What I don't like about Moncler is that they produce clothings using extremely delicate fabrics, and then putting a high-end price on it. Like the clothing they sell is meant for runway/fashionshows almost. They like don't even recommend you wearing their jackets in poor weather. Most of SIs garments are highly functional. Of course some pieces are delicate, but for the most part you can wear SI items and not worry if some rain is gonna fall down
There is no way that rivetti will let the stone island heritage die.. Its a business decision so he can sit back and drink some wine etc, etc.. He worked all his life to bring the brand up.. He will definitely still have a major say.. I feel moncler will be the one who benefits most from it..stone island material technology will give them a great excuse charge even more for a jacket :)
Probably my 2 favourite brands but both serve different purposes in the food chain. As long Stone island operate as normal I couldn’t care less. If the designs become more lazy and prices surge there’s a problem
Thanks for your comments. It’s nice to hear someone calm about the move, as there’s been a lot of panicking for sure. I think any changes will be gradual as u say, but if Carlo retires and there’s a new moncler-chosen creative director, then that’s the time to hold your breath and hope stone island don’t take a wrong turn. But since 1982 I think stone have managed to stay popular and healthy and haven’t made any serious mistakes as far as creative output is concerned. I think moncler understands why stone is so successful from there affordable price point and design ethos, so why would they stitch themselves up and end all that? Why try to fix something that isn’t broken? Thanks again for your views and cool jackets, and I’ve just clicked your subscribe button too! Aimee😎
Think as u said will much stay the same just be a little extra added to the price hikes so like instead of going from 190 to 210 for next years T’s it will be 190 to 230 or something along those lines And may be ladies wear added to the seasons as a change of direction Possible colab between both brands to mark the occasion x
The mrs is happy and I think moncler have used like reflective material ect so could be a nice range from a colab Could show of the both brands power when it comes to innovation 💪🏼 Btw the poly is a must for the collection 😎
Monclergroup.com have a PowerPoint you can read. "Moncler and Stone Island are highly complementary in terms of price point positioning, covering different segments of the luxury pyramid without risk of cannibalisation" this was on the PowerPoint so my guess is that prices will stay the same. They also have a strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats section. Under threats they have "mono gender" would be mad to get a women's line.
I think it won’t be a bad thing if both brands still stay in their own lanes, no different badges/logos just occasionally try using each others materials and ideas. I just don’t want to see the beauty that osti created get ruined by hype beasts and extortionate prices. That’s all I’m worried about. Carlo loved everything he did and wanted us to aswell, and I don’t think moncler have that same passion and love for their pieces. But time will tell could be a good move who knows, I’m not gonna cancel it before it’s started
Stone island was just so unique and did it's own thing; showing us buyers luxery brands at affordable prices instead of something 400-500 quid more expensive for the same quality in Moncler. I just prefer Stone island and now I feel its lost its identity a bit. That being said, I'm interested to see with what they come up with, but I'd rather this didn't happen. I'm certain the majority would agree with me
its been losing identity the past 5-6 years imo. colabs with supreme and rich kids being the new target audience. quality´s bin going down and prices up for years now.
@@davidcirovic8620 Yeah that's also true but at least those pieces still were predominantly stone island, but with moncler its different, idk I just don't like the sound of it, but it could surprise us all. My biggest worry is that they'll try put a ban on reselling below RRP :/
For an example LV have owned Givenchy and Fendi for years and none of their brands have changed so it stands to reason SI and Moncler will operate as stand alone businesses also. This madness is just fuelled by the uneducated. It’s all calm. Great content tho dude. 👍🏻
Stone islands quality has slowly been going downhill last 10 years it is now just a streetwear brand and the prices have been rising year on year. A lot of SI loyal customers will ditch the brand if too many changes are made. I bet the owners at cp are pissing themselves The brand I think will suffer in the long run as Rivettu was very patio ate and hands on with all aspects of the brand.
My god that coat around 2:35 is awful, its just a different taste I guess... I'd much rather go for a Moncler Montbeliard in all black or a Moncler Armoricano in black with the fur which is just like you said.. MAD fucking nice!
In fact only the most expensive garments of SI are being produced in Italy (Special project jackets, corduroy shirts, some sweatshirts,...). The rest of the collection is being produced in Asia and Rumania.
Why are you so sure there will be no Stone Island x Moncler releases? That's a bit of a premature assumption for you to make in my opinion seeing as both have done collabs with brands beneath them both so to do a collaboration between them wouldn't be a bad thing.
Mat's Island strangely enough so would I being a long time fan since 1993 of both brands. Stone Island was becoming too hard to find any pieces for me as the years have gone on that again for me were even worth buying. Last Stone Island coat I purchased was 2 years back and it was the black featherweight leather down which for me personally is the last piece I could find even worth buying upon release and I've purchased many pieces over the years what are seen as key pieces today upon release when stuff was really popping up until 2013/14 after which is when it was a total wrap in my eyes for S.I! So hopefully this move will bring a fresh lease of life into Stone Island on a positive note!
Moncler overpaid. They will have to expand the line to women. They will have to expand to America. I live in NYC. All Chinese people wear Moncler and Canada Goose. I like that very few people here know about football culture and Stone Island. Stone Island is Dead, Aquascutum is Dead time to move to C.P.
Oh they definitely overpaid. This jus means they will try to milk Stone Island and that probably means RIP for the brand. Ever since Massimo Osti dies, things went downhill understandably.
I believe and this is just my opinion that stone island is looked at as a brand for the people it’s part of a culture. Moncler is not that brand it more fits in with the Gucci and louis Vuitton of the world overpriced and hyped beast shit . Not to say I don’t fuck with those other brands but it’s definitely going to change the way stone island as brand market it’s self .
Just makes you look even more like you sell cocaine bro the reason I don’t fuck with anything other than stone island I know Some people couple compare stone island to cocaine dealers also but I’d disagree strongly just not happy with this if it was a collab for every now n then but not feeling this movement at al bro #flavour
This is going to ruin stone island monclair are shit and not worth the money at all quality had drop massively over the last 18months stone island is gonna be shit now
What I don't like about Moncler is that they produce clothings using extremely delicate fabrics, and then putting a high-end price on it. Like the clothing they sell is meant for runway/fashionshows almost. They like don't even recommend you wearing their jackets in poor weather.
Most of SIs garments are highly functional. Of course some pieces are delicate, but for the most part you can wear SI items and not worry if some rain is gonna fall down
Facts
There is no way that rivetti will let the stone island heritage die.. Its a business decision so he can sit back and drink some wine etc, etc.. He worked all his life to bring the brand up.. He will definitely still have a major say.. I feel moncler will be the one who benefits most from it..stone island material technology will give them a great excuse charge even more for a jacket :)
Probably my 2 favourite brands but both serve different purposes in the food chain. As long Stone island operate as normal I couldn’t care less. If the designs become more lazy and prices surge there’s a problem
Thanks for your comments. It’s nice to hear someone calm about the move, as there’s been a lot of panicking for sure. I think any changes will be gradual as u say, but if Carlo retires and there’s a new moncler-chosen creative director, then that’s the time to hold your breath and hope stone island don’t take a wrong turn. But since 1982 I think stone have managed to stay popular and healthy and haven’t made any serious mistakes as far as creative output is concerned. I think moncler understands why stone is so successful from there affordable price point and design ethos, so why would they stitch themselves up and end all that? Why try to fix something that isn’t broken? Thanks again for your views and cool jackets, and I’ve just clicked your subscribe button too! Aimee😎
Some wise words words right there!
Stone island quality has been getting worse for years and prices are going up .
People need to understand nothing Will change , it’s like VW owning Bentley , they just now own the brand
Not true
What's all this 'Bare' shit?
Think as u said will much stay the same just be a little extra added to the price hikes so like instead of going from 190 to 210 for next years T’s it will be 190 to 230 or something along those lines
And may be ladies wear added to the seasons as a change of direction
Possible colab between both brands to mark the occasion x
Ladies wear would be amazing, would love to see it. & a moncler x SI collab? Bring it on
The mrs is happy
and I think moncler have used like reflective material ect so could be a nice range from a colab
Could show of the both brands power when it comes to innovation 💪🏼
Btw the poly is a must for the collection 😎
@@scottcrawford2445 moncler aint innovating shit man, their garments are straight highway robbery
Lasht naiwl in the coffin. LOL!
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Monclergroup.com have a PowerPoint you can read. "Moncler and Stone Island are highly complementary in terms of price point positioning, covering different segments of the luxury pyramid without risk of cannibalisation" this was on the PowerPoint so my guess is that prices will stay the same. They also have a strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats section. Under threats they have "mono gender" would be mad to get a women's line.
Women’s line would be SICK
I think it won’t be a bad thing if both brands still stay in their own lanes, no different badges/logos just occasionally try using each others materials and ideas. I just don’t want to see the beauty that osti created get ruined by hype beasts and extortionate prices. That’s all I’m worried about. Carlo loved everything he did and wanted us to aswell, and I don’t think moncler have that same passion and love for their pieces. But time will tell could be a good move who knows, I’m not gonna cancel it before it’s started
Stone island was just so unique and did it's own thing; showing us buyers luxery brands at affordable prices instead of something 400-500 quid more expensive for the same quality in Moncler. I just prefer Stone island and now I feel its lost its identity a bit. That being said, I'm interested to see with what they come up with, but I'd rather this didn't happen. I'm certain the majority would agree with me
its been losing identity the past 5-6 years imo. colabs with supreme and rich kids being the new target audience. quality´s bin going down and prices up for years now.
@@davidcirovic8620 Yeah that's also true but at least those pieces still were predominantly stone island, but with moncler its different, idk I just don't like the sound of it, but it could surprise us all. My biggest worry is that they'll try put a ban on reselling below RRP :/
Matt do you think the old school pieces will go up in value? Might put the prices up for existing pieces
For sure man. The older pieces are constantly going up in value. This won’t change that, it might even accelerate it
The price is going up and the qualities going down. That is what's happening? It's not good, but that's just the way things are.
When will be a drop of these pieces?
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I visit family there every year, my favourite country ✌🏻
@@matsisland6992 that’s lovely
Yo man I was just curious why Suomi 🇫🇮 !?? I lived there in the early 80s.
I lived in Tampere 🇫🇮
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On my list of places to visit 👌🏾😎
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For an example LV have owned Givenchy and Fendi for years and none of their brands have changed so it stands to reason SI and Moncler will operate as stand alone businesses also. This madness is just fuelled by the uneducated. It’s all calm. Great content tho dude. 👍🏻
Yeah exactly mate 👏🏻
So now it's going to the super rich,well that's it for me,no more buying I'm not giving moncler my cash no fkn way
Stone islands quality has slowly been going downhill last 10 years it is now just a streetwear brand and the prices have been rising year on year. A lot of SI loyal customers will ditch the brand if too many changes are made. I bet the owners at cp are pissing themselves
The brand I think will suffer in the long run as Rivettu was very patio ate and hands on with all aspects of the brand.
Moncler could end up destroying SI if they get too corporate or fire off SIs designers!!! 😱
Folks are Complaining that quality might go down
im scared it will turn audiance i want it to be that football culture thing not that rich guy old geezer brand
Original stone island will always be a part if football heritage. However who knows what future holds. Hopefully remember what made it so big.
My god that coat around 2:35 is awful, its just a different taste I guess... I'd much rather go for a Moncler Montbeliard in all black or a Moncler Armoricano in black with the fur which is just like you said.. MAD fucking nice!
Moncler is an Italian brand that manufactures most of its products in the Far East, I’d be disappointed if SI stopped producing in Italy
In fact only the most expensive garments of SI are being produced in Italy (Special project jackets, corduroy shirts, some sweatshirts,...). The rest of the collection is being produced in Asia and Rumania.
@@marcmartin1729 yes, I’m well aware. I imagine the margins on shitty made in Rumania t shirts and sweatshirts are what makes the brand so profitable
@Original T was french, so is Italian
Youre Not aware of anything... si pieces in romania and asia use Same garment and machines as in italy hahaha it has the same quality...
@Original T still made in France though
Why are you so sure there will be no Stone Island x Moncler releases? That's a bit of a premature assumption for you to make in my opinion seeing as both have done collabs with brands beneath them both so to do a collaboration between them wouldn't be a bad thing.
Just me making assumptions. I’d love to see it though!
Mat's Island strangely enough so would I being a long time fan since 1993 of both brands. Stone Island was becoming too hard to find any pieces for me as the years have gone on that again for me were even worth buying. Last Stone Island coat I purchased was 2 years back and it was the black featherweight leather down which for me personally is the last piece I could find even worth buying upon release and I've purchased many pieces over the years what are seen as key pieces today upon release when stuff was really popping up until 2013/14 after which is when it was a total wrap in my eyes for S.I! So hopefully this move will bring a fresh lease of life into Stone Island on a positive note!
@@ericmcdowell9745 that featherweight down is amazing. I hope you got it on sale 😅😅
Nothing will change they will leave stoney to do what they do. If it aint broke dont fix it
Moncler overpaid. They will have to expand the line to women. They will have to expand to America. I live in NYC. All Chinese people wear Moncler and Canada Goose. I like that very few people here know about football culture and Stone Island. Stone Island is Dead, Aquascutum is Dead time to move to C.P.
What makes you think they overpaid? 😅
@@matsisland6992 Reports from financial advisors. They overpaid by about 60% of company values.
@@matsisland6992 moncler needs patients for garment dyeing to incorporate into their line.
They didn't overpay, they just took advantage of extremely cheap credit.
Oh they definitely overpaid. This jus means they will try to milk Stone Island and that probably means RIP for the brand. Ever since Massimo Osti dies, things went downhill understandably.
I believe and this is just my opinion that stone island is looked at as a brand for the people it’s part of a culture. Moncler is not that brand it more fits in with the Gucci and louis Vuitton of the world overpriced and hyped beast shit . Not to say I don’t fuck with those other brands but it’s definitely going to change the way stone island as brand market it’s self .
Cute 🐶
I really don't like this, it isn't good for Stone Island fans usually when company's buy out another brand the quality drops and it isn't the same.
R.I.P Massimo Osti's true SI vision, the brand will never be the same ever again and now it look's tacky, that's why the chav brigade are wearing it.
moncler is nothing to do with football culture
Just makes you look even more like you sell cocaine bro the reason I don’t fuck with anything other than stone island I know Some people couple compare stone island to cocaine dealers also but I’d disagree strongly just not happy with this if it was a collab for every now n then but not feeling this movement at al bro #flavour
Couldn’t even tell you how much Cesar Azpilicueta is worth
This is going to ruin stone island monclair are shit and not worth the money at all quality had drop massively over the last 18months stone island is gonna be shit now