Sauron was right though. Frodo himself succumbed and wanted to keep the one ring. The ring itself was only ACCIDENTALLY destroyed when Gollum was dancing and jumping for joy, then slipped off the side falling into the fires of Mt. Doom.
@therealfakeAlphabet what a weird comment. Yeah in the meta of book writing it wasn't an accident it was well planned by the writer. But in the fictional world it was an accident. Nobody chose to destroy the ring is the point
The concept of how Sauron thought that anyone who had the ring would not be stupid enough to destroy it was also my first thought when I saw your title.
Mount Doom may have been a very private, personal, and even divine place for Sauron, considering the volcano is of Melkor's work. He did not want to have that place crowded with orcs
No sentient being who understood power could carry the ring or the ringbearer. That's why Frodo and Sam had to do it. Frodo could carry the ring, he has no idea or dreams of power while Sam could only think of gardening, Rosie, and Frodo. However, the Eagles most definitely imagine power so the Eagles were disqualified and it's also the reason why Frodo and Sam had to leave the Fellowship behind...Boromir, a hero, already proved this when he was tempted. For a similar reason, the Ring left Gollum because all Gollum wanted was to keep the Ring and eat stuff, which is very bad for the Ring because he would not only keep it and keep it hidden, his unnaturally extended life from the Ring would mean that the Ring's "imprisonment" under Gollum would also be extended.
I think your first reason is persuasive. The second is well used, but for me it always fails from what we're told specifically that Sauron considered the Ring lost or destroyed by elves. Although this is also problematic... if Sauron only retains life force because the Ring exists, how could he have thought it destroyed? The problem with the argument about the Eagles is that they were literally there, at the end. And they could have been "in the area" countless times. As soon as the Ring was revealed to Sauron at Mt Doom, he dispatched his Nazgul on winged beasts. But when the Nazgul were abroad, or before they got winged rides, how would Sauron have mobilised a response to the Eagles (even a single eagle) in time? What ever arguments there are against the Eagles, i don't think this is a good one...
Sauron could never conceive of anyone holding the ring being willing to destroy it-and he was right. The reality is that no one would’ve been able to throw it into the crack of doom. The only way it happened was through the intervention of Eru in causing gollum to slip during his capering with the ring and fall to his (and the ring’s) doom.
One does not simply walk into Mordor. Seriously, how many tourists/ringbearers has Sauron had show up ever since he moved into the region millennia earlier? Also, can you imagine losing the keys when you need them and having to search Barad-dur from top to bottom? Nobody would have heard from Sauron again until the Sixth or Seventh Ages!
I love the story as written……but let’s be real. The eagles solve everything. lol You are correct, they are the equivalent of airplanes…. blitzing a 16th century polish village. They would be unbeatable, undetectable and undeniable in a stealth mission to Mt Doom. Nothing in middle earth (with the exception of a dragon…..) would even have the speed to fathom what had happened until it was done. But I like Tolkien’s version better anyway
He could still have put a few guards there just incase. I don't really buy the reasoning. His existence was tied to the ring and he left the one thing that could destroy is unguarded.
The whole of Mordor was guarded. If you ever see the vault of a bank, you may notice that the rooms are locked but not the deposit boxes. The place was also hostile to all life, including orcs, so you'd need several rotations per day. Also, it's conceivable that Sauron considered this place to be very private and significant to him and therefore did not want to have it defiled by orcs (and the Ringwraiths were needed elsewhere). It may even hold a sacred meaning to him, as Mount Doom was created by Morgoth's actions.
The real reason why they did not use the Eagles is that the story would have been very short. Mordor simply did not have the air force to stop the Eagles even if they saw them coming.
I wish y’all came up with better subjects. There’s a million other videos already on this particular title 💯 still love your content tho but yall can do a lot better
@@middleearthtalesI'd like to see a video on the subject of what Sam's relative Hal saw. You recall that Sam said Hal saw a walking tree. Do we think it could have been an Ent, or maybe an Entwife? Treebeard said he thought the Entwives would like the Shire, after hearing Merry and Pippin's description of It!
Sauron was right though. Frodo himself succumbed and wanted to keep the one ring. The ring itself was only ACCIDENTALLY destroyed when Gollum was dancing and jumping for joy, then slipped off the side falling into the fires of Mt. Doom.
It wasn't an accident. Tolkien took pains to set up Gollum's fate and the final role he would play in the entire saga concerning the ring.
Gollum swore on the ring that he would not double cross frodo. The ring held him to his treachery, to its own demise
The ring cursed itself to fall into the fire: ruclips.net/video/UE6we0VZ-gI/видео.html
@therealfakeAlphabet what a weird comment. Yeah in the meta of book writing it wasn't an accident it was well planned by the writer. But in the fictional world it was an accident. Nobody chose to destroy the ring is the point
The concept of how Sauron thought that anyone who had the ring would not be stupid enough to destroy it was also my first thought when I saw your title.
Hello mate, could you make a video about how Saruman corrupted Theoden?
Mount Doom may have been a very private, personal, and even divine place for Sauron, considering the volcano is of Melkor's work. He did not want to have that place crowded with orcs
After all the effort he went to, and good points made, it’s laziness by Sauron not to stick a quick magic door on the Mount doom entrance.
No sentient being who understood power could carry the ring or the ringbearer. That's why Frodo and Sam had to do it. Frodo could carry the ring, he has no idea or dreams of power while Sam could only think of gardening, Rosie, and Frodo. However, the Eagles most definitely imagine power so the Eagles were disqualified and it's also the reason why Frodo and Sam had to leave the Fellowship behind...Boromir, a hero, already proved this when he was tempted.
For a similar reason, the Ring left Gollum because all Gollum wanted was to keep the Ring and eat stuff, which is very bad for the Ring because he would not only keep it and keep it hidden, his unnaturally extended life from the Ring would mean that the Ring's "imprisonment" under Gollum would also be extended.
I think your first reason is persuasive. The second is well used, but for me it always fails from what we're told specifically that Sauron considered the Ring lost or destroyed by elves. Although this is also problematic... if Sauron only retains life force because the Ring exists, how could he have thought it destroyed? The problem with the argument about the Eagles is that they were literally there, at the end. And they could have been "in the area" countless times. As soon as the Ring was revealed to Sauron at Mt Doom, he dispatched his Nazgul on winged beasts. But when the Nazgul were abroad, or before they got winged rides, how would Sauron have mobilised a response to the Eagles (even a single eagle) in time? What ever arguments there are against the Eagles, i don't think this is a good one...
You bring up several excellent points and on that note I'd be interested in why Sauron didn't discover the ring in the poession of Gollum
Plain and simple, Sauron didn't think anyone would desire to destroy The One Ring; let alone have the testicular fortitude to do so
Love your videos
Why does sauron not sense Samwise putting on the ring after he thought shelob killed Frodo????
Sauron generally does not sense when people put on the Ring. But he can sense a challenge to his ownership of the ring
Sauron could never conceive of anyone holding the ring being willing to destroy it-and he was right.
The reality is that no one would’ve been able to throw it into the crack of doom. The only way it happened was through the intervention of Eru in causing gollum to slip during his capering with the ring and fall to his (and the ring’s) doom.
I love how he says, Achilles.
Fake AI voices be artificial.
Your content rivals Nerd of the Rings and In Deep Geek. Very well done. By far one of the best LOTR channel. Keep it up Dragon 💪
thank you! it is an honor to be mentioned with these channels.
Except for the painful AI voice over.
What was Sauron hoarding Mithril for? Full suit of invincible armor once he reclaimed the ring?
One does not simply walk into Mordor. Seriously, how many tourists/ringbearers has Sauron had show up ever since he moved into the region millennia earlier? Also, can you imagine losing the keys when you need them and having to search Barad-dur from top to bottom? Nobody would have heard from Sauron again until the Sixth or Seventh Ages!
The same reason a flag isn't guarded in the courtyard of a prison compound. It's not really considered necessary.
Ack-ill-ees.
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Fake AI voices be artificial.
I love the story as written……but let’s be real. The eagles solve everything. lol
You are correct, they are the equivalent of airplanes…. blitzing a 16th century polish village. They would be unbeatable, undetectable and undeniable in a stealth mission to Mt Doom. Nothing in middle earth (with the exception of a dragon…..) would even have the speed to fathom what had happened until it was done. But I like Tolkien’s version better anyway
The eagles are sentient beings though meaning they are also going to have a pull of desire of the rings.
He could still have put a few guards there just incase. I don't really buy the reasoning. His existence was tied to the ring and he left the one thing that could destroy is unguarded.
The whole of Mordor was guarded. If you ever see the vault of a bank, you may notice that the rooms are locked but not the deposit boxes. The place was also hostile to all life, including orcs, so you'd need several rotations per day. Also, it's conceivable that Sauron considered this place to be very private and significant to him and therefore did not want to have it defiled by orcs (and the Ringwraiths were needed elsewhere). It may even hold a sacred meaning to him, as Mount Doom was created by Morgoth's actions.
The real reason why they did not use the Eagles is that the story would have been very short. Mordor simply did not have the air force to stop the Eagles even if they saw them coming.
that one way to look at it.......................... you probably right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But what if the Eagles fell to the power of the ring?
Or at least cave in the entrance. Did sentimentalism do Sauron in. Go figure.
It was protected they had to sneak in and Gondor attacked the black gate to draw the guarding forces away
The eagle thing is just one more idiotic blunder by family guy and its writers.😂😂😂
Because that would ruin the story.
It wouldnt work lol, eagles would also be effected by one ring
I wish y’all came up with better subjects. There’s a million other videos already on this particular title 💯 still love your content tho but yall can do a lot better
I am open to suggestions!
@@middleearthtalesI'd like to see a video on the subject of what Sam's relative Hal saw. You recall that Sam said Hal saw a walking tree. Do we think it could have been an Ent, or maybe an Entwife? Treebeard said he thought the Entwives would like the Shire, after hearing Merry and Pippin's description of It!
@@denniscattell Yes, entwives is on my list. I'm working on it. :)
These videos are akin to "If the bullfrog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass." I couldn't possibly care less. And no, I didn't watch the video.