Its good to hear hes putting in the work to fight for his spot but the performances havent been there. He needs to come off the bench playing against tired legs to help boost his confidence. Bulking up a bit wouldnt hurt because you look at odobert and he isnt easily bullied off the ball like brennan
He's never said a bad word about any player ! Even when he knows he's getting rid of a player, he says "He's a great player, but he wants to pursue his opportunities elsewhere, so we wish him luck" etc. The way he talks even when getting rid of a player, you wouldn't know they are getting rid of him. The management rule (Praise publicly and criticise in private).
@@ricky5538 Ange always puts players' health first. He substitutes them when there is even a chance of an injury, even when the player says they're all good he still takes them off knowing it could cost him points.
@@Whitehead1861 He's never let them down, in fact he was open-and-clear with them about how they didnt fit the squad at the time. Brining spence back no he's proved himself is class.
Sad state of affairs that spurs fans are turning on this guy already. I guess that's modern football though that no manager gets a proper chance to instil their ideas into a team. The chances we've created you can see what he's trying to do, it's not his fault the players can't stick the ball in the dam net. Very fickle fan base unfortunately, just remember how toxic the club was before he came in.
@DRUM19 exactly, we've not won anything for 16 years and we think the world owes us one...its a real shame. We're clearly going in the right direction but we won't give it the time needs
Honestly people wanted ange to work out but the results the actual factual results are worse than any previous manager and don't look like improving at all
Smart lad took the criticism and used it as his strength. Any big club has faced difficulties during a team rebuild. Be patient and trust the process! COYS!
@@christk76we’re not, if you think this is mediocre then you don’t have a clue about football. There are clubs out there like Everton that would kill to be in our position. We were once a club on the brink of extinction, that was when the current owners came in and turned us into one of the biggest football clubs recognised around the globe. We’re just starting to see the benefits of the growth the owners have built, it’s actually early days. If that’s mediocre to you then there are other clubs you can support that will satisfy your hunt for glory.
@@vandammejam it’s called putting things into perspective. Or you could just be 9yo and cry about not having a trophy to boast about. Building a club takes time, money and patience. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
It’s so odd that people are perplexed by a man who has been successful in a competitive industry believes in himself and what he does. Is he supposed to aim for failure?
@@zicowilco60 Won the Asian cup, Dominated teams like Holland at the WC, Won the J-league title, Won the A-league AND The A-league finals series... AND won the double, then won a treble, with celtic in scotland (after turning around a squad who was in a shambles and were way behind rangers who have just as much money as celt).... Just because english players have inflated transfer costs and egos, doesn't mean football elsewhere in the world doesn't matter. Asian football is growing in quality everyday. Thats why japan smash Germany so often. The man has won everywhere hes gone. Even if you're too ignorant to see how high-quality some non-euro football is - Its still a crazy-good CV. He's a winning machine, even if you want to nitpick: Youre saying: "ohhh yeah sure! he wins everything, and everyone loves him, and pep and klopp say he's a brilliant manager - bbbbbuuutttt hes *actually* bad because he dominated the scottish league". It makes no sense to say. It's just not a persuasive argument. I swear, he'd win the prem and people like you will be like "ohh uhhh bbbbuuttt but its not the world cup"
@@jord.an6123 So I assume at the end of the season when he's won nothing you'll happily label him a failure. You certainly won't be making any excuses will you?
Understandable being frustated with player performances, but no point writing hate about Individuals that are putting in the work behind scenes like Ange said. Likely hood is they'll read those comments feel like shit and play worse in the next game. We got to be better and back our boys win or lose, COYS
That’s 100% true. We shouldn’t be criticising players like Johnson and Werner. We should be supporting them and putting them under our wing. They will not be successful if they have no confidence. We need our players to be successful.
He's an immense communicator. The way he dealt with the question about Brennan Johnson was pure class. People may question his tactics and philosophy, but as a fan, I feel such pride in him being our manager.
Play good football far better then you guys have been in years. Players are failing ange. They get into positions to shoot but they are not taking them, that's on the players not the coach. Coys should be happy with the football you guys are playing is eye candy. If he does that at city they are winning the league lol
Well done to our fans for giving johnson abuse and forcing him to delete his social media, well bloody done for turning ya back on the players of the club you meant to love by giving them abuse.......bet they give their friends and family grief, if thats how these foolish fans treat thing they love!! These knobheads need to be called out for it!!
Even if its 15 games in to the season we have to be patient. It will work and it has to work, but once it works we will be a joy. Sometimes its always the last bit that is the most tough to tread. Its the dark before the dawn. So show patience and wait for him to prove it, even if it means a season full of crap. He will come through this, he has done at many other clubs. We wanted positive mindset, attractive football, not speaking ill of the club and a young team. He has given us everything in a years time. We just have to give him time to work with what he has built.
Wake up - last 32 games we've got 44 points. It's over for him. Lazy work ethic, turns up every day collecting his wage - doing the same countered drills. I'm tired of this shite - the cycle of mediocrity is back. We won't be higher than 9th this season.
@@SuperSteve101 Lazy work ethic? that's no where near why he gets criticized, it's his lack of footballing ability. Def not because he's lazy, just say what you really want to say stop tip toeing.
Wonder what that scoresheet would have looked like if they had Odegaard and Rice playing? People are upset because this was a game that should have been won esp. given that two of their best players were out. The fact that they got man-handled shows the difference in playing level, strategy and personnel management.
@이준서-r6l ....It wasn't that long ago most Arseshit fans wanted arteta sacked also Arseshit has achieved nothing with arteta finishing 2nd in the premiership is not a trophy..
@@이준서-r6l It might not have looked much different. Arteta had a plan to soak up pressure and counterattack, and I don't think personnel available would have changed that gameplan much. Odegaard _might_ have helped when they had possession, might not have. Rice _might_ have helped break up Spurs' advance into the final third, or might have sat back.
@Mr.RobotHead Yes, it might not have been different but that would be a different gameplan to how they would normally play, no? They clearly used our weakness against us - compact defenses and set pieces. Moreover why is Ange using Son as a winger to throw crosses around? His best role is an inside forward, and as one of the better shooters in the team, he should be having Son and Solanke taking shots, not using defensive players like Udogie or Porro taking more shots than forwards. What good is possession when they can't put themselves ahead of the opponents in the scoresheet and what good is it if they can't keep the lead?
Sad reflection on where our society is at …. It’s now deemed more important and held to a higher status to be a victim, than to strive and take it on the chin when we fail in our endeavours. It used to be good parenting to hold our children and ourselves to a higher standard and strive to improve…. Now it’s more important to not hurt feelings and to not have expectations in case it makes some (lazy weak minded) person feel bad. Ange (in 13 months) is trying to change 30 years of mediocrity by putting high expectations on our squad …. And how crazy that the Spurs fans who are obviously footballing masterminds somehow think we should be further along than we are if we were to listen to their wisdom 😅 it’s actually laughable that Ange and some players are being vilified when the journey has only just begun. But then again for many it’s more desirable to complain than it is to support.
Hypothetically speaking if he was able to pull of any trophy with Tottenham the opportunities would be endless for Ange its one thing for the club as fans but for him as a manager this is a giant stepping stone if he can manage to pull something off with Tottenham he will certainly establish him self as a world class manager regardless of what anyone says
Judging by the last few days, I don't think a trophy by itself will give him much leeway with the negative fans. They'll always be on his back about something.
@@leomac3464 well that says a lot about you. I have been underwhelmed by the whole Postecoglu era so far. I’m not impressed with how we play, the pretty football and possession is currently superficial and the players not good enough. However were he to somehow win a trophy I will be one of the first to congratulate him and say I was wrong. That said he has backed himself into a corner with his comments
@@simondweck757 "the whole Postecoglou era"...It's been one year. Don't worry, your dramatic expectations of a one year old project and squad that's merely lacking the final product says plenty about you. Xx
@@leomac3464 So after last night where we struggled to beat a second string Coventry side, where those “generational talents” did fuck all and Angeball was exposed for the total fraudulent idea it is ,do you still think Ange is the answer? If the answer is categorically yes then there is no hope left for you.
I see Ange's point on believing he can win something in his 2nd year because that is what he's done. The problem I see is that the players don't seem to be good enough in scoring areas, whether that is down to the pressure of expectations or simply down to not being good enough I don't know. You can say that players like Johnson and Odebert and Son and Kulesevski have a lot of upside, but then you could say that of any player ever. If you continue to demonstrate that lack of upside, if you continue to display the same inconsistency in your game there is no upside, you hit your ceiling. I look at a lot of these Spurs players and see exactly that, limited players who aren't good enough. The best teams like the Man City's and Real Madrids of this world win stuff because their biggest and best players perform in the biggest moments. That is what separates the really good teams from the rest, they have big game players and I don't see Tottenham having any of those. Son maybe, but even he has missed some big goals recently that a big game player puts away.
i am astounded that Ange is quoting that he normally wins things in his second season, Ange mate this is NOT the same level as Scotland/Japan/Aus, for God's sake this is NOT rocket science ! This is the most competitive league in the world to win as PEP will always tell you. This the highest level how can Ange keep a straight face and say well I have won at a lower level so ........surely i will win here🙄🙄
The abuse is not needed but Brennan Johnson has been absolutely awful this year. His crosses barely beat the first man and he seems scared to run at full backs. He really needs time on the bench because he does not warrant a start.
Totally agree. The fact we didn’t buy a ready now right winger in the window is not his fault, so he is still starting. I am disappointed he hasn’t kicked on yet. He cost a lot of money. He looked all pace and not much else. I thought pre season would help, but it hasn’t. Keep him on the bench. He does well last 20-30 mins. Until he plays smarter and finds consistency, starting him is foolish.
Let's give the man a chance... this is the first manager in years that has got Levy to loosen the purse strings.. Rome wasn't built in a day .. He's changed alot (which we all agreed the club needed),so stick with him and give him a chance.
We will always be an average club on the pitch whilst we are under this regime, and that has nothing to do with ange or the players. If the club had backed poch and given him the money we have spent since, I truly believe we would be right up there, opppertunity missed.
Tottenham fans we need to stick with this guy. Look at the teams which are successful- Man City stuck with Pep they had strong results, Woolwich stuck with Arteta they had strong results, Liverpool stuck with Klopp they had strong results, Aston Villa stuck with Emery and had strong results. Chelsea changes coach every season = Failure. Let’s not do a Chelsea. I genuinely want everyone to get the success they desire. The Levy Out fans and Levy In fans. Everyone. You deserve success. Please stop changing managers. It won’t give us success.
Grown adults abusing a 22 year old online because they personally didn’t like the way he was kicking a ball around…Who ever does that type of stuff needs to get a grip
Good on Ange, he's go da same attitude that I av wen I play cards, I Never bluff yet every single time my opponents think I'm bluffing, if they choose ta doubt my word thats on them not me............
No amount of trophyless seasons can make me as embarrassed to be a Spurs fan, then way our fan base behaves does... Ange came in after we finished like 8th, we lost arguably one of the greatest strikers in history and still revolutionized our play style and made us finish 5th. It's ONLY THE START OF HIS SECOND YEAR!!! I understand that people want to win now, but COME ON... Give the dude an actual shot. At this pace we'll be replacing managers every 6 months...
Stop spending your life online and you’ll actually meet a lot of spurs fans who are fine with Ange . All comments like yours prove is too many people base everything on doom scrolling all the whining idiots on X, instead of logging off and living
@price6080 Yes, I understand that the fans don't sack the manager, but yelling ange out when things get tough influence those in charge... Clearly, the point of my comment was too hard to comprehend. The second half of your comment is honestly comical.
All top club have it to be fair and it's not just Tottenham or even football in general. It happens with video games, movies, etc. That unfortunately is the dark side of social media.
And that's why you're not a successful football coach because if you honestly believe that, then you have no idea how to build a top football team. How many defeats in a row are allowed BEFORE it becomes 'acceptable' to you? 5? 3? 1? None? A friendly reminder that Ange's team in Japan finish 12th and at one point were near the relegation zone. The owners stuck by him and they finished first in the next season.
Brennan may never come to this channel, but I want to let Johnson know that there are many fans who support him. I play the role of unpopular opinion on this channel. I’ve always said we need to be patient with Ange, Brennan, and Richarlison, and that they will eventually succeed with this club.It’s the fans’ right to criticize when a manager or player doesn’t perform well. But I wish the excessive criticism would stop.
He says he's been managing for 26 years and always been successful. It's a different ball game when you're working under Levy. He's now finding this out and it's niggling him.
Basically what the media are saying is that in British culture it’s frowned upon to speak about your successes as it sets you up for downfalls. In other nations, it’s totally accepted like US, Aus etc total culture clash.
I agree, but all the coaches surely tell him that aswell, not saying that you did it but the people just calling him shit doesn’t help at all, its just toxic
Sort out the quality of journos asking questions. Trying to assess the answers in respect of questions comprises the quality of these forums. Is this on THFC or We are Tottenham? Either way sort it out.
Ange stated that he always wins things in his second season. Most of us, probably correctly, assumed that he was inferring that he would win something with spurs in his second season. Now he is saying that he was simply stating a true fact regarding his past rather than predicting the future with spurs. Clever twist
Main problem with this fan base is they've been starved of trophies for too long. A start stop season and lackluster performance just get on their nerves and cause them to become reactive seeking to sack the gaffer / sell the player. What Ange has is endeavour. He sees us being successful. He see us having no limits. He wants us to be good. When you looking at numbers and stats objectively we are better off than the previous 4,5 seasons. The football we play is exciting. We've invested. We've been trying. We just need time to deliver results, it's a football club not a microwave ready meal.
Postecoglou couldn't make a plausible excuse to sports journalists and Spurs fans. His strategy & tactics were perfectly analyzed by other EPL teams. However, he doesn't know how to develop some alternatives to solve this serious problem. On top of that, many squad members didn't know how to build teamwork to get attacking points in the worst match. Most of them had aspired to reach their personal statistical data instead of becoming winning team members. Probably they wanted to become top scorers but they couldn't do that. Tottenham needs another team rebuilding process in the upcoming winter transfer season if it doesn't want to become a losing club in the EPL.
Ange is Australian, their only thought is of winning, it breeds a winning mentality.... Think Australian Cricket team.... They want to win, they believe they will every time they play for the Ashes. It's great to see and hear. He is being honest why do people want to knock him.
I wonder if Ange likes all of these press conferences every time I come on RUclips he’s on answering the same questions. Would he rather be on the training ground ? As far as players social media don’t go on it ( maybe ) Oh and I believe in Ange Come on you Spurs
Im sorry but i cant feel bad for Brennan hes not a little kid, hes a grown professional baller, quality players work to prove doubters wrong, all he does is provide more ammo, its not alll his fault we messed up signing him, hes a forest level player not fit for a top 6 side.
So...that makes it OK to personally abuse him? If you do a bad job at work one day, would it be OK if someone started doing that to you? Or would you, as AP suggested punch them in the face?
💯 agree. That’s the thing I was thinking when the fans were losing it this week. He has come to the club and just tried to make us win. He has just tried to bring in positivity. He has played positive attacking football and got us to 5th place doing it. Has brought in many young up and coming players who will continue to bring success to the club for years to come. Lots of people making fun of him. But lots of clubs would love to have exciting, attacking and successful football. This is still year one!!! Give the guy time to cook.
Ange places unneeded extra pressure on Johnson, refusing to drop him. Why - it was his down to his judgment signing him & also trying in vain to justify the crazy transfer fee, where Forest stuck a finger in the air, thought up an outrageous number & then doubled it for good luck.
No one refuses to give Ange time. No one can say his system doesnt work. But if he continues to buy Mid Players who cant execute his system to perfection like Pep, Klopp or Arteta then it doesnt matter if he is given 100 years to instill his philosophy it just wont work on this elite level
Not for abusing Brenan or any player. But you cannot say his performances do not warrant critisism. He is an Ange signing and his position is crucial to the way Ange plays. But besides wayward crosses and shot attempts, he has not even attempted taking players on. At least Odobert tries.
The game was against Arsenal and we lost twice against them last season which was unacceptable for them to lose again at home it’s painful and frustrating big Ange doesn’t understand the what the fans are going through.. the guy is very naive and he doesn’t understand.
Re Ange's comments re success in the second season, I think the reason it irks British people is that it is just not normal in British culture for people to big themselves up in that way. Mourinho had the same backlash following his "special one" comments back in 2004. Whether we like it or not, in Britain, we generally resent or dismiss the success of others rather than encourage or be happy for those who succeed, which is far more of an American thing.
He is fine. Bentancur should be getting criticism. His win percentage is so low. Sarr and Bissouma for some stupid reason are second choice but they got us to be top spot in premier league. Johnson is able to get in great positions and always wants to go forward. If Kane was here he would be amazing. Johnson just needs to get a bit more polished and match sharp
There is too much talk from the fans, the players and the manager. It’s time to focus and deliver performances and win matches. I’m fed up with the amount of hot air from all quarters.
It’s all very boring now, mate. Managers get judged on results, all we do is lose against anybody half decent. Like him or dislike him it’s a results business.
Over the years seen L'pool & Man U both start badly and do well later in the season. Let's see what happens. Still think he underestimated the strength of the PL. The team is inflexible and plays one way. Much more attractive than Conte or Mourinho teams but some positive results are needed and soon.
There’s a difference between saying “I always win in my second season” and “I have always won in my second season” the later , he can claim as fact but it’s not what he said. having said that, no big deal at all, fair play for entertaining press conferences 😂
What do you think a manager do all the time on the pitch on matchday ??? Sticking his finger up his arse ??? It's the players ffs that isn't following the plan. Look at the player's last season or during Everton and compare it with Newcastle or Arsenal. Huge drop off in confidence, thus poor performances.
I'm ashamed of our fans. Can't we support our manager and players. Brennan will come good, but only if we support and love him. Frankly, some of our fans are embarrassing.
Flaky fans one year down the line when Ange out people have gotten what they want and there's a new manager taking charge: "How could this have happened to us? Why does our team suck? No one could've possibly seen it coming! It couldn't have possibly been that I was the weak link!"
Had a fantastic start, though need to look at Spurs win ratio since. It's not great, it's relegation form. Love Ange for his positivity though his tactics clearly aren't working, being used to the Scottish and Australian league, and he needs to stop being so arrogant and accept different ideas. It's a good team, just not being used correctly right now.
It's not Ange, he's definitely capable of winging a trophy or two. The problem is Levy, he'll never bring in the players needed for Ange to win a trophy or two. We all know how this season will end up, don't let Levy delude you into thinking it'll be a successful one.
Im sorry Johnson doesnt have it and never will he is 23 doesnt have a touch, cant cross, cant shoot, and is unaware of where his players are these skills are built when your young even in his prime he will not improves these exhibit A Timo Werner. Johnson is Forest level at best time and positives vibes cant save him
What rubbish. Brennon has been our best attacking player for the past year. It's not his fault no one is ever in the box to support him or receive his crosses!
@@enemy_of_progress exactly. He’s a second striker/inside forward. Similar to how Son is. We are completely wasting him and Son playing them as wingers. Poor kid it’s not really his fault.
Fact is, Kulu is the only RF, who is not being used in this position. But Brennen needs competition. Same for Son, he needs to be benched, work and deserve his spot. With the overflow of left wingers it's not difficult to replace him. And more passionated and energetic players should wear the cpt. badge tbh. Pedro, Vicario, VDV. Son is a jocker. Don't get me wrong, for what I know he is funny and likes jocking around, this is a great thing for the team, but this is exactly the reason, why I personally, won't take him seriously!
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Hes an admirable guy - what he said about Brennan was pure class.
Its good to hear hes putting in the work to fight for his spot but the performances havent been there. He needs to come off the bench playing against tired legs to help boost his confidence. Bulking up a bit wouldnt hurt because you look at odobert and he isnt easily bullied off the ball like brennan
He's never said a bad word about any player !
Even when he knows he's getting rid of a player, he says "He's a great player, but he wants to pursue his opportunities elsewhere, so we wish him luck" etc. The way he talks even when getting rid of a player, you wouldn't know they are getting rid of him.
The management rule (Praise publicly and criticise in private).
@@ricky5538 He let some players down - Lo Celso, Spence...
@@ricky5538 Ange always puts players' health first. He substitutes them when there is even a chance of an injury, even when the player says they're all good he still takes them off knowing it could cost him points.
@@Whitehead1861 He's never let them down, in fact he was open-and-clear with them about how they didnt fit the squad at the time. Brining spence back no he's proved himself is class.
Sad state of affairs that spurs fans are turning on this guy already. I guess that's modern football though that no manager gets a proper chance to instil their ideas into a team. The chances we've created you can see what he's trying to do, it's not his fault the players can't stick the ball in the dam net. Very fickle fan base unfortunately, just remember how toxic the club was before he came in.
Fans turning are dumb...however of fans want to see him adapt to the PL
Exactly, Some Spurs fans are out of control presently.
@DRUM19 exactly, we've not won anything for 16 years and we think the world owes us one...its a real shame. We're clearly going in the right direction but we won't give it the time needs
Honestly people wanted ange to work out but the results the actual factual results are worse than any previous manager and don't look like improving at all
@@jasonstanley775because its an entire club rebuild. That doesnt happen in a year and a month. It happens over multiple years.
Smart lad took the criticism and used it as his strength. Any big club has faced difficulties during a team rebuild. Be patient and trust the process! COYS!
lets face it we are mediocre club
@@christk76we’re not, if you think this is mediocre then you don’t have a clue about football. There are clubs out there like Everton that would kill to be in our position. We were once a club on the brink of extinction, that was when the current owners came in and turned us into one of the biggest football clubs recognised around the globe. We’re just starting to see the benefits of the growth the owners have built, it’s actually early days. If that’s mediocre to you then there are other clubs you can support that will satisfy your hunt for glory.
@@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vzdeluded take
@@vandammejam it’s called putting things into perspective. Or you could just be 9yo and cry about not having a trophy to boast about. Building a club takes time, money and patience. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
@@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vz the owners are the problem tho. Would rather build a hotel than spend money developing a team
He handles everything perfectly and he always has. This is our Coach, we have to give him respect!
@@TechnicallySoundSoccer he's yet to win us a derby mate😂
This is accountability. Great leadership and standard setting.
It’s so odd that people are perplexed by a man who has been successful in a competitive industry believes in himself and what he does. Is he supposed to aim for failure?
Only 2 teams in Scotland mate 😮
You're perplexed by yourself.
@@zicowilco60 Won the Asian cup, Dominated teams like Holland at the WC, Won the J-league title, Won the A-league AND The A-league finals series... AND won the double, then won a treble, with celtic in scotland (after turning around a squad who was in a shambles and were way behind rangers who have just as much money as celt)....
Just because english players have inflated transfer costs and egos, doesn't mean football elsewhere in the world doesn't matter. Asian football is growing in quality everyday. Thats why japan smash Germany so often. The man has won everywhere hes gone. Even if you're too ignorant to see how high-quality some non-euro football is - Its still a crazy-good CV.
He's a winning machine, even if you want to nitpick:
Youre saying: "ohhh yeah sure! he wins everything, and everyone loves him, and pep and klopp say he's a brilliant manager - bbbbbuuutttt hes *actually* bad because he dominated the scottish league". It makes no sense to say.
It's just not a persuasive argument. I swear, he'd win the prem and people like you will be like "ohh uhhh bbbbuuttt but its not the world cup"
@@jord.an6123 So I assume at the end of the season when he's won nothing you'll happily label him a failure. You certainly won't be making any excuses will you?
Ange on fire today.
Understandable being frustated with player performances, but no point writing hate about Individuals that are putting in the work behind scenes like Ange said. Likely hood is they'll read those comments feel like shit and play worse in the next game. We got to be better and back our boys win or lose, COYS
That’s 100% true. We shouldn’t be criticising players like Johnson and Werner. We should be supporting them and putting them under our wing.
They will not be successful if they have no confidence. We need our players to be successful.
He's an immense communicator. The way he dealt with the question about Brennan Johnson was pure class. People may question his tactics and philosophy, but as a fan, I feel such pride in him being our manager.
Nah this guy always makes me feel we are winning a trophy
Provided we back him..we haven't until now
Play good football far better then you guys have been in years. Players are failing ange. They get into positions to shoot but they are not taking them, that's on the players not the coach. Coys should be happy with the football you guys are playing is eye candy. If he does that at city they are winning the league lol
Well done to our fans for giving johnson abuse and forcing him to delete his social media, well bloody done for turning ya back on the players of the club you meant to love by giving them abuse.......bet they give their friends and family grief, if thats how these foolish fans treat thing they love!! These knobheads need to be called out for it!!
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Johnson is shit & should be sold
Criticism and Praise. 2 sides of the same coin. Abuse unacceptable. Criticism acceptable.
@@indianastones6032 wasnt our fans. It was kids and a few angry men on the internet.
@@daz4355 who are internet trolls that have never stepped foot in Tottenham to criticise our players
Ange is a respectful and honest man with a great deal of integrity we all understand what he’s trying to do it’s just not happening for him
Incredible self-belief, let him prove it. It's just four games in.
Even if its 15 games in to the season we have to be patient. It will work and it has to work, but once it works we will be a joy. Sometimes its always the last bit that is the most tough to tread. Its the dark before the dawn. So show patience and wait for him to prove it, even if it means a season full of crap.
He will come through this, he has done at many other clubs. We wanted positive mindset, attractive football, not speaking ill of the club and a young team. He has given us everything in a years time. We just have to give him time to work with what he has built.
Wake up - last 32 games we've got 44 points. It's over for him. Lazy work ethic, turns up every day collecting his wage - doing the same countered drills. I'm tired of this shite - the cycle of mediocrity is back. We won't be higher than 9th this season.
@@SuperSteve101so you know what goes on in the training sessions then for sure please enlighten us or you just flapping your gums 🤦🏻
@@phil2068Nothing happens in training. They play the same regardless of who the opposition is. Pay attention.
@@SuperSteve101 Lazy work ethic? that's no where near why he gets criticized, it's his lack of footballing ability. Def not because he's lazy, just say what you really want to say stop tip toeing.
Ange is a real human being. Perhaps some of the fans (i won't call them supporters) should give being a human being a go.
Well said 👏
Too many crybabies chucking the teddy out the pram 4 games in lol
Fools.
Spot on
SPURS HAVE WON NOTHING IN THE 14 YEARS I HAVE BEEN WATCHING! Give the guy a chance. For shit sake, they lost 1-0 to a very good Arsehole team.
Wonder what that scoresheet would have looked like if they had Odegaard and Rice playing? People are upset because this was a game that should have been won esp. given that two of their best players were out. The fact that they got man-handled shows the difference in playing level, strategy and personnel management.
@이준서-r6l ....It wasn't that long ago most Arseshit fans wanted arteta sacked also Arseshit has achieved nothing with arteta finishing 2nd in the premiership is not a trophy..
@@PeterkontoArseshit buy quality players and pay quality wages
@@이준서-r6l It might not have looked much different. Arteta had a plan to soak up pressure and counterattack, and I don't think personnel available would have changed that gameplan much. Odegaard _might_ have helped when they had possession, might not have. Rice _might_ have helped break up Spurs' advance into the final third, or might have sat back.
@Mr.RobotHead Yes, it might not have been different but that would be a different gameplan to how they would normally play, no? They clearly used our weakness against us - compact defenses and set pieces. Moreover why is Ange using Son as a winger to throw crosses around? His best role is an inside forward, and as one of the better shooters in the team, he should be having Son and Solanke taking shots, not using defensive players like Udogie or Porro taking more shots than forwards. What good is possession when they can't put themselves ahead of the opponents in the scoresheet and what good is it if they can't keep the lead?
4:44 😂 that’s why I love him
Brennan Johnson got the most assists for spurs last season, i say praise the lad
9:35 asked about Brennan
Thanks
Sad reflection on where our society is at …. It’s now deemed more important and held to a higher status to be a victim, than to strive and take it on the chin when we fail in our endeavours.
It used to be good parenting to hold our children and ourselves to a higher standard and strive to improve…. Now it’s more important to not hurt feelings and to not have expectations in case it makes some (lazy weak minded) person feel bad.
Ange (in 13 months) is trying to change 30 years of mediocrity by putting high expectations on our squad …. And how crazy that the Spurs fans who are obviously footballing masterminds somehow think we should be further along than we are if we were to listen to their wisdom 😅 it’s actually laughable that Ange and some players are being vilified when the journey has only just begun.
But then again for many it’s more desirable to complain than it is to support.
Hypothetically speaking if he was able to pull of any trophy with Tottenham the opportunities would be endless for Ange its one thing for the club as fans but for him as a manager this is a giant stepping stone if he can manage to pull something off with Tottenham he will certainly establish him self as a world class manager regardless of what anyone says
No.
Judging by the last few days, I don't think a trophy by itself will give him much leeway with the negative fans. They'll always be on his back about something.
@@leomac3464 well that says a lot about you. I have been underwhelmed by the whole Postecoglu era so far. I’m not impressed with how we play, the pretty football and possession is currently superficial and the players not good enough. However were he to somehow win a trophy I will be one of the first to congratulate him and say I was wrong. That said he has backed himself into a corner with his comments
@@simondweck757 "the whole Postecoglou era"...It's been one year. Don't worry, your dramatic expectations of a one year old project and squad that's merely lacking the final product says plenty about you. Xx
@@leomac3464 So after last night where we struggled to beat a second string Coventry side, where those “generational talents” did fuck all and Angeball was exposed for the total fraudulent idea it is ,do you still think Ange is the answer? If the answer is categorically yes then there is no hope left for you.
I see Ange's point on believing he can win something in his 2nd year because that is what he's done. The problem I see is that the players don't seem to be good enough in scoring areas, whether that is down to the pressure of expectations or simply down to not being good enough I don't know. You can say that players like Johnson and Odebert and Son and Kulesevski have a lot of upside, but then you could say that of any player ever. If you continue to demonstrate that lack of upside, if you continue to display the same inconsistency in your game there is no upside, you hit your ceiling. I look at a lot of these Spurs players and see exactly that, limited players who aren't good enough. The best teams like the Man City's and Real Madrids of this world win stuff because their biggest and best players perform in the biggest moments. That is what separates the really good teams from the rest, they have big game players and I don't see Tottenham having any of those. Son maybe, but even he has missed some big goals recently that a big game player puts away.
I think the fact that after years of asking for the questions to be better microphoned up and whether it’s intentional or not says everything
I'm backing Ange all the way
Thankyou. Too many crybaby "fans" these days
All the way to midtable
i am astounded that Ange is quoting that he normally wins things in his second season, Ange mate this is NOT the same level as Scotland/Japan/Aus, for God's sake this is NOT rocket science ! This is the most competitive league in the world to win as PEP will always tell you. This the highest level how can Ange keep a straight face and say well I have won at a lower level so ........surely i will win here🙄🙄
Johnson is great. love his pace and movement. it was just scoring that he was lacking a bit of confidence with. then he scored yesterday .
The abuse is not needed but Brennan Johnson has been absolutely awful this year. His crosses barely beat the first man and he seems scared to run at full backs. He really needs time on the bench because he does not warrant a start.
Totally agree. The fact we didn’t buy a ready now right winger in the window is not his fault, so he is still starting. I am disappointed he hasn’t kicked on yet. He cost a lot of money. He looked all pace and not much else. I thought pre season would help, but it hasn’t. Keep him on the bench. He does well last 20-30 mins. Until he plays smarter and finds consistency, starting him is foolish.
this aged well..
Can we have mic to hear the questions
Let's give the man a chance... this is the first manager in years that has got Levy to loosen the purse strings.. Rome wasn't built in a day .. He's changed alot (which we all agreed the club needed),so stick with him and give him a chance.
We will always be an average club on the pitch whilst we are under this regime, and that has nothing to do with ange or the players. If the club had backed poch and given him the money we have spent since, I truly believe we would be right up there, opppertunity missed.
Tottenham fans we need to stick with this guy.
Look at the teams which are successful- Man City stuck with Pep they had strong results, Woolwich stuck with Arteta they had strong results, Liverpool stuck with Klopp they had strong results, Aston Villa stuck with Emery and had strong results.
Chelsea changes coach every season = Failure.
Let’s not do a Chelsea.
I genuinely want everyone to get the success they desire. The Levy Out fans and Levy In fans. Everyone. You deserve success.
Please stop changing managers. It won’t give us success.
Grown adults abusing a 22 year old online because they personally didn’t like the way he was kicking a ball around…Who ever does that type of stuff needs to get a grip
Your typical spurs fan sint you? Weak mentality
Good on Ange, he's go da same attitude that I av wen I play cards, I Never bluff yet every single time my opponents think I'm bluffing, if they choose ta doubt my word thats on them not me............
It should be illegal to abuse people on Instagram, anyone that does that should be banned.
No amount of trophyless seasons can make me as embarrassed to be a Spurs fan, then way our fan base behaves does...
Ange came in after we finished like 8th, we lost arguably one of the greatest strikers in history and still revolutionized our play style and made us finish 5th. It's ONLY THE START OF HIS SECOND YEAR!!! I understand that people want to win now, but COME ON... Give the dude an actual shot. At this pace we'll be replacing managers every 6 months...
Wise comment. These fans are toxic and half the problem with this club!
Stop spending your life online and you’ll actually meet a lot of spurs fans who are fine with Ange . All comments like yours prove is too many people base everything on doom scrolling all the whining idiots on X, instead of logging off and living
Spurs fans dont sack the manager, the board does. Having no trophies doesnt embarrass you😂? Okay when will they hand you the non toxic fan cup?
@price6080 Yes, I understand that the fans don't sack the manager, but yelling ange out when things get tough influence those in charge... Clearly, the point of my comment was too hard to comprehend. The second half of your comment is honestly comical.
@skepticalturtles so you think Levy listens to the fans before making decisions 😂
Why is the damn audio allwaayss so low on these video's?
Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the people asking the questions don’t have a microphone, would be helpful for us viewers
It's the embargoed section videos that the reporters have no mics on
@@Flynnlywtf is all the embargoed BS about . Do they want the public to tune in or not .
Farrkkk meee
@@dirkdiggler9174 it's for the print media to put out first to give them some content as supposed to everything being on digital media
I’m more concerned we can’t defend a cross Brennan is one of the only guys that’s scored a goal this season.
Dude's forgetting that 4 - 0 game against Everton, 1 - 1 against Leicester. Sure Brennan the only goalscorer, sure...
He hasn't scored. He has the most xg and most shots and hasn't scored.
Love Big Ange! Straight talking and makes complete sense.
If you keep doing the same things don't expect different results. He won't hack it at this level
A part of this fanbase is so toxic
We've won f*** all in 14 years.What do you expect?Do you want us to be happy
Agreed!
All top club have it to be fair and it's not just Tottenham or even football in general. It happens with video games, movies, etc. That unfortunately is the dark side of social media.
You have to wonder why though. Can you blame them? Not everyone is able to force a smile through hardships.
We all know the root of this toxicity
Johnson is shit though. Thats not abuse, thats my opinion.
7 defeats in 11 games is unacceptable.
And that's why you're not a successful football coach because if you honestly believe that, then you have no idea how to build a top football team.
How many defeats in a row are allowed BEFORE it becomes 'acceptable' to you? 5? 3? 1? None?
A friendly reminder that Ange's team in Japan finish 12th and at one point were near the relegation zone. The owners stuck by him and they finished first in the next season.
@@wefinishthisnow3883 Really who gives a shit about his time in Japan 😆 He will get sacked before we win anything
@@keefbeef Celtic fans? Who also went through the same thing?
Johnson has the ability to be a great player. Get off his back. He’ll get there this season I believe
Love Big Ange and love Brennan Johnson COYS
Brennan may never come to this channel, but I want to let Johnson know that there are many fans who support him.
I play the role of unpopular opinion on this channel. I’ve always said we need to be patient with Ange, Brennan, and Richarlison, and that they will eventually succeed with this club.It’s the fans’ right to criticize when a manager or player doesn’t perform well. But I wish the excessive criticism would stop.
He says he's been managing for 26 years and always been successful. It's a different ball game when you're working under Levy. He's now finding this out and it's niggling him.
Basically what the media are saying is that in British culture it’s frowned upon to speak about your successes as it sets you up for downfalls. In other nations, it’s totally accepted like US, Aus etc total culture clash.
All Brennan has to do is cross the ball. Never ever pass back.
I agree, but all the coaches surely tell him that aswell, not saying that you did it but the people just calling him shit doesn’t help at all, its just toxic
Sort out the quality of journos asking questions. Trying to assess the answers in respect of questions comprises the quality of these forums. Is this on THFC or We are Tottenham? Either way sort it out.
a winning mentality is just a bit scary to people in the Spurs circle 🙏 COYS
Ange stated that he always wins things in his second season.
Most of us, probably correctly, assumed that he was inferring that he would win something with spurs in his second season.
Now he is saying that he was simply stating a true fact regarding his past rather than predicting the future with spurs.
Clever twist
Hopefully Big Ange Stays as He Is An Aussie Ten Hag.
Main problem with this fan base is they've been starved of trophies for too long. A start stop season and lackluster performance just get on their nerves and cause them to become reactive seeking to sack the gaffer / sell the player.
What Ange has is endeavour. He sees us being successful. He see us having no limits. He wants us to be good. When you looking at numbers and stats objectively we are better off than the previous 4,5 seasons. The football we play is exciting. We've invested. We've been trying. We just need time to deliver results, it's a football club not a microwave ready meal.
Postecoglou couldn't make a plausible excuse to sports journalists and Spurs fans. His strategy & tactics were perfectly analyzed by other EPL teams. However, he doesn't know how to develop some alternatives to solve this serious problem. On top of that, many squad members didn't know how to build teamwork to get attacking points in the worst match. Most of them had aspired to reach their personal statistical data instead of becoming winning team members. Probably they wanted to become top scorers but they couldn't do that. Tottenham needs another team rebuilding process in the upcoming winter transfer season if it doesn't want to become a losing club in the EPL.
Ange is Australian, their only thought is of winning, it breeds a winning mentality.... Think Australian Cricket team.... They want to win, they believe they will every time they play for the Ashes. It's great to see and hear. He is being honest why do people want to knock him.
I wonder if Ange likes all of these press conferences every time I come on RUclips he’s on answering the same questions. Would he rather be on the training ground ? As far as players social media don’t go on it ( maybe ) Oh and I believe in Ange Come on you Spurs
Im sorry but i cant feel bad for Brennan hes not a little kid, hes a grown professional baller, quality players work to prove doubters wrong, all he does is provide more ammo, its not alll his fault we messed up signing him, hes a forest level player not fit for a top 6 side.
So...that makes it OK to personally abuse him? If you do a bad job at work one day, would it be OK if someone started doing that to you? Or would you, as AP suggested punch them in the face?
Ange is probably the perfect manager for Johnson
He’s a winner and Tottenham is just lucky to have him as a manager…manU would love to have him rebuild their team 😊
💯 agree. That’s the thing I was thinking when the fans were losing it this week.
He has come to the club and just tried to make us win. He has just tried to bring in positivity. He has played positive attacking football and got us to 5th place doing it.
Has brought in many young up and coming players who will continue to bring success to the club for years to come.
Lots of people making fun of him. But lots of clubs would love to have exciting, attacking and successful football.
This is still year one!!!
Give the guy time to cook.
Ange places unneeded extra pressure on Johnson, refusing to drop him. Why - it was his down to his judgment signing him & also trying in vain to justify the crazy transfer fee, where Forest stuck a finger in the air, thought up an outrageous number & then doubled it for good luck.
No one refuses to give Ange time. No one can say his system doesnt work. But if he continues to buy Mid Players who cant execute his system to perfection like Pep, Klopp or Arteta then it doesnt matter if he is given 100 years to instill his philosophy it just wont work on this elite level
Not for abusing Brenan or any player. But you cannot say his performances do not warrant critisism. He is an Ange signing and his position is crucial to the way Ange plays. But besides wayward crosses and shot attempts, he has not even attempted taking players on. At least Odobert tries.
The game was against Arsenal and we lost twice against them last season which was unacceptable for them to lose again at home it’s painful and frustrating big Ange doesn’t understand the what the fans are going through.. the guy is very naive and he doesn’t understand.
Re Ange's comments re success in the second season, I think the reason it irks British people is that it is just not normal in British culture for people to big themselves up in that way. Mourinho had the same backlash following his "special one" comments back in 2004. Whether we like it or not, in Britain, we generally resent or dismiss the success of others rather than encourage or be happy for those who succeed, which is far more of an American thing.
Complete tosh. It boils down to actions speak louder than words.
Win a game before talking about a trophy.
Ange is one of the coaches city is looking to replace pep when he leaves..if this guy gets a team like city..thats gonna hurt for rivals
I don't how you could look at this manager and want him gone. Careful what you wish for.
He is fine. Bentancur should be getting criticism.
His win percentage is so low.
Sarr and Bissouma for some stupid reason are second choice but they got us to be top spot in premier league.
Johnson is able to get in great positions and always wants to go forward.
If Kane was here he would be amazing.
Johnson just needs to get a bit more polished and match sharp
Big Ange your the best .
Fans criticizing Johnson is not helping him play better. All it does is knocks his confidence even more. If anything it makes his form even worse
12:19 😂😂😂
There is too much talk from the fans, the players and the manager.
It’s time to focus and deliver performances and win matches.
I’m fed up with the amount of hot air from all quarters.
It’s all very boring now, mate. Managers get judged on results, all we do is lose against anybody half decent.
Like him or dislike him it’s a results business.
Spurs have had 6 years of “ improving “ under Mourinho , Nuno , Conte , Mason and now Ange , so I guess one more year of that won’t hurt much .
Love Ange ❤️
Over the years seen L'pool & Man U both start badly and do well later in the season. Let's see what happens. Still think he underestimated the strength of the PL. The team is inflexible and plays one way. Much more attractive than Conte or Mourinho teams but some positive results are needed and soon.
There’s a difference between saying
“I always win in my second season”
and
“I have always won in my second season”
the later , he can claim as fact but it’s not what he said.
having said that, no big deal at all, fair play for entertaining press conferences 😂
Ange needs to stop this approach with the media - just keep it simple - getting dragged into a rabbit hole here
14:42 Why cant you apply that thought to your tactics?
What do you think a manager do all the time on the pitch on matchday ??? Sticking his finger up his arse ??? It's the players ffs that isn't following the plan. Look at the player's last season or during Everton and compare it with Newcastle or Arsenal. Huge drop off in confidence, thus poor performances.
We Love you Brennan 💙
Ange is the man. All his detractors know fuck all about football. They will be saying how great he is in a couple of months.
If Spurs get rid of this guy another club will grab him very quickly.
4 games in and spurs fans are already unhappy!!! give it some time guys! Solanke has played 1 game,the new lads are only 4 games in!
I'm ashamed of our fans. Can't we support our manager and players. Brennan will come good, but only if we support and love him. Frankly, some of our fans are embarrassing.
Flaky fans one year down the line when Ange out people have gotten what they want and there's a new manager taking charge: "How could this have happened to us? Why does our team suck? No one could've possibly seen it coming! It couldn't have possibly been that I was the weak link!"
Had a fantastic start, though need to look at Spurs win ratio since. It's not great, it's relegation form. Love Ange for his positivity though his tactics clearly aren't working, being used to the Scottish and Australian league, and he needs to stop being so arrogant and accept different ideas. It's a good team, just not being used correctly right now.
It's not Ange, he's definitely capable of winging a trophy or two. The problem is Levy, he'll never bring in the players needed for Ange to win a trophy or two. We all know how this season will end up, don't let Levy delude you into thinking it'll be a successful one.
To go and take a personal jab at brennan is ridiculous. You can say he had a bad game, fine. Leave it at that.
Shouldn't have to deal with the abuse. He is Pony though, that's clear for all to see 👍 I doubt he'd had got intonour worst 1990's side.
He looks clinically depressed. You can see he has had enough managing the club.
No one is saying anything about our set piece coach ryan mason
Poor Ange, british media attention more about him than the football,
Let’s see the next 12/15 results
The problem isn't you Ange, it's the weak willed fans projecting their own shortcomings onto you.
My manager 💯
Time for Ange to leave the club and take Brennan with you
Im sorry Johnson doesnt have it and never will he is 23 doesnt have a touch, cant cross, cant shoot, and is unaware of where his players are these skills are built when your young even in his prime he will not improves these exhibit A Timo Werner. Johnson is Forest level at best time and positives vibes cant save him
@@jordanbeckford7044 I find it hilarious how Forrest sold him for 50 mil to us and ended up improving their team by signing Hudson odoi for 10 mil
What the f*** waffling about?Jesse can cross know one else makes a run to support him
What rubbish. Brennon has been our best attacking player for the past year. It's not his fault no one is ever in the box to support him or receive his crosses!
@mdewsall17 I'm gonna say I agree to avoid dealing with you silly fans that overhype players such as Johnson that wouldn't even start on Wolves
If Johnson and Solanke can find the chemistry of Sin and Kane, it'll be great.
Johnson is a bang average player. He'd probably be alright in a 2 up top system which Ange doesn't use anyway. Sell him in January
But hes playing for Spurs this season just accept it and kiss your wife
That's what he was playing in Nottingham...I didn't understand the thought process behind the purchase
He's not gonna be sold in january , so I'll keep crying
@@enemy_of_progress exactly. He’s a second striker/inside forward. Similar to how Son is. We are completely wasting him and Son playing them as wingers. Poor kid it’s not really his fault.
Hindsight pays
Fact is, Kulu is the only RF, who is not being used in this position. But Brennen needs competition. Same for Son, he needs to be benched, work and deserve his spot. With the overflow of left wingers it's not difficult to replace him. And more passionated and energetic players should wear the cpt. badge tbh. Pedro, Vicario, VDV. Son is a jocker. Don't get me wrong, for what I know he is funny and likes jocking around, this is a great thing for the team, but this is exactly the reason, why I personally, won't take him seriously!
To be honest. Brennan Johnson would be just an average player in the A league. He really is limited.
Grown men earning millions crying because they're being criticised for being crap at their job. GROW UP
I don't even get it. He's not playing that much worse than anyone else. He was our best player agaisnt Newcastle