It is but u realize they don’t have the whole mountain to work with there’s paths and the choke points cause the traffic so it being big isn’t that crazy especially with it being so well known
Have you ever hiked? Traffic jams are very common on popular hikes. There are only so many good weather days in the proper season and then only a limited number of paths to take. So yeah, the biggest mountain in the world is going to be popular and face crowding lol.
@@bartlett2335 You call this a "hike"? How many hikes take you up to 29,000 feet and require you to carry oxygen bottles with you? How many hikes take you into a "death zone" in one of the most inhospitable places on Earth? How many hikes can cause you to put other people's lives at risk besides your own if you're careless? How many hikes are there where if you die, your body is just left behind because it's too dangerous for anybody to try carrying it back down? Climbing up Mt. Everest is NOT a "hike".
My late father would often say this about litter, "If you can carry it full, you can carry it empty." I'm sure it's more challenging on Everest, but everything is.
That was something that I always admired about the dirt bike riding club that I was part of in Las Vegas, we used to go riding in the desert during the day and partying at night. and the ONLY thing we left behind were tire tracks, not so much as a cigarette butt was left behind. after all, it is OUR freaking desert and we didn't want to trash it, We appreciated the beauty of the desert, after packing up our stuff we'd do a thorough walk through to make sure nothing was left behind. and these idiotic climbers have turned Everest into a freaking landfill.
A gondola might be good for them, yes. Make a lot of money on tourism without the work. Since people aren't really doing it for the challenge, they're doing it for the photo op and the "look at where I am" energy. If they were doing it for the challenge, they'd climb K2. But they won't because it's hard.
@@truthseeker2222 Do you really believe that if thousands of people took a gondola up Mt. Everest that no one would have to poop and when they did, they would take it with them? Stupid comment. now go report me you self-righteous arrogant millenial l*ser.
The real truth of this is that ego is killing Everest and nature is retaliating. May this mountain holy to the Sherpa people heal from it's reputation among them as a graveyard
Among other things, absolutely. People will do insane things and spend fortunes just for bragging rights. It's absolutely predictable that people who shouldn't be climbing are up there. It's claimed hideous tolls on the environment and the sherpa community (who are often treated like indentured servants rather than a valued resource).
What AI has done to youTube is obscene. "How this content was made Altered or synthetic content Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated." visuals... digitally generated... means AI was used to intersperse, in this instance, images that in fact were never photographed. RUclips, first and foremost, was intended to present videos _proper_ , not a bunch of transitions between (mostly) stills, narrated eventually entirely by TTS voices.
@@will.green. I didn't say it wasn't difficult, did I? No, I didn't. The point, which was obviously lost on you, is that it's no longer a unique thing. And as I understand it, it's a disgusting endeavor, shitting outside, dead people everywhere, it sounds like a toxic waste dump.
@@will.green. You got 50-100K laying around? How wonderful, you are told what to do, when to eat or sleep, what an achievement! A overpriced guided, hands-off tour!
More like hundreds! 2023 they sold over 430 tickets. In 2024 they did change just a couple rules regarding how many tickets sold, requiring climbers to bring trash down and one or two other things I forgot. You can read about it online. However much didn’t change when they still sold over 300 tickets and there’s only a 3-5 day window the summit can happen. By the time it’s Summit Day they’ve been hiking, training and climbing over a month straight. That’s insane!!!!!
That Mountain should be closed until further notice. Clean it up, remove the deceased and study what the effect of constant traffic has on it structurally. This is a human disgrace - a lack of respect or appreciation for the natural world. Thanks for the beautiful, thoughtful video…
I saw another comment saying people leave "poop". Thought he jist didn't wanna swear and say "shit" as in general junk. Didn't know he meant literal feces lol. That's the problem with being dependent on tourism.
Paterson spend between 35k to 50k$ (cost for a guided expedition) to *raise* money for a good cause.... Am I the only one who doesnt get the logic behind this decision making?
That happens often, I always roll my eyes. It is just a permission structure for them to spend 10s of thousands of $ for their own egotistical needs, to look out for a fundraiser option that they just can slap on top of their trip that they had planned anyway. If you want to raise money for a good cause, make a donation run event at your own country, forsake the Everest plan and donate 50,000$ for the good cause directly. If you are not willing to do that, just go on your climb and shut up about it.
It's like that Frasier episode in which he and his brother were desperate to get through successively enticing doors of a club... ending up in the back alley.
That pic at 0:56 of all those people on Everest is just pure insanity. I feel like there should never be that many people up there at once. I don't see the point at all, personally... But to think you have a crowd like a NYC street on top of Mt Everest is just bonkers! and all that trash left on the mountain just makes me so mad. How can you be such an awful selfish prick to just leave a bunch of trash?
@@joeshmoe7485 Because many of the litterers don't live long to pick up the trash. The trash is one big thing, but even bigger is that Mt Everest is a giant graveyard. Quite macabre actually.
The trash is an eyesore, I get it. But I reckon if I climbed all the way up there in that harsh climate with a bunch of stuff and tried to take it down it would change the way I feel.
that pic is like 20 years old. there was a lot of bad weather at the summit causing a backup at the higher camps, followed by absolutely beautiful climbing weather when everyone took their shot.
My friend Dooley went to base camp 2 on Everest in 2021. He told me the snow was literally filled everywhere with frozen human feces and urine. He said Everest was like a giant human toilet bowl. He said it was absolutely disgusting
@@truthisoutthere6721 have these people never heard of chemical toilets, then again once they're filled, the locals would probably have to deal with chemical spills on top of everything else. What as a matter of interest, did sherpas actually do before becoming sherpas, and if the Nepalese government calls for a 2 or 3 year lock-out of all climbs to the summit, could the sherpas go back to their former occupations for the duration, or are their former ways of life totally gone for good.
They don't realise if 1 tourist slips another 10-20 can be dragged down.Overloading the summit path + pressure/vibrations on snow/ice can start an avalanche.
What nonsense - are modern people really this ignorant? We will be complaining about ants causing environmental damage soon ...will the craziness never end?
Cancer charity? Lol there's been many cures. But the messenger always gets taken out. You're not gonna do anything but line the pockets of the already rich
What this has become is a dangerous slow moving queue to the top of a mountain. It is reminiscent of a line of thrill seekers lining up to ride a mega roller coaster.
Nepal is a poor country. I'm not going to point a guilty finger at them for not turning down the 10s of thousands of dollars that foreigners wave at them every year. If 1996 taught us anything, it is that you are pretty much on your own and at the mercy of the mountain... which, in the end, is not very merciful.
Sure, because he knows exactly how many climbers have been permitted that year and better yet, he knows exactly how many will be on the mountain with him when he was to ascend. What a ridiculous statement you made!
@@parisite99 everybody who climbs Everest knows that it’s been overcrowded for years. Everybody has seen pictures going back several years of people stuck in a line on the way to the summit. Everybody knows there’s a risk of dying from multiple causes just by being stuck in the line at high altitude. Everybody knows avalanches can happen. He’s part of the problem by contributing to the overcrowding. Yet, people do it anyway because they think taking those risks makes it sexy, fun, more challenging, etc. you are defending the stupidity. An easy solution is for Nepal to auction off the permits and stop at a certain number, so only a very small group of the wealthiest climbers can risk their lives and their Sherpa lives, and fewer lives would be lost, and there’d be no financial negative impacts b/c if the higher fee for the permit. Problem solved. You’re welcome.
@@RC-qf3mp So it’s Nepal’s fault than. Place the blame appropriately! You just said so yourself. I never claimed it wasn’t crowded, I made the claim that your comment was stupid! I stand by that claim.
@@parisite99 it’s possible for there to be multiple causes and parties that could’ve prevented it. But when dealing with adults, with lots and lots of money, who are not mentally disabled or senile, then those parties are SOLELY to blame for their deaths after putting themselves at extraordinary risk to inflate their egos. Literally everybody on that mountain that day knew that Everest has gotten overcrowded and that overcrowding leads to many risks and those risks can lead to their own deaths and the deaths of others. Which part of that don’t you understand? We can also blame global warming and gravity…but that’s not the point here. The point is this a grown man who contributed to the very overcrowding that killed himself. Like a drunk driver … his actions were totally reckless. It’s not surprising when drunk drivers kill other people or themselves.
I honestly feel no sympathy whatsoever for the climbers that die on Everest. For the rich tourist types that crowd the mountain anyway, it breaks my heart when the heroic sherpas are lost though.
I cannot agree with you more! These people risk their lives just to climb a big rock that overlooks other big rocks lol Because when you think about it, that’s exactly what it boils down to. I have no sympathy for anybody that risks their lives for no other reason than to boast.
@@Justice-ef9sk I completely understand why they do it and I greatly admire the true mountaineers or any other extreme sportsman. It's the idiots with more money than sense that do it just to boast and completely relying on sherpas and porters to drag them to the top and save them when their naivety nearly gets them killed.
@@jonathanlake6053 Then with the trash and 💀 death, the over crowd line at the top. People will decide to stop coming and climb 🧗♀️ other mountains that are cleaner
Calm down, Everest his HUGE, there are a few areas on the guided routes that need cleaning up, but 95% of it is fine.. Maybe the government would make stronger rules about refuse? or enforce the ones they already have. hAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON A BIG MOUNTAIN?
An angry mountain...eh?? We are going back into paganism - so bizarre....modern people have no decency and no morals... just paganism and satanism now-a-days. More concerned about people littering, climbing up a grubby mountain than they are about the abuse and neglect of children - get your priorities right....
The mountain is a rock, it has no emotions. People of means, love to visit beautiful but backwards, moronic countries, you know, countries that think rocks are Gods that get angry.
Exactly. And expecting the government of Nepal, with all the issues they have, to give up revenues to protect some rich tourists from themselves is ... special.
listen i get what you're saying, but it's safe to say both are to blame here. people should do more research before deciding to do anything, secondly too many have this mindset that they are different, it will be different for /them/ and therefo they couldn't possibly be harmed or do harm. but the government is also at fault for they have the power to shut these companies down due to fatal negligence and no one in their right mind would blame them. but they haven't nor going to do otherwise they lose out a very large amount of money and revenue. for all they care is "they signed a consent form-" it's tragic truly.
I don't know about you , but I would feel pretty stupid, to turn up to mt. Everest and find hundreds of people queuing up to summit, especially after all the training, planning and money invested in it...
German filmmaker Werner Herzog once called mountaineering one of humanity's cardinal sins because it robs the mountains of their dignity. These images bear him out.
Mountains have dignity? Mountains are inanimate objects. The earth is 4.5 billion years old. It has experienced 5 world wide catastrophic events. It's only a matter of time until the next one occurs and leaves absolutely zero trace of our existence. We are of no significance and no threat to this planet. Only to ourselves and our existence on this planet.
@@ladybug591 You should read more. Sherpas do it because it allows them to feed their families, there aren't a lot of other jobs available to them and their government has become so dependent on the money the tourism and licensing provisioning brings in that their economy is slowly being funded primarily by Mt. Everest tourism.
@@stt5v2002 So do the people who work in coal mines and in sweatshops. It's not that they don't know that it's dangerous, but that it's the only option they have available to them to support their families. An extremely large portion of the people and the government itself is dependent on the revenue that tourism to Mt. Everest brings in, even if it's killing them and poisoning the land itself.
@@darius5066 the government should fix that then. its not really the tourists fault or responsibility to avoid going somewhere that literally encourages people to go there...
Just my opinion, but I watched a video where several hikers climbed up to the mountain villages. They were able to stay in the hospices that are available,and eat the local foods. They did not have the pressure or dangers of the Death Zone. If more hikers would just visit the villages, it would financially help the local people.
Thank you! I agree. These people literally risk their lives just to climb a big rock… To look at the view of other big rocks lol Because that’s exactly what it boils down to. They are well aware of the serious risks, and they do it anyway. Anybody that climbs Mount Everest is a fool.
The irony of these rich, powerful, "elite" climbers, with their expensive equipment and training, lining up and elbowing their way to the cold, barren top of the world, only to perish. Crabs in a bucket, no matter where you go. Except we leave trash.
Hate to break it to you but these are not "elite" climbers, if fact that's kinda what the videos about, most of these do not have enough experience to climb Everest (even with guides)
@@mpreiss7780you dont seem to say anything about the trash they leave behind, if you dont want people to dislike this then work harder to hold your fellow mountaineers accountable for the disrespect and trash they leave behind instead of getting defensive on every comment.
@@gokuformanvsfood I agree the trash should be cleaned up and all future climbers should be held responsible for taking the trash out with them. No arguments there, Just do not like when people try and tell other people how to live their life and criticize something they have no idea about.
People call Stockton Rush's customers idiots for going on what became their final journey, try these mongs on for size, spending 120 K to freeze to death or fall to your death or suffocate! That's the definition of idiotic.
seriously... what "authorities" are we looking to act here? do people need some greater authority than themselves tell them to use some sense? No one is pushing any one of these people in line... they are 100% fully informed of this crowding, they are 100% selfish, 100% willing to die for this, and 100% unwilling to yield. who in their right mind feels sorry for _any_ of them? This is 100% self-inflicted.
This is so tragic. The region needs the revenue, the sherpas need the income, but the trash these thrill-seekers leave behind is abhorrent. I saw somewhere a while back that one group only tipped their sherpa what equated to $2 in U.S currency. Just disgraceful. 😢
Who are you to tell people what to do with the money they most likely earned through smart and hard work? Making them feel guilty by pursuing something that most people wouldn't be able to afford. Should they just give everything away and live a standard life even though they have non-standard abilities and income?
I remember doing a "lecture" in high school about the human waste pollution of base camp of Mt Everest and the issues of mass tourism there based on some news articles available then. That was 40 years ago
I think Mount Everest should be declared a closed national park where only very few researchers may be allowed to enter for scientific purposes, but that's it.
Once you sign up, it's your death wish. If you return safe, that's a luck and not because of your ability. There is places on earth humans are not belongs to and Everest is one of them besides K2. Do not blame anyone but it's the climber responsibility themselves.
It's amazing the lack of respect every one of these people have for the environment. They have a massive problem with pollution, human waste in particular out there
Its a Very Physically and Mentally Challenging Feat. AND NO LONGER IMPRESSIVE AND NO LONGER COOL!. In fact it hasn't been cool for 10 years or longer The stigma around it is a Bunch of Wealthy People with too much time on their hands. When I think of Everest I think of the Sherpa who took it upon himself to put someone on their back and carry them down the mountain. The sherpa who risked their life disnt even get a Thank You. Instead the Climber Thanked their "Team" instead The mountain has been "Conquered" thousands of times and was probably conquered for hundreds of years prior by The Sherpa People but they don't get the credit Is it fair to judge All Climbers this way?. Probably not but the only news about Everest that the General Public get (Thats me) is bad news and bad behavior If someone told Me They just climbed Everest im not going to be impressed. It carries a Stigma now rather than a sense of human accomplishment
You're entirely correct but if you've ever summitted a tall mountain then you know the unique sense of achievement that comes with it. He went in with his eyes open.
@@drumhaver223i never have Summited anything. And I don't doubt that those whon have a Sense of Achievement however so does juiced out dude in the Gym who benches 405. Like I said the new Stigma may not be fair or atleast not fair to everyone (probably not fair to most). The bad ones are the ones that make the most noise. Its just climbing Everest does not carry the same weight as it used to. Not even close. To the general Public it has become kind of a Bad thing. Hence the Stigma.
So why not limit the number of climbers, you ask? Who do you think regulates the expeditions? Charging $30,000 - $120,000 per climber is just too lucrative for the Nepalese government. Nothing will change.
The Nepalese government is not charging that. That’s what the total cost is paid to one of the guide companies. The Nepal government gets a small portion of that. They only make around 5 MM USD each year. It’s peanuts. They need to Jack up the fees and allow less people.
@@paulgrey8028 lol. No. It is not. They spend a lot of that 5 mill on the issuing of those permits. So the net back to their coffers is minimal. Their total budget for 2022-23 was 14.7 Billion USD.
They need to pass a law to make each hiker bring back a fraction of their weight in trash from Everest. Make them pay a $100K trash deposit. When they return with trash, they get their deposit back.
There are thirty mountains in Nepal that are each above 7km high, and six of them above 8km high including Everest. It would be a massive achievement to climb any of these for someone visiting Nepal.
Sounds slightly similar to Snowdonia in Wales. Lots of 900m/3000ft peaks around with amazing views and technical walks but people queue up on Snowdon. I’m happy that they do however, as I can explore the others in peace. Never going back to Snowdon it’s ghastly now.
I don't see The point of paying tens of thousands of dollars to risk my life to haul my trash up to Mount Everest in a traffic jam when I can just put it in the trash can here and the trash company will come haul it away to the dump.
Seeing the lines of climbers have made Everest a punch-line. And to think there was a time when two brave men (Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay) made history by being the first to summit Everest in 1953.
I honestly can't even see the appeal of climbing anymore with crowds added to the already extreme conditions. I would not make the climb, even if my way was completely paid for me.
Yes, and millions of mountains that aren’t the highest in the world, genius. That such sheer ambition seems to be lost on so many people is nothing short of depressing to me. You all would rather comfortably ferment in your own juices your whole life instead of taking a risk to achieve something of greatness. A whole society of people driven by comfort and hedonism.
@Icetea-2000 I don't see this as greatness in any way shape or form. It takes zero skill. They pay for the people to do the actual work. Climbing it is not impressive in any way. You want to be ambitious? Cure cancer. Adopt an orphanage. Rescue dogs. Solve world hunger. Climbing a stupid mountain is just that, stupid.
@@Icetea-2000 it's rich out of touch people paying others to work for them, so... the same as everywhere else, just on top of a big rock. How ambitious!
@@robingalbraith323 ZERO SKILL??? No, you do the work yourself. Wtf do you think others do, carry them up there? No, they ascend the mountain on their own. It’s an immense physical feat to climb Mount Everest, yet people here act like having a guide means you essentially took an elevator up there, completely ridiculous, and shows a complete lack of knowledge on the matter. Go climb an actual mountain and come back.
@@nyanchat2657 The comment above applies to you all the same, no one works for anyone when climbing up a mountain, you’re all working your own body up it. You’re all out of touch with what mountain climbing even is is the reality.
I wish that adventure athletes into mountaineering, spelunking and other extremely dangerous sports would pause and ask if other risky ambitions would serve their enthusiasm, and better serve their life expectancy, as well. Aid work in conflict zones? Medical team stints in impoverished rural countries? I joined such a team heading to Iraq in 2008, and it accomplished many goals--addressed my curiosity about the myths and realities of armed conflict, fulfilled my desire to support the wounded, and enhanced my ability to speak with first-hand authority about the situation upon our return home. And I wrote several articles stemming from the experience, one of which won a venerable journalism award. So yes--there are somewhat safer, far more humanitarian ways to pursue intense adventure today, without leaving your loved ones grieving forever, never even seeing or burying your battered body. Instead of subduing the world, ensuring your gearprints are dug into it, while your life is maybe exited early from it, imagine the world with some good, selfless work gracing it, and you still here, with us, to proudly share it.
As long as Everest is a major income source for the Nepalese govt. and the local citizens, they will never take any measures to jeopardize the climbing industry surrounding it. All nations, especially advanced ones, should come up with incentives in the form of financial reimbursement and economic assistance to minimize the negative impact of mountaineering tourism on Everest. In the end, Everest and the environment is a global issue and not a local one that should concern all of us.
Everest used to be the pinnacle of mountaineering. Now you have 80-year-old tourists, wanting to break a nation/ gender/ age record, pretty much holding a handrail to the top.
he would indeed. His climbing instructor was my father. These were men who climbed mountains and didn't have fixed ropes to pull themselves up with. All those queues of people are damaging the mountain.
I wonder if being a "skilled mountaineer" includes making sound decisions, for example not to wait in a line in the death zone for hours, or unclip from a safety line just to get up and down faster. If you are taking the mountain and the death risks seriously, you have to be prepared to make the reasonable decision and say "this is ridiculous, I will look for a less crowded mountain to summit, fuck Everest". So by this line of thinking, they were not so great experienced climbers after all.
Nepal should raise the cost to climb even higher. Say, 300k. They would collect same amount of money but there will be 10 times fewer people on the mountain
He bought his ticket, he took his ride. I don't feel a thing for the guy. I don't think it is awful, or a tragedy, or significant in any way, and certainly don't think anyone, or any government is in any way liable. Stupid is, as Stupid does.
This has been an issue for so long that it is doubtful any government regulation will be what is required to prevent these ongoing tragedies. It will require a fundamental shift in the attitude of what it means to summit Everest. An achievement that should bring shame rather than glory.
The fact that the words “Everest” and “traffic jams” are even in the same sentence, should tell just how wrong all of this is.
Yes indeed.
It is but u realize they don’t have the whole mountain to work with there’s paths and the choke points cause the traffic so it being big isn’t that crazy especially with it being so well known
Have you ever hiked? Traffic jams are very common on popular hikes. There are only so many good weather days in the proper season and then only a limited number of paths to take. So yeah, the biggest mountain in the world is going to be popular and face crowding lol.
@DamonMcNeill-d7qoverpopulation--or to be more specific humans-- are the source of all the world's ills
@@bartlett2335 You call this a "hike"? How many hikes take you up to 29,000 feet and require you to carry oxygen bottles with you? How many hikes take you into a "death zone" in one of the most inhospitable places on Earth? How many hikes can cause you to put other people's lives at risk besides your own if you're careless? How many hikes are there where if you die, your body is just left behind because it's too dangerous for anybody to try carrying it back down? Climbing up Mt. Everest is NOT a "hike".
Too many people with more dollars than sense.
Real talk!!!
@@geoffreylee5199 YEP!!! well said
Seriously. Not quite as much money and hubris as the titanic submersible fools, but damn near.
Ikr, and yet ask people for money on GoFundMe. Pffft
Trust fund babies....
Archeologists are going to think Everest was a burial site.
Ppl trying to escape Noah s flood
And scratch their heads wondering 'why on the side of this mountain?'
Archaeologists aren't stupid, mate.
Or a college campus.
@@Jane-oz7pp
But prolly funded by dotgov with an agenda
My late father would often say this about litter, "If you can carry it full, you can carry it empty." I'm sure it's more challenging on Everest, but everything is.
@@gogreen7794 Absolutely! There is such a lack of reverence for Everest.
That was something that I always admired about the dirt bike riding club that I was part of in Las Vegas, we used to go riding in the desert during the day and partying at night. and the ONLY thing we left behind were tire tracks, not so much as a cigarette butt was left behind. after all, it is OUR freaking desert and we didn't want to trash it, We appreciated the beauty of the desert, after packing up our stuff we'd do a thorough walk through to make sure nothing was left behind. and these idiotic climbers have turned Everest into a freaking landfill.
I wonder how it feels to go to a place so sacred and when you get there it looks like a walmart supercenter on a sunday afternoon.
It's become a Disneyland ride. Even disabled are carted up the mountain 'to make history'
Pretty sad. Its a real shame
A Walmart super center doesn't have that much trash. 😢 The pictures of the trash are so disturbing.
there is nothing so sacred that humans cant find a way to shit all over it.
or a frozen landfill
It's getting to the stage where the Nepalese government may as well have a gondola built to the top and charge people to ride it up for a photo op.
@@AnimalScienceTV Do you not understand sarcasm?
But FYI, the Aiguille du Midi cable car in Chamonix, France, has a vertical rise of 2800m.
at least with the gondola people wouldnt leave their poop up there.
Yes Miranda, and free ice cream.
A gondola might be good for them, yes. Make a lot of money on tourism without the work. Since people aren't really doing it for the challenge, they're doing it for the photo op and the "look at where I am" energy. If they were doing it for the challenge, they'd climb K2. But they won't because it's hard.
@@truthseeker2222 Do you really believe that if thousands of people took a gondola up Mt. Everest that no one would have to poop and when they did, they would take it with them? Stupid comment. now go report me you self-righteous arrogant millenial l*ser.
Tbh I'm most upset about the littering
You know the attitude. I paid $120 000 I can do what I want. That's the way this rich pricks are.
💯💯💯
The real truth of this is that ego is killing Everest and nature is retaliating. May this mountain holy to the Sherpa people heal from it's reputation among them as a graveyard
It's truly disgusting. Why even go there if you can't respect it.
@@OpoOnTheGoI mean the Sherpas are kind of inherently facilitating this
Nothing is sacred anymore to human kinds vanity, ego & greed. Mount Everest needs a rest.
Nice comment!!!!!
@@Maxine1630 thanks , we are on the same page
Everything for the social media to show off...
@@TheArnau13 ,,,,,,,,,,, as sir edwin arnold said " forgoing self the universe grows I"
Self-interest wins every time. The only way to regulate humans is by exorbitant costs and enforceable laws.
All these climbers should be ashamed of the fact that they've turned the mountain into a garbage dump!
climate change, told twice in 30 seconds. Years ago, it was glowbull warming.
Do people not understand that no one thinks you are cool for climbing Everest anymore?
Yes. This.
But how will people get the attention and validation that they seek when climbing everest??? oh no!
Incredibly untrue
But they want to feel cool... 😂
nah most ppl think its cool
Climbing "industry."
There's your problem, right there.
Among other things, absolutely. People will do insane things and spend fortunes just for bragging rights. It's absolutely predictable that people who shouldn't be climbing are up there. It's claimed hideous tolls on the environment and the sherpa community (who are often treated like indentured servants rather than a valued resource).
Bang on!!!
100%
Absolutely!
The problem being people who have no business being there.
Those queues look utterly ridiculous.
What has been done to Everest is obscene.
It's a resilient mountain. I think it'll be ok, millions of years after we're gone.
@@AdamsOlympia that fact doesn’t preclude what I said.
What AI has done to youTube is obscene.
"How this content was made
Altered or synthetic content
Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated."
visuals... digitally generated... means AI was used to intersperse, in this instance, images that in fact were never photographed. RUclips, first and foremost, was intended to present videos _proper_ , not a bunch of transitions between (mostly) stills, narrated eventually entirely by TTS voices.
They look obscene because they are AI generated. This thumbnail photo is FAKE.
Like a Disney ride waiting line
There are lines everywhere today. People should realize that it's no longer a big deal, when there's 50 people in front of you doing the same thing.
climbing everest isnt a big deal? then why dont you do it this weekend?
@@will.green. I didn't say it wasn't difficult, did I? No, I didn't. The point, which was obviously lost on you, is that it's no longer a unique thing. And as I understand it, it's a disgusting endeavor, shitting outside, dead people everywhere, it sounds like a toxic waste dump.
@@will.green.
You got 50-100K laying around?
How wonderful, you are told what to do, when to eat or sleep, what an achievement! A overpriced guided, hands-off tour!
What an unintelligent comment.
More like hundreds! 2023 they sold over 430 tickets. In 2024 they did change just a couple rules regarding how many tickets sold, requiring climbers to bring trash down and one or two other things I forgot. You can read about it online. However much didn’t change when they still sold over 300 tickets and there’s only a 3-5 day window the summit can happen. By the time it’s Summit Day they’ve been hiking, training and climbing over a month straight. That’s insane!!!!!
That Mountain should be closed until further notice.
Clean it up, remove the deceased and study what the effect of constant traffic has on it structurally. This is a human disgrace - a lack of respect or appreciation for the natural world.
Thanks for the beautiful, thoughtful video…
YES SIR! WE'LL GET RIGHT ON THAT!
Fr, there's so many dead bodies.. but I still dont understand why people still wanted to risk their lifes..
@@CottageDreams23 And you never will understand, but to criticize how others live is foolish
Whatever you wanna call it God, spirits, nature, etc. Something always punishes humanity for its Hubris.
Go home and clean your room....lol.
There is a huge problem with poop bags left on the mountain. People literally don't clean up their shit.
I was wondering about that: so they leave their **** bags behind, too. Wonderful. :/
@@jackspring7709 It would degrade by itself and it goes pretty fast, but the plastic bags is a different story..
I saw another comment saying people leave "poop". Thought he jist didn't wanna swear and say "shit" as in general junk. Didn't know he meant literal feces lol. That's the problem with being dependent on tourism.
It doesn't degrade at all up there because of the temperatures.@@khelben1979
Paterson spend between 35k to 50k$ (cost for a guided expedition) to *raise* money for a good cause.... Am I the only one who doesnt get the logic behind this decision making?
That happens often, I always roll my eyes. It is just a permission structure for them to spend 10s of thousands of $ for their own egotistical needs, to look out for a fundraiser option that they just can slap on top of their trip that they had planned anyway. If you want to raise money for a good cause, make a donation run event at your own country, forsake the Everest plan and donate 50,000$ for the good cause directly. If you are not willing to do that, just go on your climb and shut up about it.
Your the only one buying it
no, and I'm probably not the only one that will not be giving them any of my very tiny amount of money.
@@JIMIIXTLAN *You're
They are egotistical , the lot of them.
Nothing says exclusive club like a line to get in the club.
It's like that Frasier episode in which he and his brother were desperate to get through successively enticing doors of a club... ending up in the back alley.
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@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xxthat one was brilliant!
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx lmao, I remember that episode 😂🤣
That pic at 0:56 of all those people on Everest is just pure insanity. I feel like there should never be that many people up there at once. I don't see the point at all, personally... But to think you have a crowd like a NYC street on top of Mt Everest is just bonkers! and all that trash left on the mountain just makes me so mad. How can you be such an awful selfish prick to just leave a bunch of trash?
@@joeshmoe7485 Because many of the litterers don't live long to pick up the trash. The trash is one big thing, but even bigger is that Mt Everest is a giant graveyard. Quite macabre actually.
Money
The trash is an eyesore, I get it. But I reckon if I climbed all the way up there in that harsh climate with a bunch of stuff and tried to take it down it would change the way I feel.
The human centipede.
that pic is like 20 years old. there was a lot of bad weather at the summit causing a backup at the higher camps, followed by absolutely beautiful climbing weather when everyone took their shot.
My friend Dooley went to base camp 2 on Everest in 2021. He told me the snow was literally filled everywhere with frozen human feces and urine. He said Everest was like a giant human toilet bowl. He said it was absolutely disgusting
That tells the whole story.
Weird I've never once seen photos or videos of this
@@truthisoutthere6721
Did he pack out his poop
Nope he’s part of problem.
Dooley found doogie.
@@truthisoutthere6721 have these people never heard of chemical toilets, then again once they're filled, the locals would probably have to deal with chemical spills on top of everything else. What as a matter of interest, did sherpas actually do before becoming sherpas, and if the Nepalese government calls for a 2 or 3 year lock-out of all climbs to the summit, could the sherpas go back to their former occupations for the duration, or are their former ways of life totally gone for good.
If you have to be taught how to use crucial pieces of equipment, you have no business going anywhere near Everest
Agree. They should know that before arriving there
They don't realise if 1 tourist slips another 10-20 can be dragged down.Overloading the summit path + pressure/vibrations on snow/ice can start an avalanche.
They don’t tether that many people together like a train! 😂🤣
What nonsense - are modern people really this ignorant? We will be complaining about ants causing environmental damage soon ...will the craziness never end?
@@ladybug591
Uhh... no
gee i wonder if the climbers ever thought of that.
Who is they? You don’t think they thought of this?
Raise £200,000 rescue? Why not just give it to the cancer charity in the first place and don't climb Everest?
Cuz people have choices they can make 🙄🤷🏼♀️ but stay fat and on your couch it
But she needs that 200k for plastic surgery.
But, how would that benefit her?!?!
Cancer charity? Lol there's been many cures. But the messenger always gets taken out. You're not gonna do anything but line the pockets of the already rich
@@chonqmonk LOL!!!
What this has become is a dangerous slow moving queue to the top of a mountain. It is reminiscent of a line of thrill seekers lining up to ride a mega roller coaster.
Ego and adrenaline junkies. Man ruins everything, always.
Yeah, except there's no roller coaster at 80000 meters
look out, that first hill is a doozy!
But here at Everest people take several days to climb up. It's not fun like amusement parks, it's more like a strenuous job.
Like a line to access a Disney ride
Bro if I saw a line like Disney world at Everest I'd just leave like it's not exclusive anymore
That's funny because there's a ride in Disney called Everest about the yeti
Nepal is a poor country. I'm not going to point a guilty finger at them for not turning down the 10s of thousands of dollars that foreigners wave at them every year.
If 1996 taught us anything, it is that you are pretty much on your own and at the mercy of the mountain... which, in the end, is not very merciful.
Nepal is poor as well😂
@@sharonmontano4924
Fixed. Thanks. 🫠
Makes it sound like he’s the victim - he’s not a victim, he’s a knowing participant in the over-crowding.
Just what I was thinking.
Sure, because he knows exactly how many climbers have been permitted that year and better yet, he knows exactly how many will be on the mountain with him when he was to ascend. What a ridiculous statement you made!
@@parisite99 everybody who climbs Everest knows that it’s been overcrowded for years. Everybody has seen pictures going back several years of people stuck in a line on the way to the summit. Everybody knows there’s a risk of dying from multiple causes just by being stuck in the line at high altitude. Everybody knows avalanches can happen. He’s part of the problem by contributing to the overcrowding. Yet, people do it anyway because they think taking those risks makes it sexy, fun, more challenging, etc. you are defending the stupidity. An easy solution is for Nepal to auction off the permits and stop at a certain number, so only a very small group of the wealthiest climbers can risk their lives and their Sherpa lives, and fewer lives would be lost, and there’d be no financial negative impacts b/c if the higher fee for the permit. Problem solved. You’re welcome.
@@RC-qf3mp So it’s Nepal’s fault than. Place the blame appropriately! You just said so yourself. I never claimed it wasn’t crowded, I made the claim that your comment was stupid! I stand by that claim.
@@parisite99 it’s possible for there to be multiple causes and parties that could’ve prevented it. But when dealing with adults, with lots and lots of money, who are not mentally disabled or senile, then those parties are SOLELY to blame for their deaths after putting themselves at extraordinary risk to inflate their egos. Literally everybody on that mountain that day knew that Everest has gotten overcrowded and that overcrowding leads to many risks and those risks can lead to their own deaths and the deaths of others. Which part of that don’t you understand? We can also blame global warming and gravity…but that’s not the point here. The point is this a grown man who contributed to the very overcrowding that killed himself. Like a drunk driver … his actions were totally reckless. It’s not surprising when drunk drivers kill other people or themselves.
I honestly feel no sympathy whatsoever for the climbers that die on Everest.
For the rich tourist types that crowd the mountain anyway, it breaks my heart when the heroic sherpas are lost though.
I cannot agree with you more! These people risk their lives just to climb a big rock that overlooks other big rocks lol
Because when you think about it, that’s exactly what it boils down to.
I have no sympathy for anybody that risks their lives for no other reason than to boast.
@@Justice-ef9sk I completely understand why they do it and I greatly admire the true mountaineers or any other extreme sportsman.
It's the idiots with more money than sense that do it just to boast and completely relying on sherpas and porters to drag them to the top and save them when their naivety nearly gets them killed.
@@Justice-ef9sk I 100% agree..
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Or on K2, or any other 8k meter mtn. If God wanted man to climb at these height he would have given us bigger lungs
Shut it down for couple years, to clean it up😮
or pile up more trash so the mountain is taller
It's a cash cow....
@@kenneth9874 cash cow= dead 💀 dead bodies
They won't shut it down it's a good source of income for the Nepalese Government.
@@jonathanlake6053 Then with the trash and 💀 death, the over crowd line at the top. People will decide to stop coming and climb 🧗♀️ other mountains that are cleaner
Well, that's ONE way I ain't going to die.
lol
Same, haha 😅
Not that, not caving and, sure as hell, not cave diving. No, thanks.
They angered the mountain by trashing it. Those jerks litter and destroy it for their own selfish desires with zero respect. It's a trash dump now.
Calm down, Everest his HUGE, there are a few areas on the guided routes that need cleaning up, but 95% of it is fine.. Maybe the government would make stronger rules about refuse? or enforce the ones they already have. hAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON A BIG MOUNTAIN?
An angry mountain...eh?? We are going back into paganism - so bizarre....modern people have no decency and no morals... just paganism and satanism now-a-days. More concerned about people littering, climbing up a grubby mountain than they are about the abuse and neglect of children - get your priorities right....
I agree Jason, it’s a disgrace.
The mountain is a rock, it has no emotions. People of means, love to visit beautiful but backwards, moronic countries, you know, countries that think rocks are Gods that get angry.
It's always "blame the government" when we all know good and damn well that EVERY climber there knew exactly how crowded it is.
Exactly. And expecting the government of Nepal, with all the issues they have, to give up revenues to protect some rich tourists from themselves is ... special.
The government is entirely to blame. A lot of stupid people trying to blame the customer over the dealer here.
@@alexm2873 Exactly who is forcing anyone to climb a mountain?
listen i get what you're saying, but it's safe to say both are to blame here. people should do more research before deciding to do anything, secondly too many have this mindset that they are different, it will be different for /them/ and therefo they couldn't possibly be harmed or do harm.
but the government is also at fault for they have the power to shut these companies down due to fatal negligence and no one in their right mind would blame them. but they haven't nor going to do otherwise they lose out a very large amount of money and revenue. for all they care is "they signed a consent form-" it's tragic truly.
That's a great point
Only people worth sympathy are the sherpas and guides.
Yeah. Feel the love. Spread the love.
The guides who are a part of the companies are part of the greed.
Stay on your couch
The sherpas and guides are the only people up there who know exactly what they are going to experience.
i also hate everyone who isnt me
Successful business owner goes missing and his partner starts a GoFundMe - I feel bad for the Sherpa.
Dumb yuppies, who cares...
How is she going to pay for her botox???? The sherpa is not even mentioned in that GoFundMe page, selfish much????
@@prozac20mg I don't the sherpa got him killed
@prozac20mg that's misogyny stop it now.
@@sabrinarodrigues629 freedom of speech ya know
I don't know about you , but I would feel pretty stupid, to turn up to mt. Everest and find hundreds of people queuing up to summit, especially after all the training, planning and money invested in it...
And yes, you would deserve to feel like that because it has been an overcrowded filthy disaster for decades now....no secret.
6664 people have successfully climbed Everest. It's no big deal anymore.
Arrogance, stupidity, and disregard for safety. Let alone the disgusting garbage let behind...
These people just disrespect nature.
Selfishness.
I guess on the bright side, they put a lot of foreign $ into Nepalese gov't that hopefully helps the Nepalese people
And life itself.
German filmmaker Werner Herzog once called mountaineering one of humanity's cardinal sins because it robs the mountains of their dignity. These images bear him out.
Mountains have dignity? Mountains are inanimate objects. The earth is 4.5 billion years old. It has experienced 5 world wide catastrophic events. It's only a matter of time until the next one occurs and leaves absolutely zero trace of our existence. We are of no significance and no threat to this planet. Only to ourselves and our existence on this planet.
😂 it's a mountain calm down
@@apotbos Exactly, if we humans can't pollute the Earth whenever we feel like it, then what is it for?
Herzog just isnt that deep. he says whatevr will sell the film.
Herzog says a Lot of things, doesn't make it so every-time..
I'm a Fan of His too,but He can be a bit too dramatic at times..
I feel bad for the Sherpas, but I don't care about the rich thrill-seeking climbers though, they knew the risks.
Sherpas know the risk, they like the big money - it's their living. Mind your business.
@@ladybug591 You should read more. Sherpas do it because it allows them to feed their families, there aren't a lot of other jobs available to them and their government has become so dependent on the money the tourism and licensing provisioning brings in that their economy is slowly being funded primarily by Mt. Everest tourism.
Well the Sherpas know the risk too.
@@stt5v2002 So do the people who work in coal mines and in sweatshops. It's not that they don't know that it's dangerous, but that it's the only option they have available to them to support their families.
An extremely large portion of the people and the government itself is dependent on the revenue that tourism to Mt. Everest brings in, even if it's killing them and poisoning the land itself.
@@darius5066 the government should fix that then. its not really the tourists fault or responsibility to avoid going somewhere that literally encourages people to go there...
I’m not risking my life just to climb a mountain. I get enough adrenaline just living in this shitty, evil world.
Climbing a mountain is less miserable, though.
@@frogperson883 Clearly not a mountaineer. Many of them suffer depression.
Let’s face it, it’s more dangerous to drive in to a city than it is to climb Everest anyway🤷♀️
What would you take risks for? anything?
Agree
Too much money+ too much hubris= Darwin award. Really sad.
More money than brains...
The root of all evil
darwin awards arent sad, theyre funny
@@will.green.exactly. Like problems solving themselves.
and prideful morons! Pride is the deadliest sin!
Raise money by blowing 100k on an Everest expedition. Makes perfect sense. How much did he expect to raise?
You mean she? She ran a gofundme not him!
@@njmommy609 He dead.
Unless he can raise from the dead, he won't raise much.
@@njmommy609 his goal was to raise money for the family of a gym member who died of cancer 5:00
Better than blowing it on hookers and cocaine.
Spending 100,000 Pounds to stand on a rock? Shaking my head.
If you need handholding to climb Everest, you don’t need to be on Everest.
Just my opinion, but I watched a video where several hikers climbed up to the mountain villages. They were able to stay in the hospices that are available,and eat the local foods. They did not have the pressure or dangers of the Death Zone. If more hikers would just visit the villages, it would financially help the local people.
When I want to be surrounded by trash, human feces, crowds, noise and danger, I visit San Francisco.
And don’t forget overpaying for everything.
That's sooo sad to hear.
I have the same problem visiting New Orleans!
@@stevemorris6790🤣🤣🤣🤣
Or any parts of Indian.
Standing in a queue on the path to the summit shows how ridiculous this climb has become.
At this point the ONLY reason people should be going there for is to clean up the mess they left behind, then give it a rest for a couple years..
Amen
I will never understand this stupidity
Thank you! I agree.
These people literally risk their lives just to climb a big rock… To look at the view of other big rocks lol
Because that’s exactly what it boils down to.
They are well aware of the serious risks, and they do it anyway.
Anybody that climbs Mount Everest is a fool.
@@Justice-ef9sk indeed I think the same
Everest has become a vanity item for millionaires.
The irony of these rich, powerful, "elite" climbers, with their expensive equipment and training, lining up and elbowing their way to the cold, barren top of the world, only to perish. Crabs in a bucket, no matter where you go. Except we leave trash.
Hate to break it to you but these are not "elite" climbers, if fact that's kinda what the videos about, most of these do not have enough experience to climb Everest (even with guides)
@@mpreiss7780I believe they meant wealthy in the usage of elite
@@Cheshire3Cat21 Ahh, probably
We're even trashing the roof of the world. Wow, humans!
And the deepest parts of the oceans too
I just cannot stop shaking my head seeing this people's stupidity 😮😮
You need a doctor b4 yr head falls off
Climbing under those conditions is insane. Stop the insanity.
yeah, go do an untraveled route where you have to rely of yourself.
@@mpreiss7780you dont seem to say anything about the trash they leave behind, if you dont want people to dislike this then work harder to hold your fellow mountaineers accountable for the disrespect and trash they leave behind instead of getting defensive on every comment.
@@gokuformanvsfood I agree the trash should be cleaned up and all future climbers should be held responsible for taking the trash out with them. No arguments there, Just do not like when people try and tell other people how to live their life and criticize something they have no idea about.
People call Stockton Rush's customers idiots for going on what became their final journey, try these mongs on for size, spending 120 K to freeze to death or fall to your death or suffocate! That's the definition of idiotic.
You should try and not be so simple minded.
I never understood the impulse to climb a mountain. Just don't get it.
@@jeanmccallum-xs8rk And I'm sure you never will.
@@mpreiss7780 Close minded people tends to live longer.
@@jeanmccallum-xs8rk Its demonic, risking ones life in such a manner. Incredibly demonic.
Ever heard a person on holiday unironically look around and sigh - 'Too many tourists here nowadays' 😂😂😂
'no one goes there anymore... it's too crowded.'
Pack it in, pack it out. It is disgusting what has happened to a once pristine area. Proud of what you have accomplished, I would be ashamed.
Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints
It’s obscene.
Worry about what is happening in your own cities, filth, drugs, neglected and abused children....mind your own business and clean your room.
They should close it completely until it's properly cleaned up.
What about all of that lubbly jubbly cash income?
Yes, that would be great, but the government of Nepal wants that money those climbers bring in.
The days of respecting nature have gone, leaving our most beautiful earth covered in trash.
I’m so sad, and disappointed in my fellow human beings.
seriously... what "authorities" are we looking to act here? do people need some greater authority than themselves tell them to use some sense? No one is pushing any one of these people in line... they are 100% fully informed of this crowding, they are 100% selfish, 100% willing to die for this, and 100% unwilling to yield.
who in their right mind feels sorry for _any_ of them? This is 100% self-inflicted.
Course. They’re there because they can be. Screw everyone and everything. If only ten permits were issued they’d just pay more to get them.
doesnt count as a successful summit if you fall off.... thats cheating
No short cuts allowed! 😂😂
Something to talk about for the rest of your life...all two hours of it.
This is so tragic. The region needs the revenue, the sherpas need the income, but the trash these thrill-seekers leave behind is abhorrent. I saw somewhere a while back that one group only tipped their sherpa what equated to $2 in U.S currency. Just disgraceful. 😢
im sure you dont make any trash
Nothing "thrill seeking" in putting one foot in front of the other for 12 hours.
@@mpreiss7780
I mean climbing a mountain is thrilling especially Everest the literal peak of it. But this is absolutely disgusting
@@will.green.difference between making trash and littering on a mountain
Authorities are not responsible for people's stupidity.
All that money too brag, why not help someone who needs it?
who's bragging? so any extra money you do not absolutely need, gets given to someone who needs it? ok sure
Who are you to tell people what to do with the money they most likely earned through smart and hard work? Making them feel guilty by pursuing something that most people wouldn't be able to afford. Should they just give everything away and live a standard life even though they have non-standard abilities and income?
That's the longest line of idiots I've seen waiting for the Darwin award.
$50K to stand in a freezing cold conga line, with poop in my pants, sure sounds like an adventure that will impress my friends.
Gotta love that 20 below too.
It's like Stockton Rush x500 when you look at that traffic jam. Hubris and ego=death.
RIP STOCKTON "BIG BALLS" RUSH.
@@brandonsavitski So, no Hubris and ego=everlasting life?
I remember doing a "lecture" in high school about the human waste pollution of base camp of Mt Everest and the issues of mass tourism there based on some news articles available then. That was 40 years ago
The world's tallest graveyard
When my parents climbed Everest, they complained about the tacky stuff being sold in the gift shop at the top.
I think Mount Everest should be declared a closed national park where only very few researchers may be allowed to enter for scientific purposes, but that's it.
Won’t happen. Do you know how much ca$h this mountain generates? People are literally dying to pay to go there lol
4 fell 2 climbed back up. It makes sense that the shelf collapsed due to weight.
2 were attached to the rope.
RIP to them both, but every single person that takes on the climb knows full well there's a decent chance they could die and they accept that risk.
Once you sign up, it's your death wish. If you return safe, that's a luck and not because of your ability. There is places on earth humans are not belongs to and Everest is one of them besides K2. Do not blame anyone but it's the climber responsibility themselves.
Very much enjoyed this documentary. And you have a nice voice. Thanks.
It's amazing the lack of respect every one of these people have for the environment. They have a massive problem with pollution, human waste in particular out there
Well when you gotta go you gotta go. And who wants to carry that stuff on the way down?
It’s like the new Disneyland now. Gone are the days of glory.
Its a Very Physically and Mentally Challenging Feat.
AND NO LONGER IMPRESSIVE AND NO LONGER COOL!.
In fact it hasn't been cool for 10 years or longer
The stigma around it is a Bunch of Wealthy People with too much time on their hands.
When I think of Everest I think of the Sherpa who took it upon himself to put someone on their back and carry them down the mountain. The sherpa who risked their life disnt even get a Thank You. Instead the Climber Thanked their "Team" instead
The mountain has been "Conquered" thousands of times and was probably conquered for hundreds of years prior by The Sherpa People but they don't get the credit
Is it fair to judge All Climbers this way?. Probably not but the only news about Everest that the General Public get (Thats me) is bad news and bad behavior
If someone told Me
They just climbed Everest im not going to be impressed.
It carries a Stigma now rather than a sense of human accomplishment
Agreed. Congrats, you paid a ton of money, waited in a long line, and contributed to the heaps of trash filling up the mountain. Super cool 🤡
Yes!
You're entirely correct but if you've ever summitted a tall mountain then you know the unique sense of achievement that comes with it. He went in with his eyes open.
@@drumhaver223i never have Summited anything. And I don't doubt that those whon have a Sense of Achievement however so does juiced out dude in the Gym who benches 405.
Like I said the new Stigma may not be fair or atleast not fair to everyone (probably not fair to most). The bad ones are the ones that make the most noise.
Its just climbing Everest does not carry the same weight as it used to. Not even close. To the general Public it has become kind of a Bad thing. Hence the Stigma.
@@cliffhass9158 Fair enough.
So why not limit the number of climbers, you ask? Who do you think regulates the expeditions? Charging $30,000 - $120,000 per climber is just too lucrative for the Nepalese government. Nothing will change.
The Nepalese government is not charging that. That’s what the total cost is paid to one of the guide companies. The Nepal government gets a small portion of that. They only make around 5 MM USD each year. It’s peanuts. They need to Jack up the fees and allow less people.
@@jasong.5165 $5 million is huge money to an impoverished country like Nepal.
@@paulgrey8028 lol. No. It is not. They spend a lot of that 5 mill on the issuing of those permits. So the net back to their coffers is minimal. Their total budget for 2022-23 was 14.7 Billion USD.
They need to pass a law to make each hiker bring back a fraction of their weight in trash from Everest. Make them pay a $100K trash deposit. When they return with trash, they get their deposit back.
standing in a line.. really a one of a lifetime experience
Situation has degenerated to the point of being ridiculous! No sympathy for any of them. It's partaking in an ecological atrocity.
There are thirty mountains in Nepal that are each above 7km high, and six of them above 8km high including Everest.
It would be a massive achievement to climb any of these for someone visiting Nepal.
Sounds slightly similar to Snowdonia in Wales. Lots of 900m/3000ft peaks around with amazing views and technical walks but people queue up on Snowdon. I’m happy that they do however, as I can explore the others in peace. Never going back to Snowdon it’s ghastly now.
I don't see The point of paying tens of thousands of dollars to risk my life to haul my trash up to Mount Everest in a traffic jam when I can just put it in the trash can here and the trash company will come haul it away to the dump.
Seeing the lines of climbers have made Everest a punch-line. And to think there was a time when two brave men (Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay) made history by being the first to summit Everest in 1953.
I honestly can't even see the appeal of climbing anymore with crowds added to the already extreme conditions. I would not make the climb, even if my way was completely paid for me.
The fact that people are bringing their children...and toddlers is mind blowing. I just don't get it. Millions of mountains go climb them.
Yes, and millions of mountains that aren’t the highest in the world, genius.
That such sheer ambition seems to be lost on so many people is nothing short of depressing to me. You all would rather comfortably ferment in your own juices your whole life instead of taking a risk to achieve something of greatness.
A whole society of people driven by comfort and hedonism.
@Icetea-2000 I don't see this as greatness in any way shape or form. It takes zero skill. They pay for the people to do the actual work. Climbing it is not impressive in any way. You want to be ambitious? Cure cancer. Adopt an orphanage. Rescue dogs. Solve world hunger. Climbing a stupid mountain is just that, stupid.
@@Icetea-2000 it's rich out of touch people paying others to work for them, so... the same as everywhere else, just on top of a big rock. How ambitious!
@@robingalbraith323 ZERO SKILL??? No, you do the work yourself. Wtf do you think others do, carry them up there? No, they ascend the mountain on their own.
It’s an immense physical feat to climb Mount Everest, yet people here act like having a guide means you essentially took an elevator up there, completely ridiculous, and shows a complete lack of knowledge on the matter.
Go climb an actual mountain and come back.
@@nyanchat2657 The comment above applies to you all the same, no one works for anyone when climbing up a mountain, you’re all working your own body up it.
You’re all out of touch with what mountain climbing even is is the reality.
I wish that adventure athletes into mountaineering, spelunking and other extremely dangerous sports would pause and ask if other risky ambitions would serve their enthusiasm, and better serve their life expectancy, as well. Aid work in conflict zones? Medical team stints in impoverished rural countries?
I joined such a team heading to Iraq in 2008, and it accomplished many goals--addressed my curiosity about the myths and realities of armed conflict, fulfilled my desire to support the wounded, and enhanced my ability to speak with first-hand authority about the situation upon our return home. And I wrote several articles stemming from the experience, one of which won a venerable journalism award.
So yes--there are somewhat safer, far more humanitarian ways to pursue intense adventure today, without leaving your loved ones grieving forever, never even seeing or burying your battered body.
Instead of subduing the world, ensuring your gearprints are dug into it, while your life is maybe exited early from it, imagine the world with some good, selfless work gracing it, and you still here, with us, to proudly share it.
Well said!
All they'd really have to do to manage Everest in one go is strictly enforce the hiker's rule that you pack out everything you pack in.
Works like a dog park. Nobody ever notices when their dog does its business.
How though? I think they need to close the whole area and let it recover.
@@suetrublu it won’t recover, that junk will be there forever.
As long as Everest is a major income source for the Nepalese govt. and the local citizens, they will never take any measures to jeopardize the climbing industry surrounding it. All nations, especially advanced ones, should come up with incentives in the form of financial reimbursement and economic assistance to minimize the negative impact of mountaineering tourism on Everest. In the end, Everest and the environment is a global issue and not a local one that should concern all of us.
Everest used to be the pinnacle of mountaineering. Now you have 80-year-old tourists, wanting to break a nation/ gender/ age record, pretty much holding a handrail to the top.
And leaving all kinds of $hit (literally) at the mountain. If there was a god ....
My father used to walk to school as a boy in NZ with Edmund Hilary .. dear Edmund would be turning in his grave 😢
Why did Hilary walk up that big hill anyway? We know the answer: to brag for the rest of his days. No better than his successors.
he would indeed. His climbing instructor was my father. These were men who climbed mountains and didn't have fixed ropes to pull themselves up with. All those queues of people are damaging the mountain.
I wonder if being a "skilled mountaineer" includes making sound decisions, for example not to wait in a line in the death zone for hours, or unclip from a safety line just to get up and down faster. If you are taking the mountain and the death risks seriously, you have to be prepared to make the reasonable decision and say "this is ridiculous, I will look for a less crowded mountain to summit, fuck Everest". So by this line of thinking, they were not so great experienced climbers after all.
Many more will die being arrogant...thinking they can combat the elements.
And many more people will die just being stupid or useless
@mpreiss7780 Yes...that's right ! We are also mountain ⛷️🏂🏼people ! 🤍
Nepal should raise the cost to climb even higher. Say, 300k. They would collect same amount of money but there will be 10 times fewer people on the mountain
Those lines going to the peak are unbelievable... how sad and tragic.
This keeps getting worse every year...
When will we learn...🤦♀️🤷♀️
RIDICULOUS!!
Ridiculous ! There are more People on the Everest than on a mediterranean beach in Summer !
He bought his ticket, he took his ride. I don't feel a thing for the guy. I don't think it is awful, or a tragedy, or significant in any way, and certainly don't think anyone, or any government is in any way liable. Stupid is, as Stupid does.
That picture showing that line of people climbing is ridiculous!
This has been an issue for so long that it is doubtful any government regulation will be what is required to prevent these ongoing tragedies. It will require a fundamental shift in the attitude of what it means to summit Everest. An achievement that should bring shame rather than glory.