@@hollieliles1601 My favorite way to refer to the Klingon language is the way that the Klingon trouble maker said it in "Trouble With Tribbles." He referred to it as "Klingonee."
Perhaps he is so low on the list because he manipulated Sean into that position, biding his time a mere ambassador... I see what you did the there... I still don't trust him
Kai Winn should be way, way higher up IMO. The fact that she is so infuriatingly, saccharinely evil is *exactly* what makes her an absolutely incredible character. Her portrayal and writing were top-notch.
Yep, can't mistake a popularity contest with their effective impact on a series. If she didn't make you wanna smack her, then she would've been a poor villain.
@@monkeytime9851 Absolutely, she is written perfectly as a self-entitled zealot who uses her religious position and power purely to serve her own ends and Fletcher plays it with absolute precision. I know Louise Fletcher is probably better known for her role as Nurse Ratched but she will always be Winn to me. Winn is truly despicable and this is why she should be higher
Damar was probably one of the biggest developments. You know they've done a show well when I guy you barely notice, then hate, makes you feel bad when he dies.
Garak & Sisko both saved the Alpha Quadrant (aka the most lives; see In the Pale Moonlight). There's your #1 and #2. Garak saved Worf, Martok, and Bashir in the prison Camp. Garak doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Garak is such an interesting character. He had such good lines. “Never tell the same lie twice” a new take on never cry wolf. Quark was another one. Using rules based on money to outsmart a Vulcan.
The root beer scene is still my favorite. "It's insidious." "Just like the Federation." The, "You know the sad thing? I am a really good tailor," line is also amazing.
DS9 shinned having the best supporting cast. Nothing against the series regulars but they captured lightning in a bottle with some unbelievable characters. No wonder they were always asked to come back
Garak number... I'm good with that. I have seen some talk here in the comments about Morn. He could never be on a list like this. He is a cut above the rest. He is all things to all species. You can't put a number on Morn. That would be like trying catch a dream and putting in to a jar. It can' be done. Because I can safely say, that to know him, was to love him. And to love him, was to know him... Those who knew him, loved him, while those who did not know him, loved too.
Paaahahahaha. I love how Keiko O'Brien (19 episodes) isn't even *on* this list despite the fact that Joseph Sisko (6 eps), Vic Fontaine (7 eps), Vedek Bareil (8 eps), Eddington (9), and Ziyal (9) all are. :-D
More than just the Yoko Ono to Miles' John Lennon, Keiko's character was complicated. At times annoying, yet Keiko actually encouraged her husband's even more complicated relationship with another man - I'd put Keiko somewhere in the middle between best and worst.
great list! I would've put Kai Winn much, much higher, though. A love-to-hate character and ultimately more complex and interesting than Dukat. Also: Louise Fletcher! Come on! 😉 And where's Keiko!?
I actually liked Michael Eddington as a character because I did feel blindsided by his reveal of being a Maquis. One thing I liked about O'Brien was the touch his sleeves always being rolled partway up his arm.
Fun fact! Wardrobe designed his uniform with the sleeves permanently rolled like that because he did it so often. It's also the inspiration for Mariner's sleeves!
Your comment at the end of the video that Garak was the best ally to have on your side - or the greatest enemy, reminded me of the great line near the end of the episode "Second Skin". When Kira is being rescued by Odo, Cisco, and Garak, Kira remarks to the Cardassian leader "Don't worry, he's on our side - I think..." I remember thinking "A classic description of Garak!"
Dax is by far one of, if not THE best female character ever written and portrayed. She is smart but not arrogant, wise but still with her own flaws, beautiful and confident but not vain, proud of and ready to use her sexuality but not overtly sexualized, fiercely loyal to a fault at times... She frequently talks about the bumps and bruises and lessons she learned the hard way across many lifetimes which gives the feeling like every amazing trait she has was earned through more blood, sweat, and tears than we can imagine. I don't think any other combination of actresses+writers could have given us as good of a character.
The longer the no.1 character went not being yet ranked the happier I got throughout this video. I actually did a wee victory dance alone, in my room, when my personal favourite recieved the top spot 😁😁😁😁 My absolute unquestionable favourite character in DS9 & tied favourite overall Star Trek with Saru from Discovery xx
Jadzia dying was a tragedy that still irritates me, but I actually liked having Ezri in the show. It brought the Sisko/Dax relationship full circle, with the pupil becoming the mentor, and I really wish they'd leaned more on that than her interactions with Worf.
Hey Seán. This is IMO, if I dare say, the best Star Trek List/Ranking you've done, being there for the premiere felt so dramatic and fun, because I had no idea where that list was going to go. It was super suspenseful in the best way! You guys are getting really good at these videos, thank you! 🖖🏻👨🏻🦲👍🏻 Live Long And Prosper!
The fact that Garak isn't in the thumbnail for this video is a major oversight. But, that's exactly the way the character would have wanted it... and I suspect you knew that going in. Well played, sir. Garak was a vital and irreplaceable part of ultimately defeating the Dominion, and saving the entire Alpha Quadrant, and I fully agree with your choice of putting him at #1.
Dukat is such an amazingly written villain. You can see everything, all his motivations, his beliefs, his justifications, laid bare on screen... and rather than justifying him or making him sympathetic, he's still horrifying, an absolute egomaniac fascist and a complete slimeball to boot. And so entertaining to watch. 10/10, A+ bastard.
Yes, Garak is no.1. His character development while his character is simultaneously a mystery. A complete story, with no need for further development. He tortured Odo, committed treason against his people, and he killed Weyoun. And yet we never needed to forgive him. Freaking genius.
Honestly I could actually see Martok as Chancellor siding with Picard in helping with the Romulan evacuation as a way to Honor that they were once allies in the Dominion War.
I'd have put Nog higher, but good list! I almost turned it off in disgust at Kira thinking you'd give Sisko #1 and was appalled you didn't include Garak. I'm so glad I was wrong! My top 3 is definitely Garak, Quark and Nog.
Jeffery Combs as Weyoun was EXCELLENT. Imo, excluding the "main cast", only Garak was possibly better, partially due to his position in the story. Gul Dukat was great too.
I had started jotting down my "what about " list and Keiko was on it--and also the O''Briens' tragic daughter, Molly. I suppose everyone's definition of "major character" will vary, but I remember Keiko and Molly much more than the "what's his name"? Star Fleet admiral! Also, what about Quark' mother, Noogie (? spelling)? And the Grand Negus? Maybe what I just want is another list: "Minor but Memorable DS9 Characters Ranked."
I had so many 'that's wrongs' and 'yes, buts', and 'you've clearly misunderstoods' lined up, but then you revealed your number one. I agree. There is nothing more to say.
20:34 I am PRETTY SURE that moment where "Bashir" was advising Sisko to surrender, it was actually the Changeling Infiltrator. The way you tell, is the Hateful Narrow Eyed Glint and always frowning, smug and angry.
Jeffrey Combs is the greatest actor in all of Star Trek! His plethora of characters over almost every show is the last half century exude his unparalleled talent to completely dominate the scene no matter how thick and weird his makeup is
My personal (and very subjective) top 5: Kira, Weyoun, Garak, Quark, Demar Kira in particular was very close to a perfectly written character, one of the few who had believable motivations, reactions, predisposed biases and a natural developmental arc (and not weighed down by insufferable and unbelievable moral virtue).
I was worried when you ranked Kai Wynn and the changeling leader so low, but that just shows you how many incredibly great characters there were on the show. And while I personally would've shuffled Nog and Worf around, otherwise you've got 'em nailed. Especially your #1.
No matter how poorly she was served by the writing Ziyal was worth every minute of screen time. Without her we never get the amazing exchange between Garak and Kira after her death: Kira: She loved you, you know. Garak: I never could understand why… and now I guess I never will. Whatever you thought about Ziyal the character you gotta love that she saw something in Garak he couldn’t even see in himself.
The production team clearly had no idea what to do with Ziyal, exemplified best by the fact the character was played by like four different actresses, and no one seemed to notice.
Andrew Robinson was at a con a few years ago and was asked by a fan about his thoughts on Ziyal. I'm quoting as best I can here: "Ziyal... That was messed up from the beginning. The writers, God love 'em, were just trying to give Garak a squeeze, but we all knew his heart belonged to our Doctor Bashir." At that point, he hugged Sid who was sitting beside him LOL.
Quark is by far my favorite DS9 character. I love how he portrays himself as a typical Ferrangi but really he is a good guy who does the right thing in the end, and yeah he’ll make some profit along the way, but common he’s still a ferrangi.
Garak is my favorite, but Dukat would still make my top 5. Garak vs Dukat is a very interesting debate, but I think they're both top tier characters from the series.
Admiral Ross is a rare breed ... a Star Trek Admiral who isn't a complete bell-end who is out purely for himself. He isn't a complete prick! Quelle surprise. I liked him a lot. I'd even forgive him his dealings with Section 31. All the characters have a dark shadow lurking.
Thanks for not ripping poor Ezri. Nicole had the most difficult task imaginable, but I think she did a nice job of making the character her own rather than simply trying to mimic Terry's beloved portrayal.
Risky move putting Garak at No1. I don't think you were ever going to win with this ordering. Interesting evaluation of the characters, particularly Kira. Her journey is one of the greatest in Star Trek history. ....tf Michelle Forbes found something else to do.
With such a great ensemble cast, it's hard to rank them! Congratulations on a thought-provoking list, and allowing me (and a lot of other people--98,263 so far) revisit this great show. Today, my list is more or less Kira, Odo, Sisko, Quark, Gul Dukat, Bashir, Jadzia Dax, Garak ... but tomorrow I would possibly change my mind. I tend to like the conflicted characters, or those with traumas in their past, rather than the nice steady ones like O'Brien. I find Worf (and Klingons in general) not that interesting. I realized how much I'd missed DS9 on seeing some of the episodes again when BBC America was running it. Now, alas, they just have Next Generation, which I don't like much--too bland. The big strength of DS9 was the characters, who really seized hold of my mind and feelings, for good or bad. The last episode was so heartbreaking--up there with the last episode of M*A*S*H.
@@DistractANoodle not my head canon. The actors are on record as saying they chose to play Garak and Bashir as a queer couple. Once the producers figured it out, that’s when Bashir and O’Brien became friends and Garak got a girlfriend.
A friend of mine did a couple tours in Afghanistan and he suffers some pretty severe ptsd because of it. He's also a big star trek fan and he told me that Nogs portrayal of ptsd was pretty spot on...
My favourite side characters: ROM - The DS9 character I empathise with the most. A misfit who is constantly told that he isn't a real Ferengi, but manages to find his place in spite of everything. Damar - One of the best redemption arcs I have ever seen. His interactions with Weyoun were always fun. Weyoun - Love the combination of fanatic zealotry and politeness. The Vorta species in general is fascinating to me, I wish DS9 had given us more lore about them. Also, Weyoun 6 deserved to live. Ishka/Moogie - She has the lobes for business. A true girlboss. I really like the Ferengi, even though their mentality is very much opposed to my irl views. (Also applies to my other favourite species, the Vorta, Changelings and Cardassians.) I don't include Quark and Garak here, because they are main characters imo.
My feeling about DS9 is the extended characters are even more interesting than the main cast. And it's thanks to interesting writing and incredible character actors.
Love this video. I don't agree with calling it worst to best. What was great about the series is how the supporting cast was so developed. Now on to your list. When they made Sisko # 3. I am was questioning them But Garak # 1. "I can live with it"
The best character is Morn, such a deeply complex and multidimention character and his speeches, God! His character is other level.
You have not experienced Morns speeches until you have heard them in the original Klingon
That guy never shuts up !
True...but tells too many long rambling stories.
@@hollieliles1601 My favorite way to refer to the Klingon language is the way that the Klingon trouble maker said it in "Trouble With Tribbles." He referred to it as "Klingonee."
His accent was a bit inconsistent from season to season. It was quite jarring whenever he spoke.
Weyoun being so far down on the list feels like a crime.
It does. It's also a crime that ex-Liquidator Brunt didn't even get a passing mention.
Agreed. I posted similar before I saw your comment. Combs is a Trek Treasure!
@@30somethingmanchild Seconded. Combs is so versatile. I love him as Brunt.
It is. A shameful one at that.
Perhaps he is so low on the list because he manipulated Sean into that position, biding his time a mere ambassador... I see what you did the there...
I still don't trust him
That Grand Nagus Zek did not make the list is, well, INCONCEIVABLE!
This is a crime. It has to be an oversight.
One of the classic blunders
I just saw that episode for the first time yesterday. I immediately wondered if he had any iocaine.
Bahahah! I see whatcha did there, and I love it!
He's busy starting a land war in Asia
Garak’s position in this ranking just feels SO RIGHT.
Absolutely!
Best character in whole star trek to me. And i miss Brunt FCA on this list.
@@humr2346 Brunt, while awesome, wasn't a major character, but rather a well-developed side character.
@@TheWyldehart Same as Zyal or Bareil.
Yep... At 4, I was thinking it'd be 3) Garak, 2) and 1) Sisko / Kira in either position. That Garak is no 1 is just so cool.
It goes to show how good DS9 is when even the "worst" on this list are engaging characters.
Listen! I was getting upset with so many great characters in the bottom, and then I read your comment. Makes sense!! lol
This list wouldn't be as long for Voyager or Next Gen (combined). Lol
maybe the 'worst' characters should have just been called underused
Are you seriously going to call Vic Fontaine "engaging"?
Too true 👍
Quark is the best. Argued logic with a vulcan, argued greed with the wormhole aliens. He out-honored a klingon.
Well it's not hard to out honor a Klingon that has none.
Agreed
Rom outsmarted Quark on more than one occasion. 😅 Quark really underestimated Rom's ingenuity. 😄😄
The Quark/Odo dynamic is simply the best stuff in Trek.
Kira/Dukat is a close second
"That man loves me. Couldn't you see it? It was written all over his back."
Bashir and O’Brien leave the chat*
Sisko’s dad being higher than weyoun is… very strange.
cough cough representation even though both Jake and Sisko are good characters.
Cassidy higher than Weyoun and Martok among a few others is just bewildering.
@@TheProteanGeek martok, sisko, weyoun, jadsea, and quark are the best
oh and odo
@@TheProteanGeek whole lineup order is BS
Kai Winn should be way, way higher up IMO. The fact that she is so infuriatingly, saccharinely evil is *exactly* what makes her an absolutely incredible character. Her portrayal and writing were top-notch.
I agree, she was like star treks Dolores umbridge
@@clayvision Winn was an amazing character both written and acted incredibly well.
Yep, can't mistake a popularity contest with their effective impact on a series. If she didn't make you wanna smack her, then she would've been a poor villain.
@@monkeytime9851 Absolutely, she is written perfectly as a self-entitled zealot who uses her religious position and power purely to serve her own ends and Fletcher plays it with absolute precision. I know Louise Fletcher is probably better known for her role as Nurse Ratched but she will always be Winn to me. Winn is truly despicable and this is why she should be higher
She's the second best Star Trek villain ever!
Rest well, Louise Fletcher. Hated Vedek Winn but damn, you did so well bringing life to someone we all despised.
Weyoun should be higher IMHO. At least on my list, he would be. Jeffrey Combs is a Trek treasure!
Weyoun is good; but Liquidator Brunt is Combs best
In no reality does Cassidy Yates rank higher than Weyoun, Damar, Martok, Nog, or evem Jake.
I gave this one thumbs up because it wouldn't let me do 100.
Correct.
Damar was probably one of the biggest developments. You know they've done a show well when I guy you barely notice, then hate, makes you feel bad when he dies.
Came for this
Garak & Sisko both saved the Alpha Quadrant (aka the most lives; see In the Pale Moonlight). There's your #1 and #2. Garak saved Worf, Martok, and Bashir in the prison Camp. Garak doesn't get the credit he deserves.
He is but a simple tailor, no credit please. He would refuse it all with a sly, knowing smile.
Agreed. In the Pale Moonlight is still one of the best episoides ever.
Garak is such an interesting character. He had such good lines. “Never tell the same lie twice” a new take on never cry wolf. Quark was another one. Using rules based on money to outsmart a Vulcan.
The root beer scene is still my favorite. "It's insidious."
"Just like the Federation."
The, "You know the sad thing? I am a really good tailor," line is also amazing.
"My dear doctor, they're all true." "Even the lies?" "ESPECIALLY the lies."
He rarely failed to make me laugh.
@@kanebravo953 I loved the root beer seen too. I was like, Yes! Root beer is the best. My favorite drink and it gets acknowledged.
@@StormsparkPegasus I LOVE that line
DS9 shinned having the best supporting cast. Nothing against the series regulars but they captured lightning in a bottle with some unbelievable characters. No wonder they were always asked to come back
Space stations have shins??
And Dukat at 9!?!?! He's nailed on top 3 for me!
Yes, I agree. I loved Dukat and hated him. He's fantastic.
He's my #1
I would love a Pa-Wraith Dukat to pop up with a Jem Hadar fleet somewhere
Dukat is clearly top 5, probably top 3 with Odo and Garak.
Garak is brilliant as a character! We never really knew who he was, but did at the same time.
Garak number... I'm good with that. I have seen some talk here in the comments about Morn. He could never be on a list like this. He is a cut above the rest. He is all things to all species. You can't put a number on Morn. That would be like trying catch a dream and putting in to a jar. It can' be done. Because I can safely say, that to know him, was to love him. And to love him, was to know him... Those who knew him, loved him, while those who did not know him, loved too.
Whenever he spoke it brought a tear to my eye.
@@tails0420ify Whenever he sang, I needed retire to my bunk.
Paaahahahaha. I love how Keiko O'Brien (19 episodes) isn't even *on* this list despite the fact that Joseph Sisko (6 eps), Vic Fontaine (7 eps), Vedek Bareil (8 eps), Eddington (9), and Ziyal (9) all are. :-D
Jake Sisko was only in 6 episodes?
More than just the Yoko Ono to Miles' John Lennon, Keiko's character was complicated. At times annoying, yet Keiko actually encouraged her husband's even more complicated relationship with another man - I'd put Keiko somewhere in the middle between best and worst.
She was empty. I didn’t find her interesting in the least. She didn’t bring anything to the overall story line. The others did.
@@yeoman4850 Joseph, (Sisko's dad), not Jake (his son).
@@scotttild She definitely brought more than Bareil, Ziyal or Eddington. Combined.
Fascinating to think of how Voyager had to kill off Characters to make room for new ones whereas DS9 managed to add many great recurring characters.
I assume it was beacuse DS9 was cheaper because they didn't have to pay as much for costumes and alien makeup.
With this list, I mourn for Morn.
I know! Why no Morn? In my book, Morn should have been put at the #1 position.
Drat, precisely what *I* wanted to say! :-)
great list! I would've put Kai Winn much, much higher, though. A love-to-hate character and ultimately more complex and interesting than Dukat. Also: Louise Fletcher! Come on! 😉 And where's Keiko!?
Kira Nerys is my favourite character she was totally amazing & absolutely gorgeous
I love Kira; but I worship the Intendant
@@brainsmasher66 so do I
O'Brien wasn't just a hero. He was a union man.
And the Most Important Person in Star Fleet History.
O'Brien is too low on the list, should be in top 4.
And he must suffer in order to shine!
O'Brien is the best character in DS9
*wink*
Fantastic! Garak was the most complex and awesome character and the also portrayed by Dirty Harry’s nemesis.
He was also Liberace!
@@TheWyldehart And Frank Ryan!
*Best Side character has to be that Ferengi assassin who throws a knife at Moogi during a hostage crisis*
Eliminator Lek. He's great, should have been a more prominent recurring character.
The answer to the question "Who is the best Star Trek Captain?" is Martok.
Absolutely. And he was the mentor/father figure that Worf always needed
That's a funny way to spell "Sisko"; though, I do applaud your audacity.
No. It's still Sisko, but Martok was great.
how on earth did Kassidy Yates end up on this list above Nog?
The person making the list was drinking Klingon blood wine when it came to them... Never drink and write!
Black and female.
I actually liked Michael Eddington as a character because I did feel blindsided by his reveal of being a Maquis. One thing I liked about O'Brien was the touch his sleeves always being rolled partway up his arm.
Hago lo mismo para dar la impresión que trabajo más que los demás.
Fun fact! Wardrobe designed his uniform with the sleeves permanently rolled like that because he did it so often. It's also the inspiration for Mariner's sleeves!
Your comment at the end of the video that Garak was the best ally to have on your side - or the greatest enemy, reminded me of the great line near the end of the episode "Second Skin". When Kira is being rescued by Odo, Cisco, and Garak, Kira remarks to the Cardassian leader "Don't worry, he's on our side - I think..." I remember thinking "A classic description of Garak!"
You missed Keko O'Brian. True not main curator but much more than some others listed
Lol, yeah, they "forgot" her
@@tigerbread78 Keiko sucked.
@@Josh1Day But only Miles.
Whenever she's on I fast forward through her shrew-like scenes. And Troi's "counseling" scenes. And any of Troi's mom.
She was in Nineteen DS9 episodes!?! Definitely more than Sloan, and prbly more than others on this list.
I searched for decades for just the right words to describe Wynn. Nowadays, those words have been delivered. Pope Karen.
Dax is by far one of, if not THE best female character ever written and portrayed. She is smart but not arrogant, wise but still with her own flaws, beautiful and confident but not vain, proud of and ready to use her sexuality but not overtly sexualized, fiercely loyal to a fault at times... She frequently talks about the bumps and bruises and lessons she learned the hard way across many lifetimes which gives the feeling like every amazing trait she has was earned through more blood, sweat, and tears than we can imagine. I don't think any other combination of actresses+writers could have given us as good of a character.
You missed Keiko, the Nagus, Moogie, Kai Opaka, Brunt and Gowron.
The Nagus absolutely deserves a place on this list, definitely over Cassidy Yates imo.
That's LIQUIDATOR Brunt to you! 😂😂
Wait, Kassidy, ABOVE Nog?
Yeah, that one was a misstep.
He probably meant to swap them
The longer the no.1 character went not being yet ranked the happier I got throughout this video. I actually did a wee victory dance alone, in my room, when my personal favourite recieved the top spot 😁😁😁😁
My absolute unquestionable favourite character in DS9 & tied favourite overall Star Trek with Saru from Discovery xx
YESSSSSS! I squeed when he hadn't been mentioned by #2. I never doubted where he would land.
I was sitting here wracking my brain trying to figure out who #1 could be, and I cannot BELIEVE I momentarily forgot about plain, simple, Elim!
Jadzia dying was a tragedy that still irritates me, but I actually liked having Ezri in the show. It brought the Sisko/Dax relationship full circle, with the pupil becoming the mentor, and I really wish they'd leaned more on that than her interactions with Worf.
That would have been a great use of her character. It seems like they spent all her screen time making sure everyone knew ‘she’s not Jadzia’.
Personally, I think Worf and Weyoun should be swap places, but other than that, great list! (And Garak most certainly deserves his spot.)
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You did my man dirty. O'brien not making the top 5 is a damn shame. I love Garak at number 1 though.
Hey Seán. This is IMO, if I dare say, the best Star Trek List/Ranking you've done, being there for the premiere felt so dramatic and fun, because I had no idea where that list was going to go. It was super suspenseful in the best way! You guys are getting really good at these videos, thank you! 🖖🏻👨🏻🦲👍🏻 Live Long And Prosper!
my favorites:
1.) Jadzia Dax
2.) Bashir
3.) Sisko
4.) Odo
5.) O Brian
6.) Dukat
7.) Garak
8.) Quark
9.) Weyoun
10.) Kira
Which Weyoun?
The best Star Trek! I wish the new trek was more like this!
We all do...
Yes, but I guess every show can’t be the best.
Some odd choices. Kai Winn is a superb villain and to have her this far down is…interesting.
Admiral Ross?
Molly O’Brian had a bigger impact
The fact that Garak isn't in the thumbnail for this video is a major oversight. But, that's exactly the way the character would have wanted it... and I suspect you knew that going in. Well played, sir. Garak was a vital and irreplaceable part of ultimately defeating the Dominion, and saving the entire Alpha Quadrant, and I fully agree with your choice of putting him at #1.
Dukat is such an amazingly written villain. You can see everything, all his motivations, his beliefs, his justifications, laid bare on screen... and rather than justifying him or making him sympathetic, he's still horrifying, an absolute egomaniac fascist and a complete slimeball to boot. And so entertaining to watch. 10/10, A+ bastard.
Yes, Garak is no.1. His character development while his character is simultaneously a mystery. A complete story, with no need for further development. He tortured Odo, committed treason against his people, and he killed Weyoun. And yet we never needed to forgive him. Freaking genius.
That was great; well-written, with great accompanying clips. I'd love to see you do it for the other series!
Honestly I could actually see Martok as Chancellor siding with Picard in helping with the Romulan evacuation as a way to Honor that they were once allies in the Dominion War.
I just finished this series. It still hurts. Why must all good things come to and end
what about Keiko O'Brien she was a major character on DS9
I'd have put Nog higher, but good list! I almost turned it off in disgust at Kira thinking you'd give Sisko #1 and was appalled you didn't include Garak. I'm so glad I was wrong! My top 3 is definitely Garak, Quark and Nog.
Jeffery Combs as Weyoun was EXCELLENT. Imo, excluding the "main cast", only Garak was possibly better, partially due to his position in the story. Gul Dukat was great too.
Throwing in Zek and Keiko could have made it a round thirty.
Great stuff otherwise.
Yeah; why aren't they in the list? And Morn too! Make it (section) 31!
@@bradfordhatch5085 Yeah...I mean if Leeta is on there, Keiko ought to be.
I had started jotting down my "what about " list and Keiko was on it--and also the O''Briens' tragic daughter, Molly. I suppose everyone's definition of "major character" will vary, but I remember Keiko and Molly much more than the "what's his name"? Star Fleet admiral! Also, what about Quark' mother, Noogie (? spelling)? And the Grand Negus? Maybe what I just want is another list: "Minor but Memorable DS9 Characters Ranked."
@@elainechubb971 Her name was Ishkar, Moogie is "mom" in Ferengi.
No Brunt, no Nagus, no Moogie, but Admiral Ross and Sloan?
Brunt FCA should be in top 10
Yeah, same.
Moooooooooooogie!
Garak was the coolest character in Star Trek universe and Sloan might have been the only character who could match wits with him.
I had so many 'that's wrongs' and 'yes, buts', and 'you've clearly misunderstoods' lined up, but then you revealed your number one. I agree. There is nothing more to say.
This has always been the Start Trek show with the strongest cast.
20:34 I am PRETTY SURE that moment where "Bashir" was advising Sisko to surrender, it was actually the Changeling Infiltrator.
The way you tell, is the Hateful Narrow Eyed Glint and always frowning, smug and angry.
Best show ever!
Absolutely.
2nd. Fringe
Jeffrey Combs is the greatest actor in all of Star Trek! His plethora of characters over almost every show is the last half century exude his unparalleled talent to completely dominate the scene no matter how thick and weird his makeup is
Tony Todd playing old Jake in The Visiter is the best acting along with most of what Brooks put on screen
Just plain Garak deserved to be number one on this list.
My personal (and very subjective) top 5:
Kira, Weyoun, Garak, Quark, Demar
Kira in particular was very close to a perfectly written character, one of the few who had believable motivations, reactions, predisposed biases and a natural developmental arc (and not weighed down by insufferable and unbelievable moral virtue).
This is the correct top 5
How could you miss Keiko O’Brien?
I was worried when you ranked Kai Wynn and the changeling leader so low, but that just shows you how many incredibly great characters there were on the show. And while I personally would've shuffled Nog and Worf around, otherwise you've got 'em nailed. Especially your #1.
For me, the fact that defines Sisco as a character are that slap on Q's face !!!!
No matter how poorly she was served by the writing Ziyal was worth every minute of screen time. Without her we never get the amazing exchange between Garak and Kira after her death:
Kira: She loved you, you know.
Garak: I never could understand why… and now I guess I never will.
Whatever you thought about Ziyal the character you gotta love that she saw something in Garak he couldn’t even see in himself.
How could anyone rank Prune juice, extra large, so low? You dishonor you and your house.
The production team clearly had no idea what to do with Ziyal, exemplified best by the fact the character was played by like four different actresses, and no one seemed to notice.
Andrew Robinson was at a con a few years ago and was asked by a fan about his thoughts on Ziyal. I'm quoting as best I can here: "Ziyal... That was messed up from the beginning. The writers, God love 'em, were just trying to give Garak a squeeze, but we all knew his heart belonged to our Doctor Bashir." At that point, he hugged Sid who was sitting beside him LOL.
I love Dammar’s scenes with Weyoun; how he constantly gets under skin.
Yep
Garak is appropriate at 1 but Sisko, Weyoun, Dukat, and Quark would make my top 5. In no particular order. With Odo a very close 6th spot.
No Kira? She's my no. 1, Odo my no 2, Sisko no. 3,. That's today; tomorrow I may change the order.
When you watch Dukat and Winn together or Sisko and Winn together, I think it's clear that Winn should be up there with both of them.
Number 1 for me is Sisko, then Otto, Kira, Worf, Quark, Garack
I don't think Quark is on Free Cloud, I believe he got some help from Rom to develop a franchise. Quarks bar all over the Alpha Quadrant
Right. Like I've never seen Ronald Mcdonald at any McDonald's I've been to ever. Obviously they both just franchised out their names and businesses.
Garak! Loved he was number 1. I would love to see you guys pick a star fleet crew to serve with from multiple shows but as one crew.
Quark is by far my favorite DS9 character. I love how he portrays himself as a typical Ferrangi but really he is a good guy who does the right thing in the end, and yeah he’ll make some profit along the way, but common he’s still a ferrangi.
I think I would have put dukat a bit higher, but all these characters are SO great. Totally agree with #1
Dukat's entry on the list must be a mix up. He's the best thing about DS9
Dukat is the most interesting villain I've seen (which Sean Derrick even said)
Yes!
Garak is my favorite, but Dukat would still make my top 5.
Garak vs Dukat is a very interesting debate, but I think they're both top tier characters from the series.
Admiral Ross is a rare breed ... a Star Trek Admiral who isn't a complete bell-end who is out purely for himself. He isn't a complete prick! Quelle surprise. I liked him a lot. I'd even forgive him his dealings with Section 31. All the characters have a dark shadow lurking.
I might have swapped Sisko and Garak in the list, and I thought both Winn and Dukat belonged higher, but otherwise it's hard to fault their choices.
One word Mr. Ferrick "PERFECT" You once again NAILED it!!
I think it's indicative that although we can argue about this or that ranking, there's no more than one or two duds on the whole list.
WHAT good show.
But: there was only one "Major" character and even she was promoted to colonel at some point.
Keep it warm for Morn . Thats all i have to say about that.
Thanks for not ripping poor Ezri. Nicole had the most difficult task imaginable, but I think she did a nice job of making the character her own rather than simply trying to mimic Terry's beloved portrayal.
You put Kasidy way above Weyoun….
This.
Risky move putting Garak at No1.
I don't think you were ever going to win with this ordering.
Interesting evaluation of the characters, particularly Kira.
Her journey is one of the greatest in Star Trek history.
....tf Michelle Forbes found something else to do.
With such a great ensemble cast, it's hard to rank them! Congratulations on a thought-provoking list, and allowing me (and a lot of other people--98,263 so far) revisit this great show. Today, my list is more or less Kira, Odo, Sisko, Quark, Gul Dukat, Bashir, Jadzia Dax, Garak ... but tomorrow I would possibly change my mind. I tend to like the conflicted characters, or those with traumas in their past, rather than the nice steady ones like O'Brien. I find Worf (and Klingons in general) not that interesting. I realized how much I'd missed DS9 on seeing some of the episodes again when BBC America was running it. Now, alas, they just have Next Generation, which I don't like much--too bland. The big strength of DS9 was the characters, who really seized hold of my mind and feelings, for good or bad. The last episode was so heartbreaking--up there with the last episode of M*A*S*H.
It feels lacking not mention that the Bashir/O’Brien friendship was only created to break up Star Trek’s first male same sex couple; Bashir and Garak.
I can't figure out is this just your headcanon or somehow confirmed, but I love it.
@@DistractANoodle not my head canon. The actors are on record as saying they chose to play Garak and Bashir as a queer couple. Once the producers figured it out, that’s when Bashir and O’Brien became friends and Garak got a girlfriend.
How do you explain Q and his obsession with Picard?
That smile - oh dear! So glad he made the number 1 spot.
A friend of mine did a couple tours in Afghanistan and he suffers some pretty severe ptsd because of it. He's also a big star trek fan and he told me that Nogs portrayal of ptsd was pretty spot on...
I thought you forgot about Garak! Ha, very accurate list indeed ☺️
My favourite side characters:
ROM - The DS9 character I empathise with the most. A misfit who is constantly told that he isn't a real Ferengi, but manages to find his place in spite of everything.
Damar - One of the best redemption arcs I have ever seen. His interactions with Weyoun were always fun.
Weyoun - Love the combination of fanatic zealotry and politeness. The Vorta species in general is fascinating to me, I wish DS9 had given us more lore about them. Also, Weyoun 6 deserved to live.
Ishka/Moogie - She has the lobes for business. A true girlboss.
I really like the Ferengi, even though their mentality is very much opposed to my irl views. (Also applies to my other favourite species, the Vorta, Changelings and Cardassians.)
I don't include Quark and Garak here, because they are main characters imo.
Deep Space Nine is, arguably, the best written and acted Star Trek series in the entire franchise. It's a very high bar, 'twoud seem.
This beautiful video reminded me how much i love DS9. Great job guys!
My feeling about DS9 is the extended characters are even more interesting than the main cast. And it's thanks to interesting writing and incredible character actors.
My list: 1.Gul Dukat 2.Garak 3.Kira 4.Sisko 5.Quark 6.Rom 8.Jadzia 9.Miles 10.Brunt 11.Kai Winn 12.Worf 13.Weyoun 14.Bashir 15.Zek 16.Damar 17.Gowron 18.Remata'Klan 19.Sloan 20.Kurn 21.Vic
Love this video. I don't agree with calling it worst to best. What was great about the series is how the supporting cast was so developed. Now on to your list. When they made Sisko # 3. I am was questioning them But Garak # 1. "I can live with it"
Quark is not on Free Cloud. That is a franchise until canonized otherwise.