CAN YOU DRIFT IN PROJECT CARS 2 ? - PREVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Can you drift in project cars 2 and what is it like ? In this video we take a Ferrari and BMW out in the press version of PC2 for some sideways driving at Brno Circuit. If you want to see some more drifting in Project Cars 2 check out this rather nifty video by hobbnob1 • Project CARS 2 Driftin...
So to answer the opening question, yes you can drift in PC2 but its not easy. For me what's especially enjoyable though is drifting in the rain with the hopes that it will one day come in handy next time I have to avoid a pheasant.
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Short answer, that GamerMuscle can't drift doesn't mean you can't do it in pCARS2.
Anekdote about that hobbnob1 guy, I've once had a race with him in the Ginetta G40 with very variable weather in pCARS1. While everyone was spinning around and crashing off because of the rain, he didn't even need to make a pit stop before it dried up again.
Hahaha well it wasn't *that* bad, if it was anything other than the G40 I probably would have changed the slicks :)
The truth is that you have to consume at least 10 packets of biscuits to have the HOBNOB1 skills, I have just had a cookie so i'm well on my way to being a Japanese driftooo champion.
Drifting and extreme driving is a great tool to expose physics, Pcars was utterly terrible for drifting, like much else to do with PC2, doesnt look like its improved much.
Hash_Sim lol what? 😕
Hash_Sim, you are completely wrong.
Totally was not expecting the shoutout at the end, cheers mate!
Only did it because you are named after a biscuit I happen to like.
Way to crush a mans dreams. LOL
Drifting isnt driving badly unless you drift badly
Man i never played any car-sims, never intendet to and i think i got to your channel because of a CS:GO video but damn it is enjoyable listening to you about the ins and outs of PC2 and showcasing how cool it would be to own a driving-rig :D
Get a cheep wheel and slap it on a desk ! I still play CSGO every now and again , I had a 6 month brake from it though so my rank went from the sheriff badge to one before the AK which has the bonus that everyone is terrible so I can feel half ok at the game lol.
i think i will look into it once i return from my holiday :) thanks for the reply and keep it up
You can get a used g27 for under 100$ which is the best starter kit out there. It includes a shifter (the newer g29 doesn't) and it's the same hardware as the new g29.
You really gotta try out a FFB wheel with a racing sim, it's a gaming experience unlike any other. It adds a whole nother level of immersion. It'd be like if you could play CS or Battlefield with a model of an actual gun in your hand and could run around and actually crouch down behind cover and take aim and could feel the impact of when you get shot.
For me personally, having played Assetto for over a year now, not being able to go back to PC1's poor handling - it will be VERY interesting indeed, to see how long people (like me) will play Project Cars 2, and then more importantly, once the novelty wears off, which game between PC2 & AC will be the most played from that point on?
Should've locked the diff in the bmw it made drifting sooooo much smoother and predictable in the wet in PC1
I love your british accent! Hear you talk is quite an enjoyable thing :p
@GamerMuscleVideos you're selling yourself short, mate! I've been onboard with the game since they opened WMD and I have a hard time pulling angles anywhere near what you're pulling! You're good! Not awesome, but definitely quite competent! =)
Also - great video! Love your work and coverage for the title! Keep on trucking and chugging tea! xD
A few days ago i mentioned to you (or Sim Racing Paddock, I don't remember) that I think PC2 has the best rain in any racing game.
Now after seeing that BMW drive in the rain I have to take that back. It looks ridiculous when the almost very same salt crystal shaped raindrops reappear on your windshield every ~1.02 seconds all at once (!)
wats the fuss about PC2 has the best rain in any racing game? 99.99 RL racing replay/live in utube is dry n clear day..well u can watch cloudy but not crazy rain on BritishGT season..
It seems really unrealistic how they just stick there. In real life driving at highway speeds they just streak up my windshield.
Tighter than a 2008 bank manager 😂😂😂😂
Been sim racing Drifting since rFactor days, LFS has the best tyre and slip/grip physics around barring iRacing of course! Nothing compares to LFS!!! It's that and AC for me :)
1:49 _'... and then snow and ice... you're basically driving a shopping trolley'_ :))
sweet so we can go side ways in PC2 which is what i was hoping for and btw GM how the hell do you drift with paddle shifters that by it self gives you -25% drift skill XD
maybe its better with static paddle shifters because i find it hard to shift some times while the wheel is spinning if the paddles are attached to it, but using an H shifter sure makes it easier and a hand brake as well :3
Seriously... If you have to make setup changes to get LaFerrari sideways on the sunny weather, which is in reality a monstrous almost 1000hp 458-like drift machine then you know that something is very wrong with the physics.
How to go sideways LFS shown years ago and then Assetto Corsa brought it to completly new level.
By default this car has very grippy sport tires. Every Racecar driver said they are ultra grippy on a dry track.
For longer slides you should had upped the front tire pressure too, so you can understeer more during the drift (yes, you do understeer under some drift techniques, but some are not that obvious)
Hello! And can we drifting in Gran Turismo Sport??? that is the next biggest question! Thanks the answer! 😉🦌
The Sliders yes, we will can drifting in GTSport, and it's quite easy and funny. In PC2 I don't know, but in PC1 it's almost impossible do It for me, and in GTSport I can do It easyly jejeje
Stopped watching the second you said you're not a good drifter.
Honestly... doesn't look that bad. Not sure if I'll buy day one... but it's now more likely I will buy this.
Funny as hell this guy is.
because he's the love child of John Cleese & Eric Idle
Guys I'm really struggling with drift setups in this game?
How can I go about it? Toe? Pressure? Diff?
Any help is really appreciated 🤜🏿🤛🏿
adds toe in, uses a rear engine ferrari as drift car. hmm...
Problem was you were in neutral the whole time!
Easy error to make ! ;)
I've always drifted with the stock setup.
I even did with a xbox one controller with the radbul, on Pcars 2 ( the video is on my channel ).
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I don't want non PC2 content !
More physics and handling vids !
Random question I know and if you're intending to cover the cars in another video then sort but I just thought of it when you were driving the LaFerrari. But do the cars that are hybrids have hybrid settings like Assetto Corsa? Thanks.
Well, the weather Looks cool, and the physics have improved massively, that said, the physics in PC2 is still not right, although it is allot more drivable than pc1 which was like driving on ice, it's still clear that the developers of the game do not understand racing lines and physics, It's all well and good that you can drift on PC2, that doesn't mean the physics are accurate, you can drift on Need For speed, but we all know that's not realistic, and yes it has some rain affects big deal, the rain looks unrealistic as it hits the car, it's more like somone is throwing rain drops at the car rather than natural rain fall, I feel drive club did a far better Job with weather affects. And lets be honest, what is this video really trying to say, PC2 is better than Asseto Corsa, because it has weather affects and you can drift, well as I mentioned you can do the same thing on Need for Speed, it doesn;t make it an accruate racing sim. The Truth is, Asseto Corsa is a 100 times more accurate in everyway, the Drving physics are Incredable, The track accruacy is Laser generated and really accurate, The car models are perfect, more detailed, dispite the lack of day night cycles and weather affects, Asseto corsa is by far the most accurate realistic driving/racing sim, today, and it's a few years older than PC2, the fact that AC is Still Better even with imroved physics and graphics, says allot about Asseto Corsa, Pc2 is a really good Game and I really like Playing it, the physics are Good, and the Graphics and sounds are Good, But Asseto Corsa is still better and is The Best Racing sim today, and doesn't get the respect it deserves.
why is it his steering wheeling can rotate sooooo much more than mine can. in my project cars 2 the drivers hands are glued to the wheel? is there a setting to change this?
you're gonna be big one day trust me
U dont need to fw toe too much, just enough camber ajustments and stiffen the fuck outta the anti roll bar in the back
Can someone explain to me? I drift in AC with everything off but in this game its hard to control the car. The steering go fast the other direction and you cant control.. which one is more realistic ?
Mr Shehabi from my experience with both of these games and real life drift I reckon AC represents way better drift simulation close to what u may get in reality IMHO
Should have used the mx5 radbull
Unfortunately to make PC2 more realistic than PC1 You have to a NVQ in hair dressing or the car stays locked.
GamerMuscleVideos well, that's a shame
GamerMuscleVideos Oh wow what an ignorant comment from a supposed car guy. The MX-5 is one of the most respected sports and track cars on this planet.
What a load of shit that is^
Rude Boi it's 1200+ bhp! it's not going to be easy I'd it. just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's shit. you've got to practice!
Since you are a big fan of richard burns rally, do you know where i can download some mods that make the game looking nice ? And do you drive with 900° in that Game ?
Thanks so much, keep on the good work
+Denis Freerun not sure about visual mods if you Google rbr shader mod I think there is one for the lighting. And yes I use 900 rotation but I'd use less if I was using a t300 or g29.
I'm maybe changing my mind on PC2 since i see that direction looks not idioticly hard for nothing
Help! I cant use half gas. Always when i press the gas its going full. What to do?!?!
Is Project Cars 2 just full of new cars?
i turn my wheel like that it catches fire lol
I've see. A video of a guy that was sent out to the project cars studio and he was drifting. Away with the red bull car
*Over 4 Bar* at the rear! LOL
Dead body in the boot, will that be a DLC or included with the game? Probably a bloody DLC pffff.
You get the dead body for free when you attend gamer muscle drift school.
Your too modest, you look pretty handy to me.
+baccattack watch guys that are good they not only get it side ways and hold it but do it really smooth and use all the track. I think I'm 60% of the way there lol
You were maintaining some pretty long drifts. A hundred times better than my pathetic attempts!
cmon you know he spent the whole night recording a 9 min video, they were all lucky slides stitched together :)
The top gear method in action !
Sold!
You're music to my ears mr. Muscle.
In my dreams this is what all attractive women think.
Ummm, for drifting you want as much grip as possible. So toe in on the rear and less pressure.
The whole point of drifting is to have fun with no grip, ot to have lots of it.
M de Sa Errr, no. You need lots of grip in drifting. Any professional car setup will be running 0.0 rear camber, between 0.15-0.30 toe in rear. And anywhere down to 10 psi in the rear tyres.
My understanding is that you want lots of grip with the front tires and then minimal grip with the rear tires. The idea being that you can then direct the car easily with the front and have good control and then pop the back out on the power and play with it.
Of course real drift setups will be more nuanced and based on getting certain amounts of grip profiles and achiving varing degrees of lateral grip probably dependent on the type of track and how tight or long the corners are on a given track.
I'm also sure different cars will have different setups to best get them to drift in a way that's easily controllable especially when it comes to cars that have tons of power vs cars that don't and then what tires happen to be being used.
For this video I was just being quick and dirty :)
GamerMuscleVideos I'm not getting confused what so ever. The reason a pro car runs around the 10 psi mark in the rears is dead simple. Air and rubber both heat under friction. Drifting takes this to an extreme. The best way to keep the tyres from completely overheating and losing all grip is by lowering rear tyre pressure right down.
As for front setup, camber is defined by the front geometry. With some cars needing up to -6 camber. But for the purposes of this. Lets say you want to setup a Nissan s15 with full wisefab arms. Caster comes set to -3.5 degrees and suggested front camber is -4. Pair this with around 0.4 degrees of toe out to help with turn in and then what ever tyre pressure is appropriate for your wheel tyre size, so between about 25-30 psi.
Naturally damping is setup much the same way a normal race car is. Though usually the dampers come with a much softer range of adjustment. Spring rates are variable but for an s15 a fairly normal set is 9kg front and 4kg rear.
So yes, you do indeed want front grip with a skid car but, you want equal rear end grip. Drifting is much much more about a balanced setup than people tend to realise.
That makes sense , I'll have to try lower pressure with other setup changes and see if its a bit more predictable !
If it's a "sim" then yes as it's possible in real life
Assetto Corsa is the best balance between drift and GT. pCARS2 is definitely better than pCARS, although not as good as Assetto Corsa.
Hi GMV, I asked you a question in your VR preview.
You mentioned supersampling in PC2 but picture clarity at the same resolution differs game to game in VR.
Would you say picture clarity is better than AC, the same or worse with same HMD. same res.
Thanks.
PC2 in VR lets you run AA so you can get it looking quite nice a and smooth without SS but SS obviously makes things look more crisp at a cost to performance. I think you can get the same sort of clarty as you get with AC but PC2 does not run as well ( press version ) as AC. Though you have to keep in mind that PC2 is doing more advanced lighting and weather than AC so interms of what you get visualy PC2 runs as well as AC it just has to do more.
If you have a slower PC obviously AC will run better than PC2 in the same way that LFS runs better than AC.
For solid figures and performance / performance at different quality settings and the end visuals we will have to wait for the final version of the game. The press version I am using is 1+ months old and not fully optimised so it wont be representative of the final game in that regard.
Thanks man. That' was a comprehensive answer.
Screen door is an issue for me with AC but I have noticed it is more prominent in some games than others.
It isn't just screen door though, even with SS maxed the visuals still appear fairly low res and the distance just a pixilated blur.
I guess I will have to wait for the hardware to improve to get what for me would be desirable clarity.
Great previews though.
is there any reason why SMS can't sent you a fresh new version?
Did you turn PP off in AC , I find that makes it look sharper
The press version is probably just a good solid build interms of stability so good for previews. I'd expect them to send out a review / close to gold build later on. As to if I get that will be down to the Pacman and if he is happy or not with me.
Does anyone know how I can drift with my friend online using the f150 rtr without lowering my pc2 license rating?
Why is it that your voice makes me think that Chris Evans is talking. Not even cool Chris Evans who is Captain America, I mean former Top Gear presenter Chris Evans.
does it support the oculus rift ?
YES
Hi do u playing with PS4 controller? Do u know maybe that pc2 easier to drive then pc1? Then I will maybe pre order it
No I play with a FFB wheel, I have tested it with controller and seemed ok , still hard though !
GamerMuscleVideos But is it improved? PC1 was not easy.
That windshield rain animation looks so stupid...
I thought it was ok , I mean its not THE BEST / drive club good but its not eye wrenching bad it does the job and feels wet to me.
Don't forget you can drift better when driving a yellow car.
;-)
I hear him talking...I don´t see his lips moving....Ventrilloquist?
Years of training !
It's the kind of hidden skill you only develop after imbibing copious amounts of tea!
WHY is smoke coming from your front tyres 😂😂😂 ffs these creators never watched drifting in real life ??
It’s nearly impossible to drift regular road cars with a controller in this game. Don’t get why they would ruin the experience as most people who buy this game are going to play with a controller!
You have to set up the car a lot more in pc2
Using a wheel I see
That drift looks like Gran Turismo. A lot too easy and assisted...
In what way is drifting on GT assisted lol. Between AC, GT, FM GT is far more difficult to be consistent at on the wheel.
lollll wtf, are you kidding me? You probably never played AC, so just nevermind lol omg!
GT drifting is ridiculous. Especially on glass tires like that game has.
I play AC daily and its very easy to drift on, just like in real life. Just because something is difficult, doesnt mean its close to reality.
Isho GT, That's my point, it's a lot too ez in Gran Turismo and Project cars 2 look the same. If you play with a wheel, AC it's a lot harder than GT and closer to the reality.
Is it possible to get a build of the game? And if yes how
No
Email namco
Is TC off in this video?
+Jesper should be you can set it on both gam options + car options.
your steering inputs are so unrealistic,is the ffb to dead to spin the wheel for you when the car kicks round,plus you can see you are not running 1;1 steering rotation,90 degs u turn the wheel,the in game wheel turn 180.
sorry but you really should only do a can you drift video of any game after trying to master it for weeks not hours
Drifting in real life isn't hard, if it was realistic people that both drift in real life or play the good sims should be able to drift fine in other good sims, the wheel rotation isn't the issue it's the FFB.
Project CARS 2 does not serve to do Drifting in the third person, the
camera is fixed from behind the car, as if it were attached to the
car, removing the game's sense of reality, the camera does not help
when you turn a corner in third person, in any game mode is the same,
should make a patch to make the car look better in the third person,
and so more adrenaline, because you can not see the front wheels when
you turn, it is as if you drive a box of milk, or the car you can
only see the registration, I do not like it for that, I prefer the
grid autosport Drifting, I would like to add a new camera, which one
can modify to put it to taste and choose what side to look in the
curves or Drifting
Project CARS 2 no sirve para hacer Drifting en tercera persona, la
camara esta fija desde atras del carro, como si fuera pegada al car,
quitandole sentido de realidad al juego, la camara no ayuda cuando
giras en una curva en tercera persona, en cualquier modo de juego es
lo mismo, deberian de hacer un parche para que el carro se vea mejor
en tercera persona, y asi de mas adrenalina, por que no se ven ni las
ruedas de adelante cuando giras, es como si se conduce una caja de
leche, o del carro solo le puedas ver la matricula, no me agrada por
eso, prefiero el grid autosport Drifting, quisiera que agregen una
nueva camara, que uno pueda modificar para ponerla al gusto y elegir
que tan de lado se vea en las curvas o el Drifting
What the car damage like
Better than most sims , not as nice as everyone would like it to be lol no where close to next car game or beam NG !
"we do have some footage of me driving badly" well...don't forget, you're always a bad driver, don't mention the word SOME.
The key is to pretend you are a pro driver + blame conditions , the car , the track , other people. That way you get to keep the ego going and don't have to feel useless at life.
GamerMuscleVideos Your humor is absolute gold.
can you? ;)
Not very well :'(
DRIFTING
+Tomek Czajkowski I feel like I got some drifts in there and not just oversteer , as I was holding it in the throttle at times.
aye broski you did good, I'm just voicing my opinions ;) After watching your videos I might actually buy this game! Seems like they actually improved FFB/physics enough for it to be playable.
还可以，但是没有我厉害
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Project cars drift is soooo crap, totally unrealistic. Too much over steer was able to go past 1st gear, in mx5 absolute nightmare. Mucked around with setting for about 20mins still horrible. Conclusion no more drifting for me, racing feels very good and has realistic feel but drift stinks
PS: When is the next stream?
........sadface....
Not having the best of time with life at the moment so videos are easier to do right now , I also quite enjoy making them / find them relaxing to make so helps me get on ! If I'm not homless and when things settle down I'll get back to streaming, sorry if it takes some time though.
Oh, well I hope you get it all sorted out soon.
Take all the time you need, I enjoy your videos. ;)
It's still better than my attempt on drifting on AC
that's because it's obviously easier here
No, I don't agree it's easier honestly.
Ac drifting ain't hard either. Who cares, a good drifter can drift in any game.
You can't really drift because of the physics and tire model which are average at best.
You have no idea.
no idea???
Are you testing the game? If not then indeed, you have no idea. I have no idea to, but the game is looking really really promising.
Idk if you have drove or owned any bmw m cars but irl in 2nd or 3rd in the rain with that much throttle drifting would be a breeze lol even with MUCH wider tires than stock. My old e36 (usa) with wot in 2nd or 3rd would never need that much throttle once broken to maintain a drift in the wet..... nor would the spin be that controllable with that amt of throttle if wet .......and thts a SLOW car..... that wet performance looks like my dry performance. I could pin point time and time again when its unrealistic but i know its a game...... its just (in this build) not very realistic. I was very disappointed with pcars1. Hopefully this iteration is better but its not looking like that.
hjbom3ega project cars 2 tire model seems kind of inconsistent, its a huge step up from project cars 1 but its still not perfect yet. Funny enough Gran turismo sport seems to drift a lot more consistent and predictable.
If I want to drift, I will go to the river with an inner tube.
Ouch...this looks more like exaggerated Forza physics than realistic behaviour but at least it looks fun.
LMAO you think a good drifting set-up is airing up the rear tires. SMH
I didn't say it was a good setup , it did make the rear looser than a caravan in tornado though.
I think it still will give you less grip but I think you are supposed to lower tyre pressure as it then heats them up to a point they are barely working at all.
Worst choice of cars, the 1M could have a good choice for the dry though. Please learn how to drift for Kunos sake, you have all the equipment, learn to use it properly in AC
WTF? This seems like Assetto Corsa
Ζήσης Δούκας More like Forza.
Ζήσης Δούκας It's better.
pCars salesman..
Urban Chaos 2.0 your a sad individual smh
Lol to all those freaks who wish death on strangers via internet and cause of a videogame.
It doesn't look natural. But it's not simulator unfortunately.
it's still looks like toy against to AC
AC is a toy compare to rf2 and iR...
All 4 are toys..but AC has more Posh.
adakar83 driftinh isnt right on ir or fr2?assetto has it all
They are all toys to be honest , even though I do like AC the most when it comes to FFB and normal conditions.
Why would you :D
you just said less grip on a cloudy day than on a sunny day........ DO you even race bro? lmao That is like FORZA logic
cloudy day = lower temps = less grip ... what I`m missing in you post ? :)
I'm just commenting to see what +Noggin41's response is
Unless I'm going more mad than I already am I'm pretty sure a warmer track = more grip normally. Cloudy day = lower temperature + possibility that the track was recently damp. Though I know in some cases in reality things can be somewhat counter intuitive.
Do you even physics or Race or know anything about cars in general.
Im fascinated to hear Noggins response too.