PLEASE READ: This is meant to show a perspective I hadn't heard about before and what I experienced. When I posted about my positive experience in Lahore, the level of backlash / accusations of propaganda and even death threats and certain misinformation prompted me to want to share this. Remember, two things can be true at once. There is no question that Pakistan is need of many reforms and the fight for minority rights is an important one, but there is no reason to vilify someone who posts about a positive experience and there is no reason to deny the existence of a large happy Hindu community. If there is a happy Hindu community, this should be a good thing. For me, it made me feel hopeful. But I do not support the merging of religion and state in PK, just as I do not support a movement to make India a Hindu nation. As I emphasized, PK is not a secular state and is not built on a foundation of religious tolerance---but there are hundreds of millions of Muslims and it's fair to also show the ones who are not extremist and who are speaking up for minorities in the country. THE BIG LIE: There's a claim that the Hindu population of Pakistan has declined significantly from around ~20% to 2% and this is used to support the idea that there is an ongoing genocide of Hindus in Pakistan today. But this is incredibly misleading because this statistic actually includes the huge migration in Hindus out of BANGLADESH (which was formerly east pakistan). The vast majority of Hindus had already migrated out of Pakistan when the partition took place in 1947 www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-bangladesh-non-muslim-population-citizenship-amendment-bill-bjp-1627678-2019-12-12 00:48 Why I’m talking about this 07:28 Interview with Hindu girl from Karachi 08:25 Celebrating Hindu festivals in Karachi 09:45 How big is the community (misconceptions)? 11:00 What did you learn in school? 12:19 Did you have Muslim friends growing up? 15:06 Blasphemy laws 17:34 Social media reaction 21:02 What’s Karachi like? 26:58 Being a woman in Pakistan 32:28 Afterword Here is the caption on the reel I posted on my trip to Lahore: AN INDIAN IN PAKISTAN… My parents were nervous when I told them where I was going. As Indian citizens, there were banned from entering. They knew the history and had heard only horror stories about being Hindu in Pakistan. But with my American passport, I could apply online for a visa. And in less than 24 hours, I was granted authorization for entry on arrival, though the actual visa would be subject to the border official’s discretion. I’m American but I’m named after Lakshmi, the Hindu goddess, a dead giveaway that I’m of Indian origin. I entered Pakistan via the Wagah border, the only way to cross between the 2 nations. There hasn’t been a flight in decades. I walked across and it felt surreal to be on the Pakistani side. I was little nervous when the border officials checked my passport. He noticed my name and he asked me if I’m Indian and why I was coming. I told him I was just a curious tourist. Both officers looked up at me and smiled, said welcome and started rattling off recommendations of what I needed to see during my trip. One stamped my passport and said that he hoped one day he would be able to see India in his lifetime. That wasn’t the last time I would hear someone say that to me. Each time I introduced myself as Lakshmi, I would see the person’s face light up with a mix of surprise and curiosity-and often a hint of sadness. I passed most of my days in #lahore, just 60 km away from Amritsar, its sister city in India. Before the bloody partition of 1947, when millions died and were uprooted, there was just one state called Punjab; one people living in one nation. As I walked around, I sometimes forgot that I wasn’t in #india. There were so many similarities-the street food, the smell of spices, the colors, the traffic, the beautiful and overwhelming chaos, the language, the love for Bollywood, the endless cups of chai. Most people assumed I was a local, but when they learned I was Indian, they usually made an extra effort to welcome me. Someone said to me, “the conflict is between the governments, not the people. And the extremists don’t represent us.” - Lakshmi
here is the extract from article from New York Times(woke liberal publication ) title : Poor and Desperate, Pakistani Hindus Accept Islam to Get By By Maria Abi-Habib and Zia ur-Rehman Published Aug. 4, 2020 """"At independence in 1947, Hindus composed 20.5 percent of the population of the areas that now form Pakistan. In the following decades, the percentage shrank rapidly, and by 1998 - the last government census to classify people by religion - Hindus were just 1.6 percent of Pakistan’s population. Most estimates say it has further dwindled in the past two decades. Once a melting pot of religions, Sindh Province, where the conversion ceremony took place, has seen minority members flee to other countries in droves in recent decades. Many face harsh discrimination, as well as the specter of violence - and the risk of being accused of blasphemy, a capital crime - if they speak out against it. “The dehumanization of minorities coupled with these very scary times we are living in - a weak economy and now the pandemic - we may see a raft of people converting to Islam to stave off violence or hunger or just to live to see another day,” said Farahnaz Ispahani, a former Pakistani lawmaker who is now a senior fellow at the Religious Freedom Institute, a research group in Washington.""""
here is another report 2011" 1."""Text books in Pakistani schools foster prejudice and intolerance of Hindus and other religious minorities, while most teachers view non-Muslims as ''enemies of Islam,'' according to a study by a US government commission "" 2. Researchers visited 37 public schools, interviewing 277 students and teachers, and 19 madrases, where they interviewed 226 students and teachers. 3. ''Religious minorities are often portrayed as inferior or second-class citizens who have been granted limited rights and privileges by generous Pakistani Muslims, for which they should be grateful,'' the report said. 4. ''Hindus are repeatedly described as extremists and eternal enemies of Islam whose culture and society is based on injustice and cruelty, while Islam delivers a message of peace and brotherhood, concepts portrayed as alien to the Hindu.'' 5. In 2011 Annual Report, USCIRF found that textbooks used in Pakistani primary and secondary schools foster prejudice and intolerance of religious minorities, especially Hindus and Christians. Such intolerant references are not restricted to Islamic studies textbooks: they are found in both early elementary and more advanced social studies texts used by all public school students, including non-Muslims. Source (from woke left/liberal commission) Connecting the Dots: Education and Religious Discrimination in Pakistan A Study of Public Schools and Madrassas United States Commission on International Religious Freedom November 2011 By Azhar Hussain (ICRD) and Ahmad Salim with Arif Naveed (SDPI)
Not watching a video and making a comment about it is also not correct. This is not presented as view about the country as a whole. It’s just an acknowledgement of a side that’s not shown.
Yes, the privileged don't have a problem, but have seen videos of poorer girls being taken by Muslm men. It is consensual, but is done by a richer/resourceful guy, so its also a socio-economic issue, exacerbated by the lopsided sex-ratio of the subcontinent, where some guys have take extraordinary measures.
Ya no denying that Pakistan def has issues - just want to show this side because people’s perceptions are so skewed that many people thought it wasn’t safe for me to go (including my parents)
@@Lostshmi Yes the subcontinent (esp North) has issues. Also, ignore the trolls, they are just Saffronists-Brahminsits, that want to keep the masses unenlightened, to control them.
@@shreea3131 this girl isn’t a RUclipsr. And I chatted with a handful of people. I hope when I travel back there I can see for myself what it’s like in the nicer parts (and also be able to see the poorer areas)
The shouldn’t be any problem talking about life in the city in a large privileged community though-unless one has an agenda this side of the narrative is good to hear about, it gives hope. Hope I can see struggling communities as well when I return if I manage to make any connections
Awesome video! Interesting take. I may be heading there in a few months. As a Canadian of Indian origin I hope it's awesome! Did you tell your parents you were going or not lol?
I told my mom I was going to Lahore and showed her pictures and she didn’t know i was in Pakistan for a while 😂. My dad knew tho and he was worried-he was like, they’re gonna send your butt back to India if you walk across the border 🤣
If you get a gig spreading misinformation for governments, please put in a good word for me and let me use you as a reference before AI takes over plz. Super cool video!
In Pakistan they are not 3 different entities.Pakistan is religion, culture and government;ie politic is one Pakistsn is a Islamic state as of constitution.
“She’s posting about her life” doesn’t count when every video she posts has the intention to generalize the Pakistani Hindus which are victims of genocide everyday.
why do you assume this generalization? she specifically states (and I made sure its stated immediately in the first few seconds of this video) that she is from a large privileged, educated hindu community in Karachi. Why can't people accept that this community exists. The thing is, two things can be true at the same time
Blasphemy Law Sections 295 and 298 of Pakistan’s Penal Code criminalize acts and speech insulting religion or defiling the Qur’an, the Prophet Muhammad, places of worship, or religious symbols. These vague provisions are frequently abused to levy false accusations against Shi’a Muslims, Ahmadiyya Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, and others who do not adhere to the majority Sunni interpretation of Islam. Cases often violate legal procedures, and judges come under extreme pressure from religious groups to convict. The law sets severe punishments, including the death penalty. Although some individuals have received death sentences and others have died in detention while awaiting trial, Pakistan has not executed anyone for blasphemy. Even lawyers defending those charged with blasphemy, presiding judges, and individuals speaking against the law are targeted. Pakistani lawyer Saif ul Malook-who has successfully overturned several convictions for blasphemy cases, including those of Asia Bibi and of Shagufta Kausar and her husband Shafqat Emanuel-said he and others like him face grave danger from extremists. Source USCIRF-RECOMMENDED FOR COUNTRIES OF PARTICULAR CONCERN (CPC)
The fact that blasphemy laws even EXIST is f**ked up. As I said, this isn’t a secular country and it is in need of many reforms. Doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that that there are large communities in Pak who are happy-that gives me hope
@@Lostshmi"If both Western and Indian liberal/left circles can label India as a 'dangerous country for minorities' in various ways and degrees, then why don't we often hear the perspective that there are large communities in India who are content and hopeful? (your logic "Doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that that there are large communities in Pakistan who are happy-that gives me hope"...) This is crucial when countering the hypocrisy of those who uncritically portray countries like Pakistan I am countering those hypocrisies, when people whitewash Pakistan.... Please note i never wrote about any safety issue of travelling inside Pakistan , probably most safest as Pak police and intel agency follow their(tourist) movement 24/7....(sarcasm)
I understand your criticism of the “liberal woke” media! I don’t support them either. The media in general lacks nuance and articles about India make me angry too. But I just wanted to be able to share my experience as it was. And I got death threats from Indians for that (which I didn’t expect) so this is a response.
@@Lostshmi 'death threats" are unacceptable....it needs condemnation. Your ability to respond the way you want is your choice and liberty..... But people like me would respond, in similar way like you do with your thoughts. You can agree to disagree on my points. beside all the above responses, i do love your vlogs, I am your subscriber, keep it going...keep smiling. Exploring the world as lone traveller needs guts and passion...i appreciate that in you.... We can agree to disagree and still be friends..... Take care and all the best
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
You were right that it might not have been drop from 22% to 1.8%, but it is 14.60% to 1.58%...and still its a huge difference, unless you just want to sweep it under the carpet. Secondly you would get a better treatment if the locals feel you are not just some poor hindu girl, which would be very evident from your accent. So stop whitewashing everything just because you had better experience. There are lot of videos/ documentaries on youtube itself, just go through those and you would know the pain of ordinary hindus living in Pakistan. ohh and by the way, your so called innocent and sweet Pakistanis, if they remain silent while hindus are getting persecuted then they should be held accountable too...not everything can be let go just by saying hey they are innocent they didnt do anything.
1. Go ahead and drop your verified source of this drop - then definitely please share source. The statistics show that this drop was accounted for in Bangladesh 2. No one’s denying negative experiences of others. Two things can be true at once because that’s how the world works. If negative experiences are told often, what’s the big deal if a positive experience is told once? I should get death threats for that? 3. Did you listen to her interview? There are educated liberal ones who are defending minorities 4. When did I say anything everyone being “innocent and sweet Pakistanis”? You clearly didn’t listen to what I said in the video if you are writing this comment.
@@Lostshmi well it's rich from you asking for the source when you yourself didn't provide any when you made that claim. Anyway here you go en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan, and you will find the reference links from where the data was gathered. Also when did I say you should get death threats for what you are saying, that's complete BS from whoever is doing it, but please don't try to put words in my mouth or suggest anything otherwise. Peace
@@saurabhjoshi9411 did you read that source lol? it literally proves my point, thanks haha In 1941, the population was 14.6%. That was BEFORE the partition. By the same data set, you can see that the Hindu population has increased very modestly since 1951 🤦🏽♀ THIS IS WHAT YOUR SOURCE SAYS: Hinduism (%) in Pakistan by decades Year Percent Increase/Decrease 1901 17.07% - 1911 14.09% −2.98% 1921 14.80% +0.71% 1931 14.61% −0.19% 1941 14.60% −0.01% 1951 1.58% −13.02% 1961 1.4% -0.18% 1981 1.5% +0.1% 1998 1.85% +0.35% 2017 2.14% +0.29% Between 1941 and 1951, the partition happened and there was a decline in Hindu population of course because of the partition in 1947. After that, there is no decrease, actually there is a very small increase. Also i don't think you read my description if you say i didn't put any source anywhere.
@@Lostshmi hahah ROFL, any society where a community thrives doesn't increase by smaller margin but your bias will not let you see it, if that's the case then let's compare muslim population increase in India since independence.
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
Hi - Pakistan census data shows that population in present day Pakistan has very slightly increased. The majority of Hindus left when the partition happened in 1947. Hinduism (%) in Pakistan by decades according to census data: Year Percent Increase/Decrease 1901 17.07% - 1911 14.09% −2.98% 1921 14.80% +0.71% 1931 14.61% −0.19% 1941 14.60% −0.01% 1951 1.58% −13.02% 1961 1.4% -0.18% 1981 1.5% +0.1% 1998 1.85% +0.35% 2017 2.14% +0.29% Please note, I do not support the merging of religion and state and am not trying to argue that Pakistan is the best place for minorities BUT I am saying that there are 200 million people there and they’re not all extremist-in fact there are ones who want to help and don’t support extremism so why not acknowledge that if that was my experience?
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PLEASE READ: This is meant to show a perspective I hadn't heard about before and what I experienced. When I posted about my positive experience in Lahore, the level of backlash / accusations of propaganda and even death threats and certain misinformation prompted me to want to share this.
Remember, two things can be true at once. There is no question that Pakistan is need of many reforms and the fight for minority rights is an important one, but there is no reason to vilify someone who posts about a positive experience and there is no reason to deny the existence of a large happy Hindu community. If there is a happy Hindu community, this should be a good thing. For me, it made me feel hopeful. But I do not support the merging of religion and state in PK, just as I do not support a movement to make India a Hindu nation. As I emphasized, PK is not a secular state and is not built on a foundation of religious tolerance---but there are hundreds of millions of Muslims and it's fair to also show the ones who are not extremist and who are speaking up for minorities in the country.
THE BIG LIE: There's a claim that the Hindu population of Pakistan has declined significantly from around ~20% to 2% and this is used to support the idea that there is an ongoing genocide of Hindus in Pakistan today. But this is incredibly misleading because this statistic actually includes the huge migration in Hindus out of BANGLADESH (which was formerly east pakistan). The vast majority of Hindus had already migrated out of Pakistan when the partition took place in 1947
www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-bangladesh-non-muslim-population-citizenship-amendment-bill-bjp-1627678-2019-12-12
00:48 Why I’m talking about this
07:28 Interview with Hindu girl from Karachi
08:25 Celebrating Hindu festivals in Karachi
09:45 How big is the community (misconceptions)?
11:00 What did you learn in school?
12:19 Did you have Muslim friends growing up?
15:06 Blasphemy laws
17:34 Social media reaction
21:02 What’s Karachi like?
26:58 Being a woman in Pakistan
32:28 Afterword
Here is the caption on the reel I posted on my trip to Lahore:
AN INDIAN IN PAKISTAN…
My parents were nervous when I told them where I was going. As Indian citizens, there were banned from entering. They knew the history and had heard only horror stories about being Hindu in Pakistan.
But with my American passport, I could apply online for a visa. And in less than 24 hours, I was granted authorization for entry on arrival, though the actual visa would be subject to the border official’s discretion.
I’m American but I’m named after Lakshmi, the Hindu goddess, a dead giveaway that I’m of Indian origin.
I entered Pakistan via the Wagah border, the only way to cross between the 2 nations. There hasn’t been a flight in decades. I walked across and it felt surreal to be on the Pakistani side.
I was little nervous when the border officials checked my passport. He noticed my name and he asked me if I’m Indian and why I was coming. I told him I was just a curious tourist.
Both officers looked up at me and smiled, said welcome and started rattling off recommendations of what I needed to see during my trip. One stamped my passport and said that he hoped one day he would be able to see India in his lifetime.
That wasn’t the last time I would hear someone say that to me. Each time I introduced myself as Lakshmi, I would see the person’s face light up with a mix of surprise and curiosity-and often a hint of sadness.
I passed most of my days in #lahore, just 60 km away from Amritsar, its sister city in India. Before the bloody partition of 1947, when millions died and were uprooted, there was just one state called Punjab; one people living in one nation.
As I walked around, I sometimes forgot that I wasn’t in #india. There were so many similarities-the street food, the smell of spices, the colors, the traffic, the beautiful and overwhelming chaos, the language, the love for Bollywood, the endless cups of chai.
Most people assumed I was a local, but when they learned I was Indian, they usually made an extra effort to welcome me. Someone said to me, “the conflict is between the governments, not the people. And the extremists don’t represent us.”
- Lakshmi
here is the extract from article from New York Times(woke liberal publication ) title : Poor and Desperate, Pakistani Hindus Accept Islam to Get By
By Maria Abi-Habib and Zia ur-Rehman
Published Aug. 4, 2020
""""At independence in 1947, Hindus composed 20.5 percent of the population of the areas that now form Pakistan. In the following decades, the percentage shrank rapidly, and by 1998 - the last government census to classify people by religion - Hindus were just 1.6 percent of Pakistan’s population. Most estimates say it has further dwindled in the past two decades.
Once a melting pot of religions, Sindh Province, where the conversion ceremony took place, has seen minority members flee to other countries in droves in recent decades. Many face harsh discrimination, as well as the specter of violence - and the risk of being accused of blasphemy, a capital crime - if they speak out against it.
“The dehumanization of minorities coupled with these very scary times we are living in - a weak economy and now the pandemic - we may see a raft of people converting to Islam to stave off violence or hunger or just to live to see another day,” said Farahnaz Ispahani, a former Pakistani lawmaker who is now a senior fellow at the Religious Freedom Institute, a research group in Washington.""""
here is another report 2011"
1."""Text books in Pakistani schools foster prejudice and intolerance of Hindus and other religious minorities, while most teachers view non-Muslims as ''enemies of Islam,'' according to a study by a US government commission ""
2. Researchers visited 37 public schools, interviewing 277 students and teachers, and 19 madrases, where they interviewed 226 students and teachers.
3. ''Religious minorities are often portrayed as inferior or second-class citizens who have been granted limited rights and privileges by generous Pakistani Muslims, for which they should be grateful,'' the report said.
4. ''Hindus are repeatedly described as extremists and eternal enemies of Islam whose culture and society is based on injustice and cruelty, while Islam delivers a message of peace and brotherhood, concepts portrayed as alien to the Hindu.''
5. In 2011 Annual Report, USCIRF found that textbooks used in Pakistani
primary and secondary schools foster prejudice and intolerance of religious minorities, especially Hindus and Christians. Such intolerant references are not restricted to
Islamic studies textbooks: they are found in both early elementary and more advanced
social studies texts used by all public school students, including non-Muslims.
Source (from woke left/liberal commission)
Connecting the Dots:
Education and Religious
Discrimination in Pakistan
A Study of Public Schools and Madrassas
United States Commission on
International Religious Freedom
November 2011
By Azhar Hussain (ICRD) and
Ahmad Salim with Arif Naveed (SDPI)
Talking to one person living in metropolitan city and making view about a country is not correct. Take to people in villages in Punjab and Sindh
Not watching a video and making a comment about it is also not correct. This is not presented as view about the country as a whole. It’s just an acknowledgement of a side that’s not shown.
Yes, the privileged don't have a problem, but have seen videos of poorer girls being taken by Muslm men.
It is consensual, but is done by a richer/resourceful guy, so its also a socio-economic issue, exacerbated by the lopsided sex-ratio of the subcontinent, where some guys have take extraordinary measures.
Ya no denying that Pakistan def has issues - just want to show this side because people’s perceptions are so skewed that many people thought it wasn’t safe for me to go (including my parents)
@@Lostshmi Yes the subcontinent (esp North) has issues.
Also, ignore the trolls, they are just Saffronists-Brahminsits, that want to keep the masses unenlightened, to control them.
@@Lostshmi it is safe for youtubers.....especially people who come there for tourism..to built in narrative...Pakistan is always known for it...
@@shreea3131 this girl is LIVING in Pakistan and people tell her she can’t post about her real life?
@@shreea3131 this girl isn’t a RUclipsr. And I chatted with a handful of people. I hope when I travel back there I can see for myself what it’s like in the nicer parts (and also be able to see the poorer areas)
Come out of the privileged cocoon.. .
The shouldn’t be any problem talking about life in the city in a large privileged community though-unless one has an agenda this side of the narrative is good to hear about, it gives hope.
Hope I can see struggling communities as well when I return if I manage to make any connections
I can understand aapko jinda vi rha h na koi hope you are safe koi vi country ho❤
Awesome video! Interesting take. I may be heading there in a few months. As a Canadian of Indian origin I hope it's awesome! Did you tell your parents you were going or not lol?
I told my mom I was going to Lahore and showed her pictures and she didn’t know i was in Pakistan for a while 😂. My dad knew tho and he was worried-he was like, they’re gonna send your butt back to India if you walk across the border 🤣
@@Lostshmi 😂woow, lmao
Good to see you Lakshmi 🎉
There’s no schedule on this channel 😂
Haay watching From India 😊
Hello! Thank you 🙏 😄
If you get a gig spreading misinformation for governments, please put in a good word for me and let me use you as a reference before AI takes over plz.
Super cool video!
😂😂😂 will do hahaha. And thank you!
@@Lostshmithat's a no, I got it from your hahaha.
In Pakistan they are not 3 different entities.Pakistan is religion, culture and government;ie politic is one Pakistsn is a Islamic state as of constitution.
They should be 3 separate entities - why are Indians trying to follow in Pakistan’s footsteps… this is not the example to follow lol
I m a South indian man prashant 24yr old
I wanna marry lostshmi
How do you know I’m not crazy 🤪
@@Lostshmi I m from Karnataka
I have been following u since 2 yrs ❤️
@@pscholachagudda__ appreciate it!
I would have married her if she was 35 plus
@@pscholachagudda__tbh tho seeing comments on my video like this and nothing about my actual content is the reason why I don’t post on the channel :/
“She’s posting about her life” doesn’t count when every video she posts has the intention to generalize the Pakistani Hindus which are victims of genocide everyday.
why do you assume this generalization? she specifically states (and I made sure its stated immediately in the first few seconds of this video) that she is from a large privileged, educated hindu community in Karachi. Why can't people accept that this community exists. The thing is, two things can be true at the same time
Good job
Thank you :)
God bless you dear sister.
❤️🙏
Blasphemy Law
Sections 295 and 298 of Pakistan’s Penal Code criminalize acts and
speech insulting religion or defiling the Qur’an, the Prophet Muhammad, places of worship, or religious symbols. These vague provisions
are frequently abused to levy false accusations against Shi’a Muslims,
Ahmadiyya Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, and others who do
not adhere to the majority Sunni interpretation of Islam. Cases often
violate legal procedures, and judges come under extreme pressure
from religious groups to convict. The law sets severe punishments,
including the death penalty. Although some individuals have received
death sentences and others have died in detention while awaiting
trial, Pakistan has not executed anyone for blasphemy. Even lawyers
defending those charged with blasphemy, presiding judges, and
individuals speaking against the law are targeted. Pakistani lawyer Saif
ul Malook-who has successfully overturned several convictions for
blasphemy cases, including those of Asia Bibi and of Shagufta Kausar
and her husband Shafqat Emanuel-said he and others like him face
grave danger from extremists.
Source
USCIRF-RECOMMENDED FOR COUNTRIES OF PARTICULAR CONCERN (CPC)
The fact that blasphemy laws even EXIST is f**ked up. As I said, this isn’t a secular country and it is in need of many reforms. Doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that that there are large communities in Pak who are happy-that gives me hope
@@Lostshmi"If both Western and Indian liberal/left circles can label India as a 'dangerous country for minorities' in various ways and degrees, then why don't we often hear the perspective that there are large communities in India who are content and hopeful? (your logic "Doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that that there are large communities in Pakistan who are happy-that gives me hope"...)
This is crucial when countering the hypocrisy of those who uncritically portray countries like Pakistan
I am countering those hypocrisies, when people whitewash Pakistan....
Please note i never wrote about any safety issue of travelling inside Pakistan , probably most safest as Pak police and intel agency follow their(tourist) movement 24/7....(sarcasm)
I understand your criticism of the “liberal woke” media! I don’t support them either. The media in general lacks nuance and articles about India make me angry too.
But I just wanted to be able to share my experience as it was. And I got death threats from Indians for that (which I didn’t expect) so this is a response.
@@Lostshmi 'death threats" are unacceptable....it needs condemnation.
Your ability to respond the way you want is your choice and liberty.....
But people like me would respond, in similar way like you do with your thoughts.
You can agree to disagree on my points.
beside all the above responses, i do love your vlogs, I am your subscriber, keep it going...keep smiling.
Exploring the world as lone traveller needs guts and passion...i appreciate that in you....
We can agree to disagree and still be friends.....
Take care and all the best
@@shreea3131 appreciate the dialogue including criticism and thanks always for your support!
Please see the Hindu samman foundation video hsf 🙏
I will take a look thx 🙏
Please do a live with Divik Kumar too
I’ll look him up thx :)
doesn't she look like Sonakshi sinha?
i can see that :)
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
Are you doing job nowadays?
Pakistani hundu refugees in india
Paid by ISI. 😢
I have not taken a single cent from Pak (or any government for that matter). Actually I make next to nothing from social media lol
@@Lostshmi Then Taliban. Or khurasan or TTP.
@@Lostshmi I just need a reply from u.
From Kerala. You know we don't care religion 😍
I unfollowed you coz of your propoganda videos thank u jai hind ....
Hi
Hello!
You were right that it might not have been drop from 22% to 1.8%, but it is 14.60% to 1.58%...and still its a huge difference, unless you just want to sweep it under the carpet. Secondly you would get a better treatment if the locals feel you are not just some poor hindu girl, which would be very evident from your accent. So stop whitewashing everything just because you had better experience. There are lot of videos/ documentaries on youtube itself, just go through those and you would know the pain of ordinary hindus living in Pakistan.
ohh and by the way, your so called innocent and sweet Pakistanis, if they remain silent while hindus are getting persecuted then they should be held accountable too...not everything can be let go just by saying hey they are innocent they didnt do anything.
1. Go ahead and drop your verified source of this drop - then definitely please share source. The statistics show that this drop was accounted for in Bangladesh
2. No one’s denying negative experiences of others. Two things can be true at once because that’s how the world works. If negative experiences are told often, what’s the big deal if a positive experience is told once? I should get death threats for that?
3. Did you listen to her interview? There are educated liberal ones who are defending minorities
4. When did I say anything everyone being “innocent and sweet Pakistanis”? You clearly didn’t listen to what I said in the video if you are writing this comment.
@@Lostshmi well it's rich from you asking for the source when you yourself didn't provide any when you made that claim. Anyway here you go en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan, and you will find the reference links from where the data was gathered.
Also when did I say you should get death threats for what you are saying, that's complete BS from whoever is doing it, but please don't try to put words in my mouth or suggest anything otherwise. Peace
@@saurabhjoshi9411 did you read that source lol? it literally proves my point, thanks haha
In 1941, the population was 14.6%. That was BEFORE the partition. By the same data set, you can see that the Hindu population has increased very modestly since 1951 🤦🏽♀
THIS IS WHAT YOUR SOURCE SAYS:
Hinduism (%) in Pakistan by decades
Year Percent Increase/Decrease
1901 17.07% -
1911 14.09% −2.98%
1921 14.80% +0.71%
1931 14.61% −0.19%
1941 14.60% −0.01%
1951 1.58% −13.02%
1961 1.4% -0.18%
1981 1.5% +0.1%
1998 1.85% +0.35%
2017 2.14% +0.29%
Between 1941 and 1951, the partition happened and there was a decline in Hindu population of course because of the partition in 1947. After that, there is no decrease, actually there is a very small increase.
Also i don't think you read my description if you say i didn't put any source anywhere.
@@Lostshmi hahah ROFL, any society where a community thrives doesn't increase by smaller margin but your bias will not let you see it, if that's the case then let's compare muslim population increase in India since independence.
@@saurabhjoshi9411 you sent me a source that completely contradicts your own original point and I’m the one that’s biased OK 😂
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
report kar diya video ko as a misinformation , when the Pakistani govt data shows Hindu population in Pakistan declined from 22% to less than 1% . Few "Mera Abdul acha hain" wala girl on youtube trying to justify the data from pakistani govt was wrong .. Wah Didi Wah didi
Hi - Pakistan census data shows that population in present day Pakistan has very slightly increased. The majority of Hindus left when the partition happened in 1947.
Hinduism (%) in Pakistan by decades according to census data:
Year Percent Increase/Decrease
1901 17.07% -
1911 14.09% −2.98%
1921 14.80% +0.71%
1931 14.61% −0.19%
1941 14.60% −0.01%
1951 1.58% −13.02%
1961 1.4% -0.18%
1981 1.5% +0.1%
1998 1.85% +0.35%
2017 2.14% +0.29%
Please note, I do not support the merging of religion and state and am not trying to argue that Pakistan is the best place for minorities BUT I am saying that there are 200 million people there and they’re not all extremist-in fact there are ones who want to help and don’t support extremism so why not acknowledge that if that was my experience?
Nature lion 1989, 1989 and you still don't have your name or dp on your acc helped me ignore your absurd comment even more