After watching this I can only wish Camille would record her classes and make them public like Jordan Peterson. That type of richness in knowledge is priceless. Thx for the upload.
How can we get her to do this? If there is a student of hers watching this, or anyone connected to her, please let her know we many people would love to see her lectures on youtube.
I agree, but Camille has always been against the recording of her teaching her classes. She would not allow them to be filmed in the 90s despite being asked many times. If only she would change her mind...
Thank You for posting this lecture. Camille's theory about why there are great male artists and also great male destroyers, I think I understand. I wonder though, if there are fewer great women artists, because we express our creativity in other ways. Cooking, sewing, decorating, gardening, fashion for ourselves and our children, (until they express their own creativity,) etc. Many members of our society, U.S.A. seem to disparage these creative outlets that are traditionally feminine. They also seem to think these crafts and talents can be replaced by hired outsiders and cheap mass produced objects.
I was thinking the same. She seems to speak with a sense of panic in her voice like someone is timing her to speak a volume of information in the span of a single minute! It's too rushed a manner to appreciate the trove of information she presents.
Rather than going straight into the idea that Medusa could represent the fear men have towards 'female organs', how about the fear of the presence of a beautiful woman, a presence that paralyses a man, makes him nervous. The organs seem to be too far in my opinion, what do you think?
Wow. What a wonderfull presentation Camille. I want to tell you of a wonderfull new exhibition on Oscar Wilde here at Trinity college Dublin, (which is also home to the Book Of Kells) It can be viewed on line also if your not visiting these parts in the forseeable future.
Few animals starve to death and the idea that the stone age man starved - the most intelligent omnivore ever to set foot on earth (!) - is totally ridiculous. They spent 3 - 4 hours per day, gathering food, experts believe. They had come across both dried meat and fish, berries etc. in nature for millions of years, and they knew perfectly well how to preserve food. They gathered a greater variation of foods, than any other specie, and though I have great respect for Paglias work this part of it is based om myths. The myth has been created in order to conceal the fact that humans has become a domesticated specie, with a significantly higher reproduction rate than evolution once gave us. The human brain is shrinking, just like the brains of domesticated animals are, something which is unique in nature. It contradicts more than 100 million years of previous evolution, and it's a tell tail sign of an ongoing domestication process.
Thank you so much! I´m from Argentina, I´m a crossdresser prostitute and I love Camille! Here in Argentina we have a very strong feminist movement, one of these groups are AMMAR (Argentine Prostitutes' Association) "the group has been fighting to change the way society looks upon prostitution and make sex workers aware of their rights." But also we have these bourgeois feminism (most of them from the high-class city, Palermo, Buenos Aires) saying that almost every-man is an abuser or a pig...and they are against prostitution and porn. Some radical left-wing feminists thinks the same on that issue. It´s so great listening to Camille. Drag Queen Feminism! love it!
Ms. Paglia neglects the Annunciation, Magnificat and Nativity. The Holy Family even travels to Egypt! Luther himself venerated Mary, based on these scriptural elements. (Yes, he criticised prayers to saints.) This is not to say the cult of Mary is not a recapitulation of paganism. But it certainly has biblical echoes. I would suggest that the denigration of Mary in Protestantism is more culturally than biblically based, however much they insist it is all about scripture. The Venus of Willendorf was a distant memory to northern europeans. Southern and eastern xtianity had a continuous contact with the Mediterranean.
For sure Christians should not neglect the preceding mythologies. Myths contain truth albeit not fully. Christians can see the life of Christ as the fulfilment of prophecy and the full revelation of God and look back into mythology to see the clues revealed to humanity throughout the ages.
She certainly emphasised that ancient quasi pagan story with Maria and how it somehow is “censored out” in the bible. There is a great presence of Maria in Europe not only in churches, where she is more often in the background. But if you go hiking in the German, Austrian, and Italian Alps, you find Maria and the child everywhere. It’s almost that she is even more important than imagery of Jesus on the cross etc. So many places where you find her image or sculpture as giving solace, for example in little chapels or shrines built for someone’s memory. It’s the idea that the Mother of God is just as or even more important than God. People pray to her probably much more than church liturgy suggests. The German word is Marienverehrung (reverence / worship of Maria). Presumably the Catholic Church has often suppressed that, and definitely the Protestant movement has continued it. But they were not very successful for sure. If there is any most striking image of a benevolent God, it is Maria with the child.
she gave this talk at my school, the school she teaches at, a year ago and the students pulled the fire alarm to stop her talk because she’s “transphobic.”
I prefer her arts commentary to her better-known commentary on current events, and this may be the best example of the former presently on RUclips. If only there were more like her -- not only as learned but as entertaining. Vive l'enthousiasme! Vers le bas avec des conformistes terne!
The feet might be missing because you can't move with pregnant women. Moving long distances trough rough terrain is hard with stone age technology, very hard with children and old people an nearly impossible with pregnant women. If you have pregnant women, find shelter and stay put for the last months.
I was a bit precocious and was drawn into feminism in my early teens in the 90s and was colored by my reading of ancient history, mythology, literature. Having a patchwork of influences, I was really conflucted about some things. I'd respected the power of female sexuality but eventually drawn to the concept of Woman as the victim after mean old Man subjugated Woman and Earth (thanks to some stuff influenced by Marija Gimbutas), as was increasingly popular. I eventually struggled with human sexuality in general--was women's allure mostly shaped as a subjugated plaything? Were modern men universal oppressors? A decade later, I started making peace with our individual roles as animals and how we carry these things on even as civilized humans. Admittedly, I've also tossed the label of feminist. No matter how you defend it, I will not take it back up, it's lost its appeal and it's my choice. While I don't agree with everything Paglia says--naturally--I wish I'd noticed her in the 90s. Perhaps with somone like her to admire, my life might have been just a little different. I've never attended university, but I'm a curious person and I'm grateful for lectures like these being accessible. I hope that through RUclips, more interesting educators enrich the lives of housekeeper-artists like me, and others. The bite-sized "edutainment" stuff here just isn't enough for some of us.
Would LOVE to know what were the other lectures / events set up to distract students away from this talk. Would LOVE to watch them as a comparison and see how many people from the general public even wanted to watch them. My guess is they weren't posted because there was nothing to look at.
Someone should do a Thug Life compilation for Paglia, just for the purpose of making something with more accessibility than one of these very long videos and gaining her even more fans. She is one of the great thinkers of our time.
Whoever introduced her needs to take a class in "How To Dress Like a Fucking Adult." Why isn't he embarrassed to look like that under the circumstances.
Could you post the full Q&A as a single video, instead of as separate clips? This is just the introduction and lecture. It's really hard to watch the clips one by one. Thanks.
I think the Assyrian/Mesopotamia creatures are ET hybrids hence they are usually much bigger, stronger and so forth, they were far more advanced than humans, humans in a way worshipped them for this reason as they brought new information and technology but also enslavement.
The Mary worship in Roman Catholic church is the organized aspect of religion of Christianity still had the evil of Egypt that Jehovah God had told the Jews to leave Egypt.
I think those who are impressed by Paglia are Americans who don’t live in NYC 😝 and/or haven’t studied art or the social sciences at the college or above level.
I’m white and I wonder what they would say about my golden bust? It sure doesn’t resemble these Italian busts. I would look much like the tut bust. As would many in my family resemble the Egypt busts.
Again, you cannot make sense of things you have only partial knowledge of. Just because Mary appears in a relatively smaller number of verses does not automatically limit or define her importance. Surely you can understand this concept. I'm afraid this lecture is turning into a perfect example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. A sprinkling knowledge of this, a superficial knowledge of that.... you are better than this.
She's correct. In France and Belgium for example the Virgin Mary is traditionally worshiped more than the figure of Jesus by the common people, with chapels and pilgrimage to Lourdes, but church scholars will point out this is an aberration that only developed in recent centuries, and consider it more as folklore.
i like camille even if she's a little crazy. i feel like she shouldn't have opened so aggressively, talking about how she has a much more profound range of vision. i don't mind her egotism, but it does allow people to dismiss her very easily.
but her art lectures are very interesting. especially the detail about the red ochre burials. those are apparently from a strange stone age civilization no one knows anything about really en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Paint_People
Concentrate on the message and not the messenger: This isn't a lecture about Camille, this is about something much greater and she, personality aside, is the one speaking on it.
"Luck be a Lady Tonight," means, "Luck - be polite, have good manners, be good to me!" Not "Be a female!!" One hour through video and it just gets worse and worse.
After watching this I can only wish Camille would record her classes and make them public like Jordan Peterson. That type of richness in knowledge is priceless. Thx for the upload.
How can we get her to do this? If there is a student of hers watching this, or anyone connected to her, please let her know we many people would love to see her lectures on youtube.
I agree, but Camille has always been against the recording of her teaching her classes. She would not allow them to be filmed in the 90s despite being asked many times. If only she would change her mind...
why is that though?
Especially the ones that aren't heavy on the visuals
Camille Paglia will go down in history as one of the great intellectual giants of our time!
Wow, I feel so privledged to have the full unedited lecture from such a great mind.I wish the arts were full of more Paglias
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank You for posting this lecture. Camille's theory about why there are great male artists and also great male destroyers, I think I understand. I wonder though, if there are fewer great women artists, because we express our creativity in other ways. Cooking, sewing, decorating, gardening, fashion for ourselves and our children, (until they express their own creativity,) etc. Many members of our society, U.S.A. seem to disparage these creative outlets that are traditionally feminine. They also seem to think these crafts and talents can be replaced by hired outsiders and cheap mass produced objects.
I learned more history from these 2 hours than in 12 years of school.
I love seeing Camille in this type of lecture setting! Thank you for uploading!
Our pleasure!
I was thinking the same. She seems to speak with a sense of panic in her voice like someone is timing her to speak a volume of information in the span of a single minute! It's too rushed a manner to appreciate the trove of information she presents.
Rather than going straight into the idea that Medusa could represent the fear men have towards 'female organs', how about the fear of the presence of a beautiful woman, a presence that paralyses a man, makes him nervous. The organs seem to be too far in my opinion, what do you think?
Camille Paglia is a force of nature.
Love this woman, clarity to the mind and soul.
Wow. What a wonderfull presentation Camille. I want to tell you of a wonderfull new exhibition on Oscar Wilde here at Trinity college Dublin, (which is also home to the Book Of Kells) It can be viewed on line also if your not visiting these parts in the forseeable future.
Hi Annette, the best way to reach Camille is at her professional email, which can be found online. All best.
THANK YOU for uploading!!! so privileged to live in the same time with this genius!!!
Thanks! I want to go back to college just to take her classes.
wow this is a gem of a talk
Few animals starve to death and the idea that the stone age man starved - the most intelligent omnivore ever to set foot on earth (!) - is totally ridiculous. They spent 3 - 4 hours per day, gathering food, experts believe. They had come across both dried meat and fish, berries etc. in nature for millions of years, and they knew perfectly well how to preserve food. They gathered a greater variation of foods, than any other specie, and though I have great respect for Paglias work this part of it is based om myths.
The myth has been created in order to conceal the fact that humans has become a domesticated specie, with a significantly higher reproduction rate than evolution once gave us. The human brain is shrinking, just like the brains of domesticated animals are, something which is unique in nature. It contradicts more than 100 million years of previous evolution, and it's a tell tail sign of an ongoing domestication process.
Props to the Mill Series. Excellent talks.
I would love to see a debate between Camille and Lindsay Ellis AKA The Nostalgia Chick... to her(Ellis) everything is “‘mysoginy”....
Simply not true
Thank you so much! I´m from Argentina, I´m a crossdresser prostitute and I love Camille! Here in Argentina we have a very strong feminist movement, one of these groups are AMMAR (Argentine Prostitutes' Association) "the group has been fighting to change the way society looks upon prostitution and make sex workers aware of their rights." But also we have these bourgeois feminism (most of them from the high-class city, Palermo, Buenos Aires) saying that almost every-man is an abuser or a pig...and they are against prostitution and porn. Some radical left-wing feminists thinks the same on that issue. It´s so great listening to Camille. Drag Queen Feminism! love it!
Our pleasure. Listening to Camille is eye-opening for many, I think.
I’m sure Camille would love hearing this!
soy de argentina tambien y la adoro a pagllia, te recomiendo a jordan peterson, en nuestro pais esta jodida la cosa con el neomarxismo feminista
Those feminists of Palermo are the worst.
Ms. Paglia neglects the Annunciation, Magnificat and Nativity. The Holy Family even travels to Egypt!
Luther himself venerated Mary, based on these scriptural elements. (Yes, he criticised prayers to saints.)
This is not to say the cult of Mary is not a recapitulation of paganism. But it certainly has biblical echoes.
I would suggest that the denigration of Mary in Protestantism is more culturally than biblically based, however much they insist it is all about scripture. The Venus of Willendorf was a distant memory to northern europeans. Southern and eastern xtianity had a continuous contact with the Mediterranean.
For sure Christians should not neglect the preceding mythologies. Myths contain truth albeit not fully. Christians can see the life of Christ as the fulfilment of prophecy and the full revelation of God and look back into mythology to see the clues revealed to humanity throughout the ages.
She certainly emphasised that ancient quasi pagan story with Maria and how it somehow is “censored out” in the bible. There is a great presence of Maria in Europe not only in churches, where she is more often in the background. But if you go hiking in the German, Austrian, and Italian Alps, you find Maria and the child everywhere. It’s almost that she is even more important than imagery of Jesus on the cross etc. So many places where you find her image or sculpture as giving solace, for example in little chapels or shrines built for someone’s memory. It’s the idea that the Mother of God is just as or even more important than God. People pray to her probably much more than church liturgy suggests. The German word is Marienverehrung (reverence / worship of Maria). Presumably the Catholic Church has often suppressed that, and definitely the Protestant movement has continued it. But they were not very successful for sure. If there is any most striking image of a benevolent God, it is Maria with the child.
Regarding paleo Indian studies, Camille Paglia should talk to Graham Hancock.
she gave this talk at my school, the school she teaches at, a year ago and the students pulled the fire alarm to stop her talk because she’s “transphobic.”
They do that because they are weak and cannot argue with someone who has actually done the work. They bring social media memes to an archeology fight.
I understand how someone can not agree with Camille's politics. But not her reading of antiquity and art history
A truly magnificent person. That lecture hall should have been bursting at the seems to honor such an intellect.
I prefer her arts commentary to her better-known commentary on current events, and this may be the best example of the former presently on RUclips. If only there were more like her -- not only as learned but as entertaining. Vive l'enthousiasme!
Vers le bas avec des conformistes terne!
The feet might be missing because you can't move with pregnant women.
Moving long distances trough rough terrain is hard with stone age technology, very hard with children and old people an nearly impossible with pregnant women.
If you have pregnant women, find shelter and stay put for the last months.
I was a bit precocious and was drawn into feminism in my early teens in the 90s and was colored by my reading of ancient history, mythology, literature. Having a patchwork of influences, I was really conflucted about some things. I'd respected the power of female sexuality but eventually drawn to the concept of Woman as the victim after mean old Man subjugated Woman and Earth (thanks to some stuff influenced by Marija Gimbutas), as was increasingly popular. I eventually struggled with human sexuality in general--was women's allure mostly shaped as a subjugated plaything? Were modern men universal oppressors? A decade later, I started making peace with our individual roles as animals and how we carry these things on even as civilized humans. Admittedly, I've also tossed the label of feminist. No matter how you defend it, I will not take it back up, it's lost its appeal and it's my choice. While I don't agree with everything Paglia says--naturally--I wish I'd noticed her in the 90s. Perhaps with somone like her to admire, my life might have been just a little different. I've never attended university, but I'm a curious person and I'm grateful for lectures like these being accessible. I hope that through RUclips, more interesting educators enrich the lives of housekeeper-artists like me, and others. The bite-sized "edutainment" stuff here just isn't enough for some of us.
Would LOVE to know what were the other lectures / events set up to distract students away from this talk.
Would LOVE to watch them as a comparison and see how many people from the general public even wanted to watch them.
My guess is they weren't posted because there was nothing to look at.
Camille is genius.
The temple of Queen Hapsetshut exists to this day in the Valley of the Kings.
Her description of South America makes me want to travel lol
Someone should do a Thug Life compilation for Paglia, just for the purpose of making something with more accessibility than one of these very long videos and gaining her even more fans. She is one of the great thinkers of our time.
MinamuTV give me the freedom to risk rape
Whoever introduced her needs to take a class in "How To Dress Like a Fucking Adult." Why isn't he embarrassed to look like that under the circumstances.
Awesomeness
i like her theories!
The western Feminist Ideas are creeping into our eastern culture.
A great art historian!
1:12:28 Gotta love the Herms.
Could you post the full Q&A as a single video, instead of as separate clips? This is just the introduction and lecture. It's really hard to watch the clips one by one. Thanks.
Good idea. We'll do that in the next week. Stay tuned!
This lady needs to listened by everyone
The figure of the woman handling snakes with the lion on her head is the Goddess Hekate.
i love her so much
I think the Assyrian/Mesopotamia creatures are ET hybrids hence they are usually much bigger, stronger and so forth, they were far more advanced than humans, humans in a way worshipped them for this reason as they brought new information and technology but also enslavement.
The Mary worship in Roman Catholic church is the organized aspect of religion of Christianity still had the evil of Egypt that Jehovah God had told the Jews to leave Egypt.
I think those who are impressed by Paglia are Americans who don’t live in NYC 😝 and/or haven’t studied art or the social sciences at the college or above level.
Maybe that magic symbol the woman is holding is instead food.
Medusa:Beheading of St. John the Baptist?
31:24 - Uhhhh, is he wearing a sundial watch?
31:48 - Another watch?
I’m white and I wonder what they would say about my golden bust? It sure doesn’t resemble these Italian busts. I would look much like the tut bust. As would many in my family resemble the Egypt busts.
Wow. very interesting. Loved it. Learned a lot. I just wish that person that kept coughing would have excused her/his self.
Somebody get this woman a speaking coach
mkey?
Fabulous!!!!
30:55 Sargon!
That cougher should have been thrown out. How inconsiderate of of that person to have stayed there.
BBW's way back in the day
Again, you cannot make sense of things you have only partial knowledge of. Just because Mary appears in a relatively smaller number of verses does not automatically limit or define her importance. Surely you can understand this concept.
I'm afraid this lecture is turning into a perfect example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. A sprinkling knowledge of this, a superficial knowledge of that....
you are better than this.
She's correct. In France and Belgium for example the Virgin Mary is traditionally worshiped more than the figure of Jesus by the common people, with chapels and pilgrimage to Lourdes, but church scholars will point out this is an aberration that only developed in recent centuries, and consider it more as folklore.
i like camille even if she's a little crazy. i feel like she shouldn't have opened so aggressively, talking about how she has a much more profound range of vision. i don't mind her egotism, but it does allow people to dismiss her very easily.
but her art lectures are very interesting. especially the detail about the red ochre burials. those are apparently from a strange stone age civilization no one knows anything about really en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Paint_People
Interesting, and glad you enjoyed it.
I love Camille's combination of brute honesty and confidence. It doesn't read as egotism to me at all.
yeah she KNOWS she has read WAY MORE than many of the people she is criticizing.
Concentrate on the message and not the messenger: This isn't a lecture about Camille, this is about something much greater and she, personality aside, is the one speaking on it.
That person coughing in the back is kinda annoying.. get out if it's that bad. Had to say that.
"Luck be a Lady Tonight," means, "Luck - be polite, have good manners, be good to me!" Not "Be a female!!" One hour through video and it just gets worse and worse.
kinky!