Ace Analyst: Of Skyros & Alicorns

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @DragonianSheep
    @DragonianSheep 6 месяцев назад +65

    What gives me a bad feeling about all this is that the tapestry only shows "pseudoalicorns" like Sunny

    • @Bird-wz7nx
      @Bird-wz7nx 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@ronaldpagar6513Golden wings and horns, meaning that they're only part-time alicorns

  • @somerandomdude7785
    @somerandomdude7785 6 месяцев назад +52

    Can you imagine Skyros being highly technologically advanced, like an alien civilization?

    • @0hvist
      @0hvist 6 месяцев назад +3

      I'd feel it would be a breath of fresh air for _MLP_ if the Alicorns aren't just a reskin of the other Three Tribes from a cultural sense; instead of just having the Alicorns being just "a Pegasus with a Horn" or "a Unicorn with Wings", the Alicorns or _"Alikrolmn"_ in their tongue are completely alien in-appearance to build into the image of the other Three Tribes long ago having viewed them as Monsters to kill: an extra pair of eyes, multiple-jointed wings, carnivorous teeth, three horns on their heads, or even a set of Centaur-like arms: make the Alicorns seem more like *Biblical* Angels instead of Angelic Angels. That the Alicorn Tribe is neither a Unicorn Kingdom or a group of Pegasus Warriors or an association of Earth Pony Farmers; but distinctly an actual Tribal Society where the Alicorns are all split into a number of smaller Clans with their own beliefs and customs that are mainly rooted in Shamanism and a prevalent Hunter Culture. And that instead of these Alicorns being seen as a greater good to look up to; they are actually intolerant towards the other Three Tribes because of bad blood in the distant and ancient past: in a time where The Three Tribes had actually *HUNTED* The Alicorns by viewing their tribe as Monsters to kill either to seek Glory (Pegasus), gain Immortality (Unicorns), or just for the sake of Blood Purity (Earth Ponies); and that because of this the Alicorn Tribe developed in complete seclusion of the other Three Tribes and view the usage of Magic to fight their opponents as a weakness, instead placing value in ones' own Martial Talents and Ability to decide their battles through the usage of physical weapons like Spears, Bows, Daggers, Axes, Swords, Hammers, etc.

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +3

      And I really hope they don’t pull a Griffinstone because Twi said how great and ancient the griffins were, but when we were actually shown them The whole town was “a total dump” as quoted from pinkie

    • @ulv6760
      @ulv6760 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mirthful_Panda The screenwriters in G4 had a strange tendency to contradict popular fan theories, shatter expectations and do the opposite of what was expected, Griffonstone was not the only example. Sometimes it seems that American writers want to be unpredictable to the point of absurdity, even at the expense of their own works.

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад

      @@ulv6760 yeah I remember in Silver Quills video apparently before Daring Don’t aired there was a popular fan theory that Twilight’s mom Twilight Velvet was the author of the Daring Do books since the idea was reinforced in the IDW comics that Velvet won an award for it again BEFORE Daring Don’t aired don’t believe me here’s his video on that episode
      ruclips.net/video/0Z5nron5xPg/видео.htmlsi=hnNNCbH1JMS_WARd

    • @simonflores1047
      @simonflores1047 6 месяцев назад

      But Griffinstones trashiness was to service the story… how everyone was so obsessed with the treasure being the solution they couldn’t see the problems right in front of them.

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 6 месяцев назад +14

    "Sunny, the last alicornbender" would be a good meme

  • @autumbreeze1129
    @autumbreeze1129 6 месяцев назад +25

    And then the latest episode opened a whole new can off WTF with the revelation of Pony Sea Ponies instead of Hippogriff Sea Ponies, the Nova charm giving Izzy a Rainbow Form like the Mane 6, the charm now splitting into 6 separate pieces...
    UGH, as if the already established lore contradictions weren't confusing enough as they are!

    • @jakebosh3
      @jakebosh3 6 месяцев назад +2

      The special didn't contradict anything though

    • @somerandomdude7785
      @somerandomdude7785 6 месяцев назад +5

      I feel like MLP G5 needs to be written by World of Warcraft writers.

  • @Mirthful_Panda
    @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +12

    2:42 FIRSTLY I can’t wait for this adventure to Skyros and SECONDLY the first option sounds like the Lost Treasure of Griffinstone to me think about it back in Season 5 Twilight says to Dashie and Pinkie how great and ancient the Griffins are, but when both of them get there it turns out to be “a total dump” as quoted from Pinkie with Gilda and the rest of the Griffins (aside from Gabby) actually shown to being greedy….like the dragons now I think about it….

  • @shane5326
    @shane5326 6 месяцев назад +9

    I wouldn't be surprised how the three races are gonna react if there is an alicorn civilization. You saw how they all reacted when there were magical mishaps and dragons. Sad to see ponies haven't changed from their usual survival routine of running away from things.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 6 месяцев назад +15

    Wonder if skyros will be like mt Olympus.

  • @dragoncross42
    @dragoncross42 6 месяцев назад +16

    I can't wait to explore and journey to Skyros with the G5 crew, this plot has a lot of interesting stuff that can really impact the story in a big way. I do hope we see one of are G4 Alicorns in Skyros. I hope you make a video on the new Tell your Tale special that just dropped and on the secret room Misty fond in the Brighthouse.

  • @Mirthful_Panda
    @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +6

    I’m assuming they just wanted to lay some things out before they got into the lore heavy stuff

  • @sweetdreams1028
    @sweetdreams1028 6 месяцев назад +10

    I understand that Hasbro doesn’t have that much access to the ladder five seasons of G4, but could they’ve not completely contradict what was established in the season six premiere? And for those of you who say “But they said that they’ve never seen an Alicorn born IN Equestria.” Why would it be so shocking to the sisters if they supposedly were born Alicorns into Alicorn parents too? How is that any different from Cadence and Flurry Heart? But if you wanna ignore that part, that still doesn’t take away the major issue that Skyros apparently was around all this time and was never mentioned. I could by that it was a thing that was eventually lost to time, but you’re telling me it always existed?! Why didn’t Celestia tell Luna to go there instead of the Hypoogriffs in the 2017 movie? Why are Celestia, Luna, and Opaline the only ones who came to Equestria? As you said, it just raises too many questions and feels like G5 is trying too hard to look cool by introducing something completely out of the blue.

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sp about the first part Is it because of legal issues I thought that was just a theory or speculation?

    • @sonicspeedproductions2.04
      @sonicspeedproductions2.04 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think Skyros is not in Equestria

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад

      @@sonicspeedproductions2.04 that’s true and honestly, “out of the blue”? They never addressed in G4 about where Celestia and Luna came from either and no I’m not counting the comics since those are non-canon

    • @sweetdreams1028
      @sweetdreams1028 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@sonicspeedproductions2.04 I’m not saying it isn’t. I’m just saying that it shouldn’t exist with how surprised the royal sisters were with Flurry Heart being born an Alicorn because again, if Celestia and Luna were born Alicorns into Alicorn parents, how’s that any different from Cadence and Flurry Heart? Because it happened in Equestria? What difference does that make?

  • @danayar3925
    @danayar3925 6 месяцев назад +7

    Is there going to be a point in Tell Your Tale where Sunny earns her horn and wings permanently?

    • @sonicspeedproductions2.04
      @sonicspeedproductions2.04 6 месяцев назад

      If she does she'll just be another Twilight and won't see her father again

    • @somerandomdude7785
      @somerandomdude7785 6 месяцев назад

      @@sonicspeedproductions2.04 See her father? But he is long dead.

    • @javierfebronio8907
      @javierfebronio8907 6 месяцев назад

      I assumed that was the case after watching "Alicorn Issues", but later episodes proved me wrong 🤦‍♂

  • @ulv6760
    @ulv6760 6 месяцев назад +6

    Skyros is special, the first hint of an alicorn civilization was with "The Journal of the Two Sisters" published in 2014, which revealed that the two royal sisters - Celestia and Luna - had come to Equestria from somewhere else. Although this source has been contradicted by recent lore, particularly regarding the founders of Equestria and the Tree of Harmony, the single information about an alicorn civilization has not been dumped. As long as the backstory of the two royal sisters remained unknown, this possibility was there - until 2023, when it was revealed that they came from a place called Skyros. Which was the home of Opaline, who is the same age as Celestia and Luna.
    We know that Star Swirl the Bearded had been given the responsibility of raising the two alicorn fillies and teaching them magic while preparing them for the thrones as the princesses of Equestria. According to Opaline, these fillies were special - possibly because they had received their cutie marks that allow them to manipulate celestial bodies - so why did the alicorns choose to make Star Swirl the fillies' foster father so that they could rule a new realm that in their eyes was newly formed? This cannot be explained as anything other than a political gesture in its own interests, where Equestria wants symbols of power who could be seated in the seat of power to hold the new realm together. The ponies' culture at the time was feudal, and it was still loosely organized when the Pillars of Old Equestria was created. The members of the Pillars revealed that they came from different countries with different cultural backgrounds.
    When the Pillars disappeared in their battle against the Shadow Pony, Celestia and Luna had become youngsters who then had to fend for themselves as the reigning princesses of Equestria. It's possible that Tirek was defeated before the Pillar's disappearance, but the princesses had to contend with other threats, with Discord being the biggest. When Discord invaded Equestria, this was his first step in making the world his playground. The two royal sisters had to fight Discord, and we don't know how long this lasted. The IDW comics suggest an international coalition against Discord, which was drawn into a major conflict in the face of cunabulans who wanted control of the Tree of Harmony. This may have broken the known world and resulted in isolation between Equestria and the rest of the world.
    After Discord was defeated, Celestia and Luna had to fight Sombra and later each other - ending with only a lone alicorn left. Celestia didn't know where Skyros was, and in all the time after Discord attacked, the alicorns and Skyros had been absent. If Skyros had sent their most potential alicorns to a realm that they might have claimed supremacy over, it's a pretty good question why they had been absent when Equestria was in its darkest hour, as if they had disappeared. It doesn't look like a realm that gave away its strongest members to another realm it had subjugated, it should have reacted then. Since then they had been absent for a very long time, and the world was in stagnation until Twilight Sparkle's time.
    There are many indications that Twilight Sparkle had ruled for a long time and had an "empire" under her according to Opaline. According to the Discord Arc in the IDW comics which is unfortunately now non-canon, Opaline had attacked in secret just after G4 ended. This would lead to the creation of the Unity Crystals. In the MYM finale, we learned from Spike that there could be two separate attacks, the first reminiscent of what the comics depicted, and the second when Opaline had stolen the dragons' magic and become too strong. We don't know how Twilight defeated Opaline, but we now know that Opaline was able to escape, so desperate measures that Spike calls "the plan" had become a necessity. This was a very turbulent time that may have affected the entire world, and that Skyros could not ignore, even though Opaline came from their home.
    We don't know how Spike learned about Skyros, but it appears that he did not hold these alicorns in high regard, possibly because Twilight may have been forced to pay a high price. When the magic later disappeared - it is heavily implied that it is because "the guardians" had simply forgotten to put the crystals together and went their separate ways - (quite childish, if you ask me!) - this should concern Skyros. Although there are signs that the alicorn magic is not affected, Opaline maintaining her immortality, the disappearance of pony magic should have caused great concern, the alicorns are also ponies.
    Skyros hadn't given a signal in maybe two thousand years ever since Discord invaded Equestria. Where were the alicorns all that time? Maybe they stayed away as seen with the princess ponies in G1 to allow the other ponies to live in peace in good times and bad. Still, this could not explain why they were absent when Equestria - and the rest of the world - experienced disasters. Even when one of these disasters came from their own homes.

  • @OmegaFox09
    @OmegaFox09 6 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe alicorns can’t interfere with the “world below”. Imagine if a whole bunch of alicorns just came out of blue and stopped Opaline.

  • @BobHershey
    @BobHershey 2 месяца назад

    Sadly, if "The Starscout Code" is any indication this whole alicorn tapestry will never be mentioned again in any future episode.

  • @0hvist
    @0hvist 2 месяца назад

    Option 3: Skyros turns out to be a false lead entirely, a dark period of Pre-Equestria when Alicorns weren't seen as Divine, but as Monsters to kill and butcher any Alicorns they could get their hooves on for whatever reason: with a name like Skyros indicating that it was created by the Pegasi, likely as a hunting ground for them to take untrained Alicorns and hunt them for sport and glory; at least until the arrival of Gusty the Great who would eradicate the hunters and send the Alicorns off to safety leaving behind tattered ruins of Skyros which overtime would have slowly evolved due to cultural drift until the original identity is long faded into myth.

  • @davidharrington4828
    @davidharrington4828 6 месяцев назад +2

    Does he know about the new special episode of tell your tail that dropped lately?

  • @singularity288
    @singularity288 6 месяцев назад +1

    Based off of what we do know from the series continue also be possible that Skyrim isn't in Equestria kind of like the human world is in a different reality Amazon thing I can think of to compare it to is Camelot from King Arthur's legend where is technically in the mortal world in the fact that at that time people could go there it was there but is also technically in a different reality the fairy world at least if I'm not getting my mythologies mixed up I could be wrong

  • @ManaAdvent
    @ManaAdvent 6 месяцев назад +5

    G5 had dropped the ball too many times for me to care about its lore since they already mucked up with many inconsistencies with G4 and even within its own continuity.

  • @opalkarli
    @opalkarli 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can we talk about how in Tirek's debut, the alicorns all transfer their magic to Twilight, to hide it from Tirek, as he didn't know she existed yet, but Tirek is thousands of years old, wouldn't he have also not known Cadance? In a flashback, she's a few years older than Twilight, so Tirek had no way of knowing of her either, right?

    • @somerandomdude7785
      @somerandomdude7785 6 месяцев назад

      Cadance wasn't born when Celestia and Luna imprisoned Tirek in Tartarus.

    • @opalkarli
      @opalkarli 6 месяцев назад

      @@somerandomdude7785 yea, so why did they give their magic to twilight because tirek didn’t know her, even if he wouldn’t have known cadence either

  • @SilverSpoonRiche
    @SilverSpoonRiche 6 месяцев назад +2

    Aw man, every episode of TYT has been confusing and insulting ever since they spoiled the ending of MYM. Even Misty I'm losing interest in. And again, SHE KEPT THIS SH!T (slams desk with hooves) FROM SUNNY! (slams desk again) the Last Alicorn and Misty kept the secret of Skyros to herself and made Sunny discover it for herself! Bucking OOPS?
    and now there's a 22min special and I don't wana watch it! >_

    • @jordantrainor2617
      @jordantrainor2617 6 месяцев назад +1

      You should check out the first special, because it fixes most of the issues certain MLP fans have been vocally complaining about in TYT. Even those who are normally critical toward G5 as a whole have been praising the special.

  • @jakubtrapp3509
    @jakubtrapp3509 6 месяцев назад

    i had an idea
    just listen to this
    'sunny and the squad locate and go to skyros and see it is in ruins and has 4 statues representing celestia , loona ,caydance and twiligth
    they recognise twiligth and try to figure out how did this place fall to ruin if the people of skyros khew about these 4 powerfull alicorns
    lets say that izzy tries to look for a place for them to chill out and think about everything intil she sees a dungeon door
    when the rest comes and asks wth was hapening around here they hear weird noises from the doors so they open them up trying to figure out wth that was
    and then weird beings un khown to equestria ever beak out all laugthing maniaclly and then 2 leading creatures show up a demon of pure terror and GROGAR
    grogar after re awakening sayes something like "i khew this stupid alicorn couldnt keep us in this stupid prison forever after all she was barelly alive after she went and fougth me"
    explaining how did twiligth lose to opaline it was beacause grogar left her on 1hp and then it would make sense that opaline would have it easier to win if twiligth was still recovering
    then grogar sends his army of demons and his general to cause chaos on equastria to regain controll over it making him able to have all the power in both equwstria and skyros'

  • @kasiavalies8241
    @kasiavalies8241 6 месяцев назад

    Maybe skyross wants to stay hidden because it has amazing strong magic.

  • @SilverSpoonRiche
    @SilverSpoonRiche 6 месяцев назад +7

    So hold up, Opaline told MISTY about Skyros and she didn't tell bucking Sunny? She didn't tell the ONE other Alicorn-ish-thing that she is not the last of her kind after Opaline was tentacle hentai'd to de@th by a tree that then vanished without a trace? Girl has a habit of keeping vital information to herself. /)_-

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +2

      That’s…. A good point actually….

    • @DragonianSheep
      @DragonianSheep 6 месяцев назад +5

      Well, they never asked her, Sunny just had this need appear because of her dream because before Sunny had no motivation to investigate anything in general.

    • @Mirthful_Panda
      @Mirthful_Panda 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@DragonianSheep and who knows maybe Misty will tell her in a later episode

    • @SilverSpoonRiche
      @SilverSpoonRiche 6 месяцев назад

      @@DragonianSheep OKAY fair enough, but her keeping Opaline a secret after joining Sunny's crew absolutely made no sense and they never realized she kept that information from them.

    • @SilverSpoonRiche
      @SilverSpoonRiche 6 месяцев назад

      @@Mirthful_Panda Once a Spy always a spy? LOL

  • @javierfebronio8907
    @javierfebronio8907 6 месяцев назад +1

    I found it very shallow that Sunny suddenly cares about what she is, especially since she's not a REAL Alicorn. Like, does she really need some validation from a tapestry?? 🤦‍♂
    (Although, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some twist that Sunny's mother is an Alicorn)
    Considering how the 1st special disappointed me and felt rushed, I doubt this arc will have a satisfying payoff

  • @PrincessSapphireSpirit24
    @PrincessSapphireSpirit24 6 месяцев назад

    I know it sounds dumb and VERY UNLIKELY...but..hear me out lol
    What if Twilight moved to Skyros after the situation with opaline recking her rein of harmony and magic gone.
    Alicorns seemingly have long life spans. As for the crystal enpire I think that because the crystal heart is a magical relic that it should be fine. They just isolated themselves from the outside world. Or an alternate darker theory the Crystal heart ran out of magic the enpire got wrecked by the northern weather and that's how we ended up with starlight ridge. Maybe. Who knows so many questions we all want awmsers to.

  • @MarioMario-vn3fx
    @MarioMario-vn3fx 6 месяцев назад

    Why didn't Skyros do anything when magic returned or Opaline was causing havoc? Simple, Equestria is "over there". and "over there" needs to deal with it's own issues.

  • @Lunar_sunshine
    @Lunar_sunshine 6 месяцев назад

    Dreeze is currently making a video on this. How could you steal her idea?

  • @randombadthings-kt5in
    @randombadthings-kt5in 5 месяцев назад

    what if twilight and people fled there?

  • @allyytallytb929
    @allyytallytb929 5 месяцев назад

    The alicorns in skyros didn’t help in g4 so why would they help now.

  • @duskyfordays7657
    @duskyfordays7657 6 месяцев назад

    LOREEEEEEEE

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis 6 месяцев назад +4

    This can't mean that Celestia and Luna are dead. can it? I sure hope not. Then again, I don't consider this series canon to G4 anyway.

  • @greenstarlover1
    @greenstarlover1 6 месяцев назад

    Maybe the alicorn society are jsut snobbish pricks maybe? Couldn't bother checking what happening down below.

  • @Pyro7693
    @Pyro7693 6 месяцев назад

    I can't believe it. G5 is finally not sucking? Maybe the writers of TYT are picking up the ball where MYM's writers dropped it.

    • @jordantrainor2617
      @jordantrainor2617 6 месяцев назад +2

      TYT has been decent for a while, even before Season 2 started. And considering that it's going to be the main G5 show from now on, it makes sense that they would pick up where MYM left off.

    • @СержГарелов-б8ю
      @СержГарелов-б8ю 6 месяцев назад

      @@jordantrainor2617 i want my little pony generation 6
      flash sentry
      hippogriff
      captain celaeno
      changeling
      dragons
      the kirin
      buffaloes
      griffons
      yaks

    • @jordantrainor2617
      @jordantrainor2617 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@СержГарелов-б8ю You really love being an impatient and annoying individual, don't you?

    • @СержГарелов-б8ю
      @СержГарелов-б8ю 6 месяцев назад

      @@jordantrainor2617 no i just want to twilight sparkle coming back
      flash sentry
      hippogriff
      captain celaeno
      changeling
      dragons
      the kirin
      buffaloes
      griffons
      yaks
      please don't angry me

  • @seraphinofhearts
    @seraphinofhearts 6 месяцев назад

    YEAH but the german voices are.... broken since chapter 2