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Atlanta | Season 2 Ep. 4: Lottie's Mom Scene | FX
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This scene is real and raw and so relevant. Black self-hate is real still.
Kristy Defreitas Straight up, this is our reality bcuz we have to deal more than a few of our people who act just like that bs.
I hated being black when I was younger and it took so much for me to finally love my skin and my community. This is such a huge issue that is not fully addressed because black is beautiful and so many of our youth don't feel that way. Black love, black power, and black lives matter 🖤
Right
8/23/2020
@Clueless Boxing uhhhhh.... yeah. Aight lmao
Everything isnt about self hate! In this show they are bi-racial and Van is bi-racial in real life which is why they are at an Oktoberfest
By the end of the scene homegirl still didn't understand why what she said to Van was so offensive lmao. This is exactly what these convos feel like.
She knew it was offensive
This scene really makes her Paris arc make a lot more sense
Was just thinking this
This scene is so deep....its going to go over a lof of heads.
HAZZARD yea i met quite a few like that as well....but i never understood their thought process....i guess it made them feel better about themselves
No Name Just Game probably not going to go over that many heads
Hopefully fewer after this post
No Name Just Game That's how bed wenches are brother. There mentality is seriously distorted.
oh god, another one of THESE comments. Stop acting like Atlanta is hard to get! It's not!
Black self hate is real and so sad.
Najee Films LLC Damn right, shit make me sad
Stay woke, fight the power,
BE THE POWER!
(Word)
Theyre half white in the show and Beats is bi-racial in real life. Its not about self hate, its a deeper question than that and one that Van was already struggling with before her sister said anything. She said "you chose black" but what she was really saying is, "you chose to be a baby mama" its not the fact that Ern is black, but that Ern didnt ask her to marry him and it hurts her because does want to be married, she actually is uncomfortable being a baby mama.
@@maniac50ae14 she was definitely not saying that. She said what she said. Saying things like "I wish I had kinky hair" has nothing to do with being a baby momma.
Similar stuff happening in India too. Sad
What really got me about this scene when I first saw it wasn't the self hate, though it was very apparent, but that because Van fell in love with Earn, had a baby, and chose her lifestyle (aka "chose black") that she set herself up for failure AND THAT WAS OKAY BECAUSE SHE "chose black". That's just fucked up! Just because YOU'RE BLACK or choose to live your life a certain way does not mean you're a failure, and her implying that really pissed me off.
Great episode!
J Par shut up.....
@@brucepatrick9442 I forgot that I commented on this. Definitely didn't explain my point very well at the time, if I even had one
J Par what did you say? Don’t be a coward now.
@@imuncomfbecuzihavsubsandno4371 if you must know, it was vaguely something about it crossing over through other races, and sometimes being a class thing too. It didn't really have much to do with the scene here, thus, not having a point
Plus obv. the whole "choosing white/choosing black" thing is idiotic to begin with lol
She wanted to start with "YOU and Melanie were never nice to me" but still just wanted to get her point across without lighting her up, but there's really no way to tell someone so self hating in a calm way that they have a delusional personality
Yo ...van has terrible friends 😂😂
That's actually her Sister
"you choose white or you choose black"
I've heard that so many times it makes my head hurt.
I just love the Kendrick and zacari voice in the background ….. made this scene lovely
Atlanta where is at💯
And if Earn had stayed at Princeton, she definitely wouldn’t have referred to Van as “Lottie’s mom” sad.
If Earn had stayed at Princeton, Lottie might not have been born
@@yesimemoin0935 Good point
Don’t really like Van episodes, but I like her as a person. “ Your hair is kinky, you just straighten it”
Nyesha Thompson every characters episode revolves around the general arcing theme of this season
She's the perfect foil to Earn. Both "smart kids" who are aware of what's happening around them, both pragmatists, both proud and willing to call out bullshit, but then placed into seemingly different lives because of the roles they're expected to play. Love the character.
That line was sooo fuckin funny
I love her episodes.
Her episodes are good.. it’s shows the female perspective..🙌🏽
As a fellow Blerman I've been in Van's shoes many times. Sometimes they forget what the other half of them is. Any attempt to try to remind them falls on deaf ears.
I prefer Nike shoes
One of my favorite episodes from S2
This clip is Candace Owens hair
FACTS hahaha
Definitely
but candace owens shows her own natural black hair. She doesnt cover it with straight hair that black people will never be born with
@@itypethetruthnobshere8975 wtf are you talking about? Don’t speak on black hair if you ain’t black...and if you are. You sound dumber! Wtf
Are you talking about!? Stfu! Delete this, you know better.
@Caratacus What do Koreans have to do with anything? This is not about Koreans and this is so random. Please re read what I wrote originally and let it be.
This is the best show out there
Intentional self displacement (ISD)
I can’t wait for the conversations that come up with Season 3
I like this scene it feels so real
Hated this episode but it was necessary
Loved this episode for how real the conversations were
Zazie is so pretty
She hella pretty 😭
Im in love, she speaks germans too, aww man
This hits home so much ...not my home it's all black love over here. But as I've noticed in the media and outside of media as of late there is this rapid increase in black women and white dudes like black love is barely non existent on tv or movies . It feels like it's a trend
Alex Woodard i know what you mean bro. That shit is annoying they what you to be in interracial relationship... Some of us been psychologically damage specially being in this western society..stay black,love you're self and black women, because everybody on this i hate black women campaign crap.
Alex Woodard Aight Brother!
Alex Woodard I agree with you 100% It's definitely an increase! And you have to be very careful with black women, more then ever nowadays! Because our sisters seperating themselves from the black man daily. This was the 1st episode I ever watched of Atlanta but I thought it was very heavy! Earn is the typical struggling black boyfriend that comes from the hood trying to hold on to whatever he can because he has nothing. Van is becoming the new modern day black woman who is "exploring self" and looking pass the black man to a white guy. And the white guy of course has ALL the answers and knows "what love is" while Earn struggles. I just think this is showing black men in a bad light in front of black women as they usually do. And to run to white men.
Grind Hard yeah u right. I always seemed to run into the, if you don't have a car, I'm not interested kinda girls! And that's not what life's about. Life's about building relationships (TOGETHER IF POSSIBLE) but all -->MOST BLACK WOMEN
pagan13578 It definitely does
Doja cat needs to watch this tbh.
Elaborate, I don't follow...
@@zaymilo1826 there was a rumor that went out that Doja was in chat rooms with white supremacists. it was later debunked that the people in the chat rooms were just normal people. just wierd nerds. there was even some videos of her chilling in chat rooms with other black people.
it was a big thing during summer of 2020 but as more people started finding out it wasn't true, it kinda just died out. still a meme for some people tho.
omg
Doja is biracial, so there are other factors to consider...
No she doesn’t
S4E7 ties this up real nice!
I can here the kendrick lamar love song in the background.
love that kendrick's playin in the background
Deep scene
is she referring to lil dicky dave? the layers are realll
Okay, I need to start telling people to watch this show
not only did she not choose black, she chose white girl slang too
Is this the start when van starts disociate?
Being black seems really difficult.
its very confusing. You're perceived a certain way because of your skin by both your race and other races, and you constantly have to make choices to either meet or disprove their perceptions. Being yourself, is never enough.
@@BenjerminGaye The worst was the episode where the white guy is trying to school him on his own black culture. I have no idea what that would feel like. Not good. My first roomate was black and it really opened my eyes to things that I never even had thought about. Difficulties I mean. There is truth to blacks having a way harder time and that's all there is to it.
@@ChairmanMeow1 it's sucks when you are black but white passing happens to me all the time
Being human in general is really difficult, certain things are amplified when you’re black
@@ChairmanMeow1 which episode is that?
She seems so fun and easy going, I wonder why that other girl wasnt nice to her when they were younger.
Show so subbliminal
I WANNA BE WITH YOUU AYE!
This show looks good, is it available on HBO Max?
It’s on Hulu
@@Moondustsmellsfunny Oh, ok nice. Thanks.
Sadly, ignorant ppl do exist in the world. 🤦🏻♂️
Her homegirl may be wrong about introducing her as Lottie's mom but Van is a baby mama after dealing with Earn.
Robb Dark but what else has she done with her life that she is know for? Nothing worth mentioning
@@slidejones6033 She's a teacher.
@@humboldt2087 True but she lost her job for admitting to the Principal she smoked weed.
@@humboldt2087 exactly
@@slidejones6033 It still means she has the credentials.
Interesting... In Korean culture, it's a term of endearment in a sense. Only closest family and some friends will identify someone through their oldest child's parentage. Typically when children are around as to not gain a behavior where they start calling elders by their first names. But the children don't use this same style if they're family. It sounds complicated but makes sense to those who grew up in or studied it.
It’s not like that with black Americans though. Or any Americans lol
you're kinda right, it is about labels. Except instead of demonstrating a closeness of family and community similar to Korean culture,
By labeling Van, Christina was trying to create distance between who she wants to appear to be and what she wanted other people to see Van as. Christina was showing Van, her place. It just wasn't an endearment.
I understand that, but this is an American show in America. So that doesn’t apply here.
LOVEE
can someone elaborate this scene for me? I see people talking about self hate and whatnot but i don’t seem to understand still
Van's friend doesn't seem to like her identity as a black woman. She said that Val "chose black", which pretty much means she thinks Van chose wrong. For her, it's a surface-level comparison, since Van chose not to hang out with her as much, but, that was because the girl's friend, Melanie, was judgemental and rude to Van.
The biggest tell is Van's recall of her friend saying that she wished she had kinky hair, though she grows naturally kinky hair Van's friend just straightens it, while pretending that it's not to have the same hair texture as a heavy majority of black women. It's a way to distance herself, not that black women can't/don't straighten their hair. I doubt many claim that it's natural though
I never met anyone like that. . So live my predominantly black city, we didn't have options lmfao black everywhere. So I'm sure there were girls like that I just fortunately didn't meet any
I hate these types of broads who hate themselves.. smh.
I met girls like that, they chase white dudes, their self hate is weird
shawty u darker than her
I'm sayinggg
Like?!?! tf
This doja cat
Hi doja cat. I'm dad.
lmao!
Wow
.....
WTF
and that was supposed to be her real sister...
irl Zazie Beetz choose white
And Jewish.
Life imitates art sometimes.
😂😂🤣🤣
Yea and Van is still a baby momma with no ring
Exactly 💯
Van's friend was trying to tell her. Van chose an unemployed ninja and became a statistic.
Her friend chose an accomplished white man and that white man made her his WIFE.
Black women are race loyal to THEIR detriment.
Does anyone actually think/act like this?
Donald never writes a scenario about black men and self hate. This is the third scene about self hating women.
@Ryan Akwar Fr he just dumb
Lol it’s all over the show
Thank you.
Might hit too close to home..lol
Ukr especially given the fact that he himself is married to a white woman but noooo this is the 3rd scene he has of a 'self-hating' black woman that chooses white and no scene with not even 1 'self-hating' black guy...despite the fact that it is statistically proven that black guys marry outside their race twice as much as black women...oh we dont want to talk about that 🤣
I've met plenty of people with this mentality I know black couples that make a lot of money together interracial couples white couples you name and I seen it success or unsuccessful
The data and stats outweigh the few "successful " Black couples you know, unfortunately
A lot of black and interracial couples have flown under that
This is sad. Self hate is real. But also Baby Mama Culture is kinda black culture. Not Asian or Mexican culture.
I know I’m probably the least qualified person to say this but…I do get why a black person would think this way. It’s sad, but I do get it. America’s not kind to anyone who doesn’t fit the designated bill.
The fact that you get it makes you way more intellectual than the average American who refuses to acknowledge it.
This was the worst episode of season 2. Soooooo boring!
It was still pretty good
It was the best. My favorite bc it was so well written and real. I think women like this one. Just a guess.
All the van episodes are kinda boring
I like them. People trying to be People and getting by. I definetly couldn't take every episode being a Teddy Perkins episode.
Oh the hypocrisy in these comments. I just can’t. I really like Donald Glover but his perception is so skewed.
How so?
his brother who co-writes says they don't really write with an agenda or message, they just put out what happens and the experiences of people. they're not trying to make you think anything, but since it's presented through media it forces us to take a different perspective.
@@prenuptials5925 I actually think it's the opposite. Donald Glover understands both sides of the black experience without preaching about it. Also I like how they tackled how black people come from different cultures and are not mixed with black and white. It was also nice seeing Van speak German
@@prenuptials5925 every writer has an agenda or message whether it’s intentional or not.
Wtf are you talking about bro
Choose right... choose white.
Your self HATRED is repulsive. Choosing Wt is choosing team wt supemacy which is a demonic ideology,🤮
@@lf1496 Self hatred? How? My father is a white man.
@@KaylaJones2000 you are saying choosing "white" is the right choice to make which implies choosing "black" is the wrong choice. Are you black or mixed?
@@KaylaJones2000 wrong place to troll lmao
BUT DID SHE LIE THOUGH? You chose Black, these men don't marry. Deal with it.
LikeClockwork That's the most BULLSHIT thing I heard
Found the self hater.
It's not self hate but facts. 70 percent of kids out of wedlock
@@lanjicucksmoke3034 oh look someone can make up statistics
@@willrandolphv1588
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/29/don-lemon/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/
www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/understanding-out-of-wedlock-births-in-black-america/277084/
www.washingtonexaminer.com/77-black-births-to-single-moms-49-for-hispanic-immigrants
Its not wrong to acknowledge facts but its healthy to know when to make active efforts to make good changes. The "black single mom" trope is pretty popular.
this episode was kinda racist aswell germany isnt bavarya only