During the wedding sequence, Mike, Nick and Steve meet the Green Beret in the bar. When they expect to be John Wayne or Audie Murphy when they get to Nam and the veteran says to them, "Fu*k it!" The veteran was telling them "Just wait till you get there."
This is one of the greatest films ever made. Robert De Niro is at his best in this movie. The story is gold, the acting is spot on, the drama is well done, and the ending is classic and sad.
Yes it's still to this day very powerful! And especially to me cuz this was my dad and uncles story. Dad passed from.Agen Orange uncle still here but no kids he was afraid cuz his buddies kids came out all fucked up. Still gets bumps on his back that have to be carved out every 2 to 3 years. The size of silver dollar. U cant know the pain I have every time I see him with his 101 AIRBORNE hat on and he has a big olsmile on his face. Hes Happy to be alive. Still wakes up in his sleep and patrols the house. Pisses in the corner while my beloved aunt holds the bucket. These are the reminders of war and what it does to a young but strong TEENAGER!
Love how abrupt the Vietnam sequence just comes in and interrupts the working class town story that made up the first half of the film. It really helps to emphasize how this was a war that no one who fought in it was prepared for what they were about to embark upon.
@@0200071 However well-directed Year of the Dragon was, and I really liked Mickey Rourke in it -- the story was pedestrian. It would have benefited if Year of the Dragon took more risks, like killing Stanley White midway (cause sometimes, making a heroic stand against the Triads doesn't mean you get to live) and putting the focus on Tracy instead.
He also made some really awful movies. The Sicilian and Heaven's Gate are two of the worst movies I've ever seen. They're both so bad they're laughable. Enough time has passed that the flaws in this movie can be seen -- shooting in the Cascades for a Pennsylvania location seems ridiculous for the deer hunting scenes. There are some overly-sentimental cliches. But in this one he did come up with his most powerful and enduring stuff.
Yup, same. About 13 when I saw it in the theater. Harrowing is right! That flame thrower scene! The high pitched scream from Charlie burning to death. Reminds me of cockpit voice recording I heard. The flight crew of a doomed airliner in their last 1.2 seconds of life. Shredded and burned to death. Thats a sound you don't forget easily. Also, the scene they don't show here. Those guys squirming around inside those bamboo river cages, struggling to keep their heads above the water, rats crawling all over them, yipes.
I think i got whats happening in this scene, by the presence of the special forces team in the village i guess they were working and helping this people (green berets did that a lot in Vietnam, and it still part of their mission until now days). The NVA attacked the village and they asked for support and that's where the airborne boys showed up
Or they got called into rescue there green beret team cause they where always in small groups cause at the beginning he’s the only one the other dudes are dead? But I agree with you would could both be right?
Its probably a lot like Col Kurtz story in Apocalypse Now. He went to a village to innoculate the children for polio and the NVA/NLF soldiers came through and chopped the arms off the children for taking aid from the enemy.
when you see that scene right there, the intro to when they are in Vietnam, it's totally nuts. Nothing that happens in the beginning of the movie can prepare you for that scene right there
Since there are so many people complaining about this confusing scene, here's my take on it: the village is in South Vietnam, probably close to Laos or Cambodia, and closely aligned with the US; the NVA/VC orders an attack on the village/area, and the Special Forces (De Niro's) barely contain them, suffering many casualties; so high command orders (coldly) the destruction of the village 0:02; a re-regard VC (or NVA? can't know for sure) kills south Vietnamese civilians to make an example, I guess 0:42 ("this is what happens to friends of the Americans"), but a wounded De Niro offs him 1:35 rather dramatically; regular reinforcements arrive 2:03 way too late and the 3 old pals (unrealistically) are reunited before being captured by the second wave of the NVA/VC attack 3:03. The POW camp was probably inside Laos or Cambodia, and led by a corrupt NVA officer and several VC scumbags...
He is so fucked up in the head from what he has seen and been through already. This film is a good example of why we have to take better care of our veterans. I've never served but I know war is no fucking joke.
@@fernieu3537 Mine too. The less 'decade-specific' quirks a film has, and the more true-to-life things appear on screen, the more timeless a movie will look aging like fine wine.
I still wondered how the got captured, but looking at Deniro, I believe his character was a member of SOG and looks like their unit may have been almost wiped down to him
@@TheTurk56523 Ok, but why did the choppers just leave men there and vanish? Why did nobody call them again and say they were being surrounded or something?
I guess De Niro was considered for the part of First Blood. It we would've done that it almost could've been like like a spiritual sequel to the Deer Hunter. I suppose at that time De Niro got sick of playing disturbed Vietnam vets.
good comment; Stallone in his prime (1976-1981) was nearly up there with De Niro; in fact, the parallels are stunning (Rocky/Raging Bull, First Blood/Deer Hunter). But then Sly took the easy route while De Niro kept appearing in serious roles for most of the '80s and '90s.
Yes. By the time Deer Hunter was released, the Vietnam war was already over, and Saigon was renamed "Ho Chi Minh" city in honour of their communist leader. And although the war scenes you see here are heavily dramatized -- like the Russian Roulette is just an idea that's lifted from a gambling story not even about the war -- it still serves as an indictment of the insane madness and social upheaval under communist revolution. Commie-supporters literally ate their own people if they didn't bow down, and that's why you see the soldier blow up an entire family hiding. The Vietnam war felt senseless up-close and many hippies protested it, but it was a fight against the very real danger of spreading Communist ideology; an ideology which brought entire countries to misery and terror. Have you seen the portrait of Ho Chi Minh sitting behind De Niro's character in the roulette? That's probably what incensed the Vietnamese government the most.
@@QDesjardin04 I’ve read accounts and watched a lot of Vietnam War veteran interviews. I would politely disagree that the carnage seen in this clip is “heavily dramatized”.
@@QDesjardin04 I would also politely disagree this was a “fight against the very real danger of spreading Communist ideology.” That’s long since been disproven. It was disproved DURING THE WAR. This was about money.
@@QDesjardin04 Okay well let’s add a little more historical context here: Ho Chi Minh actually had popular support of the Vietnamese people on the 1950s, but the CIA prevented a peaceful, democratic unification of the country because they knew he would win any election. So the US installed a puppet government in the South that was despised and brutally tortured and killed thousands of suspected communists. Also Ho Chi Minh wasn’t really aligned with the USSR or Stalinism. They had their own brand that was more like “Ho Chi Minh-ish”. The Vietnamese were never tied to or trying to spread monolithic global communism, it was about seeking independence from European and American influence,
@@jonathanbirch2022I've heard that claim many times before by Communist apologists, but they never really go into details about how the CIA, an American intelligence agency, managed to single handedly prevent a popular unification of Vietnam, all without telling anyone. No specific events, nothing but broad and anecdotal references. Furthermore, the myth that Ho Chi Minh wasn't "that" kind of Communist always seemed silly. Dude was involved in Russian communism in the USSR since the early '20s. He was a devoted and fundamental Communist, not some tragic nationalist freedom fighter that adopted Communism after being refused support by the US. Under his regime North Vietnamese society was radically and violently transformed according to his Marxist workd-view. There is no such thing as a "moderate" Communist. Communism is fundamentally about completely destroying all current social institutions and replacing them according to Marxist-Leninist thought.
Should have let him burn for what he did to that family and that mother and her baby. Shooting him dead soon after blazing him was a completely unnecessary act of mercy... God this movie still so great but it's so damn hard to watch at the same time...
I always wondered how they got captured it felt kinda jolting for them to just appear in a POW encampment after seemingly being perfectly fine from the bombings seconds earlier.
Does anyone know who the two stunt guys were hanging onto the skids of the Huey as it goes over Mike,Nick and Steve? Truly awesome shot especially when seen in the cinema on the big screen. Plus does anyone know if they were supposed to be US soldiers having no choice but to hold on during a desperate evacuation or captured Vietnamese soldiers/VC?
They were supposed to be rescued US or ARVN soldiers, as Mike Steve and Nick are rescued in a similar manner. Don't know why no one on the huey bothered to bring any rope, though.
Great movie I was 10 when I saw this and the Boys from Company C on Select Tv. A few years before I saw a kid who fell from wooden railing from a 25 foot stage at a festival! My buddies and I were right Infront of him telling him to get down!!!!! He said watch this I started screaming but it was to late. The boy fell off the railing in to the rocks below his head hitting a big rock the back of his head cracked open like a egg!! Brain and skull with blood every were. My grandfather a retried Milwaukee Police Officer raped a towel around his head. The Ambulance crew were there to helping to take the boy to St. Luke's Hospital. I can still see that poor boy's head and his blue eyes stairng into the heavens above! My Gunnery Sgt. Told me waite till you put more years on boy. My FTO told me that on the Police Force. I still see that boy it never goes away! That was a drip in a bucket I guess! Great movie for 5 min of action and 30 min in the prison camp!
I wonder why Cimino or the editor felt they had to insert stock footage at 2:11 -- maybe they didn't get a long enough shot of people getting out of the helicopter. But to this day it still seems like an odd thing and the difference in quality jumps out.
If you look at :34-:35. When the NVA soldier is running across the screen. In the bushes right behind him. It appears to be another NVA soldier that we see just for a brief moment. The head of the soldier. So, could someone else be at the edge of the village watching?
@72shmoe Probably, I couldn't see the soldier you were talking about, but maybe I'm just not quick enough. Anyway, just before he shoots the woman with the baby, he gives a signal to someone pretty far off. I would have said that was a sign for the rest of his unit in the treeline to begin moving out.
Man this was random af lol. SF in the village. Villages gets blown to shi. Then airbourne comes in and drops off all of 2-3 soldiers....then they get captured
Interesting to see a movie which shows NV killing civilians. Movies always make it seem like the U.S. was the only faction in the war to commit such things
Yep this was an awesome movie although I must say folks that I never looked at as a combat movie the ones the were combat were Platoon, Hamburger Hill, Full Metal Jacket and Saving Private Ryan. Deer Hunter was more similar to Coming Home
Never was intended to be a war film. It is a drama about relationships, family and friendship. I just saw here a clip of the director saying what i just wrote.
Exactly! This scene hurt the film badly. It’s the only scene that does not fit in or is a great one. He used a mini clip of real nam footage and nobody knows why. Then just a couple of soldiers get off the choppa 😂 and expect to do what? Armed with m-16’s and nada more. Then the helos vanish. Stupid ass “combat” scene!
@@iliafigueroa4820the squad was to retrieve what was left of Mike's squad, but I believe they were taking in to much fire so thye had to leave, ending up in Mike's capture
The ESPN people wouldn't be there,too busy making cute quips,adjusting there makeup,checking on their assets .. .the ESPN people would have avoided it at all costs.....all costs....absolutely would have grasped at every maneuver to avoid it....
That exactly what my dad and uncle wiment through pound for pound. 2 home town boys captured then got out to SA Orange County CA. Rip dad Angent Orange
Touching image of the PAVN soldier opening the hatch to help the people, but something is not right here. Actually, this is the scene where the Vietnam People's Army soldier throws a baseball grenade into a civilian cellar in the Hollywood movie The Deer Hunter (1978) made 3 years after the Vietnam War, this is a distortion in this movie. second only to QGP guerrillas playing Russian Roulett We didnt do that in war!!!
im confused, can somebody explain me. American helicopters attack a village with napalm controlled by the communist NVA yet the NVA soldier attacks the civilians he was protecting?
very roughly speaking, green berets (deniro) lived with and trained locals or south vietnamese troops (burnt guys he was laying on) to protect the surrounding villages from north vietnamese or viet cong (local or insurgent communist militias) who would take the villagers harvest and young males to press into service, if a village was co-operating with the south vietnamese government (or their US advisors/troops), sometimes the north vietnamese government would send in regular north vietnamese soldiers to attack the nearby villages to draw out the US and south vietnamese troops, or they would attack the US/south vietnamese base (which was often beside a village or within a few kms of a few villages)... when attacked, the green berets would call in an air support , sometimes on their own positions if they were over run, as they were usually a small team of men with a local contingent (around company size), where as the NVA tended to attack in regiment size formations... hope thois helps (again its very rough description and only from the south vietnamese/US perspective)
The choppas 😂 did not bomb. They are rockets. See the white smoke coming out of the helo at the start and then the explosions and then we see the helo hovering over us and has rocket pods.
@@umenhuman7573 Incorrect in some parts... Those were not svietnamese, that was part of his team. All dead. Also, it looks like he was just there resting exhausted and his team dead and was maybe passing through after a mission or someting similar...
Seems this village was still not in control of the baddies. Nva regular killed villagers because we are supposed to assume that they were pro-usa or pro-svietnam. Badly done scene in that...
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That thing always happens in every communist revolution, including the unification of society. anyone who rejects communism will be killed. a lot happened in countries with successful communist revolutions such as Russia before the Soviet Union, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, etc. only in Indonesia, which failed and even then had civil wars several times, including the last one being the massacre of communist sympathizers when the last Communist coup failed in 1965.
Yeah not really sure about that. Maybe they were south vietnamese? So he didn't care? Or he killed them because they were hiding in a VC ammo cache and would have told the U.S soldiers where others were? Idk
@@mattyice2099Nothing to do with them being south. He probably learned that they were cooperating with the Americans or the madness of war drove him to commit such an act. Maybe he wasn't even aware, he thought it was US soldiers that the fragged. Who knows, Vietnam war was utter hell.
@@donalonzo63 That's true, the OSS Deer Team provided training and aid to the Viet Minh in their early days. Pretty sure one of the doctors provided medical aid to a very sick Ho Chi Minh. America has a tendency to create their own problems.
@@ChongiFishing 20 years to the day that Bush gave a pre invasion of Iraq speech. Wonder what would have happened if the Mongolian president rocked up to the white house with an aid package today.
@@donalonzo63 The Vietnamese were not Kosher Bolsheviks so their model always leaned more just towards the whole collectivist social experiment more than Communism no matter what Ho claimed. It actually wasnt that awful in the end and should have been left alone. Now the Cambodians? They went full Communism... And everybody knows you never go full Communism
I guarantee you,yer lemon's,yer Southside,yer Alis,yer fox and friends,yer hannity's....there not gonna take that number ....guarantee you....they may like to watch from afar,but they're not gonna pick up that m-16 against their career.....
Was never a big fan of this movie but I do think it's really good at showing the psychological effects of war but this scene is not very good. Also making Mike a MACV SOG dude that just happens to run into his hunting buddies from back home and they all get captured together is ridiculous.
Its a film. A scene to create drama. Entertainment. But probably the Liberation Army killed them because they were helping the Green Berets. It is normal. In Afghanistan, Taliban did the same. The scene it's not far from the truth.
You've misinterpreted the message of the film. It's not a final propagandist cry from the USA to demonise the Vietnamese and exonerate themselves, it's an independently made film using the Vietnam War for about half an hour of context to show the development of a friendship through hardship. This is not pro-war, or pro-American. Anyway, give any Vietnamese person today half a chance, they would immigrate to the US. I wouldn't even put it past you. Did you write your witless comment from your red-flag laden hootch as a portrait of Ho Chi Minh looks down approvingly at you, his visage representing the most expensive item of your worldly possessions. Tôi cảm thấy tiếc cho bạn.
Very unrealistc, the NVA playing the bad guy killing civillians and the US soldiers would just surrender like that after they were just choppered in or when reinforcement was sent in. But overall the story in the movie is good except for this part
It's implied they surrendered or at least lost; they [the Americans] are captured in significant amount as seen in the hootch later. The NVA and LASV did commit reprisal killings against villagers who partook in the Hearts and Minds Campaign, which is the reason for De Niro's character being there (given he's in the Fifth Special Forces Group).
@@andrewmccloud8581 It appears he(and his dead unit) are there after a mission and are exhausted. Nobody is certain he was really assigned or helping that village. Why the heck would he be carrying a flamet???
Its almost like they shot more after the guys reunite and the mortar rounds start coming in...and then cut it and was like oh well they get captured, moving on to the POW camp scenes. Awkward editing.
Seem like everyone has taken it extremely wrong from this scene. The one that killed the the villager wasn't a NVA, they were the south's army as their uniform were yellow and the NVA's was green. They were killing innocent due to the US's order because the US does not want their hands dirty even they also do alot of the massacred themself.
That's definitely a PAVN uniform; you've got it backwards. The helmet is a dead giveaway... ARVN used the M1 from the US, but that guy has an NVA pith helmet.
I got the impression that it was a Vietcong Officer - indicated by the beige uniform and red strikes on his collar, as well as him signalling for the other VC to advance (we know they're VC when we see their dispositions later). They were targeting the village as US Special Forces (De Niro is in the Fifth, here, many of whom tended to be MACV SOG) as a reprisal for them partaking in the "Hearts and Minds Campaign" set up by the US and RVN governments to win over villages.
the tiger striped guys the main actor was laying on at the start are wearing south vietnamese uniform .. the NVA wore uniforms that were light green and also beige coloured,,,,, in hollywood productions, they tend to use the beige uniforms for nva troops so its easier to distinguish who is who
All of you guys are incorrect. Deniro is sf green beret and the rest of his unit is dead. Those are NOT svietnamese. They are clearly americans. The sadist gook IS nvietnamese army regular. Not a vc. The bunch of jerks he signals that come out of the woodwork are vc. Why does an nva order vc militia? To this day nobody knows. It’s called a hollywood mishap!
@@me6271 Well you see the Huey gunships strafe the village then B model Hueys land a squad then after they see De Niro then a few explosions behind them then suddenly they are in a POW camp!? It just doesn’t add up.
@@tihi79 And it also seems that Hueys were dropping bombs,the VC soldier was by himself and he killed a bunker full of his own people,Robert De Niro was asleep in a field and when he woke up he managed to get hold of a handheld flamethrower from somewhere..the film is garbage
Deniro is sf green beret and the rest of his unit is dead. Those are NOT svietnamese. They are clearly americans. The sadist gook IS nvietnamese army regular. Not a vc. The bunch of jerks he signals that come out of the woodwork are vc. Why does an nva order vc militia? To this day nobody knows. It’s called a hollywood mishap.
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During the wedding sequence, Mike, Nick and Steve meet the Green Beret in the bar. When they expect to be John Wayne or Audie Murphy when they get to Nam and the veteran says to them, "Fu*k it!" The veteran was telling them "Just wait till you get there."
Yes, and it gave a brief hint on how their times of joy, determination, and companionship would all change from an instant experience.
This is one of the greatest films ever made. Robert De Niro is at his best in this movie. The story is gold, the acting is spot on, the drama is well done, and the ending is classic and sad.
Yes it's still to this day very powerful! And especially to me cuz this was my dad and uncles story. Dad passed from.Agen Orange uncle still here but no kids he was afraid cuz his buddies kids came out all fucked up. Still gets bumps on his back that have to be carved out every 2 to 3 years. The size of silver dollar. U cant know the pain I have every time I see him with his 101 AIRBORNE hat on and he has a big olsmile on his face. Hes Happy to be alive. Still wakes up in his sleep and patrols the house. Pisses in the corner while my beloved aunt holds the bucket. These are the reminders of war and what it does to a young but strong TEENAGER!
I do not agree because the US has tortured Vietnam
@@hathanhnhung commie
@@elliotjones3098smooth brain
@@FinallyBeatMedicare that's what happens when your trans mom phks the town silly !
Love how abrupt the Vietnam sequence just comes in and interrupts the working class town story that made up the first half of the film. It really helps to emphasize how this was a war that no one who fought in it was prepared for what they were about to embark upon.
Cimino was one hell of a director. He made some very bold and daring movies.
Platoon already did it.
@@AtticTapes14 ??????? Platoon was 7 years later chief
Yeah. How come the michael rourke movie didn't success? Was a good one.
@@0200071 However well-directed Year of the Dragon was, and I really liked Mickey Rourke in it -- the story was pedestrian. It would have benefited if Year of the Dragon took more risks, like killing Stanley White midway (cause sometimes, making a heroic stand against the Triads doesn't mean you get to live) and putting the focus on Tracy instead.
He also made some really awful movies. The Sicilian and Heaven's Gate are two of the worst movies I've ever seen. They're both so bad they're laughable.
Enough time has passed that the flaws in this movie can be seen -- shooting in the Cascades for a Pennsylvania location seems ridiculous for the deer hunting scenes. There are some overly-sentimental cliches. But in this one he did come up with his most powerful and enduring stuff.
Saw this as a kid and could never get over this movie
Saw this just a year ago, and I never got over how harrowing and well-made it is.
Right! I was not allowed to watch it cuz of my dad & uncle they were there & this is there story
@@QDesjardin04 I never seen this movie but man I love Vietnam War Movies and Music in Vietnam War and the Beautiful Jungles I love the color Green
Yup, same. About 13 when I saw it in the theater. Harrowing is right! That flame thrower scene! The high pitched scream from Charlie burning to death.
Reminds me of cockpit voice recording I heard. The flight crew of a doomed airliner in their last 1.2 seconds of life. Shredded and burned to death. Thats a sound you don't forget easily.
Also, the scene they don't show here. Those guys squirming around inside those bamboo river cages, struggling to keep their heads above the water, rats crawling all over them, yipes.
I think i got whats happening in this scene, by the presence of the special forces team in the village i guess they were working and helping this people (green berets did that a lot in Vietnam, and it still part of their mission until now days). The NVA attacked the village and they asked for support and that's where the airborne boys showed up
Or they got called into rescue there green beret team cause they where always in small groups cause at the beginning he’s the only one the other dudes are dead?
But I agree with you would could both be right?
Its probably a lot like Col Kurtz story in Apocalypse Now. He went to a village to innoculate the children for polio and the NVA/NLF soldiers came through and chopped the arms off the children for taking aid from the enemy.
US army helping vietnamese? Ha, what a fucking terrible joke.
@@PhongPham-lt7rr yeah basically, most unrealistic part of apocalypse now was that part of kurtz' story
well said there your right what a great masterpiece of movie by camino
when you see that scene right there, the intro to when they are in Vietnam, it's totally nuts. Nothing that happens in the beginning of the movie can prepare you for that scene right there
Since there are so many people complaining about this confusing scene, here's my take on it: the village is in South Vietnam, probably close to Laos or Cambodia, and closely aligned with the US; the NVA/VC orders an attack on the village/area, and the Special Forces (De Niro's) barely contain them, suffering many casualties; so high command orders (coldly) the destruction of the village 0:02; a re-regard VC (or NVA? can't know for sure) kills south Vietnamese civilians to make an example, I guess 0:42 ("this is what happens to friends of the Americans"), but a wounded De Niro offs him 1:35 rather dramatically; regular reinforcements arrive 2:03 way too late and the 3 old pals (unrealistically) are reunited before being captured by the second wave of the NVA/VC attack 3:03. The POW camp was probably inside Laos or Cambodia, and led by a corrupt NVA officer and several VC scumbags...
What gets me every time is that Michael doesn’t even recognize his friends
He does, but he is so gone beyond at this point that it doesn't matter
Method Acting..........
He is so fucked up in the head from what he has seen and been through already. This film is a good example of why we have to take better care of our veterans. I've never served but I know war is no fucking joke.
Dude was just snapping and had to wake up to fry a sadist gook and was tired! 😂
Pretty intense
Robert de niro looks like a badass in this since
He looks like a badass in every scene in this movie...but a badass with HEART.
Your right on that chief
A badass until he became WOKE.
@@TheTurk56523 Lol! Yuup even Jack Byrnes was bad ass!!
At last! Been waiting for this scene to be uploaded! Now we get to see on RUclips the genius of Cimino making this picture
Thanks for the upload, love this film
Random note: this still looks stunning, like something from the 1990s.
It looks like a 90s movie to me.. Was my initial thought.
I was shocked when I realized its a 78 movie... Insane
@@fernieu3537 Mine too. The less 'decade-specific' quirks a film has, and the more true-to-life things appear on screen, the more timeless a movie will look aging like fine wine.
that's because there was no CGI So instead they used to just blow the whole place up with C4 etc lol. these movies are much better than anything today
Apocalypse Now 1979 🤔
The first half of the movie screams 1970's
1:31 start of a badass moment
Him and the flamethrower should be a gif
This appears to be a widescreen upload. We see a bit more of things that happen. Thanks for sharing this scene.
Is 2:11 - 2:15 an actual clip from Vietnam? Something about it seems unlike any other shot in this sequence
looks like it
It is.. I've seen it in documentaries on the war.
Yeah getting dropped off into a hot LZ
Yes it is.and so the one where the choppers pass on the delta
Correct on that.
One guy has a rarer car-15!
I still wondered how the got captured, but looking at Deniro, I believe his character was a member of SOG and looks like their unit may have been almost wiped down to him
Close enough, he was a green beret. And if you looked at the beret later in the film, he would be in 5th group
@@mrshovelbottom7475 Thats true, however most men of SOG were 5th group guys. But I don't think De Niro's unit in this one are SOG
They were surrounded. The former NVA was waving for his Troops to advance to the village.
@@TheTurk56523
Ok, but why did the choppers just leave men there and vanish?
Why did nobody call them again and say they were being surrounded or something?
He was not part of the macvsog, possibly he was a Ranger, although when he was captured he brought the 101st airborne patch.
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As great as Stallone is in First Blood..... I can so easily picture De Niro as Rambo, too.
I agree. Especially with this movie as an example.
I guess De Niro was considered for the part of First Blood. It we would've done that it almost could've been like like a spiritual sequel to the Deer Hunter. I suppose at that time De Niro got sick of playing disturbed Vietnam vets.
good comment; Stallone in his prime (1976-1981) was nearly up there with De Niro; in fact, the parallels are stunning (Rocky/Raging Bull, First Blood/Deer Hunter). But then Sly took the easy route while De Niro kept appearing in serious roles for most of the '80s and '90s.
I recall that when the movie came out this scene was protested by the Vietnam government in a international forum.
Yes. By the time Deer Hunter was released, the Vietnam war was already over, and Saigon was renamed "Ho Chi Minh" city in honour of their communist leader. And although the war scenes you see here are heavily dramatized -- like the Russian Roulette is just an idea that's lifted from a gambling story not even about the war -- it still serves as an indictment of the insane madness and social upheaval under communist revolution. Commie-supporters literally ate their own people if they didn't bow down, and that's why you see the soldier blow up an entire family hiding.
The Vietnam war felt senseless up-close and many hippies protested it, but it was a fight against the very real danger of spreading Communist ideology; an ideology which brought entire countries to misery and terror.
Have you seen the portrait of Ho Chi Minh sitting behind De Niro's character in the roulette? That's probably what incensed the Vietnamese government the most.
@@QDesjardin04 I’ve read accounts and watched a lot of Vietnam War veteran interviews. I would politely disagree that the carnage seen in this clip is “heavily dramatized”.
@@QDesjardin04 I would also politely disagree this was a “fight against the very real danger of spreading Communist ideology.” That’s long since been disproven. It was disproved DURING THE WAR.
This was about money.
@@QDesjardin04 Okay well let’s add a little more historical context here: Ho Chi Minh actually had popular support of the Vietnamese people on the 1950s, but the CIA prevented a peaceful, democratic unification of the country because they knew he would win any election. So the US installed a puppet government in the South that was despised and brutally tortured and killed thousands of suspected communists. Also Ho Chi Minh wasn’t really aligned with the USSR or Stalinism. They had their own brand that was more like “Ho Chi Minh-ish”. The Vietnamese were never tied to or trying to spread monolithic global communism, it was about seeking independence from European and American influence,
@@jonathanbirch2022I've heard that claim many times before by Communist apologists, but they never really go into details about how the CIA, an American intelligence agency, managed to single handedly prevent a popular unification of Vietnam, all without telling anyone. No specific events, nothing but broad and anecdotal references. Furthermore, the myth that Ho Chi Minh wasn't "that" kind of Communist always seemed silly. Dude was involved in Russian communism in the USSR since the early '20s. He was a devoted and fundamental Communist, not some tragic nationalist freedom fighter that adopted Communism after being refused support by the US. Under his regime North Vietnamese society was radically and violently transformed according to his Marxist workd-view. There is no such thing as a "moderate" Communist. Communism is fundamentally about completely destroying all current social institutions and replacing them according to Marxist-Leninist thought.
It's not about war.its about what
You do 4 your brothers!
three words yet riveting
When i first watched The Deer Hunter, the scene where the NVA Regular screamed in agony gives me a chill, even to this day.
Amazing baddass acting by De Niro!
Should have let him burn for what he did to that family and that mother and her baby. Shooting him dead soon after blazing him was a completely unnecessary act of mercy... God this movie still so great but it's so damn hard to watch at the same time...
It's not about war. It's about friendship .
I always wondered how they got captured it felt kinda jolting for them to just appear in a POW encampment after seemingly being perfectly fine from the bombings seconds earlier.
The same way De Niro just appears on the battlefield after seemingly being perfectly chill with his homies at the bar seconds earlier.
movie editing, pal; ellipsis...
This scene has the most over the top kill in any movie Robert Denero should be the best in this movie for sure
So they all gave up/surrender after that explosion?
You can see VC running in the background but I think it’s up to the viewer to interpret what happened
I think they were surrounded on all sides
Does anyone know who the two stunt guys were hanging onto the skids of the Huey as it goes over Mike,Nick and Steve?
Truly awesome shot especially when seen in the cinema on the big screen.
Plus does anyone know if they were supposed to be US soldiers having no choice but to hold on during a desperate evacuation or captured Vietnamese soldiers/VC?
They were supposed to be rescued US or ARVN soldiers, as Mike Steve and Nick are rescued in a similar manner. Don't know why no one on the huey bothered to bring any rope, though.
I'll say this again... Did they actually blow up some real chickens in that bombing scene? I think I saw pink mist
Considering the lack of CGI at the time, i wouldn't be surprised.
Chicken nuggets
That's the first thing that I noticed. They probably did to make it look real. You definitely can't do that now.
Very cool, greetings from Indonesia my friend
Great movie I was 10 when I saw this and the Boys from Company C on Select Tv. A few years before I saw a kid who fell from wooden railing from a 25 foot stage at a festival! My buddies and I were right Infront of him telling him to get down!!!!! He said watch this I started screaming but it was to late. The boy fell off the railing in to the rocks below his head hitting a big rock the back of his head cracked open like a egg!! Brain and skull with blood every were. My grandfather a retried Milwaukee Police Officer raped a towel around his head. The Ambulance crew were there to helping to take the boy to St. Luke's Hospital. I can still see that poor boy's head and his blue eyes stairng into the heavens above! My Gunnery Sgt. Told me waite till you put more years on boy. My FTO told me that on the Police Force. I still see that boy it never goes away! That was a drip in a bucket I guess! Great movie for 5 min of action and 30 min in the prison camp!
I'm honestly not trying to be "that guy." But it's spelt Wrapped not, "Raped."
Did he just blow up trapped innocent people?
Yes they were hiding in a shelter below ground. De Niro zapped him shortly after.
Yes...
yes, by the order of the US's army
@@PhongPham-lt7rr than it's extremely ironic a US solider ended up burning and shooting him to death.
Yes that Communist POS did.
I wonder why Cimino or the editor felt they had to insert stock footage at 2:11 -- maybe they didn't get a long enough shot of people getting out of the helicopter. But to this day it still seems like an odd thing and the difference in quality jumps out.
Agreed!
It just damages the rest of the film. Dumb, foolish, not really needed decision.
It was just quick editing
I kind of knew that the NVA soldier wouldn't have been working alone, even before the artillery barrage.
If you look at :34-:35. When the NVA soldier is running across the screen. In the bushes right behind him. It appears to be another NVA soldier that we see just for a brief moment. The head of the soldier. So, could someone else be at the edge of the village watching?
@72shmoe Probably, I couldn't see the soldier you were talking about, but maybe I'm just not quick enough. Anyway, just before he shoots the woman with the baby, he gives a signal to someone pretty far off. I would have said that was a sign for the rest of his unit in the treeline to begin moving out.
There is no other soldier there.
You are seeing things.
Well all in all pretty sure they had long time to talk and catch up before arriving to the games shack
Man this was random af lol. SF in the village. Villages gets blown to shi. Then airbourne comes in and drops off all of 2-3 soldiers....then they get captured
Robert Deniro makes the best fried, Asian beef.
I just noticed your name. Yes -- Michael did just make fresh VFC (Vietnam Fried Chicken), lel
not racist at all
1937 bar belt.20 rd mags.tiger stripes. Af survival knife,with
Sharpening stone. Working with yards.i don't think,macv sog.
0:04 *MICHEAL BAY!*
That is real footage at 2:11.
"Fuck it."
Interesting to see a movie which shows NV killing civilians. Movies always make it seem like the U.S. was the only faction in the war to commit such things
Yep this was an awesome movie although I must say folks that I never looked at as a combat movie the ones the were combat were Platoon, Hamburger Hill, Full Metal Jacket and Saving Private Ryan. Deer Hunter was more similar to Coming Home
Never was intended to be a war film. It is a drama about relationships, family and friendship. I just saw here a clip of the director saying what i just wrote.
Clearly, animals were harmed in the making of this movie.
yes, movie still controversial and unpleasant to watch due to the portrayal of the Vietnamese and several animals dying on screen.
The guy that burned the vc guy looks so much like woods of black ops
Yes, they took inspiration from this movie: ruclips.net/video/MeGtwUJPJSI/видео.html
He got fucking cooked quick
I think that guy's NVA (VCs don't wear uniform).
He also looks like the father in meet the parents/Fockers
@@andypeterson3070 No no you insulted him a little, a little bit.
Always wondered what real deal Viet Nam vets thought of these movies.Do they watch them?
Eh so did NVAs and Viet Cong use Huey Gunships aswell? Or was it just US Army?
Your point is???
@@iliafigueroa4820 wasn't a point mate? Its a question?
war is the hell
Always loved the cut to Vietnam but God i hate it when they use stock footage.
unneccessary - almost ruined the scene.
It honestly looked like they helicoptered in 1 squad... what was that going to do?
Exactly! This scene hurt the film badly.
It’s the only scene that does not fit in or is a great one.
He used a mini clip of real nam footage and nobody knows why.
Then just a couple of soldiers get off the choppa 😂 and expect to do what? Armed with m-16’s and nada more. Then the helos vanish. Stupid ass “combat” scene!
@@iliafigueroa4820the squad was to retrieve what was left of Mike's squad, but I believe they were taking in to much fire so thye had to leave, ending up in Mike's capture
The ESPN people wouldn't be there,too busy making cute quips,adjusting there makeup,checking on their assets .. .the ESPN people would have avoided it at all costs.....all costs....absolutely would have grasped at every maneuver to avoid it....
2:30-2:38 Am I the only one who finds the sound of pigs oinking cute? 🐷🐖 ^^
If that's the biggest thing you got from this scene than you truly are a sorry sack...
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You gave us the incorrect timeline. 😂
That exactly what my dad and uncle wiment through pound for pound. 2 home town boys captured then got out to SA Orange County CA. Rip dad Angent Orange
Why would he use a flamethrower then shoot him?
As opposed to shooting him first, before burning him?
because the director wanted him to look badass
Nice film but the jungle is a forrest
I never understood why the Vietcong soldier decides to blow up some poor family hiding from the fighting.
The soldier was from North Vietnam - villagers were part of South.
@@QDesjardin04 ah thanks
Touching image of the PAVN soldier opening the hatch to help the people, but something is not right here.
Actually, this is the scene where the Vietnam People's Army soldier throws a baseball grenade into a civilian cellar in the Hollywood movie The Deer Hunter (1978) made 3 years after the Vietnam War, this is a distortion in this movie. second only to QGP guerrillas playing Russian Roulett
We didnt do that in war!!!
You did it to the people that were on the south Vietnamese goverment side. I think you forget that the Vietnam war was a civil war
@@williamisraelgomararias5737 i know, but VC didnt do that with their people, which u can discriminate RVN hat and VC hat
@@onikiamada23 wtf are you on the vc was knee deep in that shit too
@@williamisraelgomararias5737 aww, what a trash film
@@onikiamada23 The US weren't saints, but let's not pretend the NVA or VC were either. All had their fair share of atrocities.
Welcome to hell.
The stuck movie
FIGHTING TOUGH...US RANGERS !!!! ...MAN OF THE WOODS !!!!! AND ..RANGERS FLASH !!!!! 101 st AIRBORNE ????
Green berets. 🙄
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im confused, can somebody explain me. American helicopters attack a village with napalm controlled by the communist NVA yet the NVA soldier attacks the civilians he was protecting?
very roughly speaking,
green berets (deniro) lived with and trained locals or south vietnamese troops (burnt guys he was laying on) to protect the surrounding villages from north vietnamese or viet cong (local or insurgent communist militias) who would take the villagers harvest and young males to press into service,
if a village was co-operating with the south vietnamese government (or their US advisors/troops), sometimes the north vietnamese government would send in regular north vietnamese soldiers to attack the nearby villages to draw out the US and south vietnamese troops, or they would attack the US/south vietnamese base (which was often beside a village or within a few kms of a few villages)...
when attacked, the green berets would call in an air support , sometimes on their own positions if they were over run, as they were usually a small team of men with a local contingent (around company size), where as the NVA tended to attack in regiment size formations...
hope thois helps (again its very rough description and only from the south vietnamese/US perspective)
@@umenhuman7573 thanks now i understand.
The choppas 😂 did not bomb.
They are rockets. See the white smoke coming out of the helo at the start and then the explosions and then we see the helo hovering over us and has rocket pods.
@@umenhuman7573
Incorrect in some parts...
Those were not svietnamese, that was part of his team. All dead. Also, it looks like he was just there resting exhausted and his team dead and was maybe passing through after a mission or someting similar...
Seems this village was still not in control of the baddies.
Nva regular killed villagers because we are supposed to assume that they were pro-usa or pro-svietnam. Badly done scene in that...
Now I want to see someone get deniro with a flamethrower
I couldn’t agree more.
Savage as fuck!
You're demented. The context in which you used the word "savage" in regards to this scene is disturbing.
@@jimsty5222 savage
@@jimsty5222
SAVAGE.
Period!
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Why did the NVA soldier kill his own people?
Because they were US aided. S. Vietnamese
They weren’t his own people. The NVA cared nothing for the South Vietnamese
Too make it look like the Americans carried out the atrocity possibly
@@krystjanchanerley9288 he killed South Vietnamese civilians.
That thing always happens in every communist revolution, including the unification of society. anyone who rejects communism will be killed. a lot happened in countries with successful communist revolutions such as Russia before the Soviet Union, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, etc. only in Indonesia, which failed and even then had civil wars several times, including the last one being the massacre of communist sympathizers when the last Communist coup failed in 1965.
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The NVA soldier commiting collateral damage confusing me
NVA is evil and barbaric. Hue massacre for example
Yeah not really sure about that. Maybe they were south vietnamese? So he didn't care? Or he killed them because they were hiding in a VC ammo cache and would have told the U.S soldiers where others were? Idk
@@mattyice2099Nothing to do with them being south. He probably learned that they were cooperating with the Americans or the madness of war drove him to commit such an act. Maybe he wasn't even aware, he thought it was US soldiers that the fragged. Who knows, Vietnam war was utter hell.
Did this dude drop a mf grenade on people in a bunker…?
Isn't communism wonderful? So many happy, contented people.
People wind up eating each other, while striving for the utopia that's forever out of reach.
All seemed fine until the yanks showed up.
@@donalonzo63 That's true, the OSS Deer Team provided training and aid to the Viet Minh in their early days. Pretty sure one of the doctors provided medical aid to a very sick Ho Chi Minh. America has a tendency to create their own problems.
@@ChongiFishing 20 years to the day that Bush gave a pre invasion of Iraq speech. Wonder what would have happened if the Mongolian president rocked up to the white house with an aid package today.
@@donalonzo63 The Vietnamese were not Kosher Bolsheviks so their model always leaned more just towards the whole collectivist social experiment more than Communism no matter what Ho claimed. It actually wasnt that awful in the end and should have been left alone.
Now the Cambodians? They went full Communism... And everybody knows you never go full Communism
I guarantee you,yer lemon's,yer Southside,yer Alis,yer fox and friends,yer hannity's....there not gonna take that number ....guarantee you....they may like to watch from afar,but they're not gonna pick up that m-16 against their career.....
What are you babbling about???
Was never a big fan of this movie but I do think it's really good at showing the psychological effects of war but this scene is not very good. Also making Mike a MACV SOG dude that just happens to run into his hunting buddies from back home and they all get captured together is ridiculous.
the movie is not perfect, yes; in fact it's style over substance; but it's a masterpiece in terms of acting.
food gredient same they eat right. water with chems, skull and bones, diminishes ethnicity. 70s hard fi.
Phim nÀy có đúng đâu 😹😹👍🏼
No. It's an independently created story with Vietnam as a backdrop. Do all films need to be documentary pieces or based on true accounts? No.
Why did the liberation army kill their own compatriots, or did the author want to smear Vietnam?
Its a film. A scene to create drama. Entertainment. But probably the Liberation Army killed them because they were helping the Green Berets. It is normal. In Afghanistan, Taliban did the same. The scene it's not far from the truth.
@@MrFungusisamongus Yeah. There were reports and interviews of the PAVN doing this kind of stuff
That's not the liberation's army, that's the south's army as their uniform is yellow killing innocent by US's order
@@PhongPham-lt7rr you need to get off you high horse both sides killed folks. So both sides were trash
A reprisal for partaking in the Hearts and Minds campaign.
Thắng làm vua thua làm film
Thắng làm vua, thua về làm phim .
You've misinterpreted the message of the film. It's not a final propagandist cry from the USA to demonise the Vietnamese and exonerate themselves, it's an independently made film using the Vietnam War for about half an hour of context to show the development of a friendship through hardship. This is not pro-war, or pro-American. Anyway, give any Vietnamese person today half a chance, they would immigrate to the US. I wouldn't even put it past you. Did you write your witless comment from your red-flag laden hootch as a portrait of Ho Chi Minh looks down approvingly at you, his visage representing the most expensive item of your worldly possessions. Tôi cảm thấy tiếc cho bạn.
Jesus… a bunch of clearing woman and children and captain tough guy drops a grenade on them…
Very unrealistc, the NVA playing the bad guy killing civillians and the US soldiers would just surrender like that after they were just choppered in or when reinforcement was sent in. But overall the story in the movie is good except for this part
Thank you
They did killed civilians. Civilians got killed all of the time by both sides. but Its a war what can you expect
It's implied they surrendered or at least lost; they [the Americans] are captured in significant amount as seen in the hootch later. The NVA and LASV did commit reprisal killings against villagers who partook in the Hearts and Minds Campaign, which is the reason for De Niro's character being there (given he's in the Fifth Special Forces Group).
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It appears he(and his dead unit) are there after a mission and are exhausted. Nobody is certain he was really assigned or helping that village. Why the heck would he be carrying a flamet???
Correct.
This is maybe the only part of this movie that was bad as in BAD! The tactics, uniforms, all!
Its almost like they shot more after the guys reunite and the mortar rounds start coming in...and then cut it and was like oh well they get captured, moving on to the POW camp scenes. Awkward editing.
And those mortars were far as hell! I would have instantly ran the fok away. The rest of the sf team was dead and all the villagers, so...
Seem like everyone has taken it extremely wrong from this scene. The one that killed the the villager wasn't a NVA, they were the south's army as their uniform were yellow and the NVA's was green. They were killing innocent due to the US's order because the US does not want their hands dirty even they also do alot of the massacred themself.
That's definitely a PAVN uniform; you've got it backwards. The helmet is a dead giveaway... ARVN used the M1 from the US, but that guy has an NVA pith helmet.
I got the impression that it was a Vietcong Officer - indicated by the beige uniform and red strikes on his collar, as well as him signalling for the other VC to advance (we know they're VC when we see their dispositions later). They were targeting the village as US Special Forces (De Niro is in the Fifth, here, many of whom tended to be MACV SOG) as a reprisal for them partaking in the "Hearts and Minds Campaign" set up by the US and RVN governments to win over villages.
the tiger striped guys the main actor was laying on at the start are wearing south vietnamese uniform .. the NVA wore uniforms that were light green and also beige coloured,,,,, in hollywood productions, they tend to use the beige uniforms for nva troops so its easier to distinguish who is who
All of you guys are incorrect.
Deniro is sf green beret and the rest of his unit is dead. Those are NOT svietnamese. They are clearly americans. The sadist gook IS nvietnamese army regular. Not a vc. The bunch of jerks he signals that come out of the woodwork are vc. Why does an nva order vc militia?
To this day nobody knows. It’s called a hollywood mishap!
Pigs eating ther remains of the baby.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. WTF
Lol
Sic semper commies.
This scene doesn’t make any sence to me at all!!
how?
@@me6271 Well you see the Huey gunships strafe the village then B model Hueys land a squad then after they see De Niro then a few explosions behind them then suddenly they are in a POW camp!? It just doesn’t add up.
@@tihi79 And it also seems that Hueys were dropping bombs,the VC soldier was by himself and he killed a bunker full of his own people,Robert De Niro was asleep in a field and when he woke up he managed to get hold of a handheld flamethrower from somewhere..the film is garbage
Sense.
Let me explain...
Deniro is sf green beret and the rest of his unit is dead. Those are NOT svietnamese. They are clearly americans. The sadist gook IS nvietnamese army regular. Not a vc. The bunch of jerks he signals that come out of the woodwork are vc. Why does an nva order vc militia?
To this day nobody knows. It’s called a hollywood mishap.
A silly,overlong,pretentious and factually innacurate movie.
It dosnt show how they were captured. Lazy plot writing ✍️