The Pope Says ALL Religions Lead to GOD?
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I speak Italian and the translation was correct, so it's clear the pope's comments go against John 14:6 where Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
I wish pope worried about divisions in Christianity instead of other religions
That's strange. Every pope to ever have existed has had to fight off heresies. That was a huge reason the Catholic Church formulated and canonized the Bible. In fact, every pope since the split of the E. Orth. church to the Reformation, to this day, has done so. To be honest, I believe it is the Protestants and E.O. faiths that do zero for any desire to become one again. In fact they continue to divide themselves.
If all religions point to God, then why did Jesus say, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6?
@@klausmaerz197 He didn't explicitly say they were true. Rather, they point to Christianity. As in, there is the truth.
@@Foreign0817ecumenical jesuitism getin wak
It means Jesus decides. Not you....
Damb I was trying to say that just couldn't articulate it correctly. I agree he saying all religions will eventually lead you to CHRIST, not a generic "god". @@Foreign0817
Never mind that one specific example how about all the freakin examples that talked about false idols
Beyond helpful Ruslan. We need to hear nuance and what people actually believe. We can’t stay in silos
The Pope reveres the love of the world more than the love of God. Thats why he flips flops on the most basic christian values. GOD has called us to love everyone but also not to forget that we are sepate from the world.
Like what?
Dear Catholic brothers and sisters, stop trying to defend what he said or pretend he didn’t say what he said. Focus on your faith, your faith should not be on a man it’s in Jesus Christ alone! I’m ex catholic so I understand the need to try making an excuse to ignore what he said but go read GALATIONS 1:6-10
I don't see Catholics excusing what he said, most of us are simply saying an incorrect teaching or statement of a priest, bishop, or pope does not tear apart the Church's doctrine of official doctrines being correct/led by the Holy Spirit. The Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Churches are both descended from apostolic succession traced to Jesus, and 2000 years later both churches are teaching the same doctrines, even despite the 1000 year schism. I agree, we have to have faith in Jesus and not in the pope who may fail us, but the teaching is not that the pope himself is infallible, it is only that the official doctrines of the Church are infallible. Just as protestants believe that Peter's writings in scripture are infallible, we believe they are inerrant, just as we believe official teachings and doctrines Peter/his successors received are also inerrant. That doesn't mean we have faith in Peter over Jesus, it means we have faith that Jesus gave an authority to the Church, and that the Church is meant to guide us on issues like the Trinity, doctrines of Mary, doctrines on the body and blood of Christ, doctrines on the humanity and divinity of Christ etc, to prevent everyone from coming to a bunch of incorrect conclusions such as Jesus was God in a human disguise and so on. The Pope does not have to be perfect, nor do the writers of scripture. I do think Protestant have a more concerning issue of knowing correct theology. And now we have so many denominations whose mainstream sects are overrun with LGBT theology. The problem with the Orthodox Church and Catholic Churches who are led by successors of Peter/ultimately successors of Jesus, is that they have some leaders who are immoral or are saying bad statements. Yet after 2000 years both have managed to have the same doctrine on the major matters, such as Mary, Eucharist, Christology, apostolic succession, marriage/lgbt etc. Many protestant sects are doing a great job and the best they can, worshipping God and emphasizing faith etc and many protestants are storing up more treasure in heaven than plenty of Catholics, but on the subject of doctrine and being true to the teachings of the early Church or establishing correct doctrine is much weaker for protestants simply because there is no unified Church for interpreting doctrine as there was since the earliest days of Christianity.
@@emily43210The original commenter and many Protestants won’t read this comment because it’s too long for them and they don’t actually care about having good faith discussions about this.
@@bruhhmomentummtrue. I dont
@@emily43210 The Christian Church (a.k.a. The Way, the Church, or Christanity) was founded in 30 AD by Jesus of Nazareth - the Christ, Messiah, Son of God, and Son of Man - through the Holy Spirit at Pentecost - although Jesus also had disciples prior to the offical founding of the Church; the subdivisions known as the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church were founded in 1054 AD, the subdivision known as the Oriental Orthodox Church was founded in 451 AD, the subdivision known as the Church of the East was founded in 431 AD, and the Protestant Reformation officially started in 1517 AD with several minor Proto-Protestant precursors forming prior to it and influencing others - all of these subdivisions are sui iuris braches within the true catholic, apoostolic, orthodox, Nicene, and Christian Church with further internal autocephalous organizational polity structures and distinctives in tradition.
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Even though Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and the Church of the East have a lot of hierarchy, centralized structure, stricter rules and procedures, and believe in the “one true church” doctrine, many of them, even some of their priests are just overtly “Cafeteria Catholics”/Nominally Orthodox (who are very nominal or only culturally Catholic/Orthodox), or even Folk Catholic/Folk Orthodox, some aren’t really devout Christians even by their own Catholic/Orthodox standards thus creating a huge variation in beliefs and huge deviation from core Christian tenants of the faith among individuals that are supposed to be shared by all true (Mainstream-Nicene) Christians regardless of denomination even though on paper there are strict outlines of dogma & hierarchy. While Evangelicals are very decentralized, believe “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity,” and put a higher emphasis on understanding and living out correct Christian teaching as opposed to obsessing over structure and hierarchy like Catholics do; so people who have wonky and unorthodox beliefs when it comes to primary issues tend to leave because in Evangelicalism there’s no point in staying (for the exception of non-Christian Republicans/political conservatives in the United States who don’t go to church & are stealing/co-opting the term for political reasons in collusion with secular media who want to fit their boogymen into neat boxes) because by definition you can’t be an Evangelical or a Christian if you no longer hold to those beliefs; Catholicism, Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy, and Mainline Protestantism are the opposite, Catholics/Orthodox who don’t hold to Catholic/Orthodox beliefs or even basic Christian beliefs are guilt-tripped into staying and are encouraged to stay because a baptized Catholic/Orthodox is still a Catholic/Orthodox even if they no longer believe in the tenants of the faith - most stay because simply being in the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Churches is more important than upholding Catholic/Orthodox or even broadly Christian beliefs. …
… A similar occurrence also happens in Mainline Protestant denominations not because they believe in the “one true church” doctrine (which they don’t), it’s because Mainline Protestant denominations are ready and willing to bend their core beliefs via theological liberalism/theological progressivism to maintain membership, plus (some also obsess over maintaining power/hierarchy as opposed to maintaining biblically orthodox theology and) many maintain membership and participate in church practices (like Baptism, Confirmation, etc.) solely for social and cultural reason even if they don’t believe in the tenets of the faith.
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The Roman Catholic Church historical only taught that no one outside the R. Catholic Church, even other Christians who uphold Mainstream-Nicene Christian beliefs are saved, but now has become wishy-washy on its official stance; which is now hovering between a medium-sized minority that still believe in their original stance of all people outside of the RCC which they define as the “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church” are not saved (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus), a tiny minority that believe that all Christians are saved and a large minority of Catholics that are borderline quasi-universalist (Catechism of the Catholic Church - CCC 847); there is no clear stance I’ve seen as of yet. I’ve actually heard of Catholics who believe that there are only two conflicting but acceptable answers to this issue (1) only members of the R. Catholic Church are saved as defined in the text known as Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus or (2) hold a quasi-universalist stance of all people of any religion who sincerely seek out deit(ies) but have not found the true God as described in the Gospel are still saved - which is an argument based off of what I believe and hope to be a misinterpretation of CCC 847 by both Catholic laity and “trained” clergy and not the actual teaching of the RCC - due to the fact that CCC 847 was written vaguely it may hold to that implication officially, which some see as the further downfall of Catholic theology in which the RCC is heading in an even worse than expected wrong direction. In other words, some of these Catholics believe that only Roman Catholics are saved (excluding other Christians) or all people who seek “God” or god sincerely in any way (regardless of religion) are also saved; with no in between as found in most other Christian denominations (especially Evangelicals) who believe that all Born-again Christians who accept Jesus Christ as their lord and personal savior, are repentant of their sins, and let Christ rule their heart, are truly saved; with no specific denomination or ecclesiastical leader claiming that they are infallible and the only institution that claims to be in good standing with God in relation to being saved.
@@strife10301yeah ik that you guys would rather spread lies and deceit to tear down the one true Church. You aren’t the first to try and won’t be the last. The Church has experienced worse popes, controversies, lies, and persecution yet it still prevails. Jesus himself has said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Matt. 16:18)
this is very troubling but there have been worst popes trying to be optimistic
“As long as he didn’t invoke infallibility “
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Roman Catholic Catechism state that all faithful Catholics must always obey and agree with the pope REGARDLESS of if he is speaking "ex cathedra"?
@@thewaterguy17 No. The Catechism says nothing like that. But the Catechism DOES say that people of other religions can be saved.
@@ThatBoomerDude56 Where does the Catechism say that? And if it does, does it contradict the teaching of the Catholic Church that we are saved by God alone? Because the Catholic Church definitively teaches that salvation comes through Christ alone
@@joshualopez9175 Before we even get to the Catechism, you need to address THIS:
One thing that literally EVERY Christian knows with 100% certainty is that people's knowledge of even the existence of the Bible or any teachings or records of events in it is NOT require by Almighty God for people's salvation. Because God didn't make knowledge of any record of the Bible available to hundreds of millions of people who lived and died without ever having a chance to know about it. And it is written in the Bible that God desires everyone to come to acceptance of grace and be saved.
After you acknowledge that fact, then I will go and look up specific statements in the Catholic Catechism.
@@joshualopez9175 The Roman Catholic Church historical only taught that no one outside the R. Catholic Church, even other Christians who uphold Mainstream-Nicene Christian beliefs are saved, but now has become wishy-washy on its official stance; which is now hovering between a medium-sized minority that still believe in their original stance of all people outside of the RCC which they define as the “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church” are not saved (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus), a tiny minority that believe that all Christians are saved and a large minority of Catholics that are borderline quasi-universalist (Catechism of the Catholic Church - CCC 847); there is no clear stance I’ve seen as of yet. I’ve actually heard of Catholics who believe that there are only two conflicting but acceptable answers to this issue (1) only members of the R. Catholic Church are saved as defined in the text known as Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus or (2) hold a quasi-universalist stance of all people of any religion who sincerely seek out deit(ies) but have not found the true God as described in the Gospel are still saved - which is an argument based off of what I believe and hope to be a misinterpretation of CCC 847 by both Catholic laity and “trained” clergy and not the actual teaching of the RCC - due to the fact that CCC 847 was written vaguely it may hold to that implication officially, which some see as the further downfall of Catholic theology in which the RCC is heading in an even worse than expected wrong direction. In other words, some of these Catholics believe that only Roman Catholics are saved (excluding other Christians) or all people who seek “God” or god sincerely in any way (regardless of religion) are also saved; with no in between as found in most other Christian denominations (especially Evangelicals) who believe that all Born-again Christians who accept Jesus Christ as their lord and personal savior, are repentant of their sins, and let Christ rule their heart, are truly saved; with no specific denomination or ecclesiastical leader claiming that they are infallible and the only institution that claims to be in good standing with God in relation to being saved.
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Ecumenical means interdenominational. All (theologically conservative) Evangelicals are and always have been ecumenical with each other, this is what differentiates Evangelicals from Fundamentalist within Theologically Conservative Protestant Christianity. On the topic of ecumenism, Evangelicals (Missional-Revivalist Evangelicals) more so than Mainline Protestants, have (almost always) had open communion with what most of them would describe as believing Christians across several denominations, denominational traditions, and independent non-denominational congregations (with very few exceptions within some Confessional Evangelical groups) even if they don’t have official full communion agreements on the books which most Mainline Protestants generally require because of their preferentially higher view of structural unity/church polity-governance over the concepts of “in essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, love” and “Primary and Secondary issues in Christian theology.” In other words while Evangelicals (Evangelicals proper - Revivalists) from the get-go have been very interdenominational/ecumenical and well known for open communion even though they’re theologically conservative while the Mainline Protestants are/were mostly closed communion with recent allowances through some official full communion agreements - they also happen to be largely theologically liberal. Evangelical believe in “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity” while Catholics, Orthodox, and Mormons (Mormons aren’t Christian but a separate Abrahamic religion like Islam or Rastafarianism) believe in the “one true church” doctrine. All Evangelicals, see themselves more as Christians first and their individual denominations second which especially makes sense when talking about Evangelicals because Evangelicals are an interdenominational/ecumenical community or movement who cooperate with each other and worship together due to largely similar theological beliefs but set boundaries because of distinctions or differences on issues of secondary and tertiary importance.
That’s what ecumenism means, too many people, especially fear mongers don’t knowm the difference between ecumenism/interdenominationalism (being brotherly and sisterly with our Christians brothers and sisters in other denominations) vs. interfaith dialogue and interfaith religious serviceses where someone worships together with apostates, pagans, and people of different religions.
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The Christian Church (a.k.a. The Way, the Church, or Christanity) was founded in 30 AD by Jesus of Nazareth - the Christ, Messiah, Son of God, and Son of Man - through the Holy Spirit at Pentecost - although Jesus also had disciples prior to the offical founding of the Church; the subdivisions known as the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church were founded in 1054 AD, the subdivision known as the Oriental Orthodox Church was founded in 451 AD, the subdivision known as the Church of the East was founded in 431 AD, and the Protestant Reformation officially started in 1517 AD with several minor Proto-Protestant precursors forming prior to it and influencing others - all of these subdivisions are sui iuris braches within the true catholic, apoostolic, orthodox, Nicene, and Christian Church with further internal autocephalous organizational polity structures and distinctives in tradition.
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Even though Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and the Church of the East have a lot of hierarchy, centralized structure, stricter rules and procedures, and believe in the “one true church” doctrine, many of them, even some of their priests are just overtly “Cafeteria Catholics”/Nominally Orthodox (who are very nominal or only culturally Catholic/Orthodox), or even Folk Catholic/Folk Orthodox, some aren’t really devout Christians even by their own Catholic/Orthodox standards thus creating a huge variation in beliefs and huge deviation from core Christian tenants of the faith among individuals that are supposed to be shared by all true (Mainstream-Nicene) Christians regardless of denomination even though on paper there are strict outlines of dogma & hierarchy. While Evangelicals are very decentralized, believe “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity,” and put a higher emphasis on understanding and living out correct Christian teaching as opposed to obsessing over structure and hierarchy like Catholics do; so people who have wonky and unorthodox beliefs when it comes to primary issues tend to leave because in Evangelicalism there’s no point in staying (for the exception of non-Christian Republicans/political conservatives in the United States who don’t go to church & are stealing/co-opting the term for political reasons in collusion with secular media who want to fit their boogymen into neat boxes) because by definition you can’t be an Evangelical or a Christian if you no longer hold to those beliefs; Catholicism, Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy, and Mainline Protestantism are the opposite, Catholics/Orthodox who don’t hold to Catholic/Orthodox beliefs or even basic Christian beliefs are guilt-tripped into staying and are encouraged to stay because a baptized Catholic/Orthodox is still a Catholic/Orthodox even if they no longer believe in the tenants of the faith - most stay because simply being in the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Churches is more important than upholding Catholic/Orthodox or even broadly Christian beliefs. …
… A similar occurrence also happens in Mainline Protestant denominations not because they believe in the “one true church” doctrine (which they don’t), it’s because Mainline Protestant denominations are ready and willing to bend their core beliefs via theological liberalism/theological progressivism to maintain membership, plus (some also obsess over maintaining power/hierarchy as opposed to maintaining biblically orthodox theology and) many maintain membership and participate in church practices (like Baptism, Confirmation, etc.) solely for social and cultural reason even if they don’t believe in the tenets of the faith.
Jesus drew the line in the sand and made it clear in John 14:6 when He said
“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
People truly need to stop trying to figure out how to justify what the Pope said. We need to call a spade a spade. This is a teaching that is not inline with what Jesus taught or what we see written in the Scriptures.
I've tried to explain to Protestants, that a pope is responsible for formulating and canonizing your Bible. Search, the *Council of Rome*, or *Pope Damasus I.*
Why do people use only that quote and not the trillions upon trillions talks of false idols also in the Bible
Literally you could turn to any page at random and it will mention why false idols are bad
@@nathanielgarza9198 You could say that many here idolize the book itself. They also believe the Bible is the word of God. It is, but they don't know why.
@@gabepettinicchio7454 because it is the words of god recorded in paper idk how they would not know that
And the Bible is closer to god then the Pope so if they have to worship one over the other
If the bishops of the Catholic Church were able to know which writings and gospels were true, wouldn't that know what they mean. --- Do youspeak Greek & Hebrew? Do you understand Aramaic? Mostt of those bishops did. The words used in those languages do not mean the same in English, not to mention each other, above.
4:38 wonder if he is including witchcraft in that every religion arrives at God statement
He did say “Masonico” that’s a reference to ”Freemasons” lol go back and listen to it.
Not surprising the jesuits created freemasonry and the illuminati
@@InvestigadorTJ Most of the men that signed our US Constitution were Freemasons, but I also remember that they also broke from the CC.
Who cares about the hippies
He is including the many many individuals with actual power that wants replace god and trample Christianity
@@nathanielgarza9198 Um, right. He is approaching 90 yrs. old. When do you expect him to succeed?
I bet it's a pint of Aquinas if it is not then I would absolutely love to see you on that podcast I'm a Lutheran and very much listened to both you and pints. Along with Pastor Brian wolfmuller throughout my work day.
Go back and rewind the video and listen: The pope also said “Masonico musulmano cristiano” masonico is a reference to the Freemasons
That seriously means he is OK and considers freemasonry.. according to “approved” Catholic stance Freemasonry is prohibited
The Pope needs to read some GK Chesterton and CS Lewis.
And this is just another example why people will look at Catholicism and Christianity in general and say the Bible has been changed over time. The lies hierarchies say about translations is a gigantic problem and why people turn away from Christ, even though that’s not how it should be, but it is
"Trying to reach God" and actually "having a path to God" are very different things.
Trent horn has a good video
The current problem with Catholic Answers is that Trent, Akins and others have become "popesplainers.'' That just causes more confusion.
Pope cope
😂 Yep, the pope is compromised
Even if his statement is off (as he might have chosen the right words, been taken out of context, etc.), that doesn't change the position of the Catholic Church, that God saves alone. Salvation comes through Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life. Catholics fully believe that. To say otherwise would go against what the Church teaches and has taught from the beginning.
It’s called the universal church. That’s their major belief. It’s in the name
Correct, all religions lead to God but not all will meet God unless through Jesus Christ!
Shout out the Sam shamoun reference, I can’t wait for y’all to dialogue
I could see where it could be a language issue, potentially. I’d need to watch the whole exchange, which I’lll look for. But Italian is not his first language-that is probably why he had that flub earlier this year about the word he used for “homosexuality.” Decent chance he didn’t realize it was a really bad term, given his age and the fact it’s not his first language. I’m Eastern Orthodox myself, if it’s relevant, BTW.
All religions, excluding Christianity can lead to the god of this World System, not Jesus.
@@johnwilliam384 Jesus leads to god..because he’s god. What are you talking on about?
That only means: Jehovahs Witnesses the religion that Catholicism had said was the most dangerous of all, is true.
Problem with Sams explanation is that the greeks and romans religions didnt already have knowledge fo jesus. The people and religions Pope was talikng to not only have a knowledge of Jesus but go out of their way to redifine Jesus, Like Islam.
You should watch Sam. Sam has no problem calling out anyone regarding their mischaracterizing Jesus...especially Islam.
@@tishbenn I have and love Sam. I'm just pointing out that Paul was setting up the the Gospel in using the unknown God idol to pagans who have never heard of Jesus. The people the Pope was talking to not only have heard of Jesus through mass media, literature and so on but actually distort who Jesus is in their religious doctrines. The Pope was blasphemous in his dialogue and Sam should call a spade a spade like his usually does.
@marriagebuilding5401 yes. And Sam is not, in anyway, defending the Pope. He tells every Catholic not to "Pope-splain"
The pope completely lost the plot . May the lord forgive his sins and grant him wisdom.
Lot of popes have been corrupt
Never treat another person like absolute authority
Sola scriptura Sola Christus
If everyone tried to imitate Jesus's character then no one would have to be in survival mode needing to harm anyone to live. Jesus life was a great model to follow but letting skeptical people kill you is what he chose to do for people to realize there is life after death and you will be judged by your hearts measure.
The Catholic Catechism explicitly says that people of other religions may go to heaven.
Sources?
@@crimsonking7179 Go look it up yourself. The most recent published book of the catechism is 700 pages and I'm disinclined to go digging through it for a comment on RUclips. What it says is two seemingly contradictory things: (1) there is no salvation outside of the church (which, of course, is anti-Biblical if taken at face value) and (2) we may trust that God in his infinite mercy may bestow grace upon people who actively seek God but who make mistakes in their quest for him. There is, of course, no real contradiction between these two concepts if you interpret them to not be contradictory. And literally everything about religion is open to human interpretation.
@@crimsonking7179 The Catechism IS the source...
What part of the Catechism?
@@gabes230 The part that talks about God's mercy for those who are not familiar with the Bible or the teachings of the Church but who truly in their heart seek the Truth -- in the context of the Biblical teaching that God desires the salvation of everyone.
I could give you the index reference number to the latest English translation of the latest catechism (originally published in Latin, I think, in 1997) as I just now looked it up. But I'll let you look it up yourself because, especially if you're Catholic, you should know these things.
Besides which, anyone who is familiar with the general history of the world and who has read the Bible can derive this principle for themselves.
Amen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
He is trying to push people not to fight over whose religion is the best but to have an open dialog. By saying "All religions are a path to God" he is saying if you believe in God, you are trying to find the truth. And if we fight between the religions and don't have an open dialog, people will be pushed away from Christianity and the real truth.
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Christ is the way, but that doesn't mean what most think it means.
Christ being the way is deeply esoteric, and one does not need to be a Christian to follow it. In fact, many Christians do not.
Hence the parable of the Good Samaritan. As well as the Sheep and Goats.
Yooooo read rev 20:11-15!!!!
All paths do lead to God, the judgement throne 😂
According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), non-Christians can be saved if they are ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and his Church, but still seek God with a sincere heart. The CCC states that "every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved".
The Pope is expressing the actual teachings. He is not or has not change one teaching in cathechism. He is not speaking ex-catherdra (infallibly)
The Pope is bored. So he threw the cat into the chicken coup to ruffle some feathers, and he got what he wanted 😅
But he spoke blasphemy so according to the Catholic ideology he has committed a grave sin
the pope has basically been saying this without saying it for a long time, its obvious this is how he feels about the topic imo
How has he "been" saying this? Because it seems he's always backed up the official Church teaching that Christ alone can save. And even if this comment is off, that doesn't change the position of the Catholic Church, that God saves alone. Salvation comes through Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life. Catholics fully believe that
Religion has nothing to do with it.
Those who die in God's grace and friendship and are perfectly purified, live forever with Christ. They are like God forever, for they "see him as he is", "face to face"
1. John 3:2
1. Cor. 13:12
Rev. 22:4
These Lyrics from Da T.R.U.T.H rings true everyday.
"I had a dream, I stood on the world stage
It was the pope, the pastor of the Dalai lama, and the emom
They all represented the world face
I looked at God with a weird face, because he wouldn't let him in the pearl gates
I'm tying to wrap my mind around it
Why would God not allow it?
Ain't like they drinking, smoking marijuana
Ain't like they gang-banging
What's the problem?
All they ever wanted to do was see his face
They devoted with sincere faith
Only to be disappointed when they got to the top of the staircase
I'm like what does he want?
Is that not enough?
I've seen devout Jews at the well of wall with devout trust
Prayer rugs and Quarnic books
Pastored until our Madonnas up
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it"
Catholicism is doomed.. universalism.. forget your rock: Peter and the keys of the kingdom.. the lineage is done!
It's strange... what "god" is he (the Pope) speaking about? If he's speaking on our triune creator God, Yahweh, he is wrong.
If he is speaking of some other "god", the prince of the power of the air, the god of this world (for now), sure I agree there are many paths that lead to him...
and the church condemned Origen to hell for teaching universialism after he died...
HYpocracy (I don't think he was right there tho)
I'm confident the Catholic Church has never condemned anyone to hell. I'm not sure why you say this man was condemned/stated he's in hell, the Catholic Church doesn't do that
The Roman Catholic Church historical only taught that no one outside the R. Catholic Church, even other Christians who uphold Mainstream-Nicene Christian beliefs are saved, but now has become wishy-washy on its official stance; which is now hovering between a medium-sized minority that still believe in their original stance of all people outside of the RCC which they define as the “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church” are not saved (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus), a tiny minority that believe that all Christians are saved and a large minority of Catholics that are borderline quasi-universalist (Catechism of the Catholic Church - CCC 847); there is no clear stance I’ve seen as of yet. I’ve actually heard of Catholics who believe that there are only two conflicting but acceptable answers to this issue (1) only members of the R. Catholic Church are saved as defined in the text known as Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus or (2) hold a quasi-universalist stance of all people of any religion who sincerely seek out deit(ies) but have not found the true God as described in the Gospel are still saved - which is an argument based off of what I believe and hope to be a misinterpretation of CCC 847 by both Catholic laity and “trained” clergy and not the actual teaching of the RCC - due to the fact that CCC 847 was written vaguely it may hold to that implication officially, which some see as the further downfall of Catholic theology in which the RCC is heading in an even worse than expected wrong direction. In other words, some of these Catholics believe that only Roman Catholics are saved (excluding other Christians) or all people who seek “God” or god sincerely in any way (regardless of religion) are also saved; with no in between as found in most other Christian denominations (especially Evangelicals) who believe that all Born-again Christians who accept Jesus Christ as their lord and personal savior, are repentant of their sins, and let Christ rule their heart, are truly saved; with no specific denomination or ecclesiastical leader claiming that they are infallible and the only institution that claims to be in good standing with God in relation to being saved.
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Ecumenical means interdenominational. All (theologically conservative) Evangelicals are and always have been ecumenical with each other, this is what differentiates Evangelicals from Fundamentalist within Theologically Conservative Protestant Christianity. On the topic of ecumenism, Evangelicals (Missional-Revivalist Evangelicals) more so than Mainline Protestants, have (almost always) had open communion with what most of them would describe as believing Christians across several denominations, denominational traditions, and independent non-denominational congregations (with very few exceptions within some Confessional Evangelical groups) even if they don’t have official full communion agreements on the books which most Mainline Protestants generally require because of their preferentially higher view of structural unity/church polity-governance over the concepts of “in essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, love” and “Primary and Secondary issues in Christian theology.” In other words while Evangelicals (Evangelicals proper - Revivalists) from the get-go have been very interdenominational/ecumenical and well known for open communion even though they’re theologically conservative while the Mainline Protestants are/were mostly closed communion with recent allowances through some official full communion agreements - they also happen to be largely theologically liberal. Evangelical believe in “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity” while Catholics, Orthodox, and Mormons (Mormons aren’t Christian but a separate Abrahamic religion like Islam or Rastafarianism) believe in the “one true church” doctrine. All Evangelicals, see themselves more as Christians first and their individual denominations second which especially makes sense when talking about Evangelicals because Evangelicals are an interdenominational/ecumenical community or movement who cooperate with each other and worship together due to largely similar theological beliefs but set boundaries because of distinctions or differences on issues of secondary and tertiary importance.
That’s what ecumenism means, too many people, especially fear mongers don’t knowm the difference between ecumenism/interdenominationalism (being brotherly and sisterly with our Christians brothers and sisters in other denominations) vs. interfaith dialogue and interfaith religious serviceses where someone worships together with apostates, pagans, and people of different religions.
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The Christian Church (a.k.a. The Way, the Church, or Christanity) was founded in 30 AD by Jesus of Nazareth - the Christ, Messiah, Son of God, and Son of Man - through the Holy Spirit at Pentecost - although Jesus also had disciples prior to the offical founding of the Church; the subdivisions known as the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church were founded in 1054 AD, the subdivision known as the Oriental Orthodox Church was founded in 451 AD, the subdivision known as the Church of the East was founded in 431 AD, and the Protestant Reformation officially started in 1517 AD with several minor Proto-Protestant precursors forming prior to it and influencing others - all of these subdivisions are sui iuris braches within the true catholic, apoostolic, orthodox, Nicene, and Christian Church with further internal autocephalous organizational polity structures and distinctives in tradition.
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Even though Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and the Church of the East have a lot of hierarchy, centralized structure, stricter rules and procedures, and believe in the “one true church” doctrine, many of them, even some of their priests are just overtly “Cafeteria Catholics”/Nominally Orthodox (who are very nominal or only culturally Catholic/Orthodox), or even Folk Catholic/Folk Orthodox, some aren’t really devout Christians even by their own Catholic/Orthodox standards thus creating a huge variation in beliefs and huge deviation from core Christian tenants of the faith among individuals that are supposed to be shared by all true (Mainstream-Nicene) Christians regardless of denomination even though on paper there are strict outlines of dogma & hierarchy. While Evangelicals are very decentralized, believe “in essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, in all things charity,” and put a higher emphasis on understanding and living out correct Christian teaching as opposed to obsessing over structure and hierarchy like Catholics do; so people who have wonky and unorthodox beliefs when it comes to primary issues tend to leave because in Evangelicalism there’s no point in staying (for the exception of non-Christian Republicans/political conservatives in the United States who don’t go to church & are stealing/co-opting the term for political reasons in collusion with secular media who want to fit their boogymen into neat boxes) because by definition you can’t be an Evangelical or a Christian if you no longer hold to those beliefs; Catholicism, Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy, and Mainline Protestantism are the opposite, Catholics/Orthodox who don’t hold to Catholic/Orthodox beliefs or even basic Christian beliefs are guilt-tripped into staying and are encouraged to stay because a baptized Catholic/Orthodox is still a Catholic/Orthodox even if they no longer believe in the tenants of the faith - most stay because simply being in the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Churches is more important than upholding Catholic/Orthodox or even broadly Christian beliefs. …
… A similar occurrence also happens in Mainline Protestant denominations not because they believe in the “one true church” doctrine (which they don’t), it’s because Mainline Protestant denominations are ready and willing to bend their core beliefs via theological liberalism/theological progressivism to maintain membership, plus (some also obsess over maintaining power/hierarchy as opposed to maintaining biblically orthodox theology and) many maintain membership and participate in church practices (like Baptism, Confirmation, etc.) solely for social and cultural reason even if they don’t believe in the tenets of the faith.
The pope can't invoke infallibility if it's contradictory to scripture and the catholic tradition on which it's based. Infallibility was only every successful used once by a pope, and that was concerning Mary. Pope's can be wrong and ignorant. He can't say an infallible statement like "Christianity is a lie" or "Christ isn't God". Their are rules even on him. I'm not catholic but that's the steelman of their views.
Based Pope.
Is that why so many people from other religions that have NDEs say they went to hell and converted to christianity after coming back? Because all roads lead to salvation?
Naw I thought the pope was infallible? Just more excuses to defend idolatry
He wasn't speaking "ex cathedra". He was speaking "ex ano".
I like the pope's big chair! I guess that's what they mean by "watch the throne"!
Ruslan, I hope you see this. Reach out to Sam. He's open to dialog 🙏🏽
Deary me, that’s not just a slip, that’s the basics and he expanded on it🤯
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This pope is paving the way for the next one 😢
All I have to say is The School for Prophets has a lot to say about the Pope. And it’s not good. Watch From Babylon to America. It’s a very damning video in regards to Catholicism.
I was waiting for this video from you hah
Yea this was back in 2015
And (4) he was right.
Is it pints with aquinas?
In a way, all religions do lead to God. In the end we're all going to meet God, it's just... If you don't know Jesus you're not getting into heaven.
So satanism and witchcraft leads to God??
He misspoke. Not like a stutter, more so he didn't choose his words right. I'd also say his approach is wrong. That's valid criticism. In many interviews, he has said Jesus is the only way. Maybe he believes different faiths will lead to Jesus. Is he wrong? Yeah, ok. But I think it's coming from a good place. Just misplaced.
Also, keep in mind he's old. Not everyone keeps a sharp mind past 80. Some people just aren't the same anymore.
Does the pope have a pr team though, how could they let this get out
I don’t know if you could’ve made his stance more clear, he even made the language metaphor and kept ramming the idea that all religions lead to God
He wants the one world religion
Yes. It's called Christianity.
Well no it just shows that the church has begun her passion and our faith is being tested like Jesus said
@@SandalDad We must keep the faith. As always. 🙏
@@Foreign0817 he said all religions are correct, this is not christianity, he said he wanted a new world order, thats the AC religion.
@@heythere6983 Alright, now we're doing conspiracy theories.
Many roads leed to hell to
This is why I can’t be Catholic.
@@MemBirdman You're an anarchist?
@@Foreign0817 Nope.
Oh boy 5:06
I think we're missing the point here that the original point is about not arguing baselessly about religious beliefs. The Pope here is trying to say religions are attempts at reaching God and there should be a healthy respect for others who are trying to "reach" God but in a different way.
I agree that it could have been phrased better but if we were approaching what he is saying within it's context, it's easy to see that he is not contradicting our faith. Now in a discussion about which pathway to God is the best or the only one in factual terms, he can speak on the merits of Christianity with scriptural and historical backing.
The topic is the issue.
He is encouraging peaceful co-existence between religions, not evangelizing. Let's be charitable and graceful towards our brothers and sisters in Christ. If someone follows all of us with a Camera and we had a public role like this one, I am pretty sure we will also speak in ways which will likely get misunderstood by others regularly.
You are lost
okay. God bless
Pope Francis spoke like an unbeliever. Let's all pray for him.
He was specifically talking about the way lay people should treat others when reaching out to them. It's a call to humility.
But when it comes to the centrality of Jesus to him, he is always affirming the traditional understanding.
If you watch Jimmy Akin on this issue, he explains it very well. The Pope's comments were essentially about lay apologetics.
This is just about building the religion of the one world government (aka Babylon). A coming together of people, tongues, beliefs and religions...
Before you reference Sam Shamoun you should do more research on his background...I'll leave it as that...lots of dancing around the truth in this video.....Sam is not even recognized as a Catholic by the Church, he self professes that, as he changes his identity frequently
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. Matthew 10:34
Huxley's Perennialism.
are you even Catholic? if not, why do you care about what the Pope is saying?
Does Pope needs more help from heaven?
YES, all Religions of Mankind LEAD to Father GOD/YHWH... I agree 100% with Pope Francis... The English word "LEAD" does not necessarily mean SAVED... the Book of Revelation, reveals that God/YHWH the Father will be the JUDGE of all Mankind on Judgment Day... therefore, Everybody (All) LEADS to God's Judgment... not to God's Kingdom/Paradise...
Christ said, "No ONE comes to the Father (God) except through ME (Christ Jesus)"... (ref. John 14:6)... Who is "No ONE?"... All Mankind with no exception?... NOPE...
This means "Non-Believers (Pagans, Gentiles, Atheists) can not directly come to the Father (God) and be SAVED but only through Christ Jesus...
The Israelite Jews can still come directly to God/YHWH, remember the 144,000 Sealed 12-Tribes of Israel that God will SAVE (ref. Rev. 7:3)?... If we interpreted "NO ONE" literally, how about those PEOPLE who died before God sent His only Begotten Son (Word/Christ Jesus) to this world?... like Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc.
How about those PEOPLE who died without even HEARING the Good News (O.T./N.T.) Scripture of God before the Apostles could spread the Gospel in the 4 Corners of the world? like the People in the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the People in the very remote and farthest places of the earth, like Antarctica, Greenland, Iceland, Siberia, etc...
What Christ truly meant here, there are 2 GATEWAYS to choose that LEAD to His Father (God/YHWH) on Judgment Day... (ref. Matt. 7:13-14)
FIRST GATEWAY, the narrow way but with guaranteed SALVATION through Christ Jesus... but only a few find to walk and enter this gateway...
SECOND GATEWAY, the wide way of uncertainty to DESTRUCTION through the NORMS (standards) of the World... which many walk and enter this gateway...
Facts and Truth of the Matters, Biblically and Logically speaking... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck then it’s a duck….. sometimes it’s that simple.
Respectfully, what are you trying to say?
I think Sam is mistaken or the Pope is really bad at parallels.
Sam did not Pope-splain. He called the Pope out.
lool
Pope is dead wrong.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
No one comes to the FATHER except through Jesus. This is true because Jesus is the WORD of GOD. Christians always think of Jesus as a human and always forget that He is the WORD of GOD.
Once you hget it into your head that Jesus is WORD of GOD than you can understand how GOD is speaking to all people. Shang Di in China's indigenous religious beliefs is explained to be a GOD exactly like the GOD of the Bible just like Brahma to the Hindus. The Muslims already accept Jesus as a Prophet. Christians should use indigenous religious beliefs to explain to people of various regions who Jesus is to them. And that being that Jesus is the WORD of GOD made flesh. Jesus is Shang Di and Brahma speaking to them. That is the proper understanding and I think that is consistent with what St Paul said as you mentioned.
Christians have a problem explaining who Jesus is because they don't understand themselves.
Like take the idea of the Trinity. Instead of making things up just explain what the Bible says and that is that Jesus is the EORD of GOD and the Holy SPIRIT is the SPIRIT of GOD. And they both come out of GOD the FATHER. that's it. That is how THEY are connected. That is how THEY created everything. Anyway, I could go on and on but I won't.
As a Catholic, I'll admit he shouldn't have said that. Plain and simple. He is not perfect, and he made a mistake. Peter, Paul and many Saints have sinned made mistakes. Does that mean I'll leave the Church? No. The Catholic Church is the fullness of the Faith and I won't leave the Church because he said something I did not like. He wasn't teaching either. This was an informal address. The Catholic Church made it clear that there is no other way besides Jesus. Pope Francis has stated before, when he was teaching with his papal authority, that there is no other way besides Jesus, but no protestants and secular media will cover that because it doesn't suit their agenda. It reminds me of a video Ruslan made regarding church scandals and how the good things that are done by the churches aren't talked about because "nobody wants to talk about planes that land safely"
On a side note, I agree with this 9:18 100%
@@bruhhmomentumm Amen. 🙏
The issue brother is that he has said multiple things that are very sus, look into what he said in 2015 about how Jesus failed on the cross
@@elRAPTORv6 Or provocatours could be taking his words out of context.
@@Foreign0817This has been happening for thousands of years... how many times have humans taken the Bible out of context? To attempt to prove that it is false? If anything, it seems to be true more than ever that we (as humans) REQUIRE a mediator..
@@L0veisl1ght That's one main reason I'm Catholic. We have our beliefs set in stone. Sture it sounds petty. "My interpretation is better than yours." But order is better than anarchy.
Apostate
@@doraemon402 No. He just can't speak his mind right.
@@Foreign0817Paul said that if an angel or even himself preached a different gospel than they would be cursed. Go read Galatians 1:6-10 brother
@@elRAPTORv6 And Francis has said Jesus is the only way. Affirming the gospel.
@@Foreign0817 no he didnt, because other religions say Jesus is not the only way, he agrees with the idea these religions are all different languages to say the same thing, this is new age wording, not christianity.
@@heythere6983 Yes, he did. Many times. He is a Christian, through and through.
The pope is right✝️
Yes he made a mistake but does this disprove Rome? No, there have been worst popes. It’s about having a pope that is important for us. In addition to this, this shows the beginning of the church’s passion which will shake the faith of many.
@@SandalDad True. We are all humans. Even Peter made many mistakes.
I agree guys
Why is having a pope important when Jesus was the model for us
Why is it wrong to say that God is God? And that all religions only truly have one God?? Don't come after me, I'm just trying wondering why what He said is a bad thing..
@@Tjtellsthetruth We never said he was.
Hmm i wouldn't say it's a mispronounced mishap, because he's basically defending all religions being united.
But, i sort of get how it could be taken wrong, because at the end of the day, a spiritual and religious journey does lead to God.
And we Christians believe God, is THE God. They're probably all believing in the same God but they've just got it wrong.
@@RemainRealProductions That is a belief in Catholicism. All, or at least most, of worship is aimed at God, just that many cultures get it wrong and some wildly wrong. But that is how we convert them. Point out the similarities in our beliefs, inch closer and closer, boom: we have new faithful.
For the Orthodox Church, it can be as simple as this: if the Pope of Rome confesses the Orthodox faith, yes, he will once again be first among us. Until then, how can we be in communion with heresy? Putting aside, for the sake of argument, things like infallibility and indefectibility, it still comes down to that: how can we be in communion with heresy? Someone can say "he wasn't speaking infallibly in that moment"; be that as it may, he was still in heresy (over what he said and over other things), and so the Orthodox Church cannot be in communion until there is repentance. Obviously, there are a thousand years of things to discuss, but, to keep it simple, that's what it comes down to in this moment. If someone says we must be in communion with a heretic, that one has denied the integrity of the faith.
Wow, well said