The reason why Neo lives is thanks to Cypher's advice to run, Morpheus never told him: "If you see an agent, run". For that reason we see Neo run away when he is in the matrix, maybe that's the mistake the other "ones" did, not to run
Cypher was a Judas. Period. He represented the weaknesses of humanity: jealousy, greed, delusion, lack of belief and faith, ignorance, betrayal and cowardice.
@@fadsa342 It’s not “development” but regression or devolution. Cypher regressed and went back to The Matrix fully aware of his choice to live in a delusion. He was right from a rational physical perspective, but wrong as a human being with morality and virtue within.
Make a deal to have the perfect life, where you die happy or stay in the real world? If billions do it and don't know they are in the matrix, is reality the best choice really?
Ive heard it, i got tricked by it until I understood it, its not there yet, but i know its coming, I got depressed for months when i found out about it, but they cant make what I make, not just yet anyway!
The main advantage of choice is the ability to improve your position in life. Cypher said, " You call this free? All i ever do is what he tells me." Clearly Cypher was not happy with his position and saw the opportunity to improve his position and he took it.
His entire existence has been stolen from him under the guise that there was a brighter future to be had. Would you call living in Zion and operating the Nebuchadnezzar a worthwhile existence? It sounds like total hell and he would have never signed up for it if you knew the truth
I believe Cypher was still on the fence about betraying the crew. However, he enjoyed that steak. Which probably messed with his code. Making his doubts and guilts dissappear.
Igen. Valójában elmondja az Építész, hogy tökéletes volt a Mátrix első működésében, de az emberek szétcseszték. Aztán meg az van, hogy a Mátrixban az emberek leélhetnek tökéletesen egy életet a biológiai testük haláláig nyugodtan, de mondjuk egy másik ember meg kinyírja őket esetleg. Semmit mást nem tesznek a gépek, mint élhető környezetet biztosítanak plusz táplálást a testnek. Illetve az emberek olyan világban élnek a Mátrixban, amit akartak, mivel az első kiadását amiben nem volt mondjuk fájdalom, betegség, bűnözés - ahogy az építész mondja - az ember utasította el. Nagyon nem úgy látszik, hogy a gép itt a valódi probléma.
@@SzaboB33 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
Is it just me or is it the older I get the more sense the villains seem to make, and the reality of a hero is relegated to act of simply opening a door for an old lady because beyond that, there no heroes....unless you count the game stop pump and dump incident which almost restored faith in humanity
Cypher was a hypocrite. He condemned Morpheus for "killing" other "ones" and at the same time he murdered members of his own crew. Whether his ideas were right or wrong is irrelevant. The source of those ideas is from a hypocrite and a murderer who only cared about his own skin.
Morpheous and the crew were terrorists to him. He has seen morpheous kill many times. Both of them are the same. One is protecting one side of the coin.
The question Cypher answers is.. Would you rather live in the real world as a pesent Or live in an illusion you believe is real as a king.. The reality is its a question many ppl answer ever day..as our lives migrate more online and in video games and even in other mediums we dissappear into Many ppl are disengaging from "real" life..to a world they prefer ,that they enjoy and are respected in..going through the motions at work but not really there. The reality is to reach that position of accalade and accomplishment..takes work..dedication...it takes fighting a war with yourself..and maybe machines And the crazy part is you may never reach the top..because you're not the ONE.. What tipped Cypher over the edge was meeting neo..and seeing him get everything..with not as much effort and coming in so late.. That reality of life..with all the talk of equality...life is not equal..because ppl are not equal....there can be no equality..because ppl are not the same Ppl are born being just talented...the one isnt made..hes born.... But where Cyper failed..is he didnt embrace the grind of cultivating what he has ..he fell into dispair (which to be fair is easy) and saw no hope and took the only way he saw to elevate himself..even if its in an illusion. . .(the parable in the bible about talents come to mind) Whatever talent you have it's incumbent on you to do what you can with what you have..don't watch ppl around you because we all weren't given the same amount of talent. Perception is reality.
@@ghostsimppy1190 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
That tells you how fucked up human civilization is and these are the reasons I don't believe in religious teachings. Human beings are terrible and if I was God I would definitely not create us. Just like agent Smith said we are exactly like a virus, multiple and consume. This planet or universe does not need us to survive so what's the purpose of human beings, to procreate and conquer?
Dude really enjoy you explaining this. I was in my youth when The Matrix came out in like 99 or whatever, I always thought it was a crazy idea/story and now as an older man 39 the underlying stories that were in the movie that I never noticed really makes my brain explode in a good way! Appreciate you fam and your best days are to come!
Cypher just chose the better side of the matrix. No one ever got out. Neo had power over the machines in "the real world" because it's part of the matrix too.
Cypher messed up by killing his teammates, thus robbing them of the very "choice" his reasoning was based upon, and, also attempting to destroy Zion and killing all those innocent lives of real unplugged humans, just for his own selfish life to live inside the matrix again. No matter how "right" he was he could have chosen to just end his own life inside or outside the matrix instead of attempting to wipe out humankind. That's what makes him evil and dead wrong.
Didn't Morpheus also fail to mention the Sacrifice Neo and Trinity would have to make, to end the war? Though from his point of view all these sacrifices were still for the greater good of the red team. What Cypher did was messed up too for sure, agreeing to be on the red team then turning his back on them. But maybe they were also neglecting everything the body needs, neglecting Cypher's needs? No one brings him food, no love. Not feeling valued, he just does what he's told now. Is that what he sign up for? Just as they brushed off Mouse when making this point, as he called them hypocrites. This led Cypher to turn on his team, not valuing them or their mission any longer. Same with Ephialtes in 300, could they not have given him an honorary position or something of the sort, keep him proud of his homeland? I'm sure he could have taken a few down. Instead, we saw what Leonidas's mistake in leadership caused in the long run. With the Persians making an offer Ephialtes couldn't refuse, in exchange for his intel. "The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members” - Gandhi. Weren't Neo and Trinity able to live Freely within the matrix at the end of Resurrections, not be bound by IO Or the matrix, have steak, even paint the sky rainbows if they choose?
@@MysTicBiGz Nothing is real, there's no way out of the matrix. Even if you think that you're out, you're just being allowed to believe that you're out.
1:40 Cypher ate the steak. Like the woman ate the cake. Like Neo ate the cookie. Something changed in him. That's why he passed the test. I wonder if that was the same Merovingian restaurant the woman got the cake at, now that I think of it?
Cypher was plainly sick&tired of his situation aboard the Nebuchadnezzar, I'm theorizing. Eating goop vs eating prime rib??? It'd be tempting to eat the dream-prime-rib. Plus, Trinity had spurned him, so unrequited love.....
Cypher was a sellout, but you have to agree that the irony of the whole movie in a breakdown video on RUclips called: "Film Theory: Neo ISN'T The One in The Matrix Trilogy" This shows exactly who was supposed to destroy the Matrix, and another great video from same channel called: "Film Theory: The Matrix has NO ESCAPE" Mind blowing stuff
You have to find out his motivation. Not all loyalty is fruitful e.g. loyalty to criminal enterprises and organisations is not considered "intelligent".
I mean, it's a very good point: If you found out life was a simulation, would you really want to know the reasons why? At all cost? If you could cope or comprehend the reason/s, would you really want to fight it? Or is ignorance really bliss after all? To where, it's really just better to go with the flow, or have fun with it the best you could? What if you found out the real world was depressing, cold and lonely? And the food sucked? What if you found out you were just a lonely being that created all of this for company? Etc. Breaking the system may seem like the logical choice, but it also might not be...and that's assuming such thing was even possible at all. The same goes for multiverses. Going to another universe (if possible) may not be wise, or might even be suicide. We don't know the rules there. Another universe might be of higher dimensions that we couldn't comprehend--might go mad in, or maybe our heads might explode...who knows? Universes might be anywhere from similar to radically different. Chaotic even, like Event Horizon depicts, when a ship crosses over to another realm where the crew commits unspeakable atrocities to one another. The director had so many disturbing things to show us about that realm, but the production company found them too disturbing, graphic and grotesque and cut them. The footage is now lost.
“I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious, Ignorance is bliss”.
"I don't want to remember nothing." But if you wipe someone's memories, then you kill that person. Cypher was asking to be killed with only his body left alive.
I've started to believe that "He's gonna pop" simply means that he's going to puke. An colloquialism suggesting that it's not just 1999 in the real world
I can explain Cyphers motivation with a true story that happened to me. So when explaining how I see the world to a friend and how we are indeed trapped in a Very similar matrix as the movie at first my friend was very open to learning about it. As time went on however my friend expressed anger towards me for telling them of this because as they tried to go on with their life after they couldn’t attain happiness because they knew deep down all the falsities they were trying to still participate in were all lies. Much like Cypher they even symbolically tried to reinsert themselves back into the matrix but once you learn the truth it’s impossible to go back and to a certain extent this person tried to pull me back into the matrix with them. To me this is what the Wahowskis were trying to convey with Cypher. After Cypher learned the truth of the matrix the joy he attained in the matrix was gone and he lived the harsher truth of the Real World. After a while he wanted to go back to that Joy he thought he had in the matrix and was willing to do anything to attain it, including turning on Morpheus and trying to kill Neo.
When Neo speaks with the Architect, who tells Neo that he is "the remainder of an unfinished equation." It would have been great to add a sentence along the lines of, "simply a remainder of one." It would tie in great with the first movie's prophesy that kept calling him "the One".
I love these updated videos!!! I like also Cypher, because all his actions are really free-minded. I was thinking about that there's a certain bonding between Cypher and the Merovingian. What the Merovingian tries to tell the crew is that everything they're doing is because they don't have the full picture of what's happening. Cypher, in the other hand, understands that there's another layer of control in Zion, and that all the fight is useless. He's the most free of all the crew. Many times Smith calls the group as a group of terrorists... What if he's right?
25 years later we are here debating if Cypher was right, it’s the same root of debating if the humans are right on prosecuting mutants on x-men. This generation decided that individual comfort is way more important than the collective freedom. Cypher was a traitor, oracle prophesying it or not. He decided that his individual comfort in the ignorance of the Matrix was better than fighting for the harsh truth of freedom.
It just seemed like Cypher was always on the fence about joining that revolution and living on a cold, sterile spaceship and eating goop for so many years, he snapped. Also something nobody hardly talk about: Maybe he found out the Truth about being reinserted back in the Matrix? Morpheous told Neo, like he told so many others "Red or Blue Pill, either way there's no turning back" and I'll assume after that meeting with Agent Smith he was told he can in fact be re-inserted back in the Matrix. Thus, why he said "he lied to us, he tricked us. If you would have told us the truth......." part of the monologe. That, as well as Morpheous being wrong about other people who he thought was "The one" Kinda changes his character and makes him.seem manipulative rather then a potential disciple
but for all we know, maybe it's not possible for someone to be re-inserted into the matrix, we're just taking agent smith's word for it in the movie I think agent smith speaks of the early matrix being a paradise, and humans just couldn't believe it, maybe a cypher who already has had the mirage of the matrix broken already in his mind would have a hard time believing it agent smith has no problem getting rid of humans against the matrix, as he wants cypher to do the things he does (to Apoc and Switch) Agent Smith states his distaste towards humanity, as he states we are a virus, a cancer
Cypher just didn’t like the reality, he found himself missing his old life, and came to realize he liked his old life better, so he decided to go back in the Matrix by siding with the machines in exchange for a few incentives once he was put back in the Matrix. Life in the Matrix had qualities that life outside of it didn’t have. It’s not about being right it’s about being happy, he wasn’t happy outside the matrix.
Actually, if I was told a vague thing by Morpheus, that there was a possibility that there was something else other than the world I would accept just to see it, if I didn't know what it actually meant. Would I have regretted it, maybe. But the fact that the world was a total lie would give me a sense of righteousness to stay and fight in the real world
Cypher was probably right, there is nothing left to fight in the "real world", which is probably fake too and just another level of the matrix simulation, maybe humans are no more than just brains in a jar connected to a super computer inside a massive scientific research compound built by the machines, somewhere on Earth, so he just picked the better option for his life.
You are saying that from your current state of being though. If finding out that fact just caused you suffering for a long period of time you would start to not care about truth any more and just about better states of being. You have to feel bad for a really long time before you accept that feeling good is an end in itself and facts or ideas about a situation often don't really matter in the long run. I do think that guilt is a big factor and something you can't let go of, but deciding to liv a lie because 99% of the time it feels better is a no-brainer.
"This is the real world, and the real world isn't about heroes and miracles." Cypher's version of the real world is Satan's kingdom. A place without heroes and miracles is hell.
I don't know how you arrived at this lol. Cypher was mad at Morpheus and felt he'd been deceived. He didn't think always running for your life from agents in the so called "real world" was an ideal life. He, just like me, would have preferred the illusion and ignorance of staying in the matrix. From the early days that I watched the film, I understood this about the character and always thought then and now that he's 100percent correct.
Actually he was right basically staying in the matrix is the only way to really live whereas it’s useless to fight the robots in a system where they control them anyways
The Matrix movies always have a cynical character , that backs up the "enlightened" character. In the 1st movie, he pushed the momentum of the film over to Neo completely, because the viewer thought that Neo was gonna drop the ball. That scene where Cypher got zapped, probably kept alot of people in their seats at the movies😊
The deleted scenes would have fitted in the movie, by inserting them later in the film for example by Cipher having returning nightmares about the dying ones, making his decisions more understandable? And if the Agents betray Cipher after reinserting him back into the Matrix, just because of cynicals are dangerous to any system, and also because of the Agents nature, he can become an even more valueable ally, with a vengeance!
So Cypher’s plan was to hand Morpheus over to Smith, get back to the ship, make sure the others don’t make it back, and wait for the Sentinels to pick him up, so they could erase his memory and re-insert him into the Matrix with huge power plant?
What is the GOAL of every Human? Literally the point of living? To be as HAPPY as possible, as long as possible! Cypher has chosen Happiness over a lifelong pointless struggle, i can understand him!
i always found Cypher underrated. i mean i would be disappointed and disgusted with how my life turned out all because i was stupid enough to take the red pill to live in a post apocalyptic world. while i might sympathize with Cypher he shouldn't have betrayed everyone. if i knew what would be waiting for me outside the matrix i would have taken the blue pill. sometimes ignorance is bliss
I think he could have handled an apocalyptic world. What he couldn't stomach is the only thing he wanted in Trinity wanting someone else... He gave up far more than neo and had been dedicated to the cause for far longer. Who wouldn't be jealous and downright pissed off add all the lies just to be alone and have nothing to eat in a cold world with nothing green?
@@krystalkayne5242 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
Physics and Metaphysics belong together. There is so much dense information in art and writing, like "perfectly balanced, as all things should be". This is the universe playing human games. At the core, its one its all from the source. The code is within.
Only thing Cypher was mistaken about is not wanting to remember when plugged back into the Matrix. Best part would have being a famous rock star and known you are in the Matrix.
How many people in our world choose a comfortable lie over an uncomfortable truth? As the biblical Jesus said, the way is difficult(compressed) and few find it.
In the coming two decades, millions of people will begin to take the path of Cypher, choosing to live in a VR world, and interacting in a romantic way with lines of code and robots. It is a sad fact, but the state of modern society is driving people to that end. Millions already live a great part of their lives online, on social media and immersed in video games and corn.
Cypher was just a plot device meant to keep the story interesting, an alternative perspective. It's basic storytelling 101. You're getting caught up in his role.
The effect of the oracle is not something I would call control, though. I feel that the element of choice is always included in her aspects. All explanations to justify Cypher are understandable. But this would likely be true for any person committing heinous acts. Should we understand what is actually going on in any person we would always have a chance to understand their doing. That does not mean we should agree with it.
Cypher the hero we needed, not the one we deserved. I mean what is wrong with living in the matrix if we are born there. The Architech did say that they created a utopia for us but that it was our nature that broke the simulation. Some of us just dont want happiness if we can choose.
What Cypher believed was that, even the resistance was part of the Matrix. That they were all being played and that the future, whatever it was, was already written. By that logic, if Cypher felt o.k. with dropping his friends under the bus, so to speak, that this idea in his head, was already written by those who controlled the Matrix who were far, far, far, more powerful than him. So, hey, just give him the best meal he has ever eaten and then, do as you will. It's all been preordained anyway.
Nope, he just wanted a cushier virtual life back inside his pod of goo, and was willing to betray the very people that showed him he was living in a fake world and freed him
I really liked your video showing how the Oracle manipulates everyone. It really is revealing. If they bring Cyper back, it would probably be most appropriate to show him as a normal person not involved with the Matrix.
Either Neo saved humanity at the end of the original Matrix or Zion and the "world of the Real" was just another Matrix, i.e. there is only one Matrix movie :P
Cypher a whole sell out. The goal was bigger than Morpheus. If he didn’t like how Morpheus was moving, he could have created his own crew. He sold out the whole city for a steak dinner and the dream of being a famous actor 🤢
I get the message of the Matrix. But let's imagine if this was actually real. Why the hell would I want to be pulled out, if the real world is broken beyond repair: no sunlight, living in a giant sewage system, eating porridge and fighting against giant robotic squids that can rip me apart in an instant.
@@ScubaSteveM45 Will you now? Let's say we are in the matrix right now. Everything you did, ate, smelled, saw, felt, all the people you have met, befriended, loved...all felt real and continue to feel real. Oh, and you don't actually feel you are in a pod of goo while in the Matrix. You are gonna ditch that life so you can live as a basically a sewer rat? Mkay
Cypher was a coward Period. A coward will refuse to accept reality and seek the easy way out seek comfort even if IT'S NOT REAL That's the nature of denial.
I personally think this theory is hokey pokey nonsense. Cipher sacrificed his crew mates who were in his exact situation, without a hint of remorse. His character was morally flawed from the day he was bred. No amount of subtle nudging by the Oracle would result in the deletion of ethics and responsibility. He was a dick, plain and simple..... someone who put his own comfort and world view above all others. Cipher was right.......pshhh.... gimme a break.
Cypher wanted back into the illusion and took the shortest path... taking lives. This was his biggest mistake. All he had to do was get re-assigned and find another way; into the matrix.
I never understood why Cypher would want his memory to be erased when put back in the matrix with all the perks he's got. The best part would be knowing how bad the other side was. 🤷♂️
I love how we’re starting to consider different perspectives, and looking past the typical black-and-white, good guy versus bad guy mindset. Life is so nuanced.
The reason why Neo lives is thanks to Cypher's advice to run, Morpheus never told him: "If you see an agent, run". For that reason we see Neo run away when he is in the matrix, maybe that's the mistake the other "ones" did, not to run
Bro... I never thought of that. You're a genius.
When he stopped running is when he became the one though
@@YinYangSeperationhe ran to gain more understanding, not for the sake of
doesnt make sense because once he stopped running and fought he became the one
Neo needed to believe before he became the one.
Cypher was a Judas. Period. He represented the weaknesses of humanity: jealousy, greed, delusion, lack of belief and faith, ignorance, betrayal and cowardice.
Exactly
Is that the weakness of humanity or what's allowed humanity and certain groups of humans to develop as they have?
@@fadsa342 It’s not “development” but regression or devolution. Cypher regressed and went back to The Matrix fully aware of his choice to live in a delusion. He was right from a rational physical perspective, but wrong as a human being with morality and virtue within.
I wouldn't want to eat Russian prison mush either tho.......
Make a deal to have the perfect life, where you die happy or stay in the real world? If billions do it and don't know they are in the matrix, is reality the best choice really?
"Are you ready for a future where artificial intelligence are the ones creating our music?" LOL that time is happening right now!
For real the music at the end of this video is awful.
@@sole__doubt yap, and by using it, he feeds AI, that will inevitably challenge humanity sooner or later
Amazing Isn't It 🥰
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Ive heard it, i got tricked by it until I understood it, its not there yet, but i know its coming, I got depressed for months when i found out about it, but they cant make what I make, not just yet anyway!
The main advantage of choice is the ability to improve your position in life. Cypher said, " You call this free? All i ever do is what he tells me." Clearly Cypher was not happy with his position and saw the opportunity to improve his position and he took it.
His entire existence has been stolen from him under the guise that there was a brighter future to be had. Would you call living in Zion and operating the Nebuchadnezzar a worthwhile existence? It sounds like total hell and he would have never signed up for it if you knew the truth
@wayne3302264 Cypher's final position, being opened up and spilled out on the deck of the Nebuchadnezzar. Not much of an improvement;)
He was a dog. The Judas of the Matrix.
at the expence of everyone else.
But the bad guys will betray Cipher too! It's in their code!
I believe Cypher was still on the fence about betraying the crew. However, he enjoyed that steak. Which probably messed with his code. Making his doubts and guilts dissappear.
I see food as code insertion.
The cookies of the oracle, here the steak.
Everyone is an entity in a simulation.
@@hermask815 The dessert in M2 with the Merovingian explains this fully. Food is code insertion.
he is not betraying for nothing.
@@gagewilcox wow yes how did I overlook this or maybe I knew it subconsciously. Food for thought lol.
It did look like a damn tasty steak! 🥩🍷
Morpheus: The machines are harvesting our energy. They are parasites:
Cypher: No. It's a symbiosis.
Igen.
Valójában elmondja az Építész, hogy tökéletes volt a Mátrix első működésében, de az emberek szétcseszték.
Aztán meg az van, hogy a Mátrixban az emberek leélhetnek tökéletesen egy életet a biológiai testük haláláig nyugodtan, de mondjuk egy másik ember meg kinyírja őket esetleg.
Semmit mást nem tesznek a gépek, mint élhető környezetet biztosítanak plusz táplálást a testnek.
Illetve az emberek olyan világban élnek a Mátrixban, amit akartak, mivel az első kiadását amiben nem volt mondjuk fájdalom, betegség, bűnözés - ahogy az építész mondja - az ember utasította el.
Nagyon nem úgy látszik, hogy a gép itt a valódi probléma.
The rich harvest our energy now
Literally every cryptobro out there
@@SzaboB33 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
Is it just me or is it the older I get the more sense the villains seem to make, and the reality of a hero is relegated to act of simply opening a door for an old lady because beyond that, there no heroes....unless you count the game stop pump and dump incident which almost restored faith in humanity
Cypher was a hypocrite. He condemned Morpheus for "killing" other "ones" and at the same time he murdered members of his own crew. Whether his ideas were right or wrong is irrelevant. The source of those ideas is from a hypocrite and a murderer who only cared about his own skin.
HalleluYAH. Spot on.
He may have been tired of all the murdering. He wanted it to end with him
In Cypher's mind it was justice for the deaths of ones they were responsible for, and to put an end to something he felt was evil.
Morpheous and the crew were terrorists to him. He has seen morpheous kill many times. Both of them are the same. One is protecting one side of the coin.
Disagree
You must not have watched the video or seen the first movie to have that conclusion
The question Cypher answers is..
Would you rather live in the real world as a pesent
Or live in an illusion you believe is real as a king..
The reality is its a question many ppl answer ever day..as our lives migrate more online and in video games and even in other mediums we dissappear into
Many ppl are disengaging from "real" life..to a world they prefer ,that they enjoy and are respected in..going through the motions at work but not really there.
The reality is to reach that position of accalade and accomplishment..takes work..dedication...it takes fighting a war with yourself..and maybe machines
And the crazy part is you may never reach the top..because you're not the ONE..
What tipped Cypher over the edge was meeting neo..and seeing him get everything..with not as much effort and coming in so late..
That reality of life..with all the talk of equality...life is not equal..because ppl are not equal....there can be no equality..because ppl are not the same
Ppl are born being just talented...the one isnt made..hes born....
But where Cyper failed..is he didnt embrace the grind of cultivating what he has ..he fell into dispair (which to be fair is easy) and saw no hope and took the only way he saw to elevate himself..even if its in an illusion. .
.(the parable in the bible about talents come to mind)
Whatever talent you have it's incumbent on you to do what you can with what you have..don't watch ppl around you because we all weren't given the same amount of talent.
Perception is reality.
Cypher was just mad that Trinity chose Neo over himself.
this right here sums it up. jealous little man killed all humanity after the loss of his dream girl. .. sound familiar?
No, he was promised Trinity and you can see he knows they make him love her and that pissed him off
@@ghostsimppy1190 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
As a child you cheer for the hero, as an adult you relate to the villain.
More like: As a child, you cheer for the hero, as an adult, you realize that only villains win.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Cypher didnt win though.
That tells you how fucked up human civilization is and these are the reasons I don't believe in religious teachings. Human beings are terrible and if I was God I would definitely not create us. Just like agent Smith said we are exactly like a virus, multiple and consume. This planet or universe does not need us to survive so what's the purpose of human beings, to procreate and conquer?
@@drb996 and he wasn’t even a villain ,…… he a sellout
@@kennethford4919 Wasn't a villain? He killed 2 or 3 people on the ship remember?
Dude really enjoy you explaining this. I was in my youth when The Matrix came out in like 99 or whatever, I always thought it was a crazy idea/story and now as an older man 39 the underlying stories that were in the movie that I never noticed really makes my brain explode in a good way! Appreciate you fam and your best days are to come!
It’s great watching it time and again as we pickup on new things each time!
@@jayrose6312 facts!
Cypher just chose the better side of the matrix. No one ever got out. Neo had power over the machines in "the real world" because it's part of the matrix too.
Cowards are never right.
Cypher messed up by killing his teammates, thus robbing them of the very "choice" his reasoning was based upon, and, also attempting to destroy Zion and killing all those innocent lives of real unplugged humans, just for his own selfish life to live inside the matrix again. No matter how "right" he was he could have chosen to just end his own life inside or outside the matrix instead of attempting to wipe out humankind. That's what makes him evil and dead wrong.
You cyphered out the problem with Cypher.
@@oliversmith9200 It's not hard when the problem gave up his existence for the illusion of eating some juicy steak.
Didn't Morpheus also fail to mention the Sacrifice Neo and Trinity would have to make, to end the war? Though from his point of view all these sacrifices were still for the greater good of the red team. What Cypher did was messed up too for sure, agreeing to be on the red team then turning his back on them. But maybe they were also neglecting everything the body needs, neglecting Cypher's needs? No one brings him food, no love. Not feeling valued, he just does what he's told now. Is that what he sign up for? Just as they brushed off Mouse when making this point, as he called them hypocrites. This led Cypher to turn on his team, not valuing them or their mission any longer. Same with Ephialtes in 300, could they not have given him an honorary position or something of the sort, keep him proud of his homeland? I'm sure he could have taken a few down. Instead, we saw what Leonidas's mistake in leadership caused in the long run. With the Persians making an offer Ephialtes couldn't refuse, in exchange for his intel. "The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members” - Gandhi. Weren't Neo and Trinity able to live Freely within the matrix at the end of Resurrections, not be bound by IO Or the matrix, have steak, even paint the sky rainbows if they choose?
his team mates already made their choice, so the only thing they have going for them was the consequence.
@@NicholasLatipi Picking a weak and easily confused mind like Cypher and having him on their ship was a bad choice. Worthy of consequence? Of course.
Rather a beautiful dream than a hellish nightmare fr
But it's not real
@@MysTicBiGz real's overrated It's all about that endless pursuit of happiness
authenticity always wins all else is escapist bs
@@MysTicBiGz Nothing is real, there's no way out of the matrix. Even if you think that you're out, you're just being allowed to believe that you're out.
1:40 Cypher ate the steak. Like the woman ate the cake. Like Neo ate the cookie. Something changed in him. That's why he passed the test. I wonder if that was the same Merovingian restaurant the woman got the cake at, now that I think of it?
The few times food is eaten, it holds meaning.
@@willsmith8586 code insertion. Food alters their code making them more susceptible to manipulation.
The irony of using AI to avoid copyright claims
"it was predicted by The Orkle"
what exactly makes it ironic?
@@SalemCrow they use AI to find copyright infringements.
The retorkle orkle
Morpheus would not have been such a likable character if he was shown straight-up ending a disciple.
Steak looked good the wine seemed delicious the harp sounded quite pleasant. Enough said. VR for me
Morpheus said himself, “‘real’ is simply electrical impulses interpreted by your brain.”
In the reality world, steak became extinct. Just rice pudding that tasted supposedly like chicken without any creativity of real tasty organic food.
@@intorsusvolo7834 Do you think that's "air" you're breathing? Hmmm?
Cypher was plainly sick&tired of his situation aboard the Nebuchadnezzar, I'm theorizing. Eating goop vs eating prime rib??? It'd be tempting to eat the dream-prime-rib. Plus, Trinity had spurned him, so unrequited love.....
Cypher needs his own movie
Cypher was a sellout, but you have to agree that the irony of the whole movie in a breakdown video on RUclips called:
"Film Theory: Neo ISN'T The One in The Matrix Trilogy"
This shows exactly who was supposed to destroy the Matrix, and another great video from same channel called:
"Film Theory: The Matrix has NO ESCAPE"
Mind blowing stuff
You have to find out his motivation. Not all loyalty is fruitful e.g. loyalty to criminal enterprises and organisations is not considered "intelligent".
I've seen this movie at least 30 times , so you already know i like this topic 👍.
I don't know about "right," but his decision was understandable and relatable.
I mean, it's a very good point: If you found out life was a simulation, would you really want to know the reasons why? At all cost? If you could cope or comprehend the reason/s, would you really want to fight it? Or is ignorance really bliss after all? To where, it's really just better to go with the flow, or have fun with it the best you could? What if you found out the real world was depressing, cold and lonely? And the food sucked? What if you found out you were just a lonely being that created all of this for company? Etc. Breaking the system may seem like the logical choice, but it also might not be...and that's assuming such thing was even possible at all.
The same goes for multiverses. Going to another universe (if possible) may not be wise, or might even be suicide. We don't know the rules there. Another universe might be of higher dimensions that we couldn't comprehend--might go mad in, or maybe our heads might explode...who knows? Universes might be anywhere from similar to radically different. Chaotic even, like Event Horizon depicts, when a ship crosses over to another realm where the crew commits unspeakable atrocities to one another. The director had so many disturbing things to show us about that realm, but the production company found them too disturbing, graphic and grotesque and cut them. The footage is now lost.
Forced to serve a cause that already discarded him for not being perfect. His story is unfortunately relatable to most modern men.
M.E., you should be a consultant for the next movie!
You have great speculations and ideas.
"He's gonna pop" meant he's gonna puke lol. I question this video.
I stop watching after I heard this. :)
“I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious, Ignorance is bliss”.
I just found your channel and decided to subscribe because I am fascinated by the story of the matrix and its characters
"I don't want to remember nothing." But if you wipe someone's memories, then you kill that person. Cypher was asking to be killed with only his body left alive.
I've started to believe that "He's gonna pop" simply means that he's going to puke. An colloquialism suggesting that it's not just 1999 in the real world
I don't see how any other interpretation was ever possible.
he is relating it to a manga which is where this phrasing comes from. Is my guess. Thus the art work.
Maybe he was getting tired of fighting.
Fighting and always looking over your shoulder as you watch out for agents.
@firstblessings8777 and always being told you're second fiddle to the 1.
And also eating frogspawn that tastes like off chicken.... 😂
I can explain Cyphers motivation with a true story that happened to me. So when explaining how I see the world to a friend and how we are indeed trapped in a Very similar matrix as the movie at first my friend was very open to learning about it. As time went on however my friend expressed anger towards me for telling them of this because as they tried to go on with their life after they couldn’t attain happiness because they knew deep down all the falsities they were trying to still participate in were all lies. Much like Cypher they even symbolically tried to reinsert themselves back into the matrix but once you learn the truth it’s impossible to go back and to a certain extent this person tried to pull me back into the matrix with them. To me this is what the Wahowskis were trying to convey with Cypher. After Cypher learned the truth of the matrix the joy he attained in the matrix was gone and he lived the harsher truth of the Real World. After a while he wanted to go back to that Joy he thought he had in the matrix and was willing to do anything to attain it, including turning on Morpheus and trying to kill Neo.
When Neo speaks with the Architect, who tells Neo that he is "the remainder of an unfinished equation." It would have been great to add a sentence along the lines of, "simply a remainder of one." It would tie in great with the first movie's prophesy that kept calling him "the One".
This needs more up votes.
That would have been some good word play.
I love these updated videos!!!
I like also Cypher, because all his actions are really free-minded.
I was thinking about that there's a certain bonding between Cypher and the Merovingian. What the Merovingian tries to tell the crew is that everything they're doing is because they don't have the full picture of what's happening. Cypher, in the other hand, understands that there's another layer of control in Zion, and that all the fight is useless. He's the most free of all the crew.
Many times Smith calls the group as a group of terrorists... What if he's right?
25 years later we are here debating if Cypher was right, it’s the same root of debating if the humans are right on prosecuting mutants on x-men. This generation decided that individual comfort is way more important than the collective freedom.
Cypher was a traitor, oracle prophesying it or not. He decided that his individual comfort in the ignorance of the Matrix was better than fighting for the harsh truth of freedom.
Dear lord... A Matrix 5
Im my mind there is only one and the Animatrix is a nice addition.
Hey, it prints money for washed-up directors and actors. They will continue to make them as long as it makes them money
I forget the 4th even existed, and I still think it's better that way.
The first films a masterpiece 2 3 are a joke and water of time
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 just like you!!!!! I'm joking 🙃
It just seemed like Cypher was always on the fence about joining that revolution and living on a cold, sterile spaceship and eating goop for so many years, he snapped. Also something nobody hardly talk about: Maybe he found out the Truth about being reinserted back in the Matrix? Morpheous told Neo, like he told so many others "Red or Blue Pill, either way there's no turning back" and I'll assume after that meeting with Agent Smith he was told he can in fact be re-inserted back in the Matrix. Thus, why he said "he lied to us, he tricked us. If you would have told us the truth......." part of the monologe. That, as well as Morpheous being wrong about other people who he thought was "The one" Kinda changes his character and makes him.seem manipulative rather then a potential disciple
but for all we know, maybe it's not possible for someone to be re-inserted into the matrix, we're just taking agent smith's word for it
in the movie I think agent smith speaks of the early matrix being a paradise, and humans just couldn't believe it, maybe a cypher who already has had the mirage of the matrix broken already in his mind would have a hard time believing it
agent smith has no problem getting rid of humans against the matrix, as he wants cypher to do the things he does (to Apoc and Switch)
Agent Smith states his distaste towards humanity, as he states we are a virus, a cancer
After seeing the sweaty rave at Zion, I'd rather stay in the Matrix
😂😅😂
6:57 I was disappointed with with Matrix 4, so I'm not so enamored with having a Matrix 5
Cypher is a great source
Cypher knew it was all a WASTE OF TIME FIGHTING THE WAR… it was better to just ACCEPT THE MATRIX and enjoy it… period.😊
Cypher just didn’t like the reality, he found himself missing his old life, and came to realize he liked his old life better, so he decided to go back in the Matrix by siding with the machines in exchange for a few incentives once he was put back in the Matrix. Life in the Matrix had qualities that life outside of it didn’t have. It’s not about being right it’s about being happy, he wasn’t happy outside the matrix.
i honesty hesitate clicking on your vids… they really get my brain on a blender
Cypher, IMO, was weak-minded and selfish and just wanted an easy way out. Cigars and steaks were more important than the bigger fight.
Actually, if I was told a vague thing by Morpheus, that there was a possibility that there was something else other than the world I would accept just to see it, if I didn't know what it actually meant. Would I have regretted it, maybe. But the fact that the world was a total lie would give me a sense of righteousness to stay and fight in the real world
Cypher was probably right, there is nothing left to fight in the "real world", which is probably fake too and just another level of the matrix simulation, maybe humans are no more than just brains in a jar connected to a super computer inside a massive scientific research compound built by the machines, somewhere on Earth, so he just picked the better option for his life.
You are saying that from your current state of being though. If finding out that fact just caused you suffering for a long period of time you would start to not care about truth any more and just about better states of being. You have to feel bad for a really long time before you accept that feeling good is an end in itself and facts or ideas about a situation often don't really matter in the long run. I do think that guilt is a big factor and something you can't let go of, but deciding to liv a lie because 99% of the time it feels better is a no-brainer.
"This is the real world, and the real world isn't about heroes and miracles." Cypher's version of the real world is Satan's kingdom. A place without heroes and miracles is hell.
I don't know how you arrived at this lol. Cypher was mad at Morpheus and felt he'd been deceived. He didn't think always running for your life from agents in the so called "real world" was an ideal life. He, just like me, would have preferred the illusion and ignorance of staying in the matrix. From the early days that I watched the film, I understood this about the character and always thought then and now that he's 100percent correct.
That AI music is impressive!
I'm happy with the cut we got it is more clear cut & more palatable.... verses having Morpheus as some kind of bad guy.
Let’s be honest MOST of us would of taken the Cypher route if put in that situation
Actually he was right basically staying in the matrix is the only way to really live whereas it’s useless to fight the robots in a system where they control them anyways
Yes, he was right about this.
The Matrix movies always have a cynical character , that backs up the "enlightened" character. In the 1st movie, he pushed the momentum of the film over to Neo completely, because the viewer thought that Neo was gonna drop the ball. That scene where Cypher got zapped, probably kept alot of people in their seats at the movies😊
The deleted scenes would have fitted in the movie, by inserting them later in the film for example by Cipher having returning nightmares about the dying ones, making his decisions more understandable? And if the Agents betray Cipher after reinserting him back into the Matrix, just because of cynicals are dangerous to any system, and also because of the Agents nature, he can become an even more valueable ally, with a vengeance!
So Cypher’s plan was to hand Morpheus over to Smith, get back to the ship, make sure the others don’t make it back, and wait for the Sentinels to pick him up, so they could erase his memory and re-insert him into the Matrix with huge power plant?
yes
Pretty much the machines would need to replug him like they did with Neo
If they would even honor their end of the deal! The agents will act at all costs!
What is the GOAL of every Human? Literally the point of living? To be as HAPPY as possible, as long as possible! Cypher has chosen Happiness over a lifelong pointless struggle, i can understand him!
i always found Cypher underrated. i mean i would be disappointed and disgusted with how my life turned out all because i was stupid enough to take the red pill to live in a post apocalyptic world. while i might sympathize with Cypher he shouldn't have betrayed everyone. if i knew what would be waiting for me outside the matrix i would have taken the blue pill. sometimes ignorance is bliss
I think he could have handled an apocalyptic world. What he couldn't stomach is the only thing he wanted in Trinity wanting someone else... He gave up far more than neo and had been dedicated to the cause for far longer. Who wouldn't be jealous and downright pissed off add all the lies just to be alone and have nothing to eat in a cold world with nothing green?
@@blaze556922 good point
@@krystalkayne5242 Ironically cypher was the most realistic character from the original film. Realistic as in he was relatable. You could understand and emphasise with his growing resentment towards Morpheus, his inability to accept reality as a crew member with the least responsibility on the Nebuchadnezzar. His insatiable lust for Trinity. His jealousy towards Neo. For a film with a story essentially set at the end of the 22nd century, Cypher was a character who was still very much rooted into the 90s. Although a supporting character he plays a key part in the 2nd act, working with smith, betraying his crew members, killing them etc. His death was incredibly satisfying but character is testament to the ingenuity of the script. Every good or complex story needs a twist, a character who’s a backstabber, traitor. Joe Pantoliono was fantastic in the role.
Cypher sought a life of pleasures instead of following the righteous path. As Thanos said: “The hardest choices require the strongest wills.”
Ive always held that zion was also in the matrix and so everything they are all doing is pointless.
Physics and Metaphysics belong together. There is so much dense information in art and writing, like "perfectly balanced, as all things should be". This is the universe playing human games. At the core, its one its all from the source. The code is within.
Cypher betrayed because Trinity had said "I have a boyfriend"
Only thing Cypher was mistaken about is not wanting to remember when plugged back into the Matrix. Best part would have being a famous rock star and known you are in the Matrix.
I figured the Animatrix scene was due to Cypher’s betrayal, meaning he didn’t take that test.
I dont applaud his motivation,but in a personal way,i can understand him
How many people in our world choose a comfortable lie over an uncomfortable truth? As the biblical Jesus said, the way is difficult(compressed) and few find it.
In the coming two decades, millions of people will begin to take the path of Cypher, choosing to live in a VR world, and interacting in a romantic way with lines of code and robots. It is a sad fact, but the state of modern society is driving people to that end. Millions already live a great part of their lives online, on social media and immersed in video games and corn.
Cypher was just a plot device meant to keep the story interesting, an alternative perspective. It's basic storytelling 101. You're getting caught up in his role.
Or your IQ level doesn't let you see any deeper
ALL of these deleted and "original The Ones" scenes, SHOULD HAVE been included in the Animatrix ! 😒
He wasnt right...
He made a choice! Knowing full well that he'd be living an illusion and yet chose that over everyone. Thats wrong as it gets.
Hard to deny the Oracle when she got those chocolate chip cookies. Works every time.
Cypher couldn't handle the truth. He wanted back in the matrix
I won't blame him. He'd seen many of his comrades die. That was no life always looking over one's shoulder.
Matrix 5? Yes!!
It was weird, but semi-enjoyable, so thumbs upped.
Seemed obvious to me, they spelled it out. He wanted to be reinserted into the matrix with caveats. He wanted to be rich and just live that life
The effect of the oracle is not something I would call control, though. I feel that the element of choice is always included in her aspects. All explanations to justify Cypher are understandable. But this would likely be true for any person committing heinous acts. Should we understand what is actually going on in any person we would always have a chance to understand their doing. That does not mean we should agree with it.
Sadly there are countless examples of people who were right about their suffering but made the mistake of choosing to murder.
Cypher the hero we needed, not the one we deserved. I mean what is wrong with living in the matrix if we are born there. The Architech did say that they created a utopia for us but that it was our nature that broke the simulation. Some of us just dont want happiness if we can choose.
Was he promised to be someone important, when he got reinserted back into the matrix.
Parts of that film make more sense now, than previously.
What Cypher believed was that, even the resistance was part of the Matrix. That they were all being played and that the future, whatever it was, was already written. By that logic, if Cypher felt o.k. with dropping his friends under the bus, so to speak, that this idea in his head, was already written by those who controlled the Matrix who were far, far, far, more powerful than him. So, hey, just give him the best meal he has ever eaten and then, do as you will. It's all been preordained anyway.
Nope, he just wanted a cushier virtual life back inside his pod of goo, and was willing to betray the very people that showed him he was living in a fake world and freed him
Cypher knew there was no "real world " that could ever be proven. Only the Matrix was all that he knew.
Big C loved the chain around his throat
I really liked your video showing how the Oracle manipulates everyone. It really is revealing.
If they bring Cyper back, it would probably be most appropriate to show him as a normal person not involved with the Matrix.
Either Neo saved humanity at the end of the original Matrix or Zion and the "world of the Real" was just another Matrix, i.e. there is only one Matrix movie :P
Cypher a whole sell out. The goal was bigger than Morpheus. If he didn’t like how Morpheus was moving, he could have created his own crew. He sold out the whole city for a steak dinner and the dream of being a famous actor 🤢
i never understood the cookie being more than a snack until now lmao. yiiikes
Comfort, the war never really ends
I get the message of the Matrix. But let's imagine if this was actually real. Why the hell would I want to be pulled out, if the real world is broken beyond repair: no sunlight, living in a giant sewage system, eating porridge and fighting against giant robotic squids that can rip me apart in an instant.
I'll still go for that over being trapped in a pod of hand sanitizer looking goo buck naked with a HDMI cable stuck in the base of my skull 🤷🏻♂️
@@ScubaSteveM45 Will you now? Let's say we are in the matrix right now. Everything you did, ate, smelled, saw, felt, all the people you have met, befriended, loved...all felt real and continue to feel real. Oh, and you don't actually feel you are in a pod of goo while in the Matrix. You are gonna ditch that life so you can live as a basically a sewer rat? Mkay
Cypher was a coward
Period.
A coward will refuse to accept reality and seek the easy way out seek comfort even if
IT'S NOT REAL
That's the nature of denial.
I personally think this theory is hokey pokey nonsense. Cipher sacrificed his crew mates who were in his exact situation, without a hint of remorse. His character was morally flawed from the day he was bred. No amount of subtle nudging by the Oracle would result in the deletion of ethics and responsibility. He was a dick, plain and simple..... someone who put his own comfort and world view above all others. Cipher was right.......pshhh.... gimme a break.
I dont agree with betraying his friends but i totally get not wanting to fight a hopeless war and preferring to stay asleep
Cypher wanted back into the illusion and took the shortest path... taking lives. This was his biggest mistake. All he had to do was get re-assigned and find another way; into the matrix.
So how did Cypher get in and out of the matrix to meet with the agents over a steak dinner, with no one else to hook him up and provide a way out?
Thats what i would like to know. Good question. Thank you.
Mouse was with him
Cypher was contemporarily right. But nothing remains the same. He could be wrong tomorrow.
What does that mean?
@@yosra3551 means in the short term his decision is rational and practical but in the long term he may live to regret it.
Yeah, plug me back in please.
I never understood why Cypher would want his memory to be erased when put back in the matrix with all the perks he's got. The best part would be knowing how bad the other side was. 🤷♂️
How do you find the song, "Take me back to the Matrix" - 100% AI generated song? I can't find it anywhere
Excellent analysis
I love how we’re starting to consider different perspectives, and looking past the typical black-and-white, good guy versus bad guy mindset. Life is so nuanced.
Whoa there's going to be another Matrix movie? btw, great synopsis of the real Cypher character.