Regarding the stunt doubles, this was filmed before everyone had gigantic HD TVs. Back then, almost all were standard definition and most were 19" to 27" TVs that were across the room from where one was sitting.
this battle between Buffy and Faith is still one of my favorite fights from the whole show and yeah even though you could still see the stunt doubles here and there but you can also tell the budget and choreography went up hugely from last seasons sword fight between Buffy and Angelus, not as many edits , cut outs and wide shots in this fight
Graduation Day part 1 was another brilliant episode with the Buffy and Faith fight a super climax. We can see Faith out of control committing cold blooded murder of the Professor. We now know where Faith's knife ended up with Buffy giving it back to Faith in her gut. All this leads up to the brilliant part 2. S3 was where the show really developed into a stellar series. Interesting part where Xander pays homage to Jaws ' we are gonna need a bigger boat'. This was a brilliant Season. Enjoy part 2!
Buffy stabbed Faith with her own knife, but I don't think we see whether she pulled it back out or not. The more likely action would have been to pull it back out, despite the earlier dialogue suggesting Buffy was "giving it back." As the reactor has already seen part 2, this isn't a spoiler for her - Buffy has the knife still, as she taunts the Mayor demon with it...
Well, Faith said "you killed me" - but that was a gut wound, not immediately fatal. And slayers have rapid healing. Of course falling off a roof into a moving truck probably did some more damage...so who knows? At the moment we have "Schrodinger's Faith" kind of situation - neither dead nor alive until the show shows us for sure. After the "Cordelia's dead" fake-out earlier in the season, I didn't trust any death that is implied rather than clearly shown. :)
If you don't already know Faith survives the fall onto the back of the lorry (Dakara's ahead on patreon, this isn't a spoiler,) the shot of her head rolling to the side after the crash of breaking wood might make you think she broke her neck on impact. I think it was that, rather than the stab wound, that made Dakara think Faith died.
@@Talisguy I never thought that myself, it just looked like an unconscious rag doll motion to me. And yeah, I wasn't worried about spoiling since she said in the reaction she was going to watch the next episode right away even before editing this one, so even if she wasn't ahead on Patreon, she basically said she couldn't be spoiled for the second part, just not to spoil next season.
I didn't think Buffy was going to stab Faith and I certainly didn't expect Faith to fall of the roof either. That part got me like "we're screwed" :D Loved your reaction, as always! And thanks for the explosive diarrhoea, that made me laugh so hard!
Around this time fall arcs for characters were quite common. So I predicted that faith would go bad. Not that she would join the mayor, I suspected she'd be a spike wildcard character. When she did I predicted that she would face Buffy, and that Buffy would likely win. The mayor himself was an interesting take on a villain, not my favorite that's around season 5 but he wasn't a bad one either. Position of authority, running the town on a hellmouth etc. I didn't predict the end of the season, that was well done but that's for another comment section.
No predictions when watching it the first time. Had no idea what was going to happen. But not overthinking and just watching to see what would happen meant I was always entertained.
12:50 Ehm no. Not without storing blood over a weeks - There are around 10.5 pints of blood in the average human adult body, but this can vary based on factors such as a person’s age and size. It accounts for around 7-8% of an adult’s body weight. A person can lose around one pint without causing any harm to the body.
Favorite one liner is Xander telling Cordelia that Anya is freaking out about The Ascension before Cordelia asks him if he's going to lunch. It doesn't matter if Faith is dead or not so much as it matters that Buffy brought the knife (instead of the tranq gun). Any blood Faith loses isn't going to Angel, so it seems Buffy brought the knife for revenge (and to taunt Faith) instead of worrying about Angel. I love the moment The Mayor enters the library. The tone of the scene instantly changes. Harry Groener played The Mayor brilliantly. And why wouldn't he just walk in. Snyder's afraid of him at this point and before he was afraid bowed down to his local authority/position. The Scoobies are the only ones who know who he is and could do something about it.
I never had a chance to predict anything, because I got spoilered big time about a few things, I will not say what, because they would also include or hint at spoilers for you about season 4, so I'll just say that while I did not know the details I knew about the overall outcome of this episode and parts of the next.
The idea of using half Buffy/ half Faith is really clever. Especially when you consider that I've thought about this episode for 20 years and watched dozens of reactions and its never occurred to me or anybody I've watched. It is clever AND unique. Too many reactors spend too much time trying to "outsmart" the writers but this isn't obnoxious, its a really clever idea.
I would just have get a few bloodbags and the equipment for blood donation, feed Angel the drip while getting a blood infusion. Sure, over time the blood will get diluted, but that way you could give him a lot more with zero risk ...
It's not even certain that you actually need that much, remember that this is just info that they found in some old book and for obvious reasons that info was not determined in a scientific way with multiple tests so for all we know it was simply a case of a Vampire being poisoned by this and (s)he accidentally killed and drained the blood of a Slayer and was cured thus it was written into a book later as the only known cure.
No did not predict anything at the time, and interestingly enough this was the second episode which we had to wait a long time to see due to the network at the time delayed its airing due to the Columbine shooting (the first episode delayed was Earshot)
As I understand it, that scene where Angel slipped, David actully did slip, but both Sarah and him played it off great so it was just left in. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.
Slayers haven’t done well in the middle of season endings so far Buffy died in the middle of the season 1 finale Kendra at the end of part 1 for season 2 Faith is at best significantly wounded at the end of part 1 for season 3
She has only killed the hyena guy, Octarus (guy at the skating rink) and Gwendolyn Post. All were in self-defense and/or protecting others in immediate danger.
It was kinda obvious for me that a big fight scene between Buffy and Faith was unavoidable at this point. Though, I think I had expected it for the last episode, not this one. That's kinda the only thing I could have foreseen about this season finale back when I was discovering S3. That said, I wasn't much a "predicting what's gonna happen", and more a "enjoying the moment" kind of viewer.
I say yes, in less than 40 episodes of the Slayerverse you will know. I won't tell you what i'm talking about before it happens, but i will recall this post then. You're probably the first one who cames up with using blood of both slayers. Amazing idea 💪🏻.
I wish I could've skipped my high school graduation. Parents forced me to attend. I DID skip all my college graduations, though, and like you, no regrets whatsoever.
this thread is going to demonstrate survivorship bias. we're not gonna hear from anyone who was glad to have attended their graduation, but was then eaten by a giant snake.
maybe it will take you a rewatch to see that the major may have been a bad guy but he wasn't a *bad guy* and he really cared about Faith. I quite liked him
@@mhorrighan thanks. I never thought I would see the day where people call a homicidal maniac 'not a bad guy'. Even Hitler, Genghis Khan, Mao Zedong, etc. had people they cared for.
@@sidrahasad9942 lol, get off your high horse, you lunatic. the major wanted to eat some kids to ascend, not wipe out a whole people because of a racist ideology. did you fall on your head a few times to often?
So irritating you look at the details during the fights.... This is one of the most epic battles and you go on and break the charm. You go ahead and do it better then, go on! sheesh
No mixed messages if you were LGBTQ in that era. (none of this is official) Faith has been low key flirting with Buffy this whole time, while also showing Buffy that boys will never be worth more than a quick roll in the hay. In fact, Faith's play for Angel could be seen as a way to show Buffy that even the most devoted guy will stray so they're not worth it. I ship Buffy and Faith, but not as much as I do Buffy and someone else later in the show... although, the thought of them as a "thruple" is kinda exciting. I watched the show as it aired so I was pretty sure it was renewed, so I knew they would beat The Mayor but no idea how. The poison thing came as an absolute surprise, but it gave us the awesome Buffy vs Faith fight so no complaints. I do think they kinda rushed Willow and Oz, but I also think they wanted to leave us with the idea that anyone could die except Buffy so they were tying up loose ends so the audience would believe it. Also, did anyone else notice that Anya's waffling here reminds you of someone else waffling in season 6 episode 7?
if by "official" you mean joss whedon, then you're correct; someone had to actually sit him down and walk him thru all the evidence to make him realize what they'd done. however, while joss may not have intended it, eliza dushku and a handful of others did it intentionally.
"all dressed up in big sisters clothes"
"She looks like she's wearing your clothes to be fair Faith"
That's what Faith meant.
More accurately, clothes like hers, And her attitude too.
Regarding the stunt doubles, this was filmed before everyone had gigantic HD TVs. Back then, almost all were standard definition and most were 19" to 27" TVs that were across the room from where one was sitting.
this battle between Buffy and Faith is still one of my favorite fights from the whole show and yeah even though you could still see the stunt doubles here and there but you can also tell the budget and choreography went up hugely from last seasons sword fight between Buffy and Angelus, not as many edits , cut outs and wide shots in this fight
They got a better stunt coordinator between the end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3.
@@Kayjee17 yeah you can definitely tell by the end results of this great fight
Judging by the stance, I'm guessing Faith's stunt double is a male.
In other words Willow jus wanted to lose her V card
Graduation Day part 1 was another brilliant episode with the Buffy and Faith fight a super climax. We can see Faith out of control committing cold blooded murder of the Professor. We now know where Faith's knife ended up with Buffy giving it back to Faith in her gut. All this leads up to the brilliant part 2. S3 was where the show really developed into a stellar series. Interesting part where Xander pays homage to Jaws ' we are gonna need a bigger boat'. This was a brilliant Season. Enjoy part 2!
Buffy stabbed Faith with her own knife, but I don't think we see whether she pulled it back out or not. The more likely action would have been to pull it back out, despite the earlier dialogue suggesting Buffy was "giving it back." As the reactor has already seen part 2, this isn't a spoiler for her - Buffy has the knife still, as she taunts the Mayor demon with it...
Well, Faith said "you killed me" - but that was a gut wound, not immediately fatal. And slayers have rapid healing. Of course falling off a roof into a moving truck probably did some more damage...so who knows?
At the moment we have "Schrodinger's Faith" kind of situation - neither dead nor alive until the show shows us for sure. After the "Cordelia's dead" fake-out earlier in the season, I didn't trust any death that is implied rather than clearly shown. :)
If you don't already know Faith survives the fall onto the back of the lorry (Dakara's ahead on patreon, this isn't a spoiler,) the shot of her head rolling to the side after the crash of breaking wood might make you think she broke her neck on impact. I think it was that, rather than the stab wound, that made Dakara think Faith died.
@@Talisguy I never thought that myself, it just looked like an unconscious rag doll motion to me. And yeah, I wasn't worried about spoiling since she said in the reaction she was going to watch the next episode right away even before editing this one, so even if she wasn't ahead on Patreon, she basically said she couldn't be spoiled for the second part, just not to spoil next season.
"It's called explosive diarrhea" hahaha
Dakara: I can't believe I just hit play and it flew by...
Me: I KNOW!! I'm dying to see what you think of part 2!! 😄
I didn't think Buffy was going to stab Faith and I certainly didn't expect Faith to fall of the roof either. That part got me like "we're screwed" :D Loved your reaction, as always! And thanks for the explosive diarrhoea, that made me laugh so hard!
Fun fact: Harry Groener (the Mayor) was in the Original Broadway cast of "Cats" as Munkstrap (the storyteller).
Around this time fall arcs for characters were quite common. So I predicted that faith would go bad. Not that she would join the mayor, I suspected she'd be a spike wildcard character. When she did I predicted that she would face Buffy, and that Buffy would likely win. The mayor himself was an interesting take on a villain, not my favorite that's around season 5 but he wasn't a bad one either. Position of authority, running the town on a hellmouth etc. I didn't predict the end of the season, that was well done but that's for another comment section.
Dakara I love your hair in this video. It’s so beautiful. Great reaction!
No predictions when watching it the first time. Had no idea what was going to happen. But not overthinking and just watching to see what would happen meant I was always entertained.
12:50 Ehm no. Not without storing blood over a weeks - There are around 10.5 pints of blood in the average human adult body, but this can vary based on factors such as a person’s age and size. It accounts for around 7-8% of an adult’s body weight. A person can lose around one pint without causing any harm to the body.
Love all the rings, BTW
"Your blood."
Just remember All You Need Is A Little Faith.
Favorite one liner is Xander telling Cordelia that Anya is freaking out about The Ascension before Cordelia asks him if he's going to lunch.
It doesn't matter if Faith is dead or not so much as it matters that Buffy brought the knife (instead of the tranq gun). Any blood Faith loses isn't going to Angel, so it seems Buffy brought the knife for revenge (and to taunt Faith) instead of worrying about Angel.
I love the moment The Mayor enters the library. The tone of the scene instantly changes. Harry Groener played The Mayor brilliantly. And why wouldn't he just walk in. Snyder's afraid of him at this point and before he was afraid bowed down to his local authority/position. The Scoobies are the only ones who know who he is and could do something about it.
I never had a chance to predict anything, because I got spoilered big time about a few things, I will not say what, because they would also include or hint at spoilers for you about season 4, so I'll just say that while I did not know the details I knew about the overall outcome of this episode and parts of the next.
The idea of using half Buffy/ half Faith is really clever. Especially when you consider that I've thought about this episode for 20 years and watched dozens of reactions and its never occurred to me or anybody I've watched. It is clever AND unique. Too many reactors spend too much time trying to "outsmart" the writers but this isn't obnoxious, its a really clever idea.
Exactly
I would just have get a few bloodbags and the equipment for blood donation, feed Angel the drip while getting a blood infusion. Sure, over time the blood will get diluted, but that way you could give him a lot more with zero risk ...
It's not even certain that you actually need that much, remember that this is just info that they found in some old book and for obvious reasons that info was not determined in a scientific way with multiple tests so for all we know it was simply a case of a Vampire being poisoned by this and (s)he accidentally killed and drained the blood of a Slayer and was cured thus it was written into a book later as the only known cure.
Very clever indeed. However, the lore outlined in the tome would presume the existence of only one slayer.
Honestly, I don't remember what I predicted (if anything) when I first saw this 20 years ago, so I guess this is just for the almighty algorithm.
Ah, I thought season 3 is over already, but it wasn't, anyway waiting for the next season 😊
No did not predict anything at the time, and interestingly enough this was the second episode which we had to wait a long time to see due to the network at the time delayed its airing due to the Columbine shooting (the first episode delayed was Earshot)
As I understand it, that scene where Angel slipped, David actully did slip, but both Sarah and him played it off great so it was just left in. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.
Such a complex relationship between Buffy and Faith, epic fight and Buffy had to do this to save her lover. Enjoy the last one
The first of many awkward Anya conversations…
Yes poisonous arrow good plan from Faith actually y go for the kill when you can go for the pain
Slayers haven’t done well in the middle of season endings so far
Buffy died in the middle of the season 1 finale
Kendra at the end of part 1 for season 2
Faith is at best significantly wounded at the end of part 1 for season 3
Faith was always iffy to me!!
This episode is an example of the show pretending that Buffy hasn't already killed human when she has on multiple different occasions at this point.
She’s going specifically out to kill someone. I think prior to this any human deaths have been more in a fight
Has she? What humans has Buffy killed at this point? I can't think of any
She has only killed the hyena guy, Octarus (guy at the skating rink) and Gwendolyn Post. All were in self-defense and/or protecting others in immediate danger.
@@visarr well technically the hyenas killed him! Lol. The guy at the ice rink - was he human? I was never quite sure lol
It was kinda obvious for me that a big fight scene between Buffy and Faith was unavoidable at this point. Though, I think I had expected it for the last episode, not this one. That's kinda the only thing I could have foreseen about this season finale back when I was discovering S3. That said, I wasn't much a "predicting what's gonna happen", and more a "enjoying the moment" kind of viewer.
I say yes, in less than 40 episodes of the Slayerverse you will know. I won't tell you what i'm talking about before it happens, but i will recall this post then.
You're probably the first one who cames up with using blood of both slayers. Amazing idea 💪🏻.
Like 😎👍
I actually didn't attend my graduation. No regrets.
I wish I could've skipped my high school graduation. Parents forced me to attend. I DID skip all my college graduations, though, and like you, no regrets whatsoever.
this thread is going to demonstrate survivorship bias. we're not gonna hear from anyone who was glad to have attended their graduation, but was then eaten by a giant snake.
maybe it will take you a rewatch to see that the major may have been a bad guy but he wasn't a *bad guy* and he really cared about Faith. I quite liked him
With his personality in general, you can almost say he's a good guy, even though he's evil. With his wholesome personality.
Excuse me? 🤨
@@sidrahasad9942 you... are excused?
@@mhorrighan thanks. I never thought I would see the day where people call a homicidal maniac 'not a bad guy'.
Even Hitler, Genghis Khan, Mao Zedong, etc. had people they cared for.
@@sidrahasad9942 lol, get off your high horse, you lunatic. the major wanted to eat some kids to ascend, not wipe out a whole people because of a racist ideology. did you fall on your head a few times to often?
So irritating you look at the details during the fights.... This is one of the most epic battles and you go on and break the charm. You go ahead and do it better then, go on! sheesh
No mixed messages if you were LGBTQ in that era. (none of this is official) Faith has been low key flirting with Buffy this whole time, while also showing Buffy that boys will never be worth more than a quick roll in the hay. In fact, Faith's play for Angel could be seen as a way to show Buffy that even the most devoted guy will stray so they're not worth it. I ship Buffy and Faith, but not as much as I do Buffy and someone else later in the show... although, the thought of them as a "thruple" is kinda exciting.
I watched the show as it aired so I was pretty sure it was renewed, so I knew they would beat The Mayor but no idea how. The poison thing came as an absolute surprise, but it gave us the awesome Buffy vs Faith fight so no complaints. I do think they kinda rushed Willow and Oz, but I also think they wanted to leave us with the idea that anyone could die except Buffy so they were tying up loose ends so the audience would believe it.
Also, did anyone else notice that Anya's waffling here reminds you of someone else waffling in season 6 episode 7?
if by "official" you mean joss whedon, then you're correct; someone had to actually sit him down and walk him thru all the evidence to make him realize what they'd done. however, while joss may not have intended it, eliza dushku and a handful of others did it intentionally.
i still like Faith more than Buffy
blasphemy!!!
dont know how but ok lol