Great podcast and good information as always. I am an old guy and wore the Excalibur GT back in the early 1980s, so the GT has been around for awhile. That shoe had a plastic heel pillar and an orthotic-style insole and a full board last. I loved that shoe. Today, I don't think I could wear it.
To the wide toebox question: the TYR Valkyrie Speedworks and Elite Carbon have generous toeboxes, 6mm drop, and high volume uppers. Often on sale, too!
I built a rotation the last 2 months, I have zero drops, 4mm drops, 6mm drop, and 8mm drop shoes, from various brands. The only commonality is they're either wide fit, or "anatomical" fit. I have 3 altras (one is 4mm), saucony 4mm, 2 new balances (and 4mm and 6mm), and 8mm asiscs. Definitely smart to get not just a variety of drops, but even brands. I have been wearing barefoot shoes when not running for more than a year, so low drop/no drop feels super great to me for most runs (the 8mm novablasts feel super great when my lower legs are feeling sore though)
For stable yet fun, I agree with Matt on the Tempus or Hyperion 2 GTS. I have flat feet and pronate a ton. I use Glycerin GTS 21/Kayano 31/GT-2000 13 for my daily runs (7:45-8:30mi), and I use the Tempus and Hyperion 2GTS for my road intervals or even fartlek workouts. Tempus has the better foam but for me the weight of the Hyperion 2 GTS and the comfortable fit win out. For shorter intervals, the Hyperion 2 GTS is absolutely the winner. Stable, snappy, and for an old guy like me, the grounded feel is perfect. Just my take!
I have had issues with Shin splints and a few things that worked for me are.. 1. Run slower and less, but dont stop running! And, do your workouts and stay fit overall, until your legs recover. 2. Be sure of your running gait... At one point my left leg would come down from way outside rather than the typical back and forth. 3. Dont run in minimalist shoes or shoes with bad stability; a good rolling rocker like one in Saucony endorphin Speed helps-- I love low stack shoes... I got Asics Tarther RP3 which I use for short fast runs (love them the most) but I think if I overdo my runs in them, my shin pain may return! However, the Saucony endorphin Speed 3 that I have got has been my safest bet for a long time to stay away from shin injuries.
The endorphin speed 3 single handedly brings back shin splints for me, I avoid it. For me, calf overload has been the main trigger for shin splints, and the endospeed3 seems to be really hard on those muscles
@@klipk7296 Speed 4s have done that for me, but not the 2s or any other shoe. Haven't been able to run in since May. See physio every 4 weeks since. Hoping to start running start of new year.
Very interesting talk. So the Nitro Elite 3 is more stable than the Adios pro4… I am 5’7” and 120lbs and it’s hard to find foam with the right amount of compliance I can activate that is also balanced and not too squirrelly.
For that first question about finding a stable super shoe that’s not too aggressive, what do you think about the NB SC Elite V4? I feel like it’s a great option
Hello! I'm doing well with Saucony tempus, already with my second pair. I suffer from my ankle falling inside. What will be the best super trainer/shoe for me? Speed 4, mach x2, nitro3??
Hi! Just want to ask some advice. I have a wide and flat foot with zero arches but i tend to underpronate most especially when i run. What shoes would you recommend for daily running and race day? I have been using kayanos and I don't have any issues but just want to expand my options as I get more into running. Thanks!
The Pro 4 is terrible, at least for me. Just try anything else and it may help your hip pain. Even though it is supposed to be less aggressive and a “beginner’s super shoe” it beats my legs up and gives me slow times. The Edge Paris and Sky Paris are much more aggressive but give me no problems.
No idea about GT, but GTS obviously stands for Grand Theft Shoe. It's a video game where you run around hitting ne'er-do-wells with foam rollers and stability shoes.
Wonder why you get leg pain when you run 180 cadence doing 10min mile?? That is a ridiculous cadence for slow run. The 180 forcing for all comes from elite athletes doing that on a 10km race. There are also incompetent people doing the pronation analysis. If you have issues, see a physiatrist aka a doctor, not a shoe salesman.
This is so backward. 180 for a 10min mile would be ridiculous for those same elite athletes you cite, but not for your average hobby jogger. You think the natural stride length of a hobby jogger is comparable to an elite ? No? Then of course their cadence will be higher. Come on.
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Great podcast and good information as always. I am an old guy and wore the Excalibur GT back in the early 1980s, so the GT has been around for awhile. That shoe had a plastic heel pillar and an orthotic-style insole and a full board last. I loved that shoe. Today, I don't think I could wear it.
To the wide toebox question: the TYR Valkyrie Speedworks and Elite Carbon have generous toeboxes, 6mm drop, and high volume uppers. Often on sale, too!
I built a rotation the last 2 months, I have zero drops, 4mm drops, 6mm drop, and 8mm drop shoes, from various brands. The only commonality is they're either wide fit, or "anatomical" fit.
I have 3 altras (one is 4mm), saucony 4mm, 2 new balances (and 4mm and 6mm), and 8mm asiscs. Definitely smart to get not just a variety of drops, but even brands.
I have been wearing barefoot shoes when not running for more than a year, so low drop/no drop feels super great to me for most runs (the 8mm novablasts feel super great when my lower legs are feeling sore though)
For stable yet fun, I agree with Matt on the Tempus or Hyperion 2 GTS. I have flat feet and pronate a ton. I use Glycerin GTS 21/Kayano 31/GT-2000 13 for my daily runs (7:45-8:30mi), and I use the Tempus and Hyperion 2GTS for my road intervals or even fartlek workouts. Tempus has the better foam but for me the weight of the Hyperion 2 GTS and the comfortable fit win out. For shorter intervals, the Hyperion 2 GTS is absolutely the winner. Stable, snappy, and for an old guy like me, the grounded feel is perfect. Just my take!
A stable supershoe I run in is the Diadora gara. I like the endorphin speed. very stable but its not a real supershoe.
I have had issues with Shin splints and a few things that worked for me are..
1. Run slower and less, but dont stop running! And, do your workouts and stay fit overall, until your legs recover.
2. Be sure of your running gait... At one point my left leg would come down from way outside rather than the typical back and forth.
3. Dont run in minimalist shoes or shoes with bad stability; a good rolling rocker like one in Saucony endorphin Speed helps-- I love low stack shoes... I got Asics Tarther RP3 which I use for short fast runs (love them the most) but I think if I overdo my runs in them, my shin pain may return! However, the Saucony endorphin Speed 3 that I have got has been my safest bet for a long time to stay away from shin injuries.
The endorphin speed 3 single handedly brings back shin splints for me, I avoid it. For me, calf overload has been the main trigger for shin splints, and the endospeed3 seems to be really hard on those muscles
Do tibialis raises. Itll bulletproof your shins.
@@klipk7296 which shoes work the best for you?
@@klipk7296 Speed 4s have done that for me, but not the 2s or any other shoe. Haven't been able to run in since May. See physio every 4 weeks since. Hoping to start running start of new year.
Very interesting talk. So the Nitro Elite 3 is more stable than the Adios pro4… I am 5’7” and 120lbs and it’s hard to find foam with the right amount of compliance I can activate that is also balanced and not too squirrelly.
The OG Tempus can still be found for a good price if that’s an issue for the pronator looking to try a lighter / faster stability shoe
Not a top supershoe but the ASICS S4 is pretty stable for me.
ASICS needs to send that worldwide
For that first question about finding a stable super shoe that’s not too aggressive, what do you think about the NB SC Elite V4? I feel like it’s a great option
What about the New Balance SC Elite 4 for a stable supershoe? (Not tried it - curious to see if you agree with that statement)
Hello! I'm doing well with Saucony tempus, already with my second pair. I suffer from my ankle falling inside. What will be the best super trainer/shoe for me? Speed 4, mach x2, nitro3??
Hi!
Just want to ask some advice.
I have a wide and flat foot with zero arches but i tend to underpronate most especially when i run.
What shoes would you recommend for daily running and race day?
I have been using kayanos and I don't have any issues but just want to expand my options as I get more into running.
Thanks!
Need that heel bevel shirt lol.
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The Pro 4 is terrible, at least for me. Just try anything else and it may help your hip pain. Even though it is supposed to be less aggressive and a “beginner’s super shoe” it beats my legs up and gives me slow times. The Edge Paris and Sky Paris are much more aggressive but give me no problems.
Salomon S/Lab Spectre can be considered a stable marathon shoe.
What do you ASICS GT stands for? (Only wrong answers)
No idea about GT, but GTS obviously stands for Grand Theft Shoe. It's a video game where you run around hitting ne'er-do-wells with foam rollers and stability shoes.
Good Times, obviously
Good toes
@@Navi-em4zf Yes!
@@burntorangehorn Too real
Wonder why you get leg pain when you run 180 cadence doing 10min mile?? That is a ridiculous cadence for slow run. The 180 forcing for all comes from elite athletes doing that on a 10km race.
There are also incompetent people doing the pronation analysis. If you have issues, see a physiatrist aka a doctor, not a shoe salesman.
This is so backward. 180 for a 10min mile would be ridiculous for those same elite athletes you cite, but not for your average hobby jogger. You think the natural stride length of a hobby jogger is comparable to an elite ? No? Then of course their cadence will be higher. Come on.
Does really the drop matter?