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I always am amazed at how immense Everest is and how trying to climb, it has gone from being seen as a superhuman accomplishment to "a rich man's game." Always learn something here. Thanks for sharing as always
And you only see from Nepal side. It’s even bigger than that but from what I’ve learned the other areas can’t be climbed or are too dangerous to climb!!
If I got stuck in the traffic jam along those ridges on Everest, I would have an absolute panic attack, then use all my oxygen panicking. Better I just watch from home I think 🙂
Great video. The drones are good, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing! And everyone should watch your videos and the expedition you guys did in 2019. It's one of my favorites.
Mountaineering is a calling! It can be magical...it can be nightmarish! You have to be at the top of your game both mentally and physically! Love the channel, Thom!
Thanks for sticking around til the end. If I could do videos that just talked about that and put food on my table, I most assuredly would. Working on it....you might enjoy the member videos (which I provide free on patreon . com/everestmystery). Cheers and thanks so much for your interest!
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Tim that is really great to hear. Growing and evolving is a lifelong process! I have not always been so good at asking for help. It's always good to see your comments, thanks so much Tim!
As always, my boys and I enjoyed the upload. Again, it fostered conversation on whether Mallory summited or not, with all of us being divided lol. We came closer to agreeing on whether the Chinese found Irvine's body, and perhaps Mallory, but one son thinks not. Thanks for the education and the great fun! Love the tee!
It’s extraordinary the man power it takes to do the things that are done on Everest. Sorry I missed your live last weekend, I was sick! Hoping to see one soon!
Another great video about Everest, thank you for the time you put in to produce awesome content. And I love the Jerry shirt! Can't help but think you are listening to the Dead when you are climbing and making videos. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much! You will totally love that the Jerry shit is glow in the dark! If I wear it to a concert you can see it in the darkness, or out by the fire pit.... Thanks for the super kind words about the channel, I'm glad you're enjoying it!
I'm a casual watcher of Everest videos, and I'm not sure I've heard any of those myths in their extreme form. I might have heard the one about Green Boots, and it good to find out that the body has been moved. I'm not denying that you've run into them, but they may not be widespread, or maybe I've just run into sensible videos. The drones are very cool.
The use of drones as assistance and trash removal is something I should have expected but still hit me by surprise a little bit - it's one of the most extreme places on earth, so I guess I just didn't think about it, but it makes sense. There's no going back now, and I think ultimately it will be for the better, especially hauling stuff down. What I fear, however, is that it will just enhance this sense of taking shortcuts to get to the summit and back at all costs, "well, even if I leave my garbage or need more oxygen, there will be drones minutes away that can fix my problem".... I don't like that thought, but hoping that we find ways to preserve the mountain and still allow people to conquer and enjoy it. -Someone who has never been to Everest, but watches a lot of videos
Incredible breaking news about probable finding of Sandy Irvines foot , sock and boot by the National Geographic team. Looking forward to you doing a presentation on it soon!
Hi Thom, you probably know this already but French RUclipsr Inoxtag (>8 million subscribers) made a documentary about his Mount Everest ascension (with over 30 million views), available on RUclips. In it, at the 2:16:05 mark, there is brand new video footage of the May 22nd cornice collapse that killed 2 people this year (or at least what I believe to be brand new). He and his crew were standing very close to it as it happened. I thought you might find it interesting! Best regards, Felix
They turn around and use the same rope that all the climbers are using to go up....thus the logjam. There's not enough room on the ridge for two lines.... Thanks for watching!
Has there ever been a climber that reached the summit carrying their own food, tent, oxygen and everything they need to survive from Katmandu to the summit. Stripping and rebuilding camp alone to push from camp to camp? If not I'd say it's impossible to summit without sherpa/porter help.
If it is a fact that Pan Duo (aka Phantog / Phanthog) in 1975 then denied having said anything about Irvine's body & the camera, not too long after she supposedly said it, then her original statement can safely be ignored.
Thank you sir! I was wondering are folks able to use Drones around the mountain to look for people who go missing like this past season when the snow gave way under them? And in the case of Rob Hall, has his body been buried in snow over the years?
Thanks for your videos. I've learned so much. From a historical perspective did the native Nepalese, Tibetan, Pakistani and Chinese people value the feats of summitting their mountains the way in which western peoples have done? Was the conquering the mountains important for them? Or was that considered irreverent? Are there records of earlier peoples scaling the heights? It seems probable but maybe not ? When did the Chinese first attempt to summit in the 20th century? Before or after 1924 ? Anyway fascinating stuff. And the more recent body cam and drone footage of the peaks is awesome. Wish my dad were alive to see it. He was always interested in exploration and I remember hearing about Mallory and Irvine as well as Hillary and Norgay.
So several comments that were here earlier, made by people criticising B3tt3rh3lp, have 'disappeared' but the bots that duplicate comments on other subjects are running riot. OK.
Another great video! Everest rightfully draws a great deal of interest from the public. It is a centre-point of dramas, both natural and human generated. I feel like the biggest myth I always hear is that Everest is easy to climb. I certainly think it’s fair to say that Everest has been made accessible by the addition of things like ladders, fixed ropes, and above all the assistance of the legendary Sherpa people. Not having any mountaineering experience myself, I’m not going to comment as an authority, but everything I’ve ever seen seems to indicate that Everest is still very challenging even to strong, experienced climbers. If you stripped away all the infrastructure, I really wonder how many people would have the strength and skill to climb it. In a roundabout way, I’m saying that I still think Mt Everest is a fearsome and challenging place. Calling it “easy” sounds absurd to me.
When you see that level of traffic jam in Everest, it’s plain that there are so many people with minimum climbing skills who pay to have Sherpas to drag them up and carry them down. It’s like there’s no challenge anymore. It’s awful.
It is still a monumental achievement. Anyone led to believe it's not challenging should go run up every flight of stairs on the Empire State Building wearing a 25 pound backpack and a covid mask on. That is probably about 1 tenth of how it feels. Sherpas are absolutely critical for the inexperienced....but doing it is still a massive accomplishment that point zero zero zero zero zero something percentage of human being could ever dream of accomplishing.
Very interesting video! Let me ask a couple of dumb questions though. Why can't the drones be used to remove the dead bodies, or even be used to evacuate an injured or incapacitated climber that has no other options for a rescue? 🤔
We as humans have an uncanny knack of screwing up our most beautiful places. The sooner "mountain tourism" is dead, the better. No one has any business being on Everest (or any other 8 thousand + peak for that matter) except for professional climbers.
I think that the real issue is not disrespecting the dead on Evetest, but leaving the exhausted climbers behind to die on Evetest. If the climbers were required by law to abort the climb to rescue the dying, with the climbing permit extended to complete the climb at another date, if those who left others to die in the dead zone were investigated for murder and potential criminal negligence, then at least some of those lives would have been saved. Another issue is the exploitation of Sherpas by the guiding services. Sherpas pay a high price for Everest works with high incidence of strokes later in life. The guiding services which hire them do not pay them enough nor provide them with health insurance to pay for the health problems they are likely to suffer later in life. I think that both, the Sherpa community and the government of Nepal are tightening control over the national park that is Mount Evetest and they are bringing about positive change.
So I do agree with what you say about the bodies.. I wonder if there is one strong exception. Near the Hilary Step, there is a body in which the climber laying head upwards, and the head is holding up a small pile of dirt/gravel/rocks. I'm not sure the gravel would be there otherwise. That pile of gravel just above the dead climbers head appears to be used as a step for the other climbers. Though that does seem to add a bit of better footing, it feels a little distasteful. Are you familiar with that body? Is it one of the bodies that will be attempted to be moved in 2025? I'm not one of those that are unrealistic of the bodies. If anything they serve as a reminder to others. I was just wondering what others thought. Vid of body replied below.
Yes, that is Don Cash. I have done some content about him. I'm already planning a LIVE stream about this video.....so much more could be told! Thanks for watching and for bringing that to my attention. I don't believe he is one of the bodies meant for removal....it's in just too dangerous of a place. Thanks so much!
I think it’s highly unlikely that Mallory and Irvine actually made it to the summit in 1924, and even more unlikely that the Chinese discovered and somehow secretly removed Sandy Irvine’s body from the upper slopes of the mountain in some kind of coverup, but to dismiss legitimate questions about the contradictions and lack of evidence to support the Chinese actually making it to the true summit in 1960, as opposed to one of the infamous false summits on the Northeast Ridge - like the one reached by the Indian climbers in 1996, is spurious at best. Let’s see those summit rocks!
It’s littered more in Trash, body waste and oxygen tanks. Also, the traffic jams do occur but NOT all the time. PLUS…Mt Everest is actually more dangerous now is partly due to LESS SNOW overall opposed to 50 years ago. Walking on lose rock is more dangerous with crampons than snow. Yes, global warming Affects the Himalayas as well. It was good to read controlling the waste & trash on K2 has been occurring for many years. Drones appear to be the future of all things good for Everest 👍
There should be a requirement of having done at least 9 different other mountains before Mount Everest. The license needs to be much higher in price which would allow for less mountaineers on the mountain and avoid "traffic jams". if i was Nepal I would also introduce a "garbage fee" to pay those who have to remove it. This Mountain is holy to the people of Nepal, are some climbers even aware of this?
It was classic for the Chinese and the Russians to store everything in boxes for a later date, only to never tackle the research or never reveal the research. Germans were fastidious w/ data keeping but not Stalin’s (& post) Russia and Mao’s China. For the 1960 female Chinese climber not to remember is suspect, of course. I’ll never understand the Chinese secrecy since Hillary & Norgay summited in 1953. I don’t understand the competition value there. Nice video as always. Thank you.
After what I have seen, some of which on this channel, i dont think china would intentionally supress any information on the discovery of Irvine, it they did find his body and removed it, its most likely that they botched it, improper handling of the body and or improper development of the film, and just said; 'um, Irving who? Never saw him....... Camera? Nope..........' (kicks something under rug before walking away). Now, I'm not saying thats what happened, unless someone from china produces definitive proof we will never know, im just saying IF it happened, thats the most likely scenario, i dont see china gaining anything by suppressing that intentionally
The people taking inexperienced climbers aren't black market....there are many of them. Nepal doesn't require an expedition operator to be licensed. Many operators exploit people by selling a dream and all that those people need to do is pay up. These expedition operators typically are the least expensive, selling expeditions for $35,000, providing high altitude support in some cases where the high altitude 'guide' has zero high altitude experience.
 Shriya Shah-Klorfine, a woman who died in 2012 on Everest, was inexperienced and was guided by a new company. The owner of the company never climbed Everest before. I think if this occurred in Canada or th U.S., there would be a criminal investigation.  Shriya Shah-Klorfine
,.... Well. Anybody hear who have contacts with the Nepalese Autorities? Think a better way for the Nepalese could be for anybody who wants a climbing permit,..... to have climbed ALL the OTHER 7.000 meters ? mountains within NEPAL. Or, failing that, to have paid for permits to do so. That way some sort of ,...... weeding out might have taken place. And/or the requisite skills for climbing Mount Everest been developed.
Thanks for watching! I have tons of videos on this channel, about K2, Shishapangma, Manaslu....these are actually some of the most popular videos on the channel.
He directly mentions/references one of his K2 videos lol... For what it's worth, I certainly enjoyed watching his videos on the other mountains 👍 Highly recommended
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Wow, did you take down my comment? 😢
Bad move to take sponsorship from them. You might want to do your research. Literally a search on RUclips will bring up what you need. There are loads of videos on their shady practices. Go educate yourself. It's not therapy.
They found Sandys foot, family has had DNA to confirm but the sock had his name on it.
I always am amazed at how immense Everest is and how trying to climb, it has gone from being seen as a superhuman accomplishment to "a rich man's game." Always learn something here. Thanks for sharing as always
It is a massive mountain! Thanks as always for being a part of the channel and for supporting what I'm doing
And you only see from Nepal side. It’s even bigger than that but from what I’ve learned the other areas can’t be climbed or are too dangerous to climb!!
If I got stuck in the traffic jam along those ridges on Everest, I would have an absolute panic attack, then use all my oxygen panicking. Better I just watch from home I think 🙂
Very, very wise! :)
Leave the mountain alone,please
@@savannahbrown1170 😂
I don’t know how long you’ve been doing this, but this podcast is really well structured 👏🏻
Thanks so much, I truly appreciate it!
I’m just here for the Jerry Garcia shirt lol. For real though, awesome video as usual. Keep ‘em coming!
Your videos are always so thoughtful and thought-provoking. Thank you for sharing your insight and experiences with your community!
Thank you!
Great video. The drones are good, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing! And everyone should watch your videos and the expedition you guys did in 2019. It's one of my favorites.
Thank you so much, and for watching before it went live to the public!
Surely, if there are deceased people visible to other climbers, it's a timely reminder, that they could be in that position themselves very soon
That would definitely be sobering.
yep and green boots has been used as a marker for yrs
Mountaineering is a calling! It can be magical...it can be nightmarish! You have to be at the top of your game both mentally and physically! Love the channel, Thom!
Thanks so much for watching, I'm happy that you enjoy the channel!
@@EverestMysteryany thoughts ( I’m new here) on closing Mount Everest?
Will you make a video on Sandy Irvine? His boot with his name on his socks has been found? This is crazy news!!!
The only "jam" that I want to get stuck in is with that guy on your shirt. 😎🎸
This is a contender for best comment of the year!
Your closing comment on your videos is a welcome reminder of the value of selfless service. Thank you!
Thanks for sticking around til the end. If I could do videos that just talked about that and put food on my table, I most assuredly would. Working on it....you might enjoy the member videos (which I provide free on patreon . com/everestmystery). Cheers and thanks so much for your interest!
I'm really glad you let BetterHelp be a sponsor. I just used your link and signed up. It's time again. Things are going so good in my life, in a huge part because of your channel, but I'm the master of sabotaging things when they get too good. I've never felt I deserved good things. So this time I really want to stay ahead of positive loving mental health. Thank you Thom.
Tim that is really great to hear. Growing and evolving is a lifelong process! I have not always been so good at asking for help. It's always good to see your comments, thanks so much Tim!
As always, my boys and I enjoyed the upload. Again, it fostered conversation on whether Mallory summited or not, with all of us being divided lol. We came closer to agreeing on whether the Chinese found Irvine's body, and perhaps Mallory, but one son thinks not. Thanks for the education and the great fun! Love the tee!
I love that you watch with your sons! I makes it all worth while... It's good having you here, send my regards to the boys!
@@EverestMystery My boys said to send their regards as well! We all have such an interesting time watching your channel and guests!
It’s extraordinary the man power it takes to do the things that are done on Everest.
Sorry I missed your live last weekend, I was sick! Hoping to see one soon!
They found Sandy it’s on the news today. He was found 7,000 feet below Mallory
Another great video about Everest, thank you for the time you put in to produce awesome content. And I love the Jerry shirt! Can't help but think you are listening to the Dead when you are climbing and making videos. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much! You will totally love that the Jerry shit is glow in the dark! If I wear it to a concert you can see it in the darkness, or out by the fire pit.... Thanks for the super kind words about the channel, I'm glad you're enjoying it!
@@EverestMysterymy pal went to the sphere in Las Vegas to see the Dead cover band. His shirt glows in the dark. The acid people were tripping.
I'm a casual watcher of Everest videos, and I'm not sure I've heard any of those myths in their extreme form. I might have heard the one about Green Boots, and it good to find out that the body has been moved. I'm not denying that you've run into them, but they may not be widespread, or maybe I've just run into sensible videos.
The drones are very cool.
Amazing video again dude. Outstanding content from your channel.... love the Jerry tee shirt also! Thank you.
I truly appreciate it, and only bring out the Jerry tee for special occasions!
@EverestMystery honoured that you replied sir. Look forwards to some more of your videos, fascinating stuff. All the best, Jerry rules.
That drone is fantastic!!
Thom thanks for clarifying the myths and sharing a positive perspective.
There is wiggle room on lots of these, so I'm going to schedule a livestream for this coming Thursday! Thank you as always!
I'm pretty late to the game but I just watched your doc on Disney +. I was like i watch his you tube channel.
That's fantastic, glad you saw it!
@@EverestMystery sorry you couldn't climb
Which documentary is that? I'd love to check it out
Wonderful video as always. Thanks for dispelling the myths. I always get a good education from you!
Thanks for this absorbing reveal, on Everest,and the challenges, inherent,when climbing.💙💛💙
This is the first time i've heard about the drones. What
A great idea! I can see less deaths with this development
I hope that is the case, using this technology to save lives and rid the mountain of garbage. Thanks for watching!
The use of drones as assistance and trash removal is something I should have expected but still hit me by surprise a little bit - it's one of the most extreme places on earth, so I guess I just didn't think about it, but it makes sense. There's no going back now, and I think ultimately it will be for the better, especially hauling stuff down. What I fear, however, is that it will just enhance this sense of taking shortcuts to get to the summit and back at all costs, "well, even if I leave my garbage or need more oxygen, there will be drones minutes away that can fix my problem".... I don't like that thought, but hoping that we find ways to preserve the mountain and still allow people to conquer and enjoy it. -Someone who has never been to Everest, but watches a lot of videos
I can see why the recovery of bodies from the mountain is a good idea but I don’t believe anyone should have to put themselves in any danger to do so.
Thank You for the video.
Great t-shirt, Thom!
Thom has a touch of gray.
A touch of gray to the power of 10 :)
Incredible breaking news about probable finding of Sandy Irvines foot , sock and boot by the National Geographic team. Looking forward to you doing a presentation on it soon!
Hi Thom, you probably know this already but French RUclipsr Inoxtag (>8 million subscribers) made a documentary about his Mount Everest ascension (with over 30 million views), available on RUclips.
In it, at the 2:16:05 mark, there is brand new video footage of the May 22nd cornice collapse that killed 2 people this year (or at least what I believe to be brand new). He and his crew were standing very close to it as it happened. I thought you might find it interesting!
Best regards,
Felix
Regarding that 2019 huge line up to summit. How do you get back down? A different route? Or do you turn around and try to pass everyone going up?
They turn around and use the same rope that all the climbers are using to go up....thus the logjam. There's not enough room on the ridge for two lines.... Thanks for watching!
Has there ever been a climber that reached the summit carrying their own food, tent, oxygen and everything they need to survive from Katmandu to the summit. Stripping and rebuilding camp alone to push from camp to camp?
If not I'd say it's impossible to summit without sherpa/porter help.
The Jerry shirt! Thank you for that. 🥀
If it is a fact that Pan Duo (aka Phantog / Phanthog) in 1975 then denied having said anything about Irvine's body & the camera, not too long after she supposedly said it, then her original statement can safely be ignored.
Thank you sir! I was wondering are folks able to use Drones around the mountain to look for people who go missing like this past season when the snow gave way under them? And in the case of Rob Hall, has his body been buried in snow over the years?
I love your Jerry Garcia shirt. From one dead head to another your videos are very well done.
Thanks for your videos. I've learned so much.
From a historical perspective did the native Nepalese, Tibetan, Pakistani and Chinese people value the feats of summitting their mountains the way in which western peoples have done? Was the conquering the mountains important for them? Or was that considered irreverent? Are there records of earlier peoples scaling the heights? It seems probable but maybe not ? When did the Chinese first attempt to summit in the 20th century? Before or after 1924 ? Anyway fascinating stuff. And the more recent body cam and drone footage of the peaks is awesome. Wish my dad were alive to see it. He was always interested in exploration and I remember hearing about Mallory and Irvine as well as Hillary and Norgay.
So several comments that were here earlier, made by people criticising B3tt3rh3lp, have 'disappeared' but the bots that duplicate comments on other subjects are running riot. OK.
@@feralnonbinaryautistic talking about bots lol
Another great video!
Everest rightfully draws a great deal of interest from the public. It is a centre-point of dramas, both natural and human generated.
I feel like the biggest myth I always hear is that Everest is easy to climb. I certainly think it’s fair to say that Everest has been made accessible by the addition of things like ladders, fixed ropes, and above all the assistance of the legendary Sherpa people. Not having any mountaineering experience myself, I’m not going to comment as an authority, but everything I’ve ever seen seems to indicate that Everest is still very challenging even to strong, experienced climbers. If you stripped away all the infrastructure, I really wonder how many people would have the strength and skill to climb it. In a roundabout way, I’m saying that I still think Mt Everest is a fearsome and challenging place. Calling it “easy” sounds absurd to me.
Great video 👏 thank you 🙏
You're welcome, thanks so much!
When you see that level of traffic jam in Everest, it’s plain that there are so many people with minimum climbing skills who pay to have Sherpas to drag them up and carry them down. It’s like there’s no challenge anymore. It’s awful.
It is still a monumental achievement. Anyone led to believe it's not challenging should go run up every flight of stairs on the Empire State Building wearing a 25 pound backpack and a covid mask on. That is probably about 1 tenth of how it feels. Sherpas are absolutely critical for the inexperienced....but doing it is still a massive accomplishment that point zero zero zero zero zero something percentage of human being could ever dream of accomplishing.
Love this video, thank you. Side note... any chance of a video of the Russian ladies team who perished on mt Lenin?
Thank you and great idea!
Almost twelve thousand people have summitted Everest? It seems very commercialized. Drones will perpetuate this.
Wow! I get the distinct impression that bodies are being moved/removed for, let’s say, promotional reasons.
Very interesting video! Let me ask a couple of dumb questions though. Why can't the drones be used to remove the dead bodies, or even be used to evacuate an injured or incapacitated climber that has no other options for a rescue? 🤔
We as humans have an uncanny knack of screwing up our most beautiful places.
The sooner "mountain tourism" is dead, the better.
No one has any business being on Everest (or any other 8 thousand + peak for that
matter) except for professional climbers.
I think that the real issue is not disrespecting the dead on Evetest, but leaving the exhausted climbers behind to die on Evetest. If the climbers were required by law to abort the climb to rescue the dying, with the climbing permit extended to complete the climb at another date, if those who left others to die in the dead zone were investigated for murder and potential criminal negligence, then at least some of those lives would have been saved. Another issue is the exploitation of Sherpas by the guiding services. Sherpas pay a high price for Everest works with high incidence of strokes later in life. The guiding services which hire them do not pay them enough nor provide them with health insurance to pay for the health problems they are likely to suffer later in life. I think that both, the Sherpa community and the government of Nepal are tightening control over the national park that is Mount Evetest and they are bringing about positive change.
So, all the myths are true. But these are the reasons it's okay.
Props to the Jerry Garcia T-shirt, maing-! 😊
So I do agree with what you say about the bodies.. I wonder if there is one strong exception. Near the Hilary Step, there is a body in which the climber laying head upwards, and the head is holding up a small pile of dirt/gravel/rocks. I'm not sure the gravel would be there otherwise. That pile of gravel just above the dead climbers head appears to be used as a step for the other climbers. Though that does seem to add a bit of better footing, it feels a little distasteful. Are you familiar with that body? Is it one of the bodies that will be attempted to be moved in 2025?
I'm not one of those that are unrealistic of the bodies. If anything they serve as a reminder to others. I was just wondering what others thought. Vid of body replied below.
Yes, that is Don Cash. I have done some content about him. I'm already planning a LIVE stream about this video.....so much more could be told! Thanks for watching and for bringing that to my attention. I don't believe he is one of the bodies meant for removal....it's in just too dangerous of a place. Thanks so much!
Can’t a drone be made that could lift 120kg?? Sorry I don’t understand the science but curious question
Is it true the ski-lift is down for repairs?😁
As far as the garbage is concerned, climbers should be required to pack *everything* they brought in.
I think it’s highly unlikely that Mallory and Irvine actually made it to the summit in 1924, and even more unlikely that the Chinese discovered and somehow secretly removed Sandy Irvine’s body from the upper slopes of the mountain in some kind of coverup, but to dismiss legitimate questions about the contradictions and lack of evidence to support the Chinese actually making it to the true summit in 1960, as opposed to one of the infamous false summits on the Northeast Ridge - like the one reached by the Indian climbers in 1996, is spurious at best. Let’s see those summit rocks!
Can a rock be identified as a summit rock?
It’s littered more in Trash, body waste and oxygen tanks. Also, the traffic jams do occur but NOT all the time. PLUS…Mt Everest is actually more dangerous now is partly due to LESS SNOW overall opposed to 50 years ago. Walking on lose rock is more dangerous with crampons than snow. Yes, global warming Affects the Himalayas as well.
It was good to read controlling the waste & trash on K2 has been occurring for many years. Drones appear to be the future of all things good for Everest 👍
There should be a requirement of having done at least 9 different other mountains before Mount Everest. The license needs to be much higher in price which would allow for less mountaineers on the mountain and avoid "traffic jams". if i was Nepal I would also introduce a "garbage fee" to pay those who have to remove it. This Mountain is holy to the people of Nepal, are some climbers even aware of this?
O boy Tracey is going to be rattled lol
If drones can be used to ferry out waste, or get oxygen to people in trouble…I’m all for that.
It was classic for the Chinese and the Russians to store everything in boxes for a later date, only to never tackle the research or never reveal the research. Germans were fastidious w/ data keeping but not Stalin’s (& post) Russia and Mao’s China. For the 1960 female Chinese climber not to remember is suspect, of course. I’ll never understand the Chinese secrecy since Hillary & Norgay summited in 1953. I don’t understand the competition value there. Nice video as always. Thank you.
I wonder if they could take that garbage put it large containers and throw it off a cliff and pick it up at a lower altitudes.
In the video we discuss the remedy....which is being developed now
Jerry!!!!!!!!!!!
No photo no summit imo
After what I have seen, some of which on this channel, i dont think china would intentionally supress any information on the discovery of Irvine, it they did find his body and removed it, its most likely that they botched it, improper handling of the body and or improper development of the film, and just said; 'um, Irving who? Never saw him....... Camera? Nope..........' (kicks something under rug before walking away). Now, I'm not saying thats what happened, unless someone from china produces definitive proof we will never know, im just saying IF it happened, thats the most likely scenario, i dont see china gaining anything by suppressing that intentionally
‘Traffic jams like this happen from time to time’
_Yeah, from 1996-2024_ 🤦🏼♂️
Right? There are pictures every single year of a huge queue waiting to get to the top. It's wasn't just one or two years
I disagree with the whole money thing.. Do you know there are now Black market Groups that will take inexperienced people..
The people taking inexperienced climbers aren't black market....there are many of them. Nepal doesn't require an expedition operator to be licensed. Many operators exploit people by selling a dream and all that those people need to do is pay up. These expedition operators typically are the least expensive, selling expeditions for $35,000, providing high altitude support in some cases where the high altitude 'guide' has zero high altitude experience.
@@EverestMystery agree

Shriya Shah-Klorfine, a woman who died in 2012 on Everest, was inexperienced and was guided by a new company. The owner of the company never climbed Everest before. I think if this occurred in Canada or th U.S., there would be a criminal investigation.

Shriya Shah-Klorfine
Hmmmm?
The truth is that....Not the truth is is that. Please.
...beginning to learn what it's it's like for your spouse and kids....
,.... Well. Anybody hear who have contacts with the Nepalese Autorities? Think a better way for the Nepalese could be for anybody who wants a climbing permit,..... to have climbed ALL the OTHER 7.000 meters ? mountains within NEPAL. Or, failing that, to have paid for permits to do so. That way some sort of ,...... weeding out might have taken place. And/or the requisite skills for climbing Mount Everest been developed.
You know, you can do other videos about K2, Kilimanjaro etc. Everest is overdone man
Go somewhere else then, man.
Thanks for watching! I have tons of videos on this channel, about K2, Shishapangma, Manaslu....these are actually some of the most popular videos on the channel.
He directly mentions/references one of his K2 videos lol... For what it's worth, I certainly enjoyed watching his videos on the other mountains 👍 Highly recommended
I’ll never be bored hearing about Everest, Thom!
I choose to believe the final "myth." repression of Western achievement is a perfectly Chinese thing to do
I can only how fat and lazy some people are in these comments saying anybody can climb everest if they are rich.
Thank you for the Everest Ohm Thom.🏔️
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