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@@hungryjack8032 They don't break. They get bottle necked by software updates. The same people who push climate change are the ones slowing down your phone so you buy a new one every year or two.
@@Tyshkevich Yes they get clogged with unnecessary "improvements". Things like Buttons wear out and glass cracks and batteries die. Either way they force you to spend cash.
Apple remote killed my 1st gen iPad. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the device, nothing to fix. They just won't support it. So I got rid of them years ago.
Agreed. I’m a low volt tech and the first company I worked for had a strict no scrap rule. Throw the scrap from your installs in the dumpster because they didn’t want their employees searching for scrap on company time. To hell with that, so wasteful.
No one ever talks about the companies where their whole business model is convincing someone their status as a person requires them to buy a new $1k+ phone every year. What happened to electronics that worked for a decade? It's criminal.
Yep, materialism is the new Religion. Me personally, i think its insane spending that much on a phone. I buy a $100 android use it for a few years until it breaks
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This is really a game changer in E-waste problem. They should share this technology with counties like india. We have facing this problem so badly. Thanks to business insider for showing these kind of information
I have a clock radio I bought when I was a kid to wake up for work, I'm Retired now but it still works. Electronic components and functions can be compartmentalized and put on plug in boards that can be reused, those then can be unplugged from old devices and plugged into new ones with only minor restoration necessary
me and my 5 yr old phone and my 10 yr old laptop: "I guess people likes trendy and up-to-date, unlike me" I'm satisfies for what I have and I enjoy repairs.
@@knightburst6127 just like this video explains as well. We invent and produce products, it becomes a problem, and becomes far too late on a solution to reverse the effects it has. Why not have a solution before its development? Hope these were a better explanation.
Generally, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Would you rather not use computers at all to avoid having e-waste? Would you rather never drive a car, truck, boat etc to avoid releasing emissions? Compromises have to be made somewhere.
@@MaplePanda04 everything invented and produced will always have consequences. It's not about not having them. Why should it be so difficult to have a plan before the mass production in order for us to be able to reverse the effects it would eventually cause in the near future? Solar panels, electric car batteries, computer chips/ circuitboards, automobiles, the list goes on.. We are so quick to invent, mass produce, and profit from these products, that we have absolutely no plan ahead to reverse some of or all of the effects it will cause. Than it becomes a problem such as in these videos.
Love learning about this new process to avoid air pollution by using microbes and technology versus others burning the computers causing a toxic environment. Keep up the great work and innovation!
I totally agree, I hope it really takes off. I'm scared for the future of everyone. Those people who are burning that toxic stuff, they are in very difficult situations, and very poor in their countries. Places like the US pay to have their waste dumped there, and then people living in those places risk their lives to earn a living. If they truly had a choice, they wouldn't be doing that to make a living. They're also victims of e-waste in the grand scheme of things. I hope I live one day to see the world get better for everyone.
Are you Serious ? People get NEW phones every 2 yrs. Lithium Car Batteries will NEVER be Recyclable... too much Time / Space & MONEY - This is What is Destroying & Depleting the Earth @ Astronomical Rate - Just to Extract , Produce Lithium Is the DIRTIEST , Most Toxic for the WATER & Where they dump the large amounts of TOXIC WASTE Biggest LIE of the Century Lithium , Lion is Clean Energy. Its 10× more Dirty than Oil & Refinery -
The story is sad, but the ending doesn't have to be. As the company just showed, there were already natural lifeforms which could help with part of the problem. I'm in biochemistry, and a lot of the times you need to mess with bacteria to create one that does something particularly useful - having the microbes already exist saves a lot of work.
@@limonbattery That's true, but I agree with the gentleman saying we need to solve this problem at the source. They should be held accountable. Here in the Netherlands when you buy a new electronical product you have to pay a recycling fee. (I'm not sure if they really use it to recycle the old product though) So the user is already held accountable for the geetting a new product.
This has been happening for years now. I part owned a company that recycled gold from computers, and it was hard getting good boards and ram 10 years ago. All modern boards have little to no gold in them.
That's normal. New tech is made in "economy" with less ores (or made with new materials) in order to reduce waste but mainly to reduce production costs. Like everything else today. But that's also why old stuff usually last longer contrariwise the new that it's more susceptible to tear and break because of the bad design. You can see the same differences in the construction world... Todays buildings even if made in reinforced concrete don't last even 100 years before showing structural damages... And yet ancient roman buildings are still standing from centuries after seeing wars, eartquakes etc... requiring low maintenance. That's because modern portland concrete doesn't have the same percentage of pozzolan and other stuff in the mixture...
@Tom Kelly It looks the part. The issue with smaller companies was that they never disposed of the chemicals properly that were used to break the gold down. It was really popular years back, so all of the big chips got snapped up. Very little these days has any gold in. The Chinese made boards that looked like gold, but weren't. Many lost money buying them.
@@tomkelly8827 it's a test of concept, likely running on investor and government grant monies. A plant using harsh chemicals can be closed loop. Doesn't matter if it's harsh, but never escapes the plant.
Micro-organisms that only absorbs precious metal...learning something everyday with RUclips. And doing my 3rd year in chemical engineering this is useful one day for sure.
@@LeSeulGarcon great question. I did some research and their technology extracts not only gold but also other metals such as tin, copper, silver, iron etc. Plastic and fiberglass, used for the base of motherboard, hasn't been mentioned in the process so maybe that it disposed through other means. In conclusion, it's much better method than what was shown in e-waste dump site.
It's crazy that I've been talking about this for years, and they have finally found a more ecologically sustainable way to process this waste, but what are they doing with the excess carbon and silicone waste which can still be refined? There are many things which need to be shown and talked about like what is the amount of chemical waste from these plants, what's the overhead relative to the time it takes to refine one ton of circuit boards, and what are the sourcing capabilities and the the viability of placing these plants at an efficient radius to plants which are willing to update their process from export preparation to a refining process. If we could get these processes subsidized then businesses will be willing to take on the overhead, which was the reason we exported it in the first place. I have put more thought into plants such as this than I'd like to admit, and with nothing to show for it to boot. Thankfully there are many different people who are working on these issues, and even though most cannot help with the end solutions, they can start by curtailing consumption, advocating for the reuse of technology, and to ensure that anti consumer practices such as planned obsolescence and the the denial of the right to repair (with proprietary tools no less) are stopped completely. This is an issue for every person who utilizes technology, it is your responsibility.
I remember a similar video where everything was stripped off of the boards then shoveled into a furnace to be melted together. They then used similar baths and magnets to separate everything. Was a neat video
This is actually quite clever in my opinion. It turns e-waste (or indeed anything that requires precious metals) into a quite valuable ore. Obviously it would be better not to have it generated at all, and to make it reusable when it is, but this is still a great idea in my opinion
That recycling is already done for decades via the copper recycling way. All the precious metals drop out as byproducts. I don't see an advantage in this tech to what is already known for a long time.
I agree with the bathtub analogy. And the amount of money going in to extract these metals from mining should be diverted into creating the recycling plants. They say it costs a lot to make one, but never give estimations for the plants price. But they're quick to say the price for mining and how much the world wants to dump money into mining.
That’s cool how they get the precious metals, but what happens to the rest of the substance where they recovered the precious metal from? Where does that waste end up ?
It's mostly fiberglass and plastic housing for integrated circuit components at that point, I think. Remaining stuff are probably treated like plastic waste. The bright side is that they've grounded the entire thing down to sand like consistency so you can probably pack away alot more waste per volume.
@@krillnyetheshrimpguy6152 They could (and might do that) compact that to pellets and use it as a carbon sink by just fill old mines up with that so the trapped carbon gets permanantly extracted from the carbon cycle. If that is the case this process could even be carbonnegativ (meaning it reduces the amount of CO2 in the system by peramntly extracting it)
that would mean that very many people who do scrapping to eek out a bare minimum living to feed their family would be out of business. Is that really what you want?
nice how all these industries keep each other in business, you got the software developers working together with computer part manufacturers so that each year you need more powerful components to run newer programs/games, you got apple/samsung releasing updates to make your phone obsolete and slow within a few years, gold companies supplying the parts makers, gold recyclers recycling old obsolete parts to sell gold to the gold companies etc etc "It's a zero sum game. Somebody wins and somebody loses. Money itself isn't lost or made, it's simply transferred from one perception to another." - Gordon Gekko
Man I love Business Insider, you guys have been doing some very good work. Thank you so much for this bit, it was very interesting and it can start a good conversation in our societies about these problems, maybe helping to inspire us to figure out what we should and can do about these problems. May God bless you all now and evermore.
@@Golfr2020 Mining from finished components is wasteful. Electronics usually fails because of one or a few components, meaning most are fine. Direct recycling versus destructive recycling. Right to Repair is more akin to direct recycling and upcycling. In its implementation, it is also more profitable.
Its true I've worked at a gold / copper mine that has other trace elements . The ore bodies look like the wax blobs in a laval lamp . The ore bodies' shape and locations are mapped by extensive core drilling . The high grade deposit was 1.3~ grams/tonne and what is called open bottom , they have reached the economic cut off depth for retrieval at current metal prices . The low grade ore bodys are some where of .4 grams/ tonne . But when 2500 tonnes / hour are processed by 1 line of which may be 50% of the total through put the dollars soon at up .
@@machinerydoctor Yes, I've working in three hard rock open pit gold mines, two large sulphide copper/gold mines and a sulphide molybdenum mine. The largest copper/gold mine the ore grade was a life time average of .77% copper with .9 g/tonne gold and through put was over 80 k tonnes per day. Big bucks.
AMD😏...seriously though I have a ryzen 3-2200U and it's a piece of garbage and can't run anything except Minecraft, if they stopped wasting resources time and money and just made actually good devices that would probably make a difference
They extract not only gold, but also tantalum which is one of the important materials in portable electronics that act as capacitors and store data after our phones are turned off. It is not as expensive as gold but it is not cheap. It is a rare item.
This is amazing!!! They ask if it's a good idea?? Of course it is!! Getting rid of our E waste is an amazing thing. Getting the gold from it should be the bonus from it. As long as this process is not having a part of the problem then the whole world should jump on board with this!!!
Right I was just happy about the clean method that they say that use. Cyanide and mercury and all those other poisons they use to extract the gold is not good for the people or the Earth.
This does not get rid of E-Waste magically. It recovers the precious metals and it burns the plastics just like they do in landfills in the global south. Ecologically, this has not much of an impact.
@@PHlophe Why should one company go through all the huge expense of hiring scientists and technicians, doing the research, the experimentation, and the invention of all the machinery - and then lose out on recouping some of their heavy initial costs by 'giving the technology away'? Can you afford to do something like that? It's perfectly (and morally) acceptable to either sell or license the technology to other countries. Good thing is, this is a New Zealand company - had it been a greedy US company, the right to buy/license the technology would be many times the cost.
mostly a thin micron thk. layer is plated on contacts. there are other metals that don't corrode like chromium and nickle but they are harder to plate and have less electrical conductivity.
I'm so glad they are doing this and taking extreme measures to extract and recycle these rare Earth elements because most of them were ending back in the soil also known as the "land fill or dump" 👍
I've visited a Montreal company called Lavergne that already separates plastics and metals then re extrudes new plastic pellets. They have been doing it for a while and use a water bath, magnets, automatised visual separation, electro static separation.
holy shit, 1% of all yearly australian electronic waste is actually huge, if they had multiple plants in multiple cities around the world or in different countries, they could actually make a difference
im so interested to learn about this, what should i study? i think biotechnology would be the future of waste processing, but im kinda lost on where to begin
Biotechnology, sustainable material development and sustainable engineering are gonna be the way for future. My suggestion is go wide ,collect knowledge then specialize
Building off what shyam said, from my experience biochemistry is a good starting point to branch off. You can pivot into the physical sciences side with pure chemistry, materials sciences, chem engineering etc., or into the life sciences side with molecular biology, bioengineering, staying in biochemistry etc. The nice thing is stuff doesn't specialize until a while into your college education, so you have some time to decide which aspects fascinate you the most, or sometimes which ones it turns out you don't like. Remember - there are many sides to these complex problems, so there are many fields which work together to add their own knowledge in designing solutions. Even those outside science and engineering (e.g. in law or business) can help by making solutions profitable enough to be worth pursuing: you can invent a magic pill that adds 10 years to anyone's life, but if it's too expensive or hard to get, people won't use it and it may as well not exist.
The guy at the end is 100% correct. Make corporations responsible for the end of life of their products and packaging. If that were the case, packaging would be biodegradable over night and products would have a sensible means of disposal
That would be disastrous, we don't need to do anything like that, the way we solve this problem is, as a people, demand this from companies, that way the solution would come naturally and stick.
This video makes me wish I listened during chemistry lessons 🤔
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The electronic sand reminds me of that time when Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbs) came to his dad crying because he broke his dad's camera. He asked his dad if he could fix it, and his dad reassured him. Of course, just show it to me. Calvin then took out some sand sealed in a plastic bag. Kind of a weird moment, but yeah...
I remember my late grandpa used to own a refrigerator where the cabinets and everything inside is made from metals. It lasted for almost 3 decades. Nowadays the cabinets are mostly flimsy plastics, of "tempered glass" as they dub it. Which they claim as strong but will still break and shatter if you drop it. As result many people buy new fridge because the old one already too broken to use
I make a second hand phone last me up to 5 years for a reasonable price , people litter and create waste way too much we need to clean the planet up and spread the love !
Extracting the Gold and Palladium on its own is probably not financially viable however when you consider the extraction of the copper, tin etc and the cost and environmental damage of current processes it might just be viable. There would still be enormous amounts of waste in the process but at least that waste would be a little less harmful to the environment. The better solution would be putting an end to forced obsolescence and having manufacturers produce products that last longer, are easily repairable by third parties and that when they do eventually reach end of life are readily recyclable.
It will be hard to tell companies to make a product that will last twice as long as they do now, because that will mean less sales of the product, meaning yearly revenue will decrease, meaning stock holders and investors will dump stock shares when dividends fall below inflation. In a world that depends on a Capitalistic economy, inflationary spiral is the ultimate outcome. An employee in a union demands more pay, the company awards more pay and increases the cost of the company's product to compensate. Now the product costs more and people complain about the high cost of goods. And when do you think this upward spiral will stop and reverse. Never !!!! and you will eventually have a two level country, those who can afford, and those who can not, and those who can not afford will turn to crime to solve their money problems.
@@Alex-kp3hr I'll tackle what you said in reverse order. We unfortunately already have a world of the haves and the have nots. Any real pretense of the majority of the population in most countries being middle class went out the door decades ago. If you wish to see what happens when countries legislate against forced obsolescence check out some of the legislation that's been active in the EU for some years now. All in all its usually more long term cost effective to get a better quality product that is not designed to break after a year or 2. As for companies, they either learn to adapt or stop doing business in that market, I can tell you which option hurts their yearly profits more.
Not really. The waste chemical first goes into a 5 gallon bucket containing copper pipes. After 2-3 months the liquid is poured into a 2nd bucket containing iron/steel parts. after 2-3 months you take the liquid and change the ph to 7 and then you can safely dispose of it because it is not acidic or alkaline at ph7. it is tap water level. The residue at the bottom of the first bucket will contain any precious metals you missed. The residue at the bottom of the 2nd bucket will contain any copper you missed. Read more about this in the goldrefiningforum waste bucket management.
This is why right to repair is SO IMPORTANT. We deserve to have access to purchase spare parts to repair them or for more complicated things companies should offer instructions to local electronics repair specialists not affiliated with their company
All I can say is this better come to the mainstream, I want this to become the norm where all manufacturing for electronics comes from recycled materials from e-waste. Im talking Apple, Intel, Samsung, all the tech compinies. I also want to see local e waste management too so that concurrent e-waste can be recycled. This means that 100% of the flow for materials for new products comes from concurrent e-waste, and as there will be still a flow for e-waste, as we will keep buying and throwing away items. This should be our future instead of landfill and stilly ways of resycling, and I hate that this hasnt become the norm even still in 2022. We also need right to repair so we can repair the items we allready have so we don't have to throw them away.
The problem is having throw away products and fashion. When mega cell phone companies make a new phone every year, what is the incentive to make a product for long term?
Making new phone each year dosent mean that people buy new phone each year(Maybe except a few percent crazy indviduals). Most people especialy now keep their phone for at least 2 to 3(or even longer) years and even then i doubt they Will throw away a perfectly working phone. They Will Just give it to someone or sell(I mean the oldest phone in my family is from 2015 right now and its still working fine and we have even older phone Just In case something happens to the other) . Bigger problem is the fact that certain companies make it practicly immposible to repair your phone for reasonable price or even at all
Have had my iPhone 7 ever since it was released and it’s working *amazingly* fine. I see absolutely no reason to buy a new phone if my current one is working sufficiently
E-waste is a problem and so are the gadgets which are made to break after the warranty ends. It's amazing how the companies making these gadgets have no accountability for the e-waste their products produce.
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To really Purify the Gold it takes tons of Chemicals Before it even is smelted into that solid gold. And that's after MINT removed the heavy Metals out of the e-waste. So he's only half way there.
@@fredrikalfson1541 the problem is profitability. If you can't make money doing it, no one is going to do it unless the tax payers are willing to fund it.
@@c.j.1089 By the time recycling becomes cheaper than mining, it will be too late. At best right now, artificially speeding up the viability of recycling by taxing mined raw materials and use that to subsidize recycling research. The cost will of course fall to the end product customer but it would also give more value to old electronics making it worth piling up to sell later on.
I live in bucks county pa and there is the tullytown landfill, I used to work there and I can assure you just at certain levels the silver coins that used to be in regular circulation would probably make it profitable enough but the amount of gold in the whole landfill is probably unimaginable its like 3 man made mountains of trash from the 40s to now.
2:05 you know eventually you could just use sea bead sediments to get the same results like ocean bed soil should be rich in almost all minierals and just drying it out then processing it though a chemical bath to be atrtracted to Seed nodes you could in theory tune it to the monotomic freqency of any alloy i'd assume if someone could figure out the correct method .
I don't really see how this process could be seen as ecologically viable. Getting 150 grams of gold from a metric ton of e-waste is less than .015% by volume (if my math is correct). Unless there was some pretty advanced filtering, you're burning a significant amount of material, releasing plastics, carbon, and toxins into the air for a very small metal recovery rate.
Most recycling is smoke and mirrors. Extra trucks, using extra fuel and piling the goods in storage yards until they can't sell it and it ends up at the tip; where it would have anyway. Just so we can feel good that we are mindlessly doing something good for the environment.
150 grams a week is roughly 5 Troy ounces or in the neighborhood of $9000-$10000 USD a week and that’s just from the gold not to mention the palladium and copper. If their gross revenue is 15k a week and their operating costs are 1/2 that. It means 4-5 employees splitting like 7k a week for an industry they feel really passionate about.
This is so interesting! I would never have thought that micro-organisms would have a such a vital part in a procedure like this, I love to see nature being used to help the environment. There are some other really interesting organisms that can help the environment as well. I've seen some research on bacteria that "eat" plastic, which could be huge in helping decrease plastic waste. However, aside from looking at what happens to waste, we should also look at what happens that makes so much waste. Reusing things is such a key part of the "REUSE, REDUCE, RECYCLE" model, and I love that it is so easy. We can often get caught up in getting the next new great thing while forgetting the materials we already have, and keeping them is an easy way to contribute to sustainability.
and just think of how many Africans would be deprived of being able to get e-waste and eek out a meager living to feed their family. Wouldn't that be fun.
You know they just used sulphuric acid to leach metals to make copper sulfate which is blue in solution and the other non precious metals salts? The dust/sand is already depleted from non precious metals and is not involed anymore in the electroplating process but gets "eaten/feasted on" by the microbes.
I am proud of Myself, I bought Dell 30 inch Monitor for my computer, about 17 years ago and it is still running perfect. And I have no reason to replace it anytime soon. Dell is a great Company.
good for you. but what will happen when the life of the monitor components start to degrade and your monitor slowly gets darker because your contrast and brightness circuit is failing, or when red lines start to appear across your screen indicating video output failure. Nothing last forever. Monitors usually last 10-20 years.
According to me, the 'real gold' to come out of this process is not gold (Au) but copper and the reduction of e-waste. More and more countries should work on this project
Brilliant idea. Goes to show just what a mistake it was sending old electronics abroad in the first place - seeing how valuable metals are recovered over there, by burning. It makes your hair stand on end.
@@shadowtridentedits The Government is terrible at doing basically anything en mass (besides taking your money) and takes ages to do the small amount of good things it does manage to accomplish. Get the free market on board and it'll take off bigtime and instantly. People need to stop relying on the Government. Vote with your wallets. If you don't like how a company handles things like waste then don't buy their products. Or instead of buying the brand new IPhone every 6 months when they release a new one you buy a used one a few years old instead. It's small sure. But if everyone did that we wouldn't have issues this big in the first place.
I have got the following questions: 1. Do they use bioreactor for bioleaching purpose? 2. Why and how the microbes do the oxidation? 3. What kind of leachate is formed in this case? 4. How the gold-rich ash is purified or refined to retrieve the gold?
I love the concept and the goals of the company its both good for profit as well to cutdown on chemical waste. This might even be relevent for the company im working at. Afterall since we work and refurbish hardware we end up with tons of E-waste
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we could cut this waste in half by getting rid of the idea that having a new phone every year makes you a better person
if the phones would only not break every year or two. If the parts were easily changeable and upgradable a phone could last 10 years.
@@hungryjack8032 They don't break. They get bottle necked by software updates. The same people who push climate change are the ones slowing down your phone so you buy a new one every year or two.
That’s called consumerism.
@@Tyshkevich Yes they get clogged with unnecessary "improvements". Things like Buttons wear out and glass cracks and batteries die. Either way they force you to spend cash.
@@hungryjack8032 no they have been caught slowing phones down via "updates". They had to admit it.
This is why electronic repair is so important. Creating less e-waste in the first place makes it much cheaper and easier to deal with.
That’s what I’m trying to learn!
@@Kras_Mazov-i4l Apple is major e-waste producer with their forced obsolescense policy and replacing instead of repair.
Apple remote killed my 1st gen iPad. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the device, nothing to fix. They just won't support it. So I got rid of them years ago.
Agreed. I’m a low volt tech and the first company I worked for had a strict no scrap rule. Throw the scrap from your installs in the dumpster because they didn’t want their employees searching for scrap on company time. To hell with that, so wasteful.
Tell that apple.
No one ever talks about the companies where their whole business model is convincing someone their status as a person requires them to buy a new $1k+ phone every year. What happened to electronics that worked for a decade? It's criminal.
It's your problem
Yep, materialism is the new Religion. Me personally, i think its insane spending that much on a phone. I buy a $100 android use it for a few years until it breaks
Companies realised that if people had electronics that lasted long and were easy to repair then they would have been instantly out of business.
Wait until it starts happening with electric cars. This video is only about the circuit boards, imagine having to deal with the batteries.
@@augere9620 different chemistry, and battery recycling is already happening.
Remember guys: REDUCE AND REUSE comes BEFORE RECYCLE for a reason.
Apple: hires more children in China and exploits African resources for cheaper prices “ I don’t see what could be wrong”
I recycle my trash and makes money hehe
@Ti Xier what do mean by hiring children isn't bad
@O Apeleftherotís ton Anthropón Aftís tis epochís yeah if alot of them did not the job they would probably die
Right on! I presume you typed this message on your computer or phone. So are you planning to stop buying and using this technology?
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This is really a game changer in E-waste problem. They should share this technology with counties like india. We have facing this problem so badly. Thanks to business insider for showing these kind of information
Actually, it's not. That kind of e-waste recycling that THIS does is already profitable in about every country in the world.
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If your country don't know how to recycle then youre in big trouble
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
@@Gambit24 west smugles their e waste to india.
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Some countries are the world's dumping grounds.
Stop pretending like you give a shit about what you cannot see.
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I have a clock radio I bought when I was a kid to wake up for work, I'm
Retired now but it still works. Electronic components and functions can be compartmentalized and put on plug in boards that can be reused, those then can be unplugged from old devices and plugged into new ones with only minor restoration necessary
me and my 5 yr old phone and my 10 yr old laptop: "I guess people likes trendy and up-to-date, unlike me"
I'm satisfies for what I have and I enjoy repairs.
It's sad knowing that we don't think that far ahead until it becomes a problem. The greatest inventions become disastrous and hard to reverse.
Explain what you mean some more ?
@@knightburst6127 just like this video explains as well. We invent and produce products, it becomes a problem, and becomes far too late on a solution to reverse the effects it has. Why not have a solution before its development? Hope these were a better explanation.
@@knightburst6127 like oil and pollution all the emissions from vehicles that we hardly acknowledge but try to plant trees in effort to lessen
Generally, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Would you rather not use computers at all to avoid having e-waste? Would you rather never drive a car, truck, boat etc to avoid releasing emissions? Compromises have to be made somewhere.
@@MaplePanda04 everything invented and produced will always have consequences. It's not about not having them. Why should it be so difficult to have a plan before the mass production in order for us to be able to reverse the effects it would eventually cause in the near future? Solar panels, electric car batteries, computer chips/ circuitboards, automobiles, the list goes on.. We are so quick to invent, mass produce, and profit from these products, that we have absolutely no plan ahead to reverse some of or all of the effects it will cause. Than it becomes a problem such as in these videos.
Love learning about this new process to avoid air pollution by using microbes and technology versus others burning the computers causing a toxic environment. Keep up the great work and innovation!
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
I totally agree, I hope it really takes off. I'm scared for the future of everyone. Those people who are burning that toxic stuff, they are in very difficult situations, and very poor in their countries. Places like the US pay to have their waste dumped there, and then people living in those places risk their lives to earn a living. If they truly had a choice, they wouldn't be doing that to make a living. They're also victims of e-waste in the grand scheme of things. I hope I live one day to see the world get better for everyone.
Are you Serious ?
People get NEW phones every 2 yrs.
Lithium Car Batteries will NEVER be Recyclable... too much Time / Space & MONEY -
This is What is Destroying & Depleting the Earth @ Astronomical Rate -
Just to Extract , Produce Lithium
Is the DIRTIEST , Most Toxic for the WATER & Where they dump the large amounts of TOXIC WASTE
Biggest LIE of the Century
Lithium , Lion is Clean Energy.
Its 10× more Dirty than Oil & Refinery -
Sad but true story of our world... Money is everything and there's no waste unless it's on your front door =/
The story is sad, but the ending doesn't have to be. As the company just showed, there were already natural lifeforms which could help with part of the problem. I'm in biochemistry, and a lot of the times you need to mess with bacteria to create one that does something particularly useful - having the microbes already exist saves a lot of work.
@@limonbattery That's true, but I agree with the gentleman saying we need to solve this problem at the source. They should be held accountable. Here in the Netherlands when you buy a new electronical product you have to pay a recycling fee. (I'm not sure if they really use it to recycle the old product though) So the user is already held accountable for the geetting a new product.
@@jadenhau I hope that money goes to a good cause, because despite all the recycling, most of our trash is not recycled
We need biodegradable electronics.
@@eatrawlivingfoods that would be the best scenario
This has been happening for years now. I part owned a company that recycled gold from computers, and it was hard getting good boards and ram 10 years ago. All modern boards have little to no gold in them.
That's normal. New tech is made in "economy" with less ores (or made with new materials) in order to reduce waste but mainly to reduce production costs. Like everything else today. But that's also why old stuff usually last longer contrariwise the new that it's more susceptible to tear and break because of the bad design. You can see the same differences in the construction world... Todays buildings even if made in reinforced concrete don't last even 100 years before showing structural damages... And yet ancient roman buildings are still standing from centuries after seeing wars, eartquakes etc... requiring low maintenance. That's because modern portland concrete doesn't have the same percentage of pozzolan and other stuff in the mixture...
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
Good for you man! So what do you think about the facility that they are showing here?
@Tom Kelly It looks the part. The issue with smaller companies was that they never disposed of the chemicals properly that were used to break the gold down. It was really popular years back, so all of the big chips got snapped up. Very little these days has any gold in. The Chinese made boards that looked like gold, but weren't. Many lost money buying them.
@@tomkelly8827 it's a test of concept, likely running on investor and government grant monies.
A plant using harsh chemicals can be closed loop. Doesn't matter if it's harsh, but never escapes the plant.
Micro-organisms that only absorbs precious metal...learning something everyday with RUclips.
And doing my 3rd year in chemical engineering this is useful one day for sure.
This is pretty good! This + right to repair will definitely help our planet in the long-term
nah
@@spillthetruth5898 y not
Very true.
I wonder how much pollution this laboratory creates for such a small amount of gold?
@@LeSeulGarcon great question. I did some research and their technology extracts not only gold but also other metals such as tin, copper, silver, iron etc. Plastic and fiberglass, used for the base of motherboard, hasn't been mentioned in the process so maybe that it disposed through other means.
In conclusion, it's much better method than what was shown in e-waste dump site.
It's crazy that I've been talking about this for years, and they have finally found a more ecologically sustainable way to process this waste, but what are they doing with the excess carbon and silicone waste which can still be refined? There are many things which need to be shown and talked about like what is the amount of chemical waste from these plants, what's the overhead relative to the time it takes to refine one ton of circuit boards, and what are the sourcing capabilities and the the viability of placing these plants at an efficient radius to plants which are willing to update their process from export preparation to a refining process. If we could get these processes subsidized then businesses will be willing to take on the overhead, which was the reason we exported it in the first place. I have put more thought into plants such as this than I'd like to admit, and with nothing to show for it to boot. Thankfully there are many different people who are working on these issues, and even though most cannot help with the end solutions, they can start by curtailing consumption, advocating for the reuse of technology, and to ensure that anti consumer practices such as planned obsolescence and the the denial of the right to repair (with proprietary tools no less) are stopped completely. This is an issue for every person who utilizes technology, it is your responsibility.
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
His name is Ollie Crush. He was born for this
I remember a similar video where everything was stripped off of the boards then shoveled into a furnace to be melted together. They then used similar baths and magnets to separate everything. Was a neat video
This is actually quite clever in my opinion. It turns e-waste (or indeed anything that requires precious metals) into a quite valuable ore.
Obviously it would be better not to have it generated at all, and to make it reusable when it is, but this is still a great idea in my opinion
That recycling is already done for decades via the copper recycling way. All the precious metals drop out as byproducts. I don't see an advantage in this tech to what is already known for a long time.
I agree with the bathtub analogy. And the amount of money going in to extract these metals from mining should be diverted into creating the recycling plants. They say it costs a lot to make one, but never give estimations for the plants price. But they're quick to say the price for mining and how much the world wants to dump money into mining.
That’s cool how they get the precious metals, but what happens to the rest of the substance where they recovered the precious metal from? Where does that waste end up ?
its burned in some african waste dump, its called e-waste and its a problem
Beat me to it. Well done. I was thinking the exact same thing.
It's mostly fiberglass and plastic housing for integrated circuit components at that point, I think.
Remaining stuff are probably treated like plastic waste. The bright side is that they've grounded the entire thing down to sand like consistency so you can probably pack away alot more waste per volume.
@@krillnyetheshrimpguy6152 They could (and might do that) compact that to pellets and use it as a carbon sink by just fill old mines up with that so the trapped carbon gets permanantly extracted from the carbon cycle.
If that is the case this process could even be carbonnegativ (meaning it reduces the amount of CO2 in the system by peramntly extracting it)
It goes straight into the ocean where it belongs
Hey Mint!
Build one in India too!
We have a tons and tons of E wastes
that would mean that very many people who do scrapping to eek out a bare minimum living to feed their family would be out of business. Is that really what you want?
nice how all these industries keep each other in business, you got the software developers working together with computer part manufacturers so that each year you need more powerful components to run newer programs/games, you got apple/samsung releasing updates to make your phone obsolete and slow within a few years, gold companies supplying the parts makers, gold recyclers recycling old obsolete parts to sell gold to the gold companies etc etc
"It's a zero sum game. Somebody wins and somebody loses. Money itself isn't lost or made, it's simply transferred from one perception to another." - Gordon Gekko
Isn't it nice to be living in a Capitalistically inflationary spiraling economy.
Man I love Business Insider, you guys have been doing some very good work. Thank you so much for this bit, it was very interesting and it can start a good conversation in our societies about these problems, maybe helping to inspire us to figure out what we should and can do about these problems.
May God bless you all now and evermore.
Tell your government you want “Right To Repair” legislation!
spread the word of louis rossman
W T F. has that got to do with it?
@@Golfr2020 Mining from finished components is wasteful. Electronics usually fails because of one or a few components, meaning most are fine. Direct recycling versus destructive recycling. Right to Repair is more akin to direct recycling and upcycling. In its implementation, it is also more profitable.
APPLE HATES YOU HA HA
@@bradhaines3142 d
A lot of large gold mines only have 0.5 grams per tonne. Cynanide is the usual method for extracting gold in these mines.
Really, 0.5 grammes per tonne, wow that's so sad 😔
yup, 1-3 g/ton is considered a rich ore. If the volume is there, 0.5 g/ton is good enough to mine and extract
@@Alorio-Gori And by that statement you proved you know nothing about mining.
Its true
I've worked at a gold / copper mine that has other trace elements .
The ore bodies look like the wax blobs in a laval lamp .
The ore bodies' shape and locations are mapped by extensive core drilling .
The high grade deposit was 1.3~ grams/tonne and what is called open bottom , they have reached the economic cut off depth for retrieval at current metal prices .
The low grade ore bodys are some where of .4 grams/ tonne .
But when 2500 tonnes / hour are processed by 1 line of which may be 50% of the total through put the dollars soon at up .
@@machinerydoctor Yes, I've working in three hard rock open pit gold mines, two large sulphide copper/gold mines and a sulphide molybdenum mine. The largest copper/gold mine the ore grade was a life time average of .77% copper with .9 g/tonne gold and through put was over 80 k tonnes per day. Big bucks.
I'll bet that that blue circuit board in the middle at 0:05 has a better CPU than my laptop.
Intel, potato inside
@@derdrache0512 an intel i3 to be exact( no joke)
AMD😏...seriously though I have a ryzen 3-2200U and it's a piece of garbage and can't run anything except Minecraft, if they stopped wasting resources time and money and just made actually good devices that would probably make a difference
@@dimagass7801 Ryzen 7 3700X, runs as smooth as butter.
@Reyansh Depends on what theyre running off it, minecraft is pretty cpu heavy so maybe you right
I would love to see an update on this process, did they successfully build the larger plants and how are they preforming.
We're planning a follow-up story at their new plant in Sydney. Thanks!
@@BusinessInsiderwhere can I invest looks like a good opportunity
@@BusinessInsiderthanks for responding over a year later. Love seeing journalism that’s active with their fanbase
They extract not only gold, but also tantalum which is one of the important materials in portable electronics that act as capacitors and store data after our phones are turned off. It is not as expensive as gold but it is not cheap. It is a rare item.
This is amazing!!! They ask if it's a good idea?? Of course it is!! Getting rid of our E waste is an amazing thing. Getting the gold from it should be the bonus from it. As long as this process is not having a part of the problem then the whole world should jump on board with this!!!
Exactly mate, exactly.
Right I was just happy about the clean method that they say that use. Cyanide and mercury and all those other poisons they use to extract the gold is not good for the people or the Earth.
@Favel Konefka. they use the same method with mercury. Is all I was saying. I'm glad cyanide isn't harmful. Thank you for correcting my ignorance!!
This does not get rid of E-Waste magically. It recovers the precious metals and it burns the plastics just like they do in landfills in the global south.
Ecologically, this has not much of an impact.
You are aware that the stuff that isn't gold is destroyed or thrown into junkyards right?
Now this is a great piece of tech. Congrats team, hope your patents let you capture the US market too.
sasha it should be free for the nations we are dumping our e-waste onto
@@PHlophe perhaps but selling the licenses to government's might be a better idea
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
@@PHlophe Why should one company go through all the huge expense of hiring scientists and technicians, doing the research, the experimentation, and the invention of all the machinery - and then lose out on recouping some of their heavy initial costs by 'giving the technology away'? Can you afford to do something like that?
It's perfectly (and morally) acceptable to either sell or license the technology to other countries. Good thing is, this is a New Zealand company - had it been a greedy US company, the right to buy/license the technology would be many times the cost.
"I wouldnt drink a vial of many things"
same
mostly a thin micron thk. layer is plated on contacts. there are other metals that don't corrode like chromium and nickle but they are harder to plate and have less electrical conductivity.
*vial, but yeah I bet that stuff would be pretty vile.
@@anotherdrummer2 especially gold.
"Vial".
But you will get inoculated with it
I'm so glad they are doing this and taking extreme measures to extract and recycle these rare Earth elements because most of them were ending back in the soil also known as the "land fill or dump"
👍
I've visited a Montreal company called Lavergne that already separates plastics and metals then re extrudes new plastic pellets. They have been doing it for a while and use a water bath, magnets, automatised visual separation, electro static separation.
Exquisite work. Thank you.
@@DigitalAssetsNewsADMIN scam bot
“I tell people not to do this type of work.” That’s so heartbreaking 😢
That metaphore about the tap was so touching bc I flooded by house once
You guys are pioneers probably the best trendsetters that we've had in awhile
holy shit, 1% of all yearly australian electronic waste is actually huge, if they had multiple plants in multiple cities around the world or in different countries, they could actually make a difference
im so interested to learn about this, what should i study? i think biotechnology would be the future of waste processing, but im kinda lost on where to begin
From the start 🌝
Chemical/Mechanical Engineering.
Good luck. And remember...the best way to succeed is to begin!
Biotechnology, sustainable material development and sustainable engineering are gonna be the way for future. My suggestion is go wide ,collect knowledge then specialize
Building off what shyam said, from my experience biochemistry is a good starting point to branch off. You can pivot into the physical sciences side with pure chemistry, materials sciences, chem engineering etc., or into the life sciences side with molecular biology, bioengineering, staying in biochemistry etc. The nice thing is stuff doesn't specialize until a while into your college education, so you have some time to decide which aspects fascinate you the most, or sometimes which ones it turns out you don't like.
Remember - there are many sides to these complex problems, so there are many fields which work together to add their own knowledge in designing solutions. Even those outside science and engineering (e.g. in law or business) can help by making solutions profitable enough to be worth pursuing: you can invent a magic pill that adds 10 years to anyone's life, but if it's too expensive or hard to get, people won't use it and it may as well not exist.
The guy at the end is 100% correct.
Make corporations responsible for the end of life of their products and packaging.
If that were the case, packaging would be biodegradable over night and products would have a sensible means of disposal
That would be disastrous, we don't need to do anything like that, the way we solve this problem is, as a people, demand this from companies, that way the solution would come naturally and stick.
India Also Needs This Mechanism...To Save Environment.... You're Awesome
Love how they included few bits of subtitles to help us understand New Zealandish
Glad that they included subtitles.
I find it hard to understand NZ english accent
@@Emsyaz right with you, even New Zealanders can't understand their accents. LOL :)
I used to do gold plating for a major electronics company. It's interesting stuff.
They are doing a great job and this is the correct way of recycling electronic components.
This video makes me wish I listened during chemistry lessons 🤔
The good thing about XXI century is that you can learn nearly anything online. I recommend CrashCourse RUclips channel. There are Chemistry courses. After that, there are no limits.
Come....let me teach you nirvana.
What did you not understand in the video? They explained everything.
Eggjetly 😂
Its never too late, Who knows, maybe the world was waiting for you to help change our gadget garbage crises
2:28 the guy just said “umph” I see so you’re a man of culture as well.
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?
Thank you for your great contribution to us and the environment.🇨🇦🤜
Reuse and repair of these things is better for the environment
Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?
@@jessicawiley9592 are you talking to me?
Yes where are you from?
@@jessicawiley9592 I am from, and live in Ontario Canada.
The electronic sand reminds me of that time when Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbs) came to his dad crying because he broke his dad's camera. He asked his dad if he could fix it, and his dad reassured him. Of course, just show it to me. Calvin then took out some sand sealed in a plastic bag. Kind of a weird moment, but yeah...
*Illuminatti wants to know your location.*
Have you ever had a wet fart?
"don't sneeze"
New Zealand should share this extraction technology with developing countries, finally, we all are inside the same globe.
Well that is a nice sentiment but who is going to give them back the money they spent for front end R&D?
I work in cosmetics, we use filter press to get the makeup powder out of the water before we dump it into the sewer. Cool to see it used elsewhere.
Copper mines have filter presses big as a 5 storey building
I remember my late grandpa used to own a refrigerator where the cabinets and everything inside is made from metals. It lasted for almost 3 decades. Nowadays the cabinets are mostly flimsy plastics, of "tempered glass" as they dub it. Which they claim as strong but will still break and shatter if you drop it. As result many people buy new fridge because the old one already too broken to use
I make a second hand phone last me up to 5 years for a reasonable price , people litter and create waste way too much we need to clean the planet up and spread the love !
Extracting the Gold and Palladium on its own is probably not financially viable however when you consider the extraction of the copper, tin etc and the cost and environmental damage of current processes it might just be viable. There would still be enormous amounts of waste in the process but at least that waste would be a little less harmful to the environment. The better solution would be putting an end to forced obsolescence and having manufacturers produce products that last longer, are easily repairable by third parties and that when they do eventually reach end of life are readily recyclable.
Very constructive and well thought comment 👏
Exactly! Planned obsolescence is wasteful
It will be hard to tell companies to make a product that will last twice as long as they do now, because that will mean less sales of the product, meaning yearly revenue will decrease, meaning stock holders and investors will dump stock shares when dividends fall below inflation. In a world that depends on a Capitalistic economy, inflationary spiral is the ultimate outcome. An employee in a union demands more pay, the company awards more pay and increases the cost of the company's product to compensate. Now the product costs more and people complain about the high cost of goods. And when do you think this upward spiral will stop and reverse. Never !!!! and you will eventually have a two level country, those who can afford, and those who can not, and those who can not afford will turn to crime to solve their money problems.
@@Alex-kp3hr I'll tackle what you said in reverse order. We unfortunately already have a world of the haves and the have nots. Any real pretense of the majority of the population in most countries being middle class went out the door decades ago. If you wish to see what happens when countries legislate against forced obsolescence check out some of the legislation that's been active in the EU for some years now. All in all its usually more long term cost effective to get a better quality product that is not designed to break after a year or 2. As for companies, they either learn to adapt or stop doing business in that market, I can tell you which option hurts their yearly profits more.
@@hot_wheelz spot on. No argument from me.
It's sad to think that no matter what we do, we're destroying our world by this wastes. I just can't think what will happen in the future
I actually want to get my own scrapping hobby this far because ya know shiny metal but my hardest feat is treating the chemicals after
Not really. The waste chemical first goes into a 5 gallon bucket containing copper pipes. After 2-3 months the liquid is poured into a 2nd bucket containing iron/steel parts. after 2-3 months you take the liquid and change the ph to 7 and then you can safely dispose of it because it is not acidic or alkaline at ph7. it is tap water level. The residue at the bottom of the first bucket will contain any precious metals you missed. The residue at the bottom of the 2nd bucket will contain any copper you missed. Read more about this in the goldrefiningforum waste bucket management.
This is why right to repair is SO IMPORTANT. We deserve to have access to purchase spare parts to repair them or for more complicated things companies should offer instructions to local electronics repair specialists not affiliated with their company
Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?
@@jessicawiley9592 not sure? I'm from Massachusetts
How about you and what is your profession?
All I can say is this better come to the mainstream, I want this to become the norm where all manufacturing for electronics comes from recycled materials from e-waste. Im talking Apple, Intel, Samsung, all the tech compinies. I also want to see local e waste management too so that concurrent e-waste can be recycled. This means that 100% of the flow for materials for new products comes from concurrent e-waste, and as there will be still a flow for e-waste, as we will keep buying and throwing away items. This should be our future instead of landfill and stilly ways of resycling, and I hate that this hasnt become the norm even still in 2022. We also need right to repair so we can repair the items we allready have so we don't have to throw them away.
The problem is having throw away products and fashion. When mega cell phone companies make a new phone every year, what is the incentive to make a product for long term?
When customers eagerly buy phones each year, why bother designing or making a product that lasts longer than that?
Making new phone each year dosent mean that people buy new phone each year(Maybe except a few percent crazy indviduals). Most people especialy now keep their phone for at least 2 to 3(or even longer) years and even then i doubt they Will throw away a perfectly working phone. They Will Just give it to someone or sell(I mean the oldest phone in my family is from 2015 right now and its still working fine and we have even older phone Just In case something happens to the other) .
Bigger problem is the fact that certain companies make it practicly immposible to repair your phone for reasonable price or even at all
Have had my iPhone 7 ever since it was released and it’s working *amazingly* fine. I see absolutely no reason to buy a new phone if my current one is working sufficiently
Just where does the waste chemicals go. And to what extent does this effect the environment if there is a industrial accident spill
you hit the pandora box
They drink it and fart rainbows
this have been answered above
E-waste is a problem and so are the gadgets which are made to break after the warranty ends. It's amazing how the companies making these gadgets have no accountability for the e-waste their products produce.
Thanks for the video
Sometimes i wonder how people get rich at these days.
But people don't believe it's true anyone can make money from home online because of the high rates of scams in the business.
She has been trading for me, her techniques is marvelous, she made me see binary options and forex trade from another angle, I keep making profit monthly.
"How did you lose your job?"
"By microbes."
More like...
"How did you get your new job in ewaste recycling?"
"Microbes"
To really Purify the Gold it takes tons of Chemicals Before it even is smelted into that solid gold. And that's after MINT removed the heavy Metals out of the e-waste. So he's only half way there.
You really don't know the applications of gold. even in jewelry they rarely use it pure.
99% Pure is Pure enough..doesn't take too long
We shouldn't build stuff that we cannot recycle on a 70% at least
There is almost nothing we can´t recycle as of today. The problem is that not every country does enough recycling.
@@fredrikalfson1541 the problem is profitability. If you can't make money doing it, no one is going to do it unless the tax payers are willing to fund it.
@@c.j.1089 By the time recycling becomes cheaper than mining, it will be too late. At best right now, artificially speeding up the viability of recycling by taxing mined raw materials and use that to subsidize recycling research. The cost will of course fall to the end product customer but it would also give more value to old electronics making it worth piling up to sell later on.
Have you seen the movie "Wall-E"? That is what our planet is going to look like unless we get the governments of the world to step up.
This process needs all over the world.
Pure gold those people who does this job
What happened to the other wastes from processing all of the E-waste? How do they dispose of it?
Exactly.
Filler in the burger patties of fast food giants
Does Mint have a website? Stocks? Micro-stocks? I would LOVE to start investing in THIS company.
Yeah, you only need your own recycling land fill 😂
@Alec nolastname thanks friend
Hi
or you cpuld steal electronics from other land fills
Nice to see things getting recycled and not going to waste
@@Ammeo Yeah but it's hard to know if it's economically viable.
I live in bucks county pa and there is the tullytown landfill, I used to work there and I can assure you just at certain levels the silver coins that used to be in regular circulation would probably make it profitable enough but the amount of gold in the whole landfill is probably unimaginable its like 3 man made mountains of trash from the 40s to now.
2:05 you know eventually you could just use sea bead sediments to get the same results like ocean bed soil should be rich in almost all minierals and just drying it out then processing it though a chemical bath to be atrtracted to Seed nodes you could in theory tune it to the monotomic freqency of any alloy i'd assume if someone could figure out the correct method .
Very interesting topic
8:48 "The J.V.M Herbert Memorial Home for Incurable Interns" 😂
I don't really see how this process could be seen as ecologically viable. Getting 150 grams of gold from a metric ton of e-waste is less than .015% by volume (if my math is correct). Unless there was some pretty advanced filtering, you're burning a significant amount of material, releasing plastics, carbon, and toxins into the air for a very small metal recovery rate.
Agreed. Then they have to dispose of the chemicals... im sure they will do it safe in that river by the people
Ye but you give the impression that it's ecologically viable, which are all companies care about.
Most recycling is smoke and mirrors. Extra trucks, using extra fuel and piling the goods in storage yards until they can't sell it and it ends up at the tip; where it would have anyway. Just so we can feel good that we are mindlessly doing something good for the environment.
150 grams a week is roughly 5 Troy ounces or in the neighborhood of $9000-$10000 USD a week and that’s just from the gold not to mention the palladium and copper. If their gross revenue is 15k a week and their operating costs are 1/2 that. It means 4-5 employees splitting like 7k a week for an industry they feel really passionate about.
@@troveteam Hope they're really passionate about burning plastic. You didn't contradict a single thing I said.
This is so interesting! I would never have thought that micro-organisms would have a such a vital part in a procedure like this, I love to see nature being used to help the environment. There are some other really interesting organisms that can help the environment as well. I've seen some research on bacteria that "eat" plastic, which could be huge in helping decrease plastic waste. However, aside from looking at what happens to waste, we should also look at what happens that makes so much waste. Reusing things is such a key part of the "REUSE, REDUCE, RECYCLE" model, and I love that it is so easy. We can often get caught up in getting the next new great thing while forgetting the materials we already have, and keeping them is an easy way to contribute to sustainability.
In case anyone is wondering 150 grams of gold is roughly $9500.00
31.1 grams = 1 troy oz, so that's 4.8 troy oz. Seems about right at the time Allen posted the comment.
Just imagine if Africa had one huge e- waste extractor...
They have enough gold inside the ground to be honest
@@Malek32 Which has been exploited from them by colonialists for 500 years.
and just think of how many Africans would be deprived of being able to get e-waste and eek out a meager living to feed their family. Wouldn't that be fun.
Wait 10 tons per day for a year is only 1% e-waste in Australia?!?!
They´re basically electroplating with circuitboard dust as the Anode?
You know they just used sulphuric acid to leach metals to make copper sulfate which is blue in solution and the other non precious metals salts? The dust/sand is already depleted from non precious metals and is not involed anymore in the electroplating process but gets "eaten/feasted on" by the microbes.
I am proud of Myself, I bought Dell 30 inch Monitor for my computer, about 17 years ago and it is still running perfect. And I have no reason to replace it anytime soon. Dell is a great Company.
good for you. but what will happen when the life of the monitor components start to degrade and your monitor slowly gets darker because your contrast and brightness circuit is failing, or when red lines start to appear across your screen indicating video output failure. Nothing last forever. Monitors usually last 10-20 years.
@@Alex-kp3hr 20 is a long time don't you think
According to me, the 'real gold' to come out of this process is not gold (Au) but copper and the reduction of e-waste. More and more countries should work on this project
Yes because they are not 100% 24 karat gold.
But its far better than destroy our precious mountains and jungles.
And it also get recycled . So
Great video. But do these companies receive any types of subsidies for recycling all this e waste?
Brilliant idea. Goes to show just what a mistake it was sending old electronics abroad in the first place - seeing how valuable metals are recovered over there, by burning. It makes your hair stand on end.
Government should do this process on a mass scale.🙏🙏
F## government
And by government you mean taxpayers correct?
@@redinger44841 so youre not willing to pay to reverse this mistake? because everyone in here uses tech
Tax payers
@@shadowtridentedits The Government is terrible at doing basically anything en mass (besides taking your money) and takes ages to do the small amount of good things it does manage to accomplish. Get the free market on board and it'll take off bigtime and instantly. People need to stop relying on the Government. Vote with your wallets. If you don't like how a company handles things like waste then don't buy their products. Or instead of buying the brand new IPhone every 6 months when they release a new one you buy a used one a few years old instead. It's small sure. But if everyone did that we wouldn't have issues this big in the first place.
The spirit in the sky
25 years that's a long time research Respect to the guy
Businesses be like: Thats nice and all, but how much will this all cost?
it does not matter of how much it costs, the question is "can I make a profit from my cost".
So, his blue coat was made of nano particle gold.
I genuinely love gold😀
So you're literally a "gold digger"🤣
@@suhani551 Yup🤣🤣🤣
I have got the following questions:
1. Do they use bioreactor for bioleaching purpose?
2. Why and how the microbes do the oxidation?
3. What kind of leachate is formed in this case?
4. How the gold-rich ash is purified or refined to retrieve the gold?
#4 answer most likely they will use aquaregia, bleach and hydrogen peroxide, or some other chemical variant.
Now this THIS is revolutionary for taking care of e-Waste and for gold. How do I help this venture?
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I love the concept and the goals of the company its both good for profit as well to cutdown on chemical waste.
This might even be relevent for the company im working at. Afterall since we work and refurbish hardware we end up with tons of E-waste
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great work from our clever neighbours, but as an aussie i had trouble understanding with their accent.