for it, and as a result, I always felt bad about myself, always doubting my ability to think for myself, always pleasing, looking to see if I did allright, always feeling guilty . I just recently discover the possibility of bipolar 2, at 48 yo, after being treated only for the depression for 15 years. No one EVER thought of this possibility, and I've seen my share of therapists and doctors. It blows my mind to see all the dots connecting.
I feel all of this I’m 46 only ever been diagnosed with depression and given SSRI but recently mood stabilisers
I feel the pain of animals so deeply it hurts so much
Exactly! So much so that it is impossible to describe to a person who doesn't. Thank you for voicing it.
This...🙏
Exactly! And this is what's really hard to explain to people who see me as being "too sensitive" or "too emotional"
If animals could speak, mankind would weep 😣
I hope you buy cruelty free products and try and reduce your intake of animal products including foods.
Yes dahhling. You're explaining my life.
Very deep, empathic, I literally feel I have psychic abilities. I can feel people on another level. Their emotions etc. I have so much insight that others seem to overlook. I have a way of just knowing without you saying anything, super sensitive to people's emotions. Also Negitive/Toxic people are beyond overwhelming to me. I try to avoid these types of people.
However I thrive around positive people as I am probably feeling all that good energy.
I feel so pure hearted, openminded and compassionate. I'm generally a very deep, loving, positive and understanding person. I am super sensitive and emotional at times as well.
I tend to have a higher sense of thinking. While others including "family memebers" lack insight, argue and fight over foolish things. It breaks my heart. I am aware life is so short and Love & God is everything 🙏💕
When I'm getting manic my first sensation is "pressure". It's not a social pressure or anything like that but a literally sensation that something is pressing down on every inch of me.
I think this is a good description for me. I tend to bounce around task to task or idea to idea and always feeling like i should be doing more.
Holy crap, that's how I feel the last two days. I just right now informed myself about bipolar disorder. Alot of matches.
O...M... G...!! I'm 66yo... diagnosed as Type 2 only 2 yrs ago, but this is the first time I have heard anyone link empathy to type 2! I've always been a strong empath as long as I can remember, but in my adult years simply thought my strong empath traits were causing my depression or 'happiness' as I was linking into those moods around me. Since diagnosed as type 2 my whole life - for the first time - started to make sense (mood swings etc), but I still considered being a strong empath as 'something else', and not related to type 2... but you have just helped me fit that last piece of the jigsaw into place!! When you started to talk about being an empath I lost it... bubbling like a 66 year old baby! FINALLY... it all makes sense to me. Thank you gal... you have given me such an amazing gift... NOW I can understand. Thank you thank you! Stay strong young lady, and know that there is at least 1 person's life you have changed... MINE! Much peace, love and strength to you from this old hippy dude x
I think I've just been in a hypomanic state over the last 2 weeks... everything was so easy and I could suddenly accomplish tasks within a few days that had before been on my list for months ... I have met friends that I had not met for a long time...
I knew that this would change and I remember me thinking "I know this won't last, but I don't want to switch to depression ". That was two days ago.
And bang... yesterday I woke up with a miserable feeling, started to cry over some sad thoughts triggered by a postcard on my kitchen table (that had been there for quite a while without causing these thoughts before). I was able to go to work, but I have felt down and have cried several times since yesterday. I've developed fears again, for example that someone in my family might suddenly become ill and die...
My brain knows that this is all ridiculous and there is no real reason for feeling so bad, but I have no possibility to change it by myself.
I think the worst part is the feeling of helplessness in the face of these emotional changes...
I was diagnosed with bp 2 and I've always doubted it. I would think maybe I'm just making this up, maybe this is just normal and that I'm overreacting, and then I came across this video and found your comment. I relate to you so much and it kinda reassures me that what I'm experiencing is real and that I'm not alone. Thank you.
one of my biggest symptoms is that i can think up to 3 things at once. plus i always felt like i was never really present and i was just narrating everything around me, it calmed down once i started meds, it has really allowed me to be more present in my surroundings.
How is things going now?
I started crying when I watched this, because this resonates with me so much. When you mentioned empathy, I gasped. It's almost like you see yourself in the other's body. Everything is so vivid. And it's torturous. After I watched Earthlings I became severely depressed, and those images kept popping into my head. Also, I had a myriad of imaginary friends when I was a kid. I never believed they were real, it was just the way I liked to play. All by myself.
I often enjoy the hypomania, it makes me feel very exited and happy, and giddy, and I talk so much it´s crazy, but it feels like I crash from it a few days later, and very depressed. for example, two days ago i was going crazy and pacing around, singing, laughing, talking, and today I feel like happiness doesn´t exist, and I feel motivated to do nothing even though everything that happened today was positive.
Everyone is different which makes the diagnosis so hard for the psychologists
DBT therapy is helping me cope with feeling like Im bare wires without insulation....especially ways to distract from the intensity of what I feel until the intensity decreases enough for me to find a way to cope. Valproate helps me some . I have never not been like I am. My first recollections are terrible pain from constant pain of stomach cramps to point of passing out....causing my parents huge problems....lasted 3 years and sometimes now...IBS...horrible major depression and then days of "fast functioning" and serving everyone around me... teachers went to my parents about me not being present...always on the verge of tears in school....relationship issues just made me so exhausted it was easier to not have any..everyone sucks my energy because I feel too much and cannot do the boundary thing.....I have been hospitalized, which only made this harder to deal with and robbed self-confidence....My brother was bipolar 1....Im bipoar 2 and I have borderline personality ....generally with borderline one has little empathy....mine is off the wall because as soon as I think about what someone is going through I imagine what they feel like and just that causes these raw unprotected neuro chemical "anomalies" to surge with rocket ship force and I am barely able to stay normal appearing on the outside long enough to get somewhere and bawl my head off. As I have worked at this over the years, I have found that focusing this crazy energy into love for other folks in a weird way helps me stay calmer and many times feel deep peace. I am not my just my feelings. I have had to learn to use some cognitive strategies to trick my brain into bypassing neuro triggers. I have struggled with my relationship with God because He wont heal my brain. HOWEVER there have been days when I have really connected in prayer and was gifted a whole day with feeling nothing but HIS peace. Its like He gives me the gift of a day off from this (few times in my life) just to let me know that my mental illness is what He wants me to struggle and learn from in this life. I have an tested IQ of 152, but just could not self regulate on days when depression....so i dropped out academics with a 4.0 GPA...I get fired from jobs a lot because I am so changable and it makes others uncomfortable....I work at a jobs where I am not around others....part of this is borderline and part of this is bipoar 2....I really recomend a really good assessment team to be sure you arent borderline....or also borderline....
"It's part of being a teenager" "It's just the stress of studying". . .I heard that so much I started believing it until I hit rock bottom and couldn't convince myself that it was just me being 'dramatic'. Still took another 1.5 years before I could go see a psychologist and even then it was STILL coz everyone thought thought I was being over-dramatic; coz, you know, having a giant meltdown is a normal thing that all 24-year-olds do 🙄
I get 'stuck' in my thoughts a lot. The first time I remember totally zoning out was in the 1st grade (I was 6). It still happens every now and then which is why I always have music or a video playing around me (especially when I'm stressed) so it kind of keeps me in the moment and I don't get too distant.
Thanks for sharing that. It's really hard because people don't know any better. I don't think most parents, teachers, friends are malicious. They're just attributing things to what seems normal to them. To me, that's why teaching mental health in the education system is so important. Hannah
RoqueSox Uncut ikr
I had a terribly hard time sleeping as a kid. Like I can just remember laying in bed, staring at the clock, and getting so anxious because I wasn’t sleeping. Sometimes I would bring my parents into my breakdowns (they tried their best but at the time no one really knew much about sleep).
Hi Kendra. Now that you're older, is your sleep still affected by having bipolar disorder? Hannah
Hi Hannah,
It’s a lot better now that I’m medicated. I never really grew out of it. It can still be pretty bad if I’m excited for something or I had a great night and can’t wind down.
Sooo relatable. I went through a severe insomnia around 6th grade which was absolutely awful considering most kids that age have no trouble sleeping. Thankfully it’s never been as bad since but I have never had normal sleeping patterns, either too much or not enough.
I hate rejection, I love people for a week hate them next week. Im withdrawn and I feel every human emotion possible and can relate to anyone who has the ability to express their deepest with me. I get super excited and feel like im on top of my goals like I can accomplish anything then boom I crash for a few days or a day then the cycle starts again. I just started treatment for Adhd and Im seeing a tberapist and my primary care. Im gonna mention to my primary that I think well I know I need a mood stabalizer Been struggling all my life with this and now is the time for acceptance. I always felt sumb as hell because some things I just dont get. Failing at normal is what I call but now Im gonna do whatever it takes to get stable, be successful, and live a meaningful life. I cant thank you enough for making me more comfortable in my own skin. You are a brave soul.
Hi Steven. Welcome to our community. I hope you subscribe to our channel. It's a good thing to talk to your doctor about your medications and what's happening with your symptoms. I write them down on paper and bring it with me to my visit. That way, I don't forget to mention anything. Also, treating bipolar disorder is complicated enough. Throw ADHD or another mental health condition on top, and it's complex. I'm mentioning that because sometimes a primary care doctor isn't the right person. A psychiatrist is a specialist in dealing with psychiatric medications and may be better able to help you.
As for feeling "dumb," I know what you mean and I think this is a pretty common experience for those of us with a mental health condition and/or learning disability --- especially before we are diagnosed and come to understand what's been going on. Once I knew that my brain (i.e. me) wasn't "stupid" and that I faced learning challenges, it really helped my self-esteem and gave me a pathway to being successful. It takes time and persistence, so in the interim, be gentle with yourself. Thanks, Hannah
HealthyPlace Mental Health thanks for the insight, I appreciate your persistance with educating those of us who are still trying to figure this thing out. I will honestly communicate more with my doctor. I'm beginning to let go of the shame and accepting myself and this condition. I don't have to beat myself down anymore for this. I can't thank you enough Hannah you inspire me 👊
Steven Arthur that sounds like borderline personality disorder not bipolar.
Steven Arthur also sounds bipolar cuz I’m the same
@@voiceovers7080 Im pretty sure I have both
I've never heard somebody talk about this aspect of it and it's so cathartic to hear that I'm not the only one
I just started the process of finding a psychiatrist to try and get a diagnosis so hopefully that can help finally bring some clarity about why I struggle so much with these things
I am 32 its my first day of taking treatment after yeaaaars of a crazy life, pray for me.
Same here I am 33 I had a crazy life I need Quiet life Now I went to doctor after a manic episode they said first I hace schizofrenia but Now they said I am just bipolar how are you?
@@meryjes.9828are u married yet?
R u married yet?
I think my unnoticed symptoms as a child would be the deep thinking , as a child, when I felt like there were so many injustices in the world, that adults didn’t always act the way the should act, like adults, and I think that stubbornness as well as the fear that then goes with it, goes on to create anxiety which made me feel like the world was not a safe place. Then in my teen years the anxiety and constant depressive thoughts led me to risky behaviour which then still didn’t flag up to myself or anyone around me. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and given medication that I thought worked well at the time, It’s only now that I’m older and my husband has helped me see that I have severe up and down moods, and paranoid thoughts, and the anxiety meds just made me worse. Very high stress has definitely contributed to my breakdown. And now I’m just waiting, for my appointment at the end of the month, some days I want to talk, about myself and the past, some days all I want to do is stay quiet, because pretty much everything is confusing and the paranoia is too much to talk about xx
Thanks for sharing that Tiger Trakz Gaming. It's been said that it takes an average of 7 years for a person with bipolar disorder to receive the correct diagnosis. Part of it is due to a misreporting or incomplete reporting of symptoms to the doctor by the patient. The second is attribution of symptoms to another mental health condition by the doctor. It's not uncommon for bipolar disorder to be misdiagnosed as depression, anxiety, or ADHD. Many times, once the person is put on an antidepressant or a stimulant and flips into a manic episode, then the doctor realizes the person has bipolar disorder.
I'm glad you're seeing the doctor. I hope you start to feel at least a bit better soon. Hannah
Tiger Trakz Gaming Wow! So similar to me.
This is bittersweet because I haven't found someone that I relate to like this, ever. It's bittersweet because I feel less lonely after reading this but I also know how much of a struggle it can be to live like this and I don't wish it on anyone. I am also waiting for my appointment.
I relate to this so much. I start my medication tonight and though I’m excited I’m really nervous about what the future holds
I remember a Tracy Chapman song bringing me to tears when I was about 8 or 9. My older sister just thought I was being pathetic lol. Used to lye awake a lot, thinking weird thoughts. Always have had very vivid, exhausting dreams and have bored my friends retelling every detail. I decided to do a study on suicide for English class in year 11. Nobody even asked if I was ok. Got diagnosed at 31 after a breakdown. Blessed to have wonderful friends, family and a faith. By God's grace I'm still here!
Welcome Rory. Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you're still around to share this part of your story. 20 years ago, people were just starting to talk about mental health online. So it wouldn't surprise me that no one even thought to ask you or your parents about your mental health at 11. Fortunately, today, there's more awareness around that. Do you still have the vivid dreams today? Hannah
Thanks Hannah. Actually I still do have very vivid and dark dreams. Sorry I meant when I was in Grade 11, not 11 years old :-)
Hi there, I've just recently started opening up to people about my Bipolar Type II Disorder and also just started a Vlog about it. It's great to see other people being open and honest about their own conditions. It really makes me feel like I'm not alone in this.
This is the first time someone has expressed exactly how I felt as a child and even now. I have very recently been diagnosed and have always felt like I was just screwed up. It’s such a relief to know it’s ok. Thank you. You will never know how much this has helped me.
Hi Linda. I'm glad you found us and I hope you subscribe to our channel and join our community here. bit.ly/2LhFmsa Welcome, Hannah
I wish someone would have seen I had bi polar disorder when I was young. I had always thought my life was the way it was because i was poor and how my parents lived. It was far from the truth. Now at 51 , after quitting drinking, which I started early(15 or so) to deal with my emotional train wreck, now I find out what the problem was. What a smack in the teeth. I had always had an issues with empathy that other kids tormented me with. I remember beating the hell out of a few kids because I just couldn't take it anymore...then I was the weird kid no one talked to. Its been a few weeks, doing therapy, meds, but I am not dealing well with the train wreck my life has been just to find this out. To find out others could have helped me. Dont ignore people, dont let them wreck their lives at a young age because no one wants to understand what is going on with them.
You doing better now?
Empathy and be so deeply involved in it.
Loss in my own mind by staring onto nothing for hours, in travel or in home or while chopping onion or while watching videos. You just said it girl.
The symptoms you talked about in this video blew me away. I never knew of others who did the whole escape into the mind thing as you did with the basketball. I would do that by swinging in my backyard for hours to the point of having bruises from the seat. I also feel things to a degree that it seems like a gift of clairvoyance. It's so hard to explain that to people, that you absorb things like a sponge and how you can feel things for and from people so clearly and intense like you almost go inside them. Thank you for making this video
Ooof the empathy is so real. I avoid watching stressful or negative shows bc I feel my fight or flight trying to go off alongside the charecters in the show. Unfortunately my empathy also excuses other people’s shorty behavior sometimes
Wow. I have always been very empathetic and highly emotional. You sounds just like me. I won't even watch a sad movie or read a sad book because I can't come out of that sadness. Very interesting.
Thank you for the light shed onto the ways people might experience the sensitivity that comes with this. Hopefully it helps people accept support and love in their lives.
Thank you for being so open about your experiences. I'm finding your videos very helpful.
Thankyou! Its been a comfort to hear someone say stuff i relate too
I have never thought ever to include my intense empathy with my bipolar diagnoses. Anger and depression and excitement sure but sometimes my empathy has impacted my life, taking in stray animals or crying over everything throwing myself into a sadness that would ruin my day or week. No matter what else was going on so I thank you so much for sharing and posting!
Hi Jane. If you'll go to my playlist, you'll see a video on "Extreme Empathy and Bipolar Disorder". There are a lot of comments there from people who have extreme empathy. I'll be doing a RUclips Live on the HealthyPlace channel Wed. night at 7p ET / 6 CT. I hope you'll come. Thanks, Hannah
It's a heck of a ride when I'm on a high but that crash is nasty feeling worthlessness & like you don't belong & people don't understand. Rejection is the hardest thing to swallow. Rather you worked up the courage to finally ask her out & she turned you down. You went for an interview & they chose somebody else over you or never called you back. It's rougher being Bipolar dealing with this.
1:20 OMG, I know this so well... but I've never heard anybody talk about this phenomenon... thank you!
Good examples of things that are so hard to portray to people who don't have this disorder, thank you for these videos.
I definitely relate to the empathy. It’s so painful. I can’t read the news because it will affect me for weeks.
I just got diagnosed and didn’t really see myself necessarily the same as some information leads but this was very relatable and helpful and it reminded my of how different everyone’s experiences are thank you
Thank you so much for sharing bipolar information and also your experiences. Your videos are very helpful. I'm still new to this bipolar diagnosis idea. So it is very comforting to know that there are other people out there that are experiencing similar things as I do and have. Thank you again for your videos.
Hello JA Rose. Welcome to our community. I hope you subscribe and join us. Thank you for your kind words and I'm glad my videos help you. So many people with bipolar disorder feel alone and isolated. I want you to know that there are thousands and thousands of people out there with bipolar who are quite likely experiencing things that are similar to what you're dealing with. You are not alone! Thanks, Hannah
I have never been diagnosed with bipolar but two of my family members have it and my mom even displays many of the signs of bipolar and has numerous mental health conditions as well as myself. This morning I realized who goes outside at 6am before the sun is up, 30 degree weather, raining, and yet it felt so inspiring to clean outside and have this energy that I could just keep going. I have always had these heavy emotions, and I experience the highs and lows, and I have been told that I just need to keep working on my overthinking. I disassociate 80% of the time, and realizing when I was in treatment at Rosewood that the most stable I have been was when I was on mood stabilizers. Thank you for sharing I love your videos , gives me solace in my crazy mind.
Thank you for the videos. I have a friend with Bi-Polar and always looking to understand.
BP sucks... A lot. But I just try to go with the flow of my emotions now a days whereas when I was younger I would always try to fight the negative emotions/thoughts or hide them. I think once you find acceptance for yourself and the fact that this illness is not going away, there is a feeling of responsibility that manifests in yourself. It’s peaceful. Yeah, my life will never be normal but this is my life and while I can’t control my emotions, I can control how I react to my emotions. For example: “wow I feel great right now. That’s awesome, enjoy it.” Or “damn I feel so sad and lonely. Oh well, I’ll feel good soon enough, give it a couple days”
That's a great attitude, Tony. I don't think anyone would truthfully say that they're glad they have bipolar disorder. But it is what it is and we have to live with it the best we can. Thanks, Hannah
Hannah, your story sounds similar to what I've experienced. Thank you. It feels uplifting to listen to someone Relatable with bipolar disorder. As a boy, I would feel overwhelmed by emotions. I felt these 'superpowers'. The kids at school would bully me because of my eccentric behavior. My parents had trouble understanding I spent three whole days awake. When I was 17, I felt people, especially girls, were afraid of me because I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and it made me so depressed in high school. Sorry for the long rant. Thank you for sharing this video though. Means a lot
Thank you for the channel. It takes so long to figure out! Its a blessing and a curse simoteniasly. I wish you the best 👌
I have been diagnosed with both autism AND bipolar 2 so I experience emotions that are much much stronger than other people experience them. I don't know if I have bipolar but all I know is that I either really want to live (like there's this electricity running through me and I'm really confident) or I really want to die (emotional pain, crying, not wanting to do much) with not much in between. This can't be a normal experience that everyone goes through.
I have had some periods of feeling relatively normal but that's probably more to do with the lithium. But it's useful having the autism with the bipolar because even though I get impulsive and delusional sometimes, the autism makes you more logical than most people so it allows me to step back and say "I feel like I want to do this/I feel like this is happening, but is it really logical?" and then not do it, which makes things a lot easier.
i'm also autistic and have bipolar II and i agree! the autism really does help us make more rational decisions and not act out as much (if you are on the calmer side of the spectrum, at least?). my hypomania usually looks like high levels of narcissism and confidence, as well as impulsive thinking and actions, but my depression really takes everything out of me. of course on top of autism and bipolar II, i also have ADD and GAD, so that mix can be a bit deadly at times. taking adderall on top of Abilify is a strange combo, since the Abilify is a mood stabilizer and really helps me with my depression, but the adderall makes me chronically bored and empty, so lately i've been a lot like the dead walking haha
its cool to see another person like me though! sorry for oversharing and going off topic i was a bit late taking my meds this morning
@@mothbunni I'm the same when hypomanic, completely narcissistic.
If you really want to improve your life, I recommend The 48 Laws Of Power (if you filter out the parts where you manipulate people). It's a book that you take with a grain of salt, but it's overall really helping me to have power over your own life and be more social.
Get the concise version though, because otherwise it's really long.
@@mothbunni I also recommend the paleo diet, which is outlined in a book called The Primal Blueprint. It's great for general health and having more energy.
Thank you! I recognize myself in this, but no doctor ever told me it was part of bipolar 2. So just thank you!
Hi Claudia. Welcome to our channel. I hope you subscribe and join us. bit.ly/2LhFmsa Which symptoms did you experience that you can now attribute to bipolar disorder? Thanks, Hannah
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
I have toxic empathy and feeling other's pain.
It's made me suicidal most of my life.
I have 2 psychiatrists who are resisting bi2 diagnosis while my recent hospital psychiatrist says I have it. This video on lesser understood symptoms is great!
Love your videos, always so informative and I always learn something new! I had no idea that extreme emotional empathy was in any way related to bipolar disorder. This explains so much going as far back to my childhood. I will have to read up some more on this subject!
Thanks Kristy. I'd be interested to know what role extreme empathy played in your life? Hannah
I relate to this a ton, and going through diagnosis now. My empathy is so off the charts I have had a hard time distinguishing my emotions from other people sometimes, and learned to withdrawal just to hear my own feelings again and recharge. And I would get lost in my head and draw for hours. I preferred to be alone most of the time. I never saw myself as hyper per se but just super enthusiastic and optimistic, always pep talking friends and standing up for them. But sometimes taking things too far and weirding people out, or making some bad decisions.
I’m glad I saw your video!I can relate with extreme empathy.It is somehow destructive.I was diagnosed with BP II two years ago,25,I had my breakdown,committed suicide.im still studying everything about this illness.Thank you for sharing.At least this gave me some answers.God bless you!
Thank you for this video! It along with the comments from everyone, have made me feel much better and confident in my diagnosis. I'm very late to this video, but had to comment. Thanks everyone!
Lightbulb!! Thank you for bringing these to light. I had never connected my painful empathy (that very often shuts me down because I am so sad for the "world) with bipolar. Mine was particularly hard to pinpoint partly because of the fact that I am an actress and singer. Until about 5 years ago, I was singing in a band and that kinda gave me an emotional fix. If course anything like that is often seen as an outlet. It was that for me as well. It allowed me to exist in somewhat of a fantasy world well. It also masked symptoms, almost like a drug, and it defined me. Soon after my band broke up, I had a breakdown and was hospitalized. I'm also agoraphobic and haven't been able to leave my house. But, one of things that affect me most is just a crushing response to others' pain. This includes national & world events as well. I enjoy your videos. They comfort me and give me some coping ideas. RUclips, in general, has been a wonderful tool for me!
Hello Missi Gee and welcome to our community. Thank you for sharing part of your story. I find it interesting that the band and your career choice was your coping tool and as long as that was going, you managed to continue on. However, once that stopped, you experienced a bipolar breakdown. That kind of scenario is not unusual. As for being empathic, I was just thinking that I often hear about people with that ability to acutely feel other people's pain. I haven't heard anyone express whether they feel other people's happiness or joy. What about you? Thanks, Hannah
Hannah, it meant the world you took the time to respond! Thanks for that! That is an interesting question. I just had an incident a few minutes ago with my 4 yr old grandson. Keeping in mind that I realize kids often have responses that leave us feeling kinda of flat, I have him some nice, fluffy Christmas PJs I thought he'd go mad for. I thought he'd think it was cool to receive them so he could wear them on the holiday. (He is a child who actually loves clothes!) He first just walked away. Then I asked if he liked them. He said, "uh-huh," and walked out of the room. I was so crushed. But, yes, it makes me realize that I do empathize about good things. When the kids are happy or I have something they go wild for, I feel that over the moon feeling as well.
Thank you for sharing this!! I don't want to say that I'm glad someone has bipolar disorder; however, it feels so good to know someone can actually feel real pain for others. I have always been that way! I've always wondered why I felt different from everyone else... School was a nightmare because I felt like everyone was watching me. I was picked on for a few years of school, grades were horrible because I never studied or really tried to do good. But as far as empathy, I can't stand it if anyone's feelings are hurt...I can't stand it when someone is sick ( animals also). Oh..one more thing.. yeah I had all kinds of issues during school and just growing up. I didn't find out I was bipolar until I was 42. That was 7 years ago and the medication helps a lot; but it's still a constant ride... Thank you again! God Bless you!
Hello Dawn. I completely understand. It is comforting to know there are others like you out in the world. That you are not the only one in some weird twilight zone. What I've come to discover is that there is a wide spectrum of "normal". There are millions and millions of people living with a mental illness. So it's not "abnormal" to have one. You mentioned not finding out that you had bipolar disorder until you were 42 years old. What prompted you to get a diagnosis? Thanks, Hannah
I really love your videos. As a fellow sufferer, I can relate to so much you say. Keep up the good work spreading information.
Thank you, Jon-Paul. And I'm glad you're part of our community. Did you have bipolar symptoms that went unnoticed for a long time? Hannah
HealthyPlace Mental Health yes, I did have symptoms for many years before being diagnosed.
i was the same way as a kid i would play alone for hours creating a world inside my head. but i was'nt lonely. i had a hard time in life socially. i turned to drugs, alcohol and sex as revenge for people expecting me to be something i was not. i am in my 50's now and still feel that way only mellower. i don't smoke, drink or do street drugs, if i did now I would be a stiff. bipolar people are colorful people with great stories to tell i bet.
Thanks for sharing that part of your journey, Kathy. To me, that's maybe the hardest part of having bipolar disorder -- people not understanding or wanting to try and understand and showing a complete lack of compassion. Hannah
i never thought about the empathy factor. great observation.
0:30 - Intense Mood Swings
0:50 - Feeling deep EMPATHY
1:30 - Never known a Middle
Thank-you. Comments on empathy overdrive are very helpful.
Hi Laurie. What's your experience with that? Thanks, Hannah
Like your videos because there helping me & so does music too. Teaching guitar part time beginning next month will help too. Music is a part of my life that brings me peace along with medication & my therapist.
I suffered with bipolar for years and literally everyone in my life was like, “it’s just hormones”, “you’re just stressed”, “you’re not righteous enough and you need to be closer to God.” I ignored it for years, so many years and until one day it was like I snapped and I couldn’t hide it anymore and everyone was like, “whoa, what’s wrong with you.” Finally got diagnosed bipolar 2 and it feels like a relief knowing that this was real and not just “me being a girl.”
Ohhhh, Hannah...You are my rock and you rock!
YOU AND I are like LITERALLY PERSONALITY TWINS - in so many ways. Not in a creepy way, I'd be happy to share who I am with you, just on a different platform. :-). The things that you say, resonate so deeply with me. You seem to have a way of conveying what I HAVE LIVED WITH AND FELT for 26+ years - it just blows my mind.
I feel so grateful to have stumbled upon your brilliant videos. I also love them because they are short, to the point and focused!! Otherwise...I find I lose the plot in so many other LONG videos.
Even my nearest and dearest don't REALLY get me, or if they do, THEY ARE TERRIFIED to reach out to me to even say hi or get together anymore. It's so sad. YOU would totally "GET ME"...especially the explanation of HOW DEEPLY WE FEEL THINGS AND THE ZILLION THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT AND...let's not forget the SENSITIVITY of thought, and how we interpret things that are said to us!!! I so wish that I could meet up with you or communicate via another social media elsewhere somehow?
Thanks again for taking the time to make these videos and share yourself...
I KNOW I AM NOT ALONE...
and somehow feel comforted in knowing that it's not just ME that FEELS SO DEEPLY.
xo
Hi Judith! You are definitely not alone, and I really appreciate you opening up. The overthinking, and extreme emotions are part of our daily lives. It gives us joy and pain at the same time. I am so happy we can relate to one another. Thank you for sharing! -Hannah
I’ve never related to anything more in my life, so glad I found you
As a child I had trouble with interacting with others. I was not liked really at all. I learned to be a loner because when I tried so hard to get others to like me, It blew up in my face. Trust is a fragile shattered broken thing to me. The ones I loved the most, they turned on me and betrayed me. And My surroundings outdoors isn't all that welcoming. I learned how to do a lot of creative things like woodworking, music, songwriting, music recording, art,painting, drawing, cooking, etc to fill up the fact that I am alone.
I have a girlfriend, but I really don't get all of the true love I desperately need and want. I am as about as lawbiding as I can be, and I do have love within me that gets abused and mistreated by this world. After 48 years I am trying to finally learn to love myself honestly. I am disconnected from the world's wars, and messed up scenes.
I am just me.
I can relate
It's me again. Really, before I expect others to love and accept me,I first have to love and accept myself. I made the mistake of thinking it was the other person's fault. It wasn't. It was mine. I accepted the negative labels haters dumped on me, I just the same could have shaken it off and kept it moving. I didn't know or understand that then,but I do now. Now that I'm pass that point, now I have to put back together the pieces of me and learn after 48 years to truly and honestly love myself for real ❤. The most important person in this life that I should want love from is me. GOD loves me, I'm really truly a blessed person. I thank you for caring, if you do, and may God bless you. Bye.
Thanks for sharing! I have found this very helpful, all of what you said rings true with me too .
I have bipolar PTSD and severe anxiety from trauma after trauma and still have empathy. That means you're an empath. I can sense things other people can't. It's a gift if you know how to use it. Also I can relate but don't let the empathy eat you up use the gift. I've avoided a lot of problems by using my 6th sense. Channel it. It'll help you. But I do get tired of people getting mad because I talk a lot. It is what it is. So I avoid people and their complaints. Being mostly manic ruined my chances in the music business because I got on everybody's nerves. But that's Nashville too. Have a good day!!
This made me feel beyond validation! I have always had such a hard problem with empathy especially from a young young age and I didn’t ever hear anyone mention it coupled with bipolar 2 disorder but after being diagnosed I can tell u I definitely relate with that symptom. it becomes so hard to even watch certain types of content or to confront someone whose wronged you because u can feel their emotions so heavily! (I have a video/poem on my channel about my bipolar 2 experience btw! I’m interested in uploading on similar topics as well)
My husband is diagnosed bipolar but in denial. When he's hypomanic he has very little empathy
It can actually go either way
Yes I 've seen this too. She thinks she's all that and couldn't care less about anyone else.
Empathy is huge. I almost can't stand it. I hate the emotional parts cause it sometimes gets to the point of making me sick.
100% agree on the empathy part. Its almost crippling at times
Living with bipolar 2 but looking back... Something I used to do was sneak out of my room in middle and early high-school and do 3 mile hikes in the woods at night up the mountain. Then run as fast as I could all the way back down the hill running blind into the night. I would fall and hurt myself or run into things but it's the only way I could clear my mind and get a rush in the darkness. Eventually that lead to years of drug and alcohol abuse and I wasn't diagnosed till after I had been sober for about 3 years. I'm still getting on the right cocktail of medication and forcing myself to go to speech therapy but it is a daily struggle.
Omg, the empathy things is so true.
UGH the empathy thing. I always want to help everyone especially when I'm manic, like I have all the power and energy to do so.
i can remember coming home from elementary school and just crying for hours. i would make up some lie to tell my mom, like the kids were teasing me or bullying me or something, just for the excuse to break down. it felt very much like every part of me was on edge. after a day at school i felt completely emotionally overloaded. i actually diagnosed myself, but it didn't happen until i was 28. the doctors always just said it was depression but it was so much more complicated than that for me. as of now i still experience more depressive episodes than hypomanic ones (which i wish was different.) my family doesn't understand this AT ALL and my father's a doctor. Just making the decision to keep going every day, and to keep striving for health is a daily battle. i wish more people understood.
Shelby, thank you for sharing that. I get it from both sides. Wanting people to understand, yet for those who are trying, it's difficult to fully comprehend what bipolar disorder (mental illness) is about. I'm sorry your family doesn't understand at all. Maybe it would be helpful to try some family counseling or bring one of your parents (the one who might be most receptive) to a doctor's appointment. That way, they can hear it from the doctor and it may carry more weight with them. Just a thought. Hannah
I had to drop out of college, the side effect of Hypersexuality for bipolar 2 was very present. My type 2 was just severe depression and small mania.
Hi Lucas. And how does hypersexuality affect you now. Thanks, Hannah
I totally get the super empathetic part. I also sob at movies, a sad commercial can even bring a tear. I also always withdraw when things are bad. Friends and family just that I was being distant, but I just didn't want anyone to see me when I fall apart.
Me too. My grandma used to say I hate a kind heart.
I love you and I literally just started watching you today! I'm bipolar 2. Cheers!
at times i have extreme empathy and am sensitive to people and reading them . then other times i have no empathy for anyone and am a hardass even on myself.
Thanks for sharing !
I can relate exactly. I will wake up in the morning and not know which way to go. like I am stuck. I feel people emotions so intense that it's like I take there emotion on in my own body. and I tend to get stuck on things. like I feel lile I have to know everything. i will do endless research on related topics. I get caught up gardening
if I cant get outside I'm looking up plants and I feel so sick like I desperately just need to get to what ever the task is that I am stuck on. I tend to become really irritated. and feels like I live my life on a loop. its exsausting.
Appreciate what your doing. Keep it up
Thank you, Jeromey. Hannah
This video blew my mind, as I took my first dose of Abilify. I was just diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and Wow.
Thank you for this!
Thank you for this vid. I can very much relate to being an empath and feeling unusual depths of emotion.
Thank you so so much for this video
Thanks for being open enough to share your thoughts.
Hi Al Bi. I appreciate the kind words. Did you have any bipolar symptoms that went unnoticed? Hannah
i relate to every single part of this. i feel sick with empathy when anyone in my household feels sick and i can’t focused i can’t eat meat because i think of the animals; and i cry if i see a truck full of pigs go by. as a kid i used to walk around my room in a trance for hours everyday in my own little world as well. i also haven’t had a stable mood in a year, it’s up or down. trying to fix that with a really good doctor, but man this low sucks.
HANNAH, Love your video keep posting
ALso I was bullied as a kid and that feels like its still there, cant forget about it. I think that people somewhat look at me
like hes different meaning, Im fat or walk funny, but thats just a thought in my head that goes back to when I was a child
I have to realize im not fat anymore and that was 30 years ago, but thats easier to say but hard to do
Thank you for sharing all that Alonso. It's amazing how traumatic things that happened in our childhood are still carried with us into adulthood. That's despite the fact that, rationally, we know things are different. Therapy and time can ease the pain, but there's still that underlying hurt that's still there. Hannah
I did a response video, I emailed healthyplace, havent heard back
Wow I feel like your talking about me. I need to get tested for this. Sorry you have to deal with this 💔 Thank you for the info.
Highly Sensitive People and Bipolar overlap
Be careful with that empathy! What u went thru can come back…. Best of luck and be careful stay happy
You nailed it!
This comments section is so relatable
Hannah nails it better than the professionals. I practiced piano so much that I damaged the nerves in my hands. Ugh😢