Comparing VHS to 4K Video Picture Quality
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Using a repeated sequence of shots, we compare the image quality of todays 4K Ultra HD video to the formats of the past - from VHS to Super VHS to Video CD, and then standard definition DVD, HD Bluray DVD and finally 4K UHD video. This is best viewed in 4K mode on RUclips so that you can see the differences in quality as we go from format to format with home video technology that spans the last 30 years.
Music is from Audionautix with their track "5 Cents Back" from the RUclips Audio Library.
I saw the DVD, and I was like wow that's nice and clear, then I saw the blue ray, and I'm like "holy crap there were people on that bridge the whole time!"
VHS format is still usable, but only for ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ purposes in 2019.
Yes, now that I'm used to 1080 (and even 2160) line resolution, I wouldn't want to go back to 270 lines ever again.
In the late 90s Is Born the DVHS, the High Definitivo VHS, but for costs, space and lack of HD TVs, DVDs replaced VHS.
@@F1Fans5 Thanks to modern codecs fitting 4K digital video onto a VHS tape theoreticaly will not be a problem.
DVDs are still the best physical format for SDTVs. But as we all know, there are no SDTVs in the market today and no one would want to buy them over 4K TVs.
@@lemons2300 resolution is is least important factor in what makes a pleasing, compelling image the human eye. Contrast and motion are far more important. None of which are even close on modern LCD LED monitors.
What blows my mind is how long they had vhs. It was introduced in the 70's and was popular all throughout the 80's, 90's and didnt completely phase out until the very end of the 2000's, in 2005 VCRs and box tvs were still very much a thing... And i really dont know why bc video games and stereos had moved WAY beyond that technology at that point..Looking back at Playstation technology from 96 or 97 which utilized CD technology put into video games which was platformed off 80's CD technology... How in the hell were DVDs not a thing by 1995 or so??
Part of the reason is that the replacement technology was exorbitantly expensive at the time. I remember CD's coming out in about 1984/5 here in Australia but I never got my first CD sound system until 1990 for this reason. Many other people I knew did the same thing. In the end, if the upgrade is too expensive the 'masses' can't buy it so the older technology lives on for perhaps longer than it really should.
They did have video CDs in the early 90s but they were horrid quality. Laserdisc was better than VHS but expensive. The price point was what made it last so long.
I’m not sure. DVDs were invented in 1996 but they were distributed in 1997. Maybe because people had been using them so long they didn’t want to change.
well VCDs were a thing, imagine dvd but instead of a 4.7 or 8.4Gb of data you only have ~750mb
it had about the same black and white detail as a VHS but better colour (it being ~354 horizontal of brightness signal and ~80 of colour) however the main problem was that it had heavy digital compression artefacts so in the end VHS looked better and Waaaay better sound
I do not recall in 2005 VCR's being very much a thing...but OK
I didn't even see the footbridge between the rocks until the blu ray version
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@@charlie4christ536 the hell is this
thanks god for 4k
you should have added a side by side comparison between VHS and 4k.
I might do that in a future video.
Most of this shit is just all in your head there's hardly a difference
@@brandonhansen2882 How can it be in your head? Did you even try comparing it yourself?
@@mdo7 Brandon is seeking attention or needs to visit an optometrist.
4K LED/OLED worsens image quality of 1080i cable channels and even FHD content such as Bluray and Netflix, requiring it to be upscaled to 4K to fit the native resolution of its fixed pixel display. Although it isn't nearly as bad as upscaling DVD quality on FHD or 4K LED/OLED TVs.
Verdict is, if you're not going to take advantage of the 4K (2160p) and HDR, there is absolutely no need buy a 4K TV. Just buy yourself a good LED FHD TV like it's 5+ years ago if you're mostly just gonna use 1080p and 1080i anyways.
For like 20 years or so people thought VHS to be the ultimate format, an evergreen.
In 20 years we'll look at 4k like how we saw vhs today
@@ronin7561 It's more likely digital encoding will improve
I grew up in the VHS age and then in my late teen years DVD came out. That was considered such a huge improvement in quality. Haha, and nowdays we would be like: ew, why is it so pixelated? This barely tolerable on a mobile phone.
Doubtful. There’s a limit to resolution, at least in terms of perceptibility to the human eye. We may get 8K and 16K in coming years but the way I understand it. Such resolutions let you see what you do at 4K but from further away.
Even with 4K, the differences vs blu-Ray are more in the details. I was watching some 70s and 80s films on my new 4K player and thought they didn’t look as clear as they should, as if I had the wrong setup. The difference becomes clear when you do a side by side comparison but it’s not the mind-blowing difference like it was going from VHS to blu-Ray or even to DVD, where you could tell right off the bat “Holy shit what an upgrade!”
VHS was the only thing our parents had to entertain us. Have you ever traveled for a long lane on buses? Only VHSs were the entertainment available there. I remember having watched moves in that situation for the first time.
People need to quit defending VHS lol. It was awesome at the time, but quit coming at me with aesthetics - it's an inferior format period.
I've never seen someone make the argument that it's better. But simply that it's a great use for aesthetic purposes.
@@MrBeastknows No its not thats the point
The thing is. VHS doesnt look bad. Heck i still use it for recording cable tv here since there's not many other things available
@@tjeerdtrekkie1030 Well for the aesthetic it worth more to use Super VHS C camcorders or Hi8 camcorders.
I mean Super VHS is very underrated.
VHS was designed to view on an interlaced, CRT monitor. They never look the same as a progressive scan source, especially when deinterlacing (youtube) algorithms discard fields (half your spatial and pixel resolution mind you). Keep that in mind. VHS still looks fantastic on an old CRT. It has character and life.
Deinterlacing isn't a bad thing per-say, I don't know what OP used
It could be pixel aliasing too.
Modern TV's and Deinterlacing algorithms like QTGMC and Yadif do a fine job for the most part in motion, freeze frames are still often kind of problematic though, and any motion that's too fast will start to cause blur. Even viewing interlaced video on a CRT, you can notice combing on certain things if you look close enough. It's an imperfect system even when viewed as intended
You can usually know when a deinterlacing method is imprecise
@@leaks2055 It was actually shot progressive and then "interlaced" for SD source recordings.
interlacing meant 512 lines were displayed on 256 lines CRT using a switching effect, a glorifed alias effect, all 512 lines are shown here per row of pixels, so this video will look clearer. VHS never looked good, and this is telling when you see the jump to DVD. It was game changer people bought into DVD far more quickly than any other medium
In my experience vhs coud not give hd video quality
Some CRT TVs technically have more lines than standard, but you are kind of limited with what you can feed it with to get full quality directly like security cameras and broadcast cameras.
Thank you for the video comparison.
every video my family filmed years 2002 to 2009 including much of my early childhood from when i was born to when i was 6, was filmed on a S-VHS camcorder, not the most current format even then but it did the job for our family, it's just weird because many of my younger friends their entire childhood is on digital formats posted on Facebook but to see these early years i still need to get out the box of tapes
I'll probably get a vhs camcorder to record things when i have kids, i just don't trust digital formats to have as much longevity as vhs does, Mark Zuckerburg goes bankrupt and most of my generation's childhood is gone
My childhood was filmed on Super8 movie film ... yes, I am that old! 😁
Why is nobody mentioning how much more vibrant the colors look on VHS?
4k is 100x better then VHS
Infact 4K is on a whole nother level
VHS is old time garbage
Thank you for the truth
VHS is still better
Lol 😆
Nostalgia should be for people and times, not for tech that is clearly, obviously, a crapfest compared to the modern things we have. (And no, a CRT doesn't magically make VHS look better than HD for heaven's sake, that's just madness.)
I'm pretty sure people think VHS tapes are better than 4K Blu-Rays or even HD Blu-Rays and DVD are blind as a bat and are delusional. They can keep lying to themselves and let nostalgia fog up there eyes, but they need to move on from obsolete formats. Do we see Rick & Morty, Loud House, Encanto, My Hero Academia or other modern movies and TV shows on VHS tapes? The answer is simple. No! 4K Blu-Rays, HD Blu-Rays and even DVDs are miles better than VHS tapes and people don't need to lie to themselves anymore.
lol this is a digitized version of VHS not the original VHS quality we could take any 4k video and convert it to a lower quality version and say 4k is low quality it's not the original version...70mm is still higher quality than 4k analog will always be superior to digital in terms of quality
I think it's cool when watching a movie on VHS, you get the original colors of the movie, which makes it more authentic and raw. The digitally enhanced copies on dvd are good to preserve history but it looks pollished.
A common DVD which got burned by you might deteriorate after 10 years, high quality tapes last much longer. Only special discs like M-Discs last a long time.
You forgot D-VHS! D-VHS supports up to 1080i!
Didn’t realize how big the jump of quality from vhs to dvd was
I don't think that is possible. I think this guy got a 4K movie and recordered with a VCR and then he said he did it the other way around.
He states all he did was take a 4K video and downscale to older formats. The source is already 4K.
I'm hallucinating, in the 80s and 2000s, that's how he released videos with VHS, DVD and Blu-ray! what I would like to learn is the quality of VHS and DVD with SD🔥🔥🔥 like in Disney 2000s DVDs.😁😁😁💯💯
vhs is trash
In terms of resolution, VHS was 225p, Beta Max was 330p, Laser Disc was 425p but had lossless audio, unlike DVD. And DVD actually started at 420p but moved to 480. That's about all I know.
Blu-Ray’s can be 4K as well. Just sayin’.
how does one go from old vhs video to 4K, what does one need.
0:10 VHS (Video Home System) 288p25 in PAL 240p30 in NTSC
0:37 S-VHS (Super - Video Home System) 576p in PAL 480p in NTSC
1:05 VCD (Video Compact Disc) 288p in PAL 240p in NTSC
1:32 DVD (Digital Video Disc) 576p in PAL 480p in NTSC
1:58 BD (Blu-ray Disc) 1080p FHD
2:25 4K 2160p UHD
Oh. No 60fps??? If you dont capture vhs at 50/60fps then youre not really getting the most out of it
VHS was really high quality digital transfers on the internet are low quality we could take a high quality 4k video and have a low quality digital version of it...it doesn't reflect the original quality...why do people think VHS was low quality? Attempts to digitize VHS which were originally meant for CRT monitors look low quality but not the original quality...70mm is still higher quality than 4k in terms of quality analog will always be higher quality than digital
and then videos in games that try to predict the future seems to be glitchier and have worse video quality.. lol
UMMMMM try 45 years...since VHS was make in 1975. Yeah it didn't become a "THING" until the mid 80's but it was still made it 75'
Can you do a how to video please?
I listed how I achieved my results below. You can follow those instructions if you would like to re-create something similar.
You forgot LaserDisc & HD DVD
Laserdisc used standard def encoding (similar to DVD) and HD-DVD used the same HD encoding as BluRay discs (I have both at home to compare). So there's no real benefit in adding additional versions of the same resolution files to the mix.
@@craigavonvideo Actualy LD quality was a little bit better than VHS and S-VHS, the tape artifacts were absent. But it would have been rather difficult to find an unused and actually working recordable LD disc.
D VHS ?
You did it in the wrong direction.
Rerender it from good to bad. So the viewer sees the details first and then can search it in VHS.
There's a charm to VHS and SVHS quality
Problem is, s-vhs was not a big hit because dvd was right there after it. Not many movies were put out in s-vhs.
You can take a dvd and record onto S-VHS tape to get the S-VHS quality.
It's a warm and physical quality inherent to analog technology. It's why people love vinyl and film photography as well
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VideoCD looked so pixelated and worse than VHS.
videocd is a quarter of the resolutiuon a dvd has, with very bad mpeg1 compression. you get better colors than with a vhs tape, but with all those artifacts and pixelation it can look worse than a very good vhs recording. i often recorded in the this format back in the late 90s and generaly VHS was better. digital recording only looked better when i could record in full pal res and mpeg2 compression - with a way faster CPU some years later.
hi what software do i need to get the vhs to dvd or 4k thanks very much can you help me out
This video took a 4K file and scaled it down through the various home video formats of the last 30 years until we reached VHS. There is no way to upscale VHS to make it look like 4K.
This is so cool. I was curious if I record a 4k show on a vhs tape will it play back the same way.
Anything recorded on VHS will play back at standard VHS quality - no matter what the source.
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Is that the place where game of thrones was shot
Yes it is. It's called The Dark Hedges.
@@craigavonvideo which is the place shown in video with cliffs and beaches
@@jeevan4710 The beach is Downhill beach with Mussenden Temple on the clifftop. The castle ruins are Dunluce castle near Portrush. All are within 10 miles of each other.
Great video, although I'm a little bothered with the cross-luma artifacts in the S-VHS example. ;)
This was clearly just filters on a 4k video.
No, it's 4K video re-encoded to DVD and Bluray formats, and in the case of VHS, actually recorded onto tape and then digitised back, before being inserted into a 4K timeline in Adobe Premiere.
The PAL version of SVHS was way better than in your example.
Blue ray and 4k look almost the same to me
Not a fair comparison. You can't just downsample from a 4k source. A properly mastered DVD wouldn't have aliasing. The VHS output looks like those piracy ads they used to have at the start of VHS rental videos 😂
Well you are not wrong but standard VHS was never a really good format back then tbh.
Also this guy didn’t deinterlace the VHS source good he used a really poor filter.
Was the original source videos from VHS or 4K?
Original source (as stated multiple times) was 4k 25p as shot on a Panasonic G80 DSLR-style camera. This was then re-encoded as a VCD, DVD & BluRay file and added to a 4k timeline in Adobe Premiere. The VHS and S-VHS files were recorded on tape and that then injested into the same timeline. All then output as a 4k UHD file and uploaded to RUclips.
You should start with Beta
Now in 2020 have 16k in beta
Interesting. One ting though, was the VHS tape de-interlaced in your NLE? There seemed to be quite a bit of aliasing suggesting a form of line doubling de-interlacing method, which will have reduced the effective resolution in half.
The original source was progressive so no true interlacing took part. A progressive composite signal was fed into a JVC S-VHS machine and that derived the 50i signal from the 25p source. This was then recorded in both SVHS and standard VHS modes and the resultant tapes replayed back onto a DVDR for ingest into a PC. I can't remember what way I combined the fields but I normally use frame blending for other interlaced sources so imagine I did the same here too. One thing I did notice is that Adobe Premiere didn't UPSCALE the SD image well, so yes there is a lot of aliasing as a result of that (should've used VirtualDub). All this video is demonstrating is the vast improvement we've witnessed to home video over the last 30 years. It isn't meant to be seen as a reference standard resource.
@@craigavonvideo Hmmm, that doesn't seem right. VHS is natively an interlaced format and to my knowledge no progressive scan analogue camcorders were made. If there was an outlier camcorder out there that did progressive scan it will have done this with line doubling rather than any sophisticated method, but as I say in all my time in the industry I've never come across an analogue camcorder that was capable f progressive scan recording. I understand the purpose of the video, but it would be interesting to see the analogue recordings presented with the full information.
@@simonwyndham Original video shot in 4K 25p on a Panasonic G80 DSLR-style camera.
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Hmmm , so the 1980's VHS footage with a 2000ish car... interesting..😄
The footage was shot in 2018, don't know why you think it came from the 1980s?
Like the soug you have chosen
What happen to betamax
Ok so about the VHS,S-VHS and Video CD footage, are they legit or did you throw on a vintage filter to make it look real.If not then were they all recorded in anormorphic widescreen
They are all legit recordings taken from a 4K UHD source (Panasonic G80). I deliberately recorded the VHS/VCD footage in anamorphic to utilise the full resolution if the image (rather than centre-crop and show as a 4:3 image). Basically the original source files were down-rezzed in Premiere to 1080p HD and burnt onto a BD-R disc. I then played this back into a JVC Super VHS recorder to get both VHS and S-VHS recordings. These were then recorded back onto DVD at high bitrates and ingested into Premiere onto a 4K timeline. One thing I did notice about Premiere is that it isn't very good at upscaling, so all the SD footage actually looked a bit better than it appears here (less aliasing). But either way, I think this video gives a good idea of just how much improved the resolution / video quality is for the same shots, moving from format to format.
Terrific! But I got another question. When I looked at the VHS ans SVHS recordings, there's this checkerboard thing changing pattern on Line#21. I think that's what you call Close Caption on an analog signal. How did you get close captions on those recordings? Cause I wanna see if this can be done with you tube videos on record-able VHS tapes.
No idea, unless the DVD recorder was adding a signal by default.
@@craigavonvideo may be the blanking bar that is part of the synchronization (top & bottom of 480i & 480p)
Wonderful VHS old and BluRay and 4k UHD most great result of 4k UHD
VHS Still Rocks! :)
Would've loved to see Dtheater but that's more obscure
@1:43 I didn't even notice there was a bridge with people crossing it. It was mountains on some beach in the previous qualities! 😆
VHS was 4:3 aspect ratio or leterboxed widescreen.
It doesn't show that here.
the title is not true.
it could be from 4k to VHS.
The title is meant to read from VHS to 4K in Just 30 Years. This video shows the improvements in picture quality that have happened to home video since the 1980s. That is all.
0:16 0:44 1:11 1:38 2:05 2:33
Good footage, but is missing a d-vhs (hd) format in the middle between s-vhs and DVD...
the HD format that got its start in the very early 90s.
craiga von video
hi what software did u use plz??
Adobe Premiere to edit the various video files together onto a 4K timeline.
When 8K content becomes mainstream we will need an updated video titled “Comparing VHS to 8K Video Picture Quality”
I could do a 6K to VHS as my GH5 shoots 6K 4:3 video. I think that 8K will be used more for acquisition rather than delivery to the home as it's just not necessary to have such a detailed image on a small screen in someone's living room.
Well 4k isnt really 4k, its actually 2160p which is double 1080p.
4k was a huge marketing scam that MOST fell for.
@@ACommenterOnRUclips Well, Cinema 4K is slightly wide than UHD at 4096 pixels versus 3840 pixels, but the height is the same at 2160px. Hardly a marketing scam - although whether 4K is really needed in the home is debateable (unless you've a very large screen).
@@craigavonvideo 1080p = 1920 x 1080 and NOBODY looks or references the 1920 portion and never have they said it was a 2k resolution, it was marketed and sold as 1080P .... NOT 2K ...
4k = 3840 x 2160 ... Should have been called and marketed as 2160p as the 1080p before it, instead they used the 3840 portion to make it look bigger as a marketing scam even though NOBODY looks at the 3840 portion .... And thats exactly WHAT IT IS ... a marketing scam. There is nothing special about it other than its double the 1080p.
Dont sit there and try to school me on what is and is not a marketing scam when its right in your face.
They are fudging the #'s to make it look better than what it actually is.
@@ACommenterOnRUclips It's not really a scam though, is it? It still has 4 times as many pixels as 1080, which is a significant difference. It's not like they are selling you something that isn't much much higher fidelity.
Beside the resolution of the digital format, all others aspects are better or the VHS/SVHS, plus you have raw data,not sampled color space, not heavily compressed data using vectors, colors reprocution scheme,etc... it' more ecologic (15W average power, no internet pollution, data security/privacy), it's fun and easy to use (Push the tape and that's all), and it refresh all your screen pixel all the time (Vhs/Svhs are noisy and unsteady). It's durable in time. (30 years well stocked Vhs are still working) (Clean heads with cassette cleaner before and after viewing)
The sound is fantastic in Fm carrier up to dolby surround.
Give it a try, i've tried some and i got more pleasure with them than any digital sources now. Resolution isn't a matter at all at reasonable viewing ratio, plus on a movie you don't care about reading the brand of the whikey the people are drinking... and not mentioning the feeling of the material which isn't possible on digital unless it's raw data, which common people would never have... (Even movie theater don't have raw data) Of course there is also the LD/16mm for the more money packaged people and less video bandwidth compressed signal...
Don't take these comparison for reel, some skilled people with the correct capture card/upscaling get a way better resolution than this certainly raw using bad converter captured video. (Can you give the specs and how you captured the video please ?, i suspect that you captured it between 352*288-720*576 in 8bit color space...) My definition is way better on my direct analog upscaled (Line doubler + 3K Hdr direct processing card) projector...
SHAME that they don't release anymore direct master to VHS/SVHS tape...
Waiting for people to make them again from movie theater Hdd to VHS/SVHS...
Save the planet, save your indentity, be analog...
1: DvD players use anywhere from 1-13 watts on average, and there are some low powered ones can be run off of a usb connection on your computer.
2: Magnetic cassette tapes lose a tiny bit of fidelity every time they are played, DvDs and Digital files do not have this issue.
3: While analog might offer _slightly_ better color accuracy, the low resolution of vhs tapes causes the colors to blur into areas where they do not belong, sullying the picture quality. This is also made moot by the fact that new video formats come in a 10 bit color space, which can display more shades of color than the human eye can perceive.
4: Vhs tapes need to be maintained, and the tape coatings degrade over time. They need to be stored in a cool, low humidity space in order to prolong their lifespan. DvD disks do not degrade over time, and do not require any kind of maintenance other than wiping off dust and smudges.
There is a great appeal to the analog video quality of vhs, but newer forms of video storage and playback are objectively superior in _almost _ every way. They last longer, don't require maintenance, have higher resolutions, and can be accessed instantly in the case of flash drives. If DvDs truly were inferior to vhs tapes, they would not have taken over the market as the successor to vhs. They would have just gone down in history as another flop.
While it is clear that you have a deep appreciation towards vhs and analog video, you have to understand that you are grossly overhyping its actual quality. Using phrases like "Save the planet, save your identity, be analog" honestly sounds really cringy and only succeeds in making you sound like an old-timer desperately waging a futile war against the winds of change. So do yourself a favor, and understand that all mediums of video have their places, and not everyone prioritizes that same aspects of video quality. Some people get headaches looking at ultra low-res video, and some do not. Some people enjoy the vibe of analog video, and others would rather watch the high bitrate crispness of digital.
@@Neferpitou- 1: DvD players use anywhere from 1-13 watts on average, and there are some low powered ones can be run off of a usb connection on your computer.
Sorry what, don't know anymore, it's to a crap thing to be mentionned and 13 watts for that and this is certainly the lower i've ever seen for a digital device playback, it must for sure be just the reader, because the sony dvp i had (one of thes best) were about 35W!
2: Magnetic cassette tapes lose a tiny bit of fidelity every time they are played, DvDs and Digital files do not have this issue.
I'm doing restoration and for me each time i pass them, it's better! But yes, they should get some dust or others things fron storage! For sure a cd or something like this just unuseable if dropped on the floor! Not mentionning file corruption, etc...
3: While analog might offer slightly better color accuracy, the low resolution of vhs tapes causes the colors to blur into areas where they do not belong, sullying the picture quality. This is also made moot by the fact that new video formats come in a 10 bit color space, which can display more shades of color than the human eye can perceive.
Low resosultion of vhs Tape, you makes me laugth, first off all it will be low definition, because no resolution in analog, but definition. secondly video color has nothing to do with the VHS definition but more with the VHS color bandwidth and analog color format is about 1V with an accuracy of 0.01mv so 16bit adc are required, much more than your 10 bits! I'm waching VHS in "HDR" if this meaning something, because my ADC is 10bit, so litteraly HDR VHS, but yes color accuracy on VHS does not blur but are not accurate in primary colors specially on cheap series with poor color gradient, like south park or the simpsons, that regarding your picture you must be fan of (synthetic guy)! And to finish like in mortal combat, color space on VHS isn't sampled, so even beyond 16bit adc you will get something! The 10 bit color or HDR dac, are just as good as nothing which exist in analog format, comeback when you will have 16bit Dac or 24bit ones, or whtever you want before we are not sampled!
4: Vhs tapes need to be maintained, and the tape coatings degrade over time. They need to be stored in a cool, low humidity space in order to prolong their lifespan. DvD disks do not degrade over time, and do not require any kind of maintenance other than wiping off dust and smudges.
Wrong! Dvd degrade themself just by playing them, and store them into a cold place them in to a hot place and you get a something that would play with a noise that you even don't imagine! If it still plays. Not mentionning also humid storage, but nothing can resiste to long time humid storage!
There is a great appeal to the analog video quality of vhs, but newer forms of video storage and playback are objectively superior in _almost _ every way. They last longer, don't require maintenance, have higher resolutions, and can be accessed instantly in the case of flash drives. If DvDs truly were inferior to vhs tapes, they would not have taken over the market as the successor to vhs. They would have just gone down in history as another flop.
Wow you seems to be a doctor in signal processing but no never will be digital better than analog, i can just try to be as good as analog! Regarding the maintenance you seems to be such a lazy man... Business is business, when something makes money, they don't care about sellings craps things. People well informed never bought these DVD/blue ray so did i, and in the contrary of you i'm not selling my blue ray for hdr ones oday and won't sell the hdr for 8k ones tomarrow instead of this they bought VHS still 2018 and now again starting 2021(snif for the laserdisc, b.......)! And again mortal combat fisnishing, no nothing last longer than magnetics tape, that's what they use on your netflix account to display your 480p low bitrate video synthetic experiences if we still can call this a video experience, but a mathematical flow of bit reconstrution to display squares with colors based on vector motions, etc!
While it is clear that you have a deep appreciation towards vhs and analog video, you have to understand that you are grossly overhyping its actual quality. Using phrases like "Save the planet, save your identity, be analog" honestly sounds really cringy and only succeeds in making you sound like an old-timer desperately waging a futile war against the winds of change. So do yourself a favor, and understand that all mediums of video have their places, and not everyone prioritizes that same aspects of video quality. Some people get headaches looking at ultra low-res video, and some do not. Some people enjoy the vibe of analog video, and others would rather watch the high bitrate crispness of digital.
Double mortal conbat finishing:
Crispness have never been so bad with digital and so it is for audio, picture and video! I have headhache reading your dataflow of stupoidities! I'm sure you haven't any blueray, nor dvd, no anything physical, but just a netflix accoutn or illegal website to download your craps thing displayed on a computer which consume ten times the power needed to works with a VHS. Not mentionning your pirate platform to encodes these files in x265 slow mode!
While it's clear that you are telling things that you even not understand, i won't go further in this discussion, because you trying without success to spread anger, and misinformation, nothing else, bye.
Mode @Neferpitou On:
How is it possible to have so much anger, and jealousy!
Go buy some vhs, or i don't know some kinder, but don't ever try to bother me unless you as me have tried analysed, and acquired all the technology digital, and analog, because i do have to two of them, so i do think that regarding people who don't have any one vhs into their home, it's just incredible how they can be uncredible! Please go back to school! Digital is just an economic way of stealing people like you no more.
A good advise start to buy a vinyl, it will first open you ears, then try a laserdisc, for you eyes, on a tritube gridless 1000 line CRT, compare anything digital over it and come back to me! But you won't you're just a troller!
Hey you created an account just for that!
Mode @Neferpitou Off:
just do you know the datarate of a Vhs? Don't you know that even the sound is better than any digital format?
for you stupid brain just think that tape HIFI sound in playing a 5 meters/s!
You're just a profane here!
Next time buy a vhs, a laserdisc, a vinyl, a cassette tape, a reel to reel tape, a 8mm projector, in fact averything that you even don't know what it is before typing to your keyboard.
Oh, you still breathing, sorry haven't any pitty for digital lovers:
I'm very surprised that with your knowledge, wisdom, and perfect senses, you still don't realized how it's stupid to try to use digital technology to finally display/produces analog waves at the end, common be 100% digital use a brainschip to transfer this fabulous (crap) numerical data directly into your brain and fill the power and the fun experiences of only memory backflash! Oh yes it's the best way to enjoy digital, because it's virtuall! You ever not realized that you don't exist in a reel world so you need to use physical materialization (DAC) for that! And you think you can be better that what you're trying to simulate! you worth nothing, when people will realize it, and they starting to, you will be remembered as the world most legal scam spread over the world. Stop veil your face! You were made for video game, nothing more. Eveything else is just economical, but as it's also becoming as boring as unpleasant, even this advantages start to go away. The more and more power you will need to put information on these dac in order to try generates more pleasant analog weave for the people that simple analog device can do with a few part of this power will not only kill the earth, but also the life!
Article are now prooving that digital harm the eyes, the ears and the cerebral cognition!
Therefore nothing's better than analog video support!
@@anonymex22 Dude, I can't take you seriously. Everything that you responded with is either backwards, such as when you claimed that dvd's degrade by being played when in reality its cassette tapes that have that problem, or just flat out wrong.
I should thank you, that last paragraph of yours gave me a real chuckle. Trying so hard to be demeaning while misspelling every other word and using preschooler grammar like "sTOp vEiL yOur fAcE" and "tHe WorlD mOSt lEGal sCaM sPrEAd oVeR thE wORld" is honestly hilarious to read. Perhaps you should pursue a career in stand up comedy, you could honestly make millions getting people to laugh at what you have to say!
I understand now that you have more than just an unhealthy obsession with analog equipment, you are stuck in the technological stone age. You seem to have no knowledge of any of the digital standards, yet you see fit to demonize people who are just trying to get on with their lives. You claim that DACs suck the environment dry with their power consumption, yet the environmental impact of DACs is virtually zero compared to almost anything else. Your car engine wastes enough energy while IDLING to power over 100 DACs simultaneously. You claim that I'm a troll, yet you are the one who responded with pitiful insults when all I did was provide my honest opinion on the matter. Don't you think its kinda hypocritical to claim that i'm "veiling my face" behind my profile picture when you are literally doing the exact same thing behind E.T?
Conclusion: Your opinion smells worse than the Taco Bell bathroom 🤮🤮🤮 get lost kid.
Hello! Is it possible to remaster a Videotape content to 4K UltraHD, considering that this content is only available in this SD format, or is it truly necessary that this primary font needs to be a 35mm content? I'm asking this also to know if this video, that you uploaded here, it's a true example of this situation I'm asking. Is this video the proof that this is possible to do? Thanks in advance for your attention. I'll be waiting your reply ASAP.
No, although you can improve the picture a bit, low resolution will always remain low resolution, that's why it's important to try and capture footage in the highest source quality possible.
This video is actually "de-mastering" a 4K source to show the differences in resolution and picture quality between various domestic video formats from the last 30 years.
Even today, 4K content looks better if taken from a 6K / 8K source than from a native 4K file. Likewise, HD material will look better if it is taken from a 4K master.
@@craigavonvideo Thanks for your explanation. If I understood correctly, this video, in fact, was originally recorded in 4k and then you transfer its content into the respective formats till the VHS, and then you show us in a inverted way. Is that correct? It was like a 4K to VHS reversed presentation? If so, it's also interesting to watch. I just asked you my main doubt above, because I was wondering if would be possible to transfer and remaster all those Michael Jackson's concerts, that, unfortunately, are not available in any High Resolution Quality anywhere, except for his movies like "Moonwalker", "The Wiz", and others that were recorded natively from 35mm film or in other HD sources, like his latest "This is It" rehearsals. In fact, I really don't know if his shows, like "Dangerous" or "Bad" World Tour were recorded alternatively in 35mm or any kind of negative cells. Have you saw the recently 4K remastered from the INXS concert ? That is truly amazing and it's a beautiful example of the restoration quality I'd like to watch in Michael Jackson's works. Here's the link for you to watch: ruclips.net/video/RvgThJ8HZyY/видео.html
There's conversion software that will do a fake 4K and take a guess.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 What would be, Jeff? Tell me more about it, I'm interested to know.
@@WesSantana there’s software that can upscale to a modern resolution like 1080p, 1440p, or 4K using A.I.
what year is that white car?
2018
No es posible conseguir 4k ni 1080 de esta manera, si la fuente original no es en 4k o mínimo en 1080, no se puede conseguir, a lo mejor con AI y renderizado de muchas horas. Si no es cierto y tienen un sistema que no conocemos, seria de agradecer que nos informaran de ello, muchas gracias
Claramente lo habrá hecho con IA
No ha hecho eso, sino lo contrario. Ha grabado una fuente 4K en diferentes formatos inferiores y los ha mostrado en orden cronológico. Efectivamente es imposible conseguir semejante mejora con reescalados y de momento no hay inteligencia artificial que pueda tampoco.
Muy de acuerdo con @TheStone, ademas seria muy extraño, ver pasar un Opel Insigna en un VHS original...🤔🧐👽👽👽
This video isn't all too accurate because whatever method was being used to capture the VHS video is really bad!
Capture is OK but the upscaler in Adobe Premiere isn't the best. Would have been better using Virtual Dub to upscale and then drop it into the Premiere timeline. At the end of the day, this video is just a simple demonstration of the vast difference between a format that we were all perfectly happy with in the 1980s and the high res formats of today.
Did you start with a VHS recording then upscale to each higher def?
No. As said before, I started with a 4K source file and recorded that onto different video formats until we reached VHS quality.
@@craigavonvideo Yeah i think Carol Vorderman uses that trick to get rid of her wrinkles,lol.
You dont notice the Opel Insigna? Very scary if that car is on a original VHS movie... 🤔 Back to the Future?😅
4k is definitely the better picture quality in every way it has a much higher resolution then the vhs allowing you to get a crispper image as well as the colors being much more vibrant and clear without any visual distortion or loss
Great video. Thanks.
Kde je D-VHS a HD-DVD??
How the hell did you made 16:9 from VHS?
The original source file was 16:9 - I recorded this in anamorphic form onto the VHS (and Super VHS) tape so that it filled the full 4:3 raster and then "de-squeezed" it back into 16:9 on playback. The reason for this was to give the best image quality from the VHS tape in the edit. I could have either cropped the original file to 4:3 or recorded it 16:9 letterboxed on a 4:3 raster, but wanted to give VHS (and indeed S-VHS) the best chance against the later formats for comparison sake so I gave it the fullest resolution possible.
Yeah, VHS accepts 16:9. I've recorded plenty of 16:9 TV onto it.
What deinterlacing did you use?
The original source was shot progressive. The VHS and S-VHS machines would have taken that and made a 50i recording of it. I can't remember if I de-interlaced it in Virtual Dub or Adobe Premiere, but it would just have been a matter of blending 2 fields into 1 frame to get the 25p video back again to drop onto the timeline. However I did notice that Premiere isn't a very good upscaler so the VHS capture isn't quite as good as it could be, but it's still adequate for this basic demonstration.
Super VHS looks best for me. The reason is I was socialised to vhs and watched most of the movies as a child and teenager on vhs.
Might wanna change the settings to the right standard to get rid of the pal problems on the top of the video
maybe vhs 240, dvd 480 , blu-ray 1080
VHS at about 270, VCD at 240 (but without the chroma noise of VHS), S-VHS at 350-400 ish, DVD at 576, BluRay at 1080, UHD at 2160.
What do you use to make vhs look like DVD Quailty?
The original source was already a 4K file, so it was just a matter of re-rendering it as a standard PAL DVD file and re-inserting it onto the 4K timeline in Premiere for editing. VHS will never match DVD for quality as it is too low resolution and too noisy (esp. chroma noise). The point of this video was to show just how much difference there is between VHS and 4K video.
@@craigavonvideo ok, i see
@@craigavonvideo what do you recomend for me i have vhs tapes from 80's to covert into digital? whats the best way? cheers
Is it just me, or is the only available in 720p. How can you see the difference when the RUclips video is only 720p?
It's just you :) I'm still getting 2160p here.
@@craigavonvideo I'm connected to wifi. 100mbps. You Tube only gives me the option of 720p for this video.
You surely used the same footage for each episode. How did you manage to make a quality degradation so well? Using filters?
Yes, the original footage was shot in 4k UHD at 25p and downgraded to the lower resolutions. VHS was recorded on an actual VHS tape and ingested back into a 4K timeline. VCD was re-encoded using (I think) TMPGenc and standard & HD PAL were re-encoded with Handbrake before all being re-inserted onto Premiere's 4K timeline where they were all upscaled to the final output resolution.
All this is in Rec 709 if the is ever an updated version.add after 4K "HLG-HDR in rec 2020" as BT2020 is the REAL jump when it comes to image quality
but thank you for uploading this compare video.
When i record Super VHS it's better than Video CD it's more like DVD. VHS=Video CD & Super VHS=DVD (When converting analog to digital and vice versa)
@@hicobra Yeah. S-VHS and DVD are rather similar. Just some colour loss with VHS.
S-VHS is good to use in conjunction with a DVD recorder for shows and editing.
I have been doing video for a long time and .. To compare formats with lower resolution, you need to use the correct deinterlacing. And in this video it is not. Simple software reduction in image resolution. It is necessary to make a video on the camcorder devices that provide the appropriate resolution. And be choice correct deinterleice filtr. And why then on my channel video from original divice with an increase in resolution and the right deinterlacing, everytime looks very different in the best way.
Having been working in video production since 1985 so I know about interlacing artifacts. The source footage here was shot on a DSLR in progressive mode and kept that way until it was fed into a VHS recorder (and also an S-VHS machine) using TDK tapes. These recordings were then transferred onto recordable DVD (still interlaced from the tape recording process, but from a 25p source remember) and ripped onto a PC where VirtualDub was used to de-interlace them before they were inserted into a 4K timeline on Adobe Premiere. De-interlacing isn't the problem here, however upscaling with Premiere is (as I acknowledged in a previous reply) and I should really have used VirtualDub to upscale the SD footage to 4K res before editing it with Premiere. So yes, there is some aliasing in the SD upscaling, but no interlacing artifacts.
Fake
Is it really possible to convert a poor quality vhs footage from the 80s to 4k or 8k as shown in the above video. If so which software is best for the process and who is the sourse to go to in India or any other place in the world?
No. This video shows 4K video downscaled to VHS quality (by actually recording the 4K file onto VHS and re-capturing it digitally). The point of the video is just to show the difference in image quality of the various home video formats we've used over the last 30 years.
Of course it's possible. Thes best way is to convert the composite into RVB or ypbypr, pass trought a line doubler, then an upscaler 4K/8k to hdmi, it's costly but you won't regret it. Also newer Best TV can sometimes have direct upscaler from composite, less good since you don't have aline doubler plus an rgb/ypbypr before, but correct and less costly. The more cheaper is a direct upscaler from the composite. There are at all price from HD TO UHD HDR. Since no color sampling is output from a VHS, i would go for at least 10Bit/colour converter (Very costly these ones). If the tape is in good conditions, you blow avay a blue ray till 4KHDR. (Of course less stable, it's also 240TVL but you don't aware of many details can be stored in these famous lines, very good colors, and frame rate 50/60FPS where any digital is about 25/30 False FPS)... Best is to try, theorical things, are always differents in practical ones. But it has a cost... Anyway Never capture a VHS without an upscaler first, it will endlessly like this poor video comparison as the converters are still stuck to 720*576*8Bits which isn't at all sufficient... (Nyquist Theorem)
Don't worry guyz I'm gonna invent MK, M stands for mirror quality and screen will also correspondent to mirror..
🤣🤣🤣🤣
so.. how can I convert my old real VHS from 80s to today's 4K? any suggestion??
That isn't a possibility.
Go back in time with the equipment necessary to do the recording in 4k.
What camera you used?
Panasonic Lumix G80 in 4K25p mode.
... to RUclips.
The perception of reality recorded through vhs simply seems better than 4k in a way I cannot describe even though 4k is superior in terms of picture quality.
False. VHS is terrible
Did such cars exist in the era of VHS?
Video was filmed in 2018 in 4K and then transferred down to VHS. This was then digitally captured and inserted into a 4K timeline in Adobe Premiere. I recorded the VHS footage in anamorphic style to try and get the best resolution out of the format (rather than just letterboxing it).
Yes
I thought u used AI upscaler.
lol me too
XD!
If you notice when the camera moves on the VHS versus everything else, the image stays much more consistent and there is no motion blur. You cannot get that with digital video. It’s simply impossible.
I have a Video in VHS Version... How do i bring it to Bluray or 4k
... debe ser con aparatos sofisticados yo tengo 28 cassette de los 90 y seria interesante ver nitida la imagen alguien que nos pase el dato porfa, los expertos
It's impossible. This video didn't upgrade from VHS to 4K but he opposite way from 4K to VHS.
@@TheStOne1 why did you even answer him ?
S-VHS is nearly identical to DVD. ~420 lines vs 480 lines
In most of the world DVD resolution is 576i for SD video, so there was a bit of a falloff on S-VHS resolution, although on old CRT sets it was barely noticable as they rarely managed more than 500 lines themselves.
@@craigavonvideo i am not in most of the world, my side of the world dvd is 480 lines and s-vhs is 420 lines.
The majority of the people today wont be able to distinguish between 420 and 480 lines.
I have standard dvd and dvd's that i recorded onto S-VHS tapes and i cant see the difference.
+ mobile smartphones quality?))))
Basically bluray/4k bruh
What are you talking about
Meh...
where is this costal location?
The coastal locations are all on the north coast of Northern Ireland and used in Game of Thrones (as is The Dark Hedges at the start of the shoot).
The desert
This VHS is poor quality.
Yep thats VHS for you,
Garbage.
Old school trash
The blu ray version looks the best....even with the 4k video there's not much of an improvement to wow you
OK, I'm going in: did you watch that on a 4K monitor, or a regular HD? Because, you know, there's really not going to be much difference, between HD and 4K, on an HD monitor. Maybe, maybe fewer artifacts.
@@BasketOfPuppies I'm just watching on a phone. Does this 4K include HDR encoding or no?
fake, i dont belive