2:43 Actually Stalin had different reasons for helping Israel. He believed Israel would become a Socialist nation given how many of its founders where Socialist or Social democrats. While he saw Arab nations as British or French puppets ruled by corrupt monarchies and capitalists.
@@footballfan5462 No he was wrong because in a long terms,Israel instead became a pro west country in the cold war.What he thinks happened when he helped Israel backfired on him
@@footballfan5462 yes I am from jordan and we are puppet all arab rulers are put by the west and all of them are corrupted and people are becoming similar to them but this is arranged by zionism which controls the world
Israel didn’t instigate the conflict-this guy is so biased. Britain and France instigated it since Nasser seized canal and they wanted it back and Israel were major boots on the ground to help them out. And Israel had an interest because they were not recognized, called the “Zionist Regime” by Egypt and Jordan, among other Arab states, and Egypt under Nasser was the most vocal proponent of attacking Israel at that time, giving major support to the nascent group later becoming Fatah and PLO who were already committing cross border raids into Israel.
Jewish politicians having to chose between an independence and a jordan integration stance be intresting. Some televangelist donate masive amounds of money to pro isreal millitas. The more things change
israel makes no major difference in the world, maybe more peace in the middle east, but iran, turkiye, and saudi arabia would all be competing against each other
I "agree" with your timeline (insofar as someone can agree to an alternate history). I disagree with the map, Egypt had no legal or ethnic claim over the Negev. Likewise, Syria had no legal or ethnic claims to the Jordan River valley. These territories, legally part of the Mandate of Palestine, would pass to this new Kingdom of Jordan, with a Jewish autonomy as you described and as outlined in the Abdullah-Weisman accords. Also, I disagree with the name; Palestine was labeled as "Cisjordan" (where the term "West Bank" comes from) while modern-day Jordan was officially called "The Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan" (and labeled by some as "East Bank"). Simply calling it "The Kingdom of Jordan" would be enough; the modern-day Kingdom of Jordan only got that name after the war, as it annexed the West Bank. As such, you could've just called it "The Kingdom of Jordan". PS: I'm a Palestian Jordanian.
True, though Egypt had ruled over the region in centuries past and may see that as justification to take the region regardless Atop that, they didn't have a legal claim to the Gaza strip but still took and administered it for some time until Israel took it in turn Colonial borders may not necessarily be respected, though it is a valid point considering how dedicated to the rules based international order we became following the mass bloodshed of WW2
Am i allowed to know the religious, ethnic, or ideological composition of your family? Because while i've seen people disagree with each other regarding the Arab-Israeli issues, i've never seen any such disagreements inside a single family or household.
@@taufiqutomo Jewish of Central European origin. Surprisingly the older generations in my family have very different opinions on the Palestine/Israel conflict but the younger genes are more pro Palestine
Grandchildren of Europeans occupying the middle of the middle east is not to be celebrated as an "arrival of a new member of the international community" these thing to do with israel is let it die out. Shame the terrorists that run dc keep it a military powerhouse with YOUR taxes.
The other scenario I could see happening is eventually homogeneity. Since the Palestinian and Jordanian people would be allowed free migrationthroughthe country, many may eventuallymove in fromrural areas to the coastal cities. And since the JAZ people would be citizens too they'd be allowed to migrate and so some might move to rural areas for various reasons, kibbutzim rural settlements may also be developed in certain areas depending on how people feel and some Jewish people may move to other major cities in the nation (Jerusalem, Amman, Zarqa, Aqaba etc). In addition, immigration to the JAZ would be substantially lower. So after a few decades it may become a mixed homogeneous Arab state with a substantial (10-20%) Jewish minority with maybe a higher coastal population (25-30%) than an eastern population (5-10%). But depending on how things work out, the general population may be fine with this. There would be radical Zionists still but the general Jewish and Arab population will likely just be happy to accept a diverse and happy mix of peoples in a society that is reasonably prosperous
@@rasverixxyleighraq1509 The video is shit song hang on it’s words like the gospel. I like to think I’m unbiased. The IDF isn’t like he makes it seem. If Jerusalem falls it’s going to collapse any organised Jewish resistance collapses. If the war carried on any longer Israel would have been overwhelmed the Arabs did have such a huge number advantage. I’ll admit I didn’t watch the video but I’ve watched it now and it’s dogshit. Everything he says is wrong. I’m not even sure who he’s biased towards or if he’s just stupid.
I won't say they would ever become such well-mixed diverse singular communities, rather they will live within same framework as millet system under the Ottoman. Having enfranchisement of group right that barred from involvement partaken by majority of Arab mass, especially in legal and cultural sense, imagine it alike similar socio-political situation that Bosnia-Herzegovina is having now. Thus, Jewish kinda have an equal status on paper, but still will being considered as 2nd class like during segregation Jim Crow era in USA, even worse their conservative elite would like to keeping status quo since this empowering the rabbis class over domestic affairs. Please, despite myself liking your path of alteration, but keep it being realistic, Middle East was within an era of politic and social experiment that already without foundation as strong as Turks that has its recent imperialistic and centralizing effort shaping them as modern secular nation-state which having enough time to growing own local ethnic elites as bulwark of development. Meanwhile the Arabs are and were lacking in centralize development, as we can see with how each of Arab sub-groub that swore fealty towards each sects or more with political party as its vessel, thus reasoning why inability to easily enforce top-down approach on them. Why? Because most of Arab elite during Tanzimat Reformation and even before that, have been in stepped out position limited to the religious affair as where they could be involved with to steer process of policy-making, heck even being considered as untrustworthy tax collectors that explain lack of any capital needed by Ottoman to ever industrialize in boosted pace.
There is 0 chance for any JAZ after an Israeli loss. The animosities are just too big for the Arabs to propose an autonomy for Jews. While probably it wouldn't turn out Holocaust #2, except the casual massacare, it'll probably Israel's version of the Nakba. All the Jews would probably be loaded to boats sending them back to Europe. I don't think Jordan would get much in terms of territory. Egypt was the strongest army, and it was the closest to bring Israel to defeat. So I guess after 1948 Palestine would become a small district in Egypt. However, the Suez crisis might have occured earlier, and in that case UK and France might have invaded Palestine under the pretence to recreate the Israel, giving them infrastructure that enables them to protect the Suez canal.
No one in Europe would accept them. There were pogroms in Poland against Jews who tried to retake their properties and even the USA didn’t want them. Latin America might accept them but it wouldn’t pay for them to come and do you think the Arabs would let them keep any of their valuables? At best they’d get a trunk full of clothes if that. I’m not saying this to demonise the Arabs but they despised the Jews and most the invading armies didn’t have enough discipline so mass rapes and massacres would have definitely occurred. Egyptians could probably keep these minor but the others I don’t think so. Your right it wouldn’t be a holocaust but most of the Jews would probably die to starvation without anywhere to flee. Not exactly genocide because they didn’t have the intention to exterminate them but they wouldn’t help them either. Also no one’s intervening for Israel they don’t care enough.
Probably not that last part. Jews would likely be soured by their relationship with Europe and most would not make it back with most who cant flee ending up eventually assimilating into the local palestinean jewish population but with seriously diminished rights. In that scenario the idea of zionism while not completely lost is mostly shattered; by trying to create a nationstate they caused the very thing the sought to avoid. Which also likely changes the rest of the diaspora's hope of zionism succeeding. The realization of the only way to survive is to remain in diaspora begins to take favor. The UK and France as a result would have even less to bargain with since Palestine and Egypt would likely site the neocolonialist stances, Jews would likely say Europe failed them and western nations would be less likely to escalate it all based on pressures of constant war.
I think this would be the best outcome, I believe eventually both the JAZ and possible West Bank/Gaza-Palestinian areas would eventually be allowed independence and although extremism on both sides would always exist, I think that with both sides relatively happy after all the independence was obtained I doubt any major international wars would occur. I actually now wish this was how it'd worked out. Yet another What-If scenario I feel would be better than the reality
Good to see you, Mitch! Hell of a topic to return with, but I'm glad to see it. I'm in the camp that the Western allies would back Israel if things started going in Arab favor and it would be as simple as that. Of course and, as usual, hindsight lends only to speculation. At least you do it well, with multiple possible outcomes.
@@timvanrijn8239 Oh, it would have induced a proxy war to make Korea or Vietnam look tame. That said, I don't know how directly involved the U.S. would be persuaded to get. Truman would have been behind it, but congress?
...it should also be noted that many Arabs also migrated from the surrounding nations to Ottoman and British Palestine prior to 1948. In fact, Arabs who migrated to that area prior to 1946 with no prior ancestry to Palestine can now be considered as 'Palestinian' Arabs.
The city of Jerusalem should be under management of UNESCO. And remain outside of any state. In perpetua. A Jewish state can have Tel Aviv for its capital, and a Palestinian state can have Ramallah for its capital. If they can’t share it, then neither get it.
@@garrettallen7427 And who would actually live there? No Jews aside from a few hundred Neturei Karta and Satmar nutjobs would give up their Israeli citizenship to live in such a city state.
@@warpedcomedy I think you’d be surprised at how attached people can be to the city they live in, I especially think this applies to the east side, what with all those religious sites and historical areas.
The Israelis had the pragmatic good idea of burying their tormented past to support a better future. Especially a painful fruitless past caused by the very people the Israelis are trying to befriend with to establish long term good relations.
What if Israel had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
What the Arabs didn’t consider is that the Negev desert which was about 50% of the whole of Israel and Palestine was considered useless,Israel got that and some parts in the north,means while the Arabs got the more arable lands
Can we remember that the Kingdom of Trans Jordan was part of the original British Mandate and was created as a homeland for the Palestinian people??? Everyone forgets that part
@@j.pelczar3151 how so? TransJordan was in fact created as a nation for the "Palestinian" people. There is in reality no such thing in all of recorded history of a Palestinian people
Well, the reason is simile: that reason didn't be considered parte of palestinian territory, but It was part of Syria. Palestinian political movements of that time were divide between an Union with that "Southern Syria", but majority of people refused that, because for them Palestine was the land on the west side of Jordan River. Indeed, the same Name "Transjordan" had no sense, because that was part of Syria that changed Name for stupido reasons of "confusing name". The Transjordan had to be parto of Syria, and the only people that didn't supporto this were British, French and prince Abdullah, Brother of Faysal King of the Arab Kingdom of Syria.
As an American Jew of Palestinian Jewish decent. Palestinian nationalism and homelands were not for the British to decide. It doesnt justify Arab spaciocide because others did it to us. This still applies if a nation existed or not (or was recognized) at the time
On the point that without Israel there would still be wars and problems in the Middle East: there's still the shiite - sunnite conflict, and there is the Kurdish question. What if there had been a Kurdish state?
I made a similar video to this and I somewhat addressed the kurdish question. please check it out and leave a comment. ruclips.net/video/M7liWTtCcYA/видео.html
Even if Israel didn't exist there will still be War In the entire Middle East. Israel has nukes and might use them in a nuclear war, Israel is leader in Medecine and Technology.
Ok. I am israeli jewish. You do sound like you try to make it fair, and kudo for touching it. What if about Israel intrest me on the personal level, and I wrote some myself. How ever. About arabs not making genocide on the jewish if they had the chance... I must to disagree. Yes. Arabs were not nazi germany but. At least from stories of The Indepdence War veterans and people who lived through, they yelled stuff like "another six million" And "Let's do k'heibar' (a jewish clan that Muhammed has genocided for rejecting him, as told in the qurran. Mentioning k'hiebar is basicly "no prisoners" attitude) But, they weren't united- not military and not in ideals. So probably some like that, and some like that. Also, jewish from arab states were basicly refuges, running for their lives. So, I do take from your video, that things were more nuanced. (As always in history) but the fears were far from baseless. About expeling arabs- I can imagine it happened here and there. There were cities, were they begged the arabs back. Sometimes they got back, or didn't left- like in the city of Haiffa, which is considered the model city for co existence. There were strong israeli faction that believed at co existence out of idealogy. Actually right now they are the dominante force in politics here. Anyway. Thank you for the vid.
I made a similar video to this please leave me a comment on whether u think I did a good job of making it fair. ruclips.net/video/M7liWTtCcYA/видео.html
1, they betrayed him 2, he didn't genocide them, it was one of his companions who judged on them 3, they were the one who asked the prophet to take their women and execute them as it was in the Jewish culture at that time, but as i said it was a Jewish culture not Islamic.
@@amitkenan3878 it was his companion, and he was so angry and wanted to revenge, and what will you do to a person who tried to slaughter you and enslave your family, end your religion and betrayed you in the medieval age?? This was what the companion did...
@@Omer1996E.C Imagine trying to make genocides a good thing, wow i can see how much hate you have but you are serious about acting like genociding/enslavement is a good thing, people want their own religion, they don't want to join a religion that loves brainwashing, Invading Colonizing, Terrorisizing, and others!!! ISRAEL isn't Arab and it will never be, stop trying to steal it!!! STOP brainwashing people to make it look as if it were yours and STOP Inciting violence and Terrorism into your children. THAT'S ALL IM GOING TO SAY
Too many times defeat means you exist no more. Despite efforts by Israel to establish and normalize relations with its neighbors. The people of those neighboring countries would gladly with a clear conscious do "not nice" things. That is why my opinion this video is a sanitized whitewash. They are not monsters, they think it is better you do not exist at all and bother them by being near their presence if they believe you are better than them or simply being different than them.
@@jonnajohnsons2684Seriously how? It's has no oil and is the size of New Jersey, sure it's of religious significance but there'd be plenty of other reasons for wars in the Middle East.
Well done for making the video now people will understand that Israel is the best thing that has happened to the Palestinian state and will also understand that Israel is not the reason why there is no Palestinian state
Just imagine how poor Palestine would be today if Israel lost the war. Palestine has no resources to keep anybody wealthy or well-fed.. once again victims claiming to want something they can't have or ever accomplished
No we would be rich because America has access to the middle east because of Israel (Israeli spies) so America and europe wouldnt be as rich as they are today since they take all our resources and the middle east would all be one country again and be filthy rich.
With all do respect, this is almost past the line to a 'White Mans Burden' argument. While some Palestinians did enjoy benefits of its existence, the vast majority suffered. Palestine would likely recover, maybe at a slower rate but it would still recover
Map of Jewish communities in Yemen prior to immigration to the British Mandate of Palestine and Israel Places of origin and 1881-1939 new communitiesEdit The three major population centers for Jews in southern Arabia were Aden, Habban, and the Hadhramaut. The Jews of Aden lived in and around the city, and flourished during the British Aden Protectorate. The vast majority of Yemenite immigrants counted by the authorities of Mandate Palestine in 1939 had settled in the country prior to that date. Throughout the periods of Ottoman Palestine and Mandatory Palestine, Jews from Yemen had settled primarily in agricultural settlements in the country, namely: Petach Tikvah (Machaneh Yehuda),[145] Rishon Lezion (Shivat Zion),[145] Rehovot (Sha'arayim and Marmorek),[145] Wadi Chanin (later called Ness Ziona),[145] Beer Yaakov,[145] Hadera (Nachliel),[145] Zichron Yaakov,[145] Yavne'el,[145] Gedera,[145] Ben Shemen,[146] Kinneret,[147] Degania[148] and Milhamia.[149] Others chose to live in the urban areas of Jerusalem (Silwan and Nachalat Zvi),[150] Jaffa,[151] Tel Aviv (Kerem Hateimanim),[152] and later, Netanya (Shekhunat Zvi).[153] First wave of emigration: 1881 to 1918Edit Emigration from Yemen to the area now known as Israel began in 1881, and continued almost without interruption until 1914. It was during this time that about 10% of the Yemenite Jews left. Due to the changes in the Ottoman Empire, citizens could move more freely, and in 1869, travel was improved with the opening of the Suez Canal, which reduced the travel time from Yemen to Palestine. Certain Yemenite Jews interpreted these changes and the new developments in the "Holy Land" as heavenly signs that the time of redemption was near. By settling in the Holy Land, they would play a part in what they believed could precipitate the anticipated messianic era. From 1881 to 1882, some 30 Jewish families left Sana'a and several nearby settlements, and made the long trek by foot and by sea to Jerusalem, where most had settled in Silwan.[154] This wave was followed by other Jews from central Yemen, who continued to move into Palestine until 1914. The majority of these groups would later move into Jerusalem proper and Jaffa. Rabbi Avraham Al-Naddaf, who immigrated to Jerusalem in 1891, described in his autobiography the hardships the Yemenite Jewish community faced in their new country, where there were no hostelries to accommodate wayfarers and new immigrants. On the other hand, he writes that the Sephardi kollelim (seminaries) had taken under their auspices the Yemenite Jews from the moment they set foot in Jerusalem. Later, however, the Yemenites would come to feel discriminated against by the Sephardic community, who compelled them to no longer make use of their own soft, pliable matzah, but to buy from them only the hard cracker-like matzah made weeks in advance prior to Passover. He also mentions that the Yemenite community would pay the prescribed tax to the public coffers; yet, they were not being allotted an equal share or subsidy as had been given to the Sephardic Jews. By 1910, the Yemenites had broken away from the Sephardic seminaries.[155] Before World War I, there was another wave that began in 1906 and continued until 1914. Hundreds of Yemenite Jews made their way to the Holy Land, and chose to settle in the agricultural settlements. It was after these movements that the World Zionist Organization sent Shmuel Yavne'eli to Yemen to encourage Jews to emigrate to Palestine. Yavne'eli reached Yemen at the beginning of 1911, and returned in April 1912. Due to Yavne'eli's efforts, about 1,000 Jews left central and southern Yemen, with several hundred more arriving before 1914.[156] The purpose of this immigration was considered by the Zionist Office as allowing the importation of cheap labour. This wave of Yemenite Jewry underwent extreme suffering, physically and mentally, and those who arrived between 1912 and 1918 had a very high incidence of premature mortality, ranging from between 30% and 40% generally and, in some townships, reaching as high as 50%.[157] Second wave of emigration: 1920 to 1950Edit Further information: Operation Magic Carpet (Yemen)  Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries: Yemenite Jews en route from Aden to Israel on "wings of eagles".  Yemenite Jews at a Tu Bishvat celebration, Ma'abarat Rosh HaAyin, 1950 During the British Mandate of Palestine, the total number of persons registered as immigrants from Yemen, between the years April 1939-December 1945, was put at 4,554.[158] By 1947, there were an estimated 35,000 Yemenite Jews living in Mandate Palestine.[159] The largest bulk of immigration to Israel, however, came after the declaration of the state. Israel initiated Operation Magic Carpet in June 1949 and airlifted most of Yemen's Jews to Israel by September 1950.[160]
If you are supporting the Israeli effort to reconcile today and both establish and normalize relations with the Muslim nations then I shut my mouth on this matter.
@@darkphoenix8941sure Ss division en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Aftermath The sources are cited by Wikipedia in the “ aftermath” section I’ll also link the article on Arab cooperation with nazi Germany for background and further reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#Palestine
I'm sorry, but GOD promised "Israel" to the jewish people (In the Bible & Torah) and "Al-Aqsa Mosque" (Islam) is a place in heaven and not in Jerusalem! Jerusalem don't mentioned even once in the book of Islam (The Quran) Jerusalem belongs to the jews and the "third temple" should be build in the "temple mount" in Jerusalem, Israel...
So thats the plan ? Send them all to Heaven via Masskillings?? And where does it say a Third Temple will be Built in that Literature? Doesnt rather refer to a completely different interpretation of the idea, who ever declared that when the Romans were destined to take it down? Was it not under construction before and now look how it turned out, nothing, relying on mysticism and spirituality bullshit
Self-interest because many local Arabs who been to Mandatory Palestine had seen the formerly wastelands turned into thriving or at least habitable settlements with water and fertile soil. Arabs do not do long-term investment of the same kind the rest of the world do. They saw opportunity to take over the farms, they grab it as potential reward. But along the way why not help yourself with some pillaged goods of some "rich wealthy" Jew household. Many Arabs rarely had the chance to eat canned food and powdered milk.
@@اسمعشوائي-ه6ظ no the palestinians sold wastelands to the jews at very high market prices. While keeping much of the good lands for themselves. The jews took years to develop wastelands into good lands.
You just forgot that a lot of Palestinians back then and not a few even now call for Palestine from the river to the sea, and the destination of the jew is at sea. I'm not saying every Palestinian or Arab or Muslim is like that, I tend to believe the opposite is the correct reality. But like the Nazis which were not the majority in Germany, made a huge impact on the country and forced even non believers in there cause to do their bidding against their will from the natural fear for their lives. We need to take that into consideration because, at the time, the leader of the Palestinians was antisemetic and even asked for Hitler (F him) to execute the Final Solution in Israel-Palestine.
@chrisgaming9567 I asked which river which river the statement was talking about and which sea? Not what that you or the consensus about that sentence. Could you answer me the questions?
@@emmanuelov8998 Israel always had a huge advantage always they had huge supper from western powers. Like without ceckislavakia weapons Israeli would have lost the 48 war. The main issue people have with Israel is that it’s a apartheid racist state if it wasn’t I wouldn’t have a issue with it
And Jewish forces weren’t more organized they were more desperate and willing to absorb more casualties. It was 900,000 native and refugee Jews, who suffered a 5% death rate for their entire population to win. Get your facts right if you are going to do propaganda instead of what the title is, which is alternate timeline.
@@Omer1996E.C can u tell me why u need to avoid putting actual substance into the comments? Besides that why the Gaza city still exist instead of being destroyed and its Palestinians chased out by evil IDF long ago? There were numerous opportunities for Isreal relocate the Palestinians and that suggestion Isreal was supported by the rest of the world including by the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact both ironically allies of the Muslim nations.
@@GhostMacross01 because, Palestinians are resisting and the zionist propoganda that Israel want to make to show themselves as the victim and the poor people would fail.
2:43 Actually Stalin had different reasons for helping Israel. He believed Israel would become a Socialist nation given how many of its founders where Socialist or Social democrats. While he saw Arab nations as British or French puppets ruled by corrupt monarchies and capitalists.
boy, how the table have turned when the opposite of what he think happened
@@zealord9425 he was right Jordan are still puppets
@@footballfan5462 No he was wrong because in a long terms,Israel instead became a pro west country in the cold war.What he thinks happened when he helped Israel backfired on him
@@footballfan5462 yes I am from jordan and we are puppet all arab rulers are put by the west and all of them are corrupted and people are becoming similar to them but this is arranged by zionism which controls the world
@@zealord9425 because israel stands with the strong and they don't have any loyality
"The Suez Crisis would play out very differently without Israel to instigate the conflict for Britain."
France: Am I a joke to you?
Yes
A total one!
Britain can instigate their own wars. There's no honor amongst Englishmen
Israel didn’t instigate the conflict-this guy is so biased. Britain and France instigated it since Nasser seized canal and they wanted it back and Israel were major boots on the ground to help them out. And Israel had an interest because they were not recognized, called the “Zionist Regime” by Egypt and Jordan, among other Arab states, and Egypt under Nasser was the most vocal proponent of attacking Israel at that time, giving major support to the nascent group later becoming Fatah and PLO who were already committing cross border raids into Israel.
pretty much yeaah
Kudos for an even-handed presentation of a contentious topic.
Of course Chabon's Yiddish Policemen's Union was displayed on the bookshelf...
no such thing as contentiox or topicx etc, say any nmw an dany s perfect
Then all the world's problems of today would have been solved already just kidding we have a whole bunch of new ones and different ones.
Jewish politicians having to chose between an independence and a jordan integration stance be intresting.
Some televangelist donate masive amounds of money to pro isreal millitas.
The more things change
@@timvanrijn8239 yeah and some of those pro-israeli malicious are terrorist organizations in other countries.
@@crmesson22k can see that going past protest and petitioning.
Maybe those go a bit further in counties of persieved enemies.
wrg
israel makes no major difference in the world, maybe more peace in the middle east, but iran, turkiye, and saudi arabia would all be competing against each other
I "agree" with your timeline (insofar as someone can agree to an alternate history). I disagree with the map, Egypt had no legal or ethnic claim over the Negev. Likewise, Syria had no legal or ethnic claims to the Jordan River valley. These territories, legally part of the Mandate of Palestine, would pass to this new Kingdom of Jordan, with a Jewish autonomy as you described and as outlined in the Abdullah-Weisman accords.
Also, I disagree with the name; Palestine was labeled as "Cisjordan" (where the term "West Bank" comes from) while modern-day Jordan was officially called "The Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan" (and labeled by some as "East Bank"). Simply calling it "The Kingdom of Jordan" would be enough; the modern-day Kingdom of Jordan only got that name after the war, as it annexed the West Bank. As such, you could've just called it "The Kingdom of Jordan".
PS: I'm a Palestian Jordanian.
True, though Egypt had ruled over the region in centuries past and may see that as justification to take the region regardless
Atop that, they didn't have a legal claim to the Gaza strip but still took and administered it for some time until Israel took it in turn
Colonial borders may not necessarily be respected, though it is a valid point considering how dedicated to the rules based international order we became following the mass bloodshed of WW2
Well I wouldn't be having weekly arguments with my older relatives about THIS subject
Am i allowed to know the religious, ethnic, or ideological composition of your family?
Because while i've seen people disagree with each other regarding the Arab-Israeli issues, i've never seen any such disagreements inside a single family or household.
@@taufiqutomo Jewish of Central European origin. Surprisingly the older generations in my family have very different opinions on the Palestine/Israel conflict but the younger genes are more pro Palestine
@@totallynotalpharius2283you are not jewish. Stop hiding in an identity you are not.
Israelis didn’t outnumber Arabs, they had equal soldiers. This was only because 100% of Jewish men were mobilised while maybe only 2% of Arabs.
2% is an insanely low estimate, like 25% of palestinians, 30% of jordanians, but like .5% of egyptians/sudanese so you kinda have a point
You like JAZ?
Let's call it the Jewish Autonomous Zionist Zone.
As a Jordanian, I do, it gives us more land
@@shatterquartz Jewish Autonomouse Zone*
Grandchildren of Europeans occupying the middle of the middle east is not to be celebrated as an "arrival of a new member of the international community" these thing to do with israel is let it die out. Shame the terrorists that run dc keep it a military powerhouse with YOUR taxes.
@@regularman5914 same
I have my doubts but as he said.
In the short term its a very likely senario.
You might see more ussr support for the JAZ government or the groups.
The other scenario I could see happening is eventually homogeneity. Since the Palestinian and Jordanian people would be allowed free migrationthroughthe country, many may eventuallymove in fromrural areas to the coastal cities. And since the JAZ people would be citizens too they'd be allowed to migrate and so some might move to rural areas for various reasons, kibbutzim rural settlements may also be developed in certain areas depending on how people feel and some Jewish people may move to other major cities in the nation (Jerusalem, Amman, Zarqa, Aqaba etc). In addition, immigration to the JAZ would be substantially lower. So after a few decades it may become a mixed homogeneous Arab state with a substantial (10-20%) Jewish minority with maybe a higher coastal population (25-30%) than an eastern population (5-10%). But depending on how things work out, the general population may be fine with this. There would be radical Zionists still but the general Jewish and Arab population will likely just be happy to accept a diverse and happy mix of peoples in a society that is reasonably prosperous
No fuckin way lol. The Jews would have been thrown into the sea.
@@franklyyourewrong2803 did you watch the video?
@@rasverixxyleighraq1509 The video is shit song hang on it’s words like the gospel. I like to think I’m unbiased. The IDF isn’t like he makes it seem. If Jerusalem falls it’s going to collapse any organised Jewish resistance collapses. If the war carried on any longer Israel would have been overwhelmed the Arabs did have such a huge number advantage. I’ll admit I didn’t watch the video but I’ve watched it now and it’s dogshit. Everything he says is wrong. I’m not even sure who he’s biased towards or if he’s just stupid.
Jews had Palestinian passports, they changed them in for Israeli. What so hard
I won't say they would ever become such well-mixed diverse singular communities, rather they will live within same framework as millet system under the Ottoman. Having enfranchisement of group right that barred from involvement partaken by majority of Arab mass, especially in legal and cultural sense, imagine it alike similar socio-political situation that Bosnia-Herzegovina is having now. Thus, Jewish kinda have an equal status on paper, but still will being considered as 2nd class like during segregation Jim Crow era in USA, even worse their conservative elite would like to keeping status quo since this empowering the rabbis class over domestic affairs.
Please, despite myself liking your path of alteration, but keep it being realistic, Middle East was within an era of politic and social experiment that already without foundation as strong as Turks that has its recent imperialistic and centralizing effort shaping them as modern secular nation-state which having enough time to growing own local ethnic elites as bulwark of development. Meanwhile the Arabs are and were lacking in centralize development, as we can see with how each of Arab sub-groub that swore fealty towards each sects or more with political party as its vessel, thus reasoning why inability to easily enforce top-down approach on them. Why? Because most of Arab elite during Tanzimat Reformation and even before that, have been in stepped out position limited to the religious affair as where they could be involved with to steer process of policy-making, heck even being considered as untrustworthy tax collectors that explain lack of any capital needed by Ottoman to ever industrialize in boosted pace.
nicely done mate
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Alternate title: what if Jordan decided it wanted too unite northern Arabia?
it would lose
@@hakced not through military might I mean like how he describes in the video
@@Jordaniantrex yeah, Jordan had somme ambitions for a while but it wouldnt succeed as the king got assassinated
@@hakced yeah but then again the next two kings were arguably better (I am Jordanian I am allowed to have this opinion
@@Jordaniantrex yeah, i get that. just am not ware if they had similar pan/hashemite ambitions to Abdullah
Aka the gamer timeline.
The involvement of the PLO in the Lebanese Civil War came after Syria drove the war. Syria considers Lebanon as Syrian.
There is 0 chance for any JAZ after an Israeli loss. The animosities are just too big for the Arabs to propose an autonomy for Jews. While probably it wouldn't turn out Holocaust #2, except the casual massacare, it'll probably Israel's version of the Nakba. All the Jews would probably be loaded to boats sending them back to Europe. I don't think Jordan would get much in terms of territory. Egypt was the strongest army, and it was the closest to bring Israel to defeat. So I guess after 1948 Palestine would become a small district in Egypt. However, the Suez crisis might have occured earlier, and in that case UK and France might have invaded Palestine under the pretence to recreate the Israel, giving them infrastructure that enables them to protect the Suez canal.
Good. those rgrandchildren of Europeans shouldn't be there to begin with 🥾
No one in Europe would accept them. There were pogroms in Poland against Jews who tried to retake their properties and even the USA didn’t want them. Latin America might accept them but it wouldn’t pay for them to come and do you think the Arabs would let them keep any of their valuables? At best they’d get a trunk full of clothes if that. I’m not saying this to demonise the Arabs but they despised the Jews and most the invading armies didn’t have enough discipline so mass rapes and massacres would have definitely occurred. Egyptians could probably keep these minor but the others I don’t think so. Your right it wouldn’t be a holocaust but most of the Jews would probably die to starvation without anywhere to flee. Not exactly genocide because they didn’t have the intention to exterminate them but they wouldn’t help them either. Also no one’s intervening for Israel they don’t care enough.
At the time animosities were nowhere near as high as they are today
Probably not that last part. Jews would likely be soured by their relationship with Europe and most would not make it back with most who cant flee ending up eventually assimilating into the local palestinean jewish population but with seriously diminished rights. In that scenario the idea of zionism while not completely lost is mostly shattered; by trying to create a nationstate they caused the very thing the sought to avoid. Which also likely changes the rest of the diaspora's hope of zionism succeeding. The realization of the only way to survive is to remain in diaspora begins to take favor. The UK and France as a result would have even less to bargain with since Palestine and Egypt would likely site the neocolonialist stances, Jews would likely say Europe failed them and western nations would be less likely to escalate it all based on pressures of constant war.
who cares about the comments, YOU'RE BACK!
I think this would be the best outcome, I believe eventually both the JAZ and possible West Bank/Gaza-Palestinian areas would eventually be allowed independence and although extremism on both sides would always exist, I think that with both sides relatively happy after all the independence was obtained I doubt any major international wars would occur.
I actually now wish this was how it'd worked out. Yet another What-If scenario I feel would be better than the reality
Oh crap, the comment section is doom.
Good to see you, Mitch! Hell of a topic to return with, but I'm glad to see it. I'm in the camp that the Western allies would back Israel if things started going in Arab favor and it would be as simple as that. Of course and, as usual, hindsight lends only to speculation. At least you do it well, with multiple possible outcomes.
Be pretty good play for stalin.
The allies go in and he get to court arab nationalist. Boosting the bahatist
@@timvanrijn8239 Oh, it would have induced a proxy war to make Korea or Vietnam look tame. That said, I don't know how directly involved the U.S. would be persuaded to get. Truman would have been behind it, but congress?
What if Israel lost 1948 war? The result was massacre
@Al-QesasThere were also riots in Morocco against the Jews!
No
@@Free_filistineyes
...it should also be noted that many Arabs also migrated from the surrounding nations to Ottoman and British Palestine prior to 1948.
In fact, Arabs who migrated to that area prior to 1946 with no prior ancestry to Palestine can now be considered as 'Palestinian' Arabs.
1909 , Palestinian Arabic book published by American Author 😄
it should also be noted that even before this migration Arabs still made the majority of Palestine and they have for centuries almost a millenia.
The city of Jerusalem should be under management of UNESCO.
And remain outside of any state. In perpetua.
A Jewish state can have Tel Aviv for its capital, and a Palestinian state can have Ramallah for its capital.
If they can’t share it, then neither get it.
Or better yet, just make it it’s own country, after all, if the Vatican can do it, why not Jerusalem?
They tried it. Jordan occupied it. It didn't work.
@@garrettallen7427 And who would actually live there? No Jews aside from a few hundred Neturei Karta and Satmar nutjobs would give up their Israeli citizenship to live in such a city state.
Go back in time and have Saladin actually destroy it .done and done
@@warpedcomedy I think you’d be surprised at how attached people can be to the city they live in, I especially think this applies to the east side, what with all those religious sites and historical areas.
The Israelis had the pragmatic good idea of burying their tormented past to support a better future. Especially a painful fruitless past caused by the very people the Israelis are trying to befriend with to establish long term good relations.
What if Israel had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
Maybe robert kennedy survives
Woooo topical
Israel being erased? Don't play with my heart like that
Keep dreaming
Never gonna happen
What the Arabs didn’t consider is that the Negev desert which was about 50% of the whole of Israel and Palestine was considered useless,Israel got that and some parts in the north,means while the Arabs got the more arable lands
The world would be a better place
Good thing we won,you fuck and keep winning
Can we remember that the Kingdom of Trans Jordan was part of the original British Mandate and was created as a homeland for the Palestinian people??? Everyone forgets that part
Disingenuous.
@@j.pelczar3151 how so? TransJordan was in fact created as a nation for the "Palestinian" people. There is in reality no such thing in all of recorded history of a Palestinian people
Well, the reason is simile: that reason didn't be considered parte of palestinian territory, but It was part of Syria. Palestinian political movements of that time were divide between an Union with that "Southern Syria", but majority of people refused that, because for them Palestine was the land on the west side of Jordan River. Indeed, the same Name "Transjordan" had no sense, because that was part of Syria that changed Name for stupido reasons of "confusing name".
The Transjordan had to be parto of Syria, and the only people that didn't supporto this were British, French and prince Abdullah, Brother of Faysal King of the Arab Kingdom of Syria.
As an American Jew of Palestinian Jewish decent. Palestinian nationalism and homelands were not for the British to decide. It doesnt justify Arab spaciocide because others did it to us. This still applies if a nation existed or not (or was recognized) at the time
What if the muslims accepted the two state solution of Israel/Jordan?
Why should they?
@@Naderiumso they stop calling “genocide” in a war that they started
@@aaronsitoleallopez1645 would you be okay letting 5 million Iraqis, 1 million Afghanis, 100k Pakistanis, 2 million Libyans and more into America?
We wont because palestine is the land of arabs, the israelis come from different parts of europe.
@@aaronsitoleallopez1645just remember Israel was the one who started it, 46 mate
TLDR: There would be regional peace.
On the point that without Israel there would still be wars and problems in the Middle East: there's still the shiite - sunnite conflict, and there is the Kurdish question. What if there had been a Kurdish state?
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Even if Israel didn't exist there will still be War In the entire Middle East.
Israel has nukes and might use them in a nuclear war,
Israel is leader in Medecine and Technology.
14:20 I think your assumption that an arab state would allow any continued jewish immigration to the land is where your hypotheticals collapse.
Ok. I am israeli jewish.
You do sound like you try to make it fair, and kudo for touching it.
What if about Israel intrest me on the personal level, and I wrote some myself.
How ever. About arabs not making genocide on the jewish if they had the chance... I must to disagree. Yes. Arabs were not nazi germany but.
At least from stories of The Indepdence War veterans and people who lived through, they yelled stuff like "another six million"
And "Let's do k'heibar' (a jewish clan that Muhammed has genocided for rejecting him, as told in the qurran. Mentioning k'hiebar is basicly "no prisoners" attitude)
But, they weren't united- not military and not in ideals. So probably some like that, and some like that.
Also, jewish from arab states were basicly refuges, running for their lives.
So, I do take from your video, that things were more nuanced. (As always in history) but the fears were far from baseless.
About expeling arabs- I can imagine it happened here and there.
There were cities, were they begged the arabs back.
Sometimes they got back, or didn't left- like in the city of Haiffa, which is considered the model city for co existence.
There were strong israeli faction that believed at co existence out of idealogy.
Actually right now they are the dominante force in politics here.
Anyway. Thank you for the vid.
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1, they betrayed him
2, he didn't genocide them, it was one of his companions who judged on them
3, they were the one who asked the prophet to take their women and execute them as it was in the Jewish culture at that time, but as i said it was a Jewish culture not Islamic.
@@Omer1996E.CSo in response he slaughtered all the men and enslaved all the women and children. How noble of him
@@amitkenan3878 it was his companion, and he was so angry and wanted to revenge, and what will you do to a person who tried to slaughter you and enslave your family, end your religion and betrayed you in the medieval age??
This was what the companion did...
@@Omer1996E.C Imagine trying to make genocides a good thing, wow i can see how much hate you have but you are serious about acting like genociding/enslavement is a good thing, people want their own religion, they don't want to join a religion that loves brainwashing, Invading Colonizing, Terrorisizing, and others!!! ISRAEL isn't Arab and it will never be, stop trying to steal it!!! STOP brainwashing people to make it look as if it were yours and STOP Inciting violence and Terrorism into your children. THAT'S ALL IM GOING TO SAY
Then biblical prophecy would be violated.
That happens all the time
Most of the 55% was the Negev where at the time almost no one lived, and yet there were more Jewish settlers, hence the whole majority rules thing.
4:40 actually, soviet egyptian relationship throughout the Cold War suggests It worked.
Too many times defeat means you exist no more. Despite efforts by Israel to establish and normalize relations with its neighbors. The people of those neighboring countries would gladly with a clear conscious do "not nice" things. That is why my opinion this video is a sanitized whitewash. They are not monsters, they think it is better you do not exist at all and bother them by being near their presence if they believe you are better than them or simply being different than them.
ooo spicy
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The Egyptians wanted Jerusalem 😉
Both Arafat and earlier his uncle, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem worked for Egyptian interests. 🤔 💭
Muslim*
Jagr and hasek were my favourite hockey players not anymore
very big oof for israel
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Do you watch visual politics or was that ending just coincidental ;)
Never heard of them.
Palestine never existed it was southern Syrian the term Palestinian referring to Arabs was a created by the PLOs Yasser Arafat
Ok Ziodog
The world wouldnt look that different without Israel.
yes it would,
The Middle East would still be a huge mess
@@jonnajohnsons2684Seriously how? It's has no oil and is the size of New Jersey, sure it's of religious significance but there'd be plenty of other reasons for wars in the Middle East.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 you are ignoring everything Israel has done that benefits the world
@@jonnajohnsons2684 Okay I'm genuinely curious, has Israel benefited the world?
Regardless of what happened or what could’ve happened, Palestine will be free! 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
you have sooo much hate that you don't care about millions of people dying, shame on you
Well done for making the video now people will understand that Israel is the best thing that has happened to the Palestinian state and will also understand that Israel is not the reason why there is no Palestinian state
How is the current situation better for Palestinians that the situation presented in this video?
" If I don't take it, then someone else will!"
Remember Palestinians, Israel has your best interests at heart.
I would say that being in an apartheid state that wants to destroy your people is worse than being under jordan with equal rights
Just imagine how poor Palestine would be today if Israel lost the war.
Palestine has no resources to keep anybody wealthy or well-fed.. once again victims claiming to want something they can't have or ever accomplished
No we would be rich because America has access to the middle east because of Israel (Israeli spies) so America and europe wouldnt be as rich as they are today since they take all our resources and the middle east would all be one country again and be filthy rich.
Palestinians never accomplished "not being constantly bombed by a fascist apartheid state"?
They actually have a lot of resource base and can be a great regional power
With all do respect, this is almost past the line to a 'White Mans Burden' argument. While some Palestinians did enjoy benefits of its existence, the vast majority suffered. Palestine would likely recover, maybe at a slower rate but it would still recover
Map of Jewish communities in Yemen prior to immigration to the British Mandate of Palestine and Israel
Places of origin and 1881-1939 new communitiesEdit
The three major population centers for Jews in southern Arabia were Aden, Habban, and the Hadhramaut. The Jews of Aden lived in and around the city, and flourished during the British Aden Protectorate.
The vast majority of Yemenite immigrants counted by the authorities of Mandate Palestine in 1939 had settled in the country prior to that date. Throughout the periods of Ottoman Palestine and Mandatory Palestine, Jews from Yemen had settled primarily in agricultural settlements in the country, namely: Petach Tikvah (Machaneh Yehuda),[145] Rishon Lezion (Shivat Zion),[145] Rehovot (Sha'arayim and Marmorek),[145] Wadi Chanin (later called Ness Ziona),[145] Beer Yaakov,[145] Hadera (Nachliel),[145] Zichron Yaakov,[145] Yavne'el,[145] Gedera,[145] Ben Shemen,[146] Kinneret,[147] Degania[148] and Milhamia.[149] Others chose to live in the urban areas of Jerusalem (Silwan and Nachalat Zvi),[150] Jaffa,[151] Tel Aviv (Kerem Hateimanim),[152] and later, Netanya (Shekhunat Zvi).[153]
First wave of emigration: 1881 to 1918Edit
Emigration from Yemen to the area now known as Israel began in 1881, and continued almost without interruption until 1914. It was during this time that about 10% of the Yemenite Jews left. Due to the changes in the Ottoman Empire, citizens could move more freely, and in 1869, travel was improved with the opening of the Suez Canal, which reduced the travel time from Yemen to Palestine. Certain Yemenite Jews interpreted these changes and the new developments in the "Holy Land" as heavenly signs that the time of redemption was near. By settling in the Holy Land, they would play a part in what they believed could precipitate the anticipated messianic era.
From 1881 to 1882, some 30 Jewish families left Sana'a and several nearby settlements, and made the long trek by foot and by sea to Jerusalem, where most had settled in Silwan.[154] This wave was followed by other Jews from central Yemen, who continued to move into Palestine until 1914. The majority of these groups would later move into Jerusalem proper and Jaffa. Rabbi Avraham Al-Naddaf, who immigrated to Jerusalem in 1891, described in his autobiography the hardships the Yemenite Jewish community faced in their new country, where there were no hostelries to accommodate wayfarers and new immigrants. On the other hand, he writes that the Sephardi kollelim (seminaries) had taken under their auspices the Yemenite Jews from the moment they set foot in Jerusalem. Later, however, the Yemenites would come to feel discriminated against by the Sephardic community, who compelled them to no longer make use of their own soft, pliable matzah, but to buy from them only the hard cracker-like matzah made weeks in advance prior to Passover. He also mentions that the Yemenite community would pay the prescribed tax to the public coffers; yet, they were not being allotted an equal share or subsidy as had been given to the Sephardic Jews. By 1910, the Yemenites had broken away from the Sephardic seminaries.[155]
Before World War I, there was another wave that began in 1906 and continued until 1914. Hundreds of Yemenite Jews made their way to the Holy Land, and chose to settle in the agricultural settlements. It was after these movements that the World Zionist Organization sent Shmuel Yavne'eli to Yemen to encourage Jews to emigrate to Palestine. Yavne'eli reached Yemen at the beginning of 1911, and returned in April 1912. Due to Yavne'eli's efforts, about 1,000 Jews left central and southern Yemen, with several hundred more arriving before 1914.[156] The purpose of this immigration was considered by the Zionist Office as allowing the importation of cheap labour. This wave of Yemenite Jewry underwent extreme suffering, physically and mentally, and those who arrived between 1912 and 1918 had a very high incidence of premature mortality, ranging from between 30% and 40% generally and, in some townships, reaching as high as 50%.[157]
Second wave of emigration: 1920 to 1950Edit
Further information: Operation Magic Carpet (Yemen)

Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries: Yemenite Jews en route from Aden to Israel on "wings of eagles".

Yemenite Jews at a Tu Bishvat celebration, Ma'abarat Rosh HaAyin, 1950
During the British Mandate of Palestine, the total number of persons registered as immigrants from Yemen, between the years April 1939-December 1945, was put at 4,554.[158] By 1947, there were an estimated 35,000 Yemenite Jews living in Mandate Palestine.[159] The largest bulk of immigration to Israel, however, came after the declaration of the state. Israel initiated Operation Magic Carpet in June 1949 and airlifted most of Yemen's Jews to Israel by September 1950.[160]
Did you just copy a Wikipedia article?
Oh vey
If you are supporting the Israeli effort to reconcile today and both establish and normalize relations with the Muslim nations then I shut my mouth on this matter.
Utopia
I love the idea that even tough thousands of the Arabs in the 1948 war where ex members of the waffen ss the Jews somehow wouldn’t have been massacred
source?
@@darkphoenix8941sure
Ss division en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Aftermath
The sources are cited by Wikipedia in the “ aftermath” section
I’ll also link the article on Arab cooperation with nazi Germany for background and further reading
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#Palestine
They were lead to believe Hitler was a second coming of Jesus A.S
@@Naderiumnah
Ironically the Jews had a Waffen SS officer on their command
I'm sorry, but GOD promised "Israel" to the jewish people (In the Bible & Torah) and "Al-Aqsa Mosque" (Islam) is a place in heaven and not in Jerusalem! Jerusalem don't mentioned even once in the book of Islam (The Quran) Jerusalem belongs to the jews and the "third temple" should be build in the "temple mount" in Jerusalem, Israel...
Look I'm glad u like a book. But your book has no grounding I'm reality. Why not settle this conflict with a spiderman comic
Not in quran, they are being punished
@@totallynotalpharius2283 if a book from thousands of years ago doesn't educate you what will
Al Aqsa Mosque is in Jerusalem.
So thats the plan ? Send them all to Heaven via Masskillings?? And where does it say a Third Temple will be Built in that Literature? Doesnt rather refer to a completely different interpretation of the idea, who ever declared that when the Romans were destined to take it down? Was it not under construction before and now look how it turned out, nothing, relying on mysticism and spirituality bullshit
So many wrong facts here. Like an Arab propaganda video
Self-interest because many local Arabs who been to Mandatory Palestine had seen the formerly wastelands turned into thriving or at least habitable settlements with water and fertile soil. Arabs do not do long-term investment of the same kind the rest of the world do. They saw opportunity to take over the farms, they grab it as potential reward. But along the way why not help yourself with some pillaged goods of some "rich wealthy" Jew household. Many Arabs rarely had the chance to eat canned food and powdered milk.
Palestinians didn’t live in a wasteland
@@اسمعشوائي-ه6ظ no the palestinians sold wastelands to the jews at very high market prices. While keeping much of the good lands for themselves. The jews took years to develop wastelands into good lands.
Masyaf castle where the Syrian assassins sent to killed
You just forgot that a lot of Palestinians back then and not a few even now call for Palestine from the river to the sea, and the destination of the jew is at sea.
I'm not saying every Palestinian or Arab or Muslim is like that, I tend to believe the opposite is the correct reality.
But like the Nazis which were not the majority in Germany, made a huge impact on the country and forced even non believers in there cause to do their bidding against their will from the natural fear for their lives.
We need to take that into consideration because, at the time, the leader of the Palestinians was antisemetic and even asked for Hitler (F him) to execute the Final Solution in Israel-Palestine.
Actually, "from the river to the sea" does not entail the expulsion of the Jews, just the liberation of Palestine.
@@chrisgaming9567 can you tell me from which river to which sea the statement are talking about?
@@AyamanAmusic The one that's currently popular among supporters of Palestinian liberation
@chrisgaming9567 I asked which river which river the statement was talking about and which sea?
Not what that you or the consensus about that sentence.
Could you answer me the questions?
@@chrisgaming9567 again, do you know the names of the river and the sea in the statement?
כל הישראלים שצופים בזה שיתנו לייק
הייתי מצטרף להתנגדות היהודית. לח י החדשה✌️
Enchanting language ewwww
uh oh
With the US backing Israel, how were they going to lose?
@x12 345 before yo supported them
Internal political division
Israel is here to stay for ever!
תתכונן למתקפה של הטוקבקים הערבים
@@هوويينكيوما
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Once you said in 1948, then you said in 1967, then you said in 1973 now you say in 2022/2027/2032/2047 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@emmanuelov8998 Israel always had a huge advantage always they had huge supper from western powers. Like without ceckislavakia weapons Israeli would have lost the 48 war. The main issue people have with Israel is that it’s a apartheid racist state if it wasn’t I wouldn’t have a issue with it
@João Ribeiro when did I say it was? Czech weapons still helped the Jews out a advantageous that can’t be overlooked.
no such thign as defeat or lost etc, d oany nmw s perfect
And Jewish forces weren’t more organized they were more desperate and willing to absorb more casualties. It was 900,000 native and refugee Jews, who suffered a 5% death rate for their entire population to win. Get your facts right if you are going to do propaganda instead of what the title is, which is alternate timeline.
Too many times the Israelis suffered for trusting Muslims.
Muslims are suffered from trusting zionists i can tell you how and you tell me how if you're really honest
@@Omer1996E.C please tell.
@@Omer1996E.C can u tell me why u need to avoid putting actual substance into the comments?
Besides that why the Gaza city still exist instead of being destroyed and its Palestinians chased out by evil IDF long ago? There were numerous opportunities for Isreal relocate the Palestinians and that suggestion Isreal was supported by the rest of the world including by the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact both ironically allies of the Muslim nations.
@@GhostMacross01 because, Palestinians are resisting and the zionist propoganda that Israel want to make to show themselves as the victim and the poor people would fail.
@@GhostMacross01 so you want to destroy gaza and annex the west bank