Animation Excellence: Chie - Kung Fu From The Soul

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  • @IkariTheWraith
    @IkariTheWraith 3 года назад +605

    "Chie doesn't actually know kung fu. She just watches a bunch of kung fu movies and then goes to the park to do backflips and flying kicks."
    *_N E E D T O M B O Y_*

  • @juniorjunior5884
    @juniorjunior5884 3 года назад +869

    P4 crew: Not trained, not experienced, not armed to the teeth...Just sheer will and grit to scrap with anyone.

    • @skunthundler
      @skunthundler 3 года назад +89

      A real tribute to the power of youthful determination.

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 3 года назад +66

      P4 is the best crew. Straight gangsta

    • @BestWayKilla
      @BestWayKilla 3 года назад +19

      That sounds like the description of every nondescript can that fills out on an actually talented fighter's record from before they became widely known. Best part about BBTag is it gives me the chance to treat them like exactly that XD

    • @kevinzhu6417
      @kevinzhu6417 3 года назад +50

      Chie and Kanji will throw hands on sight

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 года назад +30

      I think the implication is the main game dungeons was their training, idk. There's also cases like Kanji, Chie and Naoto who would have expertise in fighting somewhat already anyway

  • @HoodWeegee
    @HoodWeegee 3 года назад +669

    "Except for the robot, the bear mascot, and the talking cat"
    *Koromaru (a literal dog) whines sadly in the distance*

    • @HellNutcase
      @HellNutcase 3 года назад +34

      Well, he's just a dog. He doesn't even talk.

    • @caiomesquita268
      @caiomesquita268 3 года назад +55

      But he is best boy

    • @johnnyplto5592
      @johnnyplto5592 3 года назад +16

      dogs are real?

    • @enumaelish9193
      @enumaelish9193 3 года назад +33

      @@HellNutcase Do dogs throw sick flips while armed with bladed weapons often where you're from?

    • @HellNutcase
      @HellNutcase 3 года назад +19

      @@enumaelish9193 Yeah. I even fought him multiple times. Called Sif. Ever heard of him?

  • @bakujahn6430
    @bakujahn6430 3 года назад +597

    Yukiko: Elegance and grace are my strengths.
    Kanji: CHAIR GO THWACK

    • @MsDarkz123
      @MsDarkz123 3 года назад +62

      GETBENTGETBENTGETBENT!

    • @Rainbow_Snake
      @Rainbow_Snake 3 года назад +65

      Kanji saw people using bats that go "bonk" and said "I can do that, but even louder"

    • @christopherjones7023
      @christopherjones7023 3 года назад +17

      Thwackity thwack. Don't talk back! 😋😂

    • @a_creatorsstuff17
      @a_creatorsstuff17 3 года назад +10

      Thats the perfect way of putting it

    • @LeinRa-Reaction
      @LeinRa-Reaction 3 года назад +24

      what's kanji's favorite Dragon Quest spell?
      THWACK

  • @JAnne_Bonne
    @JAnne_Bonne 3 года назад +478

    I heard “make a fighting game out of a visual novel” and was surprised that Melty Blood wasn’t the only one to do that!

    • @Ihavenolifeorvideos
      @Ihavenolifeorvideos 3 года назад +46

      Queen of Heart, Glove on Fight, Eternal Fighter Zero
      Doujinsoft circles used to just go at it

    • @KiRAyylmao
      @KiRAyylmao 3 года назад +23

      visual novel fighting games go WAY back, Tokimeki taisen was in 97 before even guilty gear was around

    • @novikovPrinciple
      @novikovPrinciple 3 года назад +16

      @@Ihavenolifeorvideos Ah, yes, "Glove on Fight". For when a team wants to make a fighting game so bad that they don't even bother to change the temp-title they were using using during development.
      Adorable game.

    • @Ihavenolifeorvideos
      @Ihavenolifeorvideos 3 года назад +14

      @@novikovPrinciple literally a game created for testing purposes for melty blood's development

    • @armlesskirby
      @armlesskirby 3 года назад +9

      Shout outs to nitroplus blasterz for making a fighting game out of many visual novels

  • @Arrogantiger
    @Arrogantiger 3 года назад +44

    That's a lot of words for: "Chie best girl"

  • @astral_energy
    @astral_energy 3 года назад +355

    Imagine being bad at kung fu
    This is brought to you by the chie gang

    • @slothbaby2104
      @slothbaby2104 3 года назад +22

      Imagine not knowing how to read
      This is brought to you by the Naoto Society

    • @KentzHodiono
      @KentzHodiono 3 года назад +17

      Imagine liking girls
      This is brought to you by the Kanji gang.

    • @tomasfong40
      @tomasfong40 3 года назад +14

      @@KentzHodiono he actuady does like girls. If anything he might be bi. Dont quote me on that

    • @jeppyjep
      @jeppyjep 3 года назад +14

      Imagine being a good person
      This is brought to you by the Adachi clan

    • @tyrone2423
      @tyrone2423 3 года назад

      @@jeppyjep. I just started persona but isn't he the cop thatvhelps uncle.

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako 3 года назад +58

    While not in the ultimax games, I always liked Shinji's battle animations. Out of battle he is slouched and always has his hands in his pockets, but in battle, he stands firm and confidant and you can see his full towering height (5'10 which is huge for a Japanese male). He also is terminally ill from medication which is factored in his animations. When he misses a melee attack, he'll drop to his knees, put his hand on his mouth and cough and stumble. All the other characters just fall or miss, but Shinji is different with his illness causing him to miss. He also wields heavy weapons, such as an axe and even a stop sign, which he shouldn't be carrying since he's sick, which shows his more stubborn side as he doesn't want to be perceived as weak. His sickness is even more noticeable in the dancing games. Shinji's dance is stiff and restricted and can't pull off moves like his teammates can. Poor guy even falls multiple times mid dance and struggles to catch his breath. What's great about these animations is his illness isn't discussed until later after he joins the party, which means you saw his animations already and suspected he wasn't all healthy. Also take note of his appearance. He wears a beanie and heavy peacoat. Because of his harsh personality, you'd think its just his style. But when you hear about his illness, its explained that his body temperature doesn't regulate and needs warm clothing on all the time. Persona 3 legit made a terminally ill character work in battle flawlessly

  • @abbymems
    @abbymems 3 года назад +229

    I really hope that a P5 Arena happens. The P4 cast would have such fun and eccentric timeskip designs. Also if they go down the "Police Officer Chie" path, you could have some fun Chun-Li references in her moveset and animations as well!

    • @nikolaitheundying
      @nikolaitheundying 3 года назад +59

      I want jail Adachi in a prisoner uniform with his hands cuffed, but he still kicks ass like Cody.

    • @Birthday888
      @Birthday888 3 года назад +43

      Hmm... Yosuke would probably be in some kind of business suit, since he'd probably get some kind of managerial position at Junes. Not because of nepotism though. He'd probably be one of the most experienced members of the staff considering he's been working since highschool at the place.
      Wait.... Business suit. Dorky personality. Often the butt of a joke. Did Yosuke grow up to be Adachi, minus the sociopathy? XD
      We already know to a certain extent how Naoto and Rise changed over the years due to Naoto's spin-off, if Atlus decides if they want to keep it canon. I'm probably the most curious about Kanji's new look.

    • @TheShuuman
      @TheShuuman 3 года назад +33

      @@Birthday888 That is actually fascinating as Yosuke's initial reasoning behind going into the TV world were not all that different from Adachi personal world view. Gosh imagine if Adachi got to Yosuke first

    • @Rainbow_Snake
      @Rainbow_Snake 3 года назад +28

      @@TheShuuman "On that day... If our positions were switched... Would our fates be different? Would I have your life? And you mine?"

    • @elivcdxv1852
      @elivcdxv1852 3 года назад +8

      They actually do bring that up, so it'd be hype.
      Yu just becomes Phoenix Wright though.
      Probably reaching, but I could totally see Yu becoming some sort of detective or possibly taking up a line of work with Dojima, I think his personality would let him get through interrogations and the like pretty easily, not through COLD HARD FACTS(tm) but because he'd just be able to get people to talk by likely being himself, I think it's pretty interesting to think about what the P3 and 4 gangs might've been up to for the ones that were available during 5, and the thought of Narukami and probably Naoto too catching onto what's going on with the Phantom Thieves but being way too far out to provide any actual assistance directly is pretty cool.

  • @KahilaTheArtSlime
    @KahilaTheArtSlime 3 года назад +307

    As predicted, you really sold me on her character
    Its honestly adorable how she's flailing around with her kicks, I love it

    • @TheGreatDanish
      @TheGreatDanish 3 года назад +27

      Chie is the best character from the game. Sorely underrated for some reason, but out of everyone, she's the most earnest, honest, and upfront of the entire cast. Her problems aren't complex or world shattering. She isnt struggling with being transgender or gay in japan. She doesnt have a family legacy to maintain.
      She's a boyish girl who wants someone to call her pretty just once. And thats so incredibly normal and mundane it stands out in a universe with gods, robots, spirit bears, and talking cat cars.

    • @danaltamirano2546
      @danaltamirano2546 3 года назад +14

      @@TheGreatDanish Naoto isn´t transgender, and Kanji is not gay.
      How could you miss that?

    • @TheGreatDanish
      @TheGreatDanish 3 года назад +6

      @@danaltamirano2546 The complete lack of reading comprehension you have to have to look at Kanji's entire arc and come away with "hes not gay" is astounding. I know the English translation was told to tone the gay down by Altus but come on man. His shadow is literally repressed homosexuality.

    • @danaltamirano2546
      @danaltamirano2546 3 года назад +45

      @@TheGreatDanish It´s not repressed homosexuality, you didn´t get it.
      The problem with Naoto is not that she wants to be a man, is that she thinks women are not suited or treat equally in a lot of jobs (which is true) plus the idea of the "perfect detective" being a man. Sherlock, basically. If anything, what Naoto ended up wanting is to accept herself and start to make a wave within her own dream.
      Kanji is not gay. He started to think he was because neither girls wanted to be around him (due to him looking like a punk) and boys were also scared, but he have this whole "feminine" hobby that puts him in a situation where his sexuality is confronted. His whole channel is him thinking "well, maybe I´m gay" but his own SL shows that in the end is okay to be a man without having to imitate a delinquent, or a macho.

    • @TheGreatDanish
      @TheGreatDanish 3 года назад +1

      @@danaltamirano2546 lol

  • @GirinZan
    @GirinZan 3 года назад +53

    5:00 As someone who loves Chie but never played P4A before, i love how cute she looks when she does the kung-fu poses

  • @junkszy912
    @junkszy912 3 года назад +190

    I saw les miserables and knew you were going to show arm joe

    • @Mr.Maguro
      @Mr.Maguro 3 года назад +10

      arm joe makes street chavo look like a logical adaptation

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 года назад +2

      I love that I know what that sentence MEANS!
      XD

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 года назад

      2:45 wait a moment...
      OH
      DE
      SIIIIRE!
      XD

    • @Vesperitis
      @Vesperitis 3 года назад +2

      It's been like 20 years since I've seen someone reference arm Joe and its been worth the wait

  • @dropkickcorpse
    @dropkickcorpse 2 года назад +61

    I've come to appreciate Chie design and character wise after hearing what Lead Game Artist Shigenori Soejima had to say about her:
    “The concept for Chie’s design was ‘a cute girl who could actually exist in real life.’. Trying to design a game character who seems like someone you could meet in real life meant I needed to pay close attention to her appearance.
    The hardest part was probably getting the right balance between her features like her creased double eyelids set over appealingly large eyes, and her slightly duck-like mouth.
    Another tricky balancing act was the shape of her head, as it couldn’t be too long or too round.
    Once I had the shape of her head the way I wanted it, I still had to figure out how to put her hair on it. I was so picky that I convinced myself that I needed to rework her design quite a few times.
    One of the things that defines Chie as a character is her love of cheap, retro things like pins and other accessories.
    In some ways, Chie was the turning point that defined the overall design flavor of the entire game.
    I wanted to exaggerate the fact that the story takes place in a rural town, and one of the best ways to do that is to have someone running around in a jersey jacket.
    Unfortunately, the colors of a school jersey just didn’t look very nice within the context of the game, so I had to think of something else. That’s when I decided to try taking a retro-style approach to Chie’s jersey.
    That was a real light bulb moment for me, when I realized that anytime I needed to put something ‘utterly lame’ in to bring out the rural vibe, I could add a retro flavor to it to make it cool and in sync with the game’s atmosphere.
    This is how Chie single-handedly set the design foundation for the rest of the game. For this reason, I think it’s quite fair to say that Chie Satonaka truly embodies the identity of ‘Persona 4’, which may be why the game’s theme color (yellow) looks so darn good on her.”
    “Chie pays an average amount of attention to her fashion, and she dyes her hair. In order to preserve a certain level of believability, all of the characters in 'Persona 4’ were given relatively natural hair colors that you would expect to see regularly in real life.”
    -Soejima, Persona 4: Official Design Works 2012

  • @diegomt7901
    @diegomt7901 3 года назад +105

    My only problem with P4 Arena and Ultimax is that is was never ported to steam with Golden. It's a must

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 3 года назад +13

      Ideally with rollback netcode.

    • @opalander
      @opalander 2 года назад +8

      Well I got news for you

  • @EVERYWHERE_MAN
    @EVERYWHERE_MAN 3 года назад +49

    Chie will be best girl for me no matter what she’s like a girlfriend and best friend in one

  • @captsteampunk2773
    @captsteampunk2773 3 года назад +146

    Ah yes, chie.
    You never forget your first waifu.

    • @mariotaz
      @mariotaz 3 года назад +15

      @Tyrone Gilliard *raises glass*

    • @maybe183
      @maybe183 3 года назад +8

      @Tyrone Gilliard Here here!

    • @dilltamacipher8374
      @dilltamacipher8374 3 года назад +8

      cheers

    • @Nitram4392
      @Nitram4392 2 года назад

      Glad I was not the only one.

  • @torachan23
    @torachan23 3 года назад +273

    Anyone who emulates and shows respect for Bruce Lee is automatically amazing

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 3 года назад +35

      Fun fact: one of her alt outfits in Golden and Dancing All Night is the Game of Death jumpsuit.

    • @SuperLuigiKart64
      @SuperLuigiKart64 3 года назад +30

      One of her win quotes in Persona 4 is straight up "Don't think, feel." It's great.

    • @Red6095
      @Red6095 3 года назад +5

      I don't think that's necessarily true. Otherwise Rufus would be neat but... he isn't.

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 3 года назад +1

      @@Red6095 Rufus doesn’t emulate Bruce lee...

    • @OhNoTheFace
      @OhNoTheFace 3 года назад +5

      @@Red6095 He does not emulate nor show respect for Bruce Lee

  • @noampresnete8677
    @noampresnete8677 3 года назад +43

    my biggest take away is that theres a les misérables fighting game.

    • @IOTewks
      @IOTewks 2 года назад

      the one/two dozen Les Mis fighting game fans: "WILL U TAKE UR PLACE W/ MEEE"

  • @JTown465
    @JTown465 3 года назад +229

    I somehow completely forgot that Chie's idea of "training," is just... playing pretend power rangers in the park..
    Great video, you made this fellow Chie main happy!

    • @edwardsuou
      @edwardsuou 2 года назад +8

      Well.... even without a master she’s able to do high tier kicks smoothly.
      It’s obviously just an hobby but you should never lessen how far self-education can lead you.

    • @smartguy458
      @smartguy458 Год назад +4

      @@edwardsuou I agree. I mean, take someone like Shaina West: she's a self-taught martial artist, and now, she's a top tier stunt performer breaking boundaries. Also note that she draws inspiration from her love for anime, Japanese culture, motorbikes, samurai, and her profession as a personal trainer to become who she is now. And she did all that after a bad motorcycle accident. So for Chie, she could go a long way if she applies herself enough.

  • @Jirujan
    @Jirujan 3 года назад +38

    TBH, when i saw her for the first time, i instantly fell in love on her. her attack animation is reflected in her personality. when she's about to make a specific animation (or critical hit), she often do a warm-up (or stretching?), that's the prove that she knows she's not a real martial artist, and if she didn't do that she will place unnecessary stress on her heart, lungs, and muscle. (this is what google says)
    BTW, i wish they would port Persona 4 Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold to PC

  • @Sensko
    @Sensko 3 года назад +13

    Great vid and spot on.
    I'd also add that Chie is clearly having the time of her life doing all of this. There is just this childlike joy in everything she does from her eager idle stance to her grinning and turning away when Tomoe brings down the Godhand.
    Out of all the P4 cast she is clearly the one who enjoys fighting the most.

  • @lucasl3657
    @lucasl3657 3 года назад +144

    More visual novels need to be made into fighting games. - Tsukihime/Melty Blood Gang

    • @Omegashatter26
      @Omegashatter26 3 года назад +20

      And Fate/Unlimited Codes.

    • @UltimaSenkai
      @UltimaSenkai 3 года назад +20

      to be fair, blazblue IS a visual novel

    • @GoreHusbando
      @GoreHusbando 3 года назад +7

      And Umineko

    • @anzol4523
      @anzol4523 3 года назад +3

      more need to be made into fighting games.

    • @MEOW-dm6og
      @MEOW-dm6og 3 года назад +1

      Danganronpa fighting game omg, I would play the hell outta that.

  • @quicksilver446
    @quicksilver446 3 года назад +70

    I miss Ultimax so much. I used to play it bunch with my 1 other Persona-loving friend and it was fun at any skill level. I hope we see all those characters again one day in a Persona 5 Arena.

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 3 года назад +2

      You try Blazblue Cross Tag? I think most of the Investigation Team has been port up into it at this point.

    • @quicksilver446
      @quicksilver446 3 года назад +7

      @@professordetective807 Yeah, I enjoyed Cross Tag. Still have my fingers crossed to see a game with them interacting with the P5 cast (and if I'm really lucky, with their ultimate Personas).

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 3 года назад +9

      @@quicksilver446 | Oh yeah, Persona 5 Arena needs to happen.

    • @audiovisual51
      @audiovisual51 3 года назад +8

      Atlus being dumb and not releasing it on PC is a tragedy

    • @IAMNOTRANA
      @IAMNOTRANA 3 года назад +3

      Still waiting for p4u to be released on pc.
      God dammit.

  • @btTara
    @btTara 3 года назад +10

    Reminds me of the time Ann said that she never used a whip before, but somehow was just really good with it for one of the random Mementos talks. The developers knew how difficult it would be to write it in how a group of random teens got together and are all some how good at fighting, so they threw in this random explanation that they can only fight and move like this in the other world.

    • @typeoddnamehere2362
      @typeoddnamehere2362 2 года назад +3

      I think Ryuji is another example of what you're talking about. If he ran around outside of the metaverse like he does in it, he would probably exacerbate his leg injury possibly to the point of being unable to even walk properly.
      Okay, they do try to play this up for drama much later in the game, but still.

  • @arbetor12
    @arbetor12 3 года назад +9

    again proves why arc sys is the master of fighting games

  • @BlazingBlueSwords
    @BlazingBlueSwords 3 года назад +15

    Persona 4 Arena was one of my favorite fighting games I played, I played so much of that game that I could play every character in the roster with a basic understanding of their combos, type match ups, their mix-up game, and how to defeat them.
    I spent a lot of time playing Persona 4 Arena to know all of this, but it did introduce me to the Persona series so I'm thankful for that.

  • @ssjsylver
    @ssjsylver 3 года назад +8

    I've always loved how bouncy Chie was even before I ever knew what a persona was. She's probably the whole reason why I'm such an advant persona fan nowadays. The way she dances and fight really encapsulates her spunkiness and I just simply love that. Major props to the animation team for making such great animations for characters.

  • @emerald_lord2267
    @emerald_lord2267 3 года назад +7

    "And whatever heavy object Kanji can get his hands on" *Distant piano smash*

  • @marciachagas9731
    @marciachagas9731 3 года назад +72

    I felt in love with her since de 1st time I saw her because I was a Kung Fu movies addicted by the time I've played, so I identified with her SO MUCH it scared me! I love her strength, positivity and humor, she rocks her short hair and doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine". Shes the best 💚💚💚

    • @TheRasp10
      @TheRasp10 3 года назад +6

      here here

    • @JayAreAitch
      @JayAreAitch 2 года назад

      >doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine"
      She does pretty much exactly that, even if it was toned down in the English localisation. She's actually got a lot of internalised sexism.

  • @felman87
    @felman87 3 года назад +76

    Love the video. But Persona games, at least the later ones, always brings out the Waifu Wars in the comments. "We lost a lot of good people in the Waifu Wars" - Super Butter Buns.

    • @brandonontama2415
      @brandonontama2415 3 года назад +3

      I 100% understand you bro.

    • @valteine
      @valteine 3 года назад +13

      All of them are best girl. But especially Yosuke an Kanji.

    • @peaceribbon8322
      @peaceribbon8322 3 года назад +4

      Buns reference? Shut up and take my like.

  • @tornadoandy123
    @tornadoandy123 3 года назад +11

    4:10
    The Man with the Seven Scars... WATAAAHH!

  • @phosphorescenceking6114
    @phosphorescenceking6114 3 года назад +43

    I always love when you can watch a character in action and realize that they're self-taught, like they cobbled together their fighting style based on some surface-level ideas they had, and they just happen to be talented enough or work hard enough to make such a style viable. Shinada from Yakuza 5 is like this as well, he just fights like a street punk with a slight lean on some of his moves looking like sports attacks, like his football tackle; but then he also has very specific tendencies that make it clear he learned how to do these things by watching pro wrestling matches on TV and trying to emulate it. In fact, a lot of the yakuza games do a good job of making it believable that someone without proper training could be as strong as they are in combat, where strong characters may not have the proper form or stance, but they have plenty of muscle strength and endurance, flexibility, the reaction speed to make reasonable decisions at light speed, and the ability to think on the fly and use their environment.
    An example I like to think of is the mountain and viper in game of thrones, the guy with the mastery of his form isn't necessarily the stronger fighter against a big dude with basic but well oiled fighting instincts and speed. In any real fight, there's no perfect bulletproof plan; if you eat a bad hit, you can get knocked flat in an instant. Just because the opponent is "less skilled" or less proper in their practice doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.
    All that being said, I don't know if I can attribute this level of intrinsic meaning to the animation of Arena. Arena and all the other P4 spinoffs and remake were made by a B team at Atlus with none of the core creative staff or writers the original had, and it really shows in some pretty stark contradictions in characterization, basic theming, and overall writing quality. I highly doubt anyone in charge on Arena was, like, aware of this symbolic idea in Persona 4 and decided to express it in this game in a subtle manner. They literally write her entire character into meat girl for that game. The original already expressed that one's physical power is related to their heart and persona through the use of stats which are directly correlated with the persona, not the actual human, and because even if a human has weapons, they are physically incapable of fighting shadows until they get a persona, meaning it was always the persona's power that let them fight through whatever means they chose.

    • @migueeeelet
      @migueeeelet 3 года назад +8

      If there's something to take away from Yakuza...
      is that bikes are the best weapon.

    • @lemmingrad
      @lemmingrad 3 года назад +5

      The way you describe a self-taught fighter, reminds me of Travis Touchdown, especially now that I remember, like Chie, he learned all his swordplay and wrestling from watching VHSes.

  • @theatricks1511
    @theatricks1511 3 года назад +2

    This is a fantastic video, I don't want to sound greedy but I honestly would have killed for more examples but it's still great. I never realized this about P4AU's animation, and you couldn't have picked a better example. A great way to communicate Persona's ideas in a fighting game. Pointing out how Tomoe actually launches Chie for her Dragon Kick and how that literally turns her fake kung fu into something threatening via the power of Persona is a great way to get the ideas across.

  • @azrieldreamer
    @azrieldreamer 3 года назад +7

    Chie is one of,if not my favorite characters. Love the video

  • @Fae2705
    @Fae2705 3 года назад +2

    Kung Fu is said to be superior skill derived from hard work, dedication and determination. Add a persona to that and you have something scary.

  • @aRBy125
    @aRBy125 3 года назад +1

    I actually have the P4A Official Design Works book. It's really neat the decisions that went into fleshing out the characters from the ArcSys side and what Atlus would and wouldn't let them do. In regards to Chie, some of the notes in the sprite animations mention details like Chie being off-balance during some of her moves, so it definitely plays to your analysis. After all this time, Persona 4 Arena (Ultimax) is still one of my favorite fighting games! ^^ (Yukiko Main)

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 3 года назад +7

    5:00 this should be shown To those outside the Persona fandom

  • @mizului7484
    @mizului7484 3 года назад +1

    I played Bbtag for a loooong itme now, and I just now realized that Tomoe propelled Chie to do a dragon kick... You learn something everyday.

  • @urielcagnotti
    @urielcagnotti 3 года назад +2

    As always, love this animation excellence series. Love your videos! And I always revisit the MK ones to have a laugh lol.

  • @Ajay-pj2hv
    @Ajay-pj2hv 3 года назад

    Beautiful.... I love watching these videos because these educates me about the small detailing and storytelling artists puts in characters from their character designs, moves and interactions

  • @ProfessorStein26
    @ProfessorStein26 Год назад +1

    One of my favorite interactions in all of fighting games comes from Blazblue Cross Tag Battle where Azrael meets Chie, sees her throwing out wild un-trained kung fu moves that still work and coming to the conclusion that this teenage tomboy from rural japan is doing the same thing he is. Holding back and throwing out obvious attacks with poor form to make fights last longer and get more fun out of it. Azrael, the Mad Dog, The Canibal, the guy in Blazblue who's entire gimmick is being so physically strong he can toss magical gods around takes one look at Chie and thinks, "This girl gets it." Chie is disturbed by this, especially when hearing her fighting game exclusive title makes him double down on his read of her.

  • @Kev-D-OG
    @Kev-D-OG 2 года назад

    This was an absolutely fantastic video! I'm totally gonna binge all your P4 videos now because I'm curious to see how you discuss the other characters!

  • @Owiion
    @Owiion 3 года назад +1

    Oh I love this. This series your working on. The amount of attention you are paying to the little details, and then bringing them forward. Bringing a microscope to something as tiny, but as carefully designed, as some animations in a spin off fighting game. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Please keep up the amazing work!

  • @def702
    @def702 3 года назад

    always love watching your vids

  • @KoylTrane
    @KoylTrane 3 года назад +5

    Dragon kicking enemy asses to the Milky way, just like Gene taught

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt 2 года назад

      oh shit now I got the song stuck in my head

  • @nosherkhan3232
    @nosherkhan3232 3 года назад +4

    Thanks guys, was wondering where you went.

  • @MortimerZabi
    @MortimerZabi Год назад +2

    I just love the easter egg in Persona 5 implying that Akihiko ended up becoming a cop while Chie followed not too far behind and was at the academy during the course of the game. IF those two ever get a buddy cop spinoff it would be hilariously bad for all of Japan's protein.

  • @mas8705
    @mas8705 3 года назад +5

    It really does make me wonder the kinds of interactions she would have with Akihiko if their interactions did expand out further than just Arena.
    You have someone who has basically devoted himself to the Art of Boxing (and protein). He chose the sport because, “I know what it’s like to be powerless,” and becomes so proficient, he can apparently dodge bullets (or in his case, he knows about avoiding being targeted. Can’t imagine why he would learn that, can you? /s).
    Part of me feels like that conversation (if expanded on) would seemingly go two ways. The first would be an embrace of following your passion. The other is to probably get that formal training so that the king fu would not only be what it should, but so that she can be even stronger for it.
    That and I wonder if our protein loving fighter would look at Chie’s Kung Fu and call it that. Within the setting of Persona 4 (and by extent, Arena), it is as genuine as Chie makes it. But in the real world, it would be interesting to see if he would still think that or not.
    Either way, the Persona fighting game was definitely a stroke of genius. Out of everything we’ve gotten from Persona 5, it is a bit of a shocker that we haven’t seen “Persona 5 Arena” yet (or even something as simple as “Joker Joins Blazblue Cross Tag!”).

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 3 года назад

      I've seen sequel fics with them both ending up in the police force together, often with Makoto, Naoto, and Katsuya showing up, too.

  • @sebasulgc6629
    @sebasulgc6629 3 года назад +1

    Loved the video!

  • @zachcarter4197
    @zachcarter4197 3 года назад +3

    That's like making a fighting game out of a visual novel.
    Me: starts giggling.
    Uhhhh... that's like trying to make a fighting game out of a musical.
    Me: Starts laughing even harder.

    • @keihaii
      @keihaii 3 года назад

      Can you tell me what’s the name of the on that’s based ob musical? I really want to check that out

  • @gamerdude7576
    @gamerdude7576 3 года назад +1

    While i loved the animation done by every character in arena, what sold me was what they did with yosuke's character and the implied backslide as well as growth he underwent durring his own story, to the point where I see his story as the most canonically possible in the arena storyline. I'd love it if you did an abitorial on yosuke to pair with adachi's

  • @Gxyz222
    @Gxyz222 3 года назад +3

    Chie is quite literally the Kung Fu Master of Disaster!

  • @chickrepelant
    @chickrepelant 3 года назад +2

    I've been hearing about the fandom for years, and this is the FIRST time i've ever been interested in diving in.

  • @Mito383
    @Mito383 3 года назад +4

    I so wish we could get a P4A/P4AU re-release on Switch.

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 3 года назад +1

      A PC port wouldn't go amiss, either.

    • @HellNutcase
      @HellNutcase 3 года назад

      Noone plays fighting games on Switch, because they have Smash.

    • @kuzunohaxiv7912
      @kuzunohaxiv7912 3 года назад

      @@HellNutcase Because everyone plays on Wi-Fi and you're force to buy an arcade stick, switch controllers are ass

  • @himasekiwari155
    @himasekiwari155 3 года назад

    Nice vid dude!

  • @pfunk6945
    @pfunk6945 3 года назад

    God, you make some good videos.

  • @diegoguerra7603
    @diegoguerra7603 3 года назад +3

    just a small correction, in P1, Ayase use a whip and Yukino use razor blades
    in P2 not every character uses guns, and three characters use really specific weapons, Jun use Flowers, Eikichi use Guitar Cases and Baofu use Coins
    anyway great video

  • @Kevin-qh1ve
    @Kevin-qh1ve 3 года назад

    Good video, but it's too short :<
    Looking forward for more animation analysis videos!

  • @KaiKrimson56
    @KaiKrimson56 3 года назад +4

    I never played P4G, but she seems like a relateable character since I like to do kicks and punches when I'm alone in the house and I too think steak is the best meat besides fajita. I also never considered until now how fighting games design characters vs JRPGS, visual novels, etc.

  • @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
    @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 3 года назад +1

    Hearing the JUNES tune took me WAAAAY back. That was my ringtone from Highschool to 1st year College.

  • @bunnybreaker
    @bunnybreaker 3 года назад

    As soon as I saw the title, I knew the contents. I never actually played Persona 4, but played a lot of the fighting games. Chie was my favourite character, and the animation was part of it. Great break down of it 👌🏼

  • @giloguy101
    @giloguy101 3 года назад +1

    Another way to tell how Chie is visually not a trained fighter is comparing her idol stance to the other hand to hand fighters in Bbtag
    Akihiko and Akatsuki both use accurate boxing and karate stances respectively and are clearly very well trained
    Yang and Makoto both use more fictional stances, with Makoto particularly bouncing with energy, but they both have a clear amount of guard up
    Even Naoto Kurogane, who fights very wildly and seemingly also self taught, has a visible guard up and looks balanced on his feet
    But Chie has none of this and is instead just bouncing enthusiastically on the spot, because she's not thinking about having to guard and instead is just going with the flow

  • @bonelesssnek5130
    @bonelesssnek5130 3 года назад +2

    2:47 melty blood has entered the chat

  • @ingioromarsson8214
    @ingioromarsson8214 3 года назад

    Was wondering when Persona 4 Arena was going to get covered :) great video btw

  • @richarddavis2530
    @richarddavis2530 3 года назад +1

    Galactic punt! To the MEAT DIMENSION!

  • @Mclucasrv
    @Mclucasrv 3 года назад +1

    How not to love this woman animation...she is just too precious.

  • @bananabike279
    @bananabike279 2 года назад +1

    Love the way she's animated! I really need to play P4 Arena someday

  • @HuascarRadio
    @HuascarRadio 3 года назад

    I would love to see you cover other characters from P4A!

  • @Taktaagic
    @Taktaagic 3 года назад +4

    I'mma be honest... I thought Chie actually knew stuff about Kung-Fu, cuz I only played Cross Tag Battle.
    Now I kinda feel like an idiot lol

    • @Poet482
      @Poet482 3 года назад +5

      She's juuuuust competent enough to sell the illusion lol

    • @Taktaagic
      @Taktaagic 3 года назад +1

      @@Poet482 That's true!

    • @marley7868
      @marley7868 2 года назад

      she knows something just it's just self taught so there's a ton movie influences too

  • @Viviantoga
    @Viviantoga 3 года назад

    This video feeds my soul.

  • @shinigamimiroku3723
    @shinigamimiroku3723 2 года назад

    There are a lot of issues I have with Chie's character outside of her SLs and combat, but as someone who also grew up on Bruce Lee movies and the like, I absolutely love her combat motif, and ever since getting Arena Ultimax I've really enjoyed playing as her (although Yukiko is still my preferred playstyle). I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head regarding how Arena handles how each character works and WHY it works.

  • @Demi-kid
    @Demi-kid 3 года назад

    Arena was the first persona that got me into.
    Hot damn that character select screen music is hit fire.

  • @SaviorGabriel
    @SaviorGabriel 3 года назад

    This video has further reinforced something that I've always believed in. That you can make a fighting game out of anything.

  • @malik2978
    @malik2978 3 года назад +2

    Video on P4 arena in 2021 fantastic! I would love if you would do a video on Yu I wanna see how his blank slate translated to a fighting game from someone who is versed in the medium

  • @Gebunator
    @Gebunator Год назад

    on the weapons P4 cast picks, I remember there is implications that since they feel confident and more familiar with the weapons they picked, they actually can damage the foes in TV realm (no doubted aided b y their called out personas), Like the first scene when they pick weapons, they pick what feels right to them.
    Kanji, as probably the only guy with real fighting experience considering his history, is gonna be condifent with pretty much anything.. so.. he basically grabbed a chair. Chie, I say she has kung fu skils, just unrefined and lacking control. She always looks like she is putting her whole body into wild spiral when kicking.

  • @WarriorV8
    @WarriorV8 2 года назад

    The Violin part pf her theme is pure eargasm

  • @MrThisucks
    @MrThisucks 3 года назад +3

    Maybe she just fights in a style meant to be flashy, like a peacock. Peacock style

  • @Keokithederp
    @Keokithederp 3 года назад +2

    I was kinda hoping you'd go into a little bit of discussion of why she works and Rufus from Street Fighter doesn't even tho they're both "kung fu fighters" who just imitate stuff they saw in movies.

  • @GigaMan91
    @GigaMan91 3 года назад +1

    I'm a big fat Chie fan. Best Persona character hands down.

  • @matteste
    @matteste 3 года назад +3

    Sad no mention or even passing acknowledgement that Persona 2 exist with it's all adult cast and some odd weapon choices. I mean, one uses flowers and another uses coins.

  • @thomasthecoolkid7228
    @thomasthecoolkid7228 3 года назад +1

    Please talk about BlazBlue or Under Night In-Birth character designs and animations. The work that goes into them is insane.

  • @mattias1056
    @mattias1056 3 года назад +4

    As much as I love the P4 cast, my favourite in Arena has got to be Labrys.

  • @KuroShiiiro
    @KuroShiiiro 3 года назад +4

    I LITERALLY just subbed an hour ago and now you have a video on my favorite party member? whats next, a kanji video?

    • @HellNutcase
      @HellNutcase 3 года назад

      Still waiting for that P4A IK rating.

  • @sawkchalk6966
    @sawkchalk6966 3 года назад

    That was incredibly wholesome

  • @lpenrike
    @lpenrike 3 года назад +1

    i wonder if these dudes will ever do a video on God Hand

  • @Lucain24
    @Lucain24 3 года назад +4

    DO THE COSTUMES FOR PERSONA 5 ROYAL PLEASE!!!! All of their costumes have meaning and I wanna know how you feel about them!!

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris 3 года назад

    This is great. Love having Chie’s design from P4A broken down. It really works nicely for her.

  • @zR0y4l7y
    @zR0y4l7y 3 года назад

    God I love p4 arena so much man.

  • @LeemVonNelly
    @LeemVonNelly 3 года назад +1

    Game: persona 4 arena Actual game: blazblue crosstag battle

  • @HeroEmiya
    @HeroEmiya 3 года назад

    One of the few channels where i put like without even watching it first

  • @nixcia7584
    @nixcia7584 2 года назад

    its also to note that chie doesn't back down either, in her social link when a kid is getting shaked down for money chie steps in to stop it and when the muggers threaten to hurt her she just says " go ahead"

  • @josephwilliams9030
    @josephwilliams9030 3 года назад +84

    5:51 god i love kanji so much. Like he's getting ready to go into the tv and he's just like "uummm shit, okay, shit, what do i do, i mean i need something uuummm, this, this will do!" proceeds to lift forty pound shield to go hit people with.

    • @appelofdoom8211
      @appelofdoom8211 3 года назад +32

      In the first arena game he accidentally falls into the plot unlike the rest of the non-tedie investigation team.
      Meaning he woke up in the tv world without a weapon. So he picked up a chair and started beating the fuck out of people. That’s why kanji is the best.

    • @josephwilliams9030
      @josephwilliams9030 3 года назад +6

      @@appelofdoom8211 thank you for that tid bit. I love it.

    • @returnedtomonkey8886
      @returnedtomonkey8886 3 года назад +6

      @@appelofdoom8211 A true Hero of action. Don't think, just smash

  • @kuzunohaxiv7912
    @kuzunohaxiv7912 3 года назад +1

    I'm more of a Naoto man myself but I see you, I see you

  • @Hailstormful
    @Hailstormful 3 года назад

    This idea seems further expanded in P5, where all characters seem to wield glorified toys as weapons in the worlds of mementos and the palaces...
    The bullets and blades are purely an expression of their own willpower and rebellion... SYMBOLISM!!!

  • @TheTrueSavior
    @TheTrueSavior 3 года назад

    OH HELL YEAH A VIDEO ON THE KICK ASS KUNG-FU CARNIVORE

  • @Ren_kurogane_CK
    @Ren_kurogane_CK 3 года назад

    Honestly I’d really like a mini series looking at all of the persona arena characters and how the basic philosophies relate to the rest of them. Maybe if/when p5 arena is announced

  • @exaltedfalcheon1793
    @exaltedfalcheon1793 2 года назад

    Parappa: Ya gotta do what?
    Chie: I just gotta believe
    Parappa: I'm so proud of you!

  • @ScorchedEclipse
    @ScorchedEclipse 3 года назад

    as someone who got super late into persona series, i'm still awaiting persona 5 arena, i'm also sad to have missed out on persona 4 characters in an FG

  • @carlazuz3985
    @carlazuz3985 3 года назад

    I hope you talk about some of the other designs in persona arena

  • @Poet482
    @Poet482 3 года назад

    Chie is best girl in all of Persona. The animation in the fighting games is fantastic, and I even own the book describing their key frames as the designers give notes on how to inform the character's personality. Chie swings too hard and with poor form, so she keeps having to catch herself from falling over if you watch the full animations. It's great stuff.
    Now here the kicker, P4 Arena was my first experience with Persona as a whole, before going back and starting at the beginning, P3FES, at the suggestion of my friend who showed it to me. I picked Chie from her design and animations alone, and its fitting that she's rushdown. It's doubly amazing considering that when I actually got to P4G, Chie became my waifu, and that's after knowing everything about the character. The fact that P4 Arena's animations sold me on her character before I otherwise knew what she was about as a character is a testimate to how well they captured the essence of the cast of P4 as well as P3.
    Also, watching the menus of P4 Arena before playing the base games was so confusing I'll never forever it. Confusing in an intriguing way. "Okay, we're going into a TV, there's a guy with a long nose dealing out cards, there's a talking teddie bear, and also some of the older fighters are regularly shooting themselves in the head for some reason. Seems cool, and I *need* to know what's going on here." Lol great into to the series.