Intel predicted the future - Journey Inside: The Computer
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Schools have changed a lot since 1996. But Intel has stayed inside the curriculum. Can they be trusted to teach kids about electronics engineering and computers, or are they feeding them product placement?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:01 What's in the box???
2:34 Teacher's guide
4:19 Chip Kit - The CPU
6:02 Chip Kit - The rest of it
7:09 A Wild Linus Appears!
9:51 Future Middle School blows Linus' mind
12:19 The world was different then
13:51 It's movie day!
16:11 Third edition was better
16:35 Conclusion 
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21 year old here, we had overheads well into high school for me. If you guys haven’t already, *please* put this on the internet archive. This kit in this good a condition is likely a rarity, and it would be a shame not to preserve it.
I'm 24 and I've seen them used during my school years up until early middle school I think, but it's probably mainly because the school I went to for middle school and high school had a very good budget and bought projectors or smart boards for all the classes quite early on, so we didn't have to use overhead projectors much anymore (though a couple teachers preferred them at the beginning as they weren't very comfortable with the smart boards software yet).
just a few years ago I had this old professor who would still use them in university
It's been 4 years since I graduated high school, but some of my teachers used them.
20 here, did graduate vom German Highschool about 2 Years ago. We had one class (advanced Math) where we had a digital Blackboard but like in German and nearly every other subject Overheads are still a thing 😂
18 here, they had extensive use in my primary school before projectors became commonplace
No worries: in Germany we are still using overhead projectors in schools and universities (though they are finally are used less)
That one teacher whose whole class was copying text from the overhead (I'm from Austria, and we also had them still) and they're probably still using them.
What do you mean "still"?
I always thought it was a norm...
...and something new two years ago
The UK is the same.
We have overhead projectors in every class in my university just collecting dust on the corner of the room, staring us menacingly
We had a Smartboards in every Room in grades 5-10 and some Teachers still wanted to use overhead projectors
as a tech director in a k-12 school. I still dream of the day all teachers know how to use a computer.
This is an amazing kit, Thanks for the show and tell.
Probably in 20 years in at least first world countries...even the 60 year old teachers at that point would have been 80's babies and grew up with windows 95, 98 and XP.
The teachers now know more about “gender” and “inequality” and “race” “feelings” and other trivial things than real usefull information for the youth. And is sad
@@QeZobaBazZz I think its deliberate, too. The Teachers "colleges" have long been focused on anything BUT academic rigor. For decades now at this point. "Woke" is just the final evolution.
Don't worry, Zoomers are already teaching, so it'll just be a matter of time and retirement.
Ah y think g it is depends on how you brains asimilate and how fast you can make a big piece from all the skatered information, yet even today that people using the technology blindly without even knowing or want to know what and how the world around us is build 🤔
I love how gleeful Anthony and Linus are over this kit. They reminded me of two kids at lunch showing each other their latest Magic booster packs. (As an aside, I think in middle school Anthony would have had a plain, solid colored lunch box, Linus would have had a Star Wars one and Jake was a nerdy kid pretending he wasn't a nerd so he could hang out with the "popular kids".)
Yes to the MS DOS build. (Maybe collab with LGR?)
The only incorrect statement about future schools is "Teachers will know how to use computers". As K-12 IT I can tell you this is false in most cases.
100%
can confirm, in school i "hacked" my teachers computer I mean all I did was redirect any google search to a adult site, she asumed I was apart of some cult.
i knew more than even the computer lab teachers by the time i was 5 lmao
In your average public school, everything is “somebody else's job”.
😂
Anthony needs to teach the entire course from beginning to end, as it would have been presented in the day. I'd watch all off it.
Please. I'd buy floatplane for that.
Man i just wanna finish the vhs 😔
PLS do 🙏
pleaaaaaaaaaaase!
I was thinking the same thing!
man that took me back to early 2002-04 where I was basically hired by the school at 9/10 years old to run around and show teachers how to add sites to IE's Favorites/bookmarks manager. such a nostalgia trip with this one
Even a basic knowledge of how to use a pC made you a wizz kid wonderkind.
At 9/10 years old I got time away from the rest of the class to help the IT guy run Windows Update on all the computers in the computer lab lol. My mom and my brother taught me young (Mom had the "DOS for Dummies" handbook!) and it's stuck with me all these years, now I'm working in IT today.
This was actually one of my favorite videos from y’all. I think there should be a “Relics From the Past” series on old tech and learning material like this. I had so many flashbacks to learning computers from my dad pretty much from the time I could click a mouse.
Pleeeease upload this on the Internet Archive. Would be a shame to not see this preserved, as niche as it is.
Also, that little silicon piece is beautiful, all the colors and structures, ooooh I love that.
Seconded this please upload.
came here to say this
Yes please.
was about to comment on where we can get the full VHS
I have an intel key chain that has a die encased in an acrylic cube. I think it's a 386!
In Germany those so called "overhead projectors" or "Polylux" (name of the company that made these in the GDR) are still in uncomfortably frequent use in schools. Anything concerning computer science, IT or even media literacy is few and far between, unfortunately...
We always said just Overhead I never heard Polylux, maybe it is different throughout Germany
Das internet ist für uns alle neuland wie merkel so gut meinte
Manche Lehrer benutzen die halt wirklich regelmäßig. Deutsche Schulen halt.
yes for me was ist overhead and polylux ^^ our info teacher says always polylux aber war schon ne krasse zeit xD
True
I remember this! We actually had Intel employees come into a classroom and teach this to us (there’s a manufacturing plant in our state).
Cool! That makes more sense, since the regular teachers wouldn't know anything about computers.
Chandler, Arizona?
@@JBrown-go8ru In Rio Rancho, NM. It’s about 10 minutes outside Albuquerque city limits.
What's sad is that we get these kinds of kits all the time, I've been teaching 10 years now at the high school level and help with curriculum development. We get sample kits and test kits from organizations all the time trying to get us to buy a full course. The difficult part is always finding someone to try out the kit and having support to swap out a course for a tester. Schools and districts have to be more willing to try things like this out, there are some really amazing courses out there. So let me know when we want to create some Linus Tech Tips Curriculum 😉
LTT should make a series going through the basics of computers, to the degree laid out in this Intel classroom kit. That would be AMAZING!
I agree! This should be a thing. Maybe they could even partner with Intel to make a new kit. That would be neat.
I'd watch that.
I love the idea
"Crash Course: Computer Science" actually does a fantastic job of this, I've used/referenced it in a classroom setting
and if they give it to schools free its not bad marketing at all!.....arr but then is that marketing to kids? or is it brand recognition? (in my eye the latter is much more acceptable) Intel was doing the same thing so... Anyone got any thoughts on that side of it?
The amazingness of saying "Students are expected to carry their computers with them -- they can communicate with other students around the world" would be like today saying "Students are expected to carry 3D printers with them -- they can create any object in minutes, including their afternoon lunch".
Wait until this guy predicts the future too.
When Canon and EPSON releases their 3D printers line, that's when I will know that 3D printer is hitting mainstream. We're reaching a point where Printer and Scanner are no longer necessary since we signed things digitally, and we scan documents by using phone's camera and AI cropping. Those older companies is definitely looking for new products to jump ship. I can already imagine plastic model companies starting to sell 3D printer and the filament materials that people can use to print their own Gunpla etc, and they switched from selling finished products to selling designs.
Hmmm 3D ham salad sandwich, made using Windows 25. Bit slow cause I only have a 128 core CPU.
@Jao Bai Dun well, its slowly getting disposed anyway. Some fields are just mollasses like Courts but even they slowly reducing printer usage.
considering 2D printers haven't gone beyond the whole sitting on a desk thing for several decades at this point, 3D printers will never become portable, you just can't create plastic or whatever out of air to print stuff you see, nor can you shrink all the stuff that tiny. Probably something like Holographic displays or all in one PCs, the size of a phone are the future perhaps
As a german this video almost made me cry. I graduated the german equivalent of high school in 2012 and back then the overhead projector was still the absolute pinnacle of technology.
There were no computers in the classroom, however, there was one room with computers from the early 2000s. The only way to use them was to take IT class which was only available in the last two years and only covered two hours per week. In this class the math teacher tried to teach you the basics of programming and how a computer works. However, this guy was struggling with the task of even turning a PC on.
WiFi in school was completly unthinkable, only the principal and his assistent had access to the internet.
When we watched a movie, the screen was a 30 year old tube television with a VHS player. If you wanted to play a DVD, you had to get the only DVD player in the whole school from the principals office.
Attendance was recorded in a book which had to be carried to each class. Needless to say that this book disappeared every year so noone had any missed day on their report card.
I had heard of Smartboard technology, but I did not see one in person until I joined university.
We still had slide projectors for presensations and stuff. No, not the ones you fit to a PC. The ones which shine light through physical pictures.
And you guys had this stuff in the 90s... Germany is completly and utterly lost.
students helping students huh? funny enough in my school even in the 2010s they were still using book based attendance marking (that and having to get to parade square and get bored in line, provided it ain't raining and is dry. )
Graduated with my ABI in 2020. To this day the overhead projector is the pinnacle of presentation technology in NRW.
My IT teacher once scolded me because I prepared a PowerPoint presentation for IT CLASS.
I actually have one of these kits! I got it from my grandma a few years back. From what I understand, the CPU is an engineering sample, and none of them were intended to work.
Mine also came with a full round silicon wafer (5 inch diameter-ish)- coolest thing I’ve ever held.
I’d be interested in seeing a follow up interview with Barbara Carmen re reception at the time, how they were so spot on with predictions, and current outreach projects
aw that would be AMAZING
Exactly my thoughts! I'd love to have Anthony and Linus on to talk about all things education back then and maybe how it's changed over the years
If Wifi was released in 1997, and this in 1996, the tech was definitely being worked on while this was being made and Intel would definitely have been in the loop.
Linus. Make this happen!
Yes like our school onlye ended using them like two years ago and I don't live in some small village
10:48 "All the teachers know how to use computers." having worked as a Systems Administrator in Higher Ed. for the last six years, I know that Intel fell a little bit short on that hypothesis.
It doesn't say that they know how to use computers *WELL*, just that they know how to use them.
Similarly, I know how to play chess. I can't play well, but I know how to play.
@@tiladx Your optimism is a breath of fresh air
onl;y because there all 70+ years old now lol
@@xsvrrx fr and they need to check like hundreds of papers per homework they give to the different classes like how do you even find time for other things
I love how Linus instantly jumps into "wow you can see the structure on the DYI"
Can we get the whole 1996 video posted on one of the channels?
I feel a bit like an anomaly. I'd been using computers since the 70s, so I've seen all this develop in real time.
Of all the predictions, one of the things that's still lagging in education is taking the time and doing the training so that the teachers know how to use their computing resources. It's not necessary for them to know all the intricacies, but teachers do need to know enough to use those resources effectively.
I had a chance to buy a Kim-1 sol-20, northstar, and a polywell 88 back in the mid 70'd! I didn't and bought an Apple II+!
This is true. Too many teachers (and let's face it, parents) who seem to take an almost gleeful delight in their ignorance of how to use what is now a fundamental tool throughout society
Me too. I played my first computer game on a mainframe in Aug '71, which changed my life.
Trouble with many teachers, though, is that many of them are ignorant as hell, and often not terribly bright, either. How they got through college, I'll never understand.
I actually have a lot of sympathy for teachers. First, teaching is an inexact science. Where the goal in mechanics (for instance) is to make things work reliably and a part of that is that the same part should work the same for all instances, people (students) don't work that way. Each individual functions differently and teachers have to learn how to respond to each one in the way that works best for each one. It's a tough job.
It's not helped by trying to tell the difference between those parents who really do understand their kids and those who are merely projecting themselves upon them.
It's not helped by politicians who don't realize that the ROI on investment in education is people who can think well. (Some politicians are understandable opposed to that :) ).
It's not helped by the teachers among them who have countless other reasons for teaching other than a deep, abiding concern that students learn well.
So, it's a tough job and I don't envy them having to learn new things just to keep doing it. What I was getting at is that the training on using tech is woefully inadequate in many cases and it's no wonder that some tech just sits there or is used in such a minimal fashion that it's not really worth the investment.
I would 100% watch a series of someone at LTT actually teaching this entire course to a few of the youngest LTT crew members.
That would be amazing! Its obvious how important this sort of curriculum is nowadays. I hope some cs teachers start teaching this stuff!
Agree!
have the kids of LTT staff watch this, I think it is summer holiday now so the kids should have time for this. I would prefer Anthony as the teacher
Or to staff members kids.
deffo would watch the staff use this to teach their kids
I'm 22 years old, overhead projectors definitely was a thing in elementary and early middle school for me.
Same here, but also my math lecturer in my first year of uni (in 2019) also used an overheard projector
Hell we had them in highschool (I’m 23)
Same in both middle and high school. Was used for algebra and calculus at times, also for random cases in other classes like macroeconomics. College on the other hand was all powerpoints or chalkboards.
Yea 24 and stopped seeing them around middle school, besides the random teacher or 2 that still used one in high school
I just finishen my final year at an IT school we still have overhead projectors.
In my elementry school, it was a mix of those "smart" projectors, where it was a smart screen that had a projector pointed at it and you tapped thee screen with a pen, and the overhead ones. I was born 03 si make of that what you will. In middle school, some classrooms had TVs on the wall, and others had that weird smart screen.
Damn, your school sounds baller. We didn’t get smart boards throughout the whole district until my middle school years or so.
Being mere minutes from Intel's Folsom facilities, I can say that they have always been extremely generous in donating equipment and instruction to all of the schools in the area at all grade levels.
That prediction about the "Future Middle School" is absolutely uncanny in how accurate it is now, wow
That whole thing still amazes me - when I was in middle school, some of the wealthier families had (very expensive) LED 4-function calculators... and you would be suspended for a week if you were caught with one on campus. They were considered "cheating tools". Giving individual kids access to a computer more powerful than most universities boasted, much less *requiring* them, would have sent my teachers into stroke territory...
I'm not actually all that surprised personally. The people who really understood where technology could go and what the internet could become had been talking about this kind of future for ages. If you really want something super uncanny, check out Douglas Engelbart's ACM presentation from 1968, which has retroactively been dubbed "The Mother of All Demos". He basically predicted, along with demonstrated somewhat functional mockups of the modern word processor, hyperlinks, video conferencing, collaborative document editing, etc. in 1968. The PC was still 15 years away. The "network" was a pair of microwave transmitter/receiver trucks directly connecting computers at two remote locations.
Uncanny, but at the time most of that technology was in its earliest iterations at the time. 1992 was the first IBM Thinkpad laptop.
Early 90s was when CSIRO was working on their WLAN project for multichannel signal processing and it included joint ventures with IBM and Sun at the time.
1990 - 92 was also First Digital Cameras, First Photoshop, Drafts for HTML and web browser design was also around that time. It was all kicking off around then.
At that time, if you were working in the industry, you would actually know where the technology was heading and what we were trying to accomplish with it. We even knew smartphones would become a thing, we just didn't really know what they would look like or how they would be controlled.
@@boxhead6177 Indeed they didn't really predict anything that didn't exist already (like smartphones), they say "textbook" especially referring to notebooks..
Obviously for the everyday guy of that time it wouldn't have made any sense to think that portable computers, that back then costed a fortune and were a commodity for the privileged, would've become something that everyone can afford...
But people in the business obviously knew how much technology had progressed in the last decades and how much it still had to progress by leaps and bounds in the upcoming years. After all it was a very educated guess that everyone in the next decade or two would have a notebook at school
I’d really be interested in an interview with Barbara Carman. The history of the kit and what Intel are doing now in schools.
I just wanna know what it's like to work for a tech giant for 40 years.
Do it !
Ditto. I’d love to see a follow up with Barbara.
@@thegreenxeno9430 honestly true tho
I asked both Intel and AMD if they could send me some fun stuff [like posters and what not] for a school I was working at. I received a few fun things such as posters and things to give away as like rewards for computer literacy and typing challenges from AMD and Intel didn't get back to me.
Hello, im 24 and the overhead projectors were still in use when I was in elementary and I think Middle school maybe, too.
9:14 … and there’s the catch: the cost to Intel to mass produce these educational materials and ship them to schools is cheap. The school would then have to find a teacher or parent to volunteer to actually learn the materials and then take the time to teach that knowledge to students.
There is a related issue affecting computer security in businesses: buying fancy rack mounted silver bullet boxes is cheap but staffing employees to actually look at the alerts and logs (and take action) is what companies will fail to implement.
Requisitioning stuff is cheap.
Requisitioning people is expensive.
Anthony: "You probably don't know what this old thing is."
US kids in shitty underfunded public schools: "I used that thing last week."
"Underfunded" US schools are still better than anything we have here in Russia.
20 year old German here, we still have daylight/overhead projectors in most of our schools. A lot of school materials here are still on laminates and we just now started switching to digital projectors and PC or Mac Based classrooms.
We had all teaching on digital projectors 14 years ago in Finland. Our main classroom had two projectors and screens.
its sad but true.
Interesting. Usually Germany is on top of the latest developments. Most surrounding countries are not even using a traditional blackboard any more but interactive projector screens/monitors that basically work as a giant tablet.
@@p_mouse8676 Well in the last 5-10 years it started to change somewhat and is being updated, the problem for most of the time was that it was underfunded, and another problem is that school is not managed centrally by the government, but every "state" has their own way of managing their school system which is why there is much deficit.
In Canada, we called them transparencies.
32yr old here. My whole entire education included overhead projectors. I remember they got fancy towards the end and was able to print the transparent pages themselves with special paper.
Oh, I remember seeing one of these about a decade ago. Our classroom had one of these, and teacher would use this to write something to that transparent thing and project it to the wall.
It was one of the coolest thing I saw back in the day.
I love Linus' passion. After everything he's built with LTT, he's still a giddy child on Christmas day when it comes to tech stuff he discovers. Awesome
Who is Linus? Is he like important or something?
@@shadyb i think he works there or at least is there sometimes
@@shadyb Linus is someone who's happy to be there...
is Linus the man talking about Screwdriver??
He does fake it a lot though. He's much more knowledgeable than he pretends to be. He often acts surprised and excited to find out things that he already knows, in order to entice the younger audience.
I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but although I do know about as much as Linus in regards to consumer hardware, when I watch videos on subjects I'm not well-versed in, I notice that I can't tell when he is faking it or not, and I find that a little awkward.
Intel literally predicted it, that future middle school section is genuinely too scary accurate but wildly impressive
@@HansPeter-ft9hx Predicting the future and then making it happen is unfathomably based
@@itchylol742 holy shit that's what intel did wow
I prefer to think that they just "envisioned the future" and then made a lot of steps to make those visions a reality. This is what separates a true visionaryes from a shmo who has a lucky guess.
To be fair, they had an inside track on what tech was coming down the pipe, and they literally were researching and making prototypes of said tech when they wrote it
@@guadalupe8589 That said they had no idea what would become the future and what wouldn't. Perhaps this is why Intel hedged/continues to hedge its bets on where they (and tech in general) will go, an example of this could be them choosing this moment to enter the discrete graphics card market.
When it comes to retro, love the content, this is where it all started for my generation, well country dependent, Pentium 3 and 4 where we learnt how to use PC's, brings back memories even for us 30+ year olds
My first PC when I was a kid was an Intel 486.
3:42 When I was a technician at a college, we had a couple of those, and still used some, admittedly on the rare occasion, as late as 2012. Honestly, most people phased them out by about 2006, when the computer projectors were becoming a standard in every classroom.
Basically, the lecturer had 2 options.
1. Put the image on screen using the PC Projector.
2. If there was no PC projector (or even no PC, Registers used to be a book, so there was no need for a PC even to take register), print it out on a transparency, and put it on the overhead projector.
Before 1 was an option, 2 was the default, but you used to have scroll-like rolls of transparent file, that could roll over the projector's surface, like a roll to roll system on the projector itself, and some lecturers would basically hand-write and draw pictures on a "scroll" for their entire year's lesson plan. They used special marker pens that would wet-wipe off cleanly in case they needed to change what had been written or drawn, but be durable enough to not dry-wipe off.
Would definitely want to see a DOS based PC build on this channel. I'd love to see how much detail they go into as someone who has built quite a few of them over the years personally. Really enjoyed this one, we didn't have anything like this back when I was at school in the 90s, this would've blown my mind to see back then.
I still remember making batch files, menus with command linked functions, for my 'non computer literate' friends.
LGR collab?
@@madmanmancuso4827 with Edlin?
No worries, we still use overhead projectors at school to this day...
really?!
True and the one shown here 3:42 even looks really modern.
@@Gravarty The old ones I saw growing up were huge steel monsters...
@@TheAcadianGuy yep I graduated in 2016 and the projector shown was the exact model we were using in my highschool alongside the college I work at now JUST got rid of them.
@@TheAcadianGuy Yeah there's actually a lot of teachers at our school who still actively use it in their classes.
this is our CEO BTW, was great! give this editor a raise!
Fantastic color grading on this one
Good choice to make this one HDR the shots of the silicon on Anthony's finger was stunning
3:32 "I don't think many people will have seen this in recent years"
Trust me, teachers STILL do use these all the time. Even when they have a big, giant touchscreen in front of them.
Our damn smart boards never worked or our teacher didn't want to learn how to use it. Back to the trusty ol' overhead projector 🤣
in germany we don't even always have smartboards or beamers in the classrooms so these overhead projektors (or how they're called in german: Tageslichtprojektor, which translates to day light projektor) are used almost in every class
@@eueStrive i feel you man, in our classes just very recently they started to make the move
We used to project to a smart board using one of these. They just work.
Anyone in their mid thirties can attest, anthony and linus’ reaction to this is legit. Seriously, why didn’t my school have one of these.
I'm 20 and I wish I had this as a kid. Almost everything in that book looks super interesting and fun compared to what we were taught in Computer class back in school
Me too
@@smsry Computer have hardly changed during the time you were in school.
@@engineeringvision9507 yeah but throughout school computer class basically was Microsoft Office class. The most interesting thing that I can remember was we had to learn Flash for a year which was cool, but other than that, it was very boring. Maybe because I'm much more interested in computer hardware, I find the stuff in this video much more useful than what I was taught in school...
@@smsry I failed my IT GCSE because it was all "Microsoft Office class", funny how I ended up being a software developer. Turns out making software was more interesting than using software.
wow.. I am 46 graduated in 94 and I remember overhead projectors. That kit in that good condition would be a good idea to preserve. Great video.
I've been out of high school for 10 years, and we still used overhead projectors occasionally, though by the time I had graduated, the high school had switched almost entirely to video projectors and drawing programs. The last time overheads were used widely in my school district was probably 9-10th grade, and that was mostly for math classes.
I really, REALLY wish this kind of educational material had become the standard back then, and carried through to today. I had very little interest in computers beyond their entertainment value until 2012. If we had had this kind of detailed material then, I might have learned all the rudimentary concepts I know now in the course of a single week.
I've been out of high school for nearly 27 years (in fact, the year this kit was available - 1996 - was the year I graduated), and that was the only thing we had at the time. Well, that and the cart-rollable TV/VCR combos for in-class videos.
I actually have one of these pristine in box. Being an engineering teacher myself when I got this I wanted to incorporate this into my courses but haven't fit it in yet. This year sounds like a great time to finally put it in.
Well now you know the cpu is a dummy unit
Can we have a pdf of it?
@@MrAntonioSimone I know the video is on RUclips somewhere and Intel does still offer the pdf online for free last time I checked. It would be nice if every company gave back cause tech edu is criminally under focused and underfunded. There are not many people like me teaching this subject matter. Let me know if you find them.
I would love to see more videos about 90's retro stuff. Anthony is a perfect host for them and they are very entertaining. Also as a kid in the 90's these videos are
full of member berries. lol
Check out LGR's channel. He does a bunch of retro stuff.
@@TigerofRobare I was going to say the same thing.
I was 13 and in Junior High back in 1996 and we actually went through this exact class! It's surreal seeing this because it brings back so many memories from that era! Oh and when Linus said "wealthy people had computers" ...by 1996 they were becoming common in households. All of my friends had them. My family got our first desktop in 1988 and were the first family in the entire area to have one. At THAT time organizations were the only ones who had them, in addition to the wealthier people who had them in their homes.
My math prof in CC uses an overhead occasionally, even though she recognizes that it is kind of outdated. She literally only does this because they refuse to take the cart out of her room. She is hoping one day the bulb dies and she can finally put something else in that corner, lol. Honestly I think it’s kinda cool though, the only other time I have ever seen one used was in my 2nd grade music class, because that teacher didn’t want to copy all of the hundreds, maybe thousands of sheet music transparencies she had onto the computer. Which I guess makes some sense back when computes were still kind of new, in like, 2006…
This has got to be one of my favorite LTT videos of all time, Anthony has finally ascended to the level in the community of Commentary RUclipsr. Excellent. I want more. I loved the style, and would love more videos about old tech and old tech education products.
I loved this one. I've also never heard them referred to as "laminates." Here they were called "transparencies".
In the US? Because where I live we also called them transparencies.
I think that is what they were called where I am too. Maybe just "projector slides" if you didn't have a name for it.
@@anon_y_mousse No. Ontario Canada, 1980s - maybe into the early 90s. I think Anthony is confusing transparencies with laminated paper. Obviously, something that's laminated would block light and cannot be used on an overhead projector. I think this is just an error.
If you were along the great lakes, your terminology might have been influenced by the US. But, idk. I am from Northern Ohio and we called the transparencies as well.
in italy we call that laminates
In my UK school in the early 90s, I was taught this stuff. I was taught how CPUs worked and about operators and operands, logic gates and all sorts. Are they not teaching computing at this level in schools any more?
We need more 90s throwback stuff like this. Just yall talking about an Overhead Projector, looking at the 90s School Tape and talking about a VCR just threw me back. I use to hate school back in the 90s and early 2000s now I miss it.
Anthony said that when he was a kid, they learnt about word processors as typewriters that you can correct your mistakes on.
Well I’m a 15yr old (10th grade) in India, and our national institution for conducting secondary school exams does in fact teach IT to us in exactly that way. For the last two years we’ve just learnt about free office suites (Libre and Open Office) where this was used as an example during the introduction of the topic.
But this year we are *finally* getting into wtf a network, an internet, an instant messenger, etc. is.
You're way beyond my time! The first time I touched a computer in the class was in 8th grade, which for us was the 3rd year of Middle School, just before starting High School in Grade 9. So I was 12 or 13 years old at that time. My dad had a computer (he repaired and programmed them), but even through High School, we didn't have computers in the classrooms. In fact, if you wanted to take the computer class, it was held in the library, which had the main assortment of computers.
But because my dad had a computer, we got to use them ourselves for homework, which was very nice. Especially when he would type our papers up for us while we dictated them, WITH some corrections too! 😀
One of the things we learnt about was - MySQL in 10th grade (2020 class). What is your school board if you don't mind me asking?
Is indian schools teaching libre and open office common ? Do they also use Linux and other free/open source software ?
@@stacksmasherninja7266 I'm in class 12th from India, and I can say that till class 8th students are taught Excel, Access, Word etc and yes some QBasic and HTML too (talking about ICSE Board) and class 9th onwards, we're taught Java till 12th in ICSE and Phython in CBSE Board
@@upsatwal The greatest board ofc, CBS /s
Having a more current version like this even today would still be great in schools, as there's still many who struggle with the basics of a computer. Sure, it seems like those going through school today know how to use a cell phone, but when ask to use a desktop or even a laptop they're totally at a lose. Not just kids, but people today in their 20+ years can barely use computers at time. I feel luck that my high school we had a computer class, learned and even built computers through the course. I just kept learning and making mistakes after that to be able to do what I can with computers today.
Even with the the vast knowledge on the internet today, people still struggle with the basics of computer knowledge(among other things). I think all schools should teach a basic course on computers these days consider how integrated they are in society. Heck, this was meant for middle school, I wish we had something cool like this going through middle school.
bruh how can someone not know how to operate a computer
@@hernimaniak2379 Very easily. My sister took a collage course that they used laptops in the class and the amount of people that struggled to find the power button to boot up the laptops in the class room was baffling to her.
I have an Aunt who lives in a, "Back-water" type city and the tech up there is so limited. When a 4th gen CPU computer impresses the natives of this place it is a wonder they can get up in the morning. Still family, but my god I'm glad I rarely interact with them.
As someone who gets called a, "Guru", because of being able to Google search and follow instructions, there's a great many that are unable/refuse to do so. It seems you're lucky that you've not encounter many of these individual lacking in basic computer skills despite it being so ingrained into today's society.
Though, it is also understandable. I may understand the basics of say, "planting a plant", but I lack the skill in keeping it healthy. That's just an example. That lack of knowledge will differ depending where you live, how they are raised, and the education they get.
Even if you live in a higher tech city, there's always going to be people who lack the skills of certain things. Anyway, apology about the lengthy reply, but even though it feels like everyone should know how to do basic computers skill, that is never going to apply to a percentage of people.
@@Wristan i like long comments
give today's children PC parts, they are totally lost.
I actually thought they would be much more technically proficient today. But the opposite is the case.
The kids of the 80's who programmed with C64/Amiga/Atari/IBM are the programmers of the last decade and the ones who assembled their PCs in the 90's and 2000's are the engineers of today. Do I have to tell you what today's "coffee cup hot warning" generation asks on outube when it comes to PC builds?
Exactly, the self-fulfilling profecy is still long due.
I love seeing the editor's personality interjected every once in a while, makes the already good content that much better
Wow, a core memory was unlocked today. We had that exact poster in our computer lab/library in our rural Ontario school. I don't remember seeing this actual kit but it's cool to know what it came from.
10:50 Can confirm that the level of IT knowledge possessed by teachers in the 90's was borderline non existent. I was 10 when this product came out and I was the preferred go-to tech support for my school.
oddly enough my mother had more IT training as a librarian back then than they do today. she could setup networked desktops, now it's wait till the IT guy comes around in a week
@@AsbestosMuffins they really should have a couple teachers have some knowledge of this. If nothing else to teach.
@@AsbestosMuffins Back in highschool we had to wait for the IT guy to come replace a cable for the classroom phone.
don't worry teacher's IT knowledge is still non-existent, with only a few teachers who actually teaches IT or computer knowing quite a bit.
Do you think that changed over the last 30 years?
1:30 Yes it is a Mac font, it is "Chicago 89". That and Palatino were my favourites at the time.
EDIT : [I should have noted, 89 refers to the bitmap size, back when vector graphics were not available. So you had Chicago 8-9 if you wanted your text sized 8 or 9, and if you go up too far you need a bigger version such as "Chicago 24". I believe that size is calculated from the pixel height of the font].
Yeah my assumption was '89 the year.
Don't feel too old there Anthony, I'm only 19 and I remember having overhead projectors all through elementary school
man, talk about a fast track to feeling old. but heck yeah! that teaching packet was really well put together from what y'all showed. everything about it was amazing!
Note for LTT editors: the HDR looks desaturated on my OnePlus 7 Pro (other HDR videos look fine). Reminds me of bad HDR tone mapping on Windows. SDR is fine though. Tried watching the HDR version of this video on a 16" M1 Macbook Pro and it looks fine. Now I see why LTT was so hesitant to publish HDR for so long.
Giving you that authentic mid 90's look bro
It looked really saturated on an LG OLED. In my S21 it looks fine.
On my Phone it trips a lot. It switches from very bright to very dark in interval of 5 seconds...
Yeah it also looks desaturated on my poco x3
Edit: I also don't know of any way of making it sdr instead, I think that was also another thing Linus said about hdr on yt
I thought it was just me. Reading the comments, the colors of the commenter's profile icons are way off. (Note 9)
I had CS college professors 2 years ago, at a masters level, use transparents to teach their class since they were made years before and the material hasn’t changed since they were made.
I still remember having overheads into middle school and I'm 21. I always forget they exist, then I'll see stuff like this. This was super cool!
I remember my comp sci class in middle school had this kit, and that was funny enough, in 1996. Funny to hear about overhead projectors, as even in college for 3D animation, in 2003, we still overhead projectors, not for the main classes, but a lot of the academic classes.
This reminds me of when my high school in the 90s offered some computer classes, but they were all Office specific applications (not general concepts).
Well my computer classes, already well into the 2000's, where just mechanography and office
@@YOEL_44 Yep even in 2012 or so...
well mine a few years ago (like 2017) was only office so...(ok it is germany give them a break)
I really hope we get to see the MS-DOS gaming build!
Also, we would love to see the slides and material in-full. Would love to see a crash course on computer science from back in the day.
Maybe you could get Barbara on board for a modern video series here or on the other sub-channels you have
I imagine one part of the MS DOS build will be soldering in all new solid-state capacitors. The old liquid caps from 25 years ago will *not* be good anymore.
Loved the hard transition to MANSCAPED immediately after nostalgic reminiscing.
I remember how my specialised early English instruction school in the Soviet Union began to have "informatics" classes in the 80-s. The classroom could be seen a mile away by its heavy iron-clad door and 2 locks in addition to an extra padlock. They were afraid that we were going to steal these computers. A prospect we laughed at. We knew these were worth a lot of money, but obviously didn't have the slightest of clues how would one go about selling a computer, to whom, or how one would advertise having it in such a way as to not attract the local police from a 100 kilometres away, not to mention the KGB. We were pretty certain that each had some kind of a homing device inside or at the very least - they'd each be enumerated and catalogued in multiple paper files shared across a bunch of government agencies.
8:30 fun fact: overhead projectors are more comman than beamers or similar in german schools (at least from my experience) because germany is a country with a lot of modern technology in schools!!!
You mean modern technologies like computer labs with Windows 98 in 2019? To be fair though they improved their game during the first few lockdowns in 2020 when everyone was forced to do online class.
@@Sassi7997 up until last year we still had machines from 2008 with windows 7 and the only thing that improved during the lockdowns was tablets for the class reps in 21/22. if you couldn't do online classes because "your internet was too slow" or "it crashed a lot" you were simply sent the exercises per email which you then had to bring to school the next time it was opened
@@thebyzocker Well, "never change a running system" is a very common way of thinking here in Germany... 😂
Austria is the same. The only digitalisation we get is in elementary school. I guess they think that anyone older than 14 doesn't need all the new stuff anymore, since they are already used to the old stuff. So 6 year old kids all get an iPad which they destroy in 5 months. Or for the online classes mio of € are used to buy thousands of 350€ laptops which are complete garbage.
Well, it depends.
My daughter is at a normal "Gymnasium" school in Germany and they have digital Boards and books.
But they don't have enough teachers and have less subjetcs than they are supposed to.
Guess which subjects get cut the most...
I love the idea of a video where Anthony just teaches a computer science class from 1989 to the LTT crew
I predict Linus breaks something and ends up in the corner with a dunce cap.
I remember these back in the day, I had completely forgotten these till this video lol. We had a few in my school. I was in high school in the mid 90s and were lucky that we had a great couple technology educators - despite growing up in the middle of nowhere podunk hillbilly land (town of 4k people.) We had a great chapter of the "Technology Student Association" and due to the two educators, that club, and getting to see other parts of the country - I was able to escape the social / financial black hole of where I originate from and so far - have a wonderful life and a great career in IT.
When I was in middle school (back in 2012-14) my school had those over head projectors. Brought back alot of memories.
I had an overhead projector in all my classes until I started highschool in 2010, and up until that point, the S.M.A.R.T board was starting to becoming a thing in some classrooms but not all. It was very shortly after that where all my classes had a S.M.A.R.T board. By the time I had graduated in 2014, the "mobile lab" was a thing where there would be a big shelf of laptops that would be rolled from room to room and of course there was still the computer lab running Windows XP on the Dell Omniplex. The year after I graduated, my school announced that they had gotten a grant to distribute Chromebooks to every student. Kind of crazy how much I've seen change during my time in school from 2000-2014.
Heh I remember one of my teachers (some sort of early STEM modular learning class) in middle school had a SMART board... except that was way back in 1998. It was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen lol
@@lexusls I thought the smart boards were pretty cool too in the late 2000s. Lol. Didn't know they were around for that long. My school acted like they were breaking new ground on education when they first got them. That said, my schools were massively under budget. In fact, a friend of mine helped leak the salaries of the teachers when I was in high school, and a lot of them made less than $28,000 a year.
Our labs always had iMacs and eMacs
Yah we were the same
They first gave them to math classes then to other stem classes then the rest
I worked in a semi-conductor factory when I left school in the 80`s. The bit I worked in used to cut up the wafer and attached them to the lead frame. Then we had to wire bond the chips and lead frame. Used gold or ali wires. Made everything from telephone chips to SOS space chips.
I remember overhead projectors they were the best lessons! I also remember literacy class and saving our work to 1.44MB 3.5" floppy disks. Kids these day have no idea how lucky they are.
I graduated high school in 1996, college in 2000. Internet was a concept in high school. Networking was a thing and security was coded by our computer teacher. The memories.... I was privileged to grow up during the progression on the home computer. This is great.
This was a feel-good cozy nostalgia trip. I played Civ 1 on our 486 and went online with a very slow modem. It was 1993 and I was 8. That was before Pentium! I loved the video. Anthony could turn the contents of a phone book into something interesting. His relaxed and patient style gels perfectly with Linus' energy. More history themed videos about non-controversial subjects please. Turn cozy up to 11.
First computer we had was a 386. With a whopping 16 MHz processor, 5 MB RAM, and an 80 MB hard drive (:
Windows 3.11, but you had to start games from MS-DOS
It ran Dune 2... poorly ;)
And Cannon Fodder;
a demo of DOOM (On one or two 1.44MB 'not-so-floppy' disks); Lemmings; X-Wing (5 disks... You had to switch them out as you advanced in the game); Sim City (poorly, as more of your city was built. But only 1 disk :)))
I also remember playing Wolfenstein 3D at a friend's house.. My mind was blown by the amazing 3D graphics :')
(I was used to 2D games only)
You need to watch LGR or Michael MJD, exactly this type of vibe.
@@iggysixx lets not forget Prince of Persia, doom, and duke nukem. Not sure if it could run directly from 3.11, as I always just remember running it in DOS. 😅
@@iggysixx You had a hard drive? lol Apple IIe only had (64 or) 128k of memory with a 5 1/4 drive. played Oregon Trail in 1983? on a similar Apple computer
@@erkkiboy oh yeah :) I had Doom too (demo version). On eh.. 1 disk I think? (:
Had Prince of Persia too, but I always died too soon in that one ;) I preferred games where there wasn't a specific location in the game where I always failed :P
A blast from the past. We want more episodes like this one.
Loved watch Anthony dig into these old docs. I had just graduated university with my degree in CS at this point. Would love to sit down and talk shop with Anthony and Linus from how we did things in the 80s.
Now I have an urge to have Anthony do a side-series where he provides commentary on old tech VCR tapes like this.
I hope most people know what an overhead projector is. I definitely still used them in elementary school before things started getting replaced (I'm 19 btw for reference)
Same I'm 21 and my elementary school had em. My younger brothers school doesn't tho, so I think people younger than us probably don't know what they are
I was a kid when these came out. I was homeschooled and my mom got the 3rd edition kit. I had a ton of fun with it with my siblings and I used the LEDs and 9v battery connectors in my other projects after the kit served it's purpose. I was already really into computers at the time but this kit was amazing. I also tried the CPU from the kit in an old computer and it also didn't work.
Wow, what a nice childhood you had!
How do you know someone is homeschooled? They’ll never stop talking about it. 😂
@@Evan_Rodgers probably because how good it was. What he has missed at social interactions, he gained in education.
@@Evan_Rodgers It's the isolation, they need to talk about themselves because they've had no peers in their formative years.
Thank you editor for the overhead projector note, Anthony was struggling.
We've had overhead projectors at my elementary school here in Finland, and we only had ONE touchscreen "chalkboard". When I moved to middle school, to 7th grade in 2016, the principal at our elementary school changed and he put a modern screen-touch-chalkboard thing in every classroom
10:47 Something they got very wrong is that despite being integral to classwork, many teachers have no idea how to use a computer
Yep! Know this for a FACT.
10:50 I mean, computer scientists knew where the trajectory was heading to. Even Alan Turing made some terrifyingly accurate predictions of what the future of computing would be
LTT should definitely make a series going through all the lessons. It would be really cool and informative.
Go through the lessons but then explain how things are different today where appropriate 😃
Great video and an awesome throw back right into when I was hitting middle school and getting into PCs and upgrades. I don't believe I ever knew about this awesome kit though!
Being born in 02, I witnessed the transition from overhead projectors to smart boards and projectors connected to pcs. It's weird to think that even my younger brother probably doesn't remember using one if he ever did
Edit: I was resided in the United States
Yup, born in 2000; witnessed the transition from chalkboards and overheads to whiteboards and Epson projectors. SMARTBoards were an interesting time, but they really quickly got replaced with projectors that could do the pen part themselves with the whiteboard
@@user-ch7vc4qe2q 2005 here, and yeah I've only had one teacher who used a SMARTBoard, not very popular now I guess.
You guys had it so much better with computers in your kid days than others like me born in the 90's or even those prior to that (albeit those had most likely home computers which is an entire different beast on its own).
Ditto, 2001. We still had chalk boards and overhead in middle school, (not in elementary - it was a new building). Teachers had document cameras and smart boards in high school which was crazy cool for like the first week.
Around 2015, schools in my area started getting ceiling mounted projectors that connect to the teacher's computer. The first round were somewhat rudimentary but as time went on, they included boards you could draw on with special stylist pens.
Ah yes... I remember when those were first installed in my school... it was less than 3 hours until one of the teachers drew on it with a normal marker instead of the pen that came with it... it did not wipe off and had to be replaced
@@undamaged1813 Some teachers use them as a whiteboard. The marker comes off... mostly.
My primary school had one of the oldest interactive whiteboards i have ever seen, it had one pen which reqired like 4 AA batteries to work. Unfortunatly it never worker but it must have been built back in the early-mid 2000's. Even when i left in 2015 occassionally the old ovsrhead projector would have to be dragged out as the more modern digital ones were always breaking down
I remember a SmartBoard appeared in my school around 2006-2008. It took a decade before every classroom got equipped with something similar, based on what I heard from kids later.
They started implementing them in my school (I think it was around 2010 or so) but the issue was that almost none of the professors were actually using them for anything other than projecting images.
The thinkpad 760 series had a model with removable lcd back cover so you could put the screen on the overhead projector and basically use is as a beamer.
Thanks for making me feel super old for collecting VHS tapes LTT. Btw really want to add that VHS to my collection now.
Love seeing Anthony more and more comfortable on camera over the years and solo hosting main channel videos.
He also hasn't been on camera lately for a while so it's great to see him back on the main channel
Same Mann. Same
Facts hes the goat fr
LTT has survived on Linus hiring people more charming than himself.... Luke, Alex, Anthony, etc...
Having Linus pop in on this video with his insight was quite great. I like this style of video or others like it where a wild guest will appear and offer information or opinions on the topic. Very good job with this blast from the past video!
My school was a few years behind too, we were using overhead projectors in 2014; and teachers still don't know to use computers, even the youngest of my teachers had issues throughout my time in school.
I'm only 19 and I still remember having to learn on overhead projectors way back in elementary school, though I do remember we finally got our first "smart board" in 7th grade with the touch pens that hardly worked etc. We made a big jump in two years
Linus is right: this is not "duh!"
I work in a middle school: teachers - even nowadays - don't always know how to use computers. Sure, most of the good ones do, but they tend to be more sciency / mathy Beta subject teachers.
Yep that was my experience as well. The only teachers that ever really respected and understood computers were the science, math, and engineering departments (no, not even the computer science department). Even if they weren’t the most savvy with using them, they always respected them as a tool to assist them and become more productive, whereas any other department saw them as either distractions or hinderances.
What are you on about beta subjects? Math's and science are core subjects, how can a person survive if they cannot count?
Someone either has very low self-esteem or isn't actually a teacher.
I have a teacher that still uses laminates here in the UK, while most just use huge touchscreens nowadays, I think they are cool and tactile and actually quite practicle.
My elementary school had two 386's in 1996 and they were used solely as a catalog for our library.
I remember overhead projectors, I thought they were so very cool, when I was a kid.
The first time I got to USE a computer was 1976. A friend owned it, he ordered a kit that was just a CPU and keyboard (no case on it, just the circuit board with the key switches and caps, and two little wedges of wood to put on the sides) the PCB for the main board with a parts list and schematic. It was black and white, used a TV for display and stored data on audio cassette tape. I got to play, Adventure, "I feel a draft".
I didn't own a computer until 1984, Commodore Vic-20, after that is was ON, I was hooked. I had a home built 3KB RAM expansion on the Vic-20, cost around $100.00 to build. By the 90's I was using Amigas and running a CNet Amiga BBS. Got our first intel based computer in something like 1994/5, a used 386DX.
Internet? The friend that had that computer in 1976 worked at University, we got on the 8 bit Commodore and used dialup to connect. He taught me about get and put and using punter to download and got cool things (for the time) for my little 8 bit toy.