"Restless" (4x22) | *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* Reaction
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- I hope you enjoy my reaction to Season Four, Episode Twenty Two of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer': "Restless".
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This is probably the most unique and experimental episode of any show I've ever seen. What other show would have the guts to do a trippy dream sequence as a season finale?
twin peaks, In fact I love them both
For me this is, hands down, the best representation of what having a dream feels like, that I've seen in any media.
I'm Thinking of Ending Things, directed by Charlie Kaufman is also a great representation of dream in movie. I'm pretty sure this episode serve as inspiration.
I would also add Abra-Rose the Hat scenes from "Doctor Sleep" to this category
What Dreams May Come with Robin Williams also does a really good job of especially showing nightmares.
@@titoluizpereira6281 Its AMAZING.
Buffy's birthday dream in season 2 was also pretty good too.
"I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."
I love this episode!
you beat me to it! one of my favorite lines.
It's a line from "Man in the Iron Mask" with Dicaprio
The guy sitting with Riley, in Buffy's dream, was George Hertzberg, who played Adam.
Yes. I never recognise him without his make up. Even though I know who it is now. He has to speak before I get that.
One amazing thing was how much a suit can hide, as in the suit, he just looks like a slim Giles type, not the super buffed Adam. Did he go on to do other series? Seeing him out of makeup here was a gift to both him and us. He’s incredibly handsome.
@@RLucas3000 Wouldn't he have made a great Terminator on TSCC?
If you rewatch Primeval you’ll hear Willow calling on Sineya (the first Slayer) - they invoked the power of the Slayer line and pissed her off
According to Joss Whedon, everything in the dreams has some kind of deep, symbolic meaning - except the cheese guy. He's just a bit of fun.
*"These are lies!"*
Cass, in the DVD commentary for “Restless,” Joss Whedon says the Cheese Man is “the only thing that has no meaning,” since “there is always something in the dream that doesn't make any sense at all.”
My opinion (I'm sure there are many): The Buffy series neatly divides into two major arcs: seasons 1-3 are Buffy the teenager and seasons 5-7 are Buffy the adult. Season 4 is transitional, and 4x22 is transitional between this season and the next.
That was well stated! I agree.
Without spoiling anything, Buffy is having a prophetic dream as slayers tend to do as alluded to by the same bedroom/bed that she and Faith were making in previous episodes. However, the spell they performed in the previous episode brought all of the Scoobies into the same dreamspace. The cheese man is just that odd, completely random element that appears in most dreams. He crosses over into each of their dreams because they are sharing the same dreamspace. I recommend that you give this a rewatch after you conclude the series because there are so many great moments here in this episode that really only make sense at the conclusion of the series. There are also many great video essays on youtube you can watch once your ready that attempt to break everything down.
So, don't know if this has been pointed out already, but here goes: An interesting bit is how Willow, Xander and Giles "dies" in their respective dream. Because it matches the roles they played when they did that spell last episode. Willow was the soul, so she got her soul sucked out; Xander was the heart, so he got his heart snatched out, and Giles was the mind, so he got his brain cut out.
Just something I wanted to point out.
It's really better to think of this episode as a coda to season 4 rather than as the finale. It's mostly abstract character exploration and foreshadowing for next season. One of my favorite episodes, but I like the weird ones.
The cheese dude is just a representation of how weird dreams can be. You could be dreaming about the most mundane thing then suddenly a guy holding up slices of cheese is there.
Para mí el hombre del queso es una forma de decirnos que todo lo que sucede realmente es dentro de Buffy, recordemos que en esta temporada nos dicen en creo solo dos ocasiones que a Buffy le encanta el queso y Railey intenta acercarse a ella diciendo que le gusta el queso también. No son sueños individuales, sino que al hacer aquella magia que fusionó a Willow, Xander y Giles dentro de Buffy hizo que la propia magia que convierte a la caza vampiros en lo que es rechace a sus amigos expulsándoles fuera de ella. Me diréis ya están fuera de ella cuando la magia terminó después de derrotar a Adam, bueno imagino que algo de unión permaneció y que al estar dormidos en fase REM puede que estén conectados de alguna manera.
That's what I love so much about this episode. Dreams are so fascinating, and this captures their absurdity in such a perfect way it never fails to make me laugh. Willow's play, everyone suddenly speaking French in Xander's dream, Spike being a tourist attraction - absolutely hilarious.
Ok so giles's girlfriends is named Olivia and I don't know if you recognized the actor at the table with riley in buffy's dream, but it's the one who played Adam 😊
Willow's "what you are" was not about either sexuality or magic; as revealed by her outfit when Buffy strips off her "costume," Willow is afraid that she's still no more than the shy nerd girl of the pilot episode. Xander's dream is all about his friends leaving him behind while he can't get out of the basement. Giles is all about his role as Buffy's father figure, and whether he's got any life outside of that. And Buffy's dream is... well, Slayers have prophetic dreams so we can't discuss it without spoilers. (Side note: Tara's appearance in Buffy's dream was unplanned, Buffy was supposed to talk to Faith in the bedroom and Angel in the desert, but they couldn't get the actors scheduled for some reason, so Tara was substituted.)
Just finished the video. Willow's dream was about her fear that she's still the nerdy girl from season 1. Someone she considers weak and has worked hard not to be anymore.
This is an episode you need to rewatch after finishing the series. There's stuff you won't understand until then.
Also, after finishing the series and rewatching this episode, you should watch TPN's Buffy Guide on this. The spoilery one. It goes really in depth on everything and what it all means, including the foreshadowing of the next 3 seasons.
The scene with Snyder in the jungle was a spoof of a very famous scene of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now, the movie Xander rented that nobody wanted to see :D
since Buffy likes cheese (as Willow told Riley) I'm kinda assuming that's a part of Buffy in all of their dreams :D
"I think I've learned how to steer by gesturing emphatically" might be my favorite line of Buffy that I forget about like two minutes after the episode ends so it hits every time.
Cool, making of detail for the episode, because most of their sets were pretty much on one soundstage, for a lot of transitions between locations they just built something for the character to walk through.
I have had dreams where I’m in my car and it’s moving but I’m not actually driving it, kind of like that, where I’m trying to steer it but without touching the steering wheel, so that part of Xander’s dream really was familiar to me.
There's so many lines that work in such a primal way in this episode. I'm still always partial to Buffy's Death of a Salesman monologue and Giles' cheeseman interaction as the best parts of the episode.
Just a suggestion. You are about to begin an extremely good season of Buffy. Fans have a tendency to spoil this one. You might want to give a polite no-spoilers request every episode, and get a mod if you don't have one
Indeed - I would skip reading the comments entirely for the first two episodes due to all the trolls and spoilsports.
No, fans do not have a tendency to spoil.
She's usually at least a cpl episodes ahead by the time she drops a review
@@migmitOh, but they do.. in fact, I second OP's warning - staying clear for a few episodes isnt bad advice.
Some things are coming up, and depending on which side of the fence people fall on.. some will actively try and skew things in a certain direction - good, bad or indifferent.. and it's always right around this particular point in the show that it pops off.
@@migmityou haven’t been checking reactors’ comments sections huh
Tara only speaks for the first slayer in Buffy's dream--there's even a line where she says she was "borrowed", essentially saying that "Tara" appeared in Willow's dream, and then the first slayer used her voice and image to communicate in Buffy's.
This is definitely an episode that you get more out of in rewatches, and, personally, while I always had an affection for this episode (I have a soft spot for weird lol), I don't think I started to fully appreciate it till I'd finished the entire series. It's an episode that sort of at the "middle point" of the whole show, and looking back you can how elements in it kind of...echo out in both directions--calling backwards into the past to the beginning, while also foreshadowing into the future towards the end--which is super cool, but doesn't really come across till you've seen the entire picture lol. (Hope none of this qualifies as a spoiler, I was just trying to describe my personal experience with the episode, which might be different for others anyway. In any case, I apologize if it gives anything away--I don't THINK it does? But again, sorry if I'm wrong about that 😅)
Tara was indeed “borrowed.”
It was _supposed_ to be Faith in the bedroom scene with Buffy, and Angel in the desert.
@@arc7375
i'm personally happy we didn't get angel in the desert; i don't like him there.
Honestly, I wish the show across all seasons didn’t show the cameo or special guest actors at the start of the show. It _always_ ruins the surprise and impact of when they show up. It shoulda been kept to the end credits.
Armin Shimerman (Snyder) did an amazing job recreating the tense scene from Apocalypse Now (The movie they were 'watching'). He immediately set the atmosphere just with his voice.
There is so much information in this episode about the characters, to the smallest details. A lot of things are being set up for the next seasons characterwise. It doesn't really spoil anything but when you go through the next seasons, if you pay attention, you'll have many aha-moments.
This episode is too good! And I love that this is the finale. Something quite different from the previous ones, and from any other show. Also, don't worry, there's stuff that shouldn't make sense to you... yet! ;)
To be fair, the First Slayer is not just mad at Buffy for having friends, but she can't even comprehend the concept of a Slayer having a support system. She didn't, nor did any of the other Slayers through millenia. Plus, she existed so early in human evolution that she didn't even have language, so I'm thinking social life was not an issue XD
The cheese thing, early in season 4, when Riley was asking Willow about how to get Buffy's attention, Willow told him, Buffy likes cheese.
In Xander's dream, you saw his dad coming down the stairs, but it was not his hand that reached for Xander's heart. Replay that part, and you'll see bandages.
And then the first thing that he sees is the face of the first Slayer.
Slayers are not suppose to have help, Buffy is the first
That seems sus to me, considering there had to have been a Slayer who died in 1996
@@dustyb58 Why would 1996 have anything to do with fighting alone or not? Even Kendra was taken from her family and potential friends and made a similar point about Slayers fighting alone.
Slayer dreams are prophetic.
Buffy likes cheese.
Everyone had the cheese guy in their dream.
Everyone had prophetic dreams because they shared in the magic power share.
Now...what do these prophetic dreams indicate?
That Buffy will defeat evil with the power of her lactose tolerance.
"That was a weird cutoff."
The scene beforehand exists partially because Joss didn't want credits playing over the dream sequences (it's also why there's no pre-title sequence.) Note that the cut happens pretty much as soon as the last credit has rolled. Given that the dreams were the point of the episode, they went for an abrupt cut over making the "falling asleep" scene any longer than it had to be.
When they ripped with those clothes off underneath Willow was wearing the outfit she wore in the pilot episode. Her fear was the under everything else she's just that nerdy girl she was before she met Buffy.
Listen to every single word in this episode!!!
All your technology is definitely haunted lol
This show kind of invented the whole big bad being defeated in the season finale thing so it's interesting they also wanted to break that mold as well in the name of artistic creativity. Much that is confusing about the dreams might become clearer as the show goes on.
Blessed are the cheesemakers
I strongly suggest you to watch this episode again after the end of the show. And then again and again because it has something new to offer everytime you watch it. Half of it is a study on the evolution the charachters had up until this point ("fatal flaws" and insecurities included). Half of it is a foreshadow of what will happen, both in terms of actual events and in terms of themes that will be carried out through the show. Part of it is just the randomness of dreams. The analysis that passion of the nerd has made is very interesting and the cool thing is that he made both a spoiler and non spoiler version, for those who just finished season 4. Hope I made sense, english is not my first language.
"A watcher scoffs at gravity!" Is forever one of my favorite one-liners from TV history. xD
Restless is such an amazing episode. Fascinating, really. One of my favorites from the show and in general.
And of course, "I walk. I talk. I shop. I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out, and I don't sleep on a bed of bones. Now give me back my friends." Beautiful.
congrats on reaching the end of season 4. every season after this is an absolute banger. good luck and enjoy the ride 🫡
You really, really have to look deeper in this episode. It's incredibly rich and textured and full of many bits and pieces you absolutely missed on your first watch. You see every character through the viewpoint of each of the 4 main scoobs. And once you've finished the entire series, you’ll have a very cool experience realizing what everything here meant. Best foreshadowing in tv history.
The First Slayer: "You think you know what's to come. What you are. You haven't even begun."
That message pretty much sums up the next three seasons. And I've been enjoying the ride so far. Oh yeah 😎 Oh and uh, sorry but it sucks to be you cuz there's a troll that is just around the corner. For the rest of us, we get a kick out of it lol.
Here's my take on the cheese man:
As Joss has said, he does represent the meaningless randomness of dreams, within the world of the show. But in a meta way, he also represents the way the show itself uses humor.
"I've made a little space for the cheese slices."
Even in serious moments, the show makes room for some of its campy, cheesy humor.
"These will not protect you."
Xander frequently plays the role of comic relief, but this role doesn't make him immune to being hurt.
"I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."
The humor doesn't control the show. It serves to break up the serious and sometimes overly dramatic moments, but doesn't overpower them.
Finally, it's the sight of the cheese man that breaks Buffy out of the dream, and her humor is a vital part of her ability to save the day.
Y'all......HERE. WE. GO!
23:16 I think the thing with Olivia in the dreams is that she and Giles had broken up and she was crying over the empty baby carriage because she wanted a child but Giles didn’t and that may have been the reason. But I’m not sure, that’s up to interpretation.
You’ll find out how it was related to next season.
Buffy's dream at the end was supposed to have Angel talking to her, but when Boreanaz was unavailable they gave the part to Tara.
The way I understand it, the slayer is a human sacrifice, she's meant to be alone and to die to keep the evil spirits at bay. Buffy has refused to be alone, refused to die, for the first time in history 2 slayers are alive at once with Kendra then Faith, some powerful primal magics in the essence of the slayer passed on from generation to generation has been broken because Buffy is not alone.
I interpret this as the spirit of the first slayer, trying to protect what the slayer was first created to be. They also called on her spirit to join and fight with them in the enjoining spell in primeval, so she had been enlisted to join in a fight she had long since retired from.
Hard disagree. Buffy is doing it right, and the First Slayer is a brainwashed dummy. She drank the Watcher Kool-aid
@@adgato75 How on earth did you figure I was saying that I think the first slayer is *right* for wanting to kill our leads in their sleep because Buffy refuses to be isolated and die like the sacrifice she was expected to be? Who would say that? 😂
Notice the methods of each of their deaths. Willow was killed by having her breath taken from her, Xander his heart, and Giles his brain. These are the totem elements that each of these three represents to Buffy. Also, the last element of each of their deaths was them at their greatest fear.
Willow: It wasn't her clothes that Buffy stripped away from Willow, but her mask. Willow has grown into this powerful cool person with friends and interests. But when we first met Willow, she was a meek nerd. In her final scene before being "killed" She was stripped of the mask of coolness and returned to her nerd persona. That thing she feared people would realize was her true self. That which she was hiding from everyone else that Tara mentioned to her.
Xander: He is afraid of his aimless self. He has no apparent direction while his friends are heading towards something. Hence the Apocolypse Now dream about being in the military, gaining direction from enlistment that he feared his friends thought would be good for him, and his rejection of that when he said he is a comfortador and not a soldier. We have references to both his possession by a military costume and his costume for Mummy Girl coming back in his dreams. But the thing that killed him, was his fear of his father. There have been mild hints that Xander's home life was abusive, and this seems to confirm this.
Giles: We see Giles multiple times as a father figure in his dreams. He has been a surrogate father to Buffy, and Buffy is becoming an adult woman who it seems no longer needs him anymore, he is feeling lost in his role, Just as the 1st Slayer had no watcher, Buffy, he fears no longer needs him as her watcher. That is his fear that killed him.
"What the fuck is up with that cheese guy?" A question we've been asking ourselves for 24 years...
We've had a fair number of references to how bad Xanders homelife is over the seasons but this is the first time its not framed as humorous or referenced obliquely.
This one is my favourite, but only after watching Buffy all the way through SEVERAL times. There are so many Easter eggs and levels of character assessment in this episode, but it's an acquired taste, mostly for avid fans. It's not usually appreciated or understood by first time watchers, but your assessment is really good.
Xander is the heart. Rupert was the mind. Willow was the hand.
Buffy was the hand. Willow was the spirit.
don't comment if you can't even get it right !!!!
I love it every time Giles sings. 😁
The thing with Willow was just her being a nerd still
"It's the upside down!", who else ever wondered if Joss was a ghost writer for Stranger Things? Boy, how handsome is Adam with his makeup removed?
7:12 "Are we talking about witchy stuff or are we talking about sexuality?" Well, Xander _did_ say that, when he thinks about two women doing a spell together, sometimes he then goes off and does a spell by himself. Did you think he was talking about magic? 🤭
Also not sure if you noticed but the guy who was with Riley in Buffy’s dream was “human Adam”
The part that was a boy scout.
Why wouldn't Riley be in the following seasons?
I also have to say that Tara looks especially hot in Xander's dream sequence.
I've always liked this episode, but I always thought it was a polarizing one in the fandom (from talking to others). The reaction so far from the comments seems to be generally positive though. I cannot wait for the highs and lows of season 5.
Agree with the belittling of the First Slayer. Then again the very few WOC are belittled on this show.
I can't even express how fun it is to watch you continually try to make sense of this episode, lol.
To my understanding the First Slayer never learned to communicate or speak due to the people that made her the slayer…(first counsel) also (spoilers lol)
this is a great episode to watch again once you’ve finished the series! soooo much foreshadowing and moments of pure character study here
On this episode of "Cass Theorizes"! She won't get anything right. Even the cheese.
this is definitely one of those episode you either just GET, or you gotta come back to after the finale, hahaha
For me, Snyder as Brando is the highlight of the whole episode.
I've watched so much Buffy and it just occurred to me that Buffy was the first slayer to ever talk to another slayer, and this is the third time she's been able to talk to another one.
counterpoint: the enjoining spell came out of a book, and it's rather specific to the slayer. it seems rather odd to think that the spell's been written down but for some reason never used before. more likely, other slayers have called on the power of the first slayer, in which case the first slayer may have haunted their dreams as well.
@@sirmoonslosthismind An interesting point, but Buffy was the first to talk to another slayer in "real life."
All praise the Cheese Man! This is a rather quotable episode. ''Watchers scoff at gravity''.
I commented on your last one that I would add a comment on this reaction, while avoiding any hints (I hope!)
S4E21 showed us what seemed to be the "deus ex machina" that could get the scoobs out of EVERY situation. Simply, "Scoobies Assemble!" and defeat every potential enemy. So the way I interpret this episode is that it is the powers that be telling them that they cannot draw on this superpower without repercussions. Each character has a nightmare that corresponds to their role in the "Super Buffy". This is as close as Joss ever got to a David Lynch vibe, in my opinion.
Also, Xander's dream was a really cool reveal of the way that the set was laid out to film the show. And if you have never seen "Apocalypse Now," that scene with Schneider is an homage to an iconic scene from that movie.
Giles has yet another musical moment!
Seeing Adam as a human was interesting. Buffy rejecting the First Slayer's demands to have no friends was wonderful, and I loved her reaction.
Thanks for carrying us along on your first viewing of this wonderful series!
The only predictable thing about Buffy is that it will subvert your expectations.
the fact that you are switching to a watch along format on patreon hurts my heart. especially for season 5 of buffy.
I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back
The next season is my absolute favorite. I can't wait to see you react to it
the cheese man in my favorite part of the episode.
If you are interested, Passion of the Nerd has a Buffy Guide on his channel and he has a marvelous no-spoiler episode guide on Restless. He goes into so much detail in it. It might be worth a watch to you if you truly want to understand this episode on a deeper level.
You're about to enter a fan favorite season. This episode is full of foreshadows and conections with previous episodes and previous foreshadows
Cass, since you said you like to experience Buffy just as the people who saw it on air in the first run, I will let you know that season five was originally the final season of Buffy. The show premiered on the WB network and going into season five the show had not been renewed by WB for a sixth season. This might help you wrap your head around some of the episodes.
I posted this on your patreon, but thought it should be here too.
The question though is when did they know the series wasn't going to be renewed for SE6 exactly.
Most show don't normally find out if they are being renewed or cancelled for the next season until a handful of episodes before the final.
So it's possible they had no idea the series was ending until around episode 5x16, giving them time to wrap everything up ... or ... they were given a heads before they began writing SE5.
@@charmedoriginal5923 I am of an age where I saw Buffy on air. We knew as viewers that there wasn't going to be a season six before season five aired or very early in season five. So it is possible Joss Whedon knew before the end of season four. Most of the fans did not find out about season six until September before the October airing of the show on UPN.
One of my all time favourite episodes of Buffy.
So many important Easter eggs and great representation of dreams.
This is a perfect transition into season 5, which is my favourite season
With the bedroom dream scenes between Buffy and Faith in seasons 3 and 4 and this episode (Faith was supposed to be in the bedroom scene in Buffy’s Dream here, but Eliza Dushku was not available) we get the entire plot of season 5. But it’s so ambiguous that you won’t get it u til the end of season 5 needless to say, the set-up and payoff across seasons is quite remarkable.
In a way I feel sorry for Cass. I watched Buffy when it was first shown (yes, I am that old) and I remember what it was like. People sharing ideas on websites specifically about Buffy. Members of the writing team and sometimes even Joss himself dropping in. Numerous publications and books related to Buffy and breaking the episodes down. I can hardly wait for Cass reaction to Willow and Tara in season 6 and Spike and Xander in season 7 (I don't think there are any spoilers in there except that Spike is in season 7). Also, what will be her reaction to "Once More With Feeling"?
The best season finale of the show up to this point. IMO. A masterpiece of introspection but also the way it's filmed, incorporating the different genres of film: existential, mise-en-scene, horror, film noir. This episode is very layered, it has it all: symbolism, philosophy and even nods to other films like "Apocalypse Now." It's amazing and I love it so much.
Para mí el hombre del queso es una forma de decirnos que todo lo que sucede realmente es dentro de Buffy, recordemos que en esta temporada nos dicen en creo solo dos ocasiones que a Buffy le encanta el queso y Railey intenta acercarse a ella diciendo que le gusta el queso también. No son sueños individuales, sino que al hacer aquella magia que fusionó a Willow, Xander y Giles dentro de Buffy hizo que la propia magia que convierte a la caza vampiros en lo que es rechace a sus amigos expulsándoles fuera de ella. Me diréis ya están fuera de ella cuando la magia terminó después de derrotar a Adam, bueno imagino que algo de unión permaneció y que al estar dormidos en fase REM puede que estén conectados de alguna manera.
Part of Xander's dream was a parody of movie, "Apocalypse Now". Snyder was playing Marlon Brando's role and Xander was playing Martin Sheen's role Willow appearing as her first appearance in episode 1 as a computer nerd. She has evolved over the show, but she is still a little self conscious of that part of her identity.
I would say this is an episode to rewatch after getting further in the series. Attempting to explain some of it can inadvertently spoil.
According to Joss, the cheese guy literally means nothing. He’s just there to be the one element that is completely random, bizarre, and makes no sense, because everyone has that one part of their dream that just seemingly defies analysis or explanation.
The original plan was to have Faith talk with Buffy in the bedroom, and Angel show up in the desert. Both actors were busy, so they went with Tara instead.
That have always been a rumor among fans but have never been confirmed by any one at Mutant Enemy. Even on the commentary track for this episode Joss only says this: "The idea that Tara would be her spirit guide made sense because she didn't have that particular relationship with Tara, and Tara has a kind of good Wiccan mystical energy.".
The claim is often made that they have seen this in the original script, but how they managed to see it is never talked about nor have any one ever been able to provide a copy of it.
@@Henrik_Holst Interesting, thanks!
@@Henrik_HolstI think the actors discussed it during a Q&A session at a convention somewhere.
@@arc7375 never been able to find a video of that either, but then not everything is on YT and Buffy predates YT by a large margin so I guess that it's possible.
Then ofc comes the question on how much the actors are in the know when it comes to things like these (consider that Joss talks about how great it is to have Tara as Buffy:s spirit guide in the commentary and he makes a comparison to a person that I cannot mention due to spoilers but that appears in S5 so you know who) and I've heard actors say the strangest things before that doesn't match what the writers or producers have said.
I was thinking about joining the Patreon, but then I saw you're switching to watch-along format. I do own all the episodes on DVD, but the only trouble is they're European PAL DVD's, so they run 4% faster than American DVD's, which would make them go out of sync with the reaction videos. So I guess I'll just have to settle for these edited reactions on YT (which are excellent, I'm not complaining).
The bedroom scene with Buffy and Tara was originally meant to be Buffy and Faith. Buffy and Faith shared a bedroom scene in season 3 and earlier in season 4.
And Angel was supposed to be the one that lead Buffy to the desert.
Unfortunately, both actors were unable to be available for the taping, so Tara was used instead.
On the one hand, disappointing, but on the other hand, we got more Tara.
If Giles is Buffy’s mind, Willow is her Spirit, and Xander is her Heart, then I’d strongly put forward the case that Tara is Buffy’s compassion.
This is excellent to watch after the series is over. There are references to things for the next episode all the way through the last season.
Yes, finally! Been checking for this since yesterday. ❤️
Awww she is sooooo cute "I'm prepared "
Just under twelve minutes into the video, I'm not prepared to deal with Snyder.
OK.
First of all, you're the first person I've seen who jumped to conclusion that Tara was ALWAYS the voice of the first slayer. That's crazy.
Secondly, Giles' girlfriend was called Olivia, and they clearly parted at the end of “Hush”. They are only together in one little scene from Giles' dream.
We’ve dreamt of relationships we’ve lost. Very bittersweet.
Also shows how being a Watcher stops Giles from having a normal life, keeping him away from love and from having g children of his own shown as he and Olivia push around an empty baby carriage).
It compliments how Buffy’s duty as the Slayer keeps her from forming lasting relationships.
The Snyder Scene is a spoof on Apocalypse Now.
"Loved you in Wall Steet!"
The cheese guy was just to show it's a dream and dreams can be weird at times, that's all. Although, now wen you meet a Buffy fan in the wild you can drop a "I wear the cheese, it does not wear me" line and see if they get the reference.
We learn more about who Tara really is and the consequences of having her in the group over the next two seasons. You are not going to expect it, nor see it coming, I can hardly wait. As for Riley's fate, well, that's another thing you're going to have to see to believe.
I spent decades trying to figure out the Cheese Guy. So things dealing with cheese on rewatches like Buffy turning into a rat or Riley telling Buffy he likes cheese got collated as potential clues. Then someone stated in the comments of a reaction video that the writers wanted something completely meaningless in the dreams so they added the Cheese Guy.
Letting you know so he won't haunt you the way he haunted me. But so many other Easter eggs and foreshadowing in this episode. It will seem very different on future rewatches once you know what's coming. Yes, that was the same bed she was making in Faith's coma dream, for instance. And there's a connection to her previous shared dream and future events.
It’s always one of my favourite episodes- so rewatchable and you will pick up different things every time you do!
Just wanted to say, excellent job for a first watch-thru of this episode. It’s complicated but you nailed the essentials.
Bed dream with faith "gotta get ready for....."
With Tara..."always darkest........
" (Same thing robo girl said)
Yup, broke your brain. Told ya so.....
Huh.. thats weird. I can see my reply under another reply, but it says there are only two replies, and when I view the page in private mode my post is hidden, so I assume RUclips is ghosting me for some reason.
All I said was "I believe Joss once said as much [re the cheese guy being a random element].. but I like the interpretation that the line of cheese is the line of slayers."
No matter what he says, I doubt anything he puts in is truly random.
It may represent the randomness of dreams, but that doesn't mean he put it in randomly.
I think it has to do with the reviews of how cheesy the show could be at times. And each reference is him attacking back at those criticisms in some way
We know Joss isn't necessarily the best person... But he is an incredible writer 🤷
10:57 ..."What's up with the cheese guy?"... If you ask me, I think the cheese guy is a joke, a prank for those who overthink things too hard, trying to find secret meanings where there are none.... I mean, is something Joss would definitely do, right?
Joss literally said that that is what it is
That's a good idea. Gaslight her so Cass doesn't realize the Cheese Guy is the central character of the entire rest of the show
Para mí el hombre del queso es una forma de decirnos que todo lo que sucede realmente es dentro de Buffy, recordemos que en esta temporada nos dicen en creo solo dos ocasiones que a Buffy le encanta el queso y Railey intenta acercarse a ella diciendo que le gusta el queso también. No son sueños individuales, sino que al hacer aquella magia que fusionó a Willow, Xander y Giles dentro de Buffy hizo que la propia magia que convierte a la caza vampiros en lo que es rechace a sus amigos expulsándoles fuera de ella. Me diréis ya están fuera de ella cuando la magia terminó después de derrotar a Adam, bueno imagino que algo de unión permaneció y que al estar dormidos en fase REM puede que estén conectados de alguna manera.
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@@thelegendofdavid3653 Hombre, entendería que Buffy fuese el centro de unión entre sueños, pero hay partes de los sueños de los otros muy apegados a su psicología como para ser creados por ella, como los traumas de Xander con su familia, el miedo de Willow a su pasado o el que Giles siga pensando en Buffy como una niña... Aunque lo de que Buffy le gusta el queso es un detalle que se me había pasado, eso es cierto.
The star of the dream is Cheese Man! Such a cool episode!
Oh wow, I thought Cass's head was going to explode. "I'm just going to go with it". Proceeds to analyze and theorize and lose her mind until smoke started pouring out of her ears xD I really liked this episode, it was so bizarre and yet meaningful.
It's such a shame more actors couldn't reprise their roles. There are rumours that Whedon wanted Cordelia and Faith to appear, plus Angel in Buffy's desert scene to speak for the First Slayer.
I found the concept of the First Slayer intriguing and it made me want to know more Slayer lore. Don't know why Buffy was ragging on her hair though; I thought it looked awesome.
The Cheese Guy was inserted as the weird element you often get in dreams that makes no sense.
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Cass, tomorrow May 20, 2024 marks the 21st Anniversary of when "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" series ended it's run.