The VERY Messed Up Origins of A NEW HORSE | Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark Explained
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Please do 'Little Otik' movie
Just want to say been listening for a long time I've loved every video thankyou for your service I'm a big horror guy and love a good breakdown 😊
I would love it if u did a short on that last part of the video. I have a disability and it's so interesting and a bit sad learning about stuff like that. I like sharing those things on my TikTok.
"witchcraft" is "Still Well" AND ALIVE in South Australia... And elsewhere....
GOD Bless, Our Soul's!!!
For the GOOD in Humanity!!
Love Life, Always Bro!!
Is the factor code only US? I’m in Canada
Fun fact…horseshoe nails don’t actually go into the horse’s feet, but into the hooves, which are made of keratin, the same protein as hair and fingernails. The hooves are thick and nerve-free so the horses aren’t actually hurt by them.
So really,…the witch wouldn’t have gotten the nails in her hands and feet….but under her fingernails like a Vietnam War bamboo torture.
Is that how the magic works? Because horse shoes are made out of iron, and probably wouldn't contort the way you're describing. What if the hoof pulls into the hands and feet during the transformation pulling the nails into the flesh? We might inquire with an accomplished Transfigurer. Got an owl you can send to Hogwarts?
@@TroyPacelli that would cause the nails to be pulled on when shapeshifting, but the actual process & wearing of shoes as a horse would not hurt at all
Some extra lore for your consideration: horse shoes are an old apotropaic symbol like the adder stones mentioned in the video, meaning they were thought to repel witchcraft and evil. I wonder if this fact implies that the witch was in a acute agony, not just from the nails, but from physically touching the horse shoes. That's my theory, anyhow.
(Edit/correction: apotropaic symbols seem to be more often described as being aversions to witchcraft, rather than outright repellants. That doesn't really negate my theory imo, but I thought I should mention it.)
@@Thimble-berry Good point. I was chewing on the fact that horse shoes are made out of iron, which according to lore also doesn't mix well with magic.
I'm so intrigued by this discussion; truly quite thought provoking.
3:28 Getting horse shoes actually don't hurt the horses. It's like clipping their nails and getting a new haircut.
Yeah, though I'm sure after she loses the hooves.
@@cristlejohnson4900 Exactly. It forces you to think way too hard about exactly how the transformation works, but ultimately, the hoof is analogous to a finger nail, but where do those horseshoe nails end up when the hoof transforms back into ... flesh?
@@TroyPacellione way of thinking is that human nails are much thinner than horse hooves, so the nails that don't even scrath horses would go straight through human fingers/toes
That seems like a very reasonable way of thinking about it.
You know what this whole argument is? It's the “Well, ackchyually...” meme, where some know-it-all nerd just wants to show off some little factoid that, really, everyone already knows, and isn't at all relevant to the topic at hand. “You know, ACTUALLY, 'Frankenstein' is the doctor, not the monster...” In this case, I don't care how anyone THINKS the magic should work, or what they know about horse hooves and shoeing; the story says when she turned back into a woman, her hands and feet were a bloody mess because of the nails, so that's just how it is.
@TroyPacelli Despite it being an uhm actually, I feel they weren't rude enough to be attacked so hard.
In 'ye olde times' people who had frequent nightmares were said to be 'hag-ridden', because they believed the nightmares were caused by witches (hags) that visited them in the night. This is where the name Hagrid (from Harry Potter) comes from.
I’m assuming that’s where the word “haggard” comes from, yes?
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"The VERY Messed Up Origins of THE HORSE"
My lil horsegirl heart: I'm all ears go on
I vividly remember a very similar story (I think Portuguese? I'm Brazilian, so it probably was) I heard as a child, where a wizard would turn his apprentice into a beautiful white horse every day, sell the horse, and the apprentice would revert to human at night and flee. They did it often. Then some shenanigans happen and the wizard ends up turned into a horse himself. I don't recall the exact details but turning a random kid into a horse, selling said horse and then taking it back, just stuck with me as particularly creative grift lol
I read the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark version when I was young, and when I first started training horses, I remembered it pretty well still since I was about 12.
My manager would buy thoroughbreds off the track and I'd retrain them in hunter/jumper so we could resell them at a profit, and we'd keep them overnight before I rode them for the first time. When asked why by younger riders at the stables, I'd always say it was so we had a night to make sure it wasn't a witch, but it was really to let the sedatives (which they were given for the sale and transport, since they were always a bit nuts) wear off.
Bridles don’t go on horses’ backs, they go on their faces/heads. Other than that, good video, I enjoyed it.
This is the comment I was looking for.
Let us forgive him, he knows not what he was speaking of.
I thought he said saddle
My bad. The story specifically says bridle and I wrongfully assumed it was part of the saddle.
Jon Solo is awesome
Now thats what I call a revenge story 😂, as much sympathy I feel for the witch, but she was asking for it.
How was she asking for it exactly?
My thoughts exactly 👍🏾
An innocent woman being shot her brains out. How do you make this conclusion , are you religious?
I agree, I do feel bad for her but again for days she broke into the guys house and paralyzed him. Them beating him harshly to ride around the country side as fast as possible.
Like that's a taste of her own medicine right there.
@aprilwhitaker9806, are you kidding me?
A bridle is the system of straps that goes on the head. The saddle is the seat placed on the horse's back.
And horseshoes are nailed into the hoof, the equivalent of a fingernail, with no blood vessels or nerves. But i imagine transforming from a shod horse to a human might pull at least one finger- or toenail out by the root on each hand and foot.
Thank you. I've been scrolling comments looking for just your post. *Fellow urban dweller/horse owner
I caught that too.
You know, Disney's the Sword in the Stone was based off a book of the same name by T.H. White in 1938, and I think it's sufficiently dark enough to be on the show. Merlin's introduction is very good in that and I don't know what that says about me as a person.
I read that book back in Junior High, there was one part that I thought was messed up.
@Rylosalex what was messed up?
@@Passions5555
Near the end of the book Merlin tells Arthur that HE had stolen Arthur from his parents.
@jonsolo sword and stone messed up origin video?
Can you do a video of the origins of slappy from the goosebumps books? It would be interesting to find out about the origins of evil dummies
I would love this as well
A Horse is a Horse, of course, of course, unless you are a talking horse and if you are a talking horse you’re probably possessed
1001 Arabian Nights has a story about animal transformations too. There are quite some similarities only the woman is not a witch but an algul and transforms her husband into a dog after he confronts her that he figured out that he had married an algul. He tranforms back and turns his wife into a donkey as retribution.
What's an algul?
@@Passions5555 I think it's something similar to the ghul/ghoul, a creature that feasts on the flesh of humans, and sometimes has other mystical powers besides its ability to take an apparently normal human guise.
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LOL, loved the sarcasm
2:45 is this image AI?
The horse skeleton is… wrong. The ears are weird, but the frets are just mind bogglingly wrong.
Is it AI? I have a hard time imagining a human going to such trouble to make such a weird image.
Definite uncanny valley!
Yes!
I’m so happy you went back to look at the scary stories to tell in the dark trilogy. There’s so many interesting things to look at and you are delving into such a influential book series from my childhood with these stories
Night hags/mares sounds a lot like night terrors
Pretty sure they're somewhere between that and sleep paralysis...it's why another old-fashioned name for sleep paralysis is "Old Hag Syndrome," because people sometimes believed that it was a hag/witch/demon sitting on or otherwise compressing their chest, preventing them from moving. They might even believe that they're seeing a being sitting atop them, as sleep paralysis can induce hallucinations.
@@Mokiefraggleit also can be a heart disease. My grandma had one and couldn't sleep on her left side. Whenever she slept on her left side, she experienced nightmares, as if someone choked her in her sleep. She cried loudly and waked up
There are also mares in old Slavic mythology. According to it, they're goddesses of night, dark and death
I didnt hallucinate this one! Validation!!
Okay now that I’ve recovered from being recognized, how about the story involving the wolf girl? There has to be a mountain of cultural implications behind it.
I first got to know the Swedish version of this story. The brave farmhand is a Finn in this one, and the witch is his master's wife.
Cool, the first time I hear about a witch's ladder! Another thing I find fascinating is how witches turn into a yellow butterfly to steal people's breath, kids' liver, and milk and butter [hence the name of the butterfly, I guess...].
Well, they never stole my liver or any other kids' livers that I know of, let alone breath, butter, and milk, but those fucking witches sure did a number on our cabbage and cauliflower when I was a little boy.
I'd suggest the red spot or even the babysitter and the man upstairs....
I really love your videos Jon❤❤❤❤.
Let’s get ready to get spooky!!
So, until I came across your series.. and like.. literally RN, I fully thought "The Red Spot" was a Shel Silverstein story from where the sidewalk ends, MY WHOLE LIFE, and I'm 45.
Seeing the graphics for Scary Stories tonight made me realize I was citing it's origins wrong this entire time!
I hate to be a nitpicker, but this was bothering me the whole episode: The title of the story is "A New Horse", not "The Horse".
not nitpicky! that’s a big mistake on my part. I’ll change the title of the video now.
Not sure how I missed this one… seems like every episode has to have a glaring mistake like that 😓
Well all make mistakes, don't worry.
Super honored to get a reply, though. Long time fan.@@JonSolo
Nice that your back with whats now my favorite recurring series. Though it does make me wonder if they'll adapt it for the upcoming movie sequel.
Man I'm going to be clocked in at work at that time
When I was young I used have sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Asked my mom why I couldn't move once and she said "A witch is riding you. Put a glass of water under the bed." 😒
Even after I figured it out I never thought to look that up, so was interesting to have this pop up in my recommends.
u tell the books version creepier than the book did
There is also goddess Mara (Morena, Mora) in old Slavic mythology. It symbolizes night, death, another side of life. Plus she could symbolize the seasons change and water flow. She's actually very similar to Hekata in old Greek mythology
Do one for Jurassic Park! See through the darkness of the book in comparisons to the movie!
Excellent idea! The original story was written like a scientific report and has a lot more detail about how people were killed by Veloceraptors in the beginning
That’s outside of Jon’s wheelhouse.
@@psychokinrazalon WDYM? 🤨
@@MRNentertainment7122 And more Compsognathus kills & injuries
Been waiting for Thursday here we go🔥👀
No matter how scary the stories were , nothing can be the haunting ink charcoal drawings by the great Steven Gammel
This made my day!!! Thanks Jon!
The Messed-Up Origins of A Wrinkle in Time
The Messed-Up Origins of A Ring of Endless Light
This is one my favorites of the series! Please keep these going! They really bring me back to my childhood! I would love it if you did an episode covering The Wolf Girl or The Trouble.
With how Jon was giving us a warning in the beginning, I thought for sure it was gonna be awful.
Oddly enough I feel nothing. This was honestly a happy story since the problem was resolved lol. Like the actual story- not the real life events or history about it.
The real life history is just par for the course at this point.
Please keep doing these! They are amazing! I love learning about the stories behind my nightly terror fests as a child lol.
I grew up with the scary stories and love the eerie artwork! I always wondered where the stories came from. I’d love to hear more!
Can you do messed up origins of little Jack Horner, Old Macdonald, Home on the Range, and Rub a Dub Dub?
I think Rub a Dub Dub is already on the channel!
I've always loved stories about witches, so naturally this was one of my favorites from the Scary Stories trilogy (along with "Such Things Happen"); I had no idea it had such extensive origins.
I don't know if it's been adapted into anything, but I've long wished you would do a video on the old tale "The Juniper Tree."
Love your content
Great video! I love the orgins of the scary stories. I dont know if you've already done this one, but The Drum always terrified me. Would be interested to hear it's origins.
My wife told me that those knots that occur in a horse's mane🪢 are called angel braids and the souls of dead children hold onto them as the horse guides those spirits to the afterlife.
They're known as fairy knots around here. My horse gets them pretty badly when it rains!
Omg when I was a lil girl my older cousin use to tell us this tale. But it was always attached to church or something so we would be good. Wow!
Pssst! The story is called The New Horse. I had grabbed my books to refer back to where the stories came from. I didn't know there was a section, but also haven't picked up the books in a long while. A few scared me as a kid, the red spot still gives me shudders. Fast Forwarded the scene in the movies. No nightmares for me...
***keeps up the “ Scary Stories” theme!
There are so many ❤❤❤ BEST childhood memory!!!
Hey Jon, I was hoping for your next Messed Up Origins, covering some fairy tales, you could cover one of my favorites from my childhood titled "The Fox Who Lost His Tail" as the message from it still is relevant to today.
The story is definitely brutal not just the treatment and transformation from human to horse but it's the description of the story and the actions of humans where the brutality truly shows I remember reading this as a kid and I still feel the same way for the witch back then as I did now. She got what she deserved through and through can't change my mind.
I really like your content, keep up the good work.
I'd love for you to cover Sounds. I know it's based on a tale that happened in KY, but I haven't been able to find a single thing about it.
Hi Jon love your videos.
Could you do the origins of the story "The White Satin Evening Gown?" It's one of my favorites.
She turned me into a newt! I got better.
I use to read these books in elementary school! A blast from the past!
I hope you do more of these stories from this book
That was awesome I love horses & horse stories. Even if there scary.
You should explain Bess next.
I remember reading a story like this in Lady Wild's book on Irish folklore
gotta love that shirt
Since you've been looking at the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books a lot, have you ever heard of the Short & Shivery series by Robert D. San Souci? They're collections of ghost stories from around the world, ranging from classical to contemporary. The first one came out in 1989, so they may be a little hard to find, but there's some great stories in there, ranging from myths to urban legends, and they were fabulously illustrated. Favorites of mine in the first one were "The Waterfall of Ghosts," a Japanese folk tale translated originally by Lafcadio Hearn, "The Ghostly Little Girl," which is a pastiche of a few modern ghost stories from the Northern California coast, and "Lady Eleanore's Mantle," based on a Nathaniel Hawthorne story. Much like the Scary Stories books, there's a section devoted to citing some background on where these stories come from, and usually mentions more details about the places some of the country-specific myths come from. Might be worth checking out.
This might be a lil late but can you possibly do the messed up origins of Davy crockett? Always loved the Disney version and I’d love to here your perspective on it.
Thank you for the warning 🩷 I’ll skip this one and see the next one as soon as it comes out😊
Those knots in a horse's mane are still called a witch's knot. They are a pain in the butt to get out. They're kinda like a dreadlock
I swear a saw a Merry Melodies that used that story back when I was a child.
It’s heart breaking how in one year a combination of prejudice, irrational beliefs and sheer stupidity led to the deaths of so many innocent lives. I’ve never been to Salem, Massachusetts but I would love to visit the town one of these days to morn the victims of such heinous crimes brought on by religious persecution and hysteria.😔
Of course. Which is more sad, most of those women called "witches" in old times did experience herbal medicine and actually cured people. With the lack of doctors in Ancient times and their expensity, it was an only way out for common people
I can live with this. I thought it was gonna b way worse, but I like the story. Karma rlly did its thing there.
Did she put a spell on her husband I mean how hard with her husband sleeping not to know that she's been gone all night long
Bridles go on Horses' faces for leading and steering them, a saddle is what youre describing. Great video though.
Such an awesome story, really horrific real life origins though 😢
This is a very scary story.
So horse people back me up but doesn’t horseshoes not actually hurt the horse? It’s kinda like nail clippers with us, doesn’t hurt unless you go too deep.
I farted when the door creak noise came
So did the witch while in horse-form feel the nails going through her hands and feet or did she only feel it when transformed back? And how did a farmhand become a master of magic in a few hours? Give me hard magic rules!!!!!
The witch got a dose of karma.
Yikes! If there's a darker origin than this one, I'm not sure I want to see it. Good video man!
Suggestion Wonderful sausage heard a similar story hear in Chicago and think it might have inspired the Author
That is an awesome F-ing story. Why couldn't someone just make a short film about that?
When I saw the title I thought this was going to be myth into the horse, the actual animal. It would be interesting to see the origins from different cultures.
He does lore and mythology.
That’s how you interpreted the creepy af thumbnail?
That old gray mare ain't what she used to be.
JSTOR is my fave.
Please do the bogeyman next!
It makes you wonder if anyone tried the “No u” card. I know I would.
How to beat being accused of being a witch: Accuse someone else - ideally, someone of power.
What better way to convince people that you’re innocent than by stating why wouldn’t a witch disguise themselves or possess someone with more authority to control the townspeople better?
Good thing I ate before watching this 😂
Maybe one of the inspirations for The Horse was The Bell Witch.
Can you cover weeping angels. Thank you.❤️
My favorite stories would have to be the Thing and the White Wolf. Honestly why did my school let me read these at 10 years old😭
Jon, I really need you to look up the difference between "psychotic" and "psychopathic." Psychotics tend to be harmless to others, if not to themselves.
And Ukraine - I heard (yes, that's spoken story) a story about a man, his wife and his neighbor, the difference - witch transformed her husband to a horse and sold that horse to the neighbor and the new owner needed a gelding. So he took his new horse to a blacksmith, the blacksmith gelded that horse. And the witch came to her neighbor and looked and started yelling and took the bridle off...
Jon: "And if you think that's a brutal ending, just wait until we get to the origin story."
Me: Brutal? *Pfft!* Sounds to me like a heaping helping of Karma. 😈
I can understand the people's worry about the tangled mane. I guess every responsible horse owner brushed their horse's mane regularly. So it was unnatural for it to get tangled overnight.
Just as a bit of trivia: the last prosecutions of people (in this case two women) for witchcraft in England and Scotand under The Witchcraft Act of 1735 came in 1944 when Helen Duncan was prosecuted, in part, for supposedly telling people at her seance about the sinking of HMS Barham in 1941 (which had been a closely held state secret). Instead of hanging, burning or drowning, she was sentenced to nine months in jail. Six months after that prosecution, 72-year-old Jane Yorke was the very last person prosecuted under the Act. She escaped with a relatively measly £5 fine.
I've often wondered if the prevalence of 'witches' in English and Scottish society in the 1930s and early '40s had any influence on Mary Norton (and later Disney's) *Bedknobs and Broomsticks*.
Can you do also the classical mystical story about witches written by Roald Dahl? It is called "Witches" and is also ecranized by Disney if I'm not mistaken. But, as usual, classical story is a lot darker and more horrible than the movie, which I find very entertaining and even humorous one
I feel like this version of the story needs a continuation. The witch could've easily accused Boone of being a warlock that cast a spell on her.
That T shirt is absolute ghastly.
Can you do messed up origins of coralline?
I believe he did already. :)
I heard a similar stoty where a man coukd transform into a horse voluntarily, but if someone ever put horseshoes on him the transformation would become permanent
They were featured on an episode of Netflix
Poor mrs.Horne..😢
Thanks for the warning. I won't be watching it around grandma. 😅
Hello Ello
If she was actually turning people into a horse and abusing them throughout the night against their will she's in no way any kind of innocent victim and she earned her punishment