Suat 36.............Totally agree! It reminds me a lot of his performance as Monsignor Desmond Spellacy in the tragically under-rated 1986 film, 'True Confessions'. I strongly recommend you watch this if you haven't already seen it!
A true master of his craft - totally believable, eyes, words, everything - if he was my Priest I would go to Church more often, just in case my absence upset him!!!!
Beautifully described my friend.. this film haunts yet intrigues me with it’s authenticity of such a scary yet true to life story of how them institutions were
@@boxtieclaimed to be, but it almost certainly isn’t…. No-one has since found any of these people, and also that period in Hell’s Kitchen is quite well known about because there was a notorious Irish organised crime group operating there, who are well known about. The story here doesn’t come up in any of that story, and the figures that lead it were Jimmy Coonan, and Mickey Featherstone. Neither were in youth facilities as children or on trial for anything other than organised crime related stuff. I would think the writer had some intimate knowledge of abuse, and abuse In institutions - whether personal or anecdotal- so that is probably the basis of the truth. No doubt then, in some way, that the story could claim to be true in a lot of ways. But the murder, trial and everything else in the film is almost certainly false, and the people didn’t exist (well, in the way they were depicted anyway)
@@Becks.V. to me, this movie is about the question "what is justice". Is it the law? Is it always unjust to kill? Or can it be justified to do so? By what? How do you decide? How can a priest decide if he can justify lying before god? Should he do so? How can some people decide that the laws don't apply to them? Does it put them on the same level as other criminals? Or are they, by some moral code, even obliged to break some laws? How would you decide? Will Brad Pitts character continue breaking the law and lie for other killers that aren't his friend? Why exactly did he make that exception? What if we all acted like them? So no, to me, not a revenge story.
I find the priest so precise in what he says he doesn't look at those men and see men he looks at the young innocent boys he once knew and like a father should frazes them boys didn't commit this crime which is true cause at heart there childhood was robbed from them such a great film
He did wrong. That does not make him a bad man, but he did do a bad thing. As much as they suffered, I don't think they actually needed him - they manipulated the entire case anyway. Someone like him, I would think he felt guilty for it afterwards, whatever the reason. Not to mention the legal implications. Though in the book, nobody ever did find out about the perjury. They wanted revenge which I understand but they emotionally blackmailed him into lying in court. The purjury could have destroyed his position and standing if it went south. Ironically, if they had told him what happened in the prison when he asked them as kids, he would have bent over backwards to help them.
he let two murderers to be set free on the streets..to commit more murders more crime...and im not talking about the prison guard when calling them murderers...there would be no moral reason for the priest to go there in witness stand to lie.
How this never got the accolade it deserves is criminal. Everything in this movie is great, the casting, the acting, the script, the engaging story, and even the direction
Scene is lost on people that have never had a religious upbringing. A moral man. Deep, pure, pragmatic religious faith. The conflict in his heart - lying on oath - effectively heresy. All done to save the lives of killers, guilty of murder to satisfy revenge. Unbelievable conflict.
Yes but because of it, he must accept that he did wrong by going on the stand and commiting purjury. Their revenge was understandable but they dragged him into it, and he chose to do it out of emotion and guilt. Considering the prosecution was effectively controlling both sides of the case, I don't think they needed him there.
I think the reason Father Bobby did what he did was not only for his boys but to make up for his own traumatic past. Remember earlier in the film when he comes to visit Shakes in Wilkinson's, he tells Shakes about his time there with his friend and how it destroyed his friend and turned him into exactly what it turned John and Tommy into. This was Father Bobby's way of not only saying his two boys but making up for where he failed with his best friend.
Fantastic scene from a fantastic movie. Fantastic *not* in the sense of non-realistic. Fantastic in the sense of powerful and thought-provoking. De Niro could play anybody with the utmost distinction and conviction. In fact, he has.
"But there's a first time for everything." @5:35 to @5:41 is a great intense eye confrontation between De Niro and Pitt. They both knew De Niro was lying but Pitt couldn't do much. Highly recommended movie with great casting.
ive read the book and seen the film, and i for one believe it to be true...i dont know how someone could make up a story as horrific as this unless they have witness it firsthand
Very good sound track background. Like somewhat unreal and surrealistic. You are happy because they are free despite they shouldnt. Bittersweet feeling. De Niro...is any role he does not nail it?
@@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189 yes very true...tho there roles in meet the parents films were less demanding acting wise then in sleepers I suspect. I seen the gag real for the meet the parents films and both these actors looked liked they had a lot of fun making the films. Its full of outtakes where they could not stop breaking character and laughing!!!
Possible plot hole there? The priest comes out of nowhere saying he was with tommy and john that night, but if it really was the case isn't it the first thing tommy and john should have say to the cops? Like, the cops made their case, and no one ever heard the priest story, but now that he tells it everyone just magically believes him?
@@mjkrbjcw I love the film but it is full of plot holes.. Another one is surly as 2 hired hitman with mob connection they would had tracked down on nokes and killed him long before this. Hell he was having dinner in there local pub so he must had lived close!?
Sure, a lawyer could pick that apart but Brad's character was the prosecution lawyer - it was part of the strategy where he can control the events. The biggest so called 'screw-up' was letting the child abuser on the stand and even the judge told him that he had undermined his own case by doing so. But he knew what he was doing. Did cost him his job at the end of it though.
The point is the jury at that time would consider it unthinkable that a priest would lie on the stand....it wasn't so much about the ticket stubs imo....
@@majalovric6920 Exactly! A priest, police officers, care workers, teachers etc would be considered credible witnesses. And there would not be any harsh cross-examination. But I did feel bad for him that he was asked to purger himself. I don't think they actually needed him but his statement sealed the deal.
Briiliant when the guy stood in front of the mirror and smiled he knew he eas going to kill that guard that abused him. It never quite leaves you. Abuse has such long reaching consequences.🇿🇦
Did the ticket stubs have the names on them? Sorry for being daft, just wondering? If there were no names on them, it would be harder to prove the alibi?
Wonder if the book mentions the relationship between Father Bobby and the narrator after the court case. I can only imagine that he never went to see Father Bobby again as penance for such a big ask. Edit: From the book, it doesn't look like they ran into each other again. Shakes is later married with children and Father Bobby becomes the head of the school, still looking after the kids there.
The way he clutched to that copy of "The count of monte cristo" says everything.. I've never watched this movie but I definitely know what I'm going to watch this weekend.. soon as I can find a VCR and a Block Buster 😢😅❤❤ jokes aside 90's movies great cast, moderate budget & even after the cinema you could watch them with royalties paid back to production 😊
Brad Pitt as he finished questioning priest ,he holds tickets up ! As if to say " well thats it they innocent then", Fine actor playing a lawyer acting ha ha . Even though we rooting for John &Tommy , am with Shakes its still sad see a priest lying on the Bible All these years later i still dont know what "boiled Gin " ? is ,which supposedly killed John -Overall though a top film . The revenge scene &courtroom climax worth waiting for
It’s not boiled gin, it’s boiler gin Boiler gin is basically slang for illegal homemade gin. Because it hasn’t gone through the safety regulations like other alcohol products, homemade alcohol can be dangerous to consume if it’s not made correctly. And since John was in the criminal trade, he likely drank homemade liquor from less than reputable sources. Meaning the liquor likely had more hazardous chemicals in it than it should have had. Though it also didn’t help that John was likely an alcoholic and thus succumbed to liver disease as well.
Because Father Bobby had three ticket stubs to prove they were at the game. And the film is set in the 80s the time before CCTV was everywhere so they couldn't prove Father Bobby was lying
great movie, sadly debunked as " wish fulfilment " (apparently the author of the story may have suffered the abuse shown, but there were no revenge killings) Mores the pity.
better for him/her God's punishment is the worst and God is the most just and you can take that to your grave. . . if it happened to my son though. . . I'm not sure how I'd react, but it's not going to be nice
Actually this isn't a true story. This was a big deal back in the 90's when the book came out. Most people, including me, believe that Lorenzo Carcaterra made this story up, along with another book he claims is a true story "A Safe Place" to hype it, like "The Amityville Horror" was done back in the 70's.
5:07 Ok, he shows some stubs and everybody's like uuuhh and aaaahh. But then again, he could've been with anyone at the game, right? How do the stubs relate to Reilly and Marcano in any way? Can someone shine some light in this, are the tickets personalised in any way? But then again, how? I mean they both never went to the game?! And why produce them in the first place when it's all about his word as a priest in the end and nothing else would've been needed to prove his credibility? .... I'm confused. But great scene!
@@serioussilliness2064 He "buys" the tickets a little earlier from Fat Mancho in the store. He asks for cigarettes and gets cigarettes and an envelope and the tickets were in it
So a Priest lied under oath in order to get two mass murdering gangsters off a murder charge? I know the context of the film and the back story but lol are you serious? *They'll shall not bear false witness* is one of the 10 commandments and to break it is a mortal sin.
On the charges of "murder in the first degree" by either of these two gentlemen for having their lives destroyed by a paedophile and killing him for it? How do you plead? NOT FUCKING GUILTY! It's not very democratic or liberal, but fuck it! Neither is abusing young kids who can't defend themselves either.
Like two ticket stubs would get them cleared of first degree murder. They haven't used the father as an alibi and he is testifying a month after the fact. I love this movie but this scene irks me. it's pretty much a fantasy,Carcaterras story is just not very believable.
@@majalovric6920 Even a priest that shows up after very long time and not the next day, like "Listen,I've had to hand out alot of hail Marys,several Our fathers,I had to move perishes to not be associated with some scuzzy colleagues... it's been a busy month. But I just showed up to tell you that THESE TWO BOYS never killed that particular guy that particular evening. How I know? Well,I got these three ticket stubs and me plus them makes three people. You can't refute that. What? Oh,the accused said they were double teaming a Puerto Rican little person at the time of the murder? Okay...but the accused are clearly untrustworthy,bigoted crack heads who shouldn't be trusted. First off, it's called a midget,secondly ,I will gladly go to hypothetical hell for these two based on some vague sense of decency on my part and thirdly, I'm a god damn priest. Case dismissed?" Yeah,he might not be especially doubted but as soon as you ask one follow up question,the whole thing falls apart. A priest being more believable than established facts or lies is pretty baffling. Pitts lawyer phrasing the argument the way he did also felt like a dead giveaway. But as long as we stay away from the whole"A true story",it still works cause of every other aspect except the writing. Like,why is Minnie drivers character such a raging whore and groupie to this gang of severely damaged boys/guys?
he swears on the holly book and lies...if the lord is forgiving and understanding...he understands why he does this...im Catholic and i did some bad shit and did mad jail once....and you something the priest from my church in Seaford ... wrote me and helped a wee bit...i stayed by my beliefs and and still do...and did my 4 years...when i got out of jail...i went looking for farther niven...but hed moved on...but il never forget how he spoke for me too the crown court judge in Lewes.....i got 4 instead of 6 ... iv been out of jail for 9 years now...and im not looking too go back..got daughters and mum and dad and i have too be there for them....Peace
One of the underrated performances of Robert De Niro
Suat 36.............Totally agree! It reminds me a lot of his performance as Monsignor Desmond Spellacy in the tragically under-rated 1986 film, 'True Confessions'. I strongly recommend you watch this if you haven't already seen it!
that one with his father and he was an illiterate cook is pretty underated too.
@@thesoultwins72 ĺ
A true master of his craft - totally believable, eyes, words, everything - if he was my Priest I would go to Church more often, just in case my absence upset him!!!!
@@clubswinger11 Yeah a priest like that might have actually drew me to the church.
When it comes to cast and acting, this is one of the best movies ever.
A very dark yet hauntingly beautiful film. Very underrated 90s movie.
Beautifully described my friend.. this film haunts yet intrigues me with it’s authenticity of such a scary yet true to life story of how them institutions were
I wouldnt say underrated with De Niro, Brad Pitt, Dustin Hoffman, Jason Patric and all these guys
The book is worth the read
Was this film based on true story ?
@@boxtieclaimed to be, but it almost certainly isn’t….
No-one has since found any of these people, and also that period in Hell’s Kitchen is quite well known about because there was a notorious Irish organised crime group operating there, who are well known about.
The story here doesn’t come up in any of that story, and the figures that lead it were Jimmy Coonan, and Mickey Featherstone. Neither were in youth facilities as children or on trial for anything other than organised crime related stuff.
I would think the writer had some intimate knowledge of abuse, and abuse In institutions - whether personal or anecdotal- so that is probably the basis of the truth.
No doubt then, in some way, that the story could claim to be true in a lot of ways. But the murder, trial and everything else in the film is almost certainly false, and the people didn’t exist (well, in the way they were depicted anyway)
F**king outstanding performances by Deniro and Hoffman.
The whole cast, all amazing actor's. Amazing film. . Best revenge story ever 👏
What country do you live in
It's not a revenge story
@@Becks.V. to me, this movie is about the question "what is justice".
Is it the law? Is it always unjust to kill? Or can it be justified to do so? By what? How do you decide? How can a priest decide if he can justify lying before god? Should he do so? How can some people decide that the laws don't apply to them? Does it put them on the same level as other criminals? Or are they, by some moral code, even obliged to break some laws? How would you decide? Will Brad Pitts character continue breaking the law and lie for other killers that aren't his friend? Why exactly did he make that exception? What if we all acted like them?
So no, to me, not a revenge story.
@@p.ellet.1314 so, in other words, for you, this film is about to what you extent revenge justifies our deeds. But it's not a revenge story.
@@25756881 On the surface it definitely is a rape revenge story. At the same time it is about more than that, obviously.
Hoffman was amazing in this film! on the examination of the guard at the end, flawless!
Whoever done the casting for this film deserves credit
Whoever did* / has* done
Who been dun that casting
Ron Eldard’s face when DeNero walked off the stand. Brilliant acting.
Michael's "Thank you, Father" with his look always gives me goosebumps.
Probably the most sincere “thank you” in film history!
One of De Niro's best performances and one of the best movies ever made.
A very powerful film with a fantastic cast.
"First Time for everything"... The Key expression of the dialogue. Great performance
0:35 got that badass and chills feeling seeing Robert de Niro walking in the court. fuck he’s the best
I find the priest so precise in what he says he doesn't look at those men and see men he looks at the young innocent boys he once knew and like a father should frazes them boys didn't commit this crime which is true cause at heart there childhood was robbed from them such a great film
I cant get over Brad Pitt's NY Accent in this movie! OMG its amazing! and mesmerizing. Very Good Movie and Great Acting!
He sinned himself so he could save these boys that were wronged so badly. What a moral dilemma for a man of God...
He did wrong. That does not make him a bad man, but he did do a bad thing. As much as they suffered, I don't think they actually needed him - they manipulated the entire case anyway. Someone like him, I would think he felt guilty for it afterwards, whatever the reason. Not to mention the legal implications. Though in the book, nobody ever did find out about the perjury. They wanted revenge which I understand but they emotionally blackmailed him into lying in court. The purjury could have destroyed his position and standing if it went south. Ironically, if they had told him what happened in the prison when he asked them as kids, he would have bent over backwards to help them.
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@@spinmaster0 “Child Rapist”
he let two murderers to be set free on the streets..to commit more murders more crime...and im not talking about the prison guard when calling them murderers...there would be no moral reason for the priest to go there in witness stand to lie.
@@spinmaster0in any case, I’m not God and I don’t judge them
The subtle background sounds really add to the atmosphere.
How this never got the accolade it deserves is criminal. Everything in this movie is great, the casting, the acting, the script, the engaging story, and even the direction
A haunting film but drama and courtroom tension at its best. I put this up there with a few good men As one of the best courtroom scenes of all time.
A true masterpiece
I love this film. The cast did an outstanding work
sleepers and city of god are 2 of the greatest movies of all times
Di Niro killed it, in this movie
De Niro. His Italian great grandparents changed the spelling of their surname when they moved to America.
i remember watching this at the cinema in 1997... superb film
Robert de Niro is a fuking amazing actor who agrees with me
I love him!!
@@MmM-do6rg your beautiful what country do you live in I would like to chat to you I live in England
Greatest of all time
Aman
No one is close to De Niro I said no one!
@@Gma00001 exactly👌👏👏👏👏
Scene is lost on people that have never had a religious upbringing.
A moral man. Deep, pure, pragmatic religious faith.
The conflict in his heart - lying on oath - effectively heresy.
All done to save the lives of killers, guilty of murder to satisfy revenge.
Unbelievable conflict.
Yes but because of it, he must accept that he did wrong by going on the stand and commiting purjury. Their revenge was understandable but they dragged him into it, and he chose to do it out of emotion and guilt. Considering the prosecution was effectively controlling both sides of the case, I don't think they needed him there.
Once Upon a time in America was another great film he was great in that
Magnificent! Everything you ever want to know about acting is there in that scene
Great film great acting
Yeah
I only watched it once that was enough disturbing movie. I forgot how many big names appeared in it.
I was shocked to see one of Italys' no.1 actor star in this film.... Vittorio Gassman....
why shocked?
This film is fuking amazing one of my favourite all time movies great film
I think the reason Father Bobby did what he did was not only for his boys but to make up for his own traumatic past. Remember earlier in the film when he comes to visit Shakes in Wilkinson's, he tells Shakes about his time there with his friend and how it destroyed his friend and turned him into exactly what it turned John and Tommy into. This was Father Bobby's way of not only saying his two boys but making up for where he failed with his best friend.
this movie is amazing
Fantastic scene from a fantastic movie. Fantastic *not* in the sense of non-realistic. Fantastic in the sense of powerful and thought-provoking. De Niro could play anybody with the utmost distinction and conviction. In fact, he has.
"But there's a first time for everything." @5:35 to @5:41 is a great intense eye confrontation between De Niro and Pitt. They both knew De Niro was lying but Pitt couldn't do much. Highly recommended movie with great casting.
Marvellous film love it
ive read the book and seen the film, and i for one believe it to be true...i dont know how someone could make up a story as horrific as this unless they have witness it firsthand
MichelleW293 not sure if you're being serious? please tell me you're joking
There was an institution in Florida if i am not wrong that mistreated boys.
It’s a great story but all made up. They not heard of cctv.
Perfectly casted movie
... cast* (present tense = past tense)
Grandissimo film!Cast eccezionale!
Very good sound track background. Like somewhat unreal and surrealistic. You are happy because they are free despite they shouldnt. Bittersweet feeling. De Niro...is any role he does not nail it?
it is a credit to RDN that he plays a priest in a film about sex abuse and he never once looks or sounds anyway dodgy
Someone hire a jazz drummer!
A witness can enter new physical evidence into a court case during a cross examination?
if the witness is robert de niro
poetic license.
Curious yes
Yes if u have moooooooneeeeeey
Good point, and that is up to the other lawyer to dismiss. But seeing as everybody is playing on the same side...
One of my favorite pictures
Jason Patrick was awesome in this movie!
Looks like the dads from Meet the Fockers.
Lol great actor's playing completely different characters. Its Hard to believe they are the same actors.
Hahahaha I just realised
@@donnn-sg4mk its called an incredible acting,my friend
@@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189 yes very true...tho there roles in meet the parents films were less demanding acting wise then in sleepers I suspect. I seen the gag real for the meet the parents films and both these actors looked liked they had a lot of fun making the films. Its full of outtakes where they could not stop breaking character and laughing!!!
Possible plot hole there? The priest comes out of nowhere saying he was with tommy and john that night, but if it really was the case isn't it the first thing tommy and john should have say to the cops? Like, the cops made their case, and no one ever heard the priest story, but now that he tells it everyone just magically believes him?
The right to remain silent...?
@@cynicaloptimist970 but if you fail now to mention something you might rely on in court
Michael Moretti you don’t stay silent when you have an alibi you divvy 😂
@@mjkrbjcw I love the film but it is full of plot holes.. Another one is surly as 2 hired hitman with mob connection they would had tracked down on nokes and killed him long before this. Hell he was having dinner in there local pub so he must had lived close!?
I guess the fact he is a priest has something to do with it...He swore on the holy bible..he showed the tickets as well..
such a great film. don't seem to make 'em like that anymore
The guy who wrote this was one of the boys...
All the ticket stubs prove is that he bought the tickets. They don't prove John and Tommy were at the game with him. Good movie, though.
That is true. And brad pitt could've said something to counter that, but of course he wouldn't. I don't blame him.
Sure, a lawyer could pick that apart but Brad's character was the prosecution lawyer - it was part of the strategy where he can control the events. The biggest so called 'screw-up' was letting the child abuser on the stand and even the judge told him that he had undermined his own case by doing so. But he knew what he was doing. Did cost him his job at the end of it though.
The point is the jury at that time would consider it unthinkable that a priest would lie on the stand....it wasn't so much about the ticket stubs imo....
@@majalovric6920 Exactly! A priest, police officers, care workers, teachers etc would be considered credible witnesses. And there would not be any harsh cross-examination. But I did feel bad for him that he was asked to purger himself. I don't think they actually needed him but his statement sealed the deal.
bein a true stort makes this great this is one of my fav scenes of all time, behing the revenge scene earlier in the movie.
Art replicating life hey bobby
Briiliant when the guy stood in front of the mirror and smiled he knew he eas going to kill that guard that abused him. It never quite leaves you. Abuse has such long reaching consequences.🇿🇦
Now let's go get some hot dogs.
Sleeprs , Enemy of the state (R. I. P. Will) , Fallen (the one with denzel washington),
Those are some real under rated movies.
What a movie
Sometimes the right thing to do and the best thing to do are two different things.
you'll never beat the celtics
Did the ticket stubs have the names on them? Sorry for being daft, just wondering? If there were no names on them, it would be harder to prove the alibi?
It was the 80's, back then you didn't order personal tickets the way you do today through internet etc.
The film was set from the 60s to the 80s
No, it just strenghtens his story.
Plus the prosecutor were on their side, he is a lifelong friend of the defendants and the priest and everything was part of a bigger plot
The point is the jury believed father Bobby since it was unthinkable at that time that a priest could give false testimony....
Wonder if the book mentions the relationship between Father Bobby and the narrator after the court case. I can only imagine that he never went to see Father Bobby again as penance for such a big ask.
Edit: From the book, it doesn't look like they ran into each other again. Shakes is later married with children and Father Bobby becomes the head of the school, still looking after the kids there.
The way he clutched to that copy of "The count of monte cristo" says everything.. I've never watched this movie but I definitely know what I'm going to watch this weekend.. soon as I can find a VCR and a Block Buster 😢😅❤❤ jokes aside 90's movies great cast, moderate budget & even after the cinema you could watch them with royalties paid back to production 😊
Hoffman stole the show
He would’ve made a great Frank Costello.
Great movie.
Brad Pitt as he finished questioning priest ,he holds tickets up !
As if to say
" well thats it they innocent then",
Fine actor playing a lawyer acting ha ha .
Even though we rooting for John &Tommy , am with Shakes its still sad see a priest lying on the Bible
All these years later i still dont know what "boiled Gin " ? is ,which supposedly killed John -Overall though a top film .
The revenge scene &courtroom climax worth waiting for
It’s not boiled gin, it’s boiler gin
Boiler gin is basically slang for illegal homemade gin. Because it hasn’t gone through the safety regulations like other alcohol products, homemade alcohol can be dangerous to consume if it’s not made correctly. And since John was in the criminal trade, he likely drank homemade liquor from less than reputable sources. Meaning the liquor likely had more hazardous chemicals in it than it should have had.
Though it also didn’t help that John was likely an alcoholic and thus succumbed to liver disease as well.
Probably home brewed alcohol
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why wasn't he like 'how do we know you were at the game with those boys?'
Because Father Bobby had three ticket stubs to prove they were at the game. And the film is set in the 80s the time before CCTV was everywhere so they couldn't prove Father Bobby was lying
I'm surprised that the good Father saw anything wrong with young boys getting buggered
They don't make them like this anymore.
why have I never seen this movie ?
Best of de Niro
De Niro is king
@lupoistheman1 there in "meet the fochers" aswell arent they????
Wrong. It was proven NOT to be a true story but I am sure there wee many kids who wee abused like the ones in this story.
Danny Snyder is the best character in this movie
I have to go Fat Mancho mane, foget aboutit.
I would like to know which drug he took
@@amina-pr8xt I think the question is: Which one not? 😂
This is one of Pits few good performances beacause he's actually forced to act and not just go by his face
you are stupid.
You guys are responding to a 7 year old comment.
You must be pretty stupid tbh
@Anton Crowley Yeah, Seven, Fight Club, California, River runs trough, Snatch, Assasination of Jesse James, Benjamin Button etc... Yeah, shitty...
@@jackfahy2283 true
Brad Pitt is a very very underrated actor.fight club,sleepers,seven,once upon a time in Hollywood,inglorious bastards,snatch.really good actor 👍🏼👍🏼
Some actors 👍👍👍👍👍
Between this and a Bronx tale, Hollywood missed it.
The hypocrisy of De Niro being in a film about child predators when he's one himself.
How?
@@Asnt0 *1998 Paris. He was arrested in a bordello along with the 14 year old girl he was with.*
Used to love deniro,loved his acting. Can't take anything he says or does now seriously.
great movie, sadly debunked as " wish fulfilment " (apparently the author of the story may have suffered the abuse shown, but there were no revenge killings)
Mores the pity.
better for him/her God's punishment is the worst and God is the most just and you can take that to your grave. . . if it happened to my son though. . . I'm not sure how I'd react, but it's not going to be nice
What about the bar full of witnesses who actually watched them shoot him. ?
They couldn't remember anything after they were visited by King Benny.
And the only remaining witness was dismantled by Snyder with Michael's help!
Actually this isn't a true story. This was a big deal back in the 90's when the book came out. Most people, including me, believe that Lorenzo Carcaterra made this story up, along with another book he claims is a true story "A Safe Place" to hype it, like "The Amityville Horror" was done back in the 70's.
Actually who tf knows
Seriously? Will you tell me De Niro is not the gangster?
I delight to do your will ,o my God,And Your law is within my heart.psalm 40:8
Cram it churchy
There's a first time for anything...
5:07 Ok, he shows some stubs and everybody's like uuuhh and aaaahh. But then again, he could've been with anyone at the game, right? How do the stubs relate to Reilly and Marcano in any way? Can someone shine some light in this, are the tickets personalised in any way? But then again, how? I mean they both never went to the game?! And why produce them in the first place when it's all about his word as a priest in the end and nothing else would've been needed to prove his credibility? .... I'm confused. But great scene!
Where did e get the tickets from is what I ponder but I guess it isn't too difficult for such influences
@@serioussilliness2064 Its hollywood 🤷♂️
The point is at that time the jury would have belived anything he says since it would be considered unimmaginable for a priest under oath to lie....
@@serioussilliness2064 He "buys" the tickets a little earlier from Fat Mancho in the store. He asks for cigarettes and gets cigarettes and an envelope and the tickets were in it
So a Priest lied under oath in order to get two mass murdering gangsters off a murder charge? I know the context of the film and the back story but lol are you serious? *They'll shall not bear false witness* is one of the 10 commandments and to break it is a mortal sin.
They were murderers, not "mass murderers", "mass" means far more than one victim.
Yes.
On the charges of "murder in the first degree" by either of these two gentlemen for having their lives destroyed by a paedophile and killing him for it? How do you plead? NOT FUCKING GUILTY!
It's not very democratic or liberal, but fuck it! Neither is abusing young kids who can't defend themselves either.
He lies to save the kids
Like two ticket stubs would get them cleared of first degree murder. They haven't used the father as an alibi and he is testifying a month after the fact.
I love this movie but this scene irks me. it's pretty much a fantasy,Carcaterras story is just not very believable.
The point is at that time nobody would question a priest on the stand and his word under oath would be enough.....
@@majalovric6920 Even a priest that shows up after very long time and not the next day, like "Listen,I've had to hand out alot of hail Marys,several Our fathers,I had to move perishes to not be associated with some scuzzy colleagues... it's been a busy month. But I just showed up to tell you that THESE TWO BOYS never killed that particular guy that particular evening. How I know? Well,I got these three ticket stubs and me plus them makes three people. You can't refute that. What? Oh,the accused said they were double teaming a Puerto Rican little person at the time of the murder? Okay...but the accused are clearly untrustworthy,bigoted crack heads who shouldn't be trusted. First off, it's called a midget,secondly ,I will gladly go to hypothetical hell for these two based on some vague sense of decency on my part and thirdly, I'm a god damn priest. Case dismissed?"
Yeah,he might not be especially doubted but as soon as you ask one follow up question,the whole thing falls apart. A priest being more believable than established facts or lies is pretty baffling. Pitts lawyer phrasing the argument the way he did also felt like a dead giveaway.
But as long as we stay away from the whole"A true story",it still works cause of every other aspect except the writing. Like,why is Minnie drivers character such a raging whore and groupie to this gang of severely damaged boys/guys?
De Niro is not nearly as good as he used to be.
Watch the irishman. 2019. The phone call scene ...De Niro will always be superb.
@@izievalo6319the whole film is ridiculous - an old fart pretending to be 35
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he swears on the holly book and lies...if the lord is forgiving and understanding...he understands why he does this...im Catholic and i did some bad shit and did mad jail once....and you something the priest from my church in Seaford ... wrote me and helped a wee bit...i stayed by my beliefs and and still do...and did my 4 years...when i got out of jail...i went looking for farther niven...but hed moved on...but il never forget how he spoke for me too the crown court judge in Lewes.....i got 4 instead of 6 ... iv been out of jail for 9 years now...and im not looking too go back..got daughters and mum and dad and i have too be there for them....Peace
Pointless anyway as the two men soon die!
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Hmm.... that's pretty heavy! But I'm pretty sure God would understand it.......or actually I'm not sure, but I hope God would understand it
If God cannot understand that following the rules is not synonymous with doing the right thing then we truly have no need for God anymore
@@HeatyFrog You didnt understand nothing but a lot of people didnt 🤷♂️
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