Colorado mom tried to warn Amazon about unsafe product being sold to minors
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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The retail giant Amazon missed years-long opportunities to pull a chemical with a documented history of being used by young people to end their lives, KING 5 Investigators and 9NEWS Investigates found.
Amazon sold 99% strength sodium nitrite, a common meat preservative, for years after red flags came into the company about the misuse of the product as a suicide agent, according to legal documents. Amazon pulled the product from its site in October 2022 - six years after the first recorded online complaint from a grieving parent.
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Why are minors allowed to have Amazon accounts...
That was my thoughts.
Ebay helped me start a business at 13 years old. Camera, computer & speaker parts.
Because adults want to give their minor children accounts.
Now that's the real question here.
exactly!
Unfortunately it is available from over 30 other different websites, because it is considered a food grade product. Sad that this is happening. Talk to your children, have conversations with them and keep communications open. The world is different now with social media and the internet. We as parents have to be ever vigilant with our children.
It's not worse than table salt. Cut out the B's. Go educate yourself.
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse Allow me to educate you with the description of the product sold on the Amazon website, Since the story has to do with Amazon and selling to minors.
Description 100% Pure Food Grade Sodium Nitrate used in the curing process to prevent botulism poisoning for long aged meats like country hams. Its commercial use is prohibited by the FDA in smoked and cooked meats, non-smoked and cooked meats, sausages or bacon and is restricted to 200ppm in dry cured uncooked products. Usage for home curing should not exceed 0.1g per 500g of meat. During the curing process Sodium Nitrate is converted into Sodium Nitrite by microorganisms present on the meat. Sodium Nitrite provides the characteristic flavor and red color associated with curing. Other Details Dietary Attributes: Plant-Based, Non-GMO, Gluten-Free, Kosher (OU), Keto-friendly Ingredient List: Sodium Nitrate Allergen(s): None Documentation: Spec/SDS/COA/Misc.
These are the medical concerns sodium nitrite (SN) is an inorganic salt that appears as a slightly yellowish crystalline solid, odorless, and highly soluble in water at room temperature. It is highly toxic to humans at specific doses because it can oxidize hemoglobin to methemoglobin, causing severe tissue hypoxia.
Definition of hypoxemia is abnormally low oxygenation of the blood. It is distinguished from hypoxia, in which tissue oxygen (O2) delivery is inadequate to sustain normal cellular aerobic metabolism.
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse Sodium nitrite can be deadly if ingested in large quantities. It's a toxic chemical that can cause severe methemoglobinemia and death. The lethal dose for humans has been estimated to be as low as 330 mg/kg, but in rodents it's estimated to be 150-250 mg/kg. Sodium nitrite is a powerful oxidizing agent that can cause: Hypotension, Limited oxygen transport and delivery, and Methemoglobin formation.
@@suprememasteroftheuniversewhat is b’s? So salt is worse than sugar now? How about saturated fats? Msg?
It’s also used as a component to some fertilizers so you can find it in many hardware stores, nurseries, and even garden departments at big box stores.
As a mother I can see why she's suing. She's hurt and angry, justifiably so. But it's not Amazon's fault. Until we address the issue of bullying in schools, we are going to keep losing children to suicide. What's really sad to me is that there's been no progress on that front for years. My oldest is 40 years old. He came out in the 8th grade. What resulted was a catastrophe. Tried changing schools which made it better but the damage was done. He tried to take his life 3 times. Thank God he failed at it but the schools don't seem to have gotten any better. It's always "tell them to ignore it" or "don't worry about their opinion" but that puts the responsibility for it on the child being bullied. How about talking to the bullies and their parents?? How about some repercussions for the ones who terrorize others like that?
Absolutely well said
Spot on
Amazon gets a pass from me. Bullies on the other hand...
Bullies are NOTHING NEW!! I am a nearly 40 year old fully disabled combat veteran and Atheist who is 5'6 and was 120 lbs in high school (now I'm 170lbs) so I was picked on A TON IN SCHOOL!! You HAVE TO RAISE YOUR KIDS TO BE TOUGHER!! Stop demanding the schools do more and DO MORE AS PARENTS!!
Well, stopping Amazon would be a good first step. Our country seems to be wanting to elect the biggest bully
When my son was 10, his personality started to change. I KNEW something was wrong, i sat him down and asked him. He was being bullied. I took care of it, he went on to be his happy self again. When he turned 15, i found an obituary he was writing for himself. I immediately asked him what was going on. He was depressed. I took him to a mental facility and he was admitted for a month. He got counseling and got better. He is 35 now, and ok.
I feel for this mom and the other families, but these people would have found ways to get it done, unfortunately. We HAVE to be diligent in paying attention to our children i know it's not always easy to spot things, but it seems children do change in personality when they are younger & bad things are happening in their lives. I don't want to blame this momma or any other parent because we can't be with them 24/7, but we must pay attention. I see parents sending their children to school when they are constantly being bullied, then that child commits S. WHY, WHY would you send you child somewhere where this is happening??? That is just one example of paying attention to your kids. I am no expert, but we have to be in tune with our kids.
Does your son live with you?
I have a 17 years old on the autism spectrum! Every day I ask him how was his day, and I make sure to ask often if all the teachers treat him and the other students fair, and if anyone has been a bully to him. He had been bullied before and the boy hurt him. The school proved from cameras that the boy was all the time bullying him.
Situation sucks, but you know how many thousands of things anyone can buy to fulfill their wish? Ban one thing, another will be found 😑
Exactly. Next they'll want Amazon to stop selling over-the-counter painkillers, like Advil or Tylenol.
Exactly. Why wouldn't she put more effort into helping parents understand how to help their emotionally hurting children? Amazon can ban it or make it harder to buy, but then you still have the problem of a child in severe emotional pain that a parent could not recognize was in pain and could not help...
@@levelintentnah
Duh. They have to know that but need a scapegoat.
If they sold painkillers and also recommended a bottle of booze to wash it down tho?
So having “recommends” along with the deadly salt that help keep it down and thus preventing vomiting, thats way different.
A teen can also buy enough Tylenol at any gas station to do the same thing.
Not true. It would take a huge amount of Tylenol to die from. Any kid buying it at a brick and mortar store would raise suspicion.
@@NoNameNumberTwo Oh please there are a million things anyone could easily buy to do this. This is a totally disingenuous nothing burger story. Everyone has free will and can make their own choices it's not a safety/product issue AT ALL. This is a mental health issue.
@@NoNameNumberTwo 12 g of acetaminophen in adults is considered a toxic dose and carries a high risk of liver damage. A single bottle of Tylenol Extra Strength contains 50 g. You can dig around the Internet and find the fatal dose. It isn't much. Not a pleasant way to go.
Which somebody could take. I tried to do it that way when I was 12 ( I am now 28), they had to give me charcoal, to save me. The Doctor told me if the charcoal hadn't worked. What would have happened is my liver would eventually shut down, and I would have slowly unalived over 2 weeks. As there would have been no way someone would have given me a liver, after an attempt. @NoNameNumberTwo
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 2:36 They obviously understand what people are buying this for and the algorithm is doing this for a reason. There is no reason that this reason shouldn't require a business license.
Although this is sad, it is a tricky situation... Even if this chemical was banned, someone that feels this kind of desperation will find another chemical, or another way to achieve their goal. And anyways, any product, in large enough quantities, will be dangerous to the human body and can be found very easily... either online or on a shelf.
Also, the root of the problem is not the ease of buying these products, but what pushed the people to buy them in the first place, i.e. bullying, mental illness, depression, etc.
our friend was watched by her dad and brother and when they fell asleep she did it sometimes. all the precaution advice even love isn’t enough to stop someone like our dear friend she found another way and sadly died
This is not a tricky situation. It's a nothing burger. The person has free will and made a choice to do this. There are a million things one can buy anywhere to have the same result for any minor. This is not a product issue it's a mental health issue that should be the topic of discussion. I mean potassium chloride salt substitute at a grocery store can easily stop ones heart. This video is poor reporting.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeepnot exactly. The buyer was a minor. 16 yr children are generally not considered to be of sound mind. The plaintiff clearly stated that the danger was Amazon's Market was decisively promoting and selling the substance to minors. They don't allow all types of stuff both legally restricted and not because of the danger (mostly cause they'll get sued). THE ALGORITHM IS WHAT'S KEY HERE & it makes sense with other oddities in Amazon
@@annegreenwood3624 so what? No one cares. Stop creating scapegoats for your crimes.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep exactly
How did this child have an account that would allow him to make this purchase?
From the Amazon website:
"If you are under 18, you may use the Amazon Services only with involvement of a parent or guardian."
Pay attention to what your kids are doing, folks.
I asked the same, did he have unlimited access to order with their card or account??? They didn't monitor what was happening under their noses.
Restrict sales to adults only. Selling it to minors should be as illegal as selling liquor to minors.
@@ulexite-tv All sales on Amazon are limited to adults only, as I pointed out in my post. The service may not be used by anyone under 18 without the involvement of a parent or guardian.
@@ulexite-tv more control? Are we supposed to actually control everything single thing that might be harmful??? That's absurd.
Government isn't a good parent.
Parents need to be parents.
If someone wants to die, there are many ways, are we supposed to restrict absolutely everything that can cause a death?
It's not difficult to consider a 16 year old can obtain 5 minutes privacy to order online, or that the family was still logged into A account which he then orders, or autofill of bank info etc..
My deepest condolences to them. I really admire her for trying.
She is trying to blame someone who had no responsibility in her child’s suicide.
Deepest condolences, indeed. Losing a child has got to be extremely painful. She just wants to spare other parents from going through the same thing. I hope they find healing and peace, but know that will take a long time.
Amazon should think of a way to keep people from purchasing dangerous products. If you try to buy products from a lab, they have a process for doing this. Amazon could adopt this.
Why admire a money-grabber?
Amazon doesn't care. It costs less to care than to change anything .
i DON'T THINK THIS IS AN AMAZON ISSUE.
They sell razor blades, ropes and rat poison. Should everything that can kill a person be banned from Amazon?
@@OttotheWatchdog GOOD FOR YOU. WHY ARE WE YELLING?
he could have purchased anything anywhere, don't blame amazon.
@@tigrehermanothey know that. They want a big settlement.
Why did the child choose suicide? What was the cause to drive that choice? Why is this Amazon fault? Why weren't these kids getting help and in therapy?
Cause MOST PARENTS let the internet raise their kids.
What are other uses for sodium nitrite?
@@SoundsBogus Preservative, metallurgy and dyes. That is what is was invented for.
@@SoundsBoguslook at your average pack of bacon, it’s a food preservative.
either meds or same reasons people get addicted to drugs/alcohol - lack of support systems, feeling alone, being bullied, etc person wants to stop whatever pain they are in. reddit has a forum for people considering early life ending - its worth a read. also worth a read are some websites where people can openly discuss options, sometimes they offer some background.
Sodium nitrate can be legally purchased from many different places and sites. There are no legal purchasing restrictions on it just like there are no purchasing restrictions on bleach or multitudes of other non-FDA approved chemicals that can kill you. A 10 year-old can go to the supermarket and walk out with a gallon of Clorox. If you buy and ingest something that's not made to be ingested, that's your fault. And if you have a problem with that, you should go after the government for making it legal to purchase.
Thats not what its about, its about the fact amazon sells it as a product to be consumed and even sells products along side it to make it easier to consume, that would be like making a version of bleach thats easy to drink and you market it as something to be drank.
wrong chemical dude
Tactless….. a child died man…..
people die drinking too much water. It's not the product's fault the child wanted to die. Mom is blaming Amazon rather than herself.
@@DeezNuts-hf2xmit’s not to be consumed it’s sold as a chemical reagent for chemists.
This video just informed people how to commit suicide. Why did they mention the actual product? This video should be taken down.
It's a known product for years so at this point a public is what's needed now
@@KILLKING110I have to agree somewhat…I didn’t know and I’m in my 40s. For sure there’s others who don’t.
@@halo9ladysame here
@@halo9lady Same. Also no attempt to scare people away by saying it's painful and slow.
if people are going to do it they are going to do it, withholding information from the entire public thinking it will save a few people is kinda ignorant.
I feel sad for these parents and really never thought I’d take Amazon’s side on anything, but this really doesn’t sound like it’s Amazons fault.
It is real job for parents, not Amazon job to take care of your kid. First place Amazon account, bank account, where kid get money from?
So we are upset at the sale of a product rather than the root cause of why a kid feels the need to take his life. Seems legit. Should probably ban the sale of rope next.
Imagine if you took the same energy you put into having amazon removing a product into understanding mental health and depression.
I think what’s more disturbing is its interface of recommending products to keep this product down once ingested, but it is not meant to be swallows whole.
Right...
So true
Or why isn't she even going after websites advising people how to do it? I'd be going after getting those taken down as well.
@@AngryOvariesthose sites are actually allowed under the 1st amendment. Not only that but assisted suicide is legal in some states and other countries.
It's not the sodium nitrite or Amazon at fault. They're carrying a legal product that a lot of people use.I have some in the house now for curing meats.
Can minors even (officially and legally) have an Amazon account? Who's credit card was used to buy it?
As far as Amazon goes, they (probably) didn't know they were even selling to a minor. If they're guilty of anything, it's probably more for not having enough or adequate protocols for identity purchase verification. Especially for certain products.But I feel even that would be on the user end to activate were it to be an available option. But even then, people hate adding any extra steps between them and instant gratification.
💯!!!
YOU CAN BUY TATTOO MACHINES WITHOUT A TATTOO LICENSE....im an apprentice and 2me that was ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE AND WILD.
deff more protocols need to be put in place, but this is ABSOLUTELY NOT amazons fault.
Same. I have used it to cure meats.
You can tattoo yourself with a needle and candle sout for free, at home, as a minor
Not to mention, how did it get delivered unnoticed also
sorry to say lady but thats not amazons fault.
I'm no fan of Amazon but there are many industrial items for sale across the web not just Amazon that are equally lethal.
@@daveb2280yeah, we really should have better oversight. Great idea.
Exactly!💯
This is nuts, they would literally have to stop selling everything
I know!
“Literally stop selling everything”? Wow, a bit overly dramatic to say the least!
@@TopoGigio555so is blaming 1 in a million products they sell for their child’s decision to misuse it to commit suicide.
@@doc-vg9lq Exactly!
Exactly
I’m sorry that she lost her child, but calling for Amazon to ban a product that has legitimate uses isn’t fair to the people that buy it for its intended purpose. What next? Ban rope, razors, knives, bleach, plastic bags, Tylenol etc?
Maybe DON'T MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO MINORS??
@@jlcii Or better question: why was he being allowed to make purchases unsupervised by his parents as a minor? Did he have his own Amazon account with his own credit card? Was he using his parents’ account? Did they not inspect packages he was receiving? Amazon can’t see the ages of people making purchases.
like making guns inaccessible to minors? Yeah that works
@@jlciithat sounds like a job for mom and dad, not Amazon. Why was a minor able to purchase products without parental consent.
@@kikimabProbably had a friend get it.
So if I go to Home Depot and buy rat poison and eat it I can sue Home Depot? If I go to Walmart and buy drain cleaner and drink some I can sue them? This is stupid.
This mother is obviously in pain and looking for someone to blame other than herself , I don’t think her son’s suicide is her fault but she may subconsciously think that
No, if home depot starts marketing rat poison as edible and even makes products along side it to make it easier to keep down, yes.
this mom is refusing to take accountability for her parenting skills or lack of them.
the examples you gave clearly state on product its poison, while some things sold and marketed as safe to ingest are in fact very dangerous/deadly.
@@randyearles1634 the poison is in the dose.
They have legitimate uses for the average person. What are you going to do with Sodium Nitrite?
I am so sorry for your loss! I can’t begin to imagine what you’re going through! Sending hugs and prayers! ❤
Not Amazon's fault.
So many heartless comments on here. This mom said she lives with the guilt everyday because of this. My daughter wanted to set her room on fire to die of smoke inhalation and told a friend. Her friend told me. My daughter was so deeply depressed, but was so good at faking happiness, that she wasn’t understanding that setting her room on fire would destroy the whole house. She spent a week in the hospital for treatment. Don’t be so harsh on the parents…..these kids are great at faking happiness around us. My heart goes out to them. ❤
Unfortunately, he could of digest bleach, or any other stuff. Mental health…
They know that. Pure money grab.
Exactly!💯
Mother that is wanting a ban on things should have been communicating better with her son to see what was causing him to have suicidal thoughts or even sending him to therapy. Many people rely on sodium nitrate to cure meats for long shelf storage and some people can’t get it locally and have to rely on Amazon to get it.
My father was a psychiatrist. He once told me that if someone wants to kill themself, then there is nothing you can do to truly stop them.
When I went through a really bad time and was suicidal my counselor said, Yes you can kill yourself, but why hurry you can hold that as an option open for anytime. Wait, maybe something will change and you will feel different. That is what I did and in a year my life was different and my problems I thought overwhelming were gone!
yes but dont make it easy
It's not amazon's fault. Those other 23 people would have found a way to do this without the help of amazon. you realize that right?
Why does a 16 year old allowed access to amazon? on whose credit card/debit card was the purchase done?
in the us we let 16 year olds drive lol. so i bet the parents assumed the child had the right to buy things online even though amazon is 18+.
@@LIVEMETRIX187then who do we cry about and blame? The parents or the retailers?
The suggestion of products that make the poison go down easier seems just a bit disturbing.
This is a complete B's. Go back to school and never ever comment again.
I've been looking for that 'product' and can't find any reference to it.
LoL life is dangerous, use with caution
That part of the story is really disturbing to say the least sounds like they are promoting it for the purpose of suicide in that case.😢
@@Darci3333 several states are right to die states
But seriously, his parents had several opportunities to stop him
1. Charge goes through the bank or the card
2. Email that it's being sent
3. Package showing up
4. Email that it was delivered
5. Email for a review on items
6. Checking on boys technology at least once a week, could have stopped it too
Just giving your child things, isn't attention and love
Being too busy to check on them is a let down
Some kids want to be stopped, sometimes it's a cry for help
We can't push for more control on things, we are already giving away too many freedoms
This is not Amazon's fault. This was a mental health issue and a product is not to blame.
Exactly!💯
She says Amazon shouldn't sell the product to minors. But Amazon doesn't sell anything to minors. Whose credit card or credentials did he use?
Hey now, dont try to ask the parents for accountability. It's Amazons fault. They should pay up millions in damages for the parents' responsibility.
They may even receive a gift card, the whole idea that a teen cannot buy things is ridiculous.
The insane thing here is that companies don’t actually need sodium nitrate in meat, sea salt works just as well without the cancer rate increase.
Mom , LISTEN . IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT !!!
This is crazy you can't blame Amazon
Exactly!💯
not amazons fault
Amazon then added a product to make it work better, this was purposeful.
@@nancybrouse5070 it’s an algorithm. They didn’t do anything on purpose. Parents needs to be more mindful of what their kids are doing on the internet. It’s sad, but that’s the reality.
If it's not Amazons fault then their platform is irresponsible and dangerous once they are aware of a product malfunction or is a danger, or can KILL people. Algorithms or not.
@@d.m.3663yep it’s a scapegoat for their own failures. And hoping for a big settlement.
Ignorant
It's not poison, so not really a crime to sell it. Some people just want to blame someone or something, instead of the person who did the killing. 100% on the killer. don't blame the tool or the person who sold the tool.
How the hell did her minor son purchase this without her knowledge?! These parents don’t pay enough attention to their children to see something is wrong and just let them have free access to the internet and social media. This is a parental issue not Amazon or any other retailer.
How rich that parents are blaming a company for something they are responsible for!! How about taking personal responsibility for the problem. Honestly!! Supervise your kids purchases, don’t let them have an Amazon account. The parent is the one that was SO disconnected from their child they didn’t know their mental state…blaming an online store is just ridiculous.
Children are influenced by a lot more than parents , people die every day it's the end of life. Noone can be there every minute , it's really hard to lose a child, she'd just like to prevent this particular pain for someone else. If someone is of the idea to suicide sometimes those around them don't know and sometimes suicide is successful. It is one way of dying. The mother would have prevented her child's death if it was in any way possible, life is full of things we have no control of.
@@user-vm8bb5zs4n as you said people die every day so what makes her think she can prevent anything by blaming Amazon. As for a parent not being able to tell? BS!! The only reason she couldn’t tell is the same reason her son had his own Amazon account…disconnected parenting. A parent who is engaged and paying attention, a parent who is communicating and has a healthy relationship with their child knows what’s up. A parent who pays attention and monitors their child’s web activity knows. This family is blaming a retailer for her failures…plain and simple. Btw, I checked today and Sodium Nitrate and Sodium Nitrite is still able to be purchased on Amazon because the company knows this is a RIDICULOUS lawsuit by people who refuse to take responsibility.
Minors can have Amazon accounts? Did he also have his own credit/debit card and a job? Was he in therapy? The attorneys for Amazon are going to rip her parenting to shreds. She will be lucky if they decide to settle with her for an undisclosed amount along with an NDA.
@@toebeans3985 If it wasn't this,it would have been something else and she'd be blaming the manufacturer or seller of THAT. What if the kid just jumped off a bridge? I suppose she'd blame the builders for building it so high.
You can literally go to home depot or dollar tree and buy chemicals... Don't blame amazon, people that are desperate will find another way. Watch your kids and don't be oblivious
My mom alway said, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
You’re actually picking a billion dollar corporation over a dead kid??
Like have a heart. No where in you wishes it was different? That Amazon restricted its product to restaurant professionals rather than anyone with internet access?? Other people have figured this out. Amazon could too. They had the resources. Your comment is terrible.
He's thinking logically here lady. These people will find a way to do this without the help of amazon is what he's trying to say.
@@johngiles6376: corporate shill.
@@eattherich9215 Should they remove the millions of products that theoretically could be used for bad things when most people need and use them for good? Pointing out this reality isn't corporate shilling. There must be better ways to go about it.
An unfortunate situation for sure, but the reality is the failure was at home and not at Amazon.
Exactly 😢
she blames Amazon for her lack of parenting skills.
May you never know the pain of having a child die , there is really no way to change what has passed. This world is full of many influences I'm certain that this mother is going through a difficult time and would have prevented the death of her son if she could have, life is not always easy or predictable .
@@user-vm8bb5zs4n Mourning is appropriate. This woman has now gone public on the news, making attacks agains business and trying to stop commerce. She's intentionally and willfully put herself in the spot light so it's no surprise there are opinions and comments for her actions. She's taken this far from the loss of a child to public accusations and attacks on business process. She, herself, escalated the her opinions globally. Some will give sympathy some will aim at the bullseye she's chosen to become.
I wonder if her son did what he did to get away from her.
The parents should sue themselves . They failed as parents . They let their son use their Amazon account unsupervised. Also thry didn’t have good communication with their son or thr son would have came to them for help . Probably the son did come to them, but thr dad was like “my way or the highway” I rally think charges should be brought against the parents
We tried to warn Amazon over pet toothbrushes that are criminally dangerous. It cost us over $2000 for surgery to save our pet. They just don’t give a rip.
What was the issue with the toothbrushes?
are u talking about those ultrasonic scalers for dogs???? Cause if so I FULLY AGREE. those things are SHARP AF and a non professional WILL 💯 HURT THEIR DOGS DOING THIS.
They should require grooming licenses or vet tek proof of employment.....
Pet toothbrushes? What do you mean?
That’s so stupid. Adult people are so babies
So, is the solution restricting and preventing people access to being able to process their own meat or maybe address why the kids are seeking methods to easily end their own lives? Because they would just find another method. But let's not address all these people trying to end it all, just say amazon bad.
i feel for the parents but sodium nitrate did not kill their child. You could drown yourself in a bathtub if you wanted to. Seems like a lot of effort put into the wrong place.
Blaming Amazon for selling it is like blaming gun stores for gun crime. Why did the boy want to end things? Figure that out if you want to stop kids stopping themselves.
people use this same argument for wanting to ban guns.
just because someone uses something for harm doesn't mean it is only harmful.
just because someone misuses something doesn't mean no one should be allowed to use it.
I feel horrible for their loss. As a mother, myself, I have no idea what I would do if it were my child.
Unfortunately, someone who wants to kill someone else or even themselves, if they can’t get that product from Amazon, they’ll find something else or a way to get it somewhere else.
Many 16 year olds have after school jobs, 16 year olds are even married (I was) so how silly to think they can't buy online!
Not an Amazon issue that's a mental health issue
Well, it's called parenting and it isn't a new idea. YOU get it out of the hands of your kid. Blaming Amazon is so sad. This poor mother needs therapy to help her get over her sorrow and self-blame in a realistic way.
Maybe she does.
And maybe you could just let her do that without blame and criticism.
She should realize it’s her fault for letting kid use her Amazon account
I am so very sorry for your loss and the unimaginable pain you’re going through. A parent’s worst nightmare.🙏🙏🙏
How is sodium nitrate guilty for your independent amazon shopping kids?? If those were my kids I would be opening boxes in the mail, or asking my kids for my approval before buying!!
Anything can be used for suicide. It's not a retailer's responsibility to prevent anyone from misusing something. The kid didn't use his own credit card. He used the parent's account. As usual, the parents deny responsibility for their kid's actions.
Iam so tired of parents blaming companies for their kids whom they raised Behaviors Start Talking To Your Kids And Stop Telling Them Instead Of Informing Them
So judgemental and unkind! Where is your sympathy?
@@lysettebrochu8607seriously? First place who set up accounts Amazon sign user? iPhone & iPad. Bank account. Parents knew it and it is their responsible, not Amazon responsible for kids! If you want kids to live long, it is your responsible. That’s parents’s job
@@lysettebrochu8607 girl that’s the problem now that’s why them kids running wild cause yall wanna baby them all the time smh 🤦🏾♀️
@@LexyTheEbikeQueen Baby them? Or Protect them?
I can't imagine the pain and hurt for this mom 💔 so sorry for your loss. Thank you for bringing awareness to this.
The parents need therapy.
What a scapegoat for their kids having issues. Lawyer is obviously making money off of this and is probably hoping for a big settlement. There are a million other ways to kill yourself so to blame what I presume is the least painful means they chose is asinine. They should take solace in they suffered much less than the alternatives.
Likely to be dismissed. Sadly
Sadly? She failed as a parent.
You can't stop access to everything. You have to deal with the person.
This is so horrible! Condolences to these poor parents.
How horrible for this family. I am so sorry.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR SELF
Exactly!💯
Mom and dad need to watch what their kids are doing. Not Amazon. Monitor internet activity of children you are responsible for. Normal parent stuff.
Alot of things , if misused , will kill you ...
Amazon: We care.
Amazon: That's why we only hire support from India.
Don't forget mexico , africa, cuba and puerto rico.Since they cover 80% or more of their work force in u.s. ( immergation use for amazon to fill in jobs )
TRUTH!!!
I should let the city know that water can be used for suicide. If they don’t turn off the water, they will be at risk for a lawsuit.
No shit, you could drown yourself, hell just drink way too freaking much and drown your cells.. Spot on.
Love how you talk of people like that! Yes 💯 people are so babies anything!
I know a person that committed suicide by drinking car windshield washer fluid. Anyone that seriously considers suicide will find a way. It's incredibly sad but the mind is a complex thing and sometimes can't easily be helped. Condolences to all the families!
The money making algorithm dgaf about the consumer
Large corporations largely do not give a shit about people, but their bottom line.
Any teen could find something to end themselves at just about any store in the neighborhood. And even their own house! You want to sue them all? You'll lose. Maybe sue yourself too? Stop wasting time trying to get a payday and educate parents to actually be parents.
She believes 100% of the people who unalived themselves wouldn’t have done so had the product not been available from Amazon. How absurdly naive.
I love how these parents blame everyone but themselves.
Shut up you looser!!!You are PURE EVIL 👿👿👿👿
She does blame herself, did you listen to what she said?
Heartless.
@@DarlaAnneseriously?! How kid set up Amazon account? Where kid get money to buy it?! How kid have bank account! Yeah, that is parent’s responsible if parents want kid to live long!
@@DarlaAnneno excuse for parents! That not Amazon job to take kids.
I believe this mother has a legitimate case. If I was selling something that was dangerous to children and I would be told that it was, even if I lost money on the product, I would have tried to find a solution… Stop, think, reevaluate, find a way to keep it out of children’s hands. Much love and respect for these heartbroken parents.
this is her fault, even if he couldn't get this product, he would still have committed suicide, people want to blame everyone else but themselves for how their kids choose to do bad things.
Your comment is disgusting. You are obviously not a mother. How dare you make the assertion that this is her fault. What is not stated in this video is the boy’s reason for taking the action he did. Perhaps it was because of bullying or some other reason that his mother was not aware of or was not in a position to fully know the torment he was going through. Your comment is unhelpful and nasty.
You suck missPepperss
You suck so hard
I want you to get your karma in spades
@@Whoever68
The failure was at home, it's with the parenting, not with Amazon. Anyone who wants to un... alive themselves will find a way to do it. It's not Amazon's fault.
If she tried as hard to understand her son's suffering as she's trying to ban this product, her son would still be here.
@@terriesmith2616 i can only say that I hope none of your children ever choose to do what this young man has done. Your attitude towards the parents is disgusting. You clearly lack empathy and compassion.
@@Whoever68
It's called self accountability and facing reality even when it hurts. Life is hard, life is suffering, if someone wants to end themselves, they'll find a way. Blaming Amazon for the actions of her own son is crazy. The failure is at home. Not Amazon.
I blame society and the government and schools for the suicide rates in this country people are just so cruel anymore
So much heartfelt sympathy for this mom!
As horrible as it is, you lost your son to the metal healthcare availability in america. I lost my wife to the same broken. Healthcare system. You have my deepest sympathies for your loss 😢😢😢
There is excellent mental healthcare in the US. Don’t make foolish assumptions.
@@lorirogers9304 This is true the system saved my life when I had no money. It was available and so are free hotlines, Walmart as and employer even provided me a free counselor by phone which helped also.
@@lorirogers9304no there's not I was given a counselor for serious mental problems that only told me copeing techniques that didn't work when I said they weren't I was told well i don't know what to tell you when i asked if i could get prescriptions for meds to help me the counselor and my mother both made me feel as if i was my own problem because "i just wanted to get better" i am now 20 with ptsd anxiety and a whole slue of other things ill never know i wasnt told my own diagnosis so no mental health care in the us is horrible you wanna kill yourself your looked at as selfish not are you ok i doubt you live in the us and if you did you probably live in a specific area that focuses on mental health not the rest of the country it's sad but mental healthcare even just healthcare sucks I had a trainer nurse put on me when I had pneumonia and was dieing at 5yrs old I have small airway syndrome and asthma she put a needle in my arm for a vein that was just non existent left scaring physical and mental for the rest of my life health care suuuuuuckkkkkss in the us
Maybe she should pay attention to what her 16 year old son is buying. Now it's Amazon's fault!
How do children have access to Amazon purchases with out adult supervision.
those 23 other people wouldn't still be alive they were obviously committed.
Who are they? All this is MISINFORMATION and fake news. Probably she is more than just a bad mother. She k¡!!Ed her son and now is trying to clean herself and scam Amazon. "trace amounts"? B's also stores sell on Amazon. Amazon is a MARKETPLACE.
Amazon's not responsible?
That's like telling someone their car has no headlights and they hit someone and they blame the lack of streetlamps.
No, it's not like that AT ALL, [bad analogy]. Did you know that water can be deadly if too much is consumed? Should they ban it too? C'mon now. It would be different if Amazon encouraged the kid to misuse it, but they didn't. They were merely selling a product that is safe if used correctly. How was the kid able to buy it in the first place? Why didn't the parents check the packages their child was buying? It's not a dangerous product with the PROPER usage. Anyone can find a way to misuse anything if they want to.
I'm trying to understand how a 16 year old was able to buy this from Amazon? Wouldn't his parents have to ok his purchases? I'm sorry for their loss, but in todays world there is too much available for suicidal people. They don't even need Amazon to succeed.
No, Amazon does not know who is using the account. Parents often allow their child to place orders on their account as a convenience. Nothing unusual at all.
Does Amazon have a kids mode that I am not aware of? YAWN!
Why is a child looking up sodium nitrate? Very sad situation. May he rest in peace.
Some teens go hunting with a Parent and they could also preserve meat.
It's on Amazon!!! Unbelievable.
ummm ok now im curious...why would you let minors buy stuff from online anyway? i grew up not allowed too till i got a job after highschool at 19
edit to add: why just attack amazon. a lot of unsafe products can be bought from so many places legally. and as people have mentioned, if someone is desperate, they will go to any lengths to get it, even by illegal means.
i lost a cousin who was addicted and he sadly lost his life. he would go to any lengths to get certain products. my family tried to help, but to no avail. so i get where this mom is coming from but she should have been monitoring his child closely, even possibly turned off internet access. there are so many things that could have been done but werent.
Don't teens have phones? I am glad I am not raising mine today! My kids had to come home after school, I don't think People know where their kids are most of the time now, but they could easily use another friends computer or phone.
she lets her kids order off Amazon??
They didn’t stop selling it. I searched it due to this and can have it here tomorrow by the pound.@Exit@ I have a business license that’s why I could buy it. Didn’t realize it was only for business licenses. Thanks for those that pointed that out.
Despicable. Spread the word.
Are you gonna use it
@@trainwreck420ishare you? 🤡
You're either looking at Sodium Nitrate or products with 6.25% Sodium Nitrite. 100% Sodium Nitrite is not available to average the Joe.
@@user-nm3xv9eb7r Too dumb to check for yourself, eh? He's either looking at Sodium Nitrate or products with 6.25% Sodium Nitrite. 100% Sodium Nitrite is not available to average the Joe.
$$$$$$$$$ greed
Dumb
"Grief". There I fixed it for you. (I don't agree with the lawsuit but I'm sure these people would far prefer to have their son back, you terrible human being.)
Yes! Parents trying to do to Amazon! Blame Amazon not their responsible is ridiculous. I knew parents try to steal Amazon money!
Like Amazon gives a crap about safety, especially if it involves their own employees. All they care about is making as much money as possible at the expense of other people's lives, businesses, and livelihoods.
'It led to other products to buy that made it easier to ingest.' Now _that_ is premeditated murder.
Kids should be outside playing not inside on the computer being influenced by strangers.
People can kill them selves with shoe strings if they want to do it they will find a way. It’s your job as a parent to talk to your kids, see the signs and get them help. If you don’t are you going to sue yourself?
I lost my siblings to taking their lives, I’m the baby at 49. I’m now 54 and I’ve outlived my siblings. It’s horrific for all of us but we’re not suing the alcohol industry or gun manufacturers. Ultimately, it was up to them and their choice to live or fight. When someone you love is in such a deep hole of despair, you jump in with a rope and pray they come up with you. You beg. You plead. Ultimately, it’s their choice though. And then you mourn and accept your new wretched reality. Or if you’re successful in getting them out of the hole, encourage them every step of the way with nothing but unconditional love and support. I’m so sorry this happened to these family’s, truly I am. Suing a company for something others use responsibly is not going to bring their loved one back nor is it going to prevent anyone from taking their own life. Hug your children, play games at the table, be an active part of their lives, know what they are watching, playing, doing…if you see a shift in behaviour, act on it immediately. I don’t believe in suicide prevention, you can watch someone 24/7 and if they truly can’t live anymore they will do it.
Sounds like she should have been paying attention to why her son was depressed and took his own life. Not amazons fault, maybe contact the people that make the product?
Do you know how many teenage boys don't talk about their emotions? I have a wonderful grandson. We are very close. I have open dialogue with him and he can come to me with anything. He is loving. He is sweet. He has a loving home with loving parents who are always there for him. But he is VERY closed off with his emotions, despite therapy for ADHD and depression. If anything ever happened it would NOT be from a lack of love, communication and guidance. You have no idea what the details were with this young man. It was also during the pandemic. What a terrible human to say that about a grieving mom.
Parents wanted money from Amazon! They try to steal money from companies! It is your responsible of kid’s life, not Amazon. First place who set up Amazon account, bank account, how your kid get money from where? That’s your kids! Your fault!
HOOOOOW did he order this in the first place??!!!
You need a credcard to buy anything....and it has to be MAILED TO YOU....who lets mystery packages show up to YOUR HOUSE sent 2your underage child and ALLOW THEM to open it without question 😢
WILD.....and if its mom or dads account HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE a recent purchase??!....is NO ONE WATCHING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS AND WHATS BEEN PURCHASED?????.....SOMANY QUESTIONS along with HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE BEHAVIORAL CHANGES IN YOUR CHILD THIS EXTREME.
Very fuckinsad and FULLY PREVENTABLE.
Its time to cancel my Amazon account
Amazon is still selling sodium nitrate on its site.
You sure? You're either looking at Sodium Nitrate or products with 6.25% Sodium Nitrite. 100% Sodium Nitrite is not available to average the Joe.
many people home cure and smoke bacon. It's used to stop botulism from growing. It's in all store bacon and ham. This child could have used any number of things instead. His mother blames Amazon because she failed to properly raise her son.
@@vespadano197999% pure is my first result lol
While I sympathize with her for the loss of her son, removing a product does not prevent suicide. He'd have just found another way. Best to be very open with your children, let them know you're there to talk with them, watch for red flags, get a professional therapist involved if you suspect depression, etc. Again, they'll just find another way to commit suicide. Better to help them via profesionals and being there to listen/talk to them to help their depression.
Just because you are a bad parent or your kid is an idiot you don’t get to ban substances
Your comment is cruel, have you ever lost a child? People do die it's hard to accept the death of a child. The mother will try to figure any way possible that she could have possibly stopped this from happening and try to protect others. In the end she will be left with the fact that you can't change what has already happened , it's tough enough without strangers blaming you.
@@user-vm8bb5zs4n sorry Barbara but that comment is neither cruel nor wrong. I don’t disagree that it’s hard to accept death but that doesn’t mean the parents get to blame a company for that death. If the mother REALLY tries to figure out what she could have done to stop it from happening it will take about 30 seconds. 1. Monitor the kids web activity 2. Question why and how the kid had their own personal Amazon account 3. Have an open, healthy relationship with their child where they were engaged and communicating and listening to what was being said. In the end, the parents failed MISERABLY and they only have themselves to blame.
So if a kid commits suicide, it's always the parents' fault? Depression is a mental disorder and many people are really good at hiding it where you don't know what's going on inside their head until it's too late.
@@danielhostetler9493 I don't agree Amazon should be sued. I do believe communication is important. I do agree with monitoring as much as is possible without being totally invasive of a kid who was less than a year and a half away from adulthood. But to even insinuate that losing a child to suicide is the fault of a parent is TRULY disgusting. You have no idea if this kid was in therapy. Some kids show NO signs whatsoever. Teens are ANGSTY and raging with hormones. It's not always as clear as you think and they're NOT likely to tell you that they want to kill themselves. They pretend so they don't have to deal with restrictions. Kids are sneaky and they lie. That doesn't make this young man an "idiot". We have factors going on now with what's in our food, our air, our water, or society. Absolutely talk to your children but don't think for one second that you have all these answers enough to berate a DEAD child and their grieving parents. Really hope you're NOT one.
@@DarlaAnne get real. You know what your comment actually says….oh, it’s not mommy and daddy’s fault because the kid was potentially going through adolescence. BS. These parents have known their son for a decade and a half, NO ONE is better equipped to see changes and yet they didn’t. I never called the kid an idiot nor did I berate their child and frankly, to imply anything to the contrary is what is ACTUALLY disgusting. I was that kid, I went through puberty and adolescence. You’ve managed to blame environment, diet and every other ridiculous idea in order to absolve responsibility. Give me a break! They want to blame a company for something that happened in their house and as you so clearly indicated…he wasn’t an adult…they were still 100% responsible and excuses like “kids lie” is disgusting. You know why they lie? Because they fear the reaction of mom and dad, they don’t trust the relationship…in a healthy family kids have boundaries and support and the secrets aren’t necessary because mom and dad are 100% still engaged and invested which clearly wasn’t the case here and we know that because he was able to buy 2lbs of sodium nitrite and get it delivered . Because he was able to research methods without getting questioned and because he was in crisis and nobody knew. You can be a bleeding heart for the mom and dad, that’s what they are hoping for but in the end…the facts are the facts and Amazon wasn’t and isn’t the problem.
So the parents are absolving themselves of all responsibility; Amazon sells what it sells.