Die Deutsche "Dönertasche" Version des Döners wurde in Berlin erfunden. Wenn Deutsche zu Ausländer "Döner Kebab wurde in Deutschland erfunden" sagen, denken die meisten Leute an traditionellen Türkischen Lamm Döner Kebab Teller, dass ausserhalb von Deutschland überall in Türkischen Imbissbuden verkauft wird. Dieses Gericht gibt es in der Türkei seit Jahrhunderten und wurde auf jeden Fall nicht in Deutschland erfunden.
@@lazrseagull54 das ist richtig nur muß man wissen was die Leute darunter vertehen denn Kebab himself ist viel älter, in Berlin wurde erfunden Kebab zusammen mit Salatzutaten und Soße in eine Brottasche(döner) zu packen.
Kadir Nurman It happened in Berlin: In 1972, the Turk Kadir Nurman, who lives in Berlin, was the first to put meat in a flatbread with salad and yogurt garlic sauce and invented the kebab version that is so popular in Germany
i saw a interview or documentary with the guy and he thought "germans are always on the run, how can i make something that they can eat as fast food?" and since the original kebab is served on a platter, he thought it would be a great idea to put it into bread and it was
Nah, its not German. It still is sold by Turkish restaurants, not German restaurants. All the meat gets prepared by Turkish butcheries I think. Lets not claim fame for something "we" have nothing to do with. A Turkish guestworker invented it in Germany - or rather adapted Turkish kebab to the market in Germany and the fast food market. Kebab to go is maybe a better designation for Döner Kebab. Döner kebab was the gift of the Turks to us Germans, when they came here. We just bought it and made it therefore such a success. 🙂
Quote BBC (2013): "The Turkish immigrant credited with inventing the doner kebab has died in Berlin aged 80. Kadir Nurman set up a stall in West Berlin in 1972, selling grilled meat and salad inside a flat bread. While there are other possible "doner inventors," Mr Nurman's contribution was recognised by the Association of Turkish Doner Manufacturers in 2011."
East germany is the area where the clash of far right and far left is the biggest. One of the main reasons would be that we got the small end of the stick during the reunion and still have to fight with a lot of bad wages and old problems.
Also didn't help that ruzzia made East Germany pay about 98% of all german WW2 reparations and bled the east economical dry, while West Germany could take advantage of the marshall plan. And also the puppet government that helped indoctrinate generations with pro-ruzzian and anti-US/West/NATO propaganda for decades (many of those still alive and voting). And funny enough, both the far right and some of the far left seem to spew ruzzian propaganda the most (AFD and BSW).
I am a Dane, and have been in Berlin several times. When visiting Berlin, you should choose the old eastern Berlin. The Prenzlauer Berg area is very fine. Eastern Berlin is the place to be, it really has "vibes" and you will never run out of a place to eat.
I’m a Spaniard living in Berlin. And I agree! In West-Berlin capitalism failed. All of Berlin‘s slum are in the former West. It’s much dirtier, their are more migrants and oftentimes its very run-down. The east has preserved its own Charme and it‘s in a better condition
Born and raised Eastern Thuringian here. Yes, our local accent is very similar to Saxonian, as both regions share some history and culture. But we still have some different vocabulary. Even if we speak Hochdeutsch (high German), you can still hear a significant tone telling that we stem from the East of Germany^^ Also, do you remember that goldfish in "American Dad"? In the German dub of that series, he speaks Saxonian😂 Btw, I didn't see anything Thuringian here except Martin Luther and the Thüringer Rostbratwurst, which is kinda sad because Thuringia has a rich history and beautiful landscapes, too, especially the "Saalekaskade", which is like 5 dams along the Thuringian part of the Saale river, forming large reservoirs including the Bleilochstausee being the biggest reservoir of Germany by water volume as well as the Hohenwarte- Stausee (4th largest in Germany by water volume). Alongside the Saalekaskade, there are plenty of castles, forests and beautiful rolling hills. I feel like Thuringia is often just mashed together with Saxony without being recognised as a separate state with it's own unique culture.
Kebab is a old Arabian and Turkish speciality, it is just the grilled meat on a roating stick near a fire. The Greeks also had it and named it Gyros, they used pork meat instead of beef. Greeks sold in Germany Gyros Pita (Gyros in bread + white cabbage and tzatziki) as take away Gyros meal. A clever Turk in Berlin had the idea to copy the Gyros Pita, but use beef meat instead. He also put in salad and added two sauces. He sold it as Döner Kebap and it became a great success. He didn't made a patent and thousands of people are now following him all over Europe.
Kebab doesn't have to be grilled on a rotating stick. The rotating ones were already called döner (Turkish for rotating) long before they were served in Germany. "Dönertasche" is what Kadir Nurman invented in Berlin.
There are now over 18,000 kebab shops in Germany alone. However, with over 1600 stores, Berlin is the "capital of the kebab". According to the ATDiD association, 250 companies in the German kebab industry supply as much as 80 percent of the EU market
I am from east germany and I never gave a shit about east or west until I started my working life and actually felt the drastic differences financially. So the young woman at the end, is most likely a pupil or student. It actually goes quite a bit deeper than just less support from the gov, as there was deliberate acts of theft nationwide on east german companies and farmers, that still haven't been resolved to this day. We have since become a lot closer, but IMO nowhere near sufficiently enough of what could have been done And btw, yes the Döner was invented in Germany. Not Sweden or Britain!
I mean if i live in a big western city i'll probably have higher income but also higher cost and if i live in the countryside i'll have a bit less and lower costs. How is it unfairly different in the east? I'm really curious how you feel that's so much worse in the east.
@xxJOKeR75xx well you See Costa of living can actually be quite high in east german cities, even higher than some west german regions but the opportunities for high paying jobs are significantly lower. You even get paid less if you work for a company that works nationwide just because you are located in an eastern office thats just the sad truth 🤷♀️
@@xxJOKeR75xxEvery Type of Energy is more expensive in the East, like Fuel, Gas, Electricity. The only thing that is Cheaper is Rents.So the "Cost of Living Argument" is a good old Totschlagargument.
If you're in Berlin, don't miss a visit to the nearby city of Potsdam..... easy to reach by S-Bahn.... The wonderful Sanssouci Palace Park and the beautifully restored historic city centre... a beautiful unforgettable day trip
Anyone who visits Germany and has not been to East Germany has not seen Germany. Many inventions were made by people who were born in the east of Germany. Jena with the Carl Zeiss works. Meisen with Meisen porcelain. Dresden with the Dresden Zwinger. The Thuringian Bratwurst or the Dresden Stollen. Thale with the Hexentanzplatz. All East German.
In this compilation, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin is said to have invented it. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today.
I certainly haven't seen everything from the East, I've only visited Dresden, Leipzig, Halle, the Mecklenburg lake district, Stralsund and was thrilled. Actually, you can vacation in Germany for the rest of your life and get to know so many different regions. - of course the Germans don't do that, they prefer to fight with the British for every beach chair on Mallorca
The dish “Iskender Efendi” from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the origin of the popular döner kebab. Kadir Nurman, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin, refined the dish and was the first to sell it in Europe.
Moin Dwayne! It's really nice to watch you learning more about us Germans. Makes me smile, big time! I highly recommend 2 more videos you should dive into: This is Germany by Dr. Ludwig Top 10 words we should steal from German by RobWords Have a good one mate!
4:18 Spaniard here. I lived in Berlin for 16 years, now in Brandenburg. In major cities people are less happy in general. Cities change the psyche. The hustle and bustle, the noise and the anonymity dull us. Apart from that, Berlin has been broke for decades, unemployment is high, salaries are relatively low, politics is letting the city fall into disrepair, homelessness is very present, the city is unfortunately very dirty,... so it's clear that some people are unhappy. and quite honestly: Berlin has too many foreigners who just can't behave and mob and attack people. 10 years ago Berlin was a 10/10 for me but I don't like the way the city has developed.
For me, Friedensreich Hundertwasser's houses are fantastic buildings. New shapes, colors and views make every Hundertwasser House a unique experience. Why always loaf pans? greetings from Germany😊
Short Summary: Shish kebab, which is prepared on a horizontal grill, dates back to the Ottoman Empire and is mentioned in an 1836 diary of the Prussian military advisor, Count Helmuth von Moltke. A similar dish was probably invented again about 25 years later in Bursa by the chef and restaurant operator Iskender. For the first time, mutton was used as minced meat on a skewer, the well-known Iskender Kebap. Iskender and Hamdi, a chef from Kastamonu, are credited with inventing the vertical grill spit, but it may well have been used in Arabic beef shawarma and Greek pork gyros. In Istanbul, “döner kebab” has been available since the 1940s, but only in very few restaurants, one of which is in Topkapı Palace. Until then, all kebabs were always plate meals. Street sales of flatbread began for some snack bars or cafes in Istanbul in the late 1960s. It is unclear when the first kebab shop opened in Germany. According to legend, it was in Berlin on Kottbusser Damm in the early 1970s. According to another account, which is confirmed by the Association of Turkish Kebab Manufacturers, the kebab - at that time as grilled meat in flatbread with just onions - including its preparation on a rotating metal skewer, is said to have been invented by the Turkish immigrant Kadir Nurman and never patented; His first kebab snack bar was at the Bahnhof Zoo station (Berlin Zoological Garden) in the early 1970s. Nevzat Salim claims to have offered the doner kebab in Reutlingen as early as 1969. So, it's all very open and not concretely proven. Source: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_Kebab#Geschichte
Friedrich Hunderwasser was an Austrian Artist. Yes it seems weird but that was his Style..it's meant to be like that. We have more than 2 Buildings here in Austria..Vienna. I guess there are a few more. They look pretty cool, interesting, colorful, future like.
I'm from Berlin and I agree on the big city (doesn't have to be a capital city imo). In London people are similar as are they in New York. These are the big ones I visited.
Hi Dwayne if you manage to come to Germany I think you schould do some kind of round trip. I can't v.isit London and say I know England ;-). If you manage to come to Bavaria let me know maybe I can schow you a bit arround.
the famous 'Doener Kebab' as fast food is from Berlin, created by a Turkish guy in Kreuzberg (Kottbusser Tor. At that time you only had in Turkey and Turkish restaurants only the plate food which you also still get (but thats not famous outside of Turkey and also was unknown in Germany to most - the Greek Gyros (similar) was more known). The Berlin Doener was created for a German/Western taste (one reason why the ingredients were/are mostly not typical Turkish) part of the 'fast food wave' back then. You had no such Doener station in Turkey at that time and also today the imported Doener from Germany is much less spread there than in Germany. Also the biggest companies selling the mechanics and prepared Doener-Meat bundles are German (some externalized to Poland after the end of the cold war). One can also historically follow the spread from Berlin to the rest of Germany and then the world. Historically the idea to combine bread with something is very old and you had that in all kind of cultures (in Germany already in medieval age with 'automatic' rotating mechanics. A Hamburger, Sandwich, Fish Broetchen, Gyros are all variations of the same much older concept). But the famous Doener Kebab which is known to the world is from Berlin (you have also much more variations, not just the classic Doener Kebab. I like for instance more the 'Duerum Doener'). If the Turkish guy had not named it Turkish or just called it 'Turkish Burger' the associations were also different and more clear ...
Mr. Hundertwasser from Vienna was an artist and designed houses without corners (we have on near us). People who live in those houses, quiet like it. Elmar from Germany
Hi Dwayne. I love your reactions. I have a good tipp for you. There is a video on RUclips in english about the minority, the sorbs, and there region, the spreewald. It is europe largest lagune landscape, about 80 km south from Berlin away. Everything is transport by boat, people, garbage collection, post and so on. I would be happy if you reacted to the video. "Spreewald: Germany's Fairytale River Delta / Explore the Spree Forest by Kanoe, Boat and Bike. Greetings from Berlin 👋
iirc it was a turk in germany inventing the kebap or a german in turkey, that wanted to gibt the regular kebap a boost with giving it straight to the hand with a bun instead on a plate.
not the Kebab the Döner the Kebap is much older Kebap; türkisch für „gegrilltes oder gebratenes Fleisch Kalbfleisch in rechteckige Stücke geschnitten und gegrillt im deutschen ist Kebab nur die kurzbezeichnung für einen Döner Kebab Şiş Kebap (Schisch Kebab), ein traditioneller Grillspieß der türkischen und arabischen Küche aus mariniertem Lammfleisch, Tomaten und Paprika Tschelo Kebāb, das Nationalgericht Irans mit am Spieß gegrilltem mariniertem Lammfleisch
The tree cake is spread and baked in layers. This is repeated over and over again. Layer by layer. It takes 2 days to make, as it is cooled again and again. The price is €52 per kilo. In Latvia, this is the typical wedding cake. Because it is so expensive. It looks more like a Christmas tree.
17:06 In the respective parts of Germany (north, east, south and west), the cultures of Germany's neighboring countries have spread to Germany over a long period of time. The north has many cultures from the northern neighboring countries, the east from the eastern neighboring countries, etc. England, on the other hand, does not have that many neighboring countries. This is perhaps the reason why there are not as many cultures in England as there are in Germany.
Man muss auch bedenken, dass früher einige Teile der heutigen Nachbarländer zu Deutschland/ Germanien gehört haben, zum Teil bis zum Zweiten Weltkrieg (Ostpreußen, Schlesien, Böhmen, Mähren, Elsass- Lothringen...). Also haben diese Länder wohl eher Teile ihrer alten deutschen Kultur beibehalten, als dass die angrenzenden Teile des heutigen Deutschland diese von den Nachbarn übernommen hätten 😉
I'm half english from my dad site and half german from my moms site. But I was born and grown up in the East part of Germany. And I can tell you the east part has a lot of interesting places to find it's beautiful 😍
Looking back on the few years just after reunification, I remember some people in the west saying that it wasn't a lack of skill and training that held former East German workers back, but the inability to cope with the tempo and stress of full 8-hour workdays. For example, when East German businesses ran out of materials, they had to stop work and sit around/do makeshift jobs until a new batch could be delivered by the state-run organizations. In the West, that just didn't happen -- when one supplier couldn't deliver, you just went to the next so work could continue. It was far more fast-paced and intense, and many people had problems coping ... and consequently might gain an (undeserved) reputation of being inept, lazy, or even stupid. Culture clash at its worst.
Döner kebab was invented in Turkey centuries ago. It is turkish for Rotisserie skewered meat/Drehspießfleisch and is traditionally made from lamb, served on a plate with rice. The oldest photo of a Döner is from 1855. This version was imported to the UK in the 1940s, except today it's served in a polystyrene container with chips. The Berlin sandwich version invented in the 60s by Turkish guest worker Kadir Nurman is made from beef instead of lamb and served in a crispy Turkish bread with salad and sauces (typically chilli and cacik - a turkish equivalent of tzatziki) as a kind of sandwich called the "Dönertasche". This was indeed invented in Germany, yet many Germans like to insist Döner Kebab itself was also invented there, which isn't true. They just don't know the other versions. I do recommend trying the kebabs in Germany because they're their own thing and extremely delicious, similar to how indian food is way better in the UK than it is in other places. The UK kebabs are most popular among drunk people on a night out but the ones in Germany in comparison can almost be eaten for breakfast. When a family in the UK decides to order kebabs, the kids usually ask if they have cheeseburgers but in Germany, the kids love kebabs as much as they love pizza. It's actually the most popular fast food there, outselling the cheeseburger.
After Reunion I saw a sarcastic cartoon of 2 People on the border. The man on the west said " We are one people." The man in the east said" Us too" In the heads of older people there is still the border. But in the heads the border dissapear
@@urbanmyth1519sorry. Dient saw my correction tool thought it was German that i was writing and changed it. That ruined the joke completly and changed the meaning.. I corrected it
GErmany is one thing: What did you expect of a region with a history of migration immegration, emigration etc.? Germany ha s been multi cultural sice centuries.
West German living in Berlin here. I think for West European tourists East Germany might be the most interesting part (I'm not neccessarily talking about Berlin.) because of its history within the Eastern Block. Apart from its really outstanding landscapes from the beautiful sandy beaches on the Baltic Sea coast to the frankly bizarre rock formations of the Sächsische Schweiz (ach, there is so much: the very unique Spreewald, the Müritz National Park with all its lakes, the Saale-Unstrut wine-growing region... etc.), there are so many things to see and places to visit with rich history and culture. But the most intriging part (for me as a 'Westener') are the remains of all things GDR, because it used to be a different country and it's still visible in the architecture, sometimes in the structure or the lay-out of places. I find it fascinating. Yes, there is still a bit of a divide and it would be naive to expect anything else after decades of separation. The two different political and social systems had an impact on the way people see themselves (and others) and how they feel and behave. I've got lots of East German friends, we love each other dearly but there are differences and sometimes misunderstandings. In a very peculiar way we come from 'different' cultures. And because of this the comparison to the North-South divide in England is not really fitting. In Germany we also have a North-South divide (the South is much wealthier than the North) on top that is comparable to the situation in England. Even the reasons for this divide are the same: the demise of heavy industries like steelworks, coal mines, shipbuilding and so on.
Too add on that, I think what needs to be pointed out is that while there are plenty of differences between the West and the East. When you only focus on the generation born later than '95, the difference is mostly cultural. The turmoil and resulting social clash between the East and the West and vice versa after reunification is mostly limited to those that directly experienced it or grew up in the immidiate aftermath. Prejudice among those two groups is also mostly limited to the elder or inherited from them. But I also see myself, as someone having grown up in the West and now, and hopefully for the rest of my life, living in the East (Greifswald), in the self-mandated role of a mediator. We have to mend the gap between the groups, because despite our differences, we are all German. I have similar thoughts on the EU though.
The culture fits right into your comments on London - we were unified only for 70 years or so, but a feudal mess for 1,000 years or so and still federal. While Berlin is just nouveau riche, London kept the rest of the UK down for centuries. In fact, years ago I read the UK is most akin to a third world nation as far as wealth distribution between capital and everyone else goes.
Well, I think Brits are just as diverse. I knew Welsh and Scottish people and they always emphasized that they weren't English and often joked about it. And you’ve had wars at least as often as we have. Normans vs. Saxons, Saxons vs. Vikings, English vs. Scots, Cavaliers vs Roundheads, Mercia, Humbria, Angles, Danelag ... and later the entire Imperial Wars. I recently saw a map with countries that were not yet occupied by the British. There weren't many.
Döner kebabs are a type of Turkish dish similar to the Greek gyro or the Arab shawarma made with seasoned meat shaved from a vertical rotisserie, a style of cooking that dates back to the Ottomans. They are highly popular as a late-night snack or quick meal on the go throughout much of Europe. With Turks comprising the largest ethnic group of non-German origin in the country, many believe that the döner kebab was actually first created in Berlin by a Turkish guest worker named Kadir Nurman in 1972. He sold his first döner kebab in West Berlin across from Bahnhof Zoo. - BTW for vacation its hard to choose just one part of Germany - every part has beautiful things and totally different scenics, so it depends more on what you want to have during your vacation. Forest, Mountains, Ocean, Lakes.....
(Turkish) Döner = to spin (Turkish) Kebab = grilled meat Döner kebab = rotating grilled meat The type of kebab in the video, i.e. kebab in bread (quarter of a flatbread), originated in Berlin in the 70s.
Yeah, i remember when i was the first time to Berlin, that was around 1984, that in Bremen at that time Gyros Pita was still popular and in Berlin for the first time i saw Döner Kebap instead. So yeah i guess it started there and then took over to the rest of germany and replaced the Gyros Pita.
The honor of inventing the Döner Kebap truly belongs to the Turkish people. No questions asked. Kadir Nurman for a Bundesverdienstkreuz (the highest civilian medal of honor available in Germany). I believe he did more for Turkish-German relationships than almost any other person. This is coming from someone who is as German as it gets (with German ancestry going back for centuries). Without our great Turkish immigrant guest workers back in the late 1950's and 60's this marvelous invention would never have been made. So honor goes to where it belongs. That he was at the time already a fairly long-time resident still makes him as German as Einstein was American. At least from ancestry. That he could have applied for German citizenship is undoubtedly an option, and by modern standards it would have made him German as well. But at the time he was definitely Turkish. So the Döner Kebap in the flatbread was invented IN Germany, but definitely not BY a German.
The Turkish Döner Kebab is very similar to the Greek Gyros, except the Döner isnt made with pork while Gyros is. Starting in the 1960s, West Germany had a lot of guest worker immigrants from Greece, Italy, Turkey, northern Africa, several Asian countries, later asylum seekers from Ethiopia and Somalia, while Soviet East Germany in the 1950s had guest workers from other "communist" countries like Korea, China, Vietnam, Kuba. That's why we have a lot of Italian, Greek, Turkish, Mongolian, Chinese, Japanese, Indian restaurants and fast food, and Italian pizza parlours and ice cream parlours (during the summer).
It is said to have been invented by a Turkish guest worker in Berlin. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadir_Nurman
15:06 eastern Germany is interesting because it actually preserved its uniqueness unlike many parts of western Germany (and Western Europe) that were heavily americanised
The situation in East/West Germany is difficult to explain. In itself there is no longer a difference and yet there are still certain differences, politically, in the area of wages/pensions and probably a few other areas that I am not aware of. In relation to each other, it's how you feel about yourself. Fortunately, I quickly came into contact with people from Baden-Württemberg through my family and my home village (which is in Thuringia). My stepfather is actually from Baden-Württermberg and I visit them regularly. We also had contact with the West during the GDR era. Because my grandparents had friends “over there”. So in 1992 I was already in contact with a girl of the same age at the time and we spent time together when she visited us. But there are also people from West Germany who, just like those from East Germany, still have difficulties with the fact that Germany is united.
I think in many minds of the older population the West-East division still exists. But anyone born after 2000 only knows about divided Germany from the stories of the old people. This young generation feels German as a whole.
The Baushaus Design is so underrated and maybe a little misleadingly represented in this video. Many people don't know that the Bauhaus Design was a huge inspiration for successful brands like APPLE and IKEA. In architecture however, bauhaus design would be considered rather boring and unimaginative. But as for all trends in design, they come and go with generational change.
There are far too many ugly square buildings in Germany. They should bring the beautiful old German architecture back. I’m sure the majority of Germans would very much prefer the old architecture over the new.
Yorkshireman living in "Thuringen" former east Germany, my mother was born in Berlin and I lived there for 2 years as a child, the description of berliners describes my mother down to a T. 😂 Thuringen is called "The green heart of Germany 🇩🇪" it has Architecture, History, Castles, Nature, Sports, relaxation, (Thuringen) bratwurst, kloser and more! (Your welcome to stay!!) Stollen is sold in Aldi and lidl in the UK at Christmas time,(its supposedly symbolise baby Jesus wrapped up?) I like the one with a marzipan centre the mrs prefers several of the other types, but the best is from Dresden!👍
Kadir Nurman (* 1933 in Anatolia; † October 24, 2013 in Berlin) was a Turkish restaurateur who, according to the Association of Turkish Doner Kebab Manufacturers in Europe (ATDID), is considered the inventor of the doner kebab in Germany. It happened in Berlin: Legend has it that Kadir Nurman was the first to put meat in a flatbread in 1972 and invented the kebab version that was so popular in Germany. Juicy grilled meat on a spit, served with some lettuce, onions, a few slices of tomato and sauce in flatbread - with or without spicy, that's how the Germans know the kebab. In this compilation, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin is said to have invented it. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today. Doner kebab: meat in the bread and later salad was added Nurman came to Germany with the numerous guest workers from Turkey. He quickly noticed that Germany is a working-class country and that people eat out of their hands as they walk - in a very short space of time. Then in 1972 he had the idea: “At first he just put meat in the bread. “The salad was added later,” enthuses Tarkan Tasyumruk, chairman of ATDiD. “And the sauce.” In the early years, only guest workers would have eaten döner kebab in Nurman's snack bar at the zoo on Kurfürstendamm - until the Germans discovered the snack straight away. Since then, the kebab has become one of the most popular fast food dishes among Germans. And for a long time the legend persisted that he was typically Turkish. “The kebab is German,” counters Tasyumruk. In Turkey, skewered kebab meat used to only be served once a week - in the palace and among the fine people as a delicacy on their plates. “But it was only with an update, the German version, I would say, that the kebab became established over time,” says Tasyumruk. So the kebab ended up in flatbread as a doner in Turkey. Berlin is considered the “Kebab Capital” There are now over 18,000 kebab shops in Germany alone. But Berlin is “the kebab capital” with over 1,600 shops. According to the ATDiD association, 250 companies in the German kebab industry supply 80 percent of the EU market. They put 400 tons of meat on the skewers every day. According to Tasyumruk, German manufacturers and snack bars recently generated annual sales of 3.5 billion euros. There is a quality seal for the kebab In order to remain successful after the food scandals, the industry has developed a seal of quality. Only those who pass a seminar on hygiene when storing, preparing and serving the finished kebab receive the ATDiD quality seal, which can be attached to the snack bar. Kadir Nurman, the “father of the kebab” in Germany, died in October 2013 in Berlin at the age of 80.
When I lived 2007 in the UK a doner kebab there was something completely different. Mostly sold by indian or pakistani, a flatbread with tandoori or tikka masala chicken with salad, cucumbers, tomatos & onions & a hot &/or yoghurt type of sauce but I never saw any turkish style Döner. But many germans don't seem to understand that kebabs are much older & exist in all countries from India over Persia to the Balkans & down to Arabia.
@@kermitfrosch6559 Doubt they had German citizenship when they adapted the Turkish kebab to our market. You guys should respect more other ppl culture and heritage and not claim fame for something, you have nothing to do with. Everybody knows that kebab existed long before.
The Döner was definitive in den late 60s or early 70s in Germany invented. Some say in Berlin, some say in southern Germany. Reason was the large Population of turkisch Immigants at the end of the Sixties. At about the same time, a very similar Food from Greek became also popular. The Gyros Pita.
Friedensreich Hundertwasser (1928-2000) was an Austrian artist. His buildings are famous for their colourful and organic aesthetics as well as their integration of nature and the environment. His intention and philosophy when constructing his architecturally unusual buildings can be summarised that architecture should be in harmony with nature. His buildings are often surrounded by green spaces and trees, and he integrated living plants into his designs, both inside and out. He regarded nature as an integral part of the human habitat. He was against the uniformity and monotony of modern architecture and believed in the importance of individuality and personality in architecture. His buildings are often irregularly shaped and decorated with bright colours and patterns, giving each building a unique identity. He criticised the sterile and impersonal structures of modern cities and called for an architecture that takes people's needs and well-being into account. His buildings are often asymmetrical and unconventionally designed to create a friendlier and more welcoming environment.Hundertwasser was a pioneer in the field of environmental protection and sustainability in architecture. He advocated the use of natural and recycled materials and favoured the use of renewable energy sources. His buildings are often equipped with grass roofs, rainwater collection systems and other sustainable elements. Overall, it can be said that his intention and philosophy when constructing his buildings was to create a harmonious connection between man, nature and architecture. His works are an expression of his convictions regarding environmental protection, individuality and the pursuit of a more liveable environment for all people. And - Don´t equal the turkisch dish "Kebab" and the in germany invented fast-food-variety "Döner Kebap"!
20:40 The Brocken railway is the easiest way to get to the summit of the Brocken, where according to legend (and according to Goethe's play "Faust") in the Walpurgis Night (30 April - 1 Mai) the witches celebrate with one another. It is also the coldest and snowiest place in Germany north of the Alps. 20:45 The Bastei bridge, built in the 19th century to facilitate access to the rock formation dominating over river Elbe southeast from Dresden. 21:00 Spreewald (southeast of Berlin) is well known for its pickled gherkins and its many small canals and pittoresc Sorbian villages. See e.g. ruclips.net/video/c2JJh1KSu6U/видео.html
OK, now my two cents to summarize the Döner question. XD The ingredients for Döner have existed in history for a loooong time, of course. But First Kadir Nurman brought them all together in Berlin into the shape and form we all know love to eat today. It's like the Hamburger. It's not like the ingredients are complicated. It's how they were brought together is what created a new invention.
Erfunden wurde er meines Wissens, von Hasir in Kreuzberg, der damals noch ein Imbiss war - war dort als Kind (etwa 1992) oft mit meiner Familie essen. Heute hat der Besitzer ein türkisches Sterne Restaurant am Hackescher Markt 😉
22:08 I don’t wanna spam, but I have a lot to say about east Germany because many people are biased towards it and I wanna clear the air. I deliberately moved to eastern Germany, I do not regret it and I prefer it over western Germany. Many western Germans (including the younger generation) really look down upon eastern Germans and say derogatory things like „they’re too lazy to work“ (well, the trust company literally destroyed the East German economy after the reunification, so what do they expect), that they’re poor (the gap between east and west has been shrinking tremendously), and that they’re kinda backwards and stupid (erm, the two states with the best PISA-results are in Eastern Germany😂) I like it here because I feel like every region and city has its own spirit. Berlin is its own planet anyway, then go to Potsdam which literally borders Berlin and it’s a whole different world. Also Erfurt, Leipzig, Dresden, Halle, Rostock,… all differ from each other. And then go to Nordrhein-Westfalen in the west. Once you’ve seen one city, you’ve seen all of them cuz they’re quite the same. In general, the East German reputation of being „poor“ is so unjustified. Everything is renovated, all the buildings and streets are in a good condition, it’s clean, and because of the lack of industrialisation, there’s actual pristine NATURE there. Go to „wealthy“ western German cities and you see run-down buildings, graffiti and trash everywhere, homeless people,… (same applies for Berlin but that’s a different story) I don’t wanna bother you with my long text but I wanna make sure that people don’t get the wrong impression
so here is a story about a young lady with the age of 10 who thought the big awesome land is gorgeous and wild and beautiful colored. One day she stood with her family in the trainstation, waiting eight hours to jump on the next train to this wonderful land. Squeezed between hundreds of other ppl wanting the same. She was sad and happy the same time, she wanted her Barbydoll, she wanted the colorful things everyone had in this land. And the Excitement was huge, still as they finally reached the land... but oh boy, how fast turned her face from happy to sad. To misbelief in her eyes, to shame in her mind as a banana did land next to her and a can of coke and wild screams behind her. There was a man standing on a delivery truck throwing those things to the "refugees" to those who wanted to visited their new "home". And since then as she felt more and more not welcomed she wanted back home, wanted all the grey colors back and all the simple things. - just a little experience from my side , now I`m looking back at those moments and I`m sad they my land doesnt exist anymore. Gretings from Leipzig/East-Germany
So the two people you hear in the context of inventing the kebab are Iskender Efendi, who lived in Turkey and Kadir Nurman, who lived in Berlin. Looks from Wikipedia as if the Turkish Iskender kebap and the German Döner Kebab have the same ingredients but for a Döner Kebab the other ingredients are put inside the flat bread instead of just being served with flat bread. Edit: 3:00 It's beginning to sound like people just made the original Iskender kebap into a bunch of different dishes that shouldn't really share a name but do. Putting it on Pizza? No German would consider that a Döner. To a German, the word means Döner meat (or some alternative) put into flat bread with vegetables, salad and sauces. I guess the name is just about the rotating spit of meat slices.
Rumours say that a Turkisch immigrant in Berlin had a Restaurant. He recognized that Germans are always too busy to visit his restaurant and eat his dishes. So he put his dish into a bread and offered "Döner Kebap" to go.
Hello👋Dwayne, for you 👇 The doner kebab is actually called doner kebab. The Turkish term translates as “rotating grilled meat”. The kebab was invented in 1972. Its inventor is called Kadir Nurman. Nurman came to Germany as a guest worker at the end of the 1960s and initially lived in Stuttgart. When Nurman moved to Berlin in 1972, he noticed that many people here lived under time pressure and liked quick food on the go. That's when Nurmann came up with the idea for a kebab: he put meat and onions in a flatbread. This meant his customers could easily eat it out of their hands. The inventor of the kebab was a Turk. However, the popular dish was invented in Germany, more precisely in Berlin.
20:49 is the Bastei-Bridge near Dresden. Its in "Saxony- Swiss- Mountain". Ehen RUclips love old building you must visit the City Quedlinburg, the City of the first King of Germany.
In Berlin in the 1960s a türkish restaurant owner (dont know his name) recognized the People dont have the time because they are always in a hurry for sitting doen aand eat. He grabbed a loaf turkisch bread his meatt and all the Things which belong to a döner. Now he ownsthe largest company for the rotiserie meatfor dönrr in the World.
I think, the confuzing is about what exactly means Döner kebab. A dish called like that on a plate was already invented before and was also brought to Europe and became a fast food style here. But what was invented by this Turk guy in Berlin, was the "to go" version in a sandwich, that we mostly mean by today.
Oh yes it is real- It's the Bastei bridge in Saxon swizerland south of Dresden near the river Elbe. Love your channel! Well I like my city Dresden very much because of the architecture and the nature around. But I have a soft spot for north-germany too - so no real favorites here ^^. In what region of England do you live, Dwayne? Greetings from Lizz
It's cool that you want to come to Germany. But bro, please don't stay too long in Berlin. If you want to experience something of Germany, Berlin is actually pretty much the worst place in Germany to do so.
The döner was invented by a Turkish immigrant in Berlin. That is why it is so popular in Berlin. It was adapted to the German taste with cabbage. In Turkey it is only served as a dish. The bot is served as a side dish. It's not fast food there.
Greetings from Thuringia, the state with the most castles and palaces. Here, you'll find low mountain ranges and the Thuringian Tuscany. Weimar/Thuringia is the most German city; perhaps you'll discover why.
Take a look on Saxon Switzerland! 🙂👍 If you are a fan of nature and hiking you are absolute correct there! 😊 Döner ... oh... I eat them since 1995 in Germans east... incredible good here, because they are using the original oriental "Fladenbrot".❤ In other countries and also often west Germany is used an ordinary bun and is sooo dry with it... 🤪
the döner kebab has indeed been invented by a turk in germany. beforehand (and still) there are multiple turkish (regional) specialities for kebaps - adana and iskender, just to name a few. the idea of slicing minced meat and put it on a bread with vegetables dates back to the ottoman empire. if leniant, you could even count greek gyros into that style. Whatever - it just tastes great, in any form ;)
I live in Magdeburg and don't like the Hundertwasserhaus either. But the "Magdeburger Dom" is awesome and he City has a lot of History. (~1220 vears old) :)
It doesn't matter where the kebab comes from. Whether in England or Sweden or Germany. It was invented by Turkish immigrants and is one of the most delicious dishes that I simply love. Although I come from Schleswig-Holstein, I love the East Germans, especially the Saxons and their funny and great dialect. You should definitely make a reaction video about the video "that is Germany." There you can see Germany summarized from above. 😊
Yes, it sounds funny and that's the problem. 😂 Years ago I fell in love with a guy from Hamburg primarily because of his lovable dialect. Cannot imagine the same with a man from Saxony, I'm so sorry, Dear people from Saxony!!! 😂
You are correct about doner kebabs being available in the UK before 1972. The immigrant Turks may have popularised them in Germany but other countries had them before that. I was eating them in a Greek takeaway restaurant in central Birmingham before the 1970s. And we spell it 'doner kebab' not 'döner kebap'. Sorry Germany!
Fun fact: If the room or flat is untidy, many Germans say it "looks like Dresden '45" because after the Second World War, Dresden was almost a pile of rubble and ashes. Every region of Germany has it's beauty spots. My area (northwest) might be boring for British people because it is very similar (weather, landscape etc.)
The Döner Kebab is from Germany and was invented by one of the Turkish guest workers in Germany.
Die Deutsche "Dönertasche" Version des Döners wurde in Berlin erfunden. Wenn Deutsche zu Ausländer "Döner Kebab wurde in Deutschland erfunden" sagen, denken die meisten Leute an traditionellen Türkischen Lamm Döner Kebab Teller, dass ausserhalb von Deutschland überall in Türkischen Imbissbuden verkauft wird. Dieses Gericht gibt es in der Türkei seit Jahrhunderten und wurde auf jeden Fall nicht in Deutschland erfunden.
Yes, in Berlin.
@@lazrseagull54 das ist richtig nur muß man wissen was die Leute darunter vertehen denn Kebab himself ist viel älter, in Berlin wurde erfunden Kebab zusammen mit Salatzutaten und Soße in eine Brottasche(döner) zu packen.
Endlich jemand der es versteht. ^^@@lazrseagull54
@@lazrseagull54Wirklich? Ich dachte immer das türkische Gericht heißt einfach nur Kebab und die deutsche Version Döner Kebab
Kadir Nurman
It happened in Berlin: In 1972, the Turk Kadir Nurman, who lives in Berlin, was the first to put meat in a flatbread with salad and yogurt garlic sauce and invented the kebab version that is so popular in Germany
Döner Kebab🥙 was invented by a Turkish guest worker in Berlin. Meanwhile, Döner Kebab is as German as Bratwurst🌭 and Sauerkraut.🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
i saw a interview or documentary with the guy and he thought "germans are always on the run, how can i make something that they can eat as fast food?" and since the original kebab is served on a platter, he thought it would be a great idea to put it into bread and it was
Nah, its not German. It still is sold by Turkish restaurants, not German restaurants. All the meat gets prepared by Turkish butcheries I think. Lets not claim fame for something "we" have nothing to do with. A Turkish guestworker invented it in Germany - or rather adapted Turkish kebab to the market in Germany and the fast food market. Kebab to go is maybe a better designation for Döner Kebab. Döner kebab was the gift of the Turks to us Germans, when they came here. We just bought it and made it therefore such a success. 🙂
And still, there is NOOOO Döner Kebab in turky. So its a german dish. @@gunwu9084
Quote BBC (2013): "The Turkish immigrant credited with inventing the doner kebab has died in Berlin aged 80. Kadir Nurman set up a stall in West Berlin in 1972, selling grilled meat and salad inside a flat bread. While there are other possible "doner inventors," Mr Nurman's contribution was recognised by the Association of Turkish Doner Manufacturers in 2011."
Huh, I thought it was invented in Turkey. Interesting.
East germany is the area where the clash of far right and far left is the biggest.
One of the main reasons would be that we got the small end of the stick during the reunion and still have to fight with a lot of bad wages and old problems.
Also didn't help that ruzzia made East Germany pay about 98% of all german WW2 reparations and bled the east economical dry, while West Germany could take advantage of the marshall plan.
And also the puppet government that helped indoctrinate generations with pro-ruzzian and anti-US/West/NATO propaganda for decades (many of those still alive and voting).
And funny enough, both the far right and some of the far left seem to spew ruzzian propaganda the most (AFD and BSW).
I am a Dane, and have been in Berlin several times.
When visiting Berlin, you should choose the old eastern Berlin. The Prenzlauer Berg area is very fine. Eastern Berlin is the place to be, it really has "vibes" and you will never run out of a place to eat.
I’m a Spaniard living in Berlin. And I agree! In West-Berlin capitalism failed. All of Berlin‘s slum are in the former West. It’s much dirtier, their are more migrants and oftentimes its very run-down. The east has preserved its own Charme and it‘s in a better condition
Born and raised Eastern Thuringian here. Yes, our local accent is very similar to Saxonian, as both regions share some history and culture. But we still have some different vocabulary. Even if we speak Hochdeutsch (high German), you can still hear a significant tone telling that we stem from the East of Germany^^
Also, do you remember that goldfish in "American Dad"? In the German dub of that series, he speaks Saxonian😂
Btw, I didn't see anything Thuringian here except Martin Luther and the Thüringer Rostbratwurst, which is kinda sad because Thuringia has a rich history and beautiful landscapes, too, especially the "Saalekaskade", which is like 5 dams along the Thuringian part of the Saale river, forming large reservoirs including the Bleilochstausee being the biggest reservoir of Germany by water volume as well as the Hohenwarte- Stausee (4th largest in Germany by water volume). Alongside the Saalekaskade, there are plenty of castles, forests and beautiful rolling hills.
I feel like Thuringia is often just mashed together with Saxony without being recognised as a separate state with it's own unique culture.
Kebab is a old Arabian and Turkish speciality, it is just the grilled meat on a roating stick near a fire. The Greeks also had it and named it Gyros, they used pork meat instead of beef. Greeks sold in Germany Gyros Pita (Gyros in bread + white cabbage and tzatziki) as take away Gyros meal. A clever Turk in Berlin had the idea to copy the Gyros Pita, but use beef meat instead. He also put in salad and added two sauces. He sold it as Döner Kebap and it became a great success. He didn't made a patent and thousands of people are now following him all over Europe.
Kebab doesn't have to be grilled on a rotating stick. The rotating ones were already called döner (Turkish for rotating) long before they were served in Germany. "Dönertasche" is what Kadir Nurman invented in Berlin.
There are now over 18,000 kebab shops in Germany alone. However, with over 1600 stores, Berlin is the "capital of the kebab". According to the ATDiD association, 250 companies in the German kebab industry supply as much as 80 percent of the EU market
I am from east germany and I never gave a shit about east or west until I started my working life and actually felt the drastic differences financially. So the young woman at the end, is most likely a pupil or student. It actually goes quite a bit deeper than just less support from the gov, as there was deliberate acts of theft nationwide on east german companies and farmers, that still haven't been resolved to this day. We have since become a lot closer, but IMO nowhere near sufficiently enough of what could have been done
And btw, yes the Döner was invented in Germany. Not Sweden or Britain!
I mean if i live in a big western city i'll probably have higher income but also higher cost and if i live in the countryside i'll have a bit less and lower costs. How is it unfairly different in the east? I'm really curious how you feel that's so much worse in the east.
@xxJOKeR75xx well you See Costa of living can actually be quite high in east german cities, even higher than some west german regions but the opportunities for high paying jobs are significantly lower. You even get paid less if you work for a company that works nationwide just because you are located in an eastern office thats just the sad truth 🤷♀️
@@xxJOKeR75xxEvery Type of Energy is more expensive in the East, like Fuel, Gas, Electricity. The only thing that is Cheaper is Rents.So the "Cost of Living Argument" is a good old Totschlagargument.
6sorry but your (grand) parents made some bad decidions and you pay for that. And as always lack of ome luck
@@l.p.7960 what a dumb answer, Just remove yourself from this conversation, Troll.
East Germany is so worth seeing. It is very underrated. Give it a try.
Jetzt weiß aber auch wirklich JEDER, wer unseren famosen Döner erfand!!!😂
If you're in Berlin, don't miss a visit to the nearby city of Potsdam..... easy to reach by S-Bahn.... The wonderful Sanssouci Palace Park and the beautifully restored historic city centre... a beautiful unforgettable day trip
Anyone who visits Germany and has not been to East Germany has not seen Germany. Many inventions were made by people who were born in the east of Germany. Jena with the Carl Zeiss works. Meisen with Meisen porcelain. Dresden with the Dresden Zwinger. The Thuringian Bratwurst or the Dresden Stollen. Thale with the Hexentanzplatz. All East German.
where i live ... in the palatinate things can change from village to village like 2 km way and there is langurage diferences..
In this compilation, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin is said to have invented it. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today.
I certainly haven't seen everything from the East, I've only visited Dresden, Leipzig, Halle, the Mecklenburg lake district, Stralsund and was thrilled. Actually, you can vacation in Germany for the rest of your life and get to know so many different regions. - of course the Germans don't do that, they prefer to fight with the British for every beach chair on Mallorca
Döner Kebap British origin? Never heard this theory. Funny! Invented in Berlin at Restaurant named „Hasir“.
The dish “Iskender Efendi” from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the origin of the popular döner kebab. Kadir Nurman, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin, refined the dish and was the first to sell it in Europe.
Moin Dwayne! It's really nice to watch you learning more about us Germans. Makes me smile, big time!
I highly recommend 2 more videos you should dive into:
This is Germany by Dr. Ludwig
Top 10 words we should steal from German by RobWords
Have a good one mate!
4:18 Spaniard here. I lived in Berlin for 16 years, now in Brandenburg. In major cities people are less happy in general. Cities change the psyche. The hustle and bustle, the noise and the anonymity dull us. Apart from that, Berlin has been broke for decades, unemployment is high, salaries are relatively low, politics is letting the city fall into disrepair, homelessness is very present, the city is unfortunately very dirty,... so it's clear that some people are unhappy. and quite honestly: Berlin has too many foreigners who just can't behave and mob and attack people. 10 years ago Berlin was a 10/10 for me but I don't like the way the city has developed.
The Harz region is very famous for Walpurgis Night, which is the Germanic equivalent to Beltane.
Thank you for beeing such a positive person!
For me, Friedensreich Hundertwasser's houses are fantastic buildings. New shapes, colors and views make every Hundertwasser House a unique experience. Why always loaf pans? greetings from Germany😊
Short Summary:
Shish kebab, which is prepared on a horizontal grill, dates back to the Ottoman Empire and is mentioned in an 1836 diary of the Prussian military advisor, Count Helmuth von Moltke. A similar dish was probably invented again about 25 years later in Bursa by the chef and restaurant operator Iskender. For the first time, mutton was used as minced meat on a skewer, the well-known Iskender Kebap.
Iskender and Hamdi, a chef from Kastamonu, are credited with inventing the vertical grill spit, but it may well have been used in Arabic beef shawarma and Greek pork gyros.
In Istanbul, “döner kebab” has been available since the 1940s, but only in very few restaurants, one of which is in Topkapı Palace. Until then, all kebabs were always plate meals.
Street sales of flatbread began for some snack bars or cafes in Istanbul in the late 1960s.
It is unclear when the first kebab shop opened in Germany. According to legend, it was in Berlin on Kottbusser Damm in the early 1970s.
According to another account, which is confirmed by the Association of Turkish Kebab Manufacturers, the kebab - at that time as grilled meat in flatbread with just onions - including its preparation on a rotating metal skewer, is said to have been invented by the Turkish immigrant Kadir Nurman and never patented; His first kebab snack bar was at the Bahnhof Zoo station (Berlin Zoological Garden) in the early 1970s. Nevzat Salim claims to have offered the doner kebab in Reutlingen as early as 1969.
So, it's all very open and not concretely proven.
Source:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_Kebab#Geschichte
Bahnhof Zoo station was my first ever Döner in 1986 ... when comparing it to today's Döner I must admit this was the best😊
Friedrich Hunderwasser was an Austrian Artist. Yes it seems weird but that was his Style..it's meant to be like that. We have more than 2 Buildings here in Austria..Vienna. I guess there are a few more. They look pretty cool, interesting, colorful, future like.
Love Hundertwasser buildings. Can’t stand square stuff.
I'm from Berlin and I agree on the big city (doesn't have to be a capital city imo). In London people are similar as are they in New York.
These are the big ones I visited.
Döner-meat in the "to-go-version" in a bread has been invented by turkish people in the old West-Berlin.
I love Hunterwasser architecture! :)
Hi Dwayne if you manage to come to Germany I think you schould do some kind of round trip. I can't v.isit London and say I know England ;-). If you manage to come to Bavaria let me know maybe I can schow you a bit arround.
the famous 'Doener Kebab' as fast food is from Berlin, created by a Turkish guy in Kreuzberg (Kottbusser Tor. At that time you only had in Turkey and Turkish restaurants only the plate food which you also still get (but thats not famous outside of Turkey and also was unknown in Germany to most - the Greek Gyros (similar) was more known). The Berlin Doener was created for a German/Western taste (one reason why the ingredients were/are mostly not typical Turkish) part of the 'fast food wave' back then. You had no such Doener station in Turkey at that time and also today the imported Doener from Germany is much less spread there than in Germany. Also the biggest companies selling the mechanics and prepared Doener-Meat bundles are German (some externalized to Poland after the end of the cold war). One can also historically follow the spread from Berlin to the rest of Germany and then the world. Historically the idea to combine bread with something is very old and you had that in all kind of cultures (in Germany already in medieval age with 'automatic' rotating mechanics. A Hamburger, Sandwich, Fish Broetchen, Gyros are all variations of the same much older concept). But the famous Doener Kebab which is known to the world is from Berlin (you have also much more variations, not just the classic Doener Kebab. I like for instance more the 'Duerum Doener'). If the Turkish guy had not named it Turkish or just called it 'Turkish Burger' the associations were also different and more clear ...
Mr. Hundertwasser from Vienna was an artist and designed houses without corners (we have on near us). People who live in those houses, quiet like it.
Elmar from Germany
Hi Dwayne. I love your reactions. I have a good tipp for you. There is a video on RUclips in english about the minority, the sorbs, and there region, the spreewald. It is europe largest lagune landscape, about 80 km south from Berlin away. Everything is transport by boat, people, garbage collection, post and so on. I would be happy if you reacted to the video. "Spreewald: Germany's Fairytale River Delta / Explore the Spree Forest by Kanoe, Boat and Bike. Greetings from Berlin 👋
iirc it was a turk in germany inventing the kebap or a german in turkey, that wanted to gibt the regular kebap a boost with giving it straight to the hand with a bun instead on a plate.
not the Kebab the Döner the Kebap is much older
Kebap; türkisch für „gegrilltes oder gebratenes Fleisch Kalbfleisch in rechteckige Stücke geschnitten und gegrillt im deutschen ist Kebab nur die kurzbezeichnung für einen Döner Kebab
Şiş Kebap (Schisch Kebab), ein traditioneller Grillspieß der türkischen und arabischen Küche aus mariniertem Lammfleisch, Tomaten und Paprika
Tschelo Kebāb, das Nationalgericht Irans mit am Spieß gegrilltem mariniertem Lammfleisch
The tree cake is spread and baked in layers. This is repeated over and over again. Layer by layer. It takes 2 days to make, as it is cooled again and again. The price is €52 per kilo.
In Latvia, this is the typical wedding cake. Because it is so expensive. It looks more like a Christmas tree.
There used to be quite a few languages in the UK, but all of them except Welsh were pretty much stamped out. Think Manx, Cornish, Scottish etc
17:06 In the respective parts of Germany (north, east, south and west), the cultures of Germany's neighboring countries have spread to Germany over a long period of time. The north has many cultures from the northern neighboring countries, the east from the eastern neighboring countries, etc. England, on the other hand, does not have that many neighboring countries. This is perhaps the reason why there are not as many cultures in England as there are in Germany.
Man muss auch bedenken, dass früher einige Teile der heutigen Nachbarländer zu Deutschland/ Germanien gehört haben, zum Teil bis zum Zweiten Weltkrieg (Ostpreußen, Schlesien, Böhmen, Mähren, Elsass- Lothringen...). Also haben diese Länder wohl eher Teile ihrer alten deutschen Kultur beibehalten, als dass die angrenzenden Teile des heutigen Deutschland diese von den Nachbarn übernommen hätten 😉
I'm half english from my dad site and half german from my moms site. But I was born and grown up in the East part of Germany. And I can tell you the east part has a lot of interesting places to find it's beautiful 😍
Berliner here! Yes, people here are very very direct, a bit rude and overwhelmingly sarcastic.
Looking back on the few years just after reunification, I remember some people in the west saying that it wasn't a lack of skill and training that held former East German workers back, but the inability to cope with the tempo and stress of full 8-hour workdays. For example, when East German businesses ran out of materials, they had to stop work and sit around/do makeshift jobs until a new batch could be delivered by the state-run organizations. In the West, that just didn't happen -- when one supplier couldn't deliver, you just went to the next so work could continue. It was far more fast-paced and intense, and many people had problems coping ... and consequently might gain an (undeserved) reputation of being inept, lazy, or even stupid. Culture clash at its worst.
Döner kebab was invented in Turkey centuries ago. It is turkish for Rotisserie skewered meat/Drehspießfleisch and is traditionally made from lamb, served on a plate with rice. The oldest photo of a Döner is from 1855. This version was imported to the UK in the 1940s, except today it's served in a polystyrene container with chips.
The Berlin sandwich version invented in the 60s by Turkish guest worker Kadir Nurman is made from beef instead of lamb and served in a crispy Turkish bread with salad and sauces (typically chilli and cacik - a turkish equivalent of tzatziki) as a kind of sandwich called the "Dönertasche". This was indeed invented in Germany, yet many Germans like to insist Döner Kebab itself was also invented there, which isn't true. They just don't know the other versions.
I do recommend trying the kebabs in Germany because they're their own thing and extremely delicious, similar to how indian food is way better in the UK than it is in other places. The UK kebabs are most popular among drunk people on a night out but the ones in Germany in comparison can almost be eaten for breakfast. When a family in the UK decides to order kebabs, the kids usually ask if they have cheeseburgers but in Germany, the kids love kebabs as much as they love pizza. It's actually the most popular fast food there, outselling the cheeseburger.
After Reunion I saw a sarcastic cartoon of 2 People on the border. The man on the west said " We are one people." The man in the east said" Us too" In the heads of older people there is still the border. But in the heads the border dissapear
Actually it was quite the opposite. You just have to think which part wanted to join the "Bundesrepublik" Germany.
@@urbanmyth1519sorry. Dient saw my correction tool thought it was German that i was writing and changed it. That ruined the joke completly and changed the meaning.. I corrected it
GErmany is one thing:
What did you expect of a region with a history of migration immegration, emigration etc.?
Germany ha s been multi cultural sice centuries.
West German living in Berlin here.
I think for West European tourists East Germany might be the most interesting part (I'm not neccessarily talking about Berlin.) because of its history within the Eastern Block.
Apart from its really outstanding landscapes from the beautiful sandy beaches on the Baltic Sea coast to the frankly bizarre rock formations of the Sächsische Schweiz (ach, there is so much: the very unique Spreewald, the Müritz National Park with all its lakes, the Saale-Unstrut wine-growing region... etc.), there are so many things to see and places to visit with rich history and culture.
But the most intriging part (for me as a 'Westener') are the remains of all things GDR, because it used to be a different country and it's still visible in the architecture, sometimes in the structure or the lay-out of places.
I find it fascinating.
Yes, there is still a bit of a divide and it would be naive to expect anything else after decades of separation. The two different political and social systems had an impact on the way people see themselves (and others) and how they feel and behave. I've got lots of East German friends, we love each other dearly but there are differences and sometimes misunderstandings.
In a very peculiar way we come from 'different' cultures.
And because of this the comparison to the North-South divide in England is not really fitting. In Germany we also have a North-South divide (the South is much wealthier than the North) on top that is comparable to the situation in England. Even the reasons for this divide are the same: the demise of heavy industries like steelworks, coal mines, shipbuilding and so on.
Too add on that, I think what needs to be pointed out is that while there are plenty of differences between the West and the East. When you only focus on the generation born later than '95, the difference is mostly cultural. The turmoil and resulting social clash between the East and the West and vice versa after reunification is mostly limited to those that directly experienced it or grew up in the immidiate aftermath. Prejudice among those two groups is also mostly limited to the elder or inherited from them. But I also see myself, as someone having grown up in the West and now, and hopefully for the rest of my life, living in the East (Greifswald), in the self-mandated role of a mediator. We have to mend the gap between the groups, because despite our differences, we are all German. I have similar thoughts on the EU though.
The culture fits right into your comments on London - we were unified only for 70 years or so, but a feudal mess for 1,000 years or so and still federal. While Berlin is just nouveau riche, London kept the rest of the UK down for centuries. In fact, years ago I read the UK is most akin to a third world nation as far as wealth distribution between capital and everyone else goes.
Well, I think Brits are just as diverse. I knew Welsh and Scottish people and they always emphasized that they weren't English and often joked about it.
And you’ve had wars at least as often as we have. Normans vs. Saxons, Saxons vs. Vikings, English vs. Scots, Cavaliers vs Roundheads, Mercia, Humbria, Angles, Danelag ... and later the entire Imperial Wars. I recently saw a map with countries that were not yet occupied by the British. There weren't many.
Döner kebabs are a type of Turkish dish similar to the Greek gyro or the Arab shawarma made with seasoned meat shaved from a vertical rotisserie, a style of cooking that dates back to the Ottomans. They are highly popular as a late-night snack or quick meal on the go throughout much of Europe. With Turks comprising the largest ethnic group of non-German origin in the country, many believe that the döner kebab was actually first created in Berlin by a Turkish guest worker named Kadir Nurman in 1972. He sold his first döner kebab in West Berlin across from Bahnhof Zoo. - BTW for vacation its hard to choose just one part of Germany - every part has beautiful things and totally different scenics, so it depends more on what you want to have during your vacation. Forest, Mountains, Ocean, Lakes.....
For what it's worth, I first saw a Döner stall on a visit to London back in the late seventies. 🙂
(Turkish) Döner = to spin
(Turkish) Kebab = grilled meat
Döner kebab = rotating grilled meat
The type of kebab in the video, i.e. kebab in bread (quarter of a flatbread), originated in Berlin in the 70s.
13:41 "Oh, you redecorated? I don't like it!" 😉😂
Yeah, i remember when i was the first time to Berlin, that was around 1984, that in Bremen at that time Gyros Pita was still popular and in Berlin for the first time i saw Döner Kebap instead. So yeah i guess it started there and then took over to the rest of germany and replaced the Gyros Pita.
The honor of inventing the Döner Kebap truly belongs to the Turkish people. No questions asked. Kadir Nurman for a Bundesverdienstkreuz (the highest civilian medal of honor available in Germany). I believe he did more for Turkish-German relationships than almost any other person.
This is coming from someone who is as German as it gets (with German ancestry going back for centuries). Without our great Turkish immigrant guest workers back in the late 1950's and 60's this marvelous invention would never have been made. So honor goes to where it belongs.
That he was at the time already a fairly long-time resident still makes him as German as Einstein was American. At least from ancestry. That he could have applied for German citizenship is undoubtedly an option, and by modern standards it would have made him German as well. But at the time he was definitely Turkish. So the Döner Kebap in the flatbread was invented IN Germany, but definitely not BY a German.
The Turkish Döner Kebab is very similar to the Greek Gyros, except the Döner isnt made with pork while Gyros is. Starting in the 1960s, West Germany had a lot of guest worker immigrants from Greece, Italy, Turkey, northern Africa, several Asian countries, later asylum seekers from Ethiopia and Somalia, while Soviet East Germany in the 1950s had guest workers from other "communist" countries like Korea, China, Vietnam, Kuba. That's why we have a lot of Italian, Greek, Turkish, Mongolian, Chinese, Japanese, Indian restaurants and fast food, and Italian pizza parlours and ice cream parlours (during the summer).
It is said to have been invented by a Turkish guest worker in Berlin. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadir_Nurman
15:06 eastern Germany is interesting because it actually preserved its uniqueness unlike many parts of western Germany (and Western Europe) that were heavily americanised
The situation in East/West Germany is difficult to explain. In itself there is no longer a difference and yet there are still certain differences, politically, in the area of wages/pensions and probably a few other areas that I am not aware of. In relation to each other, it's how you feel about yourself. Fortunately, I quickly came into contact with people from Baden-Württemberg through my family and my home village (which is in Thuringia). My stepfather is actually from Baden-Württermberg and I visit them regularly. We also had contact with the West during the GDR era. Because my grandparents had friends “over there”. So in 1992 I was already in contact with a girl of the same age at the time and we spent time together when she visited us. But there are also people from West Germany who, just like those from East Germany, still have difficulties with the fact that Germany is united.
I think in many minds of the older population the West-East division still exists.
But anyone born after 2000 only knows about divided Germany from the stories of the old people.
This young generation feels German as a whole.
The Baushaus Design is so underrated and maybe a little misleadingly represented in this video. Many people don't know that the Bauhaus Design was a huge inspiration for successful brands like APPLE and IKEA. In architecture however, bauhaus design would be considered rather boring and unimaginative. But as for all trends in design, they come and go with generational change.
There are far too many ugly square buildings in Germany. They should bring the beautiful old German architecture back. I’m sure the majority of Germans would very much prefer the old architecture over the new.
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Yorkshireman living in "Thuringen" former east Germany, my mother was born in Berlin and I lived there for 2 years as a child, the description of berliners describes my mother down to a T. 😂 Thuringen is called "The green heart of Germany 🇩🇪" it has Architecture, History, Castles, Nature, Sports, relaxation, (Thuringen) bratwurst, kloser and more! (Your welcome to stay!!) Stollen is sold in Aldi and lidl in the UK at Christmas time,(its supposedly symbolise baby Jesus wrapped up?) I like the one with a marzipan centre the mrs prefers several of the other types, but the best is from Dresden!👍
Kadir Nurman (* 1933 in Anatolia; † October 24, 2013 in Berlin) was a Turkish restaurateur who, according to the Association of Turkish Doner Kebab Manufacturers in Europe (ATDID), is considered the inventor of the doner kebab in Germany.
It happened in Berlin: Legend has it that Kadir Nurman was the first to put meat in a flatbread in 1972 and invented the kebab version that was so popular in Germany.
Juicy grilled meat on a spit, served with some lettuce, onions, a few slices of tomato and sauce in flatbread - with or without spicy, that's how the Germans know the kebab. In this compilation, a Turkish guest worker in Berlin is said to have invented it. According to the Association of Turkish Doner Makers in Europe, ATDiD, his name is Kadir Nurman. Iskender Efendi from the Turkish city of Bursa is considered to be the pioneer of the doner kebab, which is so popular today.
Doner kebab: meat in the bread and later salad was added
Nurman came to Germany with the numerous guest workers from Turkey. He quickly noticed that Germany is a working-class country and that people eat out of their hands as they walk - in a very short space of time. Then in 1972 he had the idea: “At first he just put meat in the bread. “The salad was added later,” enthuses Tarkan Tasyumruk, chairman of ATDiD. “And the sauce.” In the early years, only guest workers would have eaten döner kebab in Nurman's snack bar at the zoo on Kurfürstendamm - until the Germans discovered the snack straight away.
Since then, the kebab has become one of the most popular fast food dishes among Germans. And for a long time the legend persisted that he was typically Turkish. “The kebab is German,” counters Tasyumruk. In Turkey, skewered kebab meat used to only be served once a week - in the palace and among the fine people as a delicacy on their plates. “But it was only with an update, the German version, I would say, that the kebab became established over time,” says Tasyumruk. So the kebab ended up in flatbread as a doner in
Turkey.
Berlin is considered the “Kebab Capital”
There are now over 18,000 kebab shops in Germany alone. But Berlin is “the kebab capital” with over 1,600 shops. According to the ATDiD association, 250 companies in the German kebab industry supply 80 percent of the EU market. They put 400 tons of meat on the skewers every day. According to Tasyumruk, German manufacturers and snack bars recently generated annual sales of 3.5 billion euros.
There is a quality seal for the kebab
In order to remain successful after the food scandals, the industry has developed a seal of quality. Only those who pass a seminar on hygiene when storing, preparing and serving the finished kebab receive the ATDiD quality seal, which can be attached to the snack bar.
Kadir Nurman, the “father of the kebab” in Germany, died in October 2013 in Berlin at the age of 80.
When I lived 2007 in the UK a doner kebab there was something completely different. Mostly sold by indian or pakistani, a flatbread with tandoori or tikka masala chicken with salad, cucumbers, tomatos & onions & a hot &/or yoghurt type of sauce but I never saw any turkish style Döner. But many germans don't seem to understand that kebabs are much older & exist in all countries from India over Persia to the Balkans & down to Arabia.
Döner kebabs are actually from Germany though lol
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It is. Invented in Berlin.
@@kermitfrosch6559 But not by Germans.
@@gunwu9084 These people were born in Berlin and have German citizenship 😉 Their parents were migrats from Turkey, yes.
@@kermitfrosch6559 Doubt they had German citizenship when they adapted the Turkish kebab to our market. You guys should respect more other ppl culture and heritage and not claim fame for something, you have nothing to do with. Everybody knows that kebab existed long before.
The Döner was definitive in den late 60s or early 70s in Germany invented.
Some say in Berlin, some say in southern Germany.
Reason was the large Population of turkisch Immigants at the end of the Sixties.
At about the same time, a very similar Food from Greek became also popular.
The Gyros Pita.
Friedensreich Hundertwasser (1928-2000) was an Austrian artist. His buildings are famous for their colourful and organic aesthetics as well as their integration of nature and the environment. His intention and philosophy when constructing his architecturally unusual buildings can be summarised that architecture should be in harmony with nature. His buildings are often surrounded by green spaces and trees, and he integrated living plants into his designs, both inside and out. He regarded nature as an integral part of the human habitat. He was against the uniformity and monotony of modern architecture and believed in the importance of individuality and personality in architecture. His buildings are often irregularly shaped and decorated with bright colours and patterns, giving each building a unique identity. He criticised the sterile and impersonal structures of modern cities and called for an architecture that takes people's needs and well-being into account. His buildings are often asymmetrical and unconventionally designed to create a friendlier and more welcoming environment.Hundertwasser was a pioneer in the field of environmental protection and sustainability in architecture. He advocated the use of natural and recycled materials and favoured the use of renewable energy sources. His buildings are often equipped with grass roofs, rainwater collection systems and other sustainable elements. Overall, it can be said that his intention and philosophy when constructing his buildings was to create a harmonious connection between man, nature and architecture. His works are an expression of his convictions regarding environmental protection, individuality and the pursuit of a more liveable environment for all people.
And - Don´t equal the turkisch dish "Kebab" and the in germany invented fast-food-variety "Döner Kebap"!
20:40 The Brocken railway is the easiest way to get to the summit of the Brocken, where according to legend (and according to Goethe's play "Faust") in the Walpurgis Night (30 April - 1 Mai) the witches celebrate with one another. It is also the coldest and snowiest place in Germany north of the Alps.
20:45 The Bastei bridge, built in the 19th century to facilitate access to the rock formation dominating over river Elbe southeast from Dresden.
21:00 Spreewald (southeast of Berlin) is well known for its pickled gherkins and its many small canals and pittoresc Sorbian villages. See e.g. ruclips.net/video/c2JJh1KSu6U/видео.html
20:43: That is the Bastei Bridge.
my bet... south :) btw. greets from north of north germany. Thanks for your vids
OK, now my two cents to summarize the Döner question. XD The ingredients for Döner have existed in history for a loooong time, of course. But First Kadir Nurman brought them all together in Berlin into the shape and form we all know love to eat today. It's like the Hamburger. It's not like the ingredients are complicated. It's how they were brought together is what created a new invention.
Erfunden wurde er meines Wissens, von Hasir in Kreuzberg, der damals noch ein Imbiss war - war dort als Kind (etwa 1992) oft mit meiner Familie essen.
Heute hat der Besitzer ein türkisches Sterne Restaurant am Hackescher Markt 😉
I'm german and I saw Döner Kebab 1970 in Istanbul. Nobody had heart something about in Germany.
You don’t have to be confused. Wikipedia clearly states that Döner Kebab was first made from a turkish migrant living in germany.
22:08 I don’t wanna spam, but I have a lot to say about east Germany because many people are biased towards it and I wanna clear the air.
I deliberately moved to eastern Germany, I do not regret it and I prefer it over western Germany. Many western Germans (including the younger generation) really look down upon eastern Germans and say derogatory things like „they’re too lazy to work“ (well, the trust company literally destroyed the East German economy after the reunification, so what do they expect), that they’re poor (the gap between east and west has been shrinking tremendously), and that they’re kinda backwards and stupid (erm, the two states with the best PISA-results are in Eastern Germany😂)
I like it here because I feel like every region and city has its own spirit. Berlin is its own planet anyway, then go to Potsdam which literally borders Berlin and it’s a whole different world. Also Erfurt, Leipzig, Dresden, Halle, Rostock,… all differ from each other. And then go to Nordrhein-Westfalen in the west. Once you’ve seen one city, you’ve seen all of them cuz they’re quite the same.
In general, the East German reputation of being „poor“ is so unjustified. Everything is renovated, all the buildings and streets are in a good condition, it’s clean, and because of the lack of industrialisation, there’s actual pristine NATURE there. Go to „wealthy“ western German cities and you see run-down buildings, graffiti and trash everywhere, homeless people,… (same applies for Berlin but that’s a different story)
I don’t wanna bother you with my long text but I wanna make sure that people don’t get the wrong impression
so here is a story about a young lady with the age of 10 who thought the big awesome land is gorgeous and wild and beautiful colored. One day she stood with her family in the trainstation, waiting eight hours to jump on the next train to this wonderful land. Squeezed between hundreds of other ppl wanting the same. She was sad and happy the same time, she wanted her Barbydoll, she wanted the colorful things everyone had in this land. And the Excitement was huge, still as they finally reached the land... but oh boy, how fast turned her face from happy to sad. To misbelief in her eyes, to shame in her mind as a banana did land next to her and a can of coke and wild screams behind her. There was a man standing on a delivery truck throwing those things to the "refugees" to those who wanted to visited their new "home". And since then as she felt more and more not welcomed she wanted back home, wanted all the grey colors back and all the simple things. - just a little experience from my side , now I`m looking back at those moments and I`m sad they my land doesnt exist anymore. Gretings from Leipzig/East-Germany
So the two people you hear in the context of inventing the kebab are Iskender Efendi, who lived in Turkey and Kadir Nurman, who lived in Berlin.
Looks from Wikipedia as if the Turkish Iskender kebap and the German Döner Kebab have the same ingredients but for a Döner Kebab the other ingredients are put inside the flat bread instead of just being served with flat bread.
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3:00 It's beginning to sound like people just made the original Iskender kebap into a bunch of different dishes that shouldn't really share a name but do. Putting it on Pizza? No German would consider that a Döner. To a German, the word means Döner meat (or some alternative) put into flat bread with vegetables, salad and sauces. I guess the name is just about the rotating spit of meat slices.
Döner Kebap "to go" is german.
No, its not. It was just adapted by a clever Turkish businessman to the new market. Still, the cuisine is turkish and not the least "German".
Rumours say that a Turkisch immigrant in Berlin had a Restaurant. He recognized that Germans are always too busy to visit his restaurant and eat his dishes. So he put his dish into a bread and offered "Döner Kebap" to go.
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The doner kebab is actually called doner kebab. The Turkish term translates as “rotating grilled meat”.
The kebab was invented in 1972. Its inventor is called Kadir Nurman. Nurman came to Germany as a guest worker at the end of the 1960s and initially lived in Stuttgart. When Nurman moved to Berlin in 1972, he noticed that many people here lived under time pressure and liked quick food on the go. That's when Nurmann came up with the idea for a kebab: he put meat and onions in a flatbread. This meant his customers could easily eat it out of their hands. The inventor of the kebab was a Turk. However, the popular dish was invented in Germany, more precisely in Berlin.
20:49 is the Bastei-Bridge near Dresden. Its in "Saxony- Swiss- Mountain". Ehen RUclips love old building you must visit the City Quedlinburg, the City of the first King of Germany.
In Berlin in the 1960s a türkish restaurant owner (dont know his name) recognized the People dont have the time because they are always in a hurry for sitting doen aand eat. He grabbed a loaf turkisch bread his meatt and all the Things which belong to a döner. Now he ownsthe largest company for the rotiserie meatfor dönrr in the World.
I think, the confuzing is about what exactly means Döner kebab. A dish called like that on a plate was already invented before and was also brought to Europe and became a fast food style here. But what was invented by this Turk guy in Berlin, was the "to go" version in a sandwich, that we mostly mean by today.
Best Döner, Mannheim !!! We have da red sause !!! In Berlin they serve Ketchup !!! 😂
Oh yes it is real- It's the Bastei bridge in Saxon swizerland south of Dresden near the river Elbe. Love your channel! Well I like my city Dresden very much because of the architecture and the nature around. But I have a soft spot for north-germany too - so no real favorites here ^^. In what region of England do you live, Dwayne? Greetings from Lizz
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20:53 is the Elbsandssteingebirge and yes it is real de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbsandsteingebirge
It's cool that you want to come to Germany. But bro, please don't stay too long in Berlin. If you want to experience something of Germany, Berlin is actually pretty much the worst place in Germany to do so.
you need to see the documentary "Die deutschen" its 10 parts each 1 hour ;D
The döner was invented by a Turkish immigrant in Berlin. That is why it is so popular in Berlin. It was adapted to the German taste with cabbage.
In Turkey it is only served as a dish. The bot is served as a side dish. It's not fast food there.
Greetings from Thuringia, the state with the most castles and palaces. Here, you'll find low mountain ranges and the Thuringian Tuscany. Weimar/Thuringia is the most German city; perhaps you'll discover why.
As we stayed in Liverpool, we ate an „hanging kebab“ so I understand the British claim. But Döner Kebab is something different
Take a look on Saxon Switzerland! 🙂👍 If you are a fan of nature and hiking you are absolute correct there! 😊
Döner ... oh... I eat them since 1995 in Germans east... incredible good here, because they are using the original oriental "Fladenbrot".❤ In other countries and also often west Germany is used an ordinary bun and is sooo dry with it... 🤪
the döner kebab has indeed been invented by a turk in germany. beforehand (and still) there are multiple turkish (regional) specialities for kebaps - adana and iskender, just to name a few. the idea of slicing minced meat and put it on a bread with vegetables dates back to the ottoman empire.
if leniant, you could even count greek gyros into that style. Whatever - it just tastes great, in any form ;)
I live in Magdeburg and don't like the Hundertwasserhaus either. But the "Magdeburger Dom" is awesome and he City has a lot of History. (~1220 vears old) :)
Döner Kebab: Invented in it's actual Form in Berlin Decades ago.
It doesn't matter where the kebab comes from. Whether in England or Sweden or Germany. It was invented by Turkish immigrants and is one of the most delicious dishes that I simply love. Although I come from Schleswig-Holstein, I love the East Germans, especially the Saxons and their funny and great dialect.
You should definitely make a reaction video about the video "that is Germany." There you can see Germany summarized from above.
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Yes, it sounds funny and that's the problem. 😂 Years ago I fell in love with a guy from Hamburg primarily because of his lovable dialect. Cannot imagine the same with a man from Saxony, I'm so sorry, Dear people from Saxony!!! 😂
I love you nevertheless. ❤
@@Winona493 Man kann es halt nicht jedem recht machen.😜
You are correct about doner kebabs being available in the UK before 1972. The immigrant Turks may have popularised them in Germany but other countries had them before that. I was eating them in a Greek takeaway restaurant in central Birmingham before the 1970s. And we spell it 'doner kebab' not 'döner kebap'. Sorry Germany!
Ich vermisse RÜGEN! I miss Rügen Island.... !
In germany we call it "Döner" and it was invented in 1972 in W-Berlin.
I am from Dresden. It's a beautiful City ❤
Fun fact: If the room or flat is untidy, many Germans say it "looks like Dresden '45" because after the Second World War, Dresden was almost a pile of rubble and ashes. Every region of Germany has it's beauty spots. My area (northwest) might be boring for British people because it is very similar (weather, landscape etc.)