In this video, we talk about the differences between good and and poor coffee. Freshness of the roast is the main factor here, but we also consider species, harvesting type, and roasting type.
I've recently become passionate about good coffee and I've always wondered how to tell the difference between good and bad beans. Thank you for the video!
Hi Tom, and thank you for another interesting video ! About the comparison of the two coffees : The roasting time is different : The "cheap" one is roasted longer. You can check by yourself : If you buy a little amount of green coffee, put in a pot and roast it on the stove (and continuously steering). After the first crack, (you will hear the beans cracking) the beans will become darker, shiny and oily. Have a nice weekend ! 😎
Thanks for that info, Loys! As I understand it, the cheaper beans may be a darker roast, but could have been roasted more quickly, resulting in an uneven roast? Maybe someone can correct me here. Thanks for watching, and for your input! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes, roasting without steering the beans, has you said, on a conveyor belt so the top beans are well roasted and the bottom are light. I won't be surprised if this method is causing of a massive heat loss, though. 😂 Or, they just roast with a faulty machine that struggles to distribute heat evenly (have a broken arm/drum etc.) Industrial roasting can be really accurate, when machines are well tuned, results are impressive !
@@Loys- I worked shortly at a coffee roastery. They had 2 newer drum machines, that I think did 200kg in 15 minutes. Being in the drum, the beans are turned and oscillated evenly. But on a conveyor belt, there will be much more inconsistency, I figure. Thanks for your input! Tom
I used to order beans from Kona, Hawaii, and they were good but very expensive. Then some deliveries were oily and the packaging valve was not working. I am wondering whether flying beans in a depressurized airplane hold can pull out the oils in a medium+ roast. Right now I am buying beans blended and roasted for boutique local coffee shops.
Interesting thoughts there, Tom. And it could be, that’s fine affects the pressure within the bag. Buying local is always fun, and a good way to support local businesses. 👍🏻
Hey tom, thank you very much for making such great videos. I ordered the santa luzia beans and every shot i got with my dedica and my eureka grinder was very sour. these beans are even better for filter coffee and not for espresso
Hey Marc, I have to agree with you. My shots were on the acidic side too, even at higher temperatures. Some beans are just like that though, and probably lend themselves better to making coffee. However, I found that these work nice for a latte macchiato. Thanks for your feedback! Tom
I have no idea if the beans I buy are good or bad it's all about the flavour. I found a brand San Francisco on Amazon and they are very cheap dark roast oily beams but I love them. I've had lighter roasted expensive beans and hated them. I think it depends on what you're used to. I grew up with Starbucks who always produce consistently tasting beans and are probably cheap quality, but the taste is always the same and I really like it.
Hi Gary, certainly dark roast beans can be high quality too. The main things to look out for are 1) how the beans are handled (are there lots of broken beans or not), and 2) how fresh is the roast. The rest is up to preference. I have not had the best luck yet with lightly roasted beans either, but those require different brew parameters. The Decent community has taken a deep dive into this area. Cheers, and thanks for watching!
Thank you for your content. I’m 51y and new to coffee and in love with espresso. I’m problem solving my Dedica Machine non pressure Portafilter. I’d Appreciate discovering some new coffee as I think it may be why I get no creama . Ty Tom Cheryl
Hello Cheryl! Thanks for entering the contest! I hope that you get some good results with your Dedica. I have a Lotta videos about tips for getting the best out of this little machine, so check them out when you have some time. 🙋♂️ Tom
Tatsächlich bin ich gerade auch inmitten der Optimierungsphase. Erster Versuch mit einer älteren, bereits angebrochenen Packung starker Röstung. Kaffee miserabel - die Druckanzeige der Maschine hat sich nicht vom Fleck bewegt. An das Erreichen der Optimal Zone war nicht zu denken. :) Dann haben wir eine "frische" Packung Lavazza-Bohnen mittlerer Röstung gekauft und siehe da: Das Manometer zeigte einen Ausschlag bis auf ca. 10 Uhr. Noch immer nicht optimal aber immerhin eine Verbesserung. Der letzte Test wird mit frisch gerösteten Bohnen (leichte Röstung) sein und ich bin gespannt auf das Ergebnis.
Hoert sich gut an! Nur du musst wissen, es kommt meistens weniger Crema bei leicht geroesteten Bohnen. Ich wuerde zu einem mittleren oder ein bisschen dunkleren Roestung, gemischt mit 20% Robusta raten. Schau mal den Dinzler Roma an. Der ist vollgeil: amzn.to/3O113h6
Hey Sergei, The most consistent high-quality Roastery I know is called Dinzler, but they are expensive. I used their Roma bean for some of my most recent videos, and they made perfect extractions.
It is educational and very good video.But i have question about the grind size - if its older the coffe should i grind it finer to get a bit better result?
@Great video, Tom :-)! I've found Santa Luzia Brazil on popular Polish Internet shop and plan to order it in June. For espresso I mainly use Italian Occaffe Espresso Classico. I've been using it for 3 years or so. I curious about Santa Luzia Brazil and also curious about the coffees you offer in your giveaway. I've registered already. I will try to jump in today's live stream. Cheers :-)! Bart
Hey Bart! It would be lovely to have you in the livestream, but it is not today, Sunday, but rather tomorrow, Monday at noon (also Polish time). Today is mother's day. 😉 Glad you found the Santa Luzia, and I wonder what you think of it. Just FYI, coffeefriend.de also sends to Poland, and the shipping is comparable to Germany. Plus there is the voucher for 25% off. So maybe that might be a more economical option. Cheers!
Good video Tom, I live in one of the best coffee producers and have learnt something new with the video. The latest world baristas champions have used a re discover specie that was thought extinct, it is the mother of arabica. I haven’t try it as it is difficult to find and is much more expensive. The name is eugenoides if you want to know more
Hey Rincon! Thanks for commenting, and that is interesting to know about the eugenoides. Now that I have heard of the species, I can be sentient of it in the future, if I run across it. So you live in a coffee producing land?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner finally I could get an eugenoides bag but just 125gr. The notes according to the label are honey, prune, chamomile and floral. I tried one shot but couldn’t taste all those flavors… but for sure is quite different coffee of all coffees i have ever tasted. By the way it is caffeine low naturally
Hey Tom thanks for the video , very interesting content and nicely summarized. However it’s sad you didn’t include the degustation of the coffee at the end … it’s like missing the point. That said, I really love your videos !
Have you ever bought in coffee shops bulk beans inside glass cones? I've found them more usual than fixed quantity sizes: I think they are great to try and experiment but, at the same time, they scares me a bit: is it possible to have real traceability of roasting date and beans origin? Thank you
Sure, I have. I don't know how often these get refilled, but it must be often. I worked shortly at a roastery and coffee shop, and they had those containers, too. Freshness and correct storage was always important to the owner. Cheers!
Thx for the video! today i had to throw away an awful so called medium roasted burnet oily market coffe.. From now on ill only buy fresh coffe as u recommended tyvm.
Great video Tom! I started too with supermarket coffee beans but even if I was lucky to find 'fresh' supermarket coffee beans ( substraction 2 years from the best before date ) still 1kg of beans were too much to stay fresh after opening them. So now I try to go to local coffee shops and buy fresh roasted and smaller packages. I dont know why I always have been a little sceptic about buying coffee online 🤔 do you think I should give a try?
Hey Enes, same exact path for me! Sometimes fresh supermarket beans will be good for a week, then drop off in quality quickly. I like to buy regionally, but sometimes I like to try something new, online. The Santa Luzia beans are very tasty. I think I will buy them for myself sometimes in the future. Cheers!
Will take a look at this coffee you have here and try it. I hope they have smaller bags, do you have a referal or sponsored link so I help you out just a little bit somehow.
@@enesvekshari4395 Thanks, Enes! Yes, this is a sponsored link, but until May 31st you can get any coffee at 25% off with this voucher. This is also in the description. 👍 🇩🇪 Santa Luzia Bohnen: bit.ly/3ymauBP (coffeefriend.de) 💸 Voucher for 25% off Beans: TOMSCC25 (good until May 31st, 2022)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you for thr voucher too. I have one last question if you dont mind. I cant see anywhere on the website the roasting date of the coffee beans, are they freshly roasted within days I order or do they have the same roast date for several packages?
@@enesvekshari4395 Good question. My bag says April 8th, and I got it a week ago. So I guess it was about 3 weeks from the roast date. But, you could write or call them to be sure. They have been a very responsible company to collaborate with, answering all my questions. Cheers! Tom
Is it true the cheaper coffee beans tend to be more darker roasted, the roasted flavour masks other flavours and aroma, gives the impression it's more consistent
Very good video, helpful, but I have to mention that crema is not a purpose or an indication of good taste coffee Indication of freshness and level of roast, yes/maybe Lately too much crema disturbes me, I want only a thin layer and that's all
Yes, you are right that crema does not necessarily have to do with bean quality. But is is an indicator of freshness, which is important in my eyes. Also, many people like the look, and mouthfeel of crema. Cheers! Tom
i have lavazza super crema and my shots are always dark and watery. I've weighed out 18g, i use the barista pro from breville i tamp it and use a controlled distributor. Nothing helps.
just 1 thing: the old beans are more "hard" and the grinder has to have different grade.... because is different to grind those... so, need to be more finner than a fresh beans (fresh = less finner to obtain the correct ratio, because is very easy to over grind fresh beans)
@Tom's Coffee Corner for me that was trial and error and to figure out that (i'm very newby espresso machine, and coffee in general) thanks! im gonna continuing seeing your videos, keep going.
In this video, we talk about the differences between good and and poor coffee. Freshness of the roast is the main factor here, but we also consider species, harvesting type, and roasting type.
Always helpful! The comparison at 4:44 let me speechless, huge difference! 😱
Glad to hear it, Gianluca! I wasn't sure if I should include that, or if it would be too boring. Thanks for your feedback. 👍
I've recently become passionate about good coffee and I've always wondered how to tell the difference between good and bad beans. Thank you for the video!
You betcha, Nikolay! Thanks for watching, and happy coffee drinking!
In each of your videos I learned more and more things ... you are a must!
Hi Tom, and thank you for another interesting video !
About the comparison of the two coffees : The roasting time is different : The "cheap" one is roasted longer.
You can check by yourself : If you buy a little amount of green coffee, put in a pot and roast it on the stove (and continuously steering).
After the first crack, (you will hear the beans cracking) the beans will become darker, shiny and oily.
Have a nice weekend ! 😎
Thanks for that info, Loys! As I understand it, the cheaper beans may be a darker roast, but could have been roasted more quickly, resulting in an uneven roast? Maybe someone can correct me here. Thanks for watching, and for your input! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes, roasting without steering the beans, has you said, on a conveyor belt so the top beans are well roasted and the bottom are light. I won't be surprised if this method is causing of a massive heat loss, though. 😂
Or, they just roast with a faulty machine that struggles to distribute heat evenly (have a broken arm/drum etc.)
Industrial roasting can be really accurate, when machines are well tuned, results are impressive !
@@Loys- I worked shortly at a coffee roastery. They had 2 newer drum machines, that I think did 200kg in 15 minutes. Being in the drum, the beans are turned and oscillated evenly. But on a conveyor belt, there will be much more inconsistency, I figure. Thanks for your input! Tom
Thanks Tom for the video - I seem to be stockpiling my coffee beans and not grinding and drinking them fast enough !!
You and me both! Thanks for watching, and cheers! ☕️ Tom
I'm gaining so much knowledge from you sir,had no idea.. thanks
Good information. Thanks.
You betcha, Scott! Thanks for watching!
I used to order beans from Kona, Hawaii, and they were good but very expensive. Then some deliveries were oily and the packaging valve was not working. I am wondering whether flying beans in a depressurized airplane hold can pull out the oils in a medium+ roast. Right now I am buying beans blended and roasted for boutique local coffee shops.
Interesting thoughts there, Tom. And it could be, that’s fine affects the pressure within the bag. Buying local is always fun, and a good way to support local businesses. 👍🏻
Learning so much from your videos. Muchas Gracias!
Very good informative video. Thank you!
Thank you for this video!
Good information and nice to watch...
Appreciate the kind words, Gerrit!
Hey tom, thank you very much for making such great videos. I ordered the santa luzia beans and every shot i got with my dedica and my eureka grinder was very sour. these beans are even better for filter coffee and not for espresso
Hey Marc, I have to agree with you. My shots were on the acidic side too, even at higher temperatures. Some beans are just like that though, and probably lend themselves better to making coffee. However, I found that these work nice for a latte macchiato. Thanks for your feedback! Tom
I have no idea if the beans I buy are good or bad it's all about the flavour. I found a brand San Francisco on Amazon and they are very cheap dark roast oily beams but I love them. I've had lighter roasted expensive beans and hated them. I think it depends on what you're used to. I grew up with Starbucks who always produce consistently tasting beans and are probably cheap quality, but the taste is always the same and I really like it.
Hi Gary, certainly dark roast beans can be high quality too. The main things to look out for are 1) how the beans are handled (are there lots of broken beans or not), and 2) how fresh is the roast. The rest is up to preference. I have not had the best luck yet with lightly roasted beans either, but those require different brew parameters. The Decent community has taken a deep dive into this area. Cheers, and thanks for watching!
Great content Tom. I'd love to try some new types of coffee. I've only started my coffee journey and just invested in a Gaggia Pro.
Sounds good, Simon! I’m sure you’ll have fun experimenting with your classic pro. 🤗
Great video as always Tom keep up the good work 👏🏽
Thanks Gunner, will do my best! Cheers, Tom
Very helpful und interesting video. Thank you, man!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for your content. I’m 51y and new to coffee and in love with espresso. I’m problem solving my Dedica Machine non pressure Portafilter. I’d Appreciate discovering some new coffee as I think it may be why I get no creama . Ty Tom
Cheryl
Hello Cheryl! Thanks for entering the contest! I hope that you get some good results with your Dedica. I have a Lotta videos about tips for getting the best out of this little machine, so check them out when you have some time. 🙋♂️ Tom
Long time fan! Have you considered getting the rancilio silvia?
Hey Saocir, I did have the Silvia, but it didn’t blow me away. I also prefer the looks of the GCP over the Sylvia.
Cheers! ☕️ Took
Hi Tom thanks for the Coffee Bean education…it all helps 👍🏻.Andrew
My pleasure, Andrew! Thanks for watching, and for the discourse!
Very informative video about the "real" core of what we are interested in, rather than just the mechanics :-)
Glad you liked it, Ian. Happy coffee drinking!
Tatsächlich bin ich gerade auch inmitten der Optimierungsphase.
Erster Versuch mit einer älteren, bereits angebrochenen Packung starker Röstung. Kaffee miserabel - die Druckanzeige der Maschine hat sich nicht vom Fleck bewegt. An das Erreichen der Optimal Zone war nicht zu denken. :)
Dann haben wir eine "frische" Packung Lavazza-Bohnen mittlerer Röstung gekauft und siehe da: Das Manometer zeigte einen Ausschlag bis auf ca. 10 Uhr. Noch immer nicht optimal aber immerhin eine Verbesserung.
Der letzte Test wird mit frisch gerösteten Bohnen (leichte Röstung) sein und ich bin gespannt auf das Ergebnis.
Hoert sich gut an! Nur du musst wissen, es kommt meistens weniger Crema bei leicht geroesteten Bohnen. Ich wuerde zu einem mittleren oder ein bisschen dunkleren Roestung, gemischt mit 20% Robusta raten. Schau mal den Dinzler Roma an. Der ist vollgeil: amzn.to/3O113h6
Great video thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching, Lucas!
Hi Tom, what roastery in Germany would you recommend? Maybe some particular beans for espresso that won't break the bank?
Hey Sergei, The most consistent high-quality Roastery I know is called Dinzler, but they are expensive. I used their Roma bean for some of my most recent videos, and they made perfect extractions.
Hey Tom, you didn't mention which beans you buy for yourself! is it the Santa Luzia?
Oh, it varies. Lately I have been buying this one: martermuehle.de/products/m-espresso
So clear examples!
It is educational and very good video.But i have question about the grind size - if its older the coffe should i grind it finer to get a bit better result?
Yes, older beans require a much finer grind. 👍🏻
@Great video, Tom :-)! I've found Santa Luzia Brazil on popular Polish Internet shop and plan to order it in June. For espresso I mainly use Italian Occaffe Espresso Classico. I've been using it for 3 years or so. I curious about Santa Luzia Brazil and also curious about the coffees you offer in your giveaway. I've registered already. I will try to jump in today's live stream. Cheers :-)! Bart
Hey Bart! It would be lovely to have you in the livestream, but it is not today, Sunday, but rather tomorrow, Monday at noon (also Polish time). Today is mother's day. 😉
Glad you found the Santa Luzia, and I wonder what you think of it. Just FYI, coffeefriend.de also sends to Poland, and the shipping is comparable to Germany. Plus there is the voucher for 25% off. So maybe that might be a more economical option.
Cheers!
Good video Tom, I live in one of the best coffee producers and have learnt something new with the video. The latest world baristas champions have used a re discover specie that was thought extinct, it is the mother of arabica. I haven’t try it as it is difficult to find and is much more expensive. The name is eugenoides if you want to know more
Hey Rincon! Thanks for commenting, and that is interesting to know about the eugenoides. Now that I have heard of the species, I can be sentient of it in the future, if I run across it. So you live in a coffee producing land?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner finally I could get an eugenoides bag but just 125gr. The notes according to the label are honey, prune, chamomile and floral. I tried one shot but couldn’t taste all those flavors… but for sure is quite different coffee of all coffees i have ever tasted. By the way it is caffeine low naturally
@@a.rincon2748 Haha, ok Rincon, well if it is low caffeine, then it is not the bean for me. ;) But I'd try it if I came across it, naturally. 👍
Great knowledge!!! Love it!!! ☕️👍🏽😎
Super Video , weiter so 😇😇😇
Great channel, keep it going, I'm a cooffee lover 🎉
Hey Tom thanks for the video , very interesting content and nicely summarized.
However it’s sad you didn’t include the degustation of the coffee at the end … it’s like missing the point.
That said, I really love your videos !
Hello! Thank you gor the video, i learn with you☺️
Sure thing! Please note the gleam.Io link up above. That will make things easier to organize.🙋♂️
I would love to try out the beans! I really like your videos about modding the dedica. :)
Hey DJ, check out the gleam.io link for registration. Thanks for your feedback!
Have you ever bought in coffee shops bulk beans inside glass cones? I've found them more usual than fixed quantity sizes: I think they are great to try and experiment but, at the same time, they scares me a bit: is it possible to have real traceability of roasting date and beans origin? Thank you
Sure, I have. I don't know how often these get refilled, but it must be often. I worked shortly at a roastery and coffee shop, and they had those containers, too. Freshness and correct storage was always important to the owner. Cheers!
My journey start with supermarket beans, now a buy directly to a producer, first two weeks the coffee is wet, after that is ready for use.
Thx for the video! today i had to throw away an awful so called medium roasted burnet oily market coffe.. From now on ill only buy fresh coffe as u recommended tyvm.
Nice! That is the most important part of the process. 😉
Great video Tom! I started too with supermarket coffee beans but even if I was lucky to find 'fresh' supermarket coffee beans ( substraction 2 years from the best before date ) still 1kg of beans were too much to stay fresh after opening them. So now I try to go to local coffee shops and buy fresh roasted and smaller packages. I dont know why I always have been a little sceptic about buying coffee online 🤔 do you think I should give a try?
Hey Enes, same exact path for me! Sometimes fresh supermarket beans will be good for a week, then drop off in quality quickly. I like to buy regionally, but sometimes I like to try something new, online. The Santa Luzia beans are very tasty. I think I will buy them for myself sometimes in the future. Cheers!
Will take a look at this coffee you have here and try it. I hope they have smaller bags, do you have a referal or sponsored link so I help you out just a little bit somehow.
@@enesvekshari4395 Thanks, Enes! Yes, this is a sponsored link, but until May 31st you can get any coffee at 25% off with this voucher. This is also in the description. 👍
🇩🇪 Santa Luzia Bohnen: bit.ly/3ymauBP (coffeefriend.de)
💸 Voucher for 25% off Beans: TOMSCC25 (good until May 31st, 2022)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you for thr voucher too. I have one last question if you dont mind. I cant see anywhere on the website the roasting date of the coffee beans, are they freshly roasted within days I order or do they have the same roast date for several packages?
@@enesvekshari4395 Good question. My bag says April 8th, and I got it a week ago. So I guess it was about 3 weeks from the roast date. But, you could write or call them to be sure. They have been a very responsible company to collaborate with, answering all my questions. Cheers! Tom
Is it true the cheaper coffee beans tend to be more darker roasted, the roasted flavour masks other flavours and aroma, gives the impression it's more consistent
That's pretty interesting. I suppose that does make sense. 🤔
Very good video, helpful, but I have to mention that crema is not a purpose or an indication of good taste coffee
Indication of freshness and level of roast, yes/maybe
Lately too much crema disturbes me, I want only a thin layer and that's all
Yes, you are right that crema does not necessarily have to do with bean quality. But is is an indicator of freshness, which is important in my eyes. Also, many people like the look, and mouthfeel of crema. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner off course we all like coffee porn, a naked extraction with a beautiful tiger stripping cone , it's always nice
I'd be down to try some new beans! Love your content Tom! Keep on brewing :)
Hey Charles, check out the gleam.io link for registration. Thanks for watching!
i have lavazza super crema and my shots are always dark and watery. I've weighed out 18g, i use the barista pro from breville i tamp it and use a controlled distributor. Nothing helps.
Hi there, please check out this Espresso Tips playlist: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html
Hi tom! I'm from Indonesian!
Interesting video! I would love to drink new coffee!
Sure thing! Please note the gleam.Io link up above. That will make things easier to organize.🙋♂️
Yes. Youre right
Thx for the cool video. Of course I would be happy for the give away coffee beans 😊
Thanks, Niklas!
Enter the coffee giveaway here! gleam.io/hxTNa/coffee-friend-coffee-sampler-giveaway
Please may I have the the chance to win as I’m very new to using coffee beans and I need a samples
just 1 thing: the old beans are more "hard" and the grinder has to have different grade.... because is different to grind those... so, need to be more finner than a fresh beans (fresh = less finner to obtain the correct ratio, because is very easy to over grind fresh beans)
That's true, Diego! On my Specialita, I ground the fresh beans at +1.0, and the old beans at -0.5. To at least give them a fair chance.
@Tom's Coffee Corner for me that was trial and error and to figure out that (i'm very newby espresso machine, and coffee in general) thanks! im gonna continuing seeing your videos, keep going.
Don't have much to say, just wanted to enter the giveaway. Thanks :)
Free coffee!
Almost as good as free beer!
So I am writing this comments to win COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Sure, I'll comment and hope to win. :)
Free coffee 😅
Im really not sure where to get these imaginary beans that dont seem to exist in the real world.
Local roaster. :)