Your Next Adventure Motorcycle? 2023 Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE Impressions & Walkaround
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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Suzuki has just unveiled their new 800 platform which includes the Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE. Packed with a lot more electronics than you are used to from Suzuki, will this be your next value adventure motorcycle?
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So good to see you and Bogdanel working together a bit, have been a fan of both channels for some time!
As an existing VStrom 650 rider, I'll wait for the non DE model as I don't want a 21" front wheel on a touring road bike.
I don’t think this is meant to be a touring road bike Neil
@@vebez5993 my point exactly. I use my VStrom to tour... on the road, as the kinds of gravel and dirt roads this bike is designed for pretty much don't exist in the UK. I'll wait and see if a 19" cast wheel alternative is launched next year.
@@neilmackinnon3371 oh okay it seemed like you were calling this a touring bike
19” front and tubeless tires!
I like you two working together. Two of the best! The DE is great looking and just the right size.
20L tank makes this interesting vs the competition
Wish suzuki would bring the v strom 250 to the U.S
I like the looks of this bike. Ok, it has a muffler only a mother could love, but easy fixes abound. I hope Suzuki supplies a nice cruise control and also a steering damper - and of course the quick shifter. Optional windshields and seats would be nice too. Another option would be tubeless tires and spoked rims (lightweight). And speaking of lightweight, how about take a clue from the top bicycle manufacturers who offer the same basic bike with two or three different frame materials (steel, aluminum, carbon fiber). Of course the price jumps for a bike that weights 40-50 lbs less than the base model, but personally, I would pay a few $k extra for the lightest bike. I'm 73, so I want my 'last bike' to be righteous.
Good thoughts! Motorcycle manufacturers can certainly borrow a thing or two from the bicycle industry. However I’m afraid providing same bike with different frame materials would make the price forbidding for everyone. Like if you look at the price of carbon bikes, they can easily cost as a motorcycle that has thousands of extra parts. So I’m afraid motorcycle frame size and material choice is not coming anytime soon.
I thought, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but, doesn't "V-Strom" sort of suggest a "V" twin motor?
Shouldn't the new range be named "P-Strom"? (for parallel twin?)
they have a ton of vstrom stickers in the Hamamatsu warehouse
The V Strom has become a well known brand, so they want to capitalize on that. It's like Porche, at first everyone hated front engine porches but eventually people got over it
V stands for versatile.
I like it.
Reminds me of my old DR800s.
Does it come in yellow ?
Definitely
It's time to change Dave for a real person. You are great together! Leave the facts for Bogdanel and you could be the funny guy! You should consider at least more content together maybe some tests together. I would like to see a Translap and V Strom test with both of you guys!
This new 800 DE and the Transalp kind of beg the question what the 1050 and Africa Twin are for. It seems like both of these new bikes will crowd their bigger brothers? Small ~20ish Horsepower difference and comparable suspension specs. I suppose the 1050 and AT have a little bit nicer electronic packages but is it worth it for the (I'm guessing) much larger price?
I'm super excited to pick up the 800DE or 1050DE once it arrives though!
I imagine in a year or two Suzuki with throw the K5 engine from the GSX S1000 into the v strom 1050 frame. They will just gear it for massive low end torque and still have 125 ish HP at the real wheel.
This would mean that mean suzuki reduces the number of engines they are building and the engine that is in there is good for emissions rating for a few years. Plus it's been proven reliable and sporty performer. It only makes great sense even if it is driven by Euro5 and 6 standards.
@@kingdan7458 that's a thought for sure! Would be super interesting. I'd imaging running an inline 4 in the Vstrom would firmly plant it in the road side of ADV land.
Can't wait to see some riders impressions of the new Suzuki 800 engine. Glad Suzuki is alive and kicking still
Where getting your motorcycle news is easier than putting a 270° crank in a parallel twin, but not by much.
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In the 90s they were making HUGE 1000cc 4-cylinder monsters that weighed f-all more than this. ZX9 was 242kgs wet and made 140hp. This is a tiny 800cc 2 cylinder bike and it only weighs about 10kg less and makes nearly 60hp less. What the 'F' happened to motorcycling???
The European Union, that's what happened... Euro5 B/S, and ABS and other shite I can live without!
There are some amazing motorcycles on the market that put 90’s bikes to shame. But they cost a fortune.
F800gs 214kg f850gs 229kg thanks Euro 5
@@chrishart8548 Yep, not impressed with this new rubbish. In 20 years Suzuki managed to make their VStrom go from 236kg to 230kg and drop their HP from 98hp -84hp and torque from 75ft/lbs - 54ft/lbs. Way to go Suzuki! Clap Clap for the handicapped!
@@paintup46 Agree and disagree. I agree they cost a fortune. I disagree there are amazing bikes around. Lots of things with great styling, but you can't buy anything new that isn't laden with electronic interference. I've ridden 3 modern bikes and they were all shite - mostly because of the RBW. I doubt there are any new bikes out that wouldn't get eaten by a 90s bike on a windy road.
This bike doesn’t come to market for another few months. All the negativity about cruise control might prompt Suzuki to update the electronic package to include it. But I’ve never understood why cruise is so important. My hand doesn’t leave the throttle when I’m riding so what makes the cruise control so special? On my Vstrom 1000 the throttle is so light I just rest my palm on the grip and it stays perfectly at that speed.
That's a valid question and there's a simple answer. I can live without a cruise control when commuting. But I wouldn't consider buying a newish adventure bike that does not have a cruise control or an option for one. Traveling 1000 km (or miles) a day on a straight road is never fun, but that's one part of the job for a real adventure bike for me. We have really nice roads and a lot to explore in Finland, but still part of the fun is to travel to central or southern Europe occasionally (googling 'Via Baltica' will make you see my problem:). And to keep myself awake and in good spirit in those travels, I need to change my riding position a lot, move my legs and arms whenever the road is empty. If I'm able to release the throttle for a few seconds to do that, then great. Without a cruise control, my right hand and shoulder is usually sore for several days after long trips, no matter how much I change my grip.
Considering the competition, there's already a good range of mid size adventure bikes that have a cruise at least as an option. For example Tuareg 660, DesertX, Tiger 800/900, Adventure (R) 790/890, Norden 901... Maybe Suzuki does not expect to sell too many of these to cover the development cost for fancy electronics, we will see.
I used it in total maybe six times on both my 2019 GS HP(rallyé) and in my 2020 Road King Special… Have no need for it at all. When I get bored I stop take pics and move on😂😂
@@ttahola I find it strange that your throttle hand and shoulder get sore after riding longer distances. I personally have long arms and every motorcycle I’ve ever owned needed adjustment to the bar height and back/forward in order to get it comfortable. But I’ve always managed to get that sweet spot with a few tweaks and adjustments. If anything I get sore lats from presumably pushing against the wind for hours on end.
@@jaywhoisit4863 Yeah, usually I don't have any major issues. Only when riding long distance legs with fixed schedule, like 1000 km a day for several days in a row. Or even a 1000 miles in 24 hours (the basic iron butt ride), especially in cold weather. Or even shorter distances on a smaller bike that don't have that much room for rider and smaller engines tend to have more vibration on the handlebar as well. I'm still learning to ride, so it could be lack of experience. But while I'm learning, I'd like to fix whatever I can, including adding a cruise control. Replacing my naked bike with a custom/cruiser would probably take some pressure from my throttle hand and wrist, but then I doubt my back would hold together on longer travels. And taking a custom bike to trackdays is probably not something I would enjoy. You'd really need like 5 different bikes for different rides... So far an adventure bike feels like the best compromise for any posture issues, but right now I only have a smaller naked bike (MT-07). It's sure better than nothing. Adding more days to a week would also help, I'm usually in some sort of a hurry back home from my travels so I just want to ride as far as I can before turning back.
@@ttahola 5 different bikes would be my dream!! 😂. But you’re correct, if you’ve only got one choice, get an adventure bike. They are super adjustable and customizable to every personal preference. And the upright seating with longer suspension sure make long journeys easier. It’s always nice to know you can turn off the pavement and attack the backroads whenever the adventure spirit hits you.
Maybe Suzuki will offer a larger touring screen? It’s not as flash as the TransAlp appearance wise but from an off-road use that’s fine. 20 litre tank is useful. Shame it doesn’t have cruise control.
Cruise control will be available through McCruise as that bike will be sold in Australia (Transalp??), looks great with the small screen (something I hate,big ugly screen...more weight).
It mentions cruise control on their website under specifications.
Controller Area Network (CAN bus)
Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness.
Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.
I like the Suzuki, only down side is the 230 kilos...but that's fine if you use mostly on tarmac I guess?
Hi, thanks for the great introduction of the 800DE! It seems to be taking all the attention as can’t find much info on the new 1050DE. Would be great and highly appreciative if you could please also look at the new 1050 and provide your thoughts and opinion. Many thanks!
Great to see this collaboration , love both your channels. From 🇿🇦
Vrydag is braaidag!
I don’t like the windshield, headlight and weight but Love the Rest
If they made this as a touring road bike it would be something I'd seriously consider.
Yeah yes called the vstrom 1000
“Something from the kitchen.” Love it!!!!! 😂
I like it. Hope it have cruise control..
Haha you guys are great together. You should team up every now n then ☺ great bike by the way. Love it
Great to see more videos from you!
Come on, stacked headlights are the best part! Would you rather they had the asymmetrical headlights lay out that everyone hates?
I have totally rejected the Suzuki GSX-S1000GT, the Yamaha MT10, Tracer 9GT, and the BMW S1000XR for that very reason. So you are wrong about the headlights, this is an excellent headlight setup.
I always point out one of the lights aren't working on every bike with asymmetrical headlights. Drives the owners insane!
As usual a nice and very useful review - too bad you don’t know what the bike will cost. Seems to me it’s been a while since you all have put anything out on this channel. Anyway, glad I put the in time to watch it!
£8400 was mentioned yesterday... given the Honda Hornet price, the Transalp shouldn't be much more than that, so it should keep the V-Strom competitive( I prefer to the Transalp...I'll soon get the fat girl on a diet)!
I click for the thumbnail but stayed for the content
two excellent guys. join up.
I have a small aftermarket windshield on my CB500F, and am amazed at how much it breaks the wind. Taking the blast off my chest means that I can sit upright at 100 kmh instead of needing to lean into the wind.
I thought for a moment you'd brought Dave along to the show.
Nice..it looks good from my cellphone💪👌❤
There is an option for a larger windscreen.
2 thing i don't like...Cyclop light and the rear is like a race bike with a rear fender added..the rest of the bike was Dialed in when they taught about it...thats what its particular Awesome ...its really gonna sell more than the 1050 wich im in love with
Companies still don't get the memo. WE want a light machine, with technology where it matters (abs, suspension, screen and performance), 21 inch front, 60-75 hp, good fuel capacity, good offroad capabilities, and lightweight. The cruice control doesn't matter, the ride by wire, the decals won't matter, the robotic headlight, none of that garbage that just bump up the price. The T7 ticks almost all of those things and it's the best of the bunch even with their production problems. Imagine, to name one, a KLR with the versys machine tuned up for adventure? Killer seller.
Nailed it....
Get your country to vote to leave the EU...enough leave, the project collapses, this B/S comes to an end...exhaust on that V-Strom probably weighs about 20kg? Simple
screen? I want what Honda put together, 750cc with healthy 92 hp, i hope much lower centre of gravity than the Tenere but in Tenere clothing
I think cruise is essential on an adv bike in 2023. Cost's nothing to make and these bike's are supposed be able to munch miles. Otherwise it'd just be a dual sport.
Spot on chief… and a proper seat(Yamaha) keep it basic but cheap £8K and people will buy!
I thought Dave had found his voice😂
This is not Dave :))
Anyone know how easy or hard it is to access the airbox? Have they redesigned it? hopefully dont still have to take off the tank??? thanx!
I see some Katana in there, every person that wants the T7 and can't buy one will buy this.
I think you may have missed the fact that it no longer uses the legendary v twin. Is it a new engine? Apologies if i missed this...got covid and just suffer mind drfift right now!! The screen is weird for sure...surely there'll be options for touring (or anyone who hates cold and rain!).
For the weight why not get a 2021 1050 with a real V twin. I change my front fork seals every year on mine.
It's no big deal. I like the Tuareg... But would buy the Transalp for reliability.
What makes you think that the Transalp, a brand new platform on a brand new engine will be more reliable than the Tuareg, which has been around for 18 months and the 660 engine has been around for much longer? The Africa Twin is a 7 years old project and still has a healthy list of issues - Hondas are not as perfect as people think
@@sspirito3130 people are still moaning about the bmw f800gs. How many people have done round world trips on them now and the engine has been around since 2006. Yet apparently it will break down at any moment
A real V-twin? Personally I hate that engine. Airbox under the tank is superbad design. Checking valve clearance or changing spark plugs is a pain in the ass. The sooner they discontinue this horrible platform the better. Servicing an adventure bike should be easy. Especially if it’s an airfilter. A thing you will need to clean every other day when riding in dusty conditions. If it requires more tools than a 8mm T-handle to do it, it’s an outright engineering blunder.
You are right the filter is a b1tch . I change it.. over the winter . In 107,000Km the valves never. Everyone who checked theirs said it did not need to be adjusted
They should have gone with Spoked Tubeless like in 650 XT
Those wheels are heavy. Also, if you damage the rim on tubeless you are stranded. I believe in the future they will make a version with cast wheels. The DE is just more offroad oriented and is apparently not what you are looking for. And that’s fine.
@@nestserauthe question is - how many will take it off road and for how long?
@@richardhretczak536 That’s another story. If someone wants to buy a Jeep Wrangler and never leave sealed roads, then more power to them. But smart is it not.
haw tall are you guys?
No connection with mobile phone?!?
Hi you guys are 😁
Didn't BMW have the same thing 10 years ago??? F880gs and f800gs adventure?
Great video! But why Bogdan? Where is Dave? ;)
Roman?!? Who’s that? Dave is not allowed out of the country.
@@LongWayHome I meant Bogdan of course ;)
Dave if You are in danger blink twice in comment!
;P
@@PaweNasiadka 😉😉😉
Tube-type tires are a deal breaker for me.
And I would still have the triumph tiger 900 rally over this.
Not in the same class, or price range.
It’s always good to have choices.
And perhaps reliability…
Suzuki Cruise control please and it will be my next bike.
another parallel twin
Disappointingly no cruise control and terrible screen. Rules it out.
No cruise on transalp either.
Get a grip...go spunk €16k at a Ducati or you could pay HALF of that,buy a Suzuki and give McCruise a few hundred Aussie Dollars for C/C. Learned one thing about being in the motorcycle industry, it's got more than it's fair share of wingeing tools!
It does mention cruise on their website under specifications.
Controller Area Network (CAN bus)
Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness.
Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.
@@williamrae9954 Maybe I should have added that for me it won't work. My 73 year old wrist need cruise control these days so if it does come with it as others suggested, then it is a bike I can look at.
@@philc9305 That's more an issue than the Suzuki... McCruise are Australian, they'll definitely make C/C for a bike, if Suzuki doesn't... will the Transalp(usually a European bike) be sold Down Under? Wait and see!
Oh hell no!
Suzuki is really dropping the ball on designs last few years.
I looked up the costs. Suzuki and Kawasaki are over $16,000! Honda, Benelli and Yamaha are around $10,000! Game is already lost!
I don't know how Suzuki did it, but some way, some how, they managed to cut 2 cylinders off the 2005 GSXR1000 motor to make this! After all, isn't it canon at Suzuki that everything "new" has to have that engine in it? 😊 Seriously though, I am pleasantly surprised that Suzuki is finally coming up with totally new motorcycles after a very, very long time.
kawa still updating stickers lol.
Do you have references that this engine shares anything with the K5 1000 engine? As good as it is/was, I don't see that they share any parts or even basic design
@@danielm6507 🤣🤣I almost thought that you thought I was serious.
@@brianq103 then why spread misinformation 😡
Is deceit all of a sudden in everyone's DNA?
@@maldridge7630 If you thought I was serious after putting a smiley face and then saying "seriously though", I apologize for not making the joke more obvious. I was merely poking fun at the fact that most of Suzuki's recent models have had a version of the K5 engine in them. Maybe it isn't deceit that has become part of people's DNA, but an automatic assumption of such, which saddens me. Let's focus on the fact that motorcycles are awesome, no matter how they come to be.
Around $11000 dollars!
Not a lot of exciting ADV bikes in EICMA this year!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 You two put a great show ‼‼🤣🤣👍👍
The bike you've gathered arround is a P.O.S, but your both artistic performance = 🏆🏆🥇🥇
A bike with a waterpump engine in your profile, and you call probably the World's most reliable manufacturer (World Endurance Titles) a "POS" ...go stick you head in the microwave, 4 minutes,and press start...there's a cure for idiots!
It should be called the P-strom...
And a 250cc...4 x V-Stroms
It has a parallel twin, why is it not called a P-Strom.
Think I’ll stick to the T700 , good job Suzuki , but in reality you had a great bike to copy from.
Suzuki designers somehow manage to outdo themselves and make the Vstrom uglier and uglier in each new version.
Too heavy .. again ..
give us a lighter machine
Wtf
It could always be worse, it could be two guys on a Tandem Bicycle...
Or two guys on a unicycle.
How is this a v-strom its not a v
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I don't know but to me Suzuki seem to have managed to produce yet another plastic bomber with a beak. Boooring!
It's 507 pounds! 🐷
so many bloated bikes...
Another heavy motorcycle 🤮🤮🤮
Honda got it right making Transalp
This guest of yours...
Some people can't just be guests, the have to be the center of attention.
Sorry, reminds me of the one who died....
My friend, Cristian.
Here's a tip, don't refer to people as 'the one who died'
@@LongWayHome Follow him too...my condolences, tragic
Just way too much junk to fail and get in the way, absolutely not necessary. Suzuki fan but a BIG NO Suzuki. Tuareg, T7, AJP...all way better.
oh Suzuki ... it looks horrible - AGAIN ...
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