Democraps Shields if the Democraps Politicians Donors rig elections for the Democraps, then the Democraps rig elections (Duh). The Democraps obviously rigged the election for Hilary against Bernie Sanders and everyone who voted in 2016 on the left know this. Then why do y'all believe we would be stupid enough to not see the Democraps and their Billionaire Masters totally rig the elections against Trump? Yeah Joe Senile got more Blacks Votes than ObaMo. LMAO.
@@bobloblaw7030 Typical politics IS the problem. Billionaires flooding millions into campaigns is corruption. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not wrong and should be called out.
This happens SO often in CA politics. There was a near identical case in San Francisco with a widely unpopular city supervisor who had been representing the Castro district. Those who were more progressive ran like 5 candidates against him, which split the vote and let him easily get reelected. I saw this coming right away with Porter/Lee, and knew Schiff would so easily ride to victory. Also I have to look into this but there were a bunch of ads maligning Porter with a black woman's voice doing the voiceover. I now feel like I have to look into if these ads were actually backed by Schiff. Wouldn't surprise me if they were.
They were schiff pac ads. And they were racist af. But I don’t like the idea of forcing a Black woman who is 100% correct on the issues out, which is also racism. Porter should’ve been the one supporting a Black Leftist who would’ve only served a single term.
@@jeffgojail No one is arguing whether she won or lost. You made the baseless claim that Katie Porter would lose no matter what. I call bs. Had the two progressive candidates drawn straws and decided which one would run (I prefer Barbra Lee), and called out the fact Schiff was propping up the Republican DURING the primary, the progressive could easily have won. Rank choice voting would probably worked as well.
@jaxom07 Yeah, yeah, I know, progressives never lose on their own. There's always some reason why they should have won, but they were stymied. The truth is they lost because they ran shity fucking campaigns and Adam Schiff outmaneuvered them. I'm so tired of the fucking excuses on the left for why your candidates lose. Most of the time they lose cuz they suck. They absolutely fucking suck. They're more concerned with Purity than winning. Maybe if Katie Porter had taken some pack money, she would have been able to compete statewide, but instead, she chose to be pure..... pure loser.
Adam "Ash" Schiff is an android. On several occasions I've offered to contribute $100 to "Ash's" campaign if he would pour a quart of milk over his head, look into a camera, and recite the following line, "I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality." I'm a registered Democrat in California and will write in "Ash Android" for the California open senate seat in November.
It should be illegal to spend your campaign money on other campaigns. Promote yourself, talk shit about opponents, but dont throw money at the opponent you'd like. And yes, ideally campaigns would be publicly funded, not pushed by millionaires.
I think the pearl clutching is cringe. But in my opinion, I think using the word rigged isn’t the right word because when you say that you think what Trump is doing. She should’ve said it’s an unfair advantage
It’s difficult to digest a daily diet of transparency surrounding our elected officials and the outlets that cover them. The state of affairs on the hill is really depressing, and Im finding it challenging not to become overly-cynical. But, I’m so grateful to independent media outlets like Secular Talk, because it’s more important than ever that we inform ourselves politically.
There is one thing that I have learnt about California voters over the last 30+ years and it is that they love Corporate establishment Democrats........don't know why but they just keep on voting them in
I live in California his allies ran well funded deceptive ads saying porter took pac money and their proof was donations ranging from 500 to 1500 dollars. That's not pack money thats her enemy pushing the donation button
why can't there be a leftist primary before the actual primary? this happened to sanders too. Why are leftist candidates so stupid and we all suffer smh
Because they're all grifters. No politician is going to give you free stuff just because they're cool dudes like that. They're either lying to get your votes, or lying to get more money in their pocket, or most commonly both.
We're all stupid, but different folks are stupid about different things. Leftists tend to let visions of ideal realities keep them from seeing the big rock they're tripping over until the ground reminds their face that visions don't soften reality's impact. Rock paper scissors, shoot baskets, whatever. But halving your side's effective vote is nuts.
Katie is 100% correct.. Unreal that you did not get out there and vote for this woman to win.. She is such an upgrade very disappointing.. She should of had a bigger push behind her I did not even see her race covered much by progressive channels.
@@FM-ln2sb She is not questioning the count.. So you do not understand nuance? Is that what I take away from your comment? Which actually makes Biden like trump in terms of the top secret documents he had right? Cause your dumb right?
@@FM-ln2sb Correct. She’s given so much ammo to Trump and the GOP in general. Now they can push a “ both sides do it” claim that one doesn’t need to accept accurate election results. Porter is nothing but a sore loser.
It's funny how no progressives were suspicious of Bernie Sanders, who raised the most money in the 2020 primary and was the only candidate with a corporate CEO, who's farm subsidies he consistently votes for, as his campaign co-chair. It's also interesting how nobody was suspicious of Nina Turner, who outraised her opponent by hundreds of thousands of dollars. It seems It's only suspicious when progressives lose. Then it's just a convenient scapegoat for you. Now THAT sounds suspicious
But money influences thought through things like ads that sway how voters vote, dishonest ads are no different than propaganda, and propaganda is used because it works.
A lesson for what? Winning? Having five times the name ID in his own State than either of the other two candidates? What exactly did he do wrong besides beat your shity candidate?
If you accidently walked into Shiffs sideview mirror in a parking lot, the dude would get out holding his neck and screaming to call an ambulance. He's def got that vibe.
The Donor Class is all about Wine and Cheese Sophistication, hanging with Nancy Pelosi while Deutsche-Grammophon recordings of Mozart string quartets snore on in the background!
Katie Porter definitely should have chosen her words more carefully. Kyle saying "Everybody knew what she meant..." when she used the word "rigged" - that is just not true. Ask your average conservative voter if they know any of these details that Kyle knows... they do not, guaranteed, nor do they seem to care! And so, if those people hear the word "rigged" from a Democrat, they are going to shout "double standard" from the rooftops. This should have been expected. That it wasn't is just downright sad.
Exactly. So many people make excuses for the way trump talks saying „well everybody knows what he means”….. um no we don’t, words mean things and if you’re making public statements you’d better be careful that you’re saying what you mean.
I voted for Porter.. Part of the reason I stayed in the dem party was to vote in the primary yet Nancy Pelosi is still choosing our representatives.. Done with the party!
I am in NH and when they canceled our primary I decided if they don't want to count my vote the Green Party will be happy to have it. I am voting Jill Stein in November.
@@dustinsindledecker154 Do you understand Schiff spent millions of dollars supporting Republican candidates to box out Porter form the general election? And where do you think those millions of dollars came from?
I voted for Katie Porter, but she should not have used the term "rigged." The fact is, she barely campaigned. All of them barely campaigned, and it was a historically low turnout election. Normie voters are just going to think that shes pulling a Trump and be less likely to support her later.
Also, the blatant racism of folks saying Lee should’ve dropped out for Porter is disgusting. Lee was the only candidate with a consistent record and Karen Porter lost my respect when she bowed down to Bibi.
A consistent record of praising dictators. She and Trump have that in common. One can call for normalized relations with Cuba without showing admiration for Castro. I know math is hard for those on the far left. Porter or Lee dropping out wouldn’t have changed anything. Schiff’s % of the vote was higher than the total received by both Porter and Lee.
@@dustinsindledecker154the biggest lie that MAGA has told you is that you're supporting MAGA when you oppose obvious corruption. You believe the lie too.
As far as I know, Schiff did not do anything illegal. I know the rules suck and need to change. But unless I am missing something, calling this rigged is dumb. Rigged is a loaded word. Don't use it unless it applies. Say want it is, dirty tricks that are allowed under the rules. Call out Schiff as an a-hole for being dirty, and call out the the rules that need to change.
I love how establishment shills in these comments present something as a "winning strategy" while totally dismissing that the game is literally rigged against progressive candidates.
That's a purple district. Her real issue was that she's beholden to the Israel lobby via J Street and wasn't going to get the people who were supporting Barabara Lee as a result.
Yea... it was total bull shit. I saw those dumb anti Porter ads and knew it wasn't Garvey. I saw basically no anti Schiff ads. Not voting for Schiff or Garvey in the election. Porter was the pick.
Also Barbara Lee was the ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS who had the stones to vote against the original AUMF in the fall of 2001. Honestly she should be my senator for that alone.
I feel like Dean Phillips, 3-term US Congressman who never took or gave lobbyist or pac money would have been like the perfect President to fight dark money… But how dare he say Biden is old right?
Yes, the problem is not that we take the money, we don't run away with the money! Let's be honest here the biggest problem with this bribe is that every single person that is a politician honors the bribe! Let's take the money from Raytheon and Boeing and then immediately make bills to make them pay in other ways and then when they complain about it we can put it on the news and say" but you gave me money, and I openly stated in my campaign that I was totally going to regulate you what you thought giving me money was going to make me not regulate! you you gave me money not the votes for the job!" and then when the corporations complained they can't take the money back you've already spent it on your campaign they can't kick you out of office because if they do that after you've made a big press release after it people are going to know that! At best they have to stop giving you money, and then you can release a campaign stating ohh look they're stop giving me money because I actually did my job! Making them look bad so they're stuck in a catch 22 remember blackmail worked in both directions! That's why the number one method of getting rid of your blackmail is to reveal your secret because the blackmailer always is actually at the lower end of the scale! Even though Katie is right, she should have planned it properly by not having another super left-leaning person running against her sure and just practically set up a team! Sorry for a paragraphed long comment but this is my detailed diatribe!
Katie is correct but us leftists will always have to be more thoughtful about our rhetoric because the right flank (in this case corp dems) will always look to discount our otherwise valid points and the easiest way to do that is by attacking the framing and not the issue itself. It’s fighting a losing battle sometimes.
@@waltergrace565 maybe I’m not. I just believe in specific policies that are generally accepted and promoted by “the left”. I just say “leftists” because it’s always easier to give groups a label. I consider myself “on the left” because the center of American politics or at least where the power lies is in the center-right, or corporations and individuals who benefit from the capitalist structure at the moment. I have an avid cynicism for capitalism, so I consider myself a “leftist”. Others might disagree or have stronger barriers of entry into the coalition - which is fine.
Don't hate the player, hate the game... or, at very minimum, minimum, learn to play the game properly so you can hold high office sometime this millennia. Purity only matters with cocaine and heroin, not politics
Barbara Lee has a better foreign policy record, but I would've still been happy with Katie's whiteboard lessons on the Senate floor. If elections were actually free and fair, and each candidate had equal resources with which to win over support from voters, I'd be shocked if one--or even both--of them made it through the primary, as experienced politicians with actual plans that would benefit working & middle-class Californians, and not just the 1 (or 5 if I'm being generous) percent. That being said, their campaigns must've known what kind of dirty (though entirely legal!) tricks Schiff might pull, and coordinated/consolidated early. Pity there's no RCV in California, or else they could've built a formidable coalition where voters didn't have to go 100% for one and zero for the other...but I guess that's why Newsome is so reluctant to let it become reality. Fuckin Californicator
Right? It's horrible optics and Katie swung and missed with this one, IMHO. In the popular lexicon, the word rigged has an undeniable connotation that ignores any "nuance". One doesn't get to try to change that just because they like the person using the term.
Tbh, while the smear sucks, I'm fine with it. Katie was absolutely the most condescending politician I've ever had the displeasure of speaking with. She didn't even try to coat her condescension and distaste for folks who didn't agree with her - it was like she took lessons from Nancy Pelosi.
Till today I haven't seen any one call out so boldly the two parties like Malcolm X did, and people are just so stupid they keep falling for this shit! And that was what 50+ yrs ago???? Yes, we deserve this shit until the people change it. Plain and simple don't expect a different result by doing the same shit! Einstein
Right? It's horrible optics and Katie swung and missed with this one, IMHO. In the popular lexicon, the word rigged has an undeniable connotation that ignores any "nuance". One doesn't get to try to change that just because they like the person using the term.
Katie scares many in the Democrat party because she has earned the respect of the American people without having to bend down to big money donors. Maybe it's naive of me to think, but I appreciate that her common sense views, whether I agree with them or not, always have what she feels is best for people behind them. Jake and Adam need to look up "Genuine" in the dictionary to ever hope to understand Katie.
The words Katie Porter should have used were "controlled opposition." Adam Schiff.chose his opponent by giving them money. Because shifry knows he would lose to Porter in the general election.
Are we really forgetting that Lee and Porter were outsmarted and outplayed by schiff. Instead of banding together, they let their pride get in the way and now we all lose. They should've came together and come up with a strategy as soon as they realized what schiffs campaign was doing. I don't care about the lies he was putting out, that much should've been a given. I'm disappointed in how they failed to respond to it
Yeah. I haven’t been following the primary in California too closely but the thing that definitely left me with questions was the fact that Porter and Lee split the vote against one another knowing that it would make it easier for Schiff to win. It’s a shame that it happened that way since either Porter or Lee would have been WAY better than Schiff in the Senate.
To be fair, even if you combined their vote totals, they were pretty far behind schiff and the republican. Now, if you said maybe if only one was in the race and could have gotten some momentum to outperform the sum of their votes, I’d agree with that.
@@PseudoSpaceMarine but behind the scene, Garvey was propped up so Schiff wouldn't face off Porter in the General Election. The state of California has a different primary law.
Out spent, not out smarted... neither of them were being backed like Schiff. They could've ran a campaign together from the beginning, and it would've done nothing. This is literally just people voting whatever name they saw the most in a positive light and doing no research.
I kind of agree, I guess it feels just...off, somehow to me. But I feel like when he's got such good stuff to say so often, it makes me feel like he makes it work. Like if he like it, hell yeah, I'm here for it and Kyle is attractive enough to do whatever he wants. You know you can just put your headphone in and do something else while listening to him? He's beautiful inside, which makes him chad on the outside. Just listen to his usually on-point analysis, and wash your dishes and sort your mail. Politics in America is dumb enough without us all injecting irrelevant and useless critique toward people who don't have any reason to consider it at all. This may work better on a fashion blog. If you wanna start one, I'll join you & we can assess and pick apart the appearances and fashion choices of political figures & pundits! I kinda like this idea now, damn I'm dumb lmao.
This is why i hate money in politics and we have to voting for these corrupt corporate clowns especially the ones backed by AIPAC.
I voted for Katie, and I also saw the BS ads against Katie! 🤬🤬🤬 I am still pissed!
Is your name also Katie? 🤔
@@adayinforever😂
It's called politics. Get over it. You guys always get pissed when the entire Democratic establishment doesn't just bend the knee.
Democraps Shields if the Democraps Politicians Donors rig elections for the Democraps, then the Democraps rig elections (Duh).
The Democraps obviously rigged the election for Hilary against Bernie Sanders and everyone who voted in 2016 on the left know this. Then why do y'all believe we would be stupid enough to not see the Democraps and their Billionaire Masters totally rig the elections against Trump?
Yeah Joe Senile got more Blacks Votes than ObaMo. LMAO.
Ah... gotta love excuses from establishment Dem shills
5:40 Professionally Stupid On Purpose should be CNN's slogan.
Good catch
Kyle doesn't have that trademarked yet?
In James Earl Jones' voice.
Katie is correct
Funny how Bernie Bros never lose on their own....... just like Trumptards
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no she isn't....if they play within the rules it is not "rigged"...all politicians use tactics to win
No she is not. It's typical politics what happened where money gives a huge advantage. Using that word to describe it is misleading
@@bobloblaw7030 Typical politics IS the problem. Billionaires flooding millions into campaigns is corruption. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not wrong and should be called out.
Katie Porter refused to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, which lost her a lot of progressive votes.
Yup, she is a modern day genocide denier. Like AOC and Bernie.
Corruption is the norm in US politics.
It can never end.
I wouldn’t exactly say it was rigged but Schiff did pull some shaddy shit. I voted for Katie porter
It's legalized rigging in favor of pro-corporate shills. There's no need for ballot shenanigans.
Oh it's not rigged? Have you ever tried to get on a ballot ? It's rigged.
This happens SO often in CA politics. There was a near identical case in San Francisco with a widely unpopular city supervisor who had been representing the Castro district. Those who were more progressive ran like 5 candidates against him, which split the vote and let him easily get reelected. I saw this coming right away with Porter/Lee, and knew Schiff would so easily ride to victory.
Also I have to look into this but there were a bunch of ads maligning Porter with a black woman's voice doing the voiceover. I now feel like I have to look into if these ads were actually backed by Schiff. Wouldn't surprise me if they were.
They were schiff pac ads. And they were racist af. But I don’t like the idea of forcing a Black woman who is 100% correct on the issues out, which is also racism. Porter should’ve been the one supporting a Black Leftist who would’ve only served a single term.
If only there was a system where voters could rank the candidates.... we could call it ranked choice voting.
Adam Schiff would have still won
@@jeffgojail You are wrong. See, I can make baseless claims too.
@@jaxom07
Fine, in an alternate fucking universe that doesn't exist, she wins. However, in this universe, she lost. Get the fuck over it
@@jeffgojail No one is arguing whether she won or lost. You made the baseless claim that Katie Porter would lose no matter what. I call bs. Had the two progressive candidates drawn straws and decided which one would run (I prefer Barbra Lee), and called out the fact Schiff was propping up the Republican DURING the primary, the progressive could easily have won. Rank choice voting would probably worked as well.
@jaxom07
Yeah, yeah, I know, progressives never lose on their own. There's always some reason why they should have won, but they were stymied. The truth is they lost because they ran shity fucking campaigns and Adam Schiff outmaneuvered them. I'm so tired of the fucking excuses on the left for why your candidates lose. Most of the time they lose cuz they suck. They absolutely fucking suck. They're more concerned with Purity than winning. Maybe if Katie Porter had taken some pack money, she would have been able to compete statewide, but instead, she chose to be pure.....
pure loser.
I need a bumper sticker “don’t blame me, I voted for Lee.”
We Southern Californians also lost two great reps as a result.
Yet they will be replaced by two better representatives
Yep. Too many establishment shills.
Adam "Ash" Schiff is an android. On several occasions I've offered to contribute $100 to "Ash's" campaign if he would pour a quart of milk over his head, look into a camera, and recite the following line, "I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality." I'm a registered Democrat in California and will write in "Ash Android" for the California open senate seat in November.
Your diatribe is very 👽 to me!
😂😂😂
Will you pay me to do it. f it
It should be illegal to spend your campaign money on other campaigns.
Promote yourself, talk shit about opponents, but dont throw money at the opponent you'd like.
And yes, ideally campaigns would be publicly funded, not pushed by millionaires.
I think the pearl clutching is cringe. But in my opinion, I think using the word rigged isn’t the right word because when you say that you think what Trump is doing. She should’ve said it’s an unfair advantage
Even if it is unfair she still could have advanced to the general if she played the same game Adam did.
It’s difficult to digest a daily diet of transparency surrounding our elected officials and the outlets that cover them. The state of affairs on the hill is really depressing, and Im finding it challenging not to become overly-cynical. But, I’m so grateful to independent media outlets like Secular Talk, because it’s more important than ever that we inform ourselves politically.
Yep! 💯
There is one thing that I have learnt about California voters over the last 30+ years and it is that they love Corporate establishment Democrats........don't know why but they just keep on voting them in
Because California is full of wealthy corporate types.
Sucks when trumps nicknames are accurate. Shifty-schiff is a perfect name for him.
They usually are accurate, so...um?
@@gligarguy4010 still sucks.
We tried to tell you guys the same tricks you cheered for would be used against you too. You didn't want to listen.
@@gligarguy4010 Still waiting for him to bust out his own "Tyrant Trump" then. Otherwise they're nicknames without a baseline....
@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I never cheered for a corporate democrat propping up a republican so they didn't have to deal with a progressive.
What do Tapper, Schiff and Feinstein all have in common? As if they were ever gonna let this seat go to someone outside the tribe.
Nice try. This is a corporate dem cult channel. Kyle only criticizes Christians.
Why is it that progressives never just lose? Why is it always someone else's fault? You sound just like trump.
The responses on this thread definitely aren't going to get hidden.
Nice try. Kyle only trashes Christians.
The jerk chicken makes people fart after dinner. black eyed peas and blunts. Farting a lot and stuff.
Gonna miss you Katie. Wish you would have remained in the House.
She’ll be back but still!!
I live in California his allies ran well funded deceptive ads saying porter took pac money and their proof was donations ranging from 500 to 1500 dollars.
That's not pack money thats her enemy pushing the donation button
why can't there be a leftist primary before the actual primary? this happened to sanders too. Why are leftist candidates so stupid and we all suffer smh
We had plenty of polls showing Barabara Lee was not very popular, so she should've dropped out
So now we lose Katie Porter and Barbara Lee in the House. NOW I WANT GARVEY TO WIN AS PAYBACK
Because they're all grifters. No politician is going to give you free stuff just because they're cool dudes like that. They're either lying to get your votes, or lying to get more money in their pocket, or most commonly both.
@@gligarguy4010 or maybe porter defends her purple district and endorses Lee
We're all stupid, but different folks are stupid about different things. Leftists tend to let visions of ideal realities keep them from seeing the big rock they're tripping over until the ground reminds their face that visions don't soften reality's impact.
Rock paper scissors, shoot baskets, whatever. But halving your side's effective vote is nuts.
Katie is 100% correct.. Unreal that you did not get out there and vote for this woman to win.. She is such an upgrade very disappointing.. She should of had a bigger push behind her I did not even see her race covered much by progressive channels.
Katie sounds like Donald Trump.hahahahahaha!
@@FM-ln2sb She is not questioning the count.. So you do not understand nuance? Is that what I take away from your comment? Which actually makes Biden like trump in terms of the top secret documents he had right? Cause your dumb right?
@@FM-ln2sb Correct. She’s given so much ammo to Trump and the GOP in general. Now they can push a “ both sides do it” claim that one doesn’t need to accept accurate election results. Porter is nothing but a sore loser.
Rigged rigged rigged rigged rigged!!!
Money Riggs and election.
There's really no difference between progressives and Trump supporters at this point. You both act the exact same way when you lose. Every. Time.
It's funny how no progressives were suspicious of Bernie Sanders, who raised the most money in the 2020 primary and was the only candidate with a corporate CEO, who's farm subsidies he consistently votes for, as his campaign co-chair. It's also interesting how nobody was suspicious of Nina Turner, who outraised her opponent by hundreds of thousands of dollars. It seems It's only suspicious when progressives lose. Then it's just a convenient scapegoat for you.
Now THAT sounds suspicious
Im honestly tired of blaming the system. Money doesnt vote. At a certain point you have to recognize that Americans get the government they deserve.
But money influences thought through things like ads that sway how voters vote, dishonest ads are no different than propaganda, and propaganda is used because it works.
Yep. People are simply too stubborn.
A part of me actually hopes the Republican wins just to teach Schiff a lesson
A lesson for what? Winning? Having five times the name ID in his own State than either of the other two candidates? What exactly did he do wrong besides beat your shity candidate?
I'm not voting a Maga guy in... but I'm also not going to vote Schiff
Hahahahaha…I think WE were already ‘teached’ that LESSON…🤪🤪
@@donnafedorenko1357
The progressive learning curve is a straight freaking line
Unfortunately, they will not learn the lesson we want from that. They would rather lose to the republican than allow anyone honest to win
If you accidently walked into Shiffs sideview mirror in a parking lot, the dude would get out holding his neck and screaming to call an ambulance. He's def got that vibe.
Katie Porter, who refused to call for a ceasefire or even empathize with dying Palestinians. No tears shed for her.
porter.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=585#:~:text=%E2%80%9CSince%20Hamas'%20terrorist%20attack%20on,stability%20in%20the%20Middle%20East.
The Donor Class is all about Wine and Cheese Sophistication, hanging with Nancy Pelosi while Deutsche-Grammophon recordings of Mozart string quartets snore on in the background!
What is your problem with Mozart?
@@dustinsindledecker154 He’s too low brow and classless to appreciate Mozart.
Katie Porter definitely should have chosen her words more carefully. Kyle saying "Everybody knew what she meant..." when she used the word "rigged" - that is just not true. Ask your average conservative voter if they know any of these details that Kyle knows... they do not, guaranteed, nor do they seem to care! And so, if those people hear the word "rigged" from a Democrat, they are going to shout "double standard" from the rooftops. This should have been expected. That it wasn't is just downright sad.
Yeah! When Katie says that then she sounds like a MAGA supporter
Even though she was technically right, she should have used better words
@@Boris80b she knew these things going into the race.
Knowing something doesn't mean that the opponent isn't shady (within legal boundaries, of course)
Exactly. So many people make excuses for the way trump talks saying „well everybody knows what he means”….. um no we don’t, words mean things and if you’re making public statements you’d better be careful that you’re saying what you mean.
I voted for Porter.. Part of the reason I stayed in the dem party was to vote in the primary yet Nancy Pelosi is still choosing our representatives.. Done with the party!
I am in NH and when they canceled our primary I decided if they don't want to count my vote the Green Party will be happy to have it. I am voting Jill Stein in November.
Well just look at the candidates before you change parties. They don't usually have good qualified candidates.
Yet the voters chose Schiff . Don't blame Nancy blame the voters
@@dustinsindledecker154 Do you understand Schiff spent millions of dollars supporting Republican candidates to box out Porter form the general election? And where do you think those millions of dollars came from?
@@dustinsindledecker154 I blame the wealthy, which includes Nancy.
Shift is a slick politician. We need to stop.
He's not that slick he's just rich
Really low turnout too. America is politically dead inside and that just leads to the worst candidates winning.
I voted for Katie Porter, but she should not have used the term "rigged." The fact is, she barely campaigned. All of them barely campaigned, and it was a historically low turnout election. Normie voters are just going to think that shes pulling a Trump and be less likely to support her later.
Also, the blatant racism of folks saying Lee should’ve dropped out for Porter is disgusting. Lee was the only candidate with a consistent record and Karen Porter lost my respect when she bowed down to Bibi.
A consistent record of praising dictators. She and Trump have that in common. One can call for normalized relations with Cuba without showing admiration for Castro. I know math is hard for those on the far left. Porter or Lee dropping out wouldn’t have changed anything. Schiff’s % of the vote was higher than the total received by both Porter and Lee.
Sounds like politics
Meanwhile three years later and yet still no evidence of fraud 😏
Texan here. I signed up for recurring donations to her campaign the day she announced her campaign.
This will be unpopular, but Schiff makes me want to vote for the Republican
He's Republican-Lite.
So you are a MAGAt?
@@dustinsindledecker154No, they just lose a potential voter because Schiff is abysmal. It helps a Republican by picking shitty Dems.
@@dustinsindledecker154the biggest lie that MAGA has told you is that you're supporting MAGA when you oppose obvious corruption.
You believe the lie too.
Ranked choice voting and not eliminating parties is needed
Ranked choice will do nothing. Ban ALL parties.
I wish
Stay strong Katie Porter.
Ol' Pencil Neck strikes again! Lol
Why do the bad people always win?
Be cause "good" people.purity test themselves into being a minority in politics and refuse to negotiate with the "bad" people to get things done.
How’s Shifty gonna pitch Garvey as a “threat to DeMoCrAcY” after FUNDING him in the primary 😂😂😂
he didn't fund him, all he did was run attack ads against him.
Shifty is shady
@@Boris80b not shifty or shady just smart
Nah... he's shady
We do not agree, Dru
Didnt Katie Porter receive AIPAC money herself?
Exactly and then complain about others
She went on a paid for trip to Israel last year. After that trip, she expressed how Ntywho is now her buddy
As far as I know, Schiff did not do anything illegal. I know the rules suck and need to change. But unless I am missing something, calling this rigged is dumb. Rigged is a loaded word. Don't use it unless it applies. Say want it is, dirty tricks that are allowed under the rules. Call out Schiff as an a-hole for being dirty, and call out the the rules that need to change.
Jake Tapper did say “clever-that’s a nice way to put it”
There has to be a place for her, she's so good
Katie is one of the few solid progressives reps we have!
Katie Porter should run as an independent.
CA has a sore loser law so she can’t thank goodness. The only states without them are IA, NY, and CT.
I love Katie Porter! ❤🥰
Kyle clutching his pearls... chef's kiss 👌
The guy is so pathetically desperate at this point that it is almost delicious.
If it were legal to run against a Republican candidate what makes it cheating? Help me here.
Things will never get better.
I love how establishment shills in these comments present something as a "winning strategy" while totally dismissing that the game is literally rigged against progressive candidates.
Bingo, a lot of liberals revealing themselves to be traitors in the making.
It's working the way it was designed to work.
It's designed the wrong way
Katie Porter barely won reelection for her district how did she expect in a state wide election 8:46
Well her district isnt a heavy democratic district
That's a purple district. Her real issue was that she's beholden to the Israel lobby via J Street and wasn't going to get the people who were supporting Barabara Lee as a result.
Because people on social media that don't live in California told her she could.
Yea... it was total bull shit. I saw those dumb anti Porter ads and knew it wasn't Garvey. I saw basically no anti Schiff ads. Not voting for Schiff or Garvey in the election. Porter was the pick.
Yep maybe Barbara Lee should've run Anti Schiff ads honestly.
Your problem Kyle is thinking the Democrats are honest.
Shiff, just another Israeli citizen in the U.S. congress.
Schiff is not even Jewish
Anti-semitism is the only prejudice one sees on both sides of the political spectrum.
Shifty Schiff is not too far off, tbh
Also Barbara Lee was the ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS who had the stones to vote against the original AUMF in the fall of 2001. Honestly she should be my senator for that alone.
@@southend26wasn’t Barbara Lee paid by Scientology though?
@@LowTide941 Never heard of that. Can't find it either. When?
@@southend26 it was brought up when Biden was looking at VP candidates in 20.
Katie Porter should have just stay out of the election and endorsed Barbra Lee. They split the progressive vote and now they are both out of a job.
I feel like Dean Phillips, 3-term US Congressman who never took or gave lobbyist or pac money would have been like the perfect President to fight dark money…
But how dare he say Biden is old right?
Yes, the problem is not that we take the money, we don't run away with the money! Let's be honest here the biggest problem with this bribe is that every single person that is a politician honors the bribe! Let's take the money from Raytheon and Boeing and then immediately make bills to make them pay in other ways and then when they complain about it we can put it on the news and say" but you gave me money, and I openly stated in my campaign that I was totally going to regulate you what you thought giving me money was going to make me not regulate! you you gave me money not the votes for the job!" and then when the corporations complained they can't take the money back you've already spent it on your campaign they can't kick you out of office because if they do that after you've made a big press release after it people are going to know that! At best they have to stop giving you money, and then you can release a campaign stating ohh look they're stop giving me money because I actually did my job! Making them look bad so they're stuck in a catch 22 remember blackmail worked in both directions! That's why the number one method of getting rid of your blackmail is to reveal your secret because the blackmailer always is actually at the lower end of the scale! Even though Katie is right, she should have planned it properly by not having another super left-leaning person running against her sure and just practically set up a team! Sorry for a paragraphed long comment but this is my detailed diatribe!
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. There is a difference between cheating and hardball.
She shouldn’t have used the word, it was irresponsible - she got outplayed, that’s all.
Garvey is actually up in the polls
Katie is correct but us leftists will always have to be more thoughtful about our rhetoric because the right flank (in this case corp dems) will always look to discount our otherwise valid points and the easiest way to do that is by attacking the framing and not the issue itself.
It’s fighting a losing battle sometimes.
How are you a "leftist"?
@@waltergrace565 ain’t gotta prove myself to some random dude in the RUclips comments
@@kylecraven1916 Haha, not asking you to prove anything. It's an honest question.
@@waltergrace565 maybe I’m not. I just believe in specific policies that are generally accepted and promoted by “the left”. I just say “leftists” because it’s always easier to give groups a label.
I consider myself “on the left” because the center of American politics or at least where the power lies is in the center-right, or corporations and individuals who benefit from the capitalist structure at the moment. I have an avid cynicism for capitalism, so I consider myself a “leftist”. Others might disagree or have stronger barriers of entry into the coalition - which is fine.
@@kylecraven1916 And what is it that you consider to be "capitalism"?
Why didn’t Porter and Lee talk before running?
Divide and conquer!
Literally mad over the language. When you can't win on facts, argue procedure.
The best thing Trump ever did was coin the term "fake news"! The majority of democratic primary voters chose fake news, CNN, MSNBC, NPR ect.
Adam sh🪈t
Don't hate the player, hate the game... or, at very minimum, minimum, learn to play the game properly so you can hold high office sometime this millennia. Purity only matters with cocaine and heroin, not politics
Appropriate nickname
Barbara Lee has a better foreign policy record, but I would've still been happy with Katie's whiteboard lessons on the Senate floor. If elections were actually free and fair, and each candidate had equal resources with which to win over support from voters, I'd be shocked if one--or even both--of them made it through the primary, as experienced politicians with actual plans that would benefit working & middle-class Californians, and not just the 1 (or 5 if I'm being generous) percent. That being said, their campaigns must've known what kind of dirty (though entirely legal!) tricks Schiff might pull, and coordinated/consolidated early. Pity there's no RCV in California, or else they could've built a formidable coalition where voters didn't have to go 100% for one and zero for the other...but I guess that's why Newsome is so reluctant to let it become reality. Fuckin Californicator
Imagine Garvey actually beats pencil head lol
IMAGINE HOW STRONG OUR COUNTRY WOULD BE IF CONGRESS SPENT THEIR DAYS WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THEM.
can an independent still get the signatures to get on the ballot in Nov? we need another latino/a
Remember Kyle said: You are objectively wrong if you like fall and you should be ashamed of yourself.....
When are we getting ranked choice voting?
I'm proud I voted for her even though our tv was bombarded by negative anti Porter adds😮😅...
Well without context, saying rigged just makes you sound like a sore loser. No other way to look at it unfortunately.
So, now with context it makes perfect sense right? Derp.
I agree. She’s right, but hate the game not the player.
Kyles a democrat hack. It's only rigged when it's against the candidates he likes.
I think that's your fault for dismissing claims without looking further into the context.
Right? It's horrible optics and Katie swung and missed with this one, IMHO. In the popular lexicon, the word rigged has an undeniable connotation that ignores any "nuance". One doesn't get to try to change that just because they like the person using the term.
We all know what she meant, but this a self inflicted wound you could see from a hundred miles away.
Tbh, while the smear sucks, I'm fine with it. Katie was absolutely the most condescending politician I've ever had the displeasure of speaking with. She didn't even try to coat her condescension and distaste for folks who didn't agree with her - it was like she took lessons from Nancy Pelosi.
She was the right candidate
I voted for Katie, I don’t even know how Schiff won. His ads were horrible
Till today I haven't seen any one call out so boldly the two parties like Malcolm X did, and people are just so stupid they keep falling for this shit! And that was what 50+ yrs ago???? Yes, we deserve this shit until the people change it. Plain and simple don't expect a different result by doing the same shit! Einstein
Rigged no bought.
I can't wait for President Porter, President Cortez, and President Williamson.
Rigged means rigged. Trump didn't change the meaning.
Right? It's horrible optics and Katie swung and missed with this one, IMHO. In the popular lexicon, the word rigged has an undeniable connotation that ignores any "nuance". One doesn't get to try to change that just because they like the person using the term.
@@UniversalJuan Stop being a liberal.
Schiff is the definition of a corporate Democrat
How much did this one set AIPAC back
Spending more money isn't rigging holy fucking shit why does this need to be explained.
nah
@@Boris80b I never thought about it that way.
Like it or hate it. Money is part of politics
Big money in politics is a choice. Not a necessity.
@@Boris80b i dont support big money in politics. Its not "rigged" though.
Katie scares many in the Democrat party because she has earned the respect of the American people without having to bend down to big money donors. Maybe it's naive of me to think, but I appreciate that her common sense views, whether I agree with them or not, always have what she feels is best for people behind them. Jake and Adam need to look up "Genuine" in the dictionary to ever hope to understand Katie.
No idea. Had the video on but wasn't listening.
When did the Democrats become the party of "we do not use that language"? Are we three year olds voting for our new mommy?
Katie Porter is awesome
Don’t give up and try again next time . Adam Shiff showed his true color 🤮
The words Katie Porter should have used were "controlled opposition." Adam Schiff.chose his opponent by giving them money. Because shifry knows he would lose to Porter in the general election.
She should just used another word.
Are we really forgetting that Lee and Porter were outsmarted and outplayed by schiff. Instead of banding together, they let their pride get in the way and now we all lose. They should've came together and come up with a strategy as soon as they realized what schiffs campaign was doing. I don't care about the lies he was putting out, that much should've been a given. I'm disappointed in how they failed to respond to it
Yeah. I haven’t been following the primary in California too closely but the thing that definitely left me with questions was the fact that Porter and Lee split the vote against one another knowing that it would make it easier for Schiff to win. It’s a shame that it happened that way since either Porter or Lee would have been WAY better than Schiff in the Senate.
To be fair, even if you combined their vote totals, they were pretty far behind schiff and the republican. Now, if you said maybe if only one was in the race and could have gotten some momentum to outperform the sum of their votes, I’d agree with that.
No we aren’t forgetting that, but this is also very much true
@@PseudoSpaceMarine but behind the scene, Garvey was propped up so Schiff wouldn't face off Porter in the General Election. The state of California has a different primary law.
Out spent, not out smarted... neither of them were being backed like Schiff. They could've ran a campaign together from the beginning, and it would've done nothing. This is literally just people voting whatever name they saw the most in a positive light and doing no research.
Kyle's hair is rigged against looking good when it's blonde. We want the black back or silver please.
I kind of agree, I guess it feels just...off, somehow to me. But I feel like when he's got such good stuff to say so often, it makes me feel like he makes it work. Like if he like it, hell yeah, I'm here for it and Kyle is attractive enough to do whatever he wants. You know you can just put your headphone in and do something else while listening to him?
He's beautiful inside, which makes him chad on the outside. Just listen to his usually on-point analysis, and wash your dishes and sort your mail.
Politics in America is dumb enough without us all injecting irrelevant and useless critique toward people who don't have any reason to consider it at all.
This may work better on a fashion blog.
If you wanna start one, I'll join you & we can assess and pick apart the appearances and fashion choices of political figures & pundits!
I kinda like this idea now, damn I'm dumb lmao.
It was rigged tn the normal, traditional American way.