Quick note: sry if it sounds like I’m talking a lot about tenet and inception especially in the first half. Even the Nolan movies I like aren’t exempted from my issues but I do think inception and tenet are the biggest offenders of them.
Yeah, any criticism of Nolan always gets you 100 responses of the same "you're just too dumb and didn't get the film". Brother, 90% of the dialogue is pure exposition, that's part of the problem
for me Nolan is like teh best student in the class but nothing else, like he is the one who does the most of pages in writing test because he thinks more pages means better but there is no heart in it, he does the work right but is so robotic. He is what the girls think about the cinephile guy
also there is this thing who many people said to me and for me is so true, in which the more the budget for his movies increases the more bad it is. in the oscars i felt such a strange feeling when it got oscars and nominees, as if it was certain that ophennaimer was the best movie( zone of interest, holdovers, Anatomy of a fall where so much better).
Tbh he did that in Interstellar, Prestige and Tenet, they blamed him for over-complicating things and were very divisive originally. Only later are these films considered great.
@@atharvadeshpande6907 He absolutely did not trust his audience with Interstellar. It is a known fact that he deviated from Kip Thorne's advice because he thought the audience would not understand or like the correct physics. He was wrong. Interstellar is so annoying in the amount of plot holes but despite that, everyone and their mother think they make sense when in fact they don't, and defend him as you're about to do now, no doubt.
I agree with you. I really wanted to like this movie - but it felt like I was enduring it. Especially the last hour. I wouldn't have minded stopping watching it 2 hours in.
@@micah1754 not a specific scene no, it was just a gradually feeling of disengagement with the film as it went on. The court scene towards the latter half was pretty cool tho
Oppenheimer was good. In my opinion its problem is exactly this, don't let the audience digest the moment, because of the amount of unnecessary exposition. The scenes cut to something else every time, someone is ridding a horse stops, say something, next a mad scientist gets in the lab screaming, next the trial thing, next flash forward to Einstein, next another thing and so on. The bomb was an incredible climax, but after that we're still watching a long boring trial for what? Nothing happened at the end.
Instead of showing his affairs to the communist, they should show Japan in some way, the dead people or something… at least in the news. We know he's regretting, they never showed why.
@@TheVeganButcher I can agree with that. I actually don’t mind the trial too much especially the one scene where the lights are flickering and they’re having a heated argument. That was super cool and I’ll always appreciate Oppenheimer for using interesting visuals during these talkative scenes
@@TheVeganButcher because this movie written by one person perspective that's why he didn't show a bomb sequence but this movie was great for me because Nolan use Hitchcock style he didn't show impact of bomb he show a fear of bomb.
Nolan's movies are full of exposition and generates this fake sense of being intelligent just because we understood a few lines of intelligent ( seemingly) dialogue. Very Bland director.
The dialog was odd. There were 2 scenes that were just out of left field. When he meets Werner Heisenberg (the most renowned guy) he opens by saying, "I need to go home". Similarly, odd was his convo w/ another giant in physics Bohr. He just complained a bit. Didn't speak about science or what's new. And way to long.
Probably because the movie is told out of order but idk I don’t remember too too much. I’m sure someone can explain it maybe? Also yeh a bit too long for me
You’re thinking about how their conversations are as if they are supposed to be “normal”. Scientists do not engage in small talk much. The “I need to get back to America” line in response to “we could publish together” was his response to his question. I also would like to point out that the first thing he says to Heisenberg is “probably because you inspired it”.
@matthewg11678 I was hoping for some good scientific debate or jargon. It was wasted. Scientists are very clever and witty as well. "God doesn't roll the dice'.
I haven't actually seen Oppenheimer but I can appreciate the general criticisms (and I always like a good hot take! 😂). I think Interstellar was the turning point. A little on the nose at times, but the characters were good I thought and the themes were woven into the story pretty well. Dunkirk was the flattest, most emotionless war movie I've ever seen. Didn't like it. Tenet was ambitious but ultimately too high concept and it made no actual sense because it broke its own rules at every turn. And plus you couldn't hear half the dialogue and the characters were little more than cardboard cutouts. I expected Oppenheimer was probably gonna be low hanging fruit for Nolan. Biopics are kind of en vogue (despite being generally maligned) and it's the freaking Manhattan Project, so of course people are gonna lend it more credence than Bohemian Rhapsody. He can pull out his nonlinear stuff to spice up what's otherwise a pretty straightforward story to make people think it's more complex than it really is. I still think The Dark Knight and Memento are the real masterpieces of his filmography.
Dunkirk is the greatest war film ever made. It was 100% on point. Brilliant cinematography, matching music, historically accurate, terrifying moments, anxiety inducing and masculine. I consider it as the most manliest war film ever.
Lol obviously none, I just meant I like when Christopher Nolan gives us really cool concepts and fantastical ideas. But this is a biopic so obviously it’s just not gonna be that 😂
I loved it. But, I also loved the book American Prometheus (on which the script is pretty much based). There are some cool things, like a quick showing of black gloves ….b/c there were rumors that Jean Tatlock’s death may not have been a suicide. But, she did deal with depression, so I don’t want to add to conspiracy theories. But, reading the book, knowing that Richard Feynman was the young dude playing the drums / bongos. Hearing some of Feynman’s antics at Los Alamos, etc. He also wrote a good book called something like; “My view from below,” as he was still very young in those days, and wasn’t as renowned as he would later become. Anyway, I agree about the dialogue/ sound-mixing. Even with a great score, there are parts where I think to myself, “add subtitles!” Anyway, I loved it. But, I can absolutely see how someone could find the three hour run time torturous…especially if someone goes in just hoping for some cool music / action sequences. That’s not this movie. But, I’m old, and I quite loved the film.
Very glad u enjoyed this film. Definitely thinking of giving it a second chance but idk when that will be. I’m just happy that films like this are getting attention and don’t need to be attached to an existing IP or franchise to get people talking. Just a director who knows his stuff
Nolan movies are definetely an acquired taste, the exposition problem is an issue you have to live with. But i still love his movies regardless because of the concepts that he tackles which other filmmakers are too afraid to take on because they also dk how to do the exposition. He feels like he's adapting full books into movie form and keeping the entire lore, thats why people get really invested in his movies. I cant defend Tenet i feel like he went too far with that one but i will die defending every other Nolan movie. There's a reason he's considered one of the greatest directors of our time.
As a Nolan fan, you make some excellent points. I think for me I can accept the way his stories are told because I know what I’m getting into with his films. I would be disappointed if every film was like that, but I’m okay with his style, if not only because it stands out
@@Megh_Vachhani lol, what do you mean I didn't get it? The story is very straightforward. There's nothing to unwind after the film other than your own thoughts on the moral dilemmas presented. However, the use of nonlinear story structure was unnecessary and, at times, difficult to follow. There was no need to jump around in the timeline other than a "twist" that didn't add anything, and, in my opinion, distracted from the philosophical and ethical questions presented.
Honestly, I felt the same way. I was incredibly bored and had to stop watching halfway and continue at a later time. Despite the large cast, I failed to establish any connection with the characters. I couldn't even recall most of their names, and the storyline held no interest for me. Overall, it was a disappointing and a boring experience.
I think the reason you didn’t connect with other characters is because the movie is portrayed as a first person point of view. Nolan wrote the script in the first person as Oppenheimer. Therefore you do not go on side quests with other characters that would allow you to connect with them more.
Oh boy... Nolan is a terrible Director, terrible... i could point out here so so many flaws in The Dark Knight but doesn't matter, people would never admit that anyways. Nolan is a magician, playing tricks in everyone.
Then how come the best directors in the industry have said he’s a great director? I’m not saying he’s perfect because he isn’t. But you not liking his style of movie doesn’t make him a terrible director.
@matthewg11678 for me It is. Its not about style, is about issues. His direction is full of issues and the most common is not finishing crucial situations that needs to be finished in a scene. As an example, Batman saves Rachel by jumping from the building and catching her, right? Scene finished. No, the Joker is still there upstairs full of prisoners terrorizing that party. What happened? How that situation was solved? Doesn't matter, the movie just moves on and forgets about It as we suppose to do. That my friend isn't a style of direction, that is a pure direction mistake. That is It.
It think Nolan thought... Yeah. We pick something and Make it Pretentious. Watched Interstellar 2 Days ago... and the Movie goes NOWHERE. It is Inflated AIR.
Nolan's sounds is actually a very common criticism, and he did come out and explain it, sound mixing for all his movies are tailored for imax and dolby atmos theatres which have more outputs than 7.1 and 5.1 sound systems. The downmixing for home entertainment is where the issue arises. Thats why for oppenheimer, nolan worked on a separate version of the movie where the sound has been custom made for TVs smaller screens.
Nolans movies look great. But they generally are too clever for their own good. They can also be highly indulgent. But to Oppenheimer. It was a good - very good movie for a couple of hours. Tacking on an hour extra for an extra plot was poor film making in my mind. If Nolans name was not attached to this movie, it would be an obscure side feature in the cineplex... that would be relatively unnoticed.
There were so many times were I watched his films and I’m like “dude I get it ur smart”. But he’s always very creative and has a way of shaking things up. So I appreciate that
I tried watching Oppenheimer but as I was at home and not in the cinema I did fall asleep. Never went back to finish it off because I simply didn't care and still don't. Haven't seen the pink film either.
Love that you admit as HxH fans that uses lot of exposition lol. I don't think exposition is the problem. More of how to make those exposition interesting and not making it feel that the character is currently becoming a tool moutpiece only for writers to infodump. HxH kinda avoids it with narrators but come at the cost of taking an entire page filled with text either due to shonen page restriction, his skill, or his backpain. About Nolan, I do agree, he could've been less on the nose but I still enjoy it. Oppie's character truly feels compelling for me. Hencr why, I'm ok with that style.
I totally agree with the music. It always is there, almost everytime. Sometimes I don't understand the dialogs because of the permanent penetrating music. I really hate it! In Oppenheimer it was over the top too much so I stopped at some point because it made me really aggressive...
Inception and Tenet are average movies. Actually, Tenet was below average. Disastrous even. Inception was a snoozefest for me. And yes, his constant use of the score is annoying af.
Exactly. The best way to describe it. He makes his entire film like a movie trailer and it is the sound most of all that takes me completely out of his films. It’s too present. The creative decisions are too conscious and apparent .
This movie was so far up it's own ass I can't even begin to enjoy it. It would have been a more interesting story if he had told it CHRONOLOGICALLY for ONCE! Oh, that meeting with the communist club in college came back to haunt him, oh shit! This was about a team of people that learned how to harness the power of the atom and there wasn't ever a single moment of "That's it! We figured it out!". The female characters were awful, per usual with Nolan. I was begging for it to be over with 50 minutes left.
Maybe there wasn’t a moment of “That’s it’s we figured it out” in the movie because that’s not how it actually happened. I also think you miss the point of how they thought back then. Yes they wanted to figure out how to make a bomb, but they weren’t exactly happy when they found out they did, they were greatly scared. So yes the movie didn’t have the oh shit we did it moment, and if it did it would look so out of place.
I meant more so within the context of the movie. Like yeah it’s common knowledge to ppl that Harvey dent is two face but the movie still makes it kind of on the nose. More so with the theme
Dudee same nice to see someone else feels the same way about his movies never understood why people love them and just wrote it off as me not being the target demographic for them the best i can describe them are they feel like marvel movies and yeah absolutely for me his movies lack substance and ofc he sucks at female characters its always outdated stereotypical tropes with them and Oppenheimer i liked some visual aspects of it but the movie was disappointing as i'm interested in the source material and the movie went a different direction than i thought like character exploration would have been amazing for this movie with the moral ambiguity of it all but alas and so much goddamn exposition its really not my cup of tea none of his movies are and yeah barbie was so good ryt
Glad to u see shared a similar sentiment, I think personally his movies have substance it’s just they tend to feel very overblown sometimes. Also Barbie was epic
That was fascinating. Well done. Have you seen the footage of Nolan tring to explain memento?Nolan works like a true modernist: mystify your audience, by any means possible, and they will go out thinking you are a genius (even though in reality you are a pretentious fraud). In the future, Nolan's movies will be played at comedy festivals. 'Open-hymen' has been rightly criticized, as being an illusory sex-ography, rather than a piece of history. 'Dark Knight' is an absolute embarrassment: Ledger absolutely overcooks his role; we have Bale's ridiculous Batman voice, and Caine's cringe-inducing sobs - a spectacle of infantile garbage.
I appreciate your perspective, but I believe what you are highlighting is an issue with the new generations. They tend to demand increasingly simplified content, making a complex film like Christopher Nolan's appear too intricate for their taste. In a world where every generation seeks simplicity, this movie now resembles a philosophical book from 200 years ago. Personally, I enjoyed it greatly, as it's the kind of film that you can watch multiple times and still find enjoyment. Thankfully, we have such films, which stand in contrast to woke propaganda or superficial superhero movies.
I agree, I’m really happy movies like Oppenheimer are getting some love cus Nolan’s movies are very creative and they challenge u at the end of the day. I really happy a movie didn’t need to be attached to a pre existing IP or franchise to be popular. People care about history which is good
@@fumbuswumbus So you didn't feel like Inception was over-complicated and in the end, to just tell you nothing ? It was like a poor man's version of Matrix.
@@En_theo I think it was pretty complicated yeh, but ig it’s usually the dialogue that kind of over complicates things. Like so much of the movie is explaining what’s happening but I still feel lost. Even Oppenheimer as very dense dialogue when the story can be broken down as “man makes bomb and feels he’s doomed the world”. That being said the story of inception was always quite interesting
honestly, as a student of physics the movie couldn't have been more straight forward. it was beautifully constructed and the music was immaculate. I mean if you aren't a huge fan of courtroom dramas the end part might be a bit of a stretch to you(which in my case it kinda was). The movie wasn't just about the Manhattan project, it was about the life, the inner demons, and the internal struggle of the scientist after the aftermath of the bombing. so, in my opinion it was pretty straight forward and great. but I do respect your point of view.
Yeh fs, I said in the video that I most likely don’t have the best understanding of Oppenheimer and that it simply wasn’t for me. The movie was not complicated but just very dense and a little overwhelming for me who isnt the smartest. But overall story is pretty easy to explain “Oppenheimer makes the bomb and now feels he has doomed the world”. Very much an oversimplification on my part but u can break it down kinda like that. I’m really glad u enjoyed it and I do think a lot of work when into Oppenheimer as a character which I very much appreciate
Interesting! Different strokes for different folks eh. I'm not a physics student, molecular bio. But I found the movie didn't really scratch my itch on the science side of it, giving more of a look in at the trails and tribulations of building the bomb and the science side of it. It really was more of a focus on the trial drama especially for the second half, and I started to tune out. And we were supposed to just know from the outset 'this guy is amazing'. But I didn't feel like the movie did a lot to show why or have you warm to the characters. I found the dialogue a bit pretentious too - not everything a character says needs to be a whitty quip - makes it feel false. It did make me want to go away and read more on the history of it all though. I understand the impact and horror of the bomb on the japanese was deliberate as it was through opps lens, but did feel a bit uneasy about that
It was about a sick NAZI doing awful ungodly manifestations. Trying to shine light on " commies " selfish desires. When a women knows your married and have kids but yet still want him. ( all while he's creating the worse WMD bomb ever. And the guy gets rewarded. ( aww he had demons yet still went thru his evil commie way )
For me , while not being my favorite Nolan movie(my favorite is interstellar), Oppenheimer is his best movie to date on paper. I didnt feel the lenght of the movie at all and was heavily invested in the events that it talked about and how unlike his other movies, this is truly a movie focused on one character. This is not a movie about trinity, its about oppenheimer, and that difference is very important because most other filmmakers would lose that distinguishing factor. The ensemble is brilliant, Cillian Murphy and RDJ are gonna get oscars, the editing, the score, the cinematography, and above those THE WRITING are magnificent. Ive read the book thats its based on now and trust me the adaptation is perfect, like it deserves the best adapted screenplay oscar. Also this movie tackles every angle about oppenheimer that everyone thinks of, did he do it out of a moral sense, did he do it out of patriotism, did he do it out of selfishness to make himself important, and why he came to be against his most important creation. Its Nolan's most nuanced screenplay yet, we havent had something like this since the prestige. For me it was in my top 3 movies of the year, but i keep flipping between it and spiderman:ATSV for number 1.
I totally disagreed, and I don't wanna see Oppenheimer too except Japanese people. I'm not a fan of Christopher Nolan, and Cillian Murphy doesn't look exceptional at all. I wish critics must have said it shouldn't outgross Barbie.
Nolan makes terrible movies, not complicated and over intelligent just terrible movies and what's up with the dialog even when you can hear it, which at most of the time you can't. That's not great filmmaking, lazy and lame.
I feel if oppenheimer was directed by a director like damien chazelle or denis villenueve. It could have been more better. Nolan is a good director and most influenial. But this time it didnt work. Well this will offend casual nolan fanboys .
I’m a Nolan fan and see no reason to take offense to your statement because it’s a matter of personal preference in cinema. It may not have worked for you which is valid and I do agree there are a lot of things I would change about the movie. I do however think that Nolan was the best to direct this movie because he wanted to emphasize the gravity of this scientific discovery and portray it as a documentary in the first person. Yes Damien and Denis could’ve done a great job, I just don’t see them being able to do so as well as Nolan. Regardless that is just my opinion.
@matthewg11678 Thats a good take, I agree. With the announcement of odyssey lets see how nolan portrays fantasy and mythical genre , which is different from what he does !
prehaps at the start I was a nolan fanboy, but the more movies and media Ive seen, the more I realise there can be alot more soul and identity to the characters in his films. His concepts are only ever as interesting as a main character driver/motivation to steer the narrative. Inception was great only becuase the dream element had a personal stake to the main character; Interstellar was great as the personal stake (though sloppily) linked into the main concept. Oppenheimer while really artistic and grand; didnt make me feel any personal stakes/ regret/ moral dilemma albiet ONE or two scenes (a detachment to the horrors of the atomic bomb didnt help and a side-track to the court room drama felt random.) Prehaps the trailer did decieve us into just showcasing the manhattan project as the forefront of the film but the first and second acts did feel highly irrelevant to me. Tenet was the worst offender of this trope by completely detaching any personal stake and even violating its own rules. I just saw Dune 2 and felt how much more was conveyed with little words and yet the struggle and conflict was apparent. Prehaps less is more.
What movies do you think are better than the ones from Nolan? I’m not trying to throw a jab or be disrespectful, I’m just curious to see what movies you prefer.
What are some of your favorite movies? Movies you would say are better than his. I’m not trying to throw a jab or be disrespectful I’m just curious to what movies you prefer.
@matthewg11678 Well, I start with my favorite (truly) filmmakers: John Carpenter, Agnès Varda, Andrei Tarkovski, Brian DePalma, Kelly Reichardt, David Lynch, Céline Sciamma, Ingmar Bergman, Pedro Almodóvar, Hitchcock, Aki Kaurismäki, Jodorowsky, David Cronenberg, P.T. Anderson, George Romero, Ana Carolina, Eduardo Courinho to name the main ones. And some of my favorite films that are not by them in addition: The red shoes, Quo vadis Aida, The phantom carriage, TAR, Drive my car, Suspiria 2018, Arrival, The witch, Before trilogy, A matter of life and death, The cabinet of Dr Caligari, 8 1/2, The 3rd man, La jetee, All that jazz, Martyrs, Phoenix, Being John Malkovich, various with Buster Keaton and so on. By the way I have watched every movie by Nolan and I only enjoy Inception and Memento in some degree.
I am not American and Oppenheimer was an absolute boring mess and really disappointing and Nolan ruined it because he’s an overrated film maker. Everything said on this vid is on spot! And ah I forgot to mention how stupid and ignorant your comment is to bring his nationality into this!
Quick note: sry if it sounds like I’m talking a lot about tenet and inception especially in the first half. Even the Nolan movies I like aren’t exempted from my issues but I do think inception and tenet are the biggest offenders of them.
Nolans movies make dumb people feel smart.
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Exactly
Yeah, any criticism of Nolan always gets you 100 responses of the same "you're just too dumb and didn't get the film". Brother, 90% of the dialogue is pure exposition, that's part of the problem
Thats not true. He is actually underrated with the exception of oppenheimer.
@@quadaerospacespacecat8061 Tenet was pure gash.
for me Nolan is like teh best student in the class but nothing else, like he is the one who does the most of pages in writing test because he thinks more pages means better but there is no heart in it, he does the work right but is so robotic. He is what the girls think about the cinephile guy
also there is this thing who many people said to me and for me is so true, in which the more the budget for his movies increases the more bad it is. in the oscars i felt such a strange feeling when it got oscars and nominees, as if it was certain that ophennaimer was the best movie( zone of interest, holdovers, Anatomy of a fall where so much better).
I just wish Nolan trusted his audience more
Yeh same
Tbh he did that in Interstellar, Prestige and Tenet, they blamed him for over-complicating things and were very divisive originally. Only later are these films considered great.
@@atharvadeshpande6907 oh wow I did not know that? I guess the audience learned to trust Chris
@@fumbuswumbuswait for 2-3 years and watch Oppenheimer again, it would definitely change your perspective and you would like it
@@atharvadeshpande6907 He absolutely did not trust his audience with Interstellar. It is a known fact that he deviated from Kip Thorne's advice because he thought the audience would not understand or like the correct physics. He was wrong. Interstellar is so annoying in the amount of plot holes but despite that, everyone and their mother think they make sense when in fact they don't, and defend him as you're about to do now, no doubt.
I agree with you. I really wanted to like this movie - but it felt like I was enduring it. Especially the last hour. I wouldn't have minded stopping watching it 2 hours in.
I gave up trying to keep up 😭😭, I really wasn’t in the mood for that movie
That Inappropriate scene is the main reason i hate Oppenheimer. Besides there are many historical inaccuracies.
@@fumbuswumbus which scene?
@@micah1754 not a specific scene no, it was just a gradually feeling of disengagement with the film as it went on. The court scene towards the latter half was pretty cool tho
It was the most physically exhausting film I’ve ever watched.
i always felt like i was missing something when everyone kept talking about the dark knight or oppenheimer
this video explained why
Oppenheimer was good. In my opinion its problem is exactly this, don't let the audience digest the moment, because of the amount of unnecessary exposition. The scenes cut to something else every time, someone is ridding a horse stops, say something, next a mad scientist gets in the lab screaming, next the trial thing, next flash forward to Einstein, next another thing and so on. The bomb was an incredible climax, but after that we're still watching a long boring trial for what? Nothing happened at the end.
Instead of showing his affairs to the communist, they should show Japan in some way, the dead people or something… at least in the news. We know he's regretting, they never showed why.
@@TheVeganButcher I can agree with that. I actually don’t mind the trial too much especially the one scene where the lights are flickering and they’re having a heated argument. That was super cool and I’ll always appreciate Oppenheimer for using interesting visuals during these talkative scenes
@@TheVeganButcher because this movie written by one person perspective that's why he didn't show a bomb sequence but this movie was great for me because Nolan use Hitchcock style he didn't show impact of bomb he show a fear of bomb.
Finally finding out his conversation with Einstein was great I still think about it a lot
Nolan's movies are full of exposition and generates this fake sense of being intelligent just because we understood a few lines of intelligent ( seemingly) dialogue. Very Bland director.
The dialog was odd. There were 2 scenes that were just out of left field. When he meets Werner Heisenberg (the most renowned guy) he opens by saying, "I need to go home". Similarly, odd was his convo w/ another giant in physics Bohr. He just complained a bit. Didn't speak about science or what's new. And way to long.
Probably because the movie is told out of order but idk I don’t remember too too much. I’m sure someone can explain it maybe? Also yeh a bit too long for me
Wayyy too long - I was nodding off and clock watching in the last hour. Completely agree on the dialogue too. It was unnatural
@@micah1754 it was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring.
You’re thinking about how their conversations are as if they are supposed to be “normal”. Scientists do not engage in small talk much. The “I need to get back to America” line in response to “we could publish together” was his response to his question. I also would like to point out that the first thing he says to Heisenberg is “probably because you inspired it”.
@matthewg11678 I was hoping for some good scientific debate or jargon. It was wasted. Scientists are very clever and witty as well. "God doesn't roll the dice'.
I haven't actually seen Oppenheimer but I can appreciate the general criticisms (and I always like a good hot take! 😂). I think Interstellar was the turning point. A little on the nose at times, but the characters were good I thought and the themes were woven into the story pretty well. Dunkirk was the flattest, most emotionless war movie I've ever seen. Didn't like it. Tenet was ambitious but ultimately too high concept and it made no actual sense because it broke its own rules at every turn. And plus you couldn't hear half the dialogue and the characters were little more than cardboard cutouts. I expected Oppenheimer was probably gonna be low hanging fruit for Nolan. Biopics are kind of en vogue (despite being generally maligned) and it's the freaking Manhattan Project, so of course people are gonna lend it more credence than Bohemian Rhapsody. He can pull out his nonlinear stuff to spice up what's otherwise a pretty straightforward story to make people think it's more complex than it really is. I still think The Dark Knight and Memento are the real masterpieces of his filmography.
Well spoken my guy, prestige and memento are my goats
personally. Also I just gave up on tenet I didn’t care at all about it when I was watching
I agree but I loved the prestige and insomnia
Dunkirk is the greatest war film ever made. It was 100% on point. Brilliant cinematography, matching music, historically accurate, terrifying moments, anxiety inducing and masculine. I consider it as the most manliest war film ever.
His films feel like climax all the time. 😅
Honestly yeh…
What fiction was expected from a biopic lol
Lol obviously none, I just meant I like when Christopher Nolan gives us really cool concepts and fantastical ideas. But this is a biopic so obviously it’s just not gonna be that 😂
I loved it. But, I also loved the book American Prometheus (on which the script is pretty much based). There are some cool things, like a quick showing of black gloves ….b/c there were rumors that Jean Tatlock’s death may not have been a suicide. But, she did deal with depression, so I don’t want to add to conspiracy theories. But, reading the book, knowing that Richard Feynman was the young dude playing the drums / bongos. Hearing some of Feynman’s antics at Los Alamos, etc. He also wrote a good book called something like; “My view from below,” as he was still very young in those days, and wasn’t as renowned as he would later become.
Anyway, I agree about the dialogue/ sound-mixing. Even with a great score, there are parts where I think to myself, “add subtitles!”
Anyway, I loved it. But, I can absolutely see how someone could find the three hour run time torturous…especially if someone goes in just hoping for some cool music / action sequences. That’s not this movie. But, I’m old, and I quite loved the film.
Very glad u enjoyed this film. Definitely thinking of giving it a second chance but idk when that will be. I’m just happy that films like this are getting attention and don’t need to be attached to an existing IP or franchise to get people talking. Just a director who knows his stuff
Nolan movies are definetely an acquired taste, the exposition problem is an issue you have to live with. But i still love his movies regardless because of the concepts that he tackles which other filmmakers are too afraid to take on because they also dk how to do the exposition. He feels like he's adapting full books into movie form and keeping the entire lore, thats why people get really invested in his movies. I cant defend Tenet i feel like he went too far with that one but i will die defending every other Nolan movie. There's a reason he's considered one of the greatest directors of our time.
As a Nolan fan, you make some excellent points. I think for me I can accept the way his stories are told because I know what I’m getting into with his films. I would be disappointed if every film was like that, but I’m okay with his style, if not only because it stands out
YES, if there’s one thing I’d give Nolan credit for is that he’s very creative and ambitious. I very much respect that
Memento was his best. The Prestige next.
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oppenheimer cleared both
@@hashly8521 what’s ur fav?
@@fumbuswumbus memento rn because i could watch it anywhere in hd, plus i have good memories with that film
but i am a tenetchad too occasionally, also liked insomnia
Oppenheimer feels confusing for the sake of being confusing. The nonlinear structure was a bad choice.
I wouldn’t say confusing but very overwhelming. I like the nonlinear structure fine I guess but it wasn’t my favorite use of it
it wasnt even confusing at all what are you on about
@@NotFlame among other things, there were times where it was unclear where in the timeline scenes were taking place.
@@wtfschmucknah bro. Just say u didn't understand instead of saying movie was confusing.
@@Megh_Vachhani lol, what do you mean I didn't get it? The story is very straightforward. There's nothing to unwind after the film other than your own thoughts on the moral dilemmas presented. However, the use of nonlinear story structure was unnecessary and, at times, difficult to follow. There was no need to jump around in the timeline other than a "twist" that didn't add anything, and, in my opinion, distracted from the philosophical and ethical questions presented.
It felt like he created an A. I. EDIT SOFTWARE LOL.
Honestly, I felt the same way. I was incredibly bored and had to stop watching halfway and continue at a later time. Despite the large cast, I failed to establish any connection with the characters. I couldn't even recall most of their names, and the storyline held no interest for me. Overall, it was a disappointing and a boring experience.
Did you actually finish it because I fell asleep and never went back to it and never will. So so so so so boring.
I think the reason you didn’t connect with other characters is because the movie is portrayed as a first person point of view. Nolan wrote the script in the first person as Oppenheimer. Therefore you do not go on side quests with other characters that would allow you to connect with them more.
Oh boy... Nolan is a terrible Director, terrible... i could point out here so so many flaws in The Dark Knight but doesn't matter, people would never admit that anyways. Nolan is a magician, playing tricks in everyone.
Inception is terrible, insomnia is boring and cliche, oppenheimer is too long and dialogue mostly, they didnt even show the real bombing...
Then how come the best directors in the industry have said he’s a great director? I’m not saying he’s perfect because he isn’t. But you not liking his style of movie doesn’t make him a terrible director.
@matthewg11678 for me It is. Its not about style, is about issues. His direction is full of issues and the most common is not finishing crucial situations that needs to be finished in a scene. As an example, Batman saves Rachel by jumping from the building and catching her, right? Scene finished. No, the Joker is still there upstairs full of prisoners terrorizing that party. What happened? How that situation was solved? Doesn't matter, the movie just moves on and forgets about It as we suppose to do. That my friend isn't a style of direction, that is a pure direction mistake. That is It.
I absolutely love his movies, but I respect your takes on his movies. Great video
a 'chore' exactly. It's not escapism, his films are like a big IQ test.
It think Nolan thought... Yeah. We pick something and Make it Pretentious. Watched Interstellar 2 Days ago... and the Movie goes NOWHERE. It is Inflated AIR.
I thought we were building a rice cooker.
Well, you're technically right.
The guy opened the door for ( how to make a physically weak Batman) for crying out loud.. He is batman master of hand to hand combat
Nolan's sounds is actually a very common criticism, and he did come out and explain it, sound mixing for all his movies are tailored for imax and dolby atmos theatres which have more outputs than 7.1 and 5.1 sound systems. The downmixing for home entertainment is where the issue arises. Thats why for oppenheimer, nolan worked on a separate version of the movie where the sound has been custom made for TVs smaller screens.
Nolans movies look great. But they generally are too clever for their own good. They can also be highly indulgent. But to Oppenheimer. It was a good - very good movie for a couple of hours. Tacking on an hour extra for an extra plot was poor film making in my mind. If Nolans name was not attached to this movie, it would be an obscure side feature in the cineplex... that would be relatively unnoticed.
There were so many times were I watched his films and I’m like “dude I get it ur smart”. But he’s always very creative and has a way of shaking things up. So I appreciate that
This video is basically:
I love Christopher Nolan, Can't stand the guy.
exposition is Nolan's worst problem
I tried watching Oppenheimer but as I was at home and not in the cinema I did fall asleep. Never went back to finish it off because I simply didn't care and still don't. Haven't seen the pink film either.
Love that you admit as HxH fans that uses lot of exposition lol.
I don't think exposition is the problem. More of how to make those exposition interesting and not making it feel that the character is currently becoming a tool moutpiece only for writers to infodump.
HxH kinda avoids it with narrators but come at the cost of taking an entire page filled with text either due to shonen page restriction, his skill, or his backpain.
About Nolan, I do agree, he could've been less on the nose but I still enjoy it. Oppie's character truly feels compelling for me. Hencr why, I'm ok with that style.
I agree with you completely
Ayyy thanks man
I couldn't disagree more but it's your opinion. Still great video
Ayyy thanks man, opinions of any kind always welcome
100% with you. Thank you!
how could you not like oppy heimy 🥺
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Read the book the film was based on American Prometheus
Tbh I should read more books in general. U and someone else recommended this book. Good choice 👍
I fell asleep during Oppenheimer with a mouthful of popcorn. Nice video.
Here's a like before I even watch the video. Nolan is a stupid person's idea of a smart guy.
Wow….well thanks for the like 😀
I totally agree with the music. It always is there, almost everytime. Sometimes I don't understand the dialogs because of the permanent penetrating music. I really hate it! In Oppenheimer it was over the top too much so I stopped at some point because it made me really aggressive...
Inception and Tenet are average movies. Actually, Tenet was below average. Disastrous even. Inception was a snoozefest for me. And yes, his constant use of the score is annoying af.
tenet to me was like inception but worse 😭😭😭😭. I like inception but tenet is just really not it for me
Exactly. The best way to describe it. He makes his entire film like a movie trailer and it is the sound most of all that takes me completely out of his films. It’s too present. The creative decisions are too conscious and apparent .
This movie was so far up it's own ass I can't even begin to enjoy it. It would have been a more interesting story if he had told it CHRONOLOGICALLY for ONCE! Oh, that meeting with the communist club in college came back to haunt him, oh shit! This was about a team of people that learned how to harness the power of the atom and there wasn't ever a single moment of "That's it! We figured it out!". The female characters were awful, per usual with Nolan. I was begging for it to be over with 50 minutes left.
Maybe there wasn’t a moment of “That’s it’s we figured it out” in the movie because that’s not how it actually happened. I also think you miss the point of how they thought back then. Yes they wanted to figure out how to make a bomb, but they weren’t exactly happy when they found out they did, they were greatly scared. So yes the movie didn’t have the oh shit we did it moment, and if it did it would look so out of place.
my girlfriend said Interstellar is her fav movie OAT and i ask her about the movie and plot and she is pointless😂😂😂😂
if u still belch out 30 euros for modern films theres no hope for u
I only liked instasteller. The rest did not enjoy
thought the batman comment was a but dumb considering pretty much everyone knows harvey dent is two face?
I meant more so within the context of the movie. Like yeah it’s common knowledge to ppl that Harvey dent is two face but the movie still makes it kind of on the nose. More so with the theme
Dudee same nice to see someone else feels the same way about his movies never understood why people love them and just wrote it off as me not being the target demographic for them the best i can describe them are they feel like marvel movies and yeah absolutely for me his movies lack substance and ofc he sucks at female characters its always outdated stereotypical tropes with them and Oppenheimer i liked some visual aspects of it but the movie was disappointing as i'm interested in the source material and the movie went a different direction than i thought like character exploration would have been amazing for this movie with the moral ambiguity of it all but alas and so much goddamn exposition its really not my cup of tea none of his movies are and yeah barbie was so good ryt
Glad to u see shared a similar sentiment, I think personally his movies have substance it’s just they tend to feel very overblown sometimes. Also Barbie was epic
That was fascinating. Well done. Have you seen the footage of Nolan tring to explain memento?Nolan works like a true modernist: mystify your audience, by any means possible, and they will go out thinking you are a genius (even though in reality you are a pretentious fraud). In the future, Nolan's movies will be played at comedy festivals. 'Open-hymen' has been rightly criticized, as being an illusory sex-ography, rather than a piece of history. 'Dark Knight' is an absolute embarrassment: Ledger absolutely overcooks his role; we have Bale's ridiculous Batman voice, and Caine's cringe-inducing sobs - a spectacle of infantile garbage.
I really liked Oppenheimer but being honest it was pretty hard to understand. Maybe just me idk
Oppenheimer was better in epic rap battles of history
I appreciate your perspective, but I believe what you are highlighting is an issue with the new generations. They tend to demand increasingly simplified content, making a complex film like Christopher Nolan's appear too intricate for their taste. In a world where every generation seeks simplicity, this movie now resembles a philosophical book from 200 years ago. Personally, I enjoyed it greatly, as it's the kind of film that you can watch multiple times and still find enjoyment. Thankfully, we have such films, which stand in contrast to woke propaganda or superficial superhero movies.
I agree, I’m really happy movies like Oppenheimer are getting some love cus Nolan’s movies are very creative and they challenge u at the end of the day. I really happy a movie didn’t need to be attached to a pre existing IP or franchise to be popular. People care about history which is good
Nolan should just stick to directing and not dwell with scripts. Same for Zack Snyder, these two are good at film making but are crappy storytellers.
I think it's clear that a lot of people like nolan's movies, you not liking his writing shouldn't mean that should stop.
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It's obvious that it's, like, my opinion duuude.
I think he can tell go stories just dialogue has always been my issue
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So you didn't feel like Inception was over-complicated and in the end, to just tell you nothing ? It was like a poor man's version of Matrix.
@@En_theo I think it was pretty complicated yeh, but ig it’s usually the dialogue that kind of over complicates things. Like so much of the movie is explaining what’s happening but I still feel lost. Even Oppenheimer as very dense dialogue when the story can be broken down as “man makes bomb and feels he’s doomed the world”. That being said the story of inception was always quite interesting
It was boring for me as well, we didn't see almost any emotions, and in such movie should be.
Why so serious!
I agree totally about the music!!!
honestly, as a student of physics the movie couldn't have been more straight forward. it was beautifully constructed and the music was immaculate. I mean if you aren't a huge fan of courtroom dramas the end part might be a bit of a stretch to you(which in my case it kinda was). The movie wasn't just about the Manhattan project, it was about the life, the inner demons, and the internal struggle of the scientist after the aftermath of the bombing. so, in my opinion it was pretty straight forward and great. but I do respect your point of view.
Yeh fs, I said in the video that I most likely don’t have the best understanding of Oppenheimer and that it simply wasn’t for me. The movie was not complicated but just very dense and a little overwhelming for me who isnt the smartest. But overall story is pretty easy to explain “Oppenheimer makes the bomb and now feels he has doomed the world”. Very much an oversimplification on my part but u can break it down kinda like that. I’m really glad u enjoyed it and I do think a lot of work when into Oppenheimer as a character which I very much appreciate
Interesting! Different strokes for different folks eh.
I'm not a physics student, molecular bio. But I found the movie didn't really scratch my itch on the science side of it, giving more of a look in at the trails and tribulations of building the bomb and the science side of it. It really was more of a focus on the trial drama especially for the second half, and I started to tune out. And we were supposed to just know from the outset 'this guy is amazing'. But I didn't feel like the movie did a lot to show why or have you warm to the characters. I found the dialogue a bit pretentious too - not everything a character says needs to be a whitty quip - makes it feel false.
It did make me want to go away and read more on the history of it all though. I understand the impact and horror of the bomb on the japanese was deliberate as it was through opps lens, but did feel a bit uneasy about that
also I find it a bit hard to explain why exactly - but I found the intimacy scenes really weird and kind of problematic.
It was about a sick NAZI doing awful ungodly manifestations. Trying to shine light on " commies " selfish desires. When a women knows your married and have kids but yet still want him. ( all while he's creating the worse WMD bomb ever. And the guy gets rewarded. ( aww he had demons yet still went thru his evil commie way )
@micah1754 We all did lol it once again showed his nazi selfish sociopathic personality disorder.
For me , while not being my favorite Nolan movie(my favorite is interstellar), Oppenheimer is his best movie to date on paper. I didnt feel the lenght of the movie at all and was heavily invested in the events that it talked about and how unlike his other movies, this is truly a movie focused on one character. This is not a movie about trinity, its about oppenheimer, and that difference is very important because most other filmmakers would lose that distinguishing factor. The ensemble is brilliant, Cillian Murphy and RDJ are gonna get oscars, the editing, the score, the cinematography, and above those THE WRITING are magnificent. Ive read the book thats its based on now and trust me the adaptation is perfect, like it deserves the best adapted screenplay oscar. Also this movie tackles every angle about oppenheimer that everyone thinks of, did he do it out of a moral sense, did he do it out of patriotism, did he do it out of selfishness to make himself important, and why he came to be against his most important creation. Its Nolan's most nuanced screenplay yet, we havent had something like this since the prestige. For me it was in my top 3 movies of the year, but i keep flipping between it and spiderman:ATSV for number 1.
I totally disagreed, and I don't wanna see Oppenheimer too except Japanese people. I'm not a fan of Christopher Nolan, and Cillian Murphy doesn't look exceptional at all. I wish critics must have said it shouldn't outgross Barbie.
I prefer Barbie personally, however Oppenheimer was still a very well made movie..it just wasn’t for me. I hope you’ll give it a shot tho
@@fumbuswumbus I didn't like Oppenheimer.
@@sonicsez-l3i ohhh it said I don’t wanna see Oppenheimer so I misunderstood. My bad
Nolan makes terrible movies, not complicated and over intelligent just terrible movies and what's up with the dialog even when you can hear it, which at most of the time you can't. That's not great filmmaking, lazy and lame.
Nolan feels like Michael Bay but somehow more bland
Thanks you put my problem with Nolan so well❤
I feel if oppenheimer was directed by a director like damien chazelle or denis villenueve. It could have been more better. Nolan is a good director and most influenial. But this time it didnt work. Well this will offend casual nolan fanboys .
I’m a Nolan fan and see no reason to take offense to your statement because it’s a matter of personal preference in cinema. It may not have worked for you which is valid and I do agree there are a lot of things I would change about the movie. I do however think that Nolan was the best to direct this movie because he wanted to emphasize the gravity of this scientific discovery and portray it as a documentary in the first person. Yes Damien and Denis could’ve done a great job, I just don’t see them being able to do so as well as Nolan. Regardless that is just my opinion.
@matthewg11678 Thats a good take, I agree. With the announcement of odyssey lets see how nolan portrays fantasy and mythical genre , which is different from what he does !
prehaps at the start I was a nolan fanboy, but the more movies and media Ive seen, the more I realise there can be alot more soul and identity to the characters in his films. His concepts are only ever as interesting as a main character driver/motivation to steer the narrative. Inception was great only becuase the dream element had a personal stake to the main character; Interstellar was great as the personal stake (though sloppily) linked into the main concept. Oppenheimer while really artistic and grand; didnt make me feel any personal stakes/ regret/ moral dilemma albiet ONE or two scenes (a detachment to the horrors of the atomic bomb didnt help and a side-track to the court room drama felt random.) Prehaps the trailer did decieve us into just showcasing the manhattan project as the forefront of the film but the first and second acts did feel highly irrelevant to me. Tenet was the worst offender of this trope by completely detaching any personal stake and even violating its own rules.
I just saw Dune 2 and felt how much more was conveyed with little words and yet the struggle and conflict was apparent. Prehaps less is more.
Only Oppenheimer sucks.
@@quadaerospacespacecat8061 oppenheimer is a masterpiece!
Between 7:00 - 13:00 why putting this anoying music and criticizing Nolan for doing the same ? Loud music is annoying, always.
Movie had too much political bickering,though acting was good .
Robert Downey Jr ate 👌👌
@@fumbuswumbus he will win for sure.
Instead of clickbait videos try making some sense and speaking something that holds
I hate Christopher Nolan as well, he’s a terrible director. TDK trilogy is god awful
What movies do you think are better than the ones from Nolan? I’m not trying to throw a jab or be disrespectful, I’m just curious to see what movies you prefer.
Dopamine addict spotted
I didn't like it either, just not for me, found it quite boring.
Christopher Nolan is the most overrated director of all time
I hate Nolan so much. His movies are mostly 💩
What are some of your favorite movies? Movies you would say are better than his. I’m not trying to throw a jab or be disrespectful I’m just curious to what movies you prefer.
@matthewg11678 Well, I start with my favorite (truly) filmmakers:
John Carpenter, Agnès Varda, Andrei Tarkovski, Brian DePalma, Kelly Reichardt, David Lynch, Céline Sciamma, Ingmar Bergman, Pedro Almodóvar, Hitchcock, Aki Kaurismäki, Jodorowsky, David Cronenberg, P.T. Anderson, George Romero, Ana Carolina, Eduardo Courinho to name the main ones.
And some of my favorite films that are not by them in addition: The red shoes, Quo vadis Aida, The phantom carriage, TAR, Drive my car, Suspiria 2018, Arrival, The witch, Before trilogy, A matter of life and death, The cabinet of Dr Caligari, 8 1/2, The 3rd man, La jetee, All that jazz, Martyrs, Phoenix, Being John Malkovich, various with Buster Keaton and so on.
By the way I have watched every movie by Nolan and I only enjoy Inception and Memento in some degree.
Overrated talentless director
try michael bay then
Congratulations on a good clickbait title but the content was too thin, didn't last past 3:00
This makes me not want to watch it 😅
You probably should, It's pretty interesting and worthy of viewing. But its definitely not like a turn ur brain off type movie
@@fumbuswumbus I might, I’m just tired of all these new movies disappointing 🤦🏻♀️
@@Lana-hl3tg I feel that, I don’t think this will but it depends on what ur looking for. U always got Barbie tho that was really good imo
Makes me wish I didn't watch it.
@@Lana-hl3tgIt's not disappointing, this RUclipsr is just trying to make content.
The worst takes ever made about cinema, nolan and his films. 1/10 “too much water.”
“It has a little something for everyone”
Tell me you're American without telling me your American.
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I am not American and Oppenheimer was an absolute boring mess and really disappointing and Nolan ruined it because he’s an overrated film maker. Everything said on this vid is on spot!
And ah I forgot to mention how stupid and ignorant your comment is to bring his nationality into this!
Quentin Tarantino was right this is a wrost cinama era where people criticise masterpiece like Oppenheimer and appreciated grabage movie
Which garbage movie?
@@fumbuswumbus I don't have to tell you if you watch modern flims you understand
@@animeking1853 but I do bestie 🥺
Oppeneheimer is no masterpiece! It's garbage!
@@ricomajestic Nope, it's a masterpiece!
I don't care, but carry on.
What even is the point of your channel tho, you change topics nearly every video