Seeing Alcos anywhere nowadays,is stupendous,as there are seemingly so few left! Indian Railways has a great number,and there may be a few in Spain,and Portugal,but they are getting rare,and far between! In the US,and Canada,they are non- existent in Mainline service,and now in museums,mores the pity,for nothing beat the old PA's,and FA's,and their cousins,the RS's for smoke displays! Though,now the GE's might give them som competition! Honorary steam engines,indeed! Miss them terribly,part of my childhood,and teenage times! Didn't really know EMD's until the 70's,not the same!! 😥🚍🚇🚅🚄🚃🚂🚂🚂🚉🚉🚉
I thought by your description the 80 class actually worked The Ghan, alas, only doing shunt duties, didn't think PN would trust it to get at least to Alice Springs without an issue. I went to Darwin about 18 months ago on The Ghan and enjoyed it, although I did prefer The Indian Pacific to Perth and back though, Great clip, thank you.
Great catch there Matt! SO basically, they turn the whole consist around to run it "backwards" to even out wheel wear? I guess thats easier than doing every car on the turntable ! Another good job sir! Cheers Gregg.
RRs can use turntables to turn individual cars, wyes or balloon (runaround) tracks to turn entire trains. Take a look on Google Earth for such at major RR junctions.
Have never understood why trains like The Ghan and The Indian Pacific, do not have any observation or dome cars, like you see on such trains in the US and Canada..
i can think of other reasons to reverse the train. no shunting the nr's from one end to the other. and the cars will be in a particular order. this may maintain that order, if it matters.
WRONG! The Indian Pacific has that honour, though the Ghan can claim more prestigue now it goes from The Alice to Darwin as well? Though it should run from Melbourne to Darwin of course! :-)
I've seen long passenger trains on Indian Railways but never as large as the Ghan. Are there that many passengers or are they moving the equipment for another reason. Also are those cars of a Budd design?
@@MS_Trains Thanks Matt, I'd love to go and see there movement, BUT I'm a Victorian(Melb metro) so we are chained to our houses at present!!! I think I counted 9 Platinum, on a train that normally only has 3. I had a gander at GSR web page and they have the precautions in place. Do you know what the passenger numbers are like? Ian
Wheel flange wear? I bet it has got more to do with the terrible state of all the tracks at Keswick Terminal than "wheel flange wear", maintenance does not look like it is a high priority at the terminal(my opinion). Why did the SA government put the city station for country and interstate trains out to an industrial wasteland at Keswick?
Seeing Alcos anywhere nowadays,is stupendous,as there are seemingly so few left! Indian Railways has a great number,and there may be a few in Spain,and Portugal,but they are getting rare,and far between! In the US,and Canada,they are non- existent in Mainline service,and now in museums,mores the pity,for nothing beat the old PA's,and FA's,and their cousins,the RS's for smoke displays! Though,now the GE's might give them som competition! Honorary steam engines,indeed! Miss them terribly,part of my childhood,and teenage times! Didn't really know EMD's until the 70's,not the same!! 😥🚍🚇🚅🚄🚃🚂🚂🚂🚉🚉🚉
That’s awesome. 👌
I boarded this consist the following day in Alice Springs for the trip to Darwin. A great experience.
80 Class’ look so good with the Pacific National livery
I pass by the mile end yard every morning and always see 8050 kicking around that area- never knew she was an alco though!
It's a great little loco with some grunt! Haven't seen it in a while myself.
Matt - M&S Trains
Excellent video. Never seen an 80 class lead this train before. Thanks 😊
I thought by your description the 80 class actually worked The Ghan, alas, only doing shunt duties, didn't think PN would trust it to get at least to Alice Springs without an issue. I went to Darwin about 18 months ago on The Ghan and enjoyed it, although I did prefer The Indian Pacific to Perth and back though, Great clip, thank you.
Great video. I didn't know they used an 80 class for that. Thanks.
Awesome
hahaa great video i was actually working on that train last week
Great train in a great travel!
I hope one day: 8050 enters preservation. She's earned it
What happened to the good old SAR "long-short-long" for the crossing?
awesome video!
Did anyone notice 3x power cars in the consist?
Why was the 80 class used there? Weight maybe? Great vid. Cheers.
Great timing! I just got my set of Auscision Ghan coaches (late 1980's livery). Maybe some are still running on this train?
Great catch there Matt! SO basically, they turn the whole consist around to run it "backwards" to even out wheel wear?
I guess thats easier than doing every car on the turntable ! Another good job sir!
Cheers Gregg.
@@MS_Trains Unless they’re using a different consist than above
RRs can use turntables to turn individual cars, wyes or balloon (runaround) tracks to turn entire trains. Take a look on Google Earth for such at major RR junctions.
I've seen it on a TV show and IDK what it's called?
Have never understood why trains like The Ghan and The Indian Pacific, do not have any observation or dome cars, like you see on such trains in the US and Canada..
Well America owns the train now
Why was 8050 leading?
i can think of other reasons to reverse the train. no shunting the nr's from one end to the other. and the cars will be in a particular order. this may maintain that order, if it matters.
The wheel wear thing sound suspicious. By returning on the same route, the train will turn left and right equal amounts. Try it in your backyard.
@@Greatdome99 ,i'm inclined to agree. this maneuver is a much shorter distance than the trip to darwin.
WRONG! The Indian Pacific has that honour, though the Ghan can claim more prestigue now it goes from The Alice to Darwin as well? Though it should run from Melbourne to Darwin of course! :-)
I've seen long passenger trains on Indian Railways but never as large as the Ghan. Are there that many passengers or are they moving the equipment for another reason. Also are those cars of a Budd design?
How often do they go around the triangle? And how many Platinum cars were on the train?
@@MS_Trains Thanks Matt, I'd love to go and see there movement, BUT I'm a Victorian(Melb metro) so we are chained to our houses at present!!! I think I counted 9 Platinum, on a train that normally only has 3. I had a gander at GSR web page and they have the precautions in place. Do you know what the passenger numbers are like? Ian
36 carriages including 9 Platinum.
Wheel flange wear? I bet it has got more to do with the terrible state of all the tracks at Keswick Terminal than "wheel flange wear", maintenance does not look like it is a high priority at the terminal(my opinion). Why did the SA government put the city station for country and interstate trains out to an industrial wasteland at Keswick?
It's South Australia! Why would it possibly make sense.
Matt - M&S Trains