The price jump from 4070S to 4070STi is absolutely ridiculous... for 12fps?? and 4 more gigs of Vram?? Dude come on now. Vram isnt expensive to be marking it up $200 more.
@@KDYinRUclipsa 4070 super is $600, ti super is $800. Not quite double, even a 4080 super is $999. Double the price of a 4070 is actually getting closer to 4090 range now lol.
@@peytonleehagens123 Btw prices are different in other countries, those are just the prices Nvidia recommends the manufacturers as it's called MSRP or Manufacturer's suggested retail price
It's the best value for now sure, but ngreedia is pulling a gotcha when all of a sudden 12gb is the limiting factor. The mid tier best value cards are their real money makers cuz thats the level where they know people will upgrade the most frequently.
12GB is not an issue if you don't play crazy game like Alen and 4K max graphic and running AI models. Most online games can play 4K 60+ FPS easily@@0xBULLgogi
Memory bus width and VRAM will not age will regardless. NVIDIA WANTS consumers to buy the 4070S so they feel incentivized to buy another 4070S equivalent next gen, and then the gen after that. This tier of card will always have less of a feature set. Look at the 3070, its not aging well imo. It's their money maker, its the tier where they know that consumers will most likely upgrade every generation instead of every other. @@NamTran-xc2ip
@@NamTran-xc2ip When 5000 series launch nvidia will make 16GB as standard and all 12 gigs cards will start giving you pain even at 1440p. My prediction.
Some games really play just above 60 FPS, with a $600 GPU (4070S). In 2024, where the new refresh rate standard of monitors is 144hz. Says a lot about how shitty some developing studios are. Pay zero importance to optimization. Only care about deploying the game to production.
yep its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance.
Yep been saying the same for ages. Now there's even 500hz monitors but the games are still stuck at 60fps - 60hz. Thats why I rather play at optimized settings where you don't really lose much visual 'value' and play at 90/100 FPS.
This is not true. Yes, some games play just above 60fps WHEN playing at ultra settings and maxed Ray Tracing / Path Tracing. Optimization is very important, but it's not something magical that is going to make some of these games graphically intensive games at high frame rates with every graphical setting cranked up. Alan Wake 2 is a very well optimized, that doesn't mean it won't destroy mid and low tier GPUs with something as heavy as Path Tracing enabled.
I think it not only has to do with shitty optimization but also them trying to pack as much detail as possible, ray tracing, higher polygon count and with pretty realistic graphics will also force Gpus to their knees. Honestly dynamic graphics would be a game changer as you can admire the beauty of a game when the game is slow but when action starts to pick up the graphics adjust.
Some game are meaningless if played on high refresh rate. Slow, methodical games such as Hogwarts or Alan Wake 2, you don't need more than 60fps. It's pointless. Why in the world would you need 144fps while playing Alan Wake 2.
Ridiculous, perfs have absolutely never been proportional to the sell price among any generation. If someone has the money for a better gpu, he will buy it, even if the perf/price ratio is not as good.
It's not about the price per performance, for you as a gamer it's about which resolution do you wanna play, 4K, 2K, or FHD, which quality and do you need RT on? And how much PFS is enough for you, if your budget can afford your needs you will purchase it even if it is expensive.
4070 is 530 dollars which is over priced, then there is the 4080 super that is nearly the double of that for not even 1.5 times more performance. what are these pricings man?
I’m sorry but 500-600 more dollars for a 20 frame difference is beyond crazy lol. Even for 4k gaming. We’re talking about less than 5 percent of games it would matter for especially with optimized settings. Most 4k games you barely gonna get over 100 frames anyways unless you have a 4090 so it’s kinda pointless. Better off saving the diff and upgrading 50 series next year. 4070 super def seems best choice of the options.
RTX 4070ti Super seems to be the best bang for the buck. Plus, this card is more efficient and cooler than the other cards. I'm leaning towards this card pretty heavily.
@@you0611 £100 upfront followed by 24 months of £30, but i can pay more early and pay no interest so its literally just taking the exact amount for the card and splitting it into monthly payments. 100 a month for 10 months and its paid off within the year
What's wrong with charging a high price for the fastest gaming GPU on the planet? It's the prices of their mid range GPUs you should be complaining about.
Yes. 4090 is the only RT capable card. Sad its only capable with dlss performance which basically 1080p rendering. Jensen 1080p 2100$ gaming era is insane 😂🤣🤦♂️.
Cant imagine what the 50 series are gonna cost. These GPU can barely push these new games at decent frames. Whats the point of high refresh 4k monitors when these can't even max out a 2k monitors with high refresh.
Yeah. It’s scary that even the 4090 doesn’t do super impressive fps at 4K in these games. That could mean it wouldn’t be sufficient in a few years. The 5090 could be a step up. But I fear it could be $3000. The only savior could be a fast development of upscaling and stuff.
No matter how powerful the next generation GPUs are, they will still fall before the terrible optimization of new generation games, honestly new games now are like a long demo several years before it's real. such perfection
@@PaintrainX its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance.
Hi i am looking to buy 4070TS and i would like to ask you,if i may, how is the experience like in that card... Do you gey any stutters. Do you use addons like pmdg 737,fenix 320 or some complex airports? Do you use frame gen and dlls. If you does is the look of the game any worse. Thank you very much 🙏
There is no reason that Starfield's results should be so much lower than RDR2 or Cyberpunk 2077's at comparable settings. Other than Starfield's optimisation and game engine is garbage.
My RTX 4080 Mobile overclocked (2670 mhz (+250 mhz) gpu core and 10250mhz on memory (+1250mhzz) + undervolted i9 13980HX (-185mv p-cores and e-cores and -100 ring and l2 cache) has same level of performance as the RTX 4070 Super.
I guess Nvidia didn't realize what they were introducing as the 4070s, because everything else now looks like a super expensive piece of crap. 4060 looks terrible too.
its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance. I cant believe guys like you are so blind to it go play with setting in some of these games and you will see there can often be a few of them that does nothing for the game visually and cost a tone of performance these cards are not weak.
В общем, RTX 4070 Super на данный момент самая выгодная видюха. Цена/производительность лучше, чем у 4060 и 12 GB даст возможность играть в большую часть игр в разрешении QHD, а производительность почти гарантирует 60+ кадров + лучи при DLSS-Q. 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 6000-6400 Mhz CL30-32 2x16 GB отличная сборка за ~1500$.
your tests are so inconsistent. some with DLSS on, some without. some with ray tracing on, some without. it's a crucial setting that affects framerate significantly and is more telling of the GPU's actual performance if it's left off. i'd like to see these tests expanded with both RT and DLSS toggled between games.
@@GandalfGreybeard Thanks for the info. I do have a Quest 3. This would be my first PC, but I heard the RTX 5000 series is coming soon. So I don’t know if to wait longer or to go for the 4070 ti super and then upgrade in the future.
It's impossible, it would need a 320 bits bus which does not exist in any 4000 gpus. AD102 has 384 bits, which gives 24GB, AD 103 has 256 bits, which gives 16GB. simple as that. Second, nvidia drivers give an nVram consumption that is around 15% lower than AMD, so the VRAM need for nVidia gpu is lower than on AMD
@@fabricejaouen378Its no use for you to talk to a tech illiterate like him, no matter what you said he won't get it and only cares about "it needs 20gb!!"
Hey does anyone know if a 700 watt power supply with 2 separate 12volt with pigtails will work with a 4080 or should i get the 4070ti super? I have 4070 plan in my pc right now.
Hab die "normale 4080 jetzt 1 Jahr. Im Vergleich zur 7900 lebt sie vom Raytracing ! Wird das aktiviert - ist sie brutal besser ! Ist so ! Ich wurde beim Zocken auch nicht zu UHD raten. Man sieht zu WQHD meiner Meinung nach keinen krassen Unterschied Auch nicht bei Cyberpunk. Dafür könnt ihr auf WQHD dann ALLES auf Ultra stellen - was wirklich geil ist ! Hab auch das DLSS - also die KI-Bildverbesserung der 4080 in Cyberpunk auf Ultra Qualität gesetzt Perfekt für diese Karte ist meiner Meinung nach ein fetter WQHD-Monitor mit 144 HZ. Dann alle Einstellungen auf Ultra - und es läuft mit stabil mit 92 Frames ! Ladet dazu dann noch GPU Tweak 3 zum tunen der Karte runter. Meine Einstellung: Power Target: 110% CPU Spannung + 27% GPU Takt: 2740 Speichertakt: 22845 Lüfter: Auto evtl. ist noch ein Klick mehr drin - kommt immer auf die Karte an. Aber damit holt ihr Cyberpunk - alles auf Ultra - mit der 4080 von 92 auf bis zu 101 Frames. Mein geliebtes altes Far Cry 5 push ich mit diesen Einstellungen ( und Ultra ) von 89 auf 128 Frames. Viel Spaß :-)
@@slayeddreamer3820 i want to build my 1st pc. I was thinking to go with a ryzen 7 7800X3D and a 4070 super for 1440p gaming. I want a 2560X1440, 24.5inch and 240hz monitor. I want to keep this build for at least 5 years. Is it good?
Games that are high specs like alan wake 2 and avatar won't have high play rates. Developer should at least design a game playable with 60fps mininally 1440p with a mid range gpu in mind. Less than 10% of the ppl will wanna pay for 4080 super pricing even though is cheaper nw but still pricey to the majority.
I have a 4070 super and in Hogwarts legacy I get 70 FPS on average on 1440 P high settings with Ray tracing how was he only getting 49 to 50 FPS he’s got a better processor than me
Dude, if I get a 4070ts, will it be enough for the next few years with 1440p quality, or should I wait until the 50 series comes?@@iikatinggangsengii2471
@@notenjoying666 Yes it does. Some 7900XTX models still sell more than that. Besides even if they're all under 1000$ they still get destroyed in Alan Wake 2. Fanboyism keeps you from seeing the facts, you need help.
Uh these number are garbage. Do not trust this channel. I have a 4070s /12700k and in hogwarts legacy at 1440p. You should be getting around 90-100fps. Not sure how your geting only 60. You straight lying about these numbers And the same thing with forza. Hell, even At 4k im getting around 100. Checked your number against other, actually creditable, reviewers, and their numbers are closer to what im getting. You are doing something really wrong or you misleading to upsell people with your affiliate links.
because they have Ray Tracing turned on, but don't turn on DLSS. i agree this channels' testing methods are reallyyyyy bad at being honest about GPU performance.
@sunneltakes I had it on also. Like I matched his settings exactly in both games I mentioned. His fps are still way too low. I'm even using ddr4.not that it actually makes a difference.
@@hiphoppop45 and DLSS on as well? Not sure how the channels FPS was low, it's odd, but maybe the recording method is affecting framerate as well, as I know sometimes it can reduce FPS depending on how they're recording the gameplay.
It scrazy that its 30 to 40fps more on average while being bottlenekced you wrre onpy getting 80% gpu utilization with the 4080 super on sverage in mictosoft simulator.
Take it from someone with a 4070 super and a 4080 super. The 4080 super is worth it for anybody gaminf at 1440p ultra or 4k. I mean its 20 to 50fps gains deprnding on the game. Like at the end 40fps in horizon. Im a sim racer games like acc gave me massive massive 40fps boosts. So yeah man its worth it. When im sitting here getting 130fps in 4k on acc im like yeah thats def nicer then the 88fps I was getting. Still good but man what a monster gpu.
4070 super good but should have 16gb vram 4070 ti super best one in this super gpus 16gb vram also +10% performance 4080 super worst upgrade ever it's not iven super same 4080 1-2fps diference really bad gpu at least thay give 20gb vram but no
Wait for a year or so, and get myself a brand new RTX 5090 TI Super/RX 8900XTX with no less than 24 GB GRam, btw, RTX 4070Ti Super makes no sense and 4070 good for price but not good for 4K with RT on
the 5090/5090ti is gonna cost an arm and a leg, rn the 7900xtx has 24gb of vram. the 4070/4070 super is the only card rlly worth buying in the 4000 series, 4080 supers arent msrp now
Well I was waiting from the 3000 series as I was broke😑. If there are any leaks we get in 2 months then I might change my decision. 🙂 Btw, I was deciding to buy a 4070S but due to the vram I was trying to avoid it and deciding to go for TiS, just for vram. I need for my workstation programs so no amd at all:( I wanted of amd one only tbh.
@@arduinocoder247 “Rumor” has it that 50 series will come out the end of 2024. But “personally” I think 40 series is a huge improvement from 30 series. So the 50 might come with a small performance upgrade only. But that is just “personal” thought (IDK). But you still can wait for the 50 series if you have a 30 series card already.
@@arduinocoder247 Haha then just get a 40 I think. You don’t have to wait. Though many people say that 50 has DP 2.1 but I think 1.4 is enough nowadays. Just get the 40 now don’t have to wait for another year to get the 50.
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Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 4:24
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Starfield - 6:16
Forza Horizon 5 - 7:16 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
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Please try Max Payne 3 multiplayer, it's so fun and still played.
Why didn't you do 4K? 1440P is not enough.
The price jump from 4070S to 4070STi is absolutely ridiculous... for 12fps?? and 4 more gigs of Vram?? Dude come on now. Vram isnt expensive to be marking it up $200 more.
4070 TI Super is the best value especially in 2-3 years when 12gb won't be enough
in me here, 4070 ti super is 2 times money of 4070 super
@@KDYinRUclips here in Pakistan a 4070 super costs $750
@@KDYinRUclipsa 4070 super is $600, ti super is $800. Not quite double, even a 4080 super is $999. Double the price of a 4070 is actually getting closer to 4090 range now lol.
@@peytonleehagens123 Btw prices are different in other countries, those are just the prices Nvidia recommends the manufacturers as it's called MSRP or Manufacturer's suggested retail price
4090 suck
4070 Super is the best value now.
It's the best value for now sure, but ngreedia is pulling a gotcha when all of a sudden 12gb is the limiting factor. The mid tier best value cards are their real money makers cuz thats the level where they know people will upgrade the most frequently.
12GB is not an issue if you don't play crazy game like Alen and 4K max graphic and running AI models. Most online games can play 4K 60+ FPS easily@@0xBULLgogi
@@0xBULLgogiVRAM is only a problem in shitty ports like TLOU and Jedi Survivors. And if you want to go 4k Pathtracing.
Memory bus width and VRAM will not age will regardless. NVIDIA WANTS consumers to buy the 4070S so they feel incentivized to buy another 4070S equivalent next gen, and then the gen after that. This tier of card will always have less of a feature set. Look at the 3070, its not aging well imo. It's their money maker, its the tier where they know that consumers will most likely upgrade every generation instead of every other. @@NamTran-xc2ip
@@NamTran-xc2ip When 5000 series launch nvidia will make 16GB as standard and all 12 gigs cards will start giving you pain even at 1440p. My prediction.
With Alan Wake 2 and RTX 4070 S, I got a similar result on an i5 12400F processor. Maybe someone will find this information useful.
thx men
use high preset and dlss frame generation
Thanks man
I am from Brazil and have same specs
Some games really play just above 60 FPS, with a $600 GPU (4070S). In 2024, where the new refresh rate standard of monitors is 144hz. Says a lot about how shitty some developing studios are. Pay zero importance to optimization. Only care about deploying the game to production.
yep its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance.
Yep been saying the same for ages. Now there's even 500hz monitors but the games are still stuck at 60fps - 60hz.
Thats why I rather play at optimized settings where you don't really lose much visual 'value' and play at 90/100 FPS.
This is not true. Yes, some games play just above 60fps WHEN playing at ultra settings and maxed Ray Tracing / Path Tracing. Optimization is very important, but it's not something magical that is going to make some of these games graphically intensive games at high frame rates with every graphical setting cranked up. Alan Wake 2 is a very well optimized, that doesn't mean it won't destroy mid and low tier GPUs with something as heavy as Path Tracing enabled.
I think it not only has to do with shitty optimization but also them trying to pack as much detail as possible, ray tracing, higher polygon count and with pretty realistic graphics will also force Gpus to their knees. Honestly dynamic graphics would be a game changer as you can admire the beauty of a game when the game is slow but when action starts to pick up the graphics adjust.
Some game are meaningless if played on high refresh rate. Slow, methodical games such as Hogwarts or Alan Wake 2, you don't need more than 60fps. It's pointless. Why in the world would you need 144fps while playing Alan Wake 2.
4080s costs roughly 30% more than the 4070TiS but only offers about 15% more performance. Not worth it imo
its normal that prices go up exponentially to performance
Ridiculous, perfs have absolutely never been proportional to the sell price among any generation. If someone has the money for a better gpu, he will buy it, even if the perf/price ratio is not as good.
Not worth it to you. Everyone has different utility curves and disposable income.
Ratio don't give accurate meanings
Like if you look from rtx 4080 S perspective 4070ti S is 20% less expensive and 20% less performing
It's not about the price per performance, for you as a gamer it's about which resolution do you wanna play, 4K, 2K, or FHD, which quality and do you need RT on? And how much PFS is enough for you, if your budget can afford your needs you will purchase it even if it is expensive.
Focus on Low 1%.... I just ordered 4070TS
4070 is 530 dollars which is over priced, then there is the 4080 super that is nearly the double of that for not even 1.5 times more performance. what are these pricings man?
Gotta point
how old are you man
@loucipher7782 19
Well they are all three more powerful than my 1080ti anyway 😂😂😂
what tree
im gonna make the switch from a 1080ti to a 4070ti super in a week or so.. kinda excited :))
@@haidora9321 как впечатления от покупки? думаю поменять свою 2070S на 4070S или 4070TS :)
bruh - you should see my Intel 630 score lol
I'm switching from a 1650 to 4070 S so definitely it's gonna be 5x powerful lol
RTX 4070 SUPER: $600, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER: 4GB+ VRAM and more 12FPS on average $800, RTX 4080 SUPER: only about 12FPS more on average $1000
Why do you guys just care about games? Make some render with these cards and you will see how they are deserving their price.
@@mertaniy You care about graphic design, we care about gaming
@@AdaptacionGamerThan Just Get Amd Cards ✅
I’m sorry but 500-600 more dollars for a 20 frame difference is beyond crazy lol. Even for 4k gaming. We’re talking about less than 5 percent of games it would matter for especially with optimized settings. Most 4k games you barely gonna get over 100 frames anyways unless you have a 4090 so it’s kinda pointless. Better off saving the diff and upgrading 50 series next year. 4070 super def seems best choice of the options.
RTX 4070ti Super seems to be the best bang for the buck. Plus, this card is more efficient and cooler than the other cards. I'm leaning towards this card pretty heavily.
ordered my 4080 super today, cant wait to get it, upgrading from the 1080 Ti
how much cost ?
@@you0611 £999 but im only paying £30 a month for it
@@you0611 £100 upfront followed by 24 months of £30, but i can pay more early and pay no interest so its literally just taking the exact amount for the card and splitting it into monthly payments. 100 a month for 10 months and its paid off within the year
What a crazy jump haha have fun
Hogwarts and Avatar makes 4080S 2K card lmao. How Unfortunate.
Guess 4090 is the most legit card from 40 series, but damn its pricing man. Ngreedia.
What's wrong with charging a high price for the fastest gaming GPU on the planet? It's the prices of their mid range GPUs you should be complaining about.
Yes. 4090 is the only RT capable card. Sad its only capable with dlss performance which basically 1080p rendering. Jensen 1080p 2100$ gaming era is insane 😂🤣🤦♂️.
@@EarthIsFlat456 he just showed surprise of the price, where you find out he is complaining?
@@KDYinRUclips Where did you learn English? You need to learn it again.
Cant imagine what the 50 series are gonna cost. These GPU can barely push these new games at decent frames. Whats the point of high refresh 4k monitors when these can't even max out a 2k monitors with high refresh.
Yeah. It’s scary that even the 4090 doesn’t do super impressive fps at 4K in these games. That could mean it wouldn’t be sufficient in a few years. The 5090 could be a step up. But I fear it could be $3000. The only savior could be a fast development of upscaling and stuff.
The games are unoptimized garbage that's why.
No matter how powerful the next generation GPUs are, they will still fall before the terrible optimization of new generation games, honestly new games now are like a long demo several years before it's real. such perfection
@@sideswapper6718 Perfect example is GTA IV. Look how long it took for people to start fixing that game, just recently, and it's been out forever!
@@PaintrainX its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance.
Congrats for 500k subs 🎉
Damn.. only a 7fps difference in msfs. Good thing I went for the 4070 TI S instead of the 4080S.
Hi i am looking to buy 4070TS and i would like to ask you,if i may, how is the experience like in that card... Do you gey any stutters. Do you use addons like pmdg 737,fenix 320 or some complex airports? Do you use frame gen and dlls. If you does is the look of the game any worse. Thank you very much 🙏
There is no reason that Starfield's results should be so much lower than RDR2 or Cyberpunk 2077's at comparable settings.
Other than Starfield's optimisation and game engine is garbage.
I mean Stanfield is just garbage all around so it's fitting.
Creation engine isn't the best when it comes to good optimization.
Only 4070 super makes sense
Only 4080 super makes sense
@@JoeGamer500 A fail, expensive map
I upgraded from a 4070ti to a 4090. It made sense.
Just Vram makes nosense
Only 4080/s because more efficient and much better. But i every buy used gpus. 2/3 years waiting and 4080 on my country selling about 500$
oke i’m going for a 4080s.
Should be a massive upgrade from my ol 3070
My RTX 4080 Mobile overclocked (2670 mhz (+250 mhz) gpu core and 10250mhz on memory (+1250mhzz) + undervolted i9 13980HX (-185mv p-cores and e-cores and -100 ring and l2 cache) has same level of performance as the RTX 4070 Super.
Nice bro
4070 super is the best option for your day, for 2k resolution
у тебя говно на аватарке прилипло
ja ich brauch aber 1080p
I guess Nvidia didn't realize what they were introducing as the 4070s, because everything else now looks like a super expensive piece of crap.
4060 looks terrible too.
its not the hardware the hardware is powerful but the devs try to push every ounce of performance out of high end hardware for graphics and basically over bloat games with stuff that don't even make much of a visual difference I cant tell you how many times i turned a setting down on my old gpu to get more performance and in game i couldn't even see a difference but i got more performance. I cant believe guys like you are so blind to it go play with setting in some of these games and you will see there can often be a few of them that does nothing for the game visually and cost a tone of performance these cards are not weak.
@@davidfrazier6308 🎯
*6:40** 😂 LOL you will pay for +200$ for every +10fps in the 144hz+ era!*
And can't get 100-120fps 🗿🤣
Am happy with my 4070s.
No way a 4080s for me. Its double the price.
If the 4070TI Super was cheaper then I would of went for that one.
В общем, RTX 4070 Super на данный момент самая выгодная видюха. Цена/производительность лучше, чем у 4060 и 12 GB даст возможность играть в большую часть игр в разрешении QHD, а производительность почти гарантирует 60+ кадров + лучи при DLSS-Q. 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 6000-6400 Mhz CL30-32 2x16 GB отличная сборка за ~1500$.
What is the hardware monitoring SW you're using?. MSI afterburner does not show nearly as much info, neither CPU-GPU names
Description says 1400p lol. Thx for benchmark
yes, 2K test
@@AdaptacionGamer no I meant that it said 1400p instead of 1440p. But he fixed it now
@@AdaptacionGamer 1440p is not 2k though
your tests are so inconsistent. some with DLSS on, some without. some with ray tracing on, some without. it's a crucial setting that affects framerate significantly and is more telling of the GPU's actual performance if it's left off. i'd like to see these tests expanded with both RT and DLSS toggled between games.
Very similar performance, 4070s looks here great for 600 bucks
my i7-14700kf paired with rtx 4070s gives me 160fps in hogwarts legacy at 144p. How are you getting so low?
Do it in 4K now, please
Love your videos
Do you know what GPU do you recommend for Flight Sim in VR on ultra settings? 4070 super or 4070 ti super and Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU
@@GandalfGreybeard Thanks for the info. I do have a Quest 3. This would be my first PC, but I heard the RTX 5000 series is coming soon. So I don’t know if to wait longer or to go for the 4070 ti super and then upgrade in the future.
Or thinking to just go with 7900xtx
How ridiculous are the graphics system requirements for this game...
why the hell are you testing game with resolution scaling?
in my country the 4070 ti super makes no sence since its 300 euros more expensive than a 4070 super and 200 euros cheaper than a 4080 super
4070TS is a nice middle
In msfs, please set lod at minimum, or show developer mode fps counter, you may be limited by "main thread"
I'm scared to spend my money already, especially in the GPU market
Can you please test these cards with the Ryzen 5 7600X? I think it's a processor a lot of gamers get with a beefy GPU. Thanks for all your work!
O desempenho será bastante semelhante ao que você viu neste vídeo.
The 7600X is enough for any of this cards
4080S should have been 20gb
It's impossible, it would need a 320 bits bus which does not exist in any 4000 gpus. AD102 has 384 bits, which gives 24GB, AD 103 has 256 bits, which gives 16GB. simple as that.
Second, nvidia drivers give an nVram consumption that is around 15% lower than AMD, so the VRAM need for nVidia gpu is lower than on AMD
@@fabricejaouen378 4080/S's rival 7900xtx has 24gb vram, 8gb difference. 4070/S's rival 7800xt has 16gb vram, 4gb difference. 4060's rival 7600xt has 16gb vram, 8gb difference. 4060ti's rival 7700xt has 12gb vram, 4gb difference. Not to mention the price and performance difference.
@@fabricejaouen378Its no use for you to talk to a tech illiterate like him, no matter what you said he won't get it and only cares about "it needs 20gb!!"
@@Cyseaadude how old are you kid ?
@@Eleganttf2 The price, power and vram of Nvidia cards are insufficient compared to AMD graphics cards, is this a fact? I am 18 year old.
what happend with those frametime spikes its not annoying the micro stutter?
Why don't you test these cards with a ryzen 7800X 3D? 😲 I think, at least the 1% lows would differ. ;)
I want 5080
4070s is the most budget, because it saves ur electricity bill in other way😂
4000 series are just untouchable really
unless you need the radeon color for professional work, like me (poor boy) go rtx
do it in 4k too bro, thanks, nice benchmark as aways
Real answer is depends on the price in your region.
Hey does anyone know if a 700 watt power supply with 2 separate 12volt with pigtails will work with a 4080 or should i get the 4070ti super? I have 4070 plan in my pc right now.
4070 super👍🏻
4070 super
You can over clock 4070ti super to basically a 4080
very good comparison bro😄
1440P is not enough to show the differences. It's more CPU at that point.
You are very wrong.
since i got the money i tooked the 4080 after some considering if a 4070ti wouldnt do it.
4070 ti super is the choice..anything less than 16gb is buffoonery
Nah 12 go is fine
Stop the fear mongering
@anarchistmaverick9507 no it's not ya dolt.. newer games and with wide monitors you need higher vram..fear mongering..smh
rtx 4080 super 16gb my dream graphics card
A very humble dream, but you do you. I hope you achieve it.
@@Krenisphia thanks I will acheive
The 4070 ti super is the best in my opinion
Hab die "normale 4080 jetzt 1 Jahr.
Im Vergleich zur 7900 lebt sie vom Raytracing !
Wird das aktiviert - ist sie brutal besser !
Ist so !
Ich wurde beim Zocken auch nicht zu UHD raten.
Man sieht zu WQHD meiner Meinung nach keinen krassen Unterschied
Auch nicht bei Cyberpunk.
Dafür könnt ihr auf WQHD dann ALLES auf Ultra stellen - was wirklich geil ist !
Hab auch das DLSS - also die KI-Bildverbesserung der 4080 in Cyberpunk auf Ultra Qualität gesetzt
Perfekt für diese Karte ist meiner Meinung nach ein fetter WQHD-Monitor mit 144 HZ.
Dann alle Einstellungen auf Ultra - und es läuft mit stabil mit 92 Frames !
Ladet dazu dann noch GPU Tweak 3 zum tunen der Karte runter.
Meine Einstellung:
Power Target: 110%
CPU Spannung + 27%
GPU Takt: 2740
Speichertakt: 22845
Lüfter: Auto
evtl. ist noch ein Klick mehr drin - kommt immer auf die Karte an.
Aber damit holt ihr Cyberpunk - alles auf Ultra - mit der 4080 von 92 auf bis zu 101 Frames.
Mein geliebtes altes Far Cry 5 push ich mit diesen Einstellungen ( und Ultra ) von 89 auf 128 Frames.
Viel Spaß :-)
4070S: I'm a 1440p gpu
4080S: and I'm a 4k gpu
4070TiS: and I'm *confusing while looking around*...what am i
4070 ti super is a ultra wide 3440x1440 gpu 😅
@@slayeddreamer3820 i want to build my 1st pc. I was thinking to go with a ryzen 7 7800X3D and a 4070 super for 1440p gaming. I want a 2560X1440, 24.5inch and 240hz monitor. I want to keep this build for at least 5 years. Is it good?
Wow channel is back, it was gone.
Games that are high specs like alan wake 2 and avatar won't have high play rates. Developer should at least design a game playable with 60fps mininally 1440p with a mid range gpu in mind. Less than 10% of the ppl will wanna pay for 4080 super pricing even though is cheaper nw but still pricey to the majority.
Why is 4070TiS so cold?
look at the wattage
@@Keyosu i see. Sometimes it's close to 4080s and temperature is still 5 degree lower.
@@mius memory junction probably runs hotter as well
Weak=cold
Because the chip is from a 4080 underclocked.
In terms of performance per watt, the worst card of these 3 is the 4070ti s.
Looks like 4070 S is most convincing of all these three😒.
I have a 4070 super and in Hogwarts legacy I get 70 FPS on average on 1440 P high settings with Ray tracing how was he only getting 49 to 50 FPS he’s got a better processor than me
How you get so low CPU temp on 13900k? Isn't it average suppose to be over 60 C degree? Can someone explain
Testing Games uses 420mm liquid cooling
@@Diegocruz350 I also have a liquid cooler, corsair elite H150i
wow in Poland we got 4070 ti super for 1000$ and 4080 super for 1200/1300 $
what a scam :P
btw just ordered 4070tiS and can't wait to test it ...
You can pay less than 900 $ for 4070 ti super in x-kom
Forza horizon 5 is incredibly well optimized.
Performance/price = they all seem very expensive to me.
they are
Can you do all 4070s?
The 4080S is bottlenecked by CPU in MFS
The 4gb vram increment was truely essential
SO which one is the best for it value?
id take no more than 4070 super/ti, regular 4070 is fine for most gamers
Dude, if I get a 4070ts, will it be enough for the next few years with 1440p quality, or should I wait until the 50 series comes?@@iikatinggangsengii2471
Since I don't really care about ray tracing I rather get a RX 7900 XTX and get a better performance than all of these cards.
У меня 4070s это лучшая видеокарта по соотношению цена/качество. Когда обновлюсь до 4080s то же самое буду говорить про нее.
I think the 4080 would show its strength at 4k more clearly.
U know these prices is off😅better put the tax on there it makes big defensive 😅
57fps aw2 1000$ ngeedya gpu 🎉😂
"new era of gaming" green troll said 🤣
Bro Alan Wake 2 is hard to run, and if a 4080S runs like that, imagine your gpu
Dont be retarded
Yet it still destroys a 1000$ AMD GPU in this game.
@@EarthIsFlat456 amd doesnt even have any 1000$ gpu anymore omg this nvidia addicts are SOOO MAD 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@notenjoying666 Yes it does. Some 7900XTX models still sell more than that. Besides even if they're all under 1000$ they still get destroyed in Alan Wake 2. Fanboyism keeps you from seeing the facts, you need help.
@@EarthIsFlat456 oh i see u smoke some crack. Stop it, get some help 💉💊
😂😂😂
Pls add hunt showdown to tests
Can't read resolution on a phone
Uh these number are garbage. Do not trust this channel. I have a 4070s /12700k and in hogwarts legacy at 1440p. You should be getting around 90-100fps. Not sure how your geting only 60. You straight lying about these numbers And the same thing with forza. Hell, even At 4k im getting around 100. Checked your number against other, actually creditable, reviewers, and their numbers are closer to what im getting. You are doing something really wrong or you misleading to upsell people with your affiliate links.
because they have Ray Tracing turned on, but don't turn on DLSS. i agree this channels' testing methods are reallyyyyy bad at being honest about GPU performance.
@sunneltakes I had it on also. Like I matched his settings exactly in both games I mentioned. His fps are still way too low. I'm even using ddr4.not that it actually makes a difference.
@@hiphoppop45 and DLSS on as well? Not sure how the channels FPS was low, it's odd, but maybe the recording method is affecting framerate as well, as I know sometimes it can reduce FPS depending on how they're recording the gameplay.
Nope, dlss off. It's around 90. Like is said, none of his numbers make sense. If it wasn't so inconvenient, I'd upload a video.
Is ryzen 7 5800x3d is the good option to pair with rtx 4080 super for 1440p or better choose 4070 ti super ?
go for the 7 7800x3d if you can, n if you have more budget get a 9950x3d
Go for 7800x3d, yeah don't get 9950x3d unless u do a lot of productivity work like editing and such
i keep use 750ti power 55w war crafts/ war frame/ rainbow 6
Good to know😂
It scrazy that its 30 to 40fps more on average while being bottlenekced you wrre onpy getting 80% gpu utilization with the 4080 super on sverage in mictosoft simulator.
4070 ti super 16 gb 256 bit great gpu for 2k ultra and 4k low settings gaming❤
4k low setting? Many games in 4k high or ultra setting can easily hit 60fps above with 4070ti Super.
4070ti super 16gb is a 4k gpu, imagine spend 800$ for 1440p😅 a big no.
4k @Dlss quality all day f...k yes
@@JrPazSoldan Indeed. And with DLSS 3 the fps can reach up even higher.
Huh, I run High/Ultra @4k myself. Shrug.
Take it from someone with a 4070 super and a 4080 super. The 4080 super is worth it for anybody gaminf at 1440p ultra or 4k.
I mean its 20 to 50fps gains deprnding on the game. Like at the end 40fps in horizon. Im a sim racer games like acc gave me massive massive 40fps boosts. So yeah man its worth it. When im sitting here getting 130fps in 4k on acc im like yeah thats def nicer then the 88fps I was getting. Still good but man what a monster gpu.
4070 super good but should have 16gb vram 4070 ti super best one in this super gpus 16gb vram also +10% performance 4080 super worst upgrade ever it's not iven super same 4080 1-2fps diference really bad gpu at least thay give 20gb vram but no
ryzen 7 5700x3d vs ryzen 7 5800x3d?
See thr gpu heat. 4070 ti s win
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4070 super is good
4080 S of course
Wait for a year or so, and get myself a brand new RTX 5090 TI Super/RX 8900XTX with no less than 24 GB GRam, btw, RTX 4070Ti Super makes no sense and 4070 good for price but not good for 4K with RT on
the 5090/5090ti is gonna cost an arm and a leg, rn the 7900xtx has 24gb of vram. the 4070/4070 super is the only card rlly worth buying in the 4000 series, 4080 supers arent msrp now
Why not wait 5 more years and get something better? While you're at it why not wait another 10 years?
@@EarthIsFlat456 Nah imma wait just a few sec on my death bed then i'll buy the top PC available. Best option here.
@@captainv6422 Exactly.
Like for MSFS2020
face it boys, nvidia is not worth it anymore
🤘👊
Imagine still falling for this shit nvidia is pulling ..
And why do you say that? None of these gpu suck shit is your comment
dont buy 4080s or 4070tis the 5000 series is around the corner and if you cant wait just waste your money on these overpriced cards
You think that 50 series will drop the price? Lol so naive.
Well I was waiting from the 3000 series as I was broke😑. If there are any leaks we get in 2 months then I might change my decision. 🙂
Btw, I was deciding to buy a 4070S but due to the vram I was trying to avoid it and deciding to go for TiS, just for vram. I need for my workstation programs so no amd at all:( I wanted of amd one only tbh.
@@arduinocoder247 “Rumor” has it that 50 series will come out the end of 2024.
But “personally” I think 40 series is a huge improvement from 30 series. So the 50 might come with a small performance upgrade only. But that is just “personal” thought (IDK). But you still can wait for the 50 series if you have a 30 series card already.
@@shang-chihluo7822 I don't have a pc lol. If I had 3000 series gpu then I would never make my brain think of upgrading until 6000 series
@@arduinocoder247 Haha then just get a 40 I think. You don’t have to wait. Though many people say that 50 has DP 2.1 but I think 1.4 is enough nowadays. Just get the 40 now don’t have to wait for another year to get the 50.
Fps higher than 60fps means nothing if you have a 60hz monitor.
oh wow it's not like everyone knows that, everyone who is seriously into pc gaming has a 144hz monitor or higher
@@naxoznp Untrue. True if competitive games, completely ridiculous for any other game, especially AAA which need more visual beauty than fps.
I'm a hardcore gamer and I use a 60hz monitor, so you are wrong.@@naxoznp
If you play games competetivly its still better to have high fps even on 60hz
@rekadio You're wrong.