I have both the 30L and their 48L. I like that you can attach them via using the beaver tail connectors, one atop the other. There are a few things I don't like about them. They give you a lot of mounting straps, but no mention of how to use them. Through trial and many errors, I did get the to mount on my R1250GSA with the BMW trunk in place. Another thing I don't like is the backpack straps. For me I would have perfered carrying straps. The backpack straps are useless for me. The outside waterproof zippered pockets are also useless. I find it hard to place a piece of paper in them. The inside stiffer is hard to install. You can get it done, but the stiffener is about 30mm too long. While I agree the vent valve is nice, beware of over tightening it. The cap is rather flimsy and will strip the threads easily. Close it till resistance is felt and no more. For the money I paid, l like them. Like most Lone Rider gear you need to play with them to get your use out of them. Are they perfect? No. But pretty close.
You are not wrong with any of your observations. So on my 30 versus the 48 the buckles are different so I couldn't just switch bags I had to swap straps as well, are yours like that? I never used the back pack straps, and like you would rather had a shoulder strap. Ive switched to test the Mosko gear and currently use that stuff, getting ready for a big trip we will see how it does....Dave
Great vid mate thanks heaps for tha ive been looking for someone to demonstrate how much you can fit in the 30ltr overlander..i wasnt sure if i wanted that or the 48..but after watching you i think the 30ltr will be fine..thankyou
If you only need a back paqck then get a back pack which would be 1/3 the weight .. These are very heavy and very heavy built to withstand being strapped on a Motorcycle
What about if the buckle breaks, the one on the bag that fits on the one on the motorbike? I guess we can't replace them no? Are they sturdy enough for offroad riding?
So I have not had any break and I've used these on several BDR rides, but someone did mention that one broke on them, but as I said it hasn't happened to me....Dave
Excellent matériel en effet, surtout si vous ne l'utilisez que peu ou prou. Remplacer la moindre sangle defectueuse échappe complètement à la notion de service après vente Lone Rider.
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Hey Dave, sorry, my english is so bad, I only can reply in french. En effet, mon expèrience est trop mauvaise. J'ai acheté la gamme complète de bagagerie, en double pour équiper nos deux moto et les deux tentes. Après un an et demi d'utilisation intensive, 50 000 km, de nombreuses boucles plastiques ont été cassées, m'obligeant chaque fois à bricoler pour me dépanner. Octobre 2022 j'ai demandé au SAV Lone Rider de me fournir deux sangles pour les sacs Overlander. Réponse: copiée/collée :"Nous aurions été heureux de vous vendre ces sangles si nous en disposions.Ces dernières étaient vendues à nos clients à chaque fois qu'une problématique similaire à la vôtre se présentait; le stock ayant ainsi été écoulé et ce modèle d'Overlander n'étant plus produit/vendu depuis plus d'un an, les sangles associées ne sont ainsi plus disponibles.Je note la désinscription de votre adresse email à notre newsletter.Bien cordialement, Anna, Lone Rider" You see, Dave, how best things can become an horror. Best regard and ave a good ride.
So you have a coff ?? Cot? Table and Chair ?? Audio echos a lot I understood everything you said except for coff.. That being said .. It's hard to find chairs tables ect small enough to carry on a bike.. I would be interested in what brand / model you are useing..??? Opps I paused the Video to ask what a coff is and then later you said cott several times.. I have a Heavy Monsrisity Cott/ Tent that I can take camping when I drive my 3/4 Ton pickup it's nice to be off from the ground ect... It's simply extreamly heavy and Bulky ..
Easy answer is yes I have and carry all 3. So my Chair is a Helinox, the cot I like the best is the FE active, and the table is also the Helinox brand. I have done videos on all of them. I found a new company that has some small items that I have coming, so I'll be doing reviews on those as well....Hope this helps.....Dave
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Thanks not Familiar with that brand.. The lightest gear is for back packer..s I don't need a cot or maybe don't need a table .. but am looking for a light compact chair.. I will check out all three since they are not that blulky .. I never saw your channel before .. found the link after I opned a Lonerider e-mail .. I have the Lone Rider 45 Liter side bags... Not sure if they even make them anymore.. seems 35 Liter is more popular..
@@KendallAdventureandTravel The chairs are from $70.00 to $200. I like the one for $70. Table $140 don't really need.. A cot for $429.00 they must be crazy .. I guess I better order a chair before they raise the price..
Great question, I wish I Still had the Mosko Moto bag to compare them, but I'll go off memory. I want to say the Mosko Moto bags in general seem thicker, but remember that doesn't really mean stronger or better. I use the Lone Rider bag every day as my travel bag. It is used in my Truck as I travel so not in the elements, but I love the release valve on these bags, so easy to get the trapped air out of them, my nod goes to lone rider on this...Dave
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Thank you for your response. I am flying out west and will rent a bike, so looking to pack in something for the flight, and be able to strap on the bike. The 48 doesn't seem that cumbersom. Do you prefer the small or large? Love your reviews!!!!!
@@jamesbaliko9167 The 48 isn't too big, and depending on what you pack, it leaves room to purchase items? Id go with the larger size over the smaller just for options if it was me. Just because its 48L doesn't mean you have to fill it...Dave
I like your reviews, however, your last review of the 50L Mosko duffel was misleading. that duffel packs a punch and too versatile for me and i ride a 1250 GSA
I have both the 30L and their 48L. I like that you can attach them via using the beaver tail connectors, one atop the other.
There are a few things I don't like about them.
They give you a lot of mounting straps, but no mention of how to use them. Through trial and many errors, I did get the to mount on my R1250GSA with the BMW trunk in place.
Another thing I don't like is the backpack straps. For me I would have perfered carrying straps. The backpack straps are useless for me.
The outside waterproof zippered pockets are also useless. I find it hard to place a piece of paper in them.
The inside stiffer is hard to install. You can get it done, but the stiffener is about 30mm too long.
While I agree the vent valve is nice, beware of over tightening it. The cap is rather flimsy and will strip the threads easily. Close it till resistance is felt and no more.
For the money I paid, l like them. Like most Lone Rider gear you need to play with them to get your use out of them. Are they perfect? No. But pretty close.
You are not wrong with any of your observations. So on my 30 versus the 48 the buckles are different so I couldn't just switch bags I had to swap straps as well, are yours like that? I never used the back pack straps, and like you would rather had a shoulder strap. Ive switched to test the Mosko gear and currently use that stuff, getting ready for a big trip we will see how it does....Dave
Great vid mate thanks heaps for tha ive been looking for someone to demonstrate how much you can fit in the 30ltr overlander..i wasnt sure if i wanted that or the 48..but after watching you i think the 30ltr will be fine..thankyou
Glad the video helped you, the way it matches up size wise to the pannier is great, 48L is too big. Dave.
Thanks. I am getting one to use as a backpack in about 2 weeks. I hope it works
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If you only need a back paqck then get a back pack which would be 1/3 the weight .. These are very heavy and very heavy built to withstand being strapped on a Motorcycle
What about if the buckle breaks, the one on the bag that fits on the one on the motorbike? I guess we can't replace them no? Are they sturdy enough for offroad riding?
So I have not had any break and I've used these on several BDR rides, but someone did mention that one broke on them, but as I said it hasn't happened to me....Dave
Thanks for the video! Very helpful :)
Glad it helped...Dave
Excellent matériel en effet, surtout si vous ne l'utilisez que peu ou prou. Remplacer la moindre sangle defectueuse échappe complètement à la notion de service après vente Lone Rider.
Sounds like your experience wasn't so good?
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Hey Dave, sorry, my english is so bad, I only can reply in french. En effet, mon expèrience est trop mauvaise. J'ai acheté la gamme complète de bagagerie, en double pour équiper nos deux moto et les deux tentes. Après un an et demi d'utilisation intensive, 50 000 km, de nombreuses boucles plastiques ont été cassées, m'obligeant chaque fois à bricoler pour me dépanner. Octobre 2022 j'ai demandé au SAV Lone Rider de me fournir deux sangles pour les sacs Overlander. Réponse: copiée/collée :"Nous aurions été heureux de vous vendre ces sangles si nous en disposions.Ces dernières étaient vendues à nos clients à chaque fois qu'une problématique similaire à la vôtre se présentait; le stock ayant ainsi été écoulé et ce modèle d'Overlander n'étant plus produit/vendu depuis plus d'un an, les sangles associées ne sont ainsi plus disponibles.Je note la désinscription de votre adresse email à notre newsletter.Bien cordialement, Anna, Lone Rider"
You see, Dave, how best things can become an horror. Best regard and ave a good ride.
So you have a coff ?? Cot? Table and Chair ?? Audio echos a lot I understood everything you said except for coff.. That being said .. It's hard to find chairs tables ect small enough to carry on a bike.. I would be interested in what brand / model you are useing..???
Opps I paused the Video to ask what a coff is and then later you said cott several times..
I have a Heavy Monsrisity Cott/ Tent that I can take camping when I drive my 3/4 Ton pickup it's nice to be off from the ground ect... It's simply extreamly heavy and Bulky ..
Easy answer is yes I have and carry all 3. So my Chair is a Helinox, the cot I like the best is the FE active, and the table is also the Helinox brand. I have done videos on all of them. I found a new company that has some small items that I have coming, so I'll be doing reviews on those as well....Hope this helps.....Dave
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Thanks not Familiar with that brand.. The lightest gear is for back packer..s I don't need a cot or maybe don't need a table .. but am looking for a light compact chair.. I will check out all three since they are not that blulky .. I never saw your channel before .. found the link after I opned a Lonerider e-mail ..
I have the Lone Rider 45 Liter side bags... Not sure if they even make them anymore.. seems 35 Liter is more popular..
@@KendallAdventureandTravel The chairs are from $70.00 to $200. I like the one for $70. Table $140 don't really need.. A cot for $429.00 they must be crazy .. I guess I better order a chair before they raise the price..
@@mikeskidmore6754 I have the Lone Rider 38L bags and all my gear fits in them....Dave
What do you like better? Overlander 48 or Mosko Scout duffle? And why? Thank you
Great question, I wish I Still had the Mosko Moto bag to compare them, but I'll go off memory. I want to say the Mosko Moto bags in general seem thicker, but remember that doesn't really mean stronger or better. I use the Lone Rider bag every day as my travel bag. It is used in my Truck as I travel so not in the elements, but I love the release valve on these bags, so easy to get the trapped air out of them, my nod goes to lone rider on this...Dave
@@KendallAdventureandTravel Thank you for your response. I am flying out west and will rent a bike, so looking to pack in something for the flight, and be able to strap on the bike. The 48 doesn't seem that cumbersom. Do you prefer the small or large? Love your reviews!!!!!
@@jamesbaliko9167 The 48 isn't too big, and depending on what you pack, it leaves room to purchase items? Id go with the larger size over the smaller just for options if it was me. Just because its 48L doesn't mean you have to fill it...Dave
What do you use a cot for ?
I am a stomach sleeper...
Does one (or two) helmet fits in the 30l?
Thanks!
I am sure 1 would fit, 2 would im sure but would be tight, guessing....Dave
@@KendallAdventureandTravel thanks for your quick reply! ;)
Givi have air release for all their inner bags - nothing new there. I doubt it was that easy to fit the inner board
Fitting the board isn't tough, from what I remember, Ive never taken them out...Dave
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Once packed, beaver tail in place, it looks pretty ugly
I have never used the beaver tail for anything other than trash, or a wet foot print....Dave
I like your reviews, however, your last review of the 50L Mosko duffel was misleading. that duffel packs a punch and too versatile for me and i ride a 1250 GSA