Mcenroe vs Wilander - Semi Final US Open 1985 - 16/16
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Semi Final do US Open de 1985 disputada entre Johnny Mac (1°) contra Mats Wilander (3°), uma excelente partida para recordar, num jogo disputado em 5 Sets onde Wilander estava em alta e ja se encontrava entre os Grandes tenistas da época...
These announcers (Pat Summerall, Tony Trabert, and John Newcombe) were great together from 1982 through 1988 (I think.) This is when they really hit their groove.
You're so right. I especially liked John Newcombe because he was very blunt about certain player's strengths and weaknesses. He waa doing a 2008 US Open quarterfinal match between Roddick and Djokovic. Newcombe kept talking about the book on Roddick was to take him deep into backhand corner and then sharply go the other way which Djokovic did. Secondly Newcombe pointed out that Roddick was not a very good volleyer especially on the forehand side.
So what did Djokovic do? He would hit a short ball to bring Roddick in, then go right at Roddick's forehand volley which was weak. Newcombe was a superb analyst who wasn't afraid to tell the truth good or bad during his broadcasts.
Very good point you made here.
A lost art and McEnroe was the best ever at S&V.
Along with Edberg imho
Wilander is a tough guy to beat!
Very true many of his great victories were mentally won....no free points when you play him. He makes sure the opponent has to work very very hard..
yep, bring your lunch for "all week" when you play Wilander.... one the best mental players - ever.
And he was still only 21 here, and yet had already won the French and Australian Opens more than once each
I think this was still when the USO SF matches were played on Saturday and the Final on Sunday. This SF match took a lot physically out of Mac; it was incredibly humid that day also. Lendl had a somewhat easier match at night and against an injured Connors. Lendl may have won regardless but it feels like Mac's 5-set match had something to do with his straight set loss.
I'm not sure exactly when, but I think it might have been in the early 2000's when the men's semifinals began to be played on Friday. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Max probably played doubles, too.
Without a doubt...
Mac never trained fitness and endurance. That was his main problem compared to Lendl
Mac est le plus grand joueur de tout les temps
Ahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Non certainement pas mais en tout cas le meilleur entre janvier 1984 et mai 1985,ce qui est tout de même pas mal
@@leliondescavernes1747 dans les 10 meilleurs en tous les cas dommage roland garros 1984 et wim 80 sinon a 25 ans 4 masters, 7 grands schlems et 4 finales.. après il n''etait plus motivé... le seul en tous les cas a gagné plusieurs grands schlems en simble et en double la meme année... au point de vue de la beauté tennistique et du touché de balle, je le place juste derriere Federer...
@@philippestoffels8150 c'est surtout Wimbledon 82 qu'il aurait dû remporter
Wilander probably doesn't get enough credit for what he achieved in his career.
It doesn't matter, truth is wilander is one of the greatest player, and even today in 2019, after 34 years, no one has won 4 Grandslams before 21. Facts are facts.
He's one of only three players ever to have won Grand Slam titles on grass, clay and hardcourt.
jensj2 I can think of five ;)
Mentally one of the strongest players ever
@@paoloantunes1283 He seems to be having more fun 'in tennis' now than when he was 'grinding in tennis.' Good on Mats!
Wilander still only 21 here and yet was a multiple grand slam winner.
This match somehow wilander should have won, having breaks in 4th and 5th sets. Somehow he didn't use his deadly lobs, perhaps due to Pace of Macs volleys. His serve when he wanted can be too good, somehow he chose to be accurate in key moments of matches. For sure he would have beaten Lendl, Everytime he beats McEnroe in semis, he beats Lendl too, like in 1985 french and 1983 Australia open.
Wonder what Mac’s service stats were winning service points in the deuce court versus the ad court?
Talk about winning the battle but losing the war. This five set win on Saturday would cost dearly on Sunday in the final against Ivan Lendl. Exhausted McEnroe would be easy pickings for Lendl in the the final losing in straight sets. Thus began the reign of Ivan the terrible. Thanks Matts Wilander. Thanks. Looking back Lendl should have given you a percentage of his earnings.😀
That was the downside of the "Super Saturday" format..
Lendl would have won. Lendl had won just a few weeks earlier, and Lendl retained his clay Slam in the French. Mac had lost his Wimbledon title to Becker, who beat Lendl in the final. Lendl was on the up, number one. I know this was an exhausting match in very humid conditions. As I recall Mac got a drip after the match. It was permitted then. Lendl was unstoppable at the US open, making 9 finals jn a row, a record that will never be equaled.
Somebody mentioned the madness of Super Saturday. Yes it was, and this long match did hurt Mac, even with the drip. It was importing to hold the semi the day before.
Denis Daly ha,hah,hah,. You're facts are so incorrect! . cant be bothered to discect your statement, other than you are talking shit.
Denis Daly you are a trump voter,yes?
Mac would have won on Sunday if not for this...
With Borg or Wilander's Psyche McEnroe would have been unbeatible
Is it just me or did the fizz go out of Mcenroe's game in the latter half of '85 and never return?
tattum lol
@@philippestoffels8150 Don't get married before age 30. Mac's situation was Exhibit A.
I noticed it in '86. It was a very small, almost unnoticeable, decline. Then age and injuries caught up to him around 88. The 1990 US Open was his last great stand when he reached the SF only to be overpowered by a young Californian named Pete Sampras. (That US Open was Sampras' coming-of-age party when he won the tournament.)
As far as majors yes, but he was still winning singles and doubles tournaments that were not majors.
Mc Enroe was the artist playing against the artisan. But he was already coming down from his heights, one year before he would have destroyed the swede in straight sets
I don’t know why Mats doesn’t S & V more often! He’s really good at it..
Maybe he would've won this match if he hadn't. That's wasn't the style of his game. When he won it 1988, he didn't do that.
Why on earth did Mac stop using the Dunlop Max 200?
I got to hit with one for the first time, just 2 years ago. And that racket is awesome. I wish I'd have used it in the 80's. It felt great, even though the head is smaller than any of us are used to now.
He was retired and decided to have fun and not have to hit with the smallest head out there.
He did not. He, two or three times tried other ones but came back to the 200G until the end.
I remember watching this match as it wore on thinking whoever wins will have an empty tank against Lendl.
Somebody told me that when McEnroe switched from Sergio Tacchini clothing to Nike, Mats got his ST money. I won a bar trivia contest with the answer to the question "How many Grand Slam titles did John win in Nike clothes"? Answer-zero.
I think I enjoyed Mac and Wilander more than Mac/Lendl because neither player could overpower the other
5:53 no words
And then he was too tired to keep it up with Lendl.
Bullshit that the winner had to play the next day
2 gays on a court