Batya is right on every question . Intelligent and articulate (on the Victor Hanson level) . Would love to see more of her (she needs to get her own show).
No, unfortunately for her she wasn’t joking. She was serious. And she lost all credibility will that asinine retort. She is the very embodiment of the out of touch leftist elite that Batya zeros in on with her razor sharp perception of the American working class vis-à-vis the credentialed class. I guarantee the interviewers CV reads like a Tolstoy novel. Out of control government spending and self-immolating fed policy, specifically quantitative easing is the primary reason for inflation. That kinda happens when you borrow recklessly to print trillions of dollars, flood the market with cash while shoving everything onto the feds balance sheet. You end up with too much cash chasing too few goods. Hence, inflation... We’re adding a trillion dollars to our National Debt every 100 days. The entire Putin/Inflation narrative is a fairy tail for children
@@btuesday It's certainly a factor, though not the only one. Russia and Ukraine are both massive food producers and the war as cut their production and sales. Similarly, Russia is a major exporter of fertilizer. The US is a massive food supplier to the world, and we import a lot of food from overseas. While we're somewhat insolated from world markets by being a massive food producer and by distance (it has to be shipped across oceans), we're still connected to global markets. In other words, it's supply and demand. The war has reduced global supply of some types of food and fertilizer, but hasn't reduced global demand, so prices go up. Again, just one factor, but a real one.
Quite clearly, Trump and MAGA World. Though I’ll add that she soft pedaled her normally strident advocacy for the benefit of this well known SF public forum. Listen to her on other right-leaning sites, and you’ll see a different person altogether.
@@warrenmillsjr3618 Or so it seems from Proggo world, which sees hate, bias and delusion everywhere but in its own hateful, biased and deluded perspective.
How do I lear more about what happened in Southport if even Mr. Farage can't speak of it? I lived about 4 years in London, that city and England have a special place in my family history. I love England and listening to this and other posts, the thought of England as I knew it around 1990, disappearing in the coming decades, makes me extremely sad.
“Mass immigration”, “Great Replacement Theory”, are self serving myths describing the mainstream of the Dem. Party’s position. Like mainstream Repubs, though, they have mangled the response to our amnesty law crisis to avoid political consequences. Politicians from both sides are going to have to challenge their extremes to repair our broken immigration system. A shameful blight on our whole political system!
No disrespect to Batya, but I highly disagree with her on a lot of her points 1st you're not working class if you're in that upper 20% of income level just because you didn't go to college or have a job that didn't necessarily require a college degree I was a high school dropout because my father was sick went back got my GED. I have worked in the financial services industry for 25 years and made a perfect living through hard work. My example of this also comes to the question of immigrants who come to this country with nothing and become millionaires or upper middle class, which you often see. We still have the most significant opportunities in this country if you're willing to work hard. The other issue I had is she said that the working poor are usually the Democratic Party. Then how come eight out of the top ten states using the most federal resources, food stamps Wick, welfare checks, etc., are red states when some of the most profitable states happen to be blue states paying the highest tax brackets IE, California New York, Connecticut I think there's a lot of room for discussion here. Still, many blanket statements weren't the case. The real question we should be asking is, let's talk about generational poverty. A lot of these people come from many generations of people working right above or below that poverty bubble. Unfortunately, somebody would love to make $38,000 a year when the opportunities are plentiful, and they should be able to do that. I would like to know more about that woman's situation and why she has yet to find that path, and that's where she needs help.
I am an immigrant, works in the financial industry and am a millionaire. I can tell you that the financial industry and tech industry wealth is not just from "hard work". The wealth gap between these and the rest of thr economy used to much less. It is cerainly globlization and the resulting low interest rate that created a massive income and wealth gap, which is the problem that split this country bith economically and politically. But even worse, it empowered the authoritariam regimes of China and destablized the world.
34:00 Batya deserved a smarter interlocutor, and one whose single-minded focus isn't on the electoral prospects of her party. Again and again, "Tell me how Biden can win over these strange creatures you write about!"
A smarter interlocutor, yes, but one counter to your seeming admiration for Ungar-Sargon that could have seen through her deceptive narrative. Jon Stewart comes to mind…
It's real easy: actually close the border, continue the tariff work, stop the green bullshit talk, stop the woke program. Oh wait, that's trump's program.
@@MeganDelacroix Hope you're kidding. He's a college drop out. And the last time I saw him do an interview, he was rude to a lady who confronted him with valid research about surgical procedures on kids for transsexualism. All he could do was act rude and hurl insults at someone who was trying to discuss the matter seriously.
@@carolblume5073 Of course :) Sorry, I should've remembered Poe's law; I appreciate that these days _all_ sarcasm, no matter how heavy-handed, needs an /s.
I can tell at 43:45 the host lady is as out of touch as the majority of democrats talking about Trump 1.0 No we do remember $1.78 gallon gas, affordable groceries.
I'm having trouble digesting this, but some of the representations seem obviously true to me. The difficulty I see is that Batya, as she says, is relating people and their opinions as she found them and this is interesting and valuable and respectful of their 'lived experience,' as they say, but these opinions have been manipulated and affected by an organized effort at misrepresenting everything. By Republicans. This, on my part, is not as respectful a view of working people as Batya's, but, what can I say, I think it is true. One party has had this self-interested drive and has said, openly, that they intended to control everything and make Democrats irrelevant. Which they accomplished to a shocking degree. And, since too many Americans have been disadvantaged by this for Republicans to get enough votes to keep their power they simply lie like maniacs, blaming it on Democrats. They have no good intentions. And they don't care how many lives they destroy. But perceptions determine votes and Batya's contribution is huge here. Would that the Democrats would listen. They are so politically tone deaf it's hard to believe. Republicans look like political geniuses when Democrats are handing them elections on a plate.
Can you point to some specifics of Republicans openly saying that they intended to control everything and make Democrats irrelevant, and to the the areas or ways that you believe they have accomplished?
I think the problem with this view is paying lip service to working people's "lived experience" then blowing them off as "manipulated." This is exactly the sort of virtue signaling and arrogance that has turned them off. They aren't wrong about everything, and you aren't right. Many working stiffs despise old-guard/establishment Republicans about as much as, and for many of the same reasons as they despise progressives and socialists, all of which talk down to them in the same elitist fashion you just did, while supporting policies and groups that appear to help the disenfranchised but, when you're scraping a living together, is very clear hurts. I haven't met you, but if I had to guess, I'd say that the problem you're facing is the same one the vast majority of us are: you're in an information bubble; maybe in a few, probably related ones. I don't know that you can pop that bubble (I haven't been able to), but you CAN step foot into other bubbles. I'd encourage you to explore some other bubbles that challenge your preconceptions. So for example, IF the comment near the end about black men not supporting Biden came as a surprise to you, go watch some black male commentators, especially conservative and centrist ones. Whichever bubbles you enter, really listen to what the people are saying. You don't have to agree, or agree with everything (I certainly don't), but really listen with intent, you can expand your worldview beyond your current echo chamber(s).
Think a key question is do the working class vote their economic interests or cultural values when the two conflict. And Biden and others who say they are "pro-union" aren't really when their tax & regulation agenda kill union jobs.
She doesnt seem to understand how tax cuts for business helps employment, and hence the w'orking class'; by the way, she uses the outmoded term 'working class' when she means middle class, both white and blue color. Perhaps she should read people like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sewell. Does she read any economics at all?
With respect to Batya, I'm only 10min into this. But her point about working class republican voters wanting universal healthcare is made out of her ignorance of economics. She's a socialist, because she thinks socialism is about taking care of the poor. But now, the elites are making the cost of living so high because they're taking all our money, these working class republican voters can't afford a quality doctor. So, if TRUE conservative economics are brought in, everything gets cheaper and these working class republican voters stand a better chance of affording high quality medical care. Socialism is an economic weapon to bring America down. So anything which costs money for the gov't is seen as adding to that demise. This is why Democrats love healthcare, not because they care about us. Democrats have brought the economy down many times before using this method, as we saw with the 2008 financial crash.
Did she actually say "universal" health care? I only heard "affordable." She did later repeat, several times, that working-class people really put value in working, and did not want or like hand-outs. Certainly she spoke in some left-leaning language, and I think that was aimed at her audience. I assume that audience are mostly left-leaning types, but only because the host asked several questions from a leftist perspective." Be careful lumping all democrats together. You're probably pretty aware that Republicans are a coalition of different factions, Democrats are a much wider coalition. Included are socialists (many of whom, yes, have said they want to bring the US system down), progressives (who want to make massive changes that would also destroy us), and old-school liberals. Many of that last group feel torn; they've seen their party move drastically to the (faaaaar) left and now get labeled as "reactionaries" and even "fascists" by people of their own party. Keep a nuanced view, it'll help you build allies and defeat the death cultists.
@@davagevorriose8046 I'm not assuming Batya's political stance based on what she said here. I'm basing it on how she described herself elsewhere. I'm not going to get into writing essays and essays to untangle everything you've written. But Batya's ideological position doesn't necessarily denote party affiliation here. But the problem is, the Marxists that decide the direction of the movement and (Democrat) party are the ones making the decisions, and to vote for them regardless of whether you're a Leninist or not, helps them achieve their end goals (enslavement of humanity, what else would you use to describe someone else benefitting 100% from your labor, but slavery which is what communism is). This is why Marxism is so dangerous, because the majority of voters (especially on the left), don't ask questions. Yes, the Republican party contains some of these political refugees from the left. Much to the Republican party's chagrin. Because these 'refugees' hamper the Republicans, much to the Democrat elite's benefit. You should read some Mussolini, he wrote for Avanti, Italy's largest left leaning newspaper (fascism originates from the left) and he translated socialist tracts. He spoke several languages. But his really useful contributions are some of his political terms which we use today. Totalitarianism is one case in point where he describes the society, not the gov't, all marching in lock-step with one another. Not differing one iota on any positions. That's pretty much what the left tries to do. Today, you can lose your job for stating the wrong opinion (ie disagreeing with a lefty position on something). Conservatives have no power to do such a thing (mainly because we haven't infiltrated human resources depts, and that's not our philosophy anyway). So rather than trying to develop a more nuanced view as to the subtleties that don't exist or aren't relevant to understanding this fascist movement, people need to wake the hell up and start realising how much danger the free world is in. Liberty hangs on by a thread and China is this close to enslaving us all, all with the complicity of those Democrat leaders you refer to. Btw another clever trick the left pulled was in calling it capitalism vs communism. It was really freedom vs fascism.
Democrats caused the 2008 crash, though George W Bush was president? Respectfully, might I suggest expanding your media watching habits from GOX and NewsMax?
You’re more likely to lose your job if you disagree with strongmen like Trump and DeSantis; just ask local DA’s in Fla or the scores of amazing appointees in the Trump WH.
Batya is right on every question . Intelligent and articulate (on the Victor Hanson level) . Would love to see more of her (she needs to get her own show).
Batya sees exactly what is happening politically and socially in the US.
Only if seen through her reductive America First lens.
If you ignore her obvious intellectual rationale for reelecting the greatest demagogue in the entire history of our nation.
Every coin has 2 sides
The lion in the zoo was entertainment. Now it isn't.
You were always food to it.
Amazing conversation, thank you for sharing!
This pretty smart young lady has a bright future ahead of her. She really impressed me !
thats my girl right there! speaking facts
Brilliant discourse 🙏
I can't believe that this woman actually said (at 28:10) that increases in Labour costs lead to inflation. Where has she been since the 1970's?
“Divide and conquer” explained in the first 12 minutes
Was the interviewer joking about Putin being responsible for inflation, or was she for real?
No, unfortunately for her she wasn’t joking. She was serious. And she lost all credibility will that asinine retort.
She is the very embodiment of the out of touch leftist elite that Batya zeros in on with her razor sharp perception of the American working class vis-à-vis the credentialed class. I guarantee the interviewers CV reads like a Tolstoy novel.
Out of control government spending and self-immolating fed policy, specifically quantitative easing is the primary reason for inflation. That kinda happens when you borrow recklessly to print trillions of dollars, flood the market with cash while shoving everything onto the feds balance sheet. You end up with too much cash chasing too few goods. Hence, inflation... We’re adding a trillion dollars to our National Debt every 100 days. The entire Putin/Inflation narrative is a fairy tail for children
She was serious. Crazy
@@btuesday It's certainly a factor, though not the only one. Russia and Ukraine are both massive food producers and the war as cut their production and sales. Similarly, Russia is a major exporter of fertilizer.
The US is a massive food supplier to the world, and we import a lot of food from overseas. While we're somewhat insolated from world markets by being a massive food producer and by distance (it has to be shipped across oceans), we're still connected to global markets.
In other words, it's supply and demand. The war has reduced global supply of some types of food and fertilizer, but hasn't reduced global demand, so prices go up.
Again, just one factor, but a real one.
Well said! Falls on deaf ears for those who want to blame Recovery Act spending alone.
Many of the working class are struggling to survive
I saw her on Heretics, brilliant mind and speaker!
She is quite a skilled propagandist
Propagandist? For whom?
Quite clearly, Trump and MAGA World. Though I’ll add that she soft pedaled her normally strident advocacy for the benefit of this well known SF public forum. Listen to her on other right-leaning sites, and you’ll see a different person altogether.
@@warrenmillsjr3618 Or so it seems from Proggo world, which sees hate, bias and delusion everywhere but in its own hateful, biased and deluded perspective.
How do I lear more about what happened in Southport if even Mr. Farage can't speak of it? I lived about 4 years in London, that city and England have a special place in my family history. I love England and listening to this and other posts, the thought of England as I knew it around 1990, disappearing in the coming decades, makes me extremely sad.
Immigration isn’t the main economic issue, monopoly power over markets, low wages, and investment firms owning too much real estate are.
rhmendelson-immigration is an economic issue; along with the issues that you mentioned.
2.5 million a year is a lot. But if some could be spread around efficiently, that would help
I recommend listening to a woman named Batya Ungar-Sargon. She can explain the impact of mass immigration.
“Mass immigration”, “Great Replacement Theory”, are self serving myths describing the mainstream of the Dem. Party’s position. Like mainstream Repubs, though, they have mangled the response to our amnesty law crisis to avoid political consequences. Politicians from both sides are going to have to challenge their extremes to repair our broken immigration system. A shameful blight on our whole political system!
No disrespect to Batya, but I highly disagree with her on a lot of her points 1st you're not working class if you're in that upper 20% of income level just because you didn't go to college or have a job that didn't necessarily require a college degree I was a high school dropout because my father was sick went back got my GED. I have worked in the financial services industry for 25 years and made a perfect living through hard work. My example of this also comes to the question of immigrants who come to this country with nothing and become millionaires or upper middle class, which you often see. We still have the most significant opportunities in this country if you're willing to work hard.
The other issue I had is she said that the working poor are usually the Democratic Party. Then how come eight out of the top ten states using the most federal resources, food stamps Wick, welfare checks, etc., are red states when some of the most profitable states happen to be blue states paying the highest tax brackets IE, California New York, Connecticut I think there's a lot of room for discussion here. Still, many blanket statements weren't the case.
The real question we should be asking is, let's talk about generational poverty. A lot of these people come from many generations of people working right above or below that poverty bubble. Unfortunately, somebody would love to make $38,000 a year when the opportunities are plentiful, and they should be able to do that. I would like to know more about that woman's situation and why she has yet to find that path, and that's where she needs help.
I am an immigrant, works in the financial industry and am a millionaire. I can tell you that the financial industry and tech industry wealth is not just from "hard work". The wealth gap between these and the rest of thr economy used to much less. It is cerainly globlization and the resulting low interest rate that created a massive income and wealth gap, which is the problem that split this country bith economically and politically. But even worse, it empowered the authoritariam regimes of China and destablized the world.
Zoning made housing unaffordable in California.
But can you outlaw zoning?
Just one factor among many, however.
I remember an old case where supreme court struck down racist zoning and that was before congress banned housing with racist covenants.
34:00 Batya deserved a smarter interlocutor, and one whose single-minded focus isn't on the electoral prospects of her party.
Again and again, "Tell me how Biden can win over these strange creatures you write about!"
A smarter interlocutor, yes, but one counter to your seeming admiration for Ungar-Sargon that could have seen through her deceptive narrative. Jon Stewart comes to mind…
@@warrenmillsjr3618 You're absolutely right. Jon Stewart, the intellectual powerhouse. He would've blown her out of the water.
It's real easy: actually close the border, continue the tariff work, stop the green bullshit talk, stop the woke program. Oh wait, that's trump's program.
@@MeganDelacroix Hope you're kidding. He's a college drop out. And the last time I saw him do an interview, he was rude to a lady who confronted him with valid research about surgical procedures on kids for transsexualism. All he could do was act rude and hurl insults at someone who was trying to discuss the matter seriously.
@@carolblume5073 Of course :) Sorry, I should've remembered Poe's law; I appreciate that these days _all_ sarcasm, no matter how heavy-handed, needs an /s.
I can tell at 43:45 the host lady is as out of touch as the majority of democrats talking about Trump 1.0 No we do remember $1.78 gallon gas, affordable groceries.
I'm having trouble digesting this, but some of the representations seem obviously true to me. The difficulty I see is that Batya, as she says, is relating people and their opinions as she found them and this is interesting and valuable and respectful of their 'lived experience,' as they say, but these opinions have been manipulated and affected by an organized effort at misrepresenting everything.
By Republicans. This, on my part, is not as respectful a view of working people as Batya's, but, what can I say, I think it is true. One party has had this self-interested drive and has said, openly, that they intended to control everything and make Democrats irrelevant.
Which they accomplished to a shocking degree. And, since too many Americans have been disadvantaged by this for Republicans to get enough votes to keep their power they simply lie like maniacs, blaming it on Democrats. They have no good intentions. And they don't care how many lives they destroy.
But perceptions determine votes and Batya's contribution is huge here. Would that the Democrats would listen. They are so politically tone deaf it's hard to believe. Republicans look like political geniuses when Democrats are handing them elections on a plate.
Can you point to some specifics of Republicans openly saying that they intended to control everything and make Democrats irrelevant, and to the the areas or ways that you believe they have accomplished?
I think the problem with this view is paying lip service to working people's "lived experience" then blowing them off as "manipulated." This is exactly the sort of virtue signaling and arrogance that has turned them off.
They aren't wrong about everything, and you aren't right.
Many working stiffs despise old-guard/establishment Republicans about as much as, and for many of the same reasons as they despise progressives and socialists, all of which talk down to them in the same elitist fashion you just did, while supporting policies and groups that appear to help the disenfranchised but, when you're scraping a living together, is very clear hurts.
I haven't met you, but if I had to guess, I'd say that the problem you're facing is the same one the vast majority of us are: you're in an information bubble; maybe in a few, probably related ones. I don't know that you can pop that bubble (I haven't been able to), but you CAN step foot into other bubbles.
I'd encourage you to explore some other bubbles that challenge your preconceptions. So for example, IF the comment near the end about black men not supporting Biden came as a surprise to you, go watch some black male commentators, especially conservative and centrist ones.
Whichever bubbles you enter, really listen to what the people are saying. You don't have to agree, or agree with everything (I certainly don't), but really listen with intent, you can expand your worldview beyond your current echo chamber(s).
Think a key question is do the working class vote their economic interests or cultural values when the two conflict.
And Biden and others who say they are "pro-union" aren't really when their tax & regulation agenda kill union jobs.
jews for trump baby
She doesnt seem to understand how tax cuts for business helps employment, and hence the w'orking class';
by the way, she uses the outmoded term 'working class' when she means middle class, both white and blue color.
Perhaps she should read people like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sewell. Does she read any economics at all?
With respect to Batya, I'm only 10min into this. But her point about working class republican voters wanting universal healthcare is made out of her ignorance of economics. She's a socialist, because she thinks socialism is about taking care of the poor.
But now, the elites are making the cost of living so high because they're taking all our money, these working class republican voters can't afford a quality doctor. So, if TRUE conservative economics are brought in, everything gets cheaper and these working class republican voters stand a better chance of affording high quality medical care.
Socialism is an economic weapon to bring America down. So anything which costs money for the gov't is seen as adding to that demise. This is why Democrats love healthcare, not because they care about us. Democrats have brought the economy down many times before using this method, as we saw with the 2008 financial crash.
Did she actually say "universal" health care? I only heard "affordable." She did later repeat, several times, that working-class people really put value in working, and did not want or like hand-outs. Certainly she spoke in some left-leaning language, and I think that was aimed at her audience. I assume that audience are mostly left-leaning types, but only because the host asked several questions from a leftist perspective."
Be careful lumping all democrats together. You're probably pretty aware that Republicans are a coalition of different factions, Democrats are a much wider coalition. Included are socialists (many of whom, yes, have said they want to bring the US system down), progressives (who want to make massive changes that would also destroy us), and old-school liberals. Many of that last group feel torn; they've seen their party move drastically to the (faaaaar) left and now get labeled as "reactionaries" and even "fascists" by people of their own party.
Keep a nuanced view, it'll help you build allies and defeat the death cultists.
@@davagevorriose8046 I'm not assuming Batya's political stance based on what she said here. I'm basing it on how she described herself elsewhere.
I'm not going to get into writing essays and essays to untangle everything you've written. But Batya's ideological position doesn't necessarily denote party affiliation here. But the problem is, the Marxists that decide the direction of the movement and (Democrat) party are the ones making the decisions, and to vote for them regardless of whether you're a Leninist or not, helps them achieve their end goals (enslavement of humanity, what else would you use to describe someone else benefitting 100% from your labor, but slavery which is what communism is). This is why Marxism is so dangerous, because the majority of voters (especially on the left), don't ask questions.
Yes, the Republican party contains some of these political refugees from the left. Much to the Republican party's chagrin. Because these 'refugees' hamper the Republicans, much to the Democrat elite's benefit.
You should read some Mussolini, he wrote for Avanti, Italy's largest left leaning newspaper (fascism originates from the left) and he translated socialist tracts. He spoke several languages. But his really useful contributions are some of his political terms which we use today. Totalitarianism is one case in point where he describes the society, not the gov't, all marching in lock-step with one another. Not differing one iota on any positions. That's pretty much what the left tries to do. Today, you can lose your job for stating the wrong opinion (ie disagreeing with a lefty position on something). Conservatives have no power to do such a thing (mainly because we haven't infiltrated human resources depts, and that's not our philosophy anyway).
So rather than trying to develop a more nuanced view as to the subtleties that don't exist or aren't relevant to understanding this fascist movement, people need to wake the hell up and start realising how much danger the free world is in. Liberty hangs on by a thread and China is this close to enslaving us all, all with the complicity of those Democrat leaders you refer to.
Btw another clever trick the left pulled was in calling it capitalism vs communism. It was really freedom vs fascism.
So you want import more doctors and build more medical schools to increase supply and reduce prices.
Democrats caused the 2008 crash, though George W Bush was president? Respectfully, might I suggest expanding your media watching habits from GOX and NewsMax?
You’re more likely to lose your job if you disagree with strongmen like Trump and DeSantis; just ask local DA’s in Fla or the scores of amazing appointees in the Trump WH.
31:00 um… wtf?