Marie likes Amy more than Debra because Marie never had the same sick and creepy infatuation with Robert as she does with Ray, which has led to Debra being public enemy number one.
She also liked Amy more than Debra because she’s a nice person. Debra was a fall down drunk who got canned by a sweet boss because she couldn’t be told what to do…. Debra wanted a babysitter so she nags Ray to pay for it. when the kids obviously love the babysitter more she gets jealous and cans her. She couldn’t cook,clean or raise the kids. She also not only got a DUI but should’ve gotten DV charges for the amount of times she beat her husband like the female OJ Simpson that she was
Good for Debra for not caring!! If you want to be liked by someone as manipulative and passive-aggressive as Marie, you've set the bar pretty freaking low.
One of the few times I've actually agreed with Debra over Ray. Who cares what your manipulative, petty, mother in law who dislikes you no matter what you do thinks?
Of course Marie likes Amy more than Debra. Amy goes with the flow. She is pleasant with everyone. Debra has a strong personality. She does tolerate crap especially from the narcissistic Marie. Being hated by a narcissist is a compliment.
It's pathetic is what it is i would not stand having a brother like him like be your own man and stop trying to be so dam childish and Ray is just as pathetic trying to get his wife involved sad I know its a tv show but that does happen
While it was ridiculous for Ray to not like it that Marie likes Amy more than Debra, it was hypocritical for his mother to be concerned about who’s a good girl and who isn’t before getting married as it was later revealed in this episode that Marie wasn’t a good girl to begin with before she got married with Frank. That along with the fact the two HAD to get married after Marie got pregnant which also revealed that Robert was conceived illegitimately.
@@Tryp-j9d - SPOILERS for later seasons of a 25 year old show. Amy wasn't untouched either by the time the got married. Robert was the only man Amy ever had, but they didn't wait until they were married.
The point is that Ray is her favourite son, if he was with Amy and Robert with Debra than Marie would like Debra more :) Simple as that, she just doesn't want to share him :) Happens in real life a lot of times...
Your comment is one of the reasons why Robert should not always be defended, even if he did have legitimate reasons to criticize his brother or be upset about the attention Ray gets not just from the Barone family but also because of Ray’s public persona as a famous sports writer.
@@dixbowman3452 I believe the comment was referring to Robert doubting on his commitment to Amy as they had an on & off relationship before the two got married at the end of Season 7.
I'm watching The Middle and I'm think that Patricia (Debra) is not a good housewife in general 😅😅 She doesn't cook and though Debra doesn't work, she never keeps the house clean and expects Ray come from work to help clean. But episodes like this one bother me for her character because she says she doesn't care but in one Thanksgiving she was mad her own mom wasn't like Marie because Marie was tending to Debra's kids or helping out with dinner.
Debra doesn't work, you say. She's got 3 kids, 4 if you count Ray (and you shoujd cause hes a big baby). Her house doesn't look messy to me, but Marie has to criticise her housekeeping because she has to queen it over her. I can't believe you think a stay at home mom doesn't work. They work 24/7.
I love how Deb mocks Ray for how ridiculous he’s being in making every little thing competitive with his brother. It’s like Ray makes so damn sure Robert will never have it as good as him 🤦🏼♂️lol. He’s your brother Ray!😂🤷♂️
@@anthonyjamesvasquez I don’t know about that Marie might prefer Ray over Robert and Amy over Deborah, but that doesn’t mean that she outright hates Robert and Deborah. And as for Frank, I do recall that Marie actually confirmed that Frank is pretty good in bed so there might actually be a reason to keep him around.
Marie likes Amy more than Debra because Marie never had the same sick and creepy infatuation with Robert as she does with Ray, which has led to Debra being public enemy number one.
I agree with the 100 percent, it’s so weird and creepy, especially when she gets into bed with him. Lot of questions
Ummmmmm ding ding ding and it's gross.
😂😂😂😂😂
Frank even points out in one episode that Debra marrying Ray, and Marie being unable to deal with it, has caused a constant tension in the family.
She also liked Amy more than Debra because she’s a nice person. Debra was a fall down drunk who got canned by a sweet boss because she couldn’t be told what to do….
Debra wanted a babysitter so she nags Ray to pay for it. when the kids obviously love the babysitter more she gets jealous and cans her.
She couldn’t cook,clean or raise the kids. She also not only got a DUI but should’ve gotten DV charges for the amount of times she beat her husband like the female OJ Simpson that she was
I love it when Debra goes off singing. 🤣
Yes. At the end, she calls him an idiot. 😂😂😂
Good for Debra for not caring!! If you want to be liked by someone as manipulative and passive-aggressive as Marie, you've set the bar pretty freaking low.
One of the few times I've actually agreed with Debra over Ray. Who cares what your manipulative, petty, mother in law who dislikes you no matter what you do thinks?
Of course Marie likes Amy more than Debra. Amy goes with the flow. She is pleasant with everyone.
Debra has a strong personality. She does tolerate crap especially from the narcissistic Marie.
Being hated by a narcissist is a compliment.
Though after she marries Robert, Amy and Marie start having disagreements, so even she has her limits.
@ Even though Amy is nice, she isn’t a doormat.
Pat, the nicest one on the show, confronted Marie’s behavior. Like Ray, I totally loved it.
Yes Raymond,😊 you do care!😂❤
2:06 Seeing that PlayStation 1 sitting on top the TV brings a tear to my eye. Golden days
The blue-eyed-boy getting upset 🤣😂🤣😂😂
Wow, she can sing pretty well.
Patricia Heaton is so good looking.
Some episodes she was down right gorgeous!
@@IronMan-tk8uc Yes she was!
Robert cant stop comparing himself to raymond 😂
It's pathetic is what it is i would not stand having a brother like him like be your own man and stop trying to be so dam childish and Ray is just as pathetic trying to get his wife involved sad I know its a tv show but that does happen
Raymond: amy's cooking. 😛at 3:43 LOL
Maybe because I grew up in a family dynamic where my own mother loved me the least, I always hated how Marie treated both Debra and Robert.
For Marie to like Amy more than she likes Debra, she would have to actually like Debra to begin with!
Um….NO!!!
While it was ridiculous for Ray to not like it that Marie likes Amy more than Debra, it was hypocritical for his mother to be concerned about who’s a good girl and who isn’t before getting married as it was later revealed in this episode that Marie wasn’t a good girl to begin with before she got married with Frank. That along with the fact the two HAD to get married after Marie got pregnant which also revealed that Robert was conceived illegitimately.
Marie hypocritical? NUUUUUUUU!!!!
Ray just could never let Robert have any Wins.
Marie likes Amy better because Debra wasn't untouched before she married Ray..
Now I have to go watch that episode.. 😅
Marie WASN’T untouched EITHER!!! See Robert’s REAL birthday episode!!!
@Tryp-j9d
Thank you.. I couldn't remember which episode that was.. I was just searching for it.. lol
I thought it was Good Girls..
@@Kimberliss42 you’re right. It is.
@@Tryp-j9d - SPOILERS for later seasons of a 25 year old show.
Amy wasn't untouched either by the time the got married. Robert was the only man Amy ever had, but they didn't wait until they were married.
Ray needs to be Marie’s favourite to the point that he can’t stand an extension of himself aka his wife not being her favourite.
Debra can sing yo
I love how Debra didn't care but Ray had to make it weird
4:34 😆😆😆😆
Ray is perfect Here
ok, see, i know you're joking but that's actually a pretty good song
The point is that Ray is her favourite son, if he was with Amy and Robert with Debra than Marie would like Debra more :) Simple as that, she just doesn't want to share him :) Happens in real life a lot of times...
Robert's my fave character but he was a jerk here. Enjoying bragging rights yet stringing Amy along for years never committing.
Your comment is one of the reasons why Robert should not always be defended, even if he did have legitimate reasons to criticize his brother or be upset about the attention Ray gets not just from the Barone family but also because of Ray’s public persona as a famous sports writer.
He married her what are you talking about?
@@dixbowman3452 I believe the comment was referring to Robert doubting on his commitment to Amy as they had an on & off relationship before the two got married at the end of Season 7.
@victora.hernandez8062 a normal thing for a guy like Robert. But he was a way better husband than Ray.
He also cheated on Amy with Stefania and contemplated cheating on her with his ex wife. Robert really isn't the good guy of the series
Brad Garrett Voicing Gusteau
Same for Bloat, Eeyore and Dim.
0:45 Raymond let the wiring pinch
Yet another reason why Deb is too good for Ray.
I'm watching The Middle and I'm think that Patricia (Debra) is not a good housewife in general 😅😅 She doesn't cook and though Debra doesn't work, she never keeps the house clean and expects Ray come from work to help clean. But episodes like this one bother me for her character because she says she doesn't care but in one Thanksgiving she was mad her own mom wasn't like Marie because Marie was tending to Debra's kids or helping out with dinner.
Debra doesn't work, you say. She's got 3 kids, 4 if you count Ray (and you shoujd cause hes a big baby). Her house doesn't look messy to me, but Marie has to criticise her housekeeping because she has to queen it over her.
I can't believe you think a stay at home mom doesn't work. They work 24/7.
I think you underestimate how hard it is to look after 3 young kids. Debra has had a job before but Ray got her fired
Also, it's shown multiple times that Ray doesn't even do anything at work. He just goofs off
I Love Debra 😊
We all like some people more than others...😅even in oure own families....😂 we just try to keep it to oureselfs...most of the time❤😂.
❤👏👏👏
Way to go, Ray!
This is from the early episodes back when Nice Debra was there...before Darth Debra showed up.
I love how Deb mocks Ray for how ridiculous he’s being in making every little thing competitive with his brother.
It’s like Ray makes so damn sure Robert will never have it as good as him 🤦🏼♂️lol. He’s your brother Ray!😂🤷♂️
yeah debra is a wonderful wife blah blah blah
I’m pretty sure that in Marie’s perfect world Ray would be married to Amy and Robert would be married to Deborah.
In Marie's perfect world, Robert and Debra wouldn't exist. Frank either.
THIS is turning into a Smothers Brothers act!!!
@@anthonyjamesvasquez I don’t know about that Marie might prefer Ray over Robert and Amy over Deborah, but that doesn’t mean that she outright hates Robert and Deborah. And as for Frank, I do recall that Marie actually confirmed that Frank is pretty good in bed so there might actually be a reason to keep him around.
In Marie's perfect world, Ray wouldn't be married to ANYONE. The only woman he would need is Mommy and he would live at home forever.