The Failure Of VENOM: THE LAST DANCE
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Venom: The Last Dance has finally walked its way onto theatres, and, let’s be real-it’s a bit of a disaster. And not the fun kind. The first two Venom films weren’t exactly masterpieces, but they gave us Tom Hardy fully embracing his inner nutjob as Eddie Brock, along with his hungry symbiote pal Venom. Add in some CGI monstrosities, some decent plot progression and minor character growth and you’ve got a franchise that was weird, silly, and just a little bit self-aware.
But The Last Dance takes everything that worked in the first two films and somehow manages to mess it all up, highlighted by its underperformance at the box office. Gone is the charm of Eddie and Venom’s strange bond, replaced by a lazy mess of a script filled with holes, contrivances that stretch credulity, incoherent motivations and choices, in addition to characters that feel about as deep as a puddle.
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To me, Venom should have been an R rated movie. An Carnage does not belong in a movie marketed for kids/family.
Definetly.
Weak argument that could literally go for any character in the mcu
The world is run by satanic pdf files, this is exactly what they want in 'family' movies. Violence and moral decay, welcome to the 21st century.
@@xscnn Yeeaaah, no. Most characters aren't brutally killing people, going on massive killing sprees in the middle of the city streets killing hundreds of civilians, again, brutally. Dismemberment. Chasing down and torturing people before killing them, slowly. Would you want Freddy Kreuger to be advertised towards kids, or believe how he does his business is something a child should see? No? Okay, that's the degree of eff'd up that is Carnage.
@@xscnnreally? Who else eats people’s heads? Who even looks that menacing? Exactly.
How do you get banned from a city because you have leverage on a judge? Having leverage it's supposed to bring about the opposite effect of being banned from a city
Knull is a Thanos Level threat. He shouldn't have been brought in for a one movie. It should've been after they introduced spider-man into the equation.
Exactly. They even copied the whole "I'm the big bad guy sitting on a throne" thing that they did with Thanos, but all they did was take a god and turned him into the kid whose mom canceled his WoW account.
Knull is way stronger than Thanos, unless you talking about him with the infinity gauntlet
@@Kingzeeop still stronger than him even with the gauntlet
Reminds me how they gave Gorr the God Butcher a disservice.
Pretty sure this isn’t the last time we’re gonna see him
this has been the most entertaining video yet! the cuts with other movies, 11/10
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Venom: The Last Dance
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz (2007)
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
A generational run of fucking up every movie you touch should be considered a skill.
That guy needs to go he is not producer. It’s just a money maker, unfortunately. He’s not going anywhere
Some of those I like despite Avi Arad especially Thomas Jane's Punisher.
Ah shit... Zelda? Shit...
The 2004 punisher with Thomas Jane was a good movie. I don't know what the hell youre talking about
3 Venom movies and not a Spider-Man in sight….the Knull comic line was awesome but randomly introducing him in the movies was a TERRIBLE decision
Me and my girl was so damn confused through out the whole movie and how the symbiote felt so weak when in the other movies they feel like actually monsters and we both knew how Eddie didn't feel like Eddie
Tbf xenophage was a menace. It's literally indestructible unless being destroyed to a cellular level. Reminds of the thing.
Don't forget the soldier "Thompson" who survived without his legs which is an homage Flash Thompson's Agent Venom or the next step with Venom
Im just glad there are heroes who upload the full movie on youtube for us to watch so we dint waste money on it at theatres.
They made three of this, i still can't belive it
In the comics Carnage is the MacGuffin that will allow Knull to leave his prison
The Venom trilogy is just a sad version of Deadpool if Ryan Reynolds is just an actor without any creative involvement to the series.
So why didn't they just use the Grendel dragon from the first arc of Donny Cates' Venom run instead of the Xenophage since it effectively serves the same function? And would look cooler?
Also, that spliced in Flight footage during plane crashing killed me.
most people survive being stuck by lightning, her bro mustve been hella unlucky.
Matt Reeves is doing with Batman’s mythos what Sony is unable to do with Spider-Man’s mythos.
Plus Mrs Chen leaving herb Bodega to go on vacation feels uncharacteristic and I'm just going off of who we see in the first two movies through her actions and dialogue
A Venom movie should have always been rated R.
You know, I'm just glad the Venom trilogy is over. But Andrew Garfield deserves a trilogy.
@@cybersoldierforever 100%
I just watched it and realized that it will be the last movie this series could’ve been something big, but that’s what happens when you give a bunch of idiots. Something good they ruin. This should have been one of the biggest anticipated characters that people have been wanting to see since the first movie has been announced, just for it to be the last movie
Venom and all the symbiotes have their comedic moments, either goofy or dark humour. But that shouldn't be the main thing to focus in a story about them.
The scenes from Flight you used and the others are hysterical 😂❤
Lmfaooo the airplane bit was so dark
He used Denzel Washingtons Flight movie & The knowing with Nicholas cage
That t-pain reference made my night 🤣🤣🤣
The Venom movies were way to cartoony and comedic. I always felt that Vemon and Carnage were more serious material.
Same.
100% man
Too be fair venom being cartoony and comedic has been the point
Knull is a villain they should have saved for a couple movies after they inevitably introduce symbiotes into the MCU. In these standalone films there's literally nothing for him to do.
Like, in the comics he corrups the Silver Surfer (a cosmic-level entity) - who only barely gets out alive - before even actually being released. Then he goes on a rampage across the stars, cutting a swath through alien empires on his way to Earth. And when he arrives he does so in style: With millions of symbiote dragons who encase the entire planet, and casually bringing along _two Celestials_ who he controls via symbiotes. He then proceeds to no-sell heavy hitters like Thor and the Hulk, rips the Sentry in half (who is basically a mentally unstable Superman), and humiliates everyone else. All with the sinister glee of a loan shark who is laying out just how much money you owe him.
Even his backstory has him wage all-out war with the Celestials for eons, before he even conceived of the symbiotes. And he actually killed one, whose head was later repurposed as the space station "Knowhere" we've seen in Guardians of the Galaxy.
You actually _need_ a powerful universe to showcase a villain who is at least a universe-level threat. These solo movies are so far below that scale that it doesn't matter at all what Knull is capable of. He could destroy earth as-is using his little toy monsters, even if he doesn't get out. In fact, there not even anything preventing him from still doing so at the end of the movie...
Here's what I'd do on an MCU scale:
Two movies - one as a setup, one as the escalation and resolution.
Use the general blueprint of this movie for the first one, but escalate it to fit the scale. Instead of the Xenophage you have huge symbiote dragons hunting for _any_ perfect symbiosis across the universe - the explanation being that if re-integrated into Knull's hive mind, he can use their body to reincarnate. Throw in the Avengers in place of this military project and cut to the Guardians to show other planets are dealing with the same, and you have a compelling MCU film.
At the end they manage to deal enough damage to the dragon to incapacitate it, so Knull basically talks through it and taunts Eddie that he was supposed to serve as his new body - but now isn't needed anymore... Cut to another planet, where an alien with a symbiote is impaled by another dragon, which absorbs into the body to twist it into Knull. The movie ends on his twisted grin.
The second movie then basically adapts the King in Black arc from the comics, with Knulls invasion of Earth. Pull a reverse Infinity War, with everyone we've seen retreating to Earth for the last stand, but getting demolished at every turn. A couple possessed by malicious symbiotes, making their allies hesitant to fight, etc.
For the resolution you could either go with the Enigma Force like in the comics, draw on another McGuffin that was never explored previously across the MCU, or simply have Eddie learn to challenge Knull's control over the hive mind - all better options than this "lost the keys forever, guess that's it" we got...
It's weird saying this is an awful ending when this might be the most aggressively mediocre franchise of all time
The crip mac clip had me dying. 😂😂😂 I love these guys and have for quite a few years! Thank you for a good laugh
I think in the film they said that toxin rejected mulligan and left him to die, so they had to bond him with another so I think his new symbiote is lasher? I mean toxin becomes a hero because of Patrick’s sense of justice he is a police officer after all and his symbiote takes on that trait. For for him to leave Patrick to die and then Mulligan not being utilised correctly, could of been a nice tie in as to what happened after let there be carnage.
EDIT my bad I forgot Christmas bonds with lasher so I have no idea who Patrick’s symbiote is but I don’t think it’s toxin anymore
The venom movies were held back by the pg-13 rating just as much as the direction they really just *made* these movies without any want to. If that makes sense. like these flicks didn't have the "a director with a vision and a story to tell" and more like corporate automation to make money. Really hope venom and carnage can get redemption in the future.
When i saw that venom 3 was happening i was hyped i knew they wouldn't fumble venom when the trailer dropped & I watched it my expectations of the movie plummeted .
i love how youve used clips from the pirated/bootleg cam video in this video lol
How very unfortunate. Venom, as a character, could have been so much more
Sony at least is a lesser evil than Disney. So I’m still glad they own ownership of the Spider-Man franchise. But I’m still frustrated by their terrible decision making there.
Great review and I never got into the Venom movies. Also, Chiwetel Ejiofor is pronounced as “chew-it-tell edge-e-oh-four”. Have a good one!
By dropping the j in ejiofor makes it sound like he's from norway
9:58
After Eddie frees the dogs there are these lines
Eddie - "And I got stuck with the superhero who can't fly"
Venom - "Wanna bet?"
So there is an explanation for why they were on the plane
Tom Hardy still delivers the best recovering drug addict performance of his career
LBRH, this was just a way for Sony to hold onto more important and newer Spiderman IP's so they can leverage them over Disney if they ever want to use them in the future, quality and plot be damned. They're looking to the future Avenger's vs Knull movie to make them a TON of money
Here I was thinking Knull was never going to make a cinematic appearance in any venom related media
I’m genuinely so fcking tired of Hollywood casting the same fcking 100 actors for comic book movies
Mate we need you to get over there and get to work advising those morons on how to make a good movie!! I don’t understand how they can employ so many well paid people who can totally duck up a story that’s already been written 😂 Ffs the comics have been around for decades and it’s infuriating that they try to cram so many different characters from completely different storyline’s to one movie where they don’t really fit together! It’s a tragedy to do that to this well received set of movies.
“The Black One”
Soon much potential too...btw keep up the good content flimcomics
Another example of film installments that destroy any positive from any prequel.
Sad to see them do venom so wrong
venorbius
It's Venoming time
This whole franchise was whack. Too silly
Trying to keep up a Spiderverse without Spiderman is like trying to make a Witchblade Cinematic Universe without Sara, Jackie and Danielle.
They should’ve had Andrew Garfield be the spider man of a more mature universe with R rated villain spin offs. Similar to Matt Reeves’ DC universe that has spin offs about villains and other characters but also still has a Batman.
Left out that Dr. Teddy Paine has the magoffin Codex now. In case Sony wants to make a bigger Box office Bomb than Madame Web later. Showcasing an older, blond, less attractive protagonist.
9:37 NOT MY TOXIN
They did toxin wrong in this film
I hope the upcoming animated R-rated Venom movie will succeed where this one failed. It worked for Green Lantern.
The first two films were awful . I def am not surprised the third is too.
The Knull stuff should've been in Part 1.
This aside, bad movie, bad trilogy, wasted potential 11/10.
I'd say the chances of Sony making more successful Marvel projects are pretty much Knull.
Good vid broski
One of a slim few movies i felt like wasted my time entirely
Excellent work Niyat 🤙
Thank you Jamma 🙌
This movie was such a disappointment!!!!
The first movie is one of the worst comic adaptations, so idk why people expected better...
Hope?
@atedalynvlog5975 hope died ages ago
Thank you. Been saying the same thing
Bunch of fun things to watch… only works if you half watch it… Sad shit, my 2 favorite animated comic characters are Venom and Gambit… Dead pool threw me a bone there.
Venom war machine in Ghost Rider needs a combined into one entity
They somehow lacked the emotional depth it should’ve had. Ed and venom should’ve been more codependent and intimate, it would’ve made the separation and sacrifice more tragic. Eddie didn’t even seem to care that much WATCHING venom literally die.
So a dude that was held captive by an alien parasite forcing it to dance to it's whims didnt develop stockholm and you're complaining about it.
What is wrong with you?
I agree this movie had promise but per Sony's normal trend they flopped the shit out of it.
It's a good climax if you like 12 cgi symbiotes going blahhhhh vs a ton of aliens that also go blahhhhh. 😂
An Epic Conclusion. To corrupting our Brains to the Oblivion with cordyceps!
Im telling you i love when nyat hates a movie dude shreds it to pieces
Lol, your cut-ins would make this movie 100% better.
You mean they weren’t TRYING to make godawful pieces of shit? Yeesh.
Oh yeah, there’s a movie like this in the theatres… or was(?)
Anyway, might check it out during the next decade.
Idiot,you're full of crap
bruh this edit had me rollin 😂😂 11:48
17:30 I had all of these action figures as a kid, they were my favorite toys!!
I have a request:
The Hills have Eyes series. I thought it would be a good one to go over
Most of the people I know just went to see the movie bc they wanted to see Venom and Eddie become a couple or have them kiss
I'm really disappointed I didn't get the Dr t pain joke till the second time
Honestly hate this movie for ruining the legacy of the last two movies being essentially cult classics. I remember when Let There Be Carnage came out and it did better critically and financially than Eternals which came out at the time. Also reshooting the post credits scene from No Way Home just to remove any mention of Spider-Man and say “fuck the multiverse”? Even if it’s not all on her I hope Kelly Marcell never directs another movie ever again, I hope this movie kills that career path for her
We do it for the fans
No, you didn't if for yourself
The symbiotes do reproduce by having a small bit of themselves break off. That’s where carnage came from in the comics
Watched yesterday. Sure, its logic is off at times, but i knew what i was getting, and i didn't look at my watch once, so that's a win in my book.
To say it has underperformed at the box office, though, is wrong as it is still number 1, has sailed past $400 million & may even top the previous Venom film.
This movie to me is a fan service only but with shit story which is a shame.
Wrong
I see Juno temple turned herself into an alien like the girl from the boys. It must be ozempic and an "in" thing to look like and alien in Hollywood now.
Man, if that video would have been released yesterday, I could have saved the 12 bucks.
Just couldn't believe the 3th would really be so much less interesting after the 2nd was so intense.
But yes, this movie is nothing burger and Venom had no edge anymore, uneventful except for the last few minutes when the other symbiotes get their 3mins of glory.
I was so hyped for a thriller when the trailers for Venom 1 came out. This seems to be a hot take, but I hate the buddy-buddy relationship.
Man, it would be a surprise if you did Overlord
Now can we get marvel movies that aren’t fully 90% comedy and corny humour?
He isn’t toxin any more brother
Kamal Harris led a flawless campaign
Forgot Venom existed
Hear me out, an Anti-Venom movie.
12:51 Bro what do you mean Venom possesses a horse to speed up their journey 😭😭😭 the implications?!
Venon horse cock size
A bunch of scientists save the captured symbiotes in a lab by achieving perfect symbiosis with them at random. Absolutely willy-nilly. I was like, what was all that hullabaloo about symbiosis being rare from the first movie then?
@@eileensnow6153 besides that… it means venom is slower than a horse… the whole franchise speed feats cap out at “horse on steroids” level… nobody is faster than than a Toyota Corolla…
Riot and Scream were not in this movie…. Scream is bright yellow and red… wish we got to see her and more of Lasher and Christmas
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I blame the director.
She focused on too much irrelevant stuff.
The final fight scene was honestly brainrot for me.
Im.not sure it underperformed financially. Its at 400 million which was break even after theater splits.
And then storytelling is so disgustingly vapid
Never been this early before.
I disagree with this title. I love this movie. I thought it 10 times better than the second one.
Why is Otto Hightower in this fucking movie
I don’t think Tom hardy is an elite actor, he’s alright and I’m not usually impressed by his acting style. The venom voice acting and accent along with the corny jokes was just a huge let down for me. Should be played as more straight faced but I figure that won’t be as box office appealing. Wasn’t for me and the repetitive villain style of being venom like powers minus carnage was also a draw back to me
Can we just stop watching Sony movies?
Idiot