Chill guys they'll all debut. The last evaluation was in 2021 and it's already done. They'll just show us the process of how they selected these 7 members and how it wasn't going to be a 7 member group but after seeing all of them YG decided to debut all 7 of them. Mark my words and comeback to this they'll all debut.
the thing everyone's looking past is when yhs said they'll let the people evaluate them. so they might do elimination after all the evaluation perfs are released. they might do the same thing they did with ikon and magnum(treasure). announcing the official members online after voting/getting the feedbacks from the fans. how did y'all even know it was 2021?
If you will pay attention to last parts of what YG said. He said that he wanted to show us the last evaluation that made the decision as to how many of them will debut. Meaning all 7 of them will still debut. He just wanted to show us how his decision was changed after the last evaluation. Thats my take on this teaser
The very first teaser, titled "YG Next Movement" already hinted something. And YHS telling people at the end "Judge them, based on how you see and hear them" was a spoiler.
What is that mean? Is that mean we are definitely going to judge by vote or sending comments? That doesn't make any sense, they already FILMED this and Haram now is having blonde hair but still included in intro video
@@gurunhitam3414 YG is cooking something here. For better or for worse, we will see something that the YG founder deemed "worthy" and "impactful". I believe this is done for reason as follows: 1. This is the comeback project of Yang Hyunsuk after he left in 2019. So he is putting extra efforts (too much for our liking, tbh) on the BabyMonster project. 2. It was a setup to brought the fans together and make them cohesive. Because YG learned how detrimental OT1s or solo stans are to the fanbase and to the management. 3. To clear-up some antagonism brought by the pre-debut hype and create a buffer to stabilize the favor of the public. If that is hard to understand, Chiquita's case of being too young is a good example. Another example is the lesson brought by Kim Garam of LE SSERAFIM. If there is any chance, that 1 of the 7 girls also have issues that can ruin their debut, it would be prevented by this action of YG.
@@raynxxiaqoh2833 So with the point three, are they going to kick Chiquita and Rora out? Damn shit if that happens. If they thought that they were too young, why even bother to promote them at first place?
@@gurunhitam3414 It's just a theory though. Instead of focusing on Reason 3, let's put our attention on Reason 2. Because reason 2 implies that this is done so that the fanbase built during this pre-debut era will come together and push for the debut of all 7 members. Meaning, no one from the 7 girls will leave and the fans will be more OT7 because of the effort they put to let it happen.
I believe BABYMONSTER will debut as 7. *don't jumps into conclusion, and read this:* I think It's just the way YG makes them *pushing their limit* or that's what he initially wants to do. He makes clear that this project sounds no guarantee for all the seven members, so they need to and will keep improving & be competitive. The teaser *didn't show us when* exactly YG said that and when Final Evaluation done, so it might something that *happen in the past*. After some consideration, turns out all seven members are so great, that YG decide that everyone will debut as BABYMONSTER. That's why all the seven members got their Live Performance, Introduction, and Character Playlist videos on their channel. There's no reason for them to upload all of that if they didn't debut it as 7. There's also some other trainee that appear in video but got their face blurred and don't have any individual video. So all the seven members we see now are the one that already past the evaluation. The next videos will probably shows us why all 7 members get pass or their Final Evaluation performance or about the decision to make BABYMONSTER a 7-members group, the BABYMONSTER that we knew. I honestly think that's the narrative YG wanna build to them. The (not so) twist is all of them were so good that they're all gonna debut as one team contrary to what he initially made them to. As for fans, this teaser made to be great marketing and clickbait for viewer, fans, and public in general. So don't jumps into conclusion and do something that might backfire BABYMONSTER before we knew what happen. It's a teaser guys. YG won't put much effort for someone that won't debut. "We want to unveil the very Last Evaluation to fans, which was..." ---> YG wants to show everyone last evaluation "Held RIGHT BEFORE deciding on members of BABYMONSTER..." ---> evaluation that already happen in the past "And finalize the best member as BABYMONSTER." ---> and turns out, everyone is the best and got into baemon
Reading comprehension is must!! Try to read again what he means by unveiling the performance something like that *ps this is not a negative comments dont get me wrong im just trying to less the nervous and worried about these last evaluation
If you have watched Treasure Box (Treasure's debut survival show), which made me very disappointed at his last decisions, you know anything can happen regardless of public opinions because he has too much control on groups. So I kinda believe that maybe some members will be dropped out because he has been out of his minds for years, and he said 'definitely' in korean which is a very strong word unless he is completely lying
YG always planned for ODD NUMBER, end up in EVEN NUMBER like Winner, IKON, TREASURE, BIG BANG (Seungi drama), BLACKPINK, 2NE1,… So he maybe he scared with ODD NUMBER?
I personally didn't believe it cuz I just see the girls on tweeter clip from a fan last week they are leaving YG building. 🤣🤭 But this is fire they do be creating talk for the group. 😅
That video of him saying the group is going to have less than 7 members was taken long time ago in 2021. He said in the beginning that this is the process in how they finalized on the 7 members so I am guessing they really pushed themselves and wowed him which is y he decided to keep all 7 of them. No way YG would reveal trainees if they were not going to debut.
What YG want to do is exaclty this: that everyone talks about babymonster thats the strategy, they want to get this type of attention, even if people hate on YG and it seems like "bad publicity" is still technically good publicity for them because what is important is "people dont stop talking about the girls"
After attracting public attention through competition, it seems that 7 members will debut. or maybe one of them will drop out... this is how YG does business.....
Is not a bad actually, because at that time they are still a line up for debut.. so if HYS said “the member debut will less than 7” so the trainees will prepare and set their mental to fight to debut… so they are fighting to debut… Thats just a process of thinking and how to encourage them tooo move and push themselves with their talents
He said it in the auditorium to the 7 girls and the staff after the showcase: 1. BM will never be a 7 member group 2. It will definitely be less than 7 And he recorded it. And aired it. Of course there is a planed strategy with all this but that is what he said. Don’t mix what you want him to say for what he actually said. I don’t like this PR stunt at all but one thing is sure: we are getting invested.
We're talking about a man and his label who has sat on Blackpink for, what, half their career? If you watch back the teasers and introductions of the... trainees... it tracks. They never actually mention them debuting, they always keep it vague. But whether it's a bait and switch or they go through with it, this is an immense lack of respect to the fans and the trainees
Remember blurred girls in each videos profile? I dont think yg will showed us 7 girls if they not going to debut. The possibility are : 1. They will make more than 1 group or even soloist.... Or 2. The video teaser just a click bait. The real video are about the final test before they announced babymonster plan... Which is at the last time they decided to make it 7 member
LOL! This is typical YHS/YGE marketing strategy since 2006! Please YG Stans especially those who were there in the beginning of BIG BANG have been through this countless of times. Yes BIG BANG was uncertain and not a planned debut too. YHS originally wanted a GD and Taeyang hip hop duo debut. However, 4 more trainees were just as impressive and then YHS thought about debuting a group instead of a duo. Seungri was actually eliminated, but then ended up being called back and made the final line up. A similar situation happened with WINNER and IKON when they did the survival show YG WIN: WHO IS NEXT. YHS said ONLY ONE GROUP WILL DEBUT while the other group might disband or change members. Well WINNER won through viewer vote and made their debut. While Team B/IKON continued in another survival show called MIX&MATCH, where 3 members were already fixed debut members for IKON, while the other 3 members had to compete with 3 more new trainees for the final 4 spots to debut as IKON. Then we had TREASURE that was originally supposed to debut as 7 members. But then YHS announced that there will be 2 groups TREASURE with the 7 members who won through fan votes and producer vote in the show. Then the other 6 trainees became the group MAGNUM. There was an idea of these two groups combining as TREASURE 13 and promoting that way.. kind of like EXO with EXO-K and EXO-M. So TREASURE would be like EXO-K and MAGNUM would be EXO-M..MAGNUM would promote more in the Japanese market. But eventually, YHS decided to combine the two groups as TREASURE 13, but one of the members decided to leave YGE and the group. So they became TREASURE 12.. now they are 10 members 😢 So I feel this the same tactic and marketing strategy for BABY MONSTER. It’s not YGE, without YHS shocking us with announcements and teasers. But as I said, THIS WAS INTENTIONAL. It got everybody talking about BABY MONSTER whether it’s good or bad. Now everybody is interested and will give more support to BABY MONSTER. Also, this is also YHS way of pushing the girls themselves to give their 300% on their final evaluations. Which is what we saw in the teaser, it looks like all 7 will give amazing/impressive performances. Whether or not it will be enough for YHS to just keep all 7 members or if he already has 4-5 members that are debut ready. We all have to tune in for that final evaluations. If you want my opinion, deep down I feel he will keep the 7 members. But then again, I do feel that there are members WHO ARE DEBUT READY while there are others who are not at that level yet. However, let’s keep in mind that these interviews/evaluations are from 2-3 years ago. Things can happen in between or recently in where YHS could have changed his mind and saw improvement in some members. We just have to wait and see what happens. But I have to give it to YHS/YGE, they caught some ppl off guard LOL! Especially those who are not familiar with YHS/YGE marketing/strategy. Maybe we should have warned you guys before you got invested haha! But yeah WELCOME TO SUPPORTING YG ARTISTS!! 😂
It's jst a bait strategy by yg to create the hype... At this point... When they r this close to debut yg won't waste any money on the members whom the company doesn't want.. And also even if we go by their recent intro vids also... The foreign members won't be removed.. Now for the korean members ahyeon is the ace of the group even in her intro video it was mentioned, for haram in her last vid.. She was bloned so she is safe ( idols often dye their hair before debut/come back) in her intro video tho during the birthday scene only 6 trainees where shown in the birthday clip which was played (jst to foreshadow this incident but jst for hype) cause the birthday clip was originally from 2022 . Now for rora she is called the all rounder by all even jennie only mentioned her name in the latest video.. So no chance that any one of them would leave and it's jst a bait.... Tho I think rora / chiquita would be used as the bait but will be added jst like momo in sixteen(jyp), lee know and felix, skz and even in treasure with the entire magnum lineup or yoshi and asahi especially.... So yeah it's on the same route of hype creation Really sorry for this long essay 🥲
YG with the friendly reminder of why we hate him. But tbh I see where he's going with this, but at the same time doing this to literally children is NOT ok, I don't even wanna know the amount of trauma this created
I don’t think it created trauma, but definitely stress and possibly mental breakdown. Pretty sure they would always though it was gonna be the 7 of them as the others were eliminated, and probably YG promised them. But this is probably a situation where YG was planning to debut 5-4 members but turned out that 7 of them work well with each other. Happened in treasure box too, plan was for 5-7 members but turned into 12-11 members.
On some level I'm curious how the K-Pop world would react, if they really cut one of them out of the group now. Sure, most likely this was prerecorded a while ago and I suspect the framing in the teaser is just a marketing stunt (for more publicity), but who knows? Its YG and we all know how "out of touch" a company especially YG can be at times (just look at their past). So everything is possible. Assuming its just a marketing stunt: My main concern at this point would be, that this creates stupid fanwars about who deserves it more and who is not good enough. So even as a marketing stunt it has the risk to split and damage the fandom before they even debut. Also imagine being one of the 7 members now reading online from some of "your" fans, that you're not good enough. Hope that publicity is worth it in the end.
What of YG needs to get rid of a certain member for whatever reason? Maybe she is a troublemaker and the group dynamic will be terrible with her in it, maybe another potential school bully or for some other reason.
Chill guys they'll all debut. The last evaluation was in 2021 and it's already done. They'll just show us the process of how they selected these 7 members and how it wasn't going to be a 7 member group but after seeing all of them YG decided to debut all 7 of them. Mark my words and comeback to this they'll all debut.
I can't sleep well last night because of this teaser, read this give me a little bit hope they will all debut as our Baby Monster
Please
the thing everyone's looking past is when yhs said they'll let the people evaluate them. so they might do elimination after all the evaluation perfs are released. they might do the same thing they did with ikon and magnum(treasure). announcing the official members online after voting/getting the feedbacks from the fans. how did y'all even know it was 2021?
Really?
@@rubyjane1628_ i mean, it’s quite logical. Why would YG give free publicity to any of these girls ?
Really went from a happy good time to an mnet survival show real quick
If you will pay attention to last parts of what YG said. He said that he wanted to show us the last evaluation that made the decision as to how many of them will debut. Meaning all 7 of them will still debut. He just wanted to show us how his decision was changed after the last evaluation.
Thats my take on this teaser
Exactly, people are overreacting
@@umairshaikh4204 i was confused too the first time i watched it. But understand it the second time wqtching it
same I focused on his words and they spoilt the actual meaning behind this teaser
Idk why people are freaking out. This is YG, the kings of marketing. All seven will debut
The very first teaser, titled "YG Next Movement" already hinted something. And YHS telling people at the end "Judge them, based on how you see and hear them" was a spoiler.
What is that mean? Is that mean we are definitely going to judge by vote or sending comments? That doesn't make any sense, they already FILMED this and Haram now is having blonde hair but still included in intro video
@@gurunhitam3414 YG is cooking something here. For better or for worse, we will see something that the YG founder deemed "worthy" and "impactful". I believe this is done for reason as follows:
1. This is the comeback project of Yang Hyunsuk after he left in 2019. So he is putting extra efforts (too much for our liking, tbh) on the BabyMonster project.
2. It was a setup to brought the fans together and make them cohesive. Because YG learned how detrimental OT1s or solo stans are to the fanbase and to the management.
3. To clear-up some antagonism brought by the pre-debut hype and create a buffer to stabilize the favor of the public. If that is hard to understand, Chiquita's case of being too young is a good example. Another example is the lesson brought by Kim Garam of LE SSERAFIM. If there is any chance, that 1 of the 7 girls also have issues that can ruin their debut, it would be prevented by this action of YG.
@@raynxxiaqoh2833 So with the point three, are they going to kick Chiquita and Rora out? Damn shit if that happens. If they thought that they were too young, why even bother to promote them at first place?
@@gurunhitam3414 It's just a theory though. Instead of focusing on Reason 3, let's put our attention on Reason 2. Because reason 2 implies that this is done so that the fanbase built during this pre-debut era will come together and push for the debut of all 7 members. Meaning, no one from the 7 girls will leave and the fans will be more OT7 because of the effort they put to let it happen.
I believe BABYMONSTER will debut as 7.
*don't jumps into conclusion, and read this:*
I think It's just the way YG makes them *pushing their limit* or that's what he initially wants to do. He makes clear that this project sounds no guarantee for all the seven members, so they need to and will keep improving & be competitive. The teaser *didn't show us when* exactly YG said that and when Final Evaluation done, so it might something that *happen in the past*.
After some consideration, turns out all seven members are so great, that YG decide that everyone will debut as BABYMONSTER. That's why all the seven members got their Live Performance, Introduction, and Character Playlist videos on their channel. There's no reason for them to upload all of that if they didn't debut it as 7.
There's also some other trainee that appear in video but got their face blurred and don't have any individual video. So all the seven members we see now are the one that already past the evaluation. The next videos will probably shows us why all 7 members get pass or their Final Evaluation performance or about the decision to make BABYMONSTER a 7-members group, the BABYMONSTER that we knew.
I honestly think that's the narrative YG wanna build to them. The (not so) twist is all of them were so good that they're all gonna debut as one team contrary to what he initially made them to. As for fans, this teaser made to be great marketing and clickbait for viewer, fans, and public in general. So don't jumps into conclusion and do something that might backfire BABYMONSTER before we knew what happen.
It's a teaser guys.
YG won't put much effort for someone that won't debut.
"We want to unveil the very Last Evaluation to fans, which was..." ---> YG wants to show everyone last evaluation
"Held RIGHT BEFORE deciding on members of BABYMONSTER..." ---> evaluation that already happen in the past
"And finalize the best member as BABYMONSTER." ---> and turns out, everyone is the best and got into baemon
Hahaha yas. Same here bruh, I refused to believe that. They are all best for Baby Monster.
Blackpink also has 7 members before debut , but 3 of them were gone with some reasons. guess that pretty similar situation with Blackpink debut time..
Reading comprehension is must!! Try to read again what he means by unveiling the performance something like that
*ps this is not a negative comments dont get me wrong im just trying to less the nervous and worried about these last evaluation
It's deferent cuz they didn't formally introduce the members to the public just like the blurred out faces, it's completely deferent. 🤭
If you have watched Treasure Box (Treasure's debut survival show), which made me very disappointed at his last decisions,
you know anything can happen regardless of public opinions because he has too much control on groups.
So I kinda believe that maybe some members will be dropped out because he has been out of his minds for years,
and he said 'definitely' in korean which is a very strong word unless he is completely lying
I need all 7 damn ittt 😩😩😩
YG always planned for ODD NUMBER, end up in EVEN NUMBER like Winner, IKON, TREASURE, BIG BANG (Seungi drama), BLACKPINK, 2NE1,…
So he maybe he scared with ODD NUMBER?
I’m a YG Stan since winner vs ikon ! This is so YG ! Same happened to YG treasure box .. he said only 5 members but treasure debut as big group
I personally didn't believe it cuz I just see the girls on tweeter clip from a fan last week they are leaving YG building. 🤣🤭 But this is fire they do be creating talk for the group. 😅
everyone saying that it's not possible but I don't forget what he did with treasure
That video of him saying the group is going to have less than 7 members was taken long time ago in 2021. He said in the beginning that this is the process in how they finalized on the 7 members so I am guessing they really pushed themselves and wowed him which is y he decided to keep all 7 of them. No way YG would reveal trainees if they were not going to debut.
I'm saying the less than 7 members might not be true I hope it's just a PR stunt
What YG want to do is exaclty this: that everyone talks about babymonster thats the strategy, they want to get this type of attention, even if people hate on YG and it seems like "bad publicity" is still technically good publicity for them because what is important is "people dont stop talking about the girls"
I hope they debut with 4 members like 2ne1 & blackpink
After attracting public attention through competition, it seems that 7 members will debut.
or maybe one of them will drop out...
this is how YG does business.....
Is not a bad actually, because at that time they are still a line up for debut.. so if HYS said “the member debut will less than 7” so the trainees will prepare and set their mental to fight to debut… so they are fighting to debut…
Thats just a process of thinking and how to encourage them tooo move and push themselves with their talents
He said it in the auditorium to the 7 girls and the staff after the showcase:
1. BM will never be a 7 member group
2. It will definitely be less than 7
And he recorded it. And aired it. Of course there is a planed strategy with all this but that is what he said. Don’t mix what you want him to say for what he actually said.
I don’t like this PR stunt at all but one thing is sure: we are getting invested.
a lot of ppl think it’s going to be 4 like blackpink & 2ne1 but i really hope it’s more..
Yeah yeah, we're not falling for it. 🥱
We're talking about a man and his label who has sat on Blackpink for, what, half their career? If you watch back the teasers and introductions of the... trainees... it tracks. They never actually mention them debuting, they always keep it vague. But whether it's a bait and switch or they go through with it, this is an immense lack of respect to the fans and the trainees
This has to be a marketing strategy
welcome to "Mnet" YG survival show
Remember blurred girls in each videos profile? I dont think yg will showed us 7 girls if they not going to debut. The possibility are : 1. They will make more than 1 group or even soloist.... Or 2. The video teaser just a click bait. The real video are about the final test before they announced babymonster plan... Which is at the last time they decided to make it 7 member
LOL! This is typical YHS/YGE marketing strategy since 2006! Please YG Stans especially those who were there in the beginning of BIG BANG have been through this countless of times. Yes BIG BANG was uncertain and not a planned debut too. YHS originally wanted a GD and Taeyang hip hop duo debut. However, 4 more trainees were just as impressive and then YHS thought about debuting a group instead of a duo. Seungri was actually eliminated, but then ended up being called back and made the final line up. A similar situation happened with WINNER and IKON when they did the survival show YG WIN: WHO IS NEXT. YHS said ONLY ONE GROUP WILL DEBUT while the other group might disband or change members. Well WINNER won through viewer vote and made their debut. While Team B/IKON continued in another survival show called MIX&MATCH, where 3 members were already fixed debut members for IKON, while the other 3 members had to compete with 3 more new trainees for the final 4 spots to debut as IKON. Then we had TREASURE that was originally supposed to debut as 7 members. But then YHS announced that there will be 2 groups TREASURE with the 7 members who won through fan votes and producer vote in the show. Then the other 6 trainees became the group MAGNUM. There was an idea of these two groups combining as TREASURE 13 and promoting that way.. kind of like EXO with EXO-K and EXO-M. So TREASURE would be like EXO-K and MAGNUM would be EXO-M..MAGNUM would promote more in the Japanese market. But eventually, YHS decided to combine the two groups as TREASURE 13, but one of the members decided to leave YGE and the group. So they became TREASURE 12.. now they are 10 members 😢
So I feel this the same tactic and marketing strategy for BABY MONSTER. It’s not YGE, without YHS shocking us with announcements and teasers. But as I said, THIS WAS INTENTIONAL. It got everybody talking about BABY MONSTER whether it’s good or bad. Now everybody is interested and will give more support to BABY MONSTER. Also, this is also YHS way of pushing the girls themselves to give their 300% on their final evaluations. Which is what we saw in the teaser, it looks like all 7 will give amazing/impressive performances. Whether or not it will be enough for YHS to just keep all 7 members or if he already has 4-5 members that are debut ready. We all have to tune in for that final evaluations.
If you want my opinion, deep down I feel he will keep the 7 members. But then again, I do feel that there are members WHO ARE DEBUT READY while there are others who are not at that level yet. However, let’s keep in mind that these interviews/evaluations are from
2-3 years ago. Things can happen in between or recently in where YHS could have changed his mind and saw improvement in some members. We just have to wait and see what happens.
But I have to give it to YHS/YGE, they caught some ppl off guard LOL! Especially those who are not familiar with YHS/YGE marketing/strategy. Maybe we should have warned you guys before you got invested haha! But yeah WELCOME TO SUPPORTING YG ARTISTS!! 😂
It's jst a bait strategy by yg to create the hype... At this point... When they r this close to debut yg won't waste any money on the members whom the company doesn't want.. And also even if we go by their recent intro vids also... The foreign members won't be removed.. Now for the korean members ahyeon is the ace of the group even in her intro video it was mentioned, for haram in her last vid.. She was bloned so she is safe ( idols often dye their hair before debut/come back) in her intro video tho during the birthday scene only 6 trainees where shown in the birthday clip which was played (jst to foreshadow this incident but jst for hype) cause the birthday clip was originally from 2022 .
Now for rora she is called the all rounder by all even jennie only mentioned her name in the latest video.. So no chance that any one of them would leave and it's jst a bait....
Tho I think rora / chiquita would be used as the bait but will be added jst like momo in sixteen(jyp), lee know and felix, skz and even in treasure with the entire magnum lineup or yoshi and asahi especially....
So yeah it's on the same route of hype creation
Really sorry for this long essay 🥲
It must be Bait switch. I agree with you
if they want to make a survival show then they shouldn’t blur the 3 other trainees’ faces
Yep. It makes no sense for YG to debut less than all seven of the girls after all this introduction stuff. It's a drama move only.
media plays....babymonster will debut as 7 members dont worry....its cheap market statistics for make more gossips and hype
YG with the friendly reminder of why we hate him. But tbh I see where he's going with this, but at the same time doing this to literally children is NOT ok, I don't even wanna know the amount of trauma this created
I don’t think it created trauma, but definitely stress and possibly mental breakdown. Pretty sure they would always though it was gonna be the 7 of them as the others were eliminated, and probably YG promised them. But this is probably a situation where YG was planning to debut 5-4 members but turned out that 7 of them work well with each other.
Happened in treasure box too, plan was for 5-7 members but turned into 12-11 members.
On some level I'm curious how the K-Pop world would react, if they really cut one of them out of the group now. Sure, most likely this was prerecorded a while ago and I suspect the framing in the teaser is just a marketing stunt (for more publicity), but who knows? Its YG and we all know how "out of touch" a company especially YG can be at times (just look at their past). So everything is possible. Assuming its just a marketing stunt: My main concern at this point would be, that this creates stupid fanwars about who deserves it more and who is not good enough. So even as a marketing stunt it has the risk to split and damage the fandom before they even debut. Also imagine being one of the 7 members now reading online from some of "your" fans, that you're not good enough. Hope that publicity is worth it in the end.
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What of YG needs to get rid of a certain member for whatever reason? Maybe she is a troublemaker and the group dynamic will be terrible with her in it, maybe another potential school bully or for some other reason.
Sorry, but why you so cute arghhh.. when your emotion coming up, you look cute 😂😂 but, I am sure that baemon is still 7 too
Bait switch or not this is so messed up
big cap
7 members are too many
7 is too many, 5 would be better