1,5 millions french soldiers killed in ww1 trenches... for a 40 millions country, that was a lot. Still british and american medias act like they were more important than french in ww1 😮💨
@@Jean-PierreRomarin 😂 Even with all the videos you can find on the Internet, you will not fully understand how the war is being waged in the trenches now, BUT with the use of new technologies. The fact that you have experience is good. Increase your army, train your soldiers. But not like here... in beautiful trenches that are upholstered with wood to keep them in shape and look good. Do it for real.
"A type of combat that we need to familiarise ourselves with, a type of combat that we'll be able to use as NATO troops *but also one we will likely face in the coming years*". NATO knows what's coming. The people of the free world would do well to listen.
Nato knows that if Ukraine falls we will see more and more aggression and foaming off the mouth of Putin that Poland is historically Russia and he needs to free the Warsaw Peoples Republic from Western bombing
This is quite scarily extremely relevant, as the Russo-Ukrainian War has indeed devolved into trench warfare. The thing is, even if we re-run the world like a simulation, at some point, technology will force us into a massive trench-reliant conflict for a few years, and then technology will end it just like it started. trench warfare is an inevitable phase in history, however it will not happen only once, as seen in the Iranian-Iraqi War. And I believe that trench warfare has returned for another phase. People always like to talk about how useless and terrible trench tactics were- but if that were the case, trench warfare would be an impossibility. The reason World War 1 became a trench war was because trench tactics were POWERFUL and near-impossible to defeat. As such, a tactic that has proved itself once, to be disproved later, will be forgotten and the one who brings it back will use it the best.
I 100% agree with your analysis. Trenches are incredibly powerful. Sucks it's going to be our generation to work though it but trench warfare is looking to be the norm for the next few decades
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 I actually would prefer it, one day in the future I think it won't be france, germany but like all one country with for example the region franc, belgium and so on. I would love to see that coming but I think this will need a little bit more time
More like it's back now that we've seen when 2 sides have similar technology it just goes down to trench warfare again, similar to how ancient armies always returned to phalanx formations
@@Zitoune1954it is simple to protect trenches from drones observation : just put a camo tent over trenches, cost nothing and the drone will see nothing behind it
Unfortunately sometimes you don't have the luxury to avoid it. At the end of the day, not even the WW1 nations wanted to get stuck in trench warfare, there simply wasn't a viable way out of it. The same in Ukraine right now.
Just merely replace modern combat uniforms and gear with Brodie helmets and bolt action rifles, and making the video black and white, you immediately have an authentic documentary film from WWI!
Sure , millions of flea infested rats and cockaroaches in all the trenches add to that they are flooded with putred water and its in the teens cold . Have a pleasant stay.
I'm from Russia, BUT I'm against any war. First, you have to realize that Ukraine has so many agricultural fields. As the border between them we see so called "tree line". That's the main reason why you see so much of trench war as it was in WWI because the only place where you can put your troops is that narrow tree line. Obviously, in these tree lines you see complexity of trenches and dugouts. Second moment. I saw 🇪🇪Estonian flag, which is good in the sence that criminal putin, if he sees less inity in the collective West, could turn his seek eyes on Baltic states and or Moldova. Third. Sweden is behind Finland, so Swedish people could relax, criminal putin is 72 years old, so he won't make it till the war with Sweden even if he dreams about which i really doubt, because in war against Finland is a disaster in terms of time and casualties, especially killed by MR. Cold. Train as smart and hard as you can anyway because putin is not a suicidal type of guy. He lives in luxury and doesn't want to die. Forth. Just for the record. When you move through the trench especially in big number, in this war it's more than two soldiers, you should control the air, overwise you could miss a drone with drop or, which is more lethal, kamikaze FPV drone. Train wise.
All nato members in this channel speak their language with english sub but i think that they all know some english, and however if you search NATO in Wikipedia you will see that the official languages are English and French.
Seems to me like they need to improve the old battle drills on trench warfare. They needs to add new schools tactics or they aren't training for a real world battle. They need to have dozens on dozens of grenades, a drones providing intelligence on enemy positions, and comms with the operators. Those are just a few needed implementations. They needs drone operators harassing the entrenched enemy and much more. NATO needs to learn before they get people killed.
the orange tip means it has a blank firing adapter on it. Blanks are significantly quieter than normal rounds, especially through a supressor. so no, not really.
Trench warfare didn't fall out of use, it's just only useful in conventional warfare, and until Ukraine there hadn't been a conventional war that lasted more than a few weeks since Korea.
Why all of them are in low ready positions?? Specially all those who covering the back or 2nd numbers? They’ll shot 1st number for sure at some moment.
while its great that NATO soldiers keep training and learning to fight all environments, we need to understand why warfare like this is happening in Ukraine. Both sides are too weak to push and perform any significant attacks. Its also caused by not sufficent counter-battery fire, no usage of air support in any significant way and unable to fully benefit from the support of AFV's. War with NATO would have to go really bad to the point that they also have to restrain to tactics like this
It's all about momentum. If we can pull off what we did in Iraq and the middle east then sure we could make it happen . The Iraq army was large and similarly equipped. We also faced a lot of open terrain like Ukraine.However, the Russian army is larger, has more experienced crews and updated versions of equipment, more production capacity, and a much greater air defense and air force . As it stands if we declare war now and launch an assault in Ukraine we have ONE shot . After that we'll loose the momentum having to replace equipment and men and our lack of supplies and reserves . Sure we may have the navy and air force to gain the upper hand in those battles and they will provide us support and allow us to push forward but we'd be facing what the Russians are now . They completely outnumber Ukraine on the ground and in the air but they still can't achieve the breakthrough that we'd also be looking for in their situation. Drones , missiles , mines , and hand held munitions have changed the game . Soldiers in trenches are effective again and honestly safer than mobile or mech-inf in a drawn out engagement. Speed is no longer enough to ensure victory and we're resorting to heavy armour and earth once again for defense . Many thought the future would see the end of heavy infantry use ,the death of the riflemen , how wrong we were .
The Russians as a rule are also very stout defenders due to their beliefs and callous nature toward death . Sure sometimes they collapse but when they get their shit together especially with their layered defences they become a real threat . As we seen in the south last summer . The layers of mines , barbed wire , tank ditches , dragons teeth , trenches , and dugouts spread over an area up to 50km deep in some spots was enough to slow us down and let the Russians real pride their artillery go to work on us . After those first few days , even hours it was over . We lost momentum
We need heavy training in trench warfare and infantry combat . We also need to boost our production in all NATO countries 10 fold . Ifvs , tanks, planes, artillery ammunition, new infantry weapons with a larger caliber for trench fighting and defeating body armor. We have a lot of work to do that should have started two years ago or better yet in 2014 when we seen it coming . I believe in us and our alliance but if we're not realistic and call ourselves out and credit the effective moves of the enemy we won't prepare , and we will struggle in the coming Storm . I'm loving that NATO is waking up finally
Les tranchées en Ukraine sont souvent faîtes dans la précipitation, donc sans le temps d'avoir de très bonnes tranchées. Mais si tu fais une recherche tu verras que les Ukrainiens font les mêmes tranchés que celle de l'OTAN lorsqu'ils les font sur des lignes reculés pour se préparer pour de futur grande offensive Russe.
is good to take all the scenarios, but Ukraine is a trench warfare because their terrain is plane... they don't have mountains, big forests except Kreminna, etc... and both bands don't have air superiority... i have my doubts in case of a conflict between Russia and NATO that could end in this kind of war.
et ouais, ca fais changement que une guerre non-conventionnel (afghanistan, syrie etc), on n'a pas d'experience en combat de trencher depuis la fin de la WW1 donc mieux commencer a s'entrainer a ce type de combat (encore) car ca va etre le plus utiliser pour une VRAI guerre
Trench warfare doesn't make sense, sure, you have to know how to build trenches, defend them, and how to take over the enemy's trenches, but in real combat, taking over the enemy's trenches doesn't make sense. an attacking force could lose more than 50 percent of its troops in less than 10 minutes just because of a mine trap.
Because the trenches they are training in are 3 times as wide as the real trenches they will be fighting in. 60 pound shield isnt easy to carry around...
Is it a part if training to have them folded or under water? Because training in extrem conditions will make real situations easier. If you look even to Ukraine, they're standing in freezing water both RU and UA. So I think it's best to train in storms while you fight in the rain
Trench warfare only exists because neither Russia nor Ukraine has adequate access to air power. This is, frankly, pointless for a NATO army, unless what you're planning is to clear Russian trenches in the Donbas.
Well NATO was supposed to be a military alliance to counter aggressive imperialist countries like Russia. Russia is does not have an extraordinary military, they have survived against invasions because of the climate and their defensive tactics. In a war against NATO history will repeat itself and NATO needs to be prepared for Russian defensive tactics, while air superiority and support will be much easier We shouldn’t assume that simply because NATO could dominate the air that it would swiftly win the war. Combined arms and tactics are necessary
I find it extremely important even more so for troops stationned on the borders with a possible enemy, in peace time it's not possible to put a large amount of forces in those countries, the guys there would have to hold until reinforcements arrive
I would underestimate the russian army. The russian army underestimated the Ukrainian army and got stuck in trench warfare. The same thing can happen with NATO, as of course there will be a conflict between them, or between China and NATO, who knows
Ts funny people don’t have a clue ts in Ukraine is large scale combined arms positional warfare in Europe and yk it’s not just trenches there’s hard fortifications concrete bunkers shelters basements dugouts strongholds defensive belts and it’s about 20 or 30% modern all ts Ukraine is not flat the terrain is crazy theres high ground and low ground and so on.😂☠️
Trench warfare is not so relevant if one side has air superiority, which NATO absolutely would. The only reason it's happening in Ukraine is neither side has the ability to dominate the skies.
1) China has pretty capable air defenses NATO would not be able to just do whatever they want without decent risk to their aircraft/pilots. 2) When an aircraft is firing missiles or dropping bombs etc. you definitely have a much higher chance of survival if you're dug into a trench than just out in the open.
@bestieswithtesties china does have capable air defenses but against the full nato airforce and navy? Even it would take all the air defense systems from russia and china combined to stop them from achieving air superiority.
The history of trench warfare begins in ancient times, but modern trench warfare really started in the 16th century (siege of Vienna) with huge modernizations in the 19th century (Crimean War). During all this time until today, trench warfare was never gone, only sometimes more or less useful in a given scenario. So it's not unique to Ukraine.
that's crazy they're training trench warfare, never thought it would come back
Even crazier is that it never really left
I saw manny vids with trench battles in ukraine terrible
This is the only way to fight real war
It never went away. Been here the whole time.
With new technology and missile strikes I think it was bound to return
well french have known trench warfare for a long time
It's changed look at Ukraine
1,5 millions french soldiers killed in ww1 trenches... for a 40 millions country, that was a lot.
Still british and american medias act like they were more important than french in ww1 😮💨
Oui nous avons de l'expérience.
@@Jean-PierreRomarin 😂
Even with all the videos you can find on the Internet, you will not fully understand how the war is being waged in the trenches now, BUT with the use of new technologies. The fact that you have experience is good. Increase your army, train your soldiers. But not like here... in beautiful trenches that are upholstered with wood to keep them in shape and look good. Do it for real.
@@Jean-PierreRomarinHelas la generation actuelle manque d'experience
"A type of combat that we need to familiarise ourselves with, a type of combat that we'll be able to use as NATO troops *but also one we will likely face in the coming years*". NATO knows what's coming. The people of the free world would do well to listen.
Nato knows that if Ukraine falls we will see more and more aggression and foaming off the mouth of Putin that Poland is historically Russia and he needs to free the Warsaw Peoples Republic from Western bombing
❤Congrats Sweden😊. Very soon my brothers and sisters you will join us to NATO❤.All the best and love from Finland ❤
NATO Forever ! ruzzia Never !
Vive l'OTAN !!!
@@Jean-PierreRomarin Vive la France!
This is quite scarily extremely relevant, as the Russo-Ukrainian War has indeed devolved into trench warfare. The thing is, even if we re-run the world like a simulation, at some point, technology will force us into a massive trench-reliant conflict for a few years, and then technology will end it just like it started. trench warfare is an inevitable phase in history, however it will not happen only once, as seen in the Iranian-Iraqi War. And I believe that trench warfare has returned for another phase. People always like to talk about how useless and terrible trench tactics were- but if that were the case, trench warfare would be an impossibility. The reason World War 1 became a trench war was because trench tactics were POWERFUL and near-impossible to defeat. As such, a tactic that has proved itself once, to be disproved later, will be forgotten and the one who brings it back will use it the best.
I 100% agree with your analysis. Trenches are incredibly powerful. Sucks it's going to be our generation to work though it but trench warfare is looking to be the norm for the next few decades
Free Ukraine
From what? It's been independent since The 90s
@@Ussonan-Foderation2016 From russian occupation since 2014. While the russian fascists are invading our country we will never be free.
@@Ussonan-Foderation2016 Free them from an attacking Putler, unless you've been asleep for the last 2 years.
Thank you from Czech Republic 🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿
Trenches are war hell ! Good thing to train it
Makes me proud to be part of these countries. I would give anything to not be a quadriplegic and join these warriors.
in the trenches. we chill
Absolut klasse 💪🏻👍🏻
We all need each other if we hope to survive. The west must prevail. Sending support from Great Britain 🇬🇧 I’m 21 so it’s a scary prospect for me
Мне 18 и весной я отправляюсь добровольно воевать против большевизма русских
Free peoples of the West must stand united.
Well the Finns did fight a trench warfare in WWII and have been training for it ever since, so...
Same with america on the islands Japan took so that will also help
Everyone in WWII made use of foxholes, trenches and other types of dugouts.
The Mannerheim Line indeed
@@colegilbert673 That was in the Winter War, there were trenches for half the front, Finland had over 2.5 years of trench warfare.
NATO should have one type of uniform, in wartime conditions there may be a problem with recognition.
No. That would infringe on national military identity. NATO is an alliance of nations, not a single military.
Agree, but it is difficult to adapt in different areas of the home lands. The design could be the same but not all colours i guess.
We are NATO. We know where the troops are. Only Russia is plain stupid
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 I actually would prefer it, one day in the future I think it won't be france, germany but like all one country with for example the region franc, belgium and so on. I would love to see that coming but I think this will need a little bit more time
Just use colored tapes and armbands. Save money, live better.
The trenches need more obstacles inside!
Glory to Ukraine
I'm surprised that trench warfare is still practiced in the 2020s!!!
More like it's back now that we've seen when 2 sides have similar technology it just goes down to trench warfare again, similar to how ancient armies always returned to phalanx formations
It's seen a massive resurgence in the Ukraine conflict.
If your training for trench warfare you need to learn to avoid,and attack drones
@@Zitoune1954it is simple to protect trenches from drones observation : just put a camo tent over trenches, cost nothing and the drone will see nothing behind it
Unfortunately sometimes you don't have the luxury to avoid it. At the end of the day, not even the WW1 nations wanted to get stuck in trench warfare, there simply wasn't a viable way out of it. The same in Ukraine right now.
Those are luxury trenches no mud no dead bodies pretty much airsoft. Have you seen the real trenches?
But angles and shootings lines are same, so it's still a good train.
thank you
Proud NATO supporter
Vì tổ quốc và danh dự. Những người lính NATO, Chiến đấu quên mình.. OK 👍👍.
Just merely replace modern combat uniforms and gear with Brodie helmets and bolt action rifles, and making the video black and white, you immediately have an authentic documentary film from WWI!
Sure , millions of flea infested rats and cockaroaches in all the trenches add to that they are flooded with putred water and its in the teens cold . Have a pleasant stay.
don’t forget to look up for drones
I'm from Russia, BUT I'm against any war. First, you have to realize that Ukraine has so many agricultural fields. As the border between them we see so called "tree line". That's the main reason why you see so much of trench war as it was in WWI because the only place where you can put your troops is that narrow tree line. Obviously, in these tree lines you see complexity of trenches and dugouts.
Second moment. I saw 🇪🇪Estonian flag, which is good in the sence that criminal putin, if he sees less inity in the collective West, could turn his seek eyes on Baltic states and or Moldova.
Third. Sweden is behind Finland, so Swedish people could relax, criminal putin is 72 years old, so he won't make it till the war with Sweden even if he dreams about which i really doubt, because in war against Finland is a disaster in terms of time and casualties, especially killed by MR. Cold.
Train as smart and hard as you can anyway because putin is not a suicidal type of guy. He lives in luxury and doesn't want to die.
Forth. Just for the record. When you move through the trench especially in big number, in this war it's more than two soldiers, you should control the air, overwise you could miss a drone with drop or, which is more lethal, kamikaze FPV drone.
Train wise.
We are NATO 🇪🇺🇺🇸
Why does it seem like only the Americans train in the worst conditions? I was expecting a mud filled trench and terrible weather
People who know WWI history: "O no."
Doesn‘t he speak fluent english as an NATO Officer?
French is one of the two working languages of NATO
All nato members in this channel speak their language with english sub but i think that they all know some english, and however if you search NATO in Wikipedia you will see that the official languages are English and French.
French is one of the two official NATO languages and you need to be fluent in only of them.
Dude, he is French 🤣😂
@@Zitoune1954fluent to give basic instructions
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scary that nato thought trench warfare was out of fashion
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The French knows 2 or 3 things about war, watch Russia
Seems to me like they need to improve the old battle drills on trench warfare. They needs to add new schools tactics or they aren't training for a real world battle. They need to have dozens on dozens of grenades, a drones providing intelligence on enemy positions, and comms with the operators. Those are just a few needed implementations. They needs drone operators harassing the entrenched enemy and much more. NATO needs to learn before they get people killed.
Tanks/armored warfare where/was developed for trench warfare. As long trench warfare exist they’ll be need a for Armor.
That supressed rifle sounded straight out of a Videogame!
Was that edited in or are games becoming that realistic?
real sound. It's not a suppressor but an attachment used for blanks. Firing blank rounds are softer than real bullets. hope that helps
the orange tip means it has a blank firing adapter on it. Blanks are significantly quieter than normal rounds, especially through a supressor.
so no, not really.
I never imagined in over a century that trench warfare would be used again.
Who'd want to go back to that?
The earth is our friend I'll enjoy my trench because I know I won't be getting pounded 24/7
No matter how technology evolves I don't ever foresee a time where trenches and land mines will not be cost effective defenses.
Trench warfare didn't fall out of use, it's just only useful in conventional warfare, and until Ukraine there hadn't been a conventional war that lasted more than a few weeks since Korea.
Why all of them are in low ready positions?? Specially all those who covering the back or 2nd numbers? They’ll shot 1st number for sure at some moment.
It's a tried and true tactic. Used probably back in Roman campaigns. Fact is open fields aren't good cover regardless of the Era.
We should of learnt back in 1914
Back to WW1 training again?
Train hard fight easy.
the cadpat is 🔥
Its estdcu not cadpat. They are similar but not the same.
while its great that NATO soldiers keep training and learning to fight all environments, we need to understand why warfare like this is happening in Ukraine. Both sides are too weak to push and perform any significant attacks. Its also caused by not sufficent counter-battery fire, no usage of air support in any significant way and unable to fully benefit from the support of AFV's. War with NATO would have to go really bad to the point that they also have to restrain to tactics like this
It's all about momentum. If we can pull off what we did in Iraq and the middle east then sure we could make it happen . The Iraq army was large and similarly equipped. We also faced a lot of open terrain like Ukraine.However, the Russian army is larger, has more experienced crews and updated versions of equipment, more production capacity, and a much greater air defense and air force . As it stands if we declare war now and launch an assault in Ukraine we have ONE shot . After that we'll loose the momentum having to replace equipment and men and our lack of supplies and reserves . Sure we may have the navy and air force to gain the upper hand in those battles and they will provide us support and allow us to push forward but we'd be facing what the Russians are now . They completely outnumber Ukraine on the ground and in the air but they still can't achieve the breakthrough that we'd also be looking for in their situation. Drones , missiles , mines , and hand held munitions have changed the game . Soldiers in trenches are effective again and honestly safer than mobile or mech-inf in a drawn out engagement. Speed is no longer enough to ensure victory and we're resorting to heavy armour and earth once again for defense . Many thought the future would see the end of heavy infantry use ,the death of the riflemen , how wrong we were .
The Russians as a rule are also very stout defenders due to their beliefs and callous nature toward death . Sure sometimes they collapse but when they get their shit together especially with their layered defences they become a real threat . As we seen in the south last summer . The layers of mines , barbed wire , tank ditches , dragons teeth , trenches , and dugouts spread over an area up to 50km deep in some spots was enough to slow us down and let the Russians real pride their artillery go to work on us . After those first few days , even hours it was over . We lost momentum
We need heavy training in trench warfare and infantry combat . We also need to boost our production in all NATO countries 10 fold . Ifvs , tanks, planes, artillery ammunition, new infantry weapons with a larger caliber for trench fighting and defeating body armor. We have a lot of work to do that should have started two years ago or better yet in 2014 when we seen it coming . I believe in us and our alliance but if we're not realistic and call ourselves out and credit the effective moves of the enemy we won't prepare , and we will struggle in the coming Storm . I'm loving that NATO is waking up finally
lol, completely delusional take
French are very experienced with this! Good luck Russians
Trench warfare is basically a static slugging match
trench in Ukraine are very narrow and tights, unlike here, what's the point in omitting that?
Because nato countries like the us have very strict rules on how foxhole and trenches are to be constructed
Les tranchées en Ukraine sont souvent faîtes dans la précipitation, donc sans le temps d'avoir de très bonnes tranchées.
Mais si tu fais une recherche tu verras que les Ukrainiens font les mêmes tranchés que celle de l'OTAN lorsqu'ils les font sur des lignes reculés pour se préparer pour de futur grande offensive Russe.
is good to take all the scenarios, but Ukraine is a trench warfare because their terrain is plane... they don't have mountains, big forests except Kreminna, etc... and both bands don't have air superiority... i have my doubts in case of a conflict between Russia and NATO that could end in this kind of war.
Better make sure to keep your feet dry
Good luck and god speed!❤
IT'S 1914 VERDUN ALL OVER AGAIN
okay, but there was barely anything happening in 1914 in Verdun. You probably meant 1916.
et ouais, ca fais changement que une guerre non-conventionnel (afghanistan, syrie etc), on n'a pas d'experience en combat de trencher depuis la fin de la WW1 donc mieux commencer a s'entrainer a ce type de combat (encore) car ca va etre le plus utiliser pour une VRAI guerre
Trench warfare doesn't make sense, sure, you have to know how to build trenches, defend them, and how to take over the enemy's trenches, but in real combat, taking over the enemy's trenches doesn't make sense. an attacking force could lose more than 50 percent of its troops in less than 10 minutes just because of a mine trap.
If you dont move forward, how does anything get done...
Why doesn’t the lead person have a large shield ?
Many reasons. The simple answer: A shield that can stop rifle caliber rounds at close quarters would be heavy af and hard to maneuver around trenches.
because its not Rainbow 6 siege
Because the trenches they are training in are 3 times as wide as the real trenches they will be fighting in. 60 pound shield isnt easy to carry around...
Is it a part if training to have them folded or under water? Because training in extrem conditions will make real situations easier. If you look even to Ukraine, they're standing in freezing water both RU and UA. So I think it's best to train in storms while you fight in the rain
Trench warfare only exists because neither Russia nor Ukraine has adequate access to air power. This is, frankly, pointless for a NATO army, unless what you're planning is to clear Russian trenches in the Donbas.
That is absolutely on point.
Well NATO was supposed to be a military alliance to counter aggressive imperialist countries like Russia.
Russia is does not have an extraordinary military, they have survived against invasions because of the climate and their defensive tactics.
In a war against NATO history will repeat itself and NATO needs to be prepared for Russian defensive tactics, while air superiority and support will be much easier
We shouldn’t assume that simply because NATO could dominate the air that it would swiftly win the war. Combined arms and tactics are necessary
It’s probably that. Also, Trenches are still used nowadays in warfare, but as you stated, they’re less effective now
I find it extremely important even more so for troops stationned on the borders with a possible enemy, in peace time it's not possible to put a large amount of forces in those countries, the guys there would have to hold until reinforcements arrive
I would underestimate the russian army. The russian army underestimated the Ukrainian army and got stuck in trench warfare. The same thing can happen with NATO, as of course there will be a conflict between them, or between China and NATO, who knows
Ts funny people don’t have a clue ts in Ukraine is large scale combined arms positional warfare in Europe and yk it’s not just trenches there’s hard fortifications concrete bunkers shelters basements dugouts strongholds defensive belts and it’s about 20 or 30% modern all ts Ukraine is not flat the terrain is crazy theres high ground and low ground and so on.😂☠️
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I might sound stupid. But who builds the trenches ?
Engineers and grunts
Trench warfare is not so relevant if one side has air superiority, which NATO absolutely would. The only reason it's happening in Ukraine is neither side has the ability to dominate the skies.
1) China has pretty capable air defenses NATO would not be able to just do whatever they want without decent risk to their aircraft/pilots. 2) When an aircraft is firing missiles or dropping bombs etc. you definitely have a much higher chance of survival if you're dug into a trench than just out in the open.
@bestieswithtesties china does have capable air defenses but against the full nato airforce and navy? Even it would take all the air defense systems from russia and china combined to stop them from achieving air superiority.
I think it’s unique to Ukraine.
Trench warfare? Why would it be?
For now it is. Trench Warfare returned in the Iran-Iraq War.
The history of trench warfare begins in ancient times, but modern trench warfare really started in the 16th century (siege of Vienna) with huge modernizations in the 19th century (Crimean War). During all this time until today, trench warfare was never gone, only sometimes more or less useful in a given scenario. So it's not unique to Ukraine.
The cycle repeats itself