I always love Chef and Bard videos - hugely entertaining. For what it's worth - I only clicked like this because Chef made it so awkward with that whisper.
That was such an awesome battle! I expected the Necrons to wipe the floor but it was engaging all throughout! Also, hope you fellas are taking care of yourselves. It is appreciated when you go back for corrections but completely understandable when you have so much stuff to keep track of, between different armies, mission and primary rules, etc.
I remember when I first started playing the game and was wrapping my head around the chapters. "Okay so the Dark Angels have a regular version, a terminator version, and... a fast version that likes bikes. and is named Ravenwing. And uses black and white colours. Man the White Scars and Raven Guard players must hate this chapter"
That was a great game, really enjoyed it. I note you guys used the old pill bases for the black knights, most competitive scenes insist on using the bases the models are currently sold with, is that not something you've looked at? Keep up the great work, the extra effects, the various views etc all add to a great watch experience - and we don't care that you messed up the score, it happens and you caught it :)
Not something we've looked at, nor really fussed by, as we're not taking them to other competitive scenes 🙂 The Wraiths would also be on incorrect bases by that logic, however both units are using the bases they were supplied with at the time, and there's no inconsistencies in units - if some of the Knights were on different bases, that'd be more of an issue 🙂
Ravenwing were probably the only wing of the Codex that came out mostly unscathed, so making a list around them is the best bet aside from just soupong Azreal and a Darkshroud into boring Marines.
Have a question, for the ravenwing outriders including the apothecary can you still play with them right now ? Can’t seem to see it in the online rules
The songs when the rounds are announced are fire ! Can someone tell me the names? Awesome video as always by the way, the only channel that i have ended up following cause it's just great every time all the time.
Can someone tell me why Chef was able to Hyperphase turn one given that Hyperphase specifically says the units are placed into Strat Reserves? I’d love to be able to do this but don’t think I can 🤔
It's a very complicated string of rules interaction. They boil down to if you go second you can arrive turn 1 if the unit didn't start the game in reserve BUT (capitals because its an important caveat) only if it has a method of arriving that isn't standard walk on from a board edge (usually deepstrike but the necrons 3" anywhere deployment counts for this).
I found out today how much I enjoy your content. Any other channel battle report, as soon as I saw that Necron list I would have stopped watching and gone to the next video (seeing the top units in the top detachment cookie cuttered every game gets boring fast). All I can figure is the attitudes and entertainment value override my distaste for those style army lists ^^
Remember with the mission rule (Targets of Opportunity), Bard had his 2 Fixed *and* a random Tactical each turn, so he maxed them out due to the 3rd Secondary as well 🙂 -Chef
Holy hell - are you serious? This DA list made it this close with these rolls against a double C'Tan hypercrypt meta list? This is great news for dark angel players, surely.
Why is it that heavy destroyers always seems to wiff? Hate that necrons got so unpredictable shooting. Manage to shatter star eating gods but can't kill airplanes...
That's not a modifier though, it's part of the overall damage characteristic, per the Designers Commentary- it explicitly states those aren't modifiers 🙂 -Chef
I could be wrong, as I don't know how DA works or the detachment, etc, but I'm pretty sure all Aircraft units HAVE to start in strategic reserves? So the Dark Talon/Jetfighter wouldn't be able to show up till T2, and wouldn't be able to move until T3??? Please correct me if I am wrong, I am just reading the Aircraft rules on the app!!
If they have the Hover rule (which they do) they can elect to start the game in Hover mode, allowing them to set up normally, and lose all associated aircraft rules 🙂 Search for Hover in the App and its all explained there - Chef
@@Pylfer Just worth noting that Hover is an ability that will be next to "CORE: .." on the datasheet, not a keyword. One of my gaming friends didn't realize this and was just checking the keywords, he was happy when I pointed it out to him as he wanted to use his planes but the aircraft rules stopped him.
That’s fair and it’s your channel - you do you. I just find it a little funny calling out Tau Crisis Suits with triple Cyclic Ion Blasters and then bringing two C’Tan, when unoptimized lists can’t even handle ONE C’Tan.
Not sure when CIBs were mentioned here 😅 But I quite rightly say I'm a terrible human being as I use said C’tan, as well as saying they either didn't need the FnP in the first place, or need a points bump, which I've also mentioned elsewhere. So its not like I'm being blind to their issues, but at the same time, multiple enslaved star gods is fun, and the League is precisely the time for people to bring those optimised lists 🙂 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics CIBs have been mentioned in other videos. I get it. League is where it gets more competitive. 👍 Love the content by the way! Easily the best WH40k channel on YT. 😊
@@tabletoptactics I feel that. In joining my gaming friends playing 40k 10th edition (I haven't played 40k since 7th and had sold everything), I was going to pick up Votann or Chaos Knights as they seemed fun for casual play. One of my friends insisted I play my favourite army Necrons (to the point of buying me the combat patrol for Xmas last year..), I wasn't going to as while they are my favourite fluff and models. Playing them in the past wasn't the most enjoyable for opponents.. I am now playing Necrons, which funnily enough currently proclaimed "the most OP army" by the loud internet people. So when one of the group brings it up I can just point at my friend mentioned above and say "blame him, I was going to play something else". Thankfully the only models I currently own from "the OP lists" is a Technomancer, Szeras & Plasmancer. And my preferred play style is Awakened Dynasty detachment. Hopefully they will fix the Void Dragon's points by the time I get around to buying one, such a sexy model!
You folks are always a joyful class act in your games. It inspires me to do my best to have that positivity in my games.
What better way to start a Saturday morning than a nice battle report with two spiffing chaps with two very different armies? :D
I always love Chef and Bard videos - hugely entertaining.
For what it's worth - I only clicked like this because Chef made it so awkward with that whisper.
James making sounds with his models is so wholesome.
Chef and Bard on the screen, beard in comments! You all are such a good team! Love you to bits! ❤
Servo skull throwing some shade in the tool-tips. 😂
Always great to see Chef and Bard play. Great game, really fun to watch.
If you can't laugh at your own mistakes, how can you expect others 😅 - Chef
Keeps getting better! You guys are great! Love the integrity of the work as well.
Literally a perfect format for 40k. Always a great watch.
That was such an awesome battle! I expected the Necrons to wipe the floor but it was engaging all throughout!
Also, hope you fellas are taking care of yourselves. It is appreciated when you go back for corrections but completely understandable when you have so much stuff to keep track of, between different armies, mission and primary rules, etc.
Unexpeceted but truly appreciated. Love the tactics and thought explaining 👌. Great for noobs like me!
I remember when I first started playing the game and was wrapping my head around the chapters.
"Okay so the Dark Angels have a regular version, a terminator version, and... a fast version that likes bikes. and is named Ravenwing. And uses black and white colours. Man the White Scars and Raven Guard players must hate this chapter"
As a RG player, yes. I hate DA lol
In 10th edition they are better White Scars than the White Scars.
The home tournament idea is genius boys and girls it makes every game you play worth something, thanks guys
I was wondering is it full proof or can people cheat because that would be a shame
Ohhh, Jaaames 😔 Those early dice rolls.
To be fair, considering the current state of Dark Angels this is pretty good. Especially against a two C’tan Necrons list
i love your channel :D, you show everything with camera zoom, i love it
Thank you! We try our best to balance tactical views of the table with the beautiful miniatures. Glad you like it!
- Beard
Top battle report. Beautiful table set up. Two great armies 👍
My two favourite armies. Perfect!
I’ve been looking for this channel forever, found you!
Great batrep. As always, very enjoyable. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I think the heavy destroyers reroll 1s against vehicles and monsters with the cannon. great game :)
To Wound yes, but alas not Hits 🙂 - Chef
Great game, beautiful minis, beautiful blokes. what more could we ask for
As a Dark Angels fan that was painful dude.
These armies and table, feast for the eyes thanks gents.
Super entertaining as always. Thanks guys.
That was a great game, really enjoyed it. I note you guys used the old pill bases for the black knights, most competitive scenes insist on using the bases the models are currently sold with, is that not something you've looked at? Keep up the great work, the extra effects, the various views etc all add to a great watch experience - and we don't care that you messed up the score, it happens and you caught it :)
Not something we've looked at, nor really fussed by, as we're not taking them to other competitive scenes 🙂 The Wraiths would also be on incorrect bases by that logic, however both units are using the bases they were supplied with at the time, and there's no inconsistencies in units - if some of the Knights were on different bases, that'd be more of an issue 🙂
Ravenwing were probably the only wing of the Codex that came out mostly unscathed, so making a list around them is the best bet aside from just soupong Azreal and a Darkshroud into boring Marines.
Have a question, for the ravenwing outriders including the apothecary can you still play with them right now ? Can’t seem to see it in the online rules
James the emperor wants his dark age weapons back for a warranty check😅
Kind of scary how strongly James remind me of Michael MacIntyre.
11:10 I understood that reference. Nanananananana!!!
This comes out of left field but congrats on being in Wonka Chef!
I'm not sure I want to know 😅 - Chef
@@tabletoptactics one on the actors Mathew baynton looks surprisingly like you.
The songs when the rounds are announced are fire ! Can someone tell me the names? Awesome video as always by the way, the only channel that i have ended up following cause it's just great every time all the time.
The music are all licensed tracks from Premium Beat - not readily accessible I'm afraid!
@@tabletoptactics Aw that's sad. Well, thanks for the reply!
James you need to bin those black dice!
Where did you get all those bikes from and with the plasma guns mounted on them?
There should be a chaosgod for explosions in this Game cause explosions are FUN
I'm sorry if I missed it, but where is the battle mat from please, and which size?
is the "and they called it a nine" a quote from somewhere?
They called it a mine is the original phrase. Gimli from LoTR.
cheers@@codybates2419
Awesome game I think you need to throw out those dice all those ones and twos.
I wish there was a list of others who are part of the league recording their matches
There is in our app - it’s free to join and view :)
Chef had insane rolls
Can someone tell me why Chef was able to Hyperphase turn one given that Hyperphase specifically says the units are placed into Strat Reserves? I’d love to be able to do this but don’t think I can 🤔
Units with Deep Strike are allowed to arrive Turn 1 if placed into Strategic Reserve, per both the Core Rules and Designers Commentary 🙂
It's a very complicated string of rules interaction. They boil down to if you go second you can arrive turn 1 if the unit didn't start the game in reserve BUT (capitals because its an important caveat) only if it has a method of arriving that isn't standard walk on from a board edge (usually deepstrike but the necrons 3" anywhere deployment counts for this).
Thank you !
Thank YOU for watching!
- Beard
I found out today how much I enjoy your content.
Any other channel battle report, as soon as I saw that Necron list I would have stopped watching and gone to the next video (seeing the top units in the top detachment cookie cuttered every game gets boring fast).
All I can figure is the attitudes and entertainment value override my distaste for those style army lists ^^
Very fun as always. But can only make 20 points for each fixed secundary. It’s imposible to max out those secundaries in turn 4
Remember with the mission rule (Targets of Opportunity), Bard had his 2 Fixed *and* a random Tactical each turn, so he maxed them out due to the 3rd Secondary as well 🙂 -Chef
Oh, sorry, I’m from Spain and I miss that part. Bad English jajajajaja
What strength are the ravenwing black knights weapons? How were they wounding a T11 C’tan on 4s in combat?
I believe they have anti-monster 4+
- Beard
When they charge they wound monsters and vehichles on 4+.
@@tabletoptactics Beautiful, thanks for the answer ❤
I’m not sure the apothecary can return the ancient now, as he cannot return character models and they are now characters
Only the Champion has the Character Keyword, so he can't be revived but the Ancient can 🙂 -Chef
While you're down there...give us a like. Chef it's before the watershed 😂
The “Waving Wing” 👋🏾
When you remove 2-4 units in Hypercrypt legion they are placed in strategic reserves, can they then come back down on your first turn???!!!
If those units have Deep Strike yes, which all those units I chose did 🙂 -Chef
sick bikes like damn
GL James
How do I subscribe to the tabletop tactics if I’m not from Europe and don’t have access to euros?
We accept payments via PayPal 🙂
Wait, you cant have flyers on the board at turn 1 right?
If they have Hover you can 🙂 -Chef
How many points is the DA list? Im coming up with 1435 points, I must be missing something
This was filmed before the MFM updates to the Codex
@@tabletoptactics Thanks! I just started playing 40k. Love this channel, you guys have an awesome chemistry.
Holy hell - are you serious? This DA list made it this close with these rolls against a double C'Tan hypercrypt meta list? This is great news for dark angel players, surely.
That da list is beautiful
Glad you enjoyed buddy! - Bard
Jobs done!
Why is it that heavy destroyers always seems to wiff? Hate that necrons got so unpredictable shooting. Manage to shatter star eating gods but can't kill airplanes...
Such is the nature of weapons that get 1 attack.
They wiff the same amount as other weapons do, but you notice it more because you only roll 1 dice ^^
@@keithrogers6876Yeah i know, that and the fact that they have the capacity to wound the big scary targets. Still don't make it any less annoying.
Need more Jinx! 😍😍😍
FAQ note, halving damage is before modifiers.
What modifier was there? -Chef
Lascannons are D6+1 damage. The die roll is halved then add the modifiers.@@tabletoptactics
I don't think there was any damage modifiers
That's not a modifier though, it's part of the overall damage characteristic, per the Designers Commentary- it explicitly states those aren't modifiers 🙂 -Chef
Man the Lions 350pts
Good game
Helllllllllll yes Necrons!
I could be wrong, as I don't know how DA works or the detachment, etc, but I'm pretty sure all Aircraft units HAVE to start in strategic reserves? So the Dark Talon/Jetfighter wouldn't be able to show up till T2, and wouldn't be able to move until T3??? Please correct me if I am wrong, I am just reading the Aircraft rules on the app!!
If they have the Hover rule (which they do) they can elect to start the game in Hover mode, allowing them to set up normally, and lose all associated aircraft rules 🙂 Search for Hover in the App and its all explained there - Chef
@@tabletoptactics Roger that. I think the models I have been playing against ONLY had the aircraft, not the hover keyword, so that makes more sense.
@@Pylfer Just worth noting that Hover is an ability that will be next to "CORE: .." on the datasheet, not a keyword.
One of my gaming friends didn't realize this and was just checking the keywords, he was happy when I pointed it out to him as he wanted to use his planes but the aircraft rules stopped him.
woooooooop wooooooop
Big necron-fan here, so nice painted minis 🤗
It is possible for the app that I can create a league for AoS?
Coming in a future update 🙂
No Nightbringer?! Whatttttt
Go team necrons! if you win i might start assembling my 2 indomnitus halfs
Build the armies for victory!
- Beard
Tesla mancer! A mancer of teslas... formally known as elon musk lol
JIMJAM WILL YOU PLEASE STOP ROLLING THIS WAY?! It stresses me out so much.
Fire the plasma! (And, possibly, keep your face unmelted...)
We should rename Bard as "Highlander" because There Can Be Only One 🎲
And he is a true hero.
- Beard
Ngl it seems like Bard takes 10 100mg Adderall before every video
Or Bard is just on 1.75x playback speed irl
Great game, but the sound effects are a bit painful
Everyone brings the crap weapon choices and then there's Chef bringing TWO C'Tan... wonder who's going to win this league, lol.
Well the remit was factions we like to use 😅 The alternative was Harlequins, but the crew thought Necrons would be better, so blame them 😅 -Chef
That’s fair and it’s your channel - you do you.
I just find it a little funny calling out Tau Crisis Suits with triple Cyclic Ion Blasters and then bringing two C’Tan, when unoptimized lists can’t even handle ONE C’Tan.
Not sure when CIBs were mentioned here 😅 But I quite rightly say I'm a terrible human being as I use said C’tan, as well as saying they either didn't need the FnP in the first place, or need a points bump, which I've also mentioned elsewhere. So its not like I'm being blind to their issues, but at the same time, multiple enslaved star gods is fun, and the League is precisely the time for people to bring those optimised lists 🙂 -Chef
@@tabletoptactics CIBs have been mentioned in other videos.
I get it. League is where it gets more competitive. 👍
Love the content by the way! Easily the best WH40k channel on YT. 😊
@@tabletoptactics I feel that.
In joining my gaming friends playing 40k 10th edition (I haven't played 40k since 7th and had sold everything), I was going to pick up Votann or Chaos Knights as they seemed fun for casual play.
One of my friends insisted I play my favourite army Necrons (to the point of buying me the combat patrol for Xmas last year..), I wasn't going to as while they are my favourite fluff and models. Playing them in the past wasn't the most enjoyable for opponents..
I am now playing Necrons, which funnily enough currently proclaimed "the most OP army" by the loud internet people.
So when one of the group brings it up I can just point at my friend mentioned above and say "blame him, I was going to play something else".
Thankfully the only models I currently own from "the OP lists" is a Technomancer, Szeras & Plasmancer.
And my preferred play style is Awakened Dynasty detachment.
Hopefully they will fix the Void Dragon's points by the time I get around to buying one, such a sexy model!
So many guys getting finished off...