I had no idea that vampires could be possessed by a fomori. That's actually pretty cool, it's merging two of the Garous more well known supernatural enemies into one.
Yes, but for a vampire, such coexistence is not good. However, this is not good for anyone. As far as I remember, in the course of mutations in these creatures all limbs fall off, the body turns into a huge solid muscle, and a tentacle with a sharp tip at the end grows out of the mouth, for more efficient blood consumption. No wonder they are called Bloodworms.
I'm working on a massive project (Garou in the Highlands). My first Wyrm npc I actually created to be redeemable. He was a Junkie, and he had a Bane bound to him, but the ritual was interrupted so he isn't fully possessed. He has powers, and is close to death, but he can have the evil exorcised frae him. Up to the players. I'm like wise trying tae create a Cult of Wyrm Worshippers who aren't affiliated with Pentex, like really evil twisted Druids (started by BSD Kin).
I'm born in 1992 so I discovered WoD pretty late but I fallen immediately in love with it. Your videos are a blessing because it taught me so much ! You talk about a lot of detailed elements that I'll never had the occasion to reach (because the old versions was out of print in my country at the time I discovered WoD) and I want to say that your content is very inspiring for me ! (I'm planning a campaign soon) Thank you so much ! ♡
I introduced a former co-player infamous for his scary/sleezy/slimy (always some combination thereof) player characters to Freak Legion. The resulting abominations, when he ran his first Werewolf: the Apocalypse campaign, probably traumatized half the table. Oops.
Fomories can be easily from foot troops, horror elements that easily can be disposed away, but that easily can mess up with characters (aka their familis) and finaly boss fights. Fun News From the Front: My pack slaughtered a ship full of Vo'lag, Fomories, BSD's and a Boss Bane. It was a 'hit and run' attempt that ended up to become a 'hit and wreck', as it often happens with werewolves. Yet still our resources are not limitless and we ended up with no Gnosis and Rage, my character still had lots of Rage but without Willpower and Gnosis might end up killing his packmates along with the enemies. we managed to take down the ship, but there were two more ships comming and our Sept Leaders came to the Rescue. Not to mention the Umbral Stom that was Raiging, causing Random hazards in our path, thankfully for both us and the enemy, but still we have to bust out of there or vanish from existance. At least we saved some delicious kinfolk :P
Only one thing can be said about them, these creatures are lost forever. Unlike other Werewolf enemies who may not be so unambiguous, and sometimes even deserve mercy, Fomori are an absolute evil. They lost everything human that was in them and became abbomination of vice and cruelty. I doubt that there is any force capable of freeing such a possessed human being. The best you can do with them is to destroy them. Thank you so much for the new video. Great job, Nathaniel, as always.
@@TheMapleTable wait what now The Spanish Inquisition was possessed?? I haven't watched the video so if it's in the video and I asked a dumb question sorry
@@kwentongpotchero6750 I actually think, with containing "indestructible lizard" "red lake of monsters" and "a thing eating collective unconscious", they probably can
@@TheMapleTable HIT marks are robots made out of primium, an anti-magic metal, by the Technocracy to hunt Mages. You have to get really creative when fighting a HIT mark because attacking them directly doesn’t work so well given their magic resistance on top of their mundane durability. I was playing in the Camarilla club when the old WoD was coming to an end. We fought a HIT mark 7 that bonded with a mother weaver spirit. The thing went rogue, turned into a liquid metal Kaiju shaped like a human-spider hybrid and attacked Ruston Louisiana where it was made. It was through the combined efforts of Tradition mages, the Technocracy, Werewolves, Ratkin, and the National Guard that it was brought down, and even then only because our ST have us access to miracle chips that we could turn in for one uncontested miracle.
Im so glad I found your channel. Ive been a long term fan of the Old World of Darkness since the mid 90s. Your videos are fun, informative and very entertaining. Thank you for creating this.
I actually had Wendigos as famori in my vampire chronicles. It just makes more sense than them being a werewolf tribe as the famori possession is pretty much the exact same as the original wendigo stories say the creatures are made
Just discovered your channel tonight, big hell yeah. Hoping you do a video that explains the inner workings of Pentex in detail; for example, the incorporation of Banes into their company products and their internal private military forces :)
this is literally the best RPG out there and its sorely under rated. From the mythology, to the historical stories World of Darkness had such a rich tapestry of things to pu8ll from that made amazing games.
I use banes to check players for not cleansing or taking cleansing rituals for granted in exchange for fetishes or more glory driven aspects forgetting that they are also spirit warriors. Even for catering to a certain psychologically negative mindset too much in the presence of something that feeds on it. Used a nightmare bane to take control of a bonegnawer using his fears to overcome his will by lowering the difficulty to do so each night it crept into his mind using child hood trauma. But let's not stop there Nath! As an ST I also use these systems to keep players on their toes. Demon the Fallen (Disgraced Angels) The Possessed (the book where I can basically use any spirit I want given reason with autonomy scores of the host willing or not. Avoid the cursed samurai in eastern stories. ) Wraith the oblivian (shout out to all my specters and shadows who can puppet others) Totems (and there is one in particular in the Amazon that does it to whomever and wherever they are in the Amazon if it suits her taste. But losing to the possession means you lose a chunk of your will, most likely forever) And of course Past life back when it was a bit broader and flaws the played to it were in style. Yeah.. that wendigos tribal ancestor Klaive-Caster has taken control of your young wendigo friend in the presence of his mortal enemy from long ago. Combat is about to ensue. Use all the.tools!
Last night I thought of a concept of a girl named Becky whose life changed after she started eating at O'Tolley's she got addicted to the stuff and got hungrier and hungrier. Then everything changed when one day she was trying to save money because her habit was expensive but got hungry again she discovered that she could swallow anything the size of a medium-sized dog or a small person. From then on she started eating cats, dogs, small children and midgets. She looks relatively normal if a bit on the chubby-side, she wears jeans and a t-shirt with a little bit of her gut poking out. Attributes: strength 2, dexterity 2, stamina 2, charisma 2, manipulation 2, appearance 2, perception 3, intelligence 2, wits 2 Abilities: athletics 1, brawl 1, dodge 1, empathy 1, streetwise 1, subterfuge 2, drive 1 Fomori Powers: mouth of the wyrm, stomach pumper
Love this so much 😍😄👍. Question, is there a d&d/pathfinder equivalent of the banes/formor/urge wyrms and is there a way to put werewolf: the apocalypse and hunter: the reckoning into d&d/pathfinder?
I thought of another Fomor who was a woman named Beth who went to Dr. Veridian's Workout Program and came out as a special case. I got the idea from reading a little bit of Freak Legion and seeing a gigantic muscle babe fomor tearing a Stargazer in half. Attributes: strength 3, dexterity 2, stamina 3, charisma 3, manipulation 2, appearance 5, perception 3, intelligence 3, wits 3 Abilities: athletics 2, brawl 2, intimidation 3, subterfuge 2, drive 1 Fomori Powers: mega-strength (+3) enhancement, body expansion Taints: derangement (misandry, sadism, homicidal) mental de-evolution (+3; mega-strength)
Been watching your content luckily by accident for the last few days. Played wod as a silver fang back in the 90s. I heard the stopped and revamped the whole thing. Did they bring werewolf the apocalypse back with original tribes?
There's not just Formori when it comes to spirit possession in WWTA, those are just when Banes posses. When Weaver spirits posses the host is called a drone, I forgot the Wyld ones though.
What if the Wyrm and Pentex developed together a Fomori virus that make infected humans to become crazy, violently aggressive and sexually depraved like the Reavers from Serenity and the Crossed from Crossed comics? How would Garou and other Fera react?
So a Wendigo form real world Native American Legend would be a Fomori? Note: I'm not talking about the Werewolf tribe, The Wendigo. Im talking about the cannabist monster of Legend.
Good to know. I'm doing a Vampire story taking place in my home state of Wisconsin and I was trying to figure out how to use the Wendigo monster as an encounter.
@@skarenblodhrafn5404 Country Gangrel might as well pick up the book Werewolf the Apocalypse or even Werewolf the Forsaken so they can deal with running from and surviving werewolves and the fomori. Lupin Lore 1 dot, Wrym Lore 1 dot. totaling 6xp just for their first spring, summer, and autumn living outside city limits. Also it will help to pick up the book Changeling the Lost as the Hedge can draw or pull characters into itself due to their lusts and fears. Ending up as a Hedge creature monster changeling themselves. Yeah, having a vampire that can use seasonal court/ goblin contracts and the kindred gains a Wrym rating.
Sorry i misread your question, no there are many many other nasties in the world of darkness. Banes are another common one. I plan to cover them in the future
No, there are a few others. There are the Demons, or Fallen Angels from Demon: The Fallen; the "Sleeping Ones", i don't remember what they are called but they are something thr Baali Clan can and often worship; and the Demons of Hell, the patrons of the Infernalist Sect of the Nephandi, or Mages who want to annihilate the universe...to name a few.
What kind or clan of vampires who have the ability to produce instantaneous combustion to make fire to command the earth elements like water n wind! To calm stormy seas to burst water pipes when they get angry? K
You know I wonder what would happen if a Hunter's desperation got them bound to a bane. What would a Hunter who had their cell shredded by Garou got so consumed by their drive for vengeance that they attracted a bane and turned Fomori?
"Do you like demon possession? You really shouldn't."
Sometimes good opening lines write themselves
Donald: **Wants to leave Pantex**
Bane of dispair: **YEEETUS SPIRITUS**
"Should we fire the demonic, walking corpse?"
"What, do you wanna be the one to hand him the pink slip?"
I had no idea that vampires could be possessed by a fomori. That's actually pretty cool, it's merging two of the Garous more well known supernatural enemies into one.
I didn't either until I started looking into it! Imagine the possibilities though... And it explains so much about the Giovanni.
Yes, but for a vampire, such coexistence is not good. However, this is not good for anyone.
As far as I remember, in the course of mutations in these creatures all limbs fall off, the body turns into a huge solid muscle, and a tentacle with a sharp tip at the end grows out of the mouth, for more efficient blood consumption. No wonder they are called Bloodworms.
@@TheMapleTable yep. I rp'd fomori so much I was called cap'n fomori. It pissed me off in the day, now I find it hilarious XD
Fomori don't posess vampires. Bane spirits posess vampires and they become Fomori.
@@devoureroftheworlds4764 The movie Blade II was such a knock off of VtM.
The more I dig up about WOD the more I realize it will be easier to drag and drop it into 40k
I'm working on a massive project (Garou in the Highlands). My first Wyrm npc I actually created to be redeemable. He was a Junkie, and he had a Bane bound to him, but the ritual was interrupted so he isn't fully possessed. He has powers, and is close to death, but he can have the evil exorcised frae him.
Up to the players.
I'm like wise trying tae create a Cult of Wyrm Worshippers who aren't affiliated with Pentex, like really evil twisted Druids (started by BSD Kin).
Moral dilemmas are the best, you really get ro see who your characters are in those situations
I'm born in 1992 so I discovered WoD pretty late but I fallen immediately in love with it. Your videos are a blessing because it taught me so much ! You talk about a lot of detailed elements that I'll never had the occasion to reach (because the old versions was out of print in my country at the time I discovered WoD) and I want to say that your content is very inspiring for me ! (I'm planning a campaign soon) Thank you so much ! ♡
Im glad to hear it! I didn't discover wod until the early 2000s and I loved it
I introduced a former co-player infamous for his scary/sleezy/slimy (always some combination thereof) player characters to Freak Legion. The resulting abominations, when he ran his first Werewolf: the Apocalypse campaign, probably traumatized half the table. Oops.
Fomories can be easily from foot troops, horror elements that easily can be disposed away, but that easily can mess up with characters (aka their familis) and finaly boss fights.
Fun News From the Front: My pack slaughtered a ship full of Vo'lag, Fomories, BSD's and a Boss Bane.
It was a 'hit and run' attempt that ended up to become a 'hit and wreck', as it often happens with werewolves. Yet still our resources are not limitless and we ended up with no Gnosis and Rage, my character still had lots of Rage but without Willpower and Gnosis might end up killing his packmates along with the enemies. we managed to take down the ship, but there were two more ships comming and our Sept Leaders came to the Rescue. Not to mention the Umbral Stom that was Raiging, causing Random hazards in our path, thankfully for both us and the enemy, but still we have to bust out of there or vanish from existance. At least we saved some delicious kinfolk :P
Only one thing can be said about them, these creatures are lost forever. Unlike other Werewolf enemies who may not be so unambiguous, and sometimes even deserve mercy, Fomori are an absolute evil. They lost everything human that was in them and became abbomination of vice and cruelty. I doubt that there is any force capable of freeing such a possessed human being. The best you can do with them is to destroy them.
Thank you so much for the new video. Great job, Nathaniel, as always.
The real mercy for them is death.
Also bane possession destroys the host soul/consciousness
Thumbnail: don't get possessed
Me: I don't plan on getting possessed today, maybe tomorrow
No body plans to be possessed, it happens when you least expect it. Like the spanish inquisition
@@TheMapleTable wait what now The Spanish Inquisition was possessed?? I haven't watched the video so if it's in the video and I asked a dumb question sorry
@@Aesirfollower224 lol, no im making old references... Although I now have an idea for another video...
You could also use urban legends or even SCPs. Might be a cool way of mixing Hunter in there
Agreed, they are a very versatile enemy
Imagin a werwolf hunting a Formori, turning a corner, just to see an MTFlocking away the thing like it's just another tuesday
Scps wouldn't stand a chance against WoD
@@kwentongpotchero6750 I actually think, with containing "indestructible lizard" "red lake of monsters" and "a thing eating collective unconscious", they probably can
@@goose4919
Hummans from WoD can manipulate mathematics .By what I mean by scp only the English branch .
Next to HIT Marks, Fomori are my favorite RPG antagonists. They are awesome and can fit in any chronicle.
I cant say that name jumps out at me. I'll have to look into them.
@@TheMapleTable Think T-800s and T-1000s and you got HIT Marks.
@@TheMapleTable HIT marks are robots made out of primium, an anti-magic metal, by the Technocracy to hunt Mages. You have to get really creative when fighting a HIT mark because attacking them directly doesn’t work so well given their magic resistance on top of their mundane durability.
I was playing in the Camarilla club when the old WoD was coming to an end. We fought a HIT mark 7 that bonded with a mother weaver spirit. The thing went rogue, turned into a liquid metal Kaiju shaped like a human-spider hybrid and attacked Ruston Louisiana where it was made. It was through the combined efforts of Tradition mages, the Technocracy, Werewolves, Ratkin, and the National Guard that it was brought down, and even then only because our ST have us access to miracle chips that we could turn in for one uncontested miracle.
Im so glad I found your channel. Ive been a long term fan of the Old World of Darkness since the mid 90s. Your videos are fun, informative and very entertaining. Thank you for creating this.
Your welcome! Im glad you are enjoying them. Welcome to the table
The Freak Legion book is pretty great if you want to build some really messed up Fomori.
Ill probably have to pick this up
I got it it’s opening is pretty cool
@@TheMapleTable I got it it’s opening is pretty cool.
@@TheMapleTable The book also talks about fomor families and those in them.
I actually had Wendigos as famori in my vampire chronicles. It just makes more sense than them being a werewolf tribe as the famori possession is pretty much the exact same as the original wendigo stories say the creatures are made
Just discovered your channel tonight, big hell yeah.
Hoping you do a video that explains the inner workings of Pentex in detail; for example, the incorporation of Banes into their company products and their internal private military forces :)
Welcome to the table.
Thank you for covering this subject!! 🖤
You are welcome!
this is literally the best RPG out there and its sorely under rated. From the mythology, to the historical stories World of Darkness had such a rich tapestry of things to pu8ll from that made amazing games.
Been working on a fomor infused with a balefire ban. Like a radioactive human torch.
Outstanding job as usual! This video is a great way to introduce fomori for new players!😁🤘🏻🍯
No one is really talking about WoD unless its vampire so I wanted to cover some of the things people don't generally cover
it's fascinating how this lore is so well entwined with history and religion as we know it in the real world....
... or IS this the real world?!
Well... I have had some conversationd with folks who feel like the World of Darkness is more real than our world lol
if I get possessed twice is repossession and do I need to put that on my credit history?
Its a black mark on you for sure lol
@@TheMapleTable well dang
@@gameon_ct Gotta watch out for those double ghost possessions :p
I use banes to check players for not cleansing or taking cleansing rituals for granted in exchange for fetishes or more glory driven aspects forgetting that they are also spirit warriors. Even for catering to a certain psychologically negative mindset too much in the presence of something that feeds on it.
Used a nightmare bane to take control of a bonegnawer using his fears to overcome his will by lowering the difficulty to do so each night it crept into his mind using child hood trauma.
But let's not stop there Nath!
As an ST I also use these systems to keep players on their toes.
Demon the Fallen (Disgraced Angels)
The Possessed (the book where I can basically use any spirit I want given reason with autonomy scores of the host willing or not. Avoid the cursed samurai in eastern stories. )
Wraith the oblivian (shout out to all my specters and shadows who can puppet others)
Totems (and there is one in particular in the Amazon that does it to whomever and wherever they are in the Amazon if it suits her taste. But losing to the possession means you lose a chunk of your will, most likely forever)
And of course Past life back when it was a bit broader and flaws the played to it were in style.
Yeah.. that wendigos tribal ancestor Klaive-Caster has taken control of your young wendigo friend in the presence of his mortal enemy from long ago. Combat is about to ensue.
Use all the.tools!
Last night I thought of a concept of a girl named Becky whose life changed after she started eating at O'Tolley's she got addicted to the stuff and got hungrier and hungrier. Then everything changed when one day she was trying to save money because her habit was expensive but got hungry again she discovered that she could swallow anything the size of a medium-sized dog or a small person. From then on she started eating cats, dogs, small children and midgets. She looks relatively normal if a bit on the chubby-side, she wears jeans and a t-shirt with a little bit of her gut poking out.
Attributes: strength 2, dexterity 2, stamina 2, charisma 2, manipulation 2, appearance 2, perception 3, intelligence 2, wits 2
Abilities: athletics 1, brawl 1, dodge 1, empathy 1, streetwise 1, subterfuge 2, drive 1
Fomori Powers: mouth of the wyrm, stomach pumper
Heck yeah
Monster time lol
Love this so much 😍😄👍. Question, is there a d&d/pathfinder equivalent of the banes/formor/urge wyrms and is there a way to put werewolf: the apocalypse and hunter: the reckoning into d&d/pathfinder?
Theres always a way. I have been thinking about how I would add werewolves to starfinder as im nore familiar with that system than pathfinder.
Wish you'd do a video on Blood Wyrms.
I can add them to the list
I thought of another Fomor who was a woman named Beth who went to Dr. Veridian's Workout Program and came out as a special case.
I got the idea from reading a little bit of Freak Legion and seeing a gigantic muscle babe fomor tearing a Stargazer in half.
Attributes: strength 3, dexterity 2, stamina 3, charisma 3, manipulation 2, appearance 5, perception 3, intelligence 3, wits 3
Abilities: athletics 2, brawl 2, intimidation 3, subterfuge 2, drive 1
Fomori Powers: mega-strength (+3) enhancement, body expansion
Taints: derangement (misandry, sadism, homicidal) mental de-evolution (+3; mega-strength)
Been watching your content luckily by accident for the last few days. Played wod as a silver fang back in the 90s. I heard the stopped and revamped the whole thing. Did they bring werewolf the apocalypse back with original tribes?
They are making a 5th edition for werewolf but its not out yet. Most of the original tribes are coming back but not all
funny enough, this is closer in nature to Wendigo than the Garou tribe named after them
*pulls up chair* Should the Litany be overhauled?
Should Werewolves petition new spirits for powers (MANTIS SHRIMP PUNCH!)?
That should definitely be a super power lol. I think the litany will have to change out of necessity...
What book are the Vo’Lag mentioned in? I’m looking to include them in my current story
I don't have more than a couple of references, I believe the W20 changing breeds mentioned them and some notes in the 2nd Ed revised.
What you doing think about is project illiad
There's not just Formori when it comes to spirit possession in WWTA, those are just when Banes posses. When Weaver spirits posses the host is called a drone, I forgot the Wyld ones though.
The Wyld ones are called Gorgons, and there are Gaian versions called Kami
Random question are hellhounds a thing?
That is a good question... I dont Remeber seeing anything specifically about them but having a fomor posses an animal and mutate it is not uncommon
@@TheMapleTable I mean it wouldn't be cool to walk on one so if they do exist I need to know places that they are so I can go the different direction.
Werewolf the apocalypse TV series Would be awesome
I agree, something with a mid level budget, vampires, mages and wereqolves for sure with some flavour of the other games.
What if the Wyrm and Pentex developed together a Fomori virus that make infected humans to become crazy, violently aggressive and sexually depraved like the Reavers from Serenity and the Crossed from Crossed comics?
How would Garou and other Fera react?
Yall should try crusader kings with world of darkness mod
So a Wendigo form real world Native American Legend would be a Fomori? Note: I'm not talking about the Werewolf tribe, The Wendigo. Im talking about the cannabist monster of Legend.
Most likely in this example
Good to know. I'm doing a Vampire story taking place in my home state of Wisconsin and I was trying to figure out how to use the Wendigo monster as an encounter.
@@skarenblodhrafn5404 Country Gangrel might as well pick up the book Werewolf the Apocalypse or even Werewolf the Forsaken so they can deal with running from and surviving werewolves and the fomori. Lupin Lore 1 dot, Wrym Lore 1 dot. totaling 6xp just for their first spring, summer, and autumn living outside city limits. Also it will help to pick up the book Changeling the Lost as the Hedge can draw or pull characters into itself due to their lusts and fears. Ending up as a Hedge creature monster changeling themselves.
Yeah, having a vampire that can use seasonal court/ goblin contracts and the kindred gains a Wrym rating.
Can Fomor possess Changelings due to their connections to the Unseelie Houses?
I would have to look into it. im not exactly familiar with the changeling lore.
Are the fomori the only demons in world of darkness??
Sorry i misread your question, no there are many many other nasties in the world of darkness. Banes are another common one. I plan to cover them in the future
No, there are a few others. There are the Demons, or Fallen Angels from Demon: The Fallen; the "Sleeping Ones", i don't remember what they are called but they are something thr Baali Clan can and often worship; and the Demons of Hell, the patrons of the Infernalist Sect of the Nephandi, or Mages who want to annihilate the universe...to name a few.
What kind or clan of vampires who have the ability to produce instantaneous combustion to make fire to command the earth elements like water n wind! To calm stormy seas to burst water pipes when they get angry? K
Is there a playbook for playing as a famori?
not really, the only thing i have found closest to this would be in the 20th anniversary edition book of the wrym.
@@TheMapleTable thanks I’ll keep an eye open
Freak legion, has the fomori splat rules.
@@thomaschellis8015 forgive me I am not familiar with the term “splat rules”
@@LucienTheWitch splats are the different groups and critters in wod.
You know I wonder what would happen if a Hunter's desperation got them bound to a bane. What would a Hunter who had their cell shredded by Garou got so consumed by their drive for vengeance that they attracted a bane and turned Fomori?