Josh, I have to say this series is the best series of videos you have ever put out. I mainly play the IGL role in my team. I've watched every vid so far and I also make my team members watch these vids to have them get a feel for what I'm trying to do in game So thank you very much for these!
As a MGE trying to understand the game and aspiring to igl, i love this serie, and enjoy watching your streams. I realy appreciate the time you put into making the cs community smarter, and better. Keep up the great work, and I hope I can be a fan for a long time to come man!
i love how this applies to 100T in val. asuna is, very obviously, an aggressive rifler; and dicey is obviously a passive awper/ rifler. so fun to see that steel has kept the same philosophy through different games, buddy system and all.
I would like to see you make a video about going back to the basics on t side defaults because it's so commonly referred to but everyone looks at it differently.
This was really helpful. I find this aimer-vs-positional player thing occurs a lot in games I play in and it's really hard to figure out where to put people. The only issue I have is sometimes controlling aimers when you send them on a push. Often times I'll ask a couple of guys if they can push an area to get a pick, but when they get the pick they keep pushing and get themselves traded rather than falling back to a more passive position.
What to you think about JW? He is clearly overly aggressive but I believe he is also very disciplined. 2 easiest examples is when he pushed cat vs TSM to get the mid pick and jumping back to CT immediately. The other being pushing the moli but running back immediately. Would you consider (of course looking into his overall play) him for you disciplined?
2 years late but that's called calculated aggression. An aggressive player is vital in alot of teams to rely on to get that early info or important pick
As a question would you say it would be sensible to use an aggressive playstyle if the two largest fraggers are aggressive but the rest like to play a slower approach
Like everything there's pros and cons, with aggressive players, and passive players there are pros and cons. However, most aggressive players are looked at as "puggers/scimmers". How do you suggest changing a play style, from a hyper aggressive main awp / hybrid to a more passive all around player? For example when I see an aim duel 9/10 I will take the duel, trying to limit myself or have some self control.
On overpass for CT side, I was thinking that since I have such an aggressive entry fragger he could go B with me, watch for rush, if there isn't one push to water. Then, I play the AWPer trying to pick that every few rounds or holding long, and a guy bathroom and one for connector. Would this be decent?
If you send multiple people over at B and if you have a guy connector holding the door push (theres an insanely OP pixel angle to see if someone peaks or goes for the door, or he might use a molotov) you can take short instantly at the beggining of the round with proper utility. You are talking about more of a "retake short" play, which can be done like that, tho i prefer doing that with 2 guys connector and a guy B because short gets way more T-sided when connector is already taken (even part of it with a smoke) the aggressive guy and the awp going connector in that strat seems good to me. (just figure you asked that 2 y ago, but hey someone might read that)
near the end of your video u said that it could be right to put your mad fraggers in the anchor position, and it was dependant on many things such as the map or team you're playing against, but you gave no examples to support your point. could you go more into detail about that?
Hi steel! Awesome video, just wondering if you could maybe use an example using pro players and where you would place them in a strat or a setup? Thank you :)
Yo Steel thanks for the amazing Videoseries, i have a question tho, im usually the guy who calls the strats when i play with a bunch of friends and im not only the igl but also a good lurker, is it ok for me to be the guy who sits outside b if we would use this default and look for save openings or picks when the enemies rotate of so im kinda in an IGL/Lurker position or should i be with the pack of 3 so i know whats going on with the bomb and such? Greetings from Austria :)
Hey Steel, how would you suggest playing if one of your friends is several ranks in skill below the rest of the group? Like, where would you put that player, how would you play with the guy?
+SoullessPyre Not support, support needs to be one of your best players. It is hard to play with a lower skill level player. Your IGL needs to be smart, your lurker needs to be smart, your awper has to have good aim, your support and entry also have to have good aim. I might say entry sense the entry is kind of bait, but at the same time the entry is very important lol. Just play around and see what fits him best on the team :]
Entry fragger basically means you like going in first when taking map control or executing bombsites, but you don't have to always be pushin / always be first contact in case they retake the zone you took... etc. so if you die taking zones you can easily lead, if you don't die then you are the first guy so you calling the shots will ensure noone is pushing too far for your plan, and that you always see firsthand what their defense is on the pushes you took. Plus everyone should be enabled to call midround in a team, you just have the final word. In the end it will bring a style to your team that a team with a more lurkish IGL might not have and again its rock papers scisors
Yeah, well i took Ingame leading never that far. I just call what to do when to do and how. I search some gaps in the enymie team and try to use it to win.
peaking their AWPer mid/ pushing to mid with some utility usage and taking fights from around Xbox like kennyS does sometimes/ retaking long late-round after a more passive beggining/playing around cat/ pushing into B tunnels with the help of a teammate/watching it early from Xbox/. Basically playing everywhere on the map and being unpredictable at the beggining of the round. You can also go take early shots in a zone and then insta-rotate to another zone and always make them worry about an awper flying around the map that they cannot predict
Joshua, your videos are great. But I really think you should buy a new camera or do something for the video quality. I watch on 720p still its not good. Please do implement on my comment. All of your work is remarkable. Good job (y)
Did steel comment that he will be playing pro again. Now with the turner league and many other tournaments the majors arent as important as they used to be.
So i have a team and we are just playing for fun, we are roughly nova 2 combined. Me and my brother have many hours on the game compared to the others. i am the igl and primary awper, my brother is a rifler but if comfortable on the awp. one of my teammates is very aggressive but is new to the game and has a low skill level compared to the rest of us, i then have 2 other teammates who dont have the best game sense and are still learning spray patterns ect. i can play very well when i don't have to think about other people's roles/postitons on the map but am by far the best caller due to experience and instincts. One of the final 2 players likes to play with the awp but is not very good. We occasionally try double awp setups but i struggle to use their full potential becuase there are few places in which he feels comfortable. Part of my struggles may just be that people at this rank don't really try to play inelegantly and try to do executes ect. I really need to organise proper strats for various maps but i feel like the main problem is that sometimes my teammates will call "they are all b" when they only see 2 for instance. Also my really aggressive player does not say a lot during the game and this is really difficult for me because obviously he is the person getting info early on in the round. Is it best for example, on overpass, i use my brother as an anchor on one site because his calls are good and he also has a higher level of skill than my other teammates, or do i play with him on the same site/area of the map because we play well together? i would not feel as comfortable leaving a different teammate on the site solo however because they make mistakes and wouldnt be able to stay alive for long enough. I would usually play at toilet awping fountain and also go for those agressive peaks at party. Should i put my very agressive player up long so he can push up and try to get picks? i would then use my suppport player as one of the newer players that is patient and can hold off angles so i can concentrate on my crosshair. Early round i would send 2 players b and 2 mid 1 long, use my agressive player as the rotate player and then i can have my support player watching long from an off angle inside toilets. Is this the correct way to play a default round? If you have any suggestions i would love to hear them.
Reflex it's heart breaking that he doesn't respond😂😂. But if your g2 you know insanely much about the game. Pls add me on steam cuz there are not many people like u in dmthe community. steamcommunity.com/id/EatHunk/
+PooPooPerson I can answer this. If someone has set up their team using the Rock strategy, a counter to this would be to use the Paper strategy to win.
lols@_@...some igls know their players weakness but not strengths... and some know there strengths but not weakness. they dont increase there success rate by actually knowing their teamates winning percentage is certain type ofs duels. some all aim hold w players are better at entrying on certain parts of map then your actual entry killers and visa versa. some people can be more mobile with awp as a primary and some people are more a frozen awp as ct sided defensive with awp sometimes secondary ect ect ect
So when im a stupid ass aimer... 1)Feel like youre a person which others can't count on 2)Feel like your a cannon-meat by going first 3)Gonna listen to: You're so fucking lucky... 0 brain 100% luck 4)Get the feeling like being an Barbie (You need someone who can fucking control you) THANKS q.q
Please don't stop this series anytime soom, it very informative.
rip
Your rock, paper, scissors analogy was very smart, and loyal, and grateful and i appreciate that
I understood that reference.
Steel = warowl + pro + thorin + rage
Yes!!
+Thomas Perone If you add warowl that would be a video made for mm players
+Furfag1337 well steels vids are aimed towards silvers up to global up to invite players.
Tekniik i dont see how this video is aimed towards any kind of pug player
Furfag1337 i didint say this video. I said his vids.
Josh, I have to say this series is the best series of videos you have ever put out. I mainly play the IGL role in my team. I've watched every vid so far and I also make my team members watch these vids to have them get a feel for what I'm trying to do in game
So thank you very much for these!
I remember watching this 3 years ago, this still is one of my favorite CS:GO tutorials. TY
As a MGE trying to understand the game and aspiring to igl, i love this serie, and enjoy watching your streams. I realy appreciate the time you put into making the cs community smarter, and better. Keep up the great work, and I hope I can be a fan for a long time to come man!
Please do more of this series, they are helping me out a lot as an IGL
Took over the igl role of my team - appreciate the help. Keep up the informative non-toxic content.
This series is helping so much, theres no other guides for IGL's theyre just so underrated. Thank you for the help, keep em coming ;P
Steel keep it up, even for me, the guy from CIS, all clear and very informative. Really appreciate your stuff. Best. Peace.
i love how this applies to 100T in val. asuna is, very obviously, an aggressive rifler; and dicey is obviously a passive awper/ rifler. so fun to see that steel has kept the same philosophy through different games, buddy system and all.
I would like to see you make a video about going back to the basics on t side defaults because it's so commonly referred to but everyone looks at it differently.
Thank you so much Josh! One of the most helpful IGL vids out there.
This was really helpful. I find this aimer-vs-positional player thing occurs a lot in games I play in and it's really hard to figure out where to put people.
The only issue I have is sometimes controlling aimers when you send them on a push. Often times I'll ask a couple of guys if they can push an area to get a pick, but when they get the pick they keep pushing and get themselves traded rather than falling back to a more passive position.
Very well made video, I'm really loving this series!
Really love this series, keep it up!
What to you think about JW?
He is clearly overly aggressive but I believe he is also very disciplined.
2 easiest examples is when he pushed cat vs TSM to get the mid pick and jumping back to CT immediately. The other being pushing the moli but running back immediately. Would you consider (of course looking into his overall play) him for you disciplined?
2 years late but that's called calculated aggression. An aggressive player is vital in alot of teams to rely on to get that early info or important pick
WTF is that on the left at 9:07?
love this series
As a question would you say it would be sensible to use an aggressive playstyle if the two largest fraggers are aggressive but the rest like to play a slower approach
Like everything there's pros and cons, with aggressive players, and passive players there are pros and cons. However, most aggressive players are looked at as "puggers/scimmers". How do you suggest changing a play style, from a hyper aggressive main awp / hybrid to a more passive all around player? For example when I see an aim duel 9/10 I will take the duel, trying to limit myself or have some self control.
+GTB cs get a brain. Not hard to understand that you shouldn't take every fight you see
+[*] SNXW Lmao
Mr.Skratch'N'Sniff Thanks for the useful response. :)
On overpass for CT side, I was thinking that since I have such an aggressive entry fragger he could go B with me, watch for rush, if there isn't one push to water. Then, I play the AWPer trying to pick that every few rounds or holding long, and a guy bathroom and one for connector. Would this be decent?
If you send multiple people over at B and if you have a guy connector holding the door push (theres an insanely OP pixel angle to see if someone peaks or goes for the door, or he might use a molotov) you can take short instantly at the beggining of the round with proper utility.
You are talking about more of a "retake short" play, which can be done like that, tho i prefer doing that with 2 guys connector and a guy B because short gets way more T-sided when connector is already taken (even part of it with a smoke) the aggressive guy and the awp going connector in that strat seems good to me.
(just figure you asked that 2 y ago, but hey someone might read that)
near the end of your video u said that it could be right to put your mad fraggers in the anchor position, and it was dependant on many things such as the map or team you're playing against, but you gave no examples to support your point. could you go more into detail about that?
How are you doing with Sam nowadays?
awesome. A make shift scenario with current pro players would help with the visualization and application tho!
Hi steel! Awesome video, just wondering if you could maybe use an example using pro players and where you would place them in a strat or a setup? Thank you :)
so my team we have a amazing passive awper and we have a main 3 agressive and one riflers that lurks what is the best way you think to play this combo
What if I get a really sharp rock? Then I can destroy scissors, AND paper! :D
+Wilfy
Thats the point actualy xD
Marek Juźwiak I made this comment like a second in... then I was like "O.." XD
A sharp rock is a super high skilled fragbot(not really a bot)
Yo Steel thanks for the amazing Videoseries, i have a question tho, im usually the guy who calls the strats when i play with a bunch of friends and im not only the igl but also a good lurker, is it ok for me to be the guy who sits outside b if we would use this default and look for save openings or picks when the enemies rotate of so im kinda in an IGL/Lurker position or should i be with the pack of 3 so i know whats going on with the bomb and such? Greetings from Austria :)
braxN sorry steel never answered your question but I’m here in 2020 and yeah it’s okay to stay away from the pack
Thanks Josh!!
Pro level stuff mate, keep it up
hi josh, can you make a video about how to utilize the awp for its full potential for each map, would greatly appreciated :)
How would you suggest i go about getting kills in call of duty?
move around and hold mouse1
Thanks steel, love you bro
Hey Steel, how would you suggest playing if one of your friends is several ranks in skill below the rest of the group? Like, where would you put that player, how would you play with the guy?
support..
+SoullessPyre Not support, support needs to be one of your best players. It is hard to play with a lower skill level player. Your IGL needs to be smart, your lurker needs to be smart, your awper has to have good aim, your support and entry also have to have good aim. I might say entry sense the entry is kind of bait, but at the same time the entry is very important lol. Just play around and see what fits him best on the team :]
3:46 made me lose my shit laughing and idk why.
can't you do an episode of grenades? you are really good at trowing!
ALEX CS:GO Can you do an episode on grammar and spelling? You're really his at 1t!
Do you still use a mouse bungee?
yes he still does
Can i In game lead and be a entry fragger?
Entry fragger basically means you like going in first when taking map control or executing bombsites, but you don't have to always be pushin / always be first contact in case they retake the zone you took... etc.
so if you die taking zones you can easily lead, if you don't die then you are the first guy so you calling the shots will ensure noone is pushing too far for your plan, and that you always see firsthand what their defense is on the pushes you took. Plus everyone should be enabled to call midround in a team, you just have the final word.
In the end it will bring a style to your team that a team with a more lurkish IGL might not have and again its rock papers scisors
Yeah, well i took Ingame leading never that far. I just call what to do when to do and how. I search some gaps in the enymie team and try to use it to win.
what resolution are you playing on?
1080
Steel please make a VIDEO about FAST movement in csgo. How do move fast and peak fast!! Please!! man appreciate it!
3:21 *Cough* Stewie2k *Cough*
+Darude Sanddoge have you seen him pplay properly, he has an insane mind aswell dude hes Japanese course he does.
+CSGO- efaN™ No, he's not.
+Darude Sanddoge 5:05 "N0thing, utalizing your players"
Actually hes specifically talking about tarik. Tarik and scream. Stewie is extremely smart. Thats why he gets the kills he does
MetroDET2011 No, he's really not.
As the dude said, my strategy of running xm for all rounds but 2 is not a wrong idea.
I do... I do run xm every single round except pistol rounds xd
Xm 1 smoke 2 flashes and a molotov
I'm expecting one video a day for a week, Jonsh!
Thank you so much for this video, it was so helpful :)
how can i be a agressive awper playing ct side dust2
+PUNISHER if im playing aggressive awp on d2 CT side, i usually get someone to boost be up cat and try and get a pick at mid.
thats just me though
peaking their AWPer mid/ pushing to mid with some utility usage and taking fights from around Xbox like kennyS does sometimes/ retaking long late-round after a more passive beggining/playing around cat/ pushing into B tunnels with the help of a teammate/watching it early from Xbox/. Basically playing everywhere on the map and being unpredictable at the beggining of the round. You can also go take early shots in a zone and then insta-rotate to another zone and always make them worry about an awper flying around the map that they cannot predict
The “smart players” and the “fraggers” my god.
Thanks again
Joshua, your videos are great. But I really think you should buy a new camera or do something for the video quality. I watch on 720p still its not good. Please do implement on my comment. All of your work is remarkable.
Good job (y)
thanks!
Did steel comment that he will be playing pro again. Now with the turner league and many other tournaments the majors arent as important as they used to be.
+kevin whalen He's banned for life. Full stop.
just stop already.
+TheIXPredator Hes only banned from valve sponsered leagues
+TheIXPredator He's only banned from valve sponsored events.
+zeijtazeijta I think somebody posted on twitter an E-League banner with valve's logo... #pray4steel
The importance of an IGL? and the responsibility he/she has?
+Hugo Mak tell everyone what to do pretty much
+Hugo Mak Pronax. that's all.
thank u but i know this a year l8 but i learn things alote from u
Very helpful video. Thanks :)
Really helpfull tnx man.
THIS IS GOOD. THX
3:35 RYYYYYYYX
So i have a team and we are just playing for fun, we are roughly nova 2 combined. Me and my brother have many hours on the game compared to the others. i am the igl and primary awper, my brother is a rifler but if comfortable on the awp. one of my teammates is very aggressive but is new to the game and has a low skill level compared to the rest of us, i then have 2 other teammates who dont have the best game sense and are still learning spray patterns ect. i can play very well when i don't have to think about other people's roles/postitons on the map but am by far the best caller due to experience and instincts. One of the final 2 players likes to play with the awp but is not very good. We occasionally try double awp setups but i struggle to use their full potential becuase there are few places in which he feels comfortable. Part of my struggles may just be that people at this rank don't really try to play inelegantly and try to do executes ect. I really need to organise proper strats for various maps but i feel like the main problem is that sometimes my teammates will call "they are all b" when they only see 2 for instance. Also my really aggressive player does not say a lot during the game and this is really difficult for me because obviously he is the person getting info early on in the round. Is it best for example, on overpass, i use my brother as an anchor on one site because his calls are good and he also has a higher level of skill than my other teammates, or do i play with him on the same site/area of the map because we play well together? i would not feel as comfortable leaving a different teammate on the site solo however because they make mistakes and wouldnt be able to stay alive for long enough. I would usually play at toilet awping fountain and also go for those agressive peaks at party. Should i put my very agressive player up long so he can push up and try to get picks? i would then use my suppport player as one of the newer players that is patient and can hold off angles so i can concentrate on my crosshair. Early round i would send 2 players b and 2 mid 1 long, use my agressive player as the rotate player and then i can have my support player watching long from an off angle inside toilets. Is this the correct way to play a default round? If you have any suggestions i would love to hear them.
Reflex it's heart breaking that he doesn't respond😂😂. But if your g2 you know insanely much about the game. Pls add me on steam cuz there are not many people like u in dmthe community. steamcommunity.com/id/EatHunk/
It's too quiet.
Josh Man, we need this for Valorant. Please and thank you.
Mate
M8
MORE IGL SERIES PLEASE! :( NOTICE ME SENPAI
Can you give an in-game example of the rock-paper-scissor analogy? For instance, what set-up is inherently a counter to another?
+PooPooPerson I can answer this. If someone has set up their team using the Rock strategy, a counter to this would be to use the Paper strategy to win.
+Spacemonkeymojo Obviously. I'm asking for strategies in CS that would correspond to rock and paper, where one is a counter to the other.
+PooPooPerson tsm long A take on DD2 vs nV... Watch first 8 rounds
lols@_@...some igls know their players weakness but not strengths... and some know there strengths but not weakness. they dont increase there success rate by actually knowing their teamates winning percentage is certain type ofs duels.
some all aim hold w players are better at entrying on certain parts of map then your actual entry killers and visa versa.
some people can be more mobile with awp as a primary and some people are more a frozen awp as ct sided defensive with awp sometimes secondary ect ect ect
are you playing for a team?
+Endre Hagen He played in Ibuypower that got banned for matchfixing, but he is a very intelligent player.
oki ty
"all aim no brain"
we all thought of the same player.. didnt we?
peanut brain
+Norman Yeung oh actually i thought of Stewie
SynapseTSS∞ that's who I thought of as well XD
tarik or stewie?
So when im a stupid ass aimer...
1)Feel like youre a person which others can't count on
2)Feel like your a cannon-meat by going first
3)Gonna listen to: You're so fucking lucky... 0 brain 100% luck
4)Get the feeling like being an Barbie (You need someone who can fucking control you)
THANKS q.q
Wait playing like a turd or a turret lol