Do you reckon I'll get similar performance on the ThinkBook 13X with the same specs sans the dGPU? That thing looks very sleek so I'd be stoked to be able to game on it but it's also tiny compared to the Yoga.
You should be fine yes. The Thinkbook won’t have as powerful of a power supply but it seems like 50-55 watts chip power is peak anyways. After that it doesn’t really add anything. So long as the 13x can keep it cool I see no issues.
@@pathf1nd3r I actually ended up getting the Z13 Gen 2 (7840U, 32GB) Beau reviewed a few months back. Never used an AMD laptop before and have decided that I really want one haha
Good power consumption. When i look back good few now at power consumption on my old gaming PC`s builds with GPU`s in Sli, i was hitting close to a 1000 watts. What a difference. Good review Beau. 👍
@@Crazynerds007 once it goes on sale I will look at reviewing it. Right now the price is kind of insane. I have a G14 review coming, alongside another 10 or 12 laptops
Do you plan on testing this CPU with a dGPU? I'm curious what the benchmarks/thermals are with a 4070 or 4080! Love the video! Your channel is awesome man.
A comparison video with Iris xe graphics would’ve been sick also try less demanding games like Fortnite and Gta v to see how it scales against … but great content
In terms of raw power, it’s about equal. In some cases faster in some maybe slower The negative is that AMD gets there with less watts (eg 30 for AMD matches 50 for Intel). In a laptops this doesn’t matter as supplying 50 watts is a pittance. But in a handheld it can be an issue So, in laptops the 185h is an amazing iGPU product. But for portable handhelds the higher wattage demand might be an issue in theory
Hey Beau, I love the content and the varied coverage! but I gotta disagree that this is impressive. Say a laptop has a 60Whr battery, it can get away with 2hrs of gameplay on a 30W 780M vs 1hr on a 185H spiking to 50-65W all the time. That also means more fan noise and more heat. It's a great leap for intel, sure, but still not great in comparison at all. And I hope its way better than a Steamdeck, it uses over 4X the power. Also really disegenious to compare RDR2 @ 1080p with Quality FSR (upscaling from 720P) at 40fps to the current gen consoles being artificially capped at 4K 30fps. The consoles can easily run RDR2 at 4K 60fps with no upscaling (a mod has proven this for the PS5), Rockstar just doesn't care to update it. You can get the unlocked fps adavtage on any PC, it doesn't mean it will look better than the consoles, so the comparison is kind of moot
Appreciate the comment, but Here is the the thing. I never said this would be good in handheld or on battery. In fact I pointed out several times how many watts were needed. The 185h is being tested in a a laptop with 84wh,and most likely has access to an outlet. You need to be careful to not extrapolate to comments and points that are not made. Regardless, the raw performance IS impressive for this chip. I also explained that the 30 watt AMD iGPU would performs similar to 55 watts on this iGPU. Progress is progress.
@@TechGuyBeau "its pulling a lot of watts" *as compared to?* "You're gonna blow away a steam deck" *no caveats added to the statement* After watching this video a 3rd time, I can confirm I didn't extrapolate anything, perhaps you made the points mentioned in your reply in another video I haven't seen. I made clear that that several points you did make in this video were disingenuous. Your reply to me makes your stance much clearer than your 12m video. We just fundamentally disagree that the performance is impressive, being a year late to the party and not any cheaper, while using twice the power. It's not great. I never mentioned its viability as a handheld, merely the oddity of you comparing the two and acting as if the Intel was better. Perhaps you should take your own advice and be careful to not extrapolate to comments and points that are not made. That's all.
@@prasanna3378155h vs 185h is very similar. 780m is more consistent than arc graphics, especially at low wattages. Arc graphics are a huge improvement and perform quite well, but AMD still is a bit better In a laptop both are fine. In a handheld go AMD
hey Beau, I just got mine and I have a question. Does the windows refresh rate options have a dynamic / adaptive option or do we have to use FN+R option to set it to adaptive? Performance on this thing is insane btw on high performance mode. I also noticed Lenovo has X-power overclocking feature for the GPU.
if you're using Upscaler like FSR "BALANCED", its not 1200p. its 720p. Reviewers should not deceive their viewers by confusing them with upscale softwares.
Getting a laptop for work is do some coding and school stuff but i also game quite much which one should i get ? Core Ultra 9 185H with integrated it is a 2.8k OLED Display with 120HZ or i5 13th gen and 4050? The display is FHD Ips and 144HZ
2.8k display since the core ultra 9 can at least run most games and still look good on a better screen...no use having better gfx card if you can't actually see it properly
it’s a huge leap for Intel. It has 1. Much better battery efficiency than 13th/14th Gen 2. Good power overall 3. Excellent iGPU perforce, but required higher watts I think Intel needs to find a way to let us easily disable cores since doing so will allow for equal or better iGPU performance on even lower watts. This would make the core ultra viable in handhelds As it stands. The core ultra is quite good in laptops however
Hey man loved ur detailed review🔥 Can u do the same for the ultra 7 155h. Most mid range laptops are equipped with this. It will great help to a lot of us. Thank you❤
9:25 - Please don't overstate the capabilities here. You suggest that the Series X and PS5 "can't achieve" 60fps, meaning these integrated graphics playing 45 fps are somehow more capable than those consoles. Wrong, the PC port simply allows you to set higher frame rates, but does not mean that the consoles are unable to hit that, Rockstar simply has withheld the patch.
No…. I didn’t state that. The consoles also run at 1440/4k I state that people are accustomed to playing at 45-60fps a lot more then people might think (since pc gamers are often suggesting they need 120+ to be playable) Please don’t extrapolate things I say. Thanks
@@TechGuyBeau You said, and I quote: "we're playing here at 45 fps, 50% more than you the Series X and PS5 can achieve". That misleads the performance of both the consoles and the laptop. Thanks
@@adams4244 I mean, is that false? I prefer higher fps over better graphics. Being able to play at 45fps on low graphics is a better experience for me than locked 30fps at higher graphics.
Because that's how most people would use it. Getting an external GPU is a very, very niche use case. It only really makes sense if you already have a decent GPU lying around but no PC to put it in. Otherwise by the time you're spending the extra $500+ on enclosure + gpu, why not just get a gaming laptop?
@@Obi-Wand you asked if the video about the on board GPU didn't have an external gpu, so I didn't think that needed a direct response. I then just added why it doesn't really make much sense to test e-gpu performance for most cases.
my dumbass was looking at the 1% lows instead of the actual framerate, but the framerate being so close to the 1% low talks about a lotta stable framerate which is quite nice as well
The desktop Intel arc can do RT quite well. Laptop lack the power to pull it off unless you really lowered the res. But yeah it can do it theoretically
the video card in this processor loses 25% to the 3050, and it is already 3 years old, so there is no point in buying a laptop without a video card for gaming@@markaznar1979
a 185h is less than 10% more powerful in single core than an 8845hs and far less powerful in battery life ... all this in laptops 300-400$ more expensive...
Sir does lenevo ideapad pro 5 14 oled support windows studio effect in webcam because it has ultra series cpu with dedicated npu .And other variant of this laptop like slim i or ideapad 5i support windows studio effect.
Well yes, and if you're an actual gamer you should never play like this. But the point is that the integrated graphics are good enough that a casual user is unlikely to need a dedicated GPU.
I had it too mate, HP Omen transcend 14, but the cpu was neither fast nor efficient, so I returned it and got myself a Legion 5 Slim with 7840HS instead. Much better in every aspect.
Every manufacture today says all their laptops are GAMING LAPTOPS, even if they are complete JUNK, you can decent a skunk but its DNA is still a skunk. Unlike PC's where you can upgrade parts - their is 3 main parts in a laptop that can never be altered, they are generally not changeable parts. The Screen / CPU / GPU, so always spend maximum you can afford and get the best of the best of those 3 parts. storage / ram can add those upgrade those any time so its no issue, same with other parts of laptop, those 3 never can be changed typically, so want to purchase the best of the best you can afford of those 3 parts when buying a laptop to last you the longest time. this is the #1 mistake all laptop people fail at to acknowledge the 3 main parts in laptop purchases, regardless of marketing or label's on them.
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Thank you so much for sharing the real-world tests.
Xe3 is a huge leap for Intel's iGPU performance. Super impressive!
This isn’t even Xe2
Really impressive
Do you reckon I'll get similar performance on the ThinkBook 13X with the same specs sans the dGPU? That thing looks very sleek so I'd be stoked to be able to game on it but it's also tiny compared to the Yoga.
You should be fine yes. The Thinkbook won’t have as powerful of a power supply but it seems like 50-55 watts chip power is peak anyways. After that it doesn’t really add anything. So long as the 13x can keep it cool I see no issues.
Could you report back about the performance after getting the device?
@@pathf1nd3r I actually ended up getting the Z13 Gen 2 (7840U, 32GB) Beau reviewed a few months back. Never used an AMD laptop before and have decided that I really want one haha
Ty for this
Good power consumption. When i look back good few now at power consumption on my old gaming PC`s builds with GPU`s in Sli, i was hitting close to a 1000 watts. What a difference. Good review Beau. 👍
Thanks. Yeah it’s quite an improvement for intel. Not as efficient as AMD yet, but it certainly had good raw power
@@TechGuyBeaubro can review the zephyrus G16 with Intel ultra 9 and Rtx 4070
@@Crazynerds007 once it goes on sale I will look at reviewing it. Right now the price is kind of insane. I have a G14 review coming, alongside another 10 or 12 laptops
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks bro and make sure to include some game testing ❤️
Do you plan on testing this CPU with a dGPU? I'm curious what the benchmarks/thermals are with a 4070 or 4080!
Love the video! Your channel is awesome man.
This laptop has a 4060, you can check my yoga 9i gaming video
A comparison video with Iris xe graphics would’ve been sick also try less demanding games like Fortnite and Gta v to see how it scales against … but great content
How does it compare to 780M iGPU from AMD?
In terms of raw power, it’s about equal. In some cases faster in some maybe slower
The negative is that AMD gets there with less watts (eg 30 for AMD matches 50 for Intel). In a laptops this doesn’t matter as supplying 50 watts is a pittance. But in a handheld it can be an issue
So, in laptops the 185h is an amazing iGPU product. But for portable handhelds the higher wattage demand might be an issue in theory
Hey Beau, I love the content and the varied coverage! but I gotta disagree that this is impressive. Say a laptop has a 60Whr battery, it can get away with 2hrs of gameplay on a 30W 780M vs 1hr on a 185H spiking to 50-65W all the time. That also means more fan noise and more heat. It's a great leap for intel, sure, but still not great in comparison at all. And I hope its way better than a Steamdeck, it uses over 4X the power. Also really disegenious to compare RDR2 @ 1080p with Quality FSR (upscaling from 720P) at 40fps to the current gen consoles being artificially capped at 4K 30fps. The consoles can easily run RDR2 at 4K 60fps with no upscaling (a mod has proven this for the PS5), Rockstar just doesn't care to update it. You can get the unlocked fps adavtage on any PC, it doesn't mean it will look better than the consoles, so the comparison is kind of moot
Appreciate the comment, but Here is the the thing. I never said this would be good in handheld or on battery. In fact I pointed out several times how many watts were needed. The 185h is being tested in a a laptop with 84wh,and most likely has access to an outlet.
You need to be careful to not extrapolate to comments and points that are not made. Regardless, the raw performance IS impressive for this chip. I also explained that the 30 watt AMD iGPU would performs similar to 55 watts on this iGPU.
Progress is progress.
@@TechGuyBeau "its pulling a lot of watts" *as compared to?*
"You're gonna blow away a steam deck" *no caveats added to the statement*
After watching this video a 3rd time, I can confirm I didn't extrapolate anything, perhaps you made the points mentioned in your reply in another video I haven't seen. I made clear that that several points you did make in this video were disingenuous. Your reply to me makes your stance much clearer than your 12m video.
We just fundamentally disagree that the performance is impressive, being a year late to the party and not any cheaper, while using twice the power. It's not great.
I never mentioned its viability as a handheld, merely the oddity of you comparing the two and acting as if the Intel was better. Perhaps you should take your own advice and be careful to not extrapolate to comments and points that are not made. That's all.
@@TechGuyBeauintel 185H igpu vs amd 780M igpu, which's better ?
Is there any significant difference between intel 155H igpu and intel 185H igpu ?
@@prasanna3378155h vs 185h is very similar.
780m is more consistent than arc graphics, especially at low wattages. Arc graphics are a huge improvement and perform quite well, but AMD still is a bit better
In a laptop both are fine. In a handheld go AMD
@@TechGuyBeau Then what's the point of 185H over 155H ?
hey Beau, I just got mine and I have a question. Does the windows refresh rate options have a dynamic / adaptive option or do we have to use FN+R option to set it to adaptive? Performance on this thing is insane btw on high performance mode. I also noticed Lenovo has X-power overclocking feature for the GPU.
I just set mine to 120. And yeah the raw performance is really high, matching most gaming laptops with similar specs
@@TechGuyBeau isn't it 165hz on this panel? (I only get 60 and 165 options)
@@Burbananayeah 165 sorry.
if you're using Upscaler like FSR "BALANCED", its not 1200p. its 720p.
Reviewers should not deceive their viewers by confusing them with upscale softwares.
Getting a laptop for work is do some coding and school stuff but i also game quite much which one should i get ? Core Ultra 9 185H with integrated it is a 2.8k OLED Display with 120HZ or i5 13th gen and 4050? The display is FHD Ips and 144HZ
Gaming on a 4059 is much superior, although the screen is a lot worse
2.8k display since the core ultra 9 can at least run most games and still look good on a better screen...no use having better gfx card if you can't actually see it properly
I got a ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED Core Ultra 9, and ran Assassins creed Mirage.
the fans did max out and it was a bit noisy :) but it ran well.
What's your conclusion about this , i9 185h with intel arc graphics is it overall powerful laptop ?????
I would also like to know the answer to your question as well.
Thank you !!
What's your conclusion though? Is it so much better or not that big of a deal? What's your perspective of the future of this type of processors?
it’s a huge leap for Intel. It has
1. Much better battery efficiency than 13th/14th Gen
2. Good power overall
3. Excellent iGPU perforce, but required higher watts
I think Intel needs to find a way to let us easily disable cores since doing so will allow for equal or better iGPU performance on even lower watts. This would make the core ultra viable in handhelds
As it stands. The core ultra is quite good in laptops however
Which laptop is better i7 13620H, 16 GB RAM with RTX 4060 or Ultra 9 185H, 16 GB RAM and Intel Arc graphics card??
A 4060 will massively outperform an iGPU
@@TechGuyBeau could u please give a comparison between intel arc graphics and the graphics cards in the market
Hey man loved ur detailed review🔥 Can u do the same for the ultra 7 155h. Most mid range laptops are equipped with this. It will great help to a lot of us. Thank you❤
Yeah I just tests a lg gram with 155h. But it’s a lower wattage option so I’m going to see if I can get a normal wattage 155h laptop
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks a lot man. Most laptops come in the 30 to 35 watts range. Something in this range would be ideal
can you do video uhd 770 14900k overclock max multiplier vs intel arc graphics 96EU?
It really wouldn’t be much of a contest, the arc graphics would be 2 to 3 times more capable
9:25 - Please don't overstate the capabilities here. You suggest that the Series X and PS5 "can't achieve" 60fps, meaning these integrated graphics playing 45 fps are somehow more capable than those consoles. Wrong, the PC port simply allows you to set higher frame rates, but does not mean that the consoles are unable to hit that, Rockstar simply has withheld the patch.
No…. I didn’t state that. The consoles also run at 1440/4k
I state that people are accustomed to playing at 45-60fps a lot more then people might think (since pc gamers are often suggesting they need 120+ to be playable)
Please don’t extrapolate things I say. Thanks
@@TechGuyBeau You said, and I quote: "we're playing here at 45 fps, 50% more than you the Series X and PS5 can achieve". That misleads the performance of both the consoles and the laptop. Thanks
@@adams4244 I mean, is that false?
I prefer higher fps over better graphics. Being able to play at 45fps on low graphics is a better experience for me than locked 30fps at higher graphics.
There was no external GPU. Was everything tested on the CPU's onboard GPU?
Do you know if it can run Call of Duty MW3?
Because that's how most people would use it. Getting an external GPU is a very, very niche use case. It only really makes sense if you already have a decent GPU lying around but no PC to put it in. Otherwise by the time you're spending the extra $500+ on enclosure + gpu, why not just get a gaming laptop?
@@Fernando-ek8jp My friend, you didn't answer anything I asked you.
@@Obi-Wand you asked if the video about the on board GPU didn't have an external gpu, so I didn't think that needed a direct response.
I then just added why it doesn't really make much sense to test e-gpu performance for most cases.
How would you say CPU Wise the Core Ultra 9 stacks up against the Core i9 Mobile Parts?
wanna know that as well. I'm considering get a laptop either with the Core Ultra 9 185H or the i9-13900H. Benchmarks are looking close for both.
i9 ( 13900H ) is better but its less efficient and worse igpu .
my dumbass was looking at the 1% lows instead of the actual framerate, but the framerate being so close to the 1% low talks about a lotta stable framerate which is quite nice as well
Why is there no RUclipsrs who are testing Minecraft Java on this?
How much ram is in the laptop? And this is running just on the arc GPU?
Mine is 32gb. And yes
I wonder how would starfield run with frame generation on and fsr 3
How does this compare to the 780m?
Its good to see Witcher at 40 FPS The game looks and performs way more better than a PS4
whats the battery backup of this 185h arc version has
How did I setup wattage on the core ultra series cpus
mind pretty blown. I read this can do ray tracing, you should have enabled it just for the lols.
The desktop Intel arc can do RT quite well. Laptop lack the power to pull it off unless you really lowered the res. But yeah it can do it theoretically
Would the Huawei mate x pro 2024 be good for gaming?
Specs?
@@TechGuyBeau latest Huawei mate x pro 2024 intel low power series 9 with arc igpu capable of 40 watts with 32gb ram
the video card in this processor loses 25% to the 3050, and it is already 3 years old, so there is no point in buying a laptop without a video card for gaming@@markaznar1979
When's that slim 5 gen 9 review cominn
I’m working on it at the moment actually. Just finished getting my footage and using it long enough to come up with some conclusions
Them Intel juice guzzlers... KEK
Oh for sure. Fine in a a laptop. Can be rip in a handheld
please make a complete review of this device
I already did
@@TechGuyBeau i actually found the full review of 125h with arc not the full video of this 185h one can you tell which one
Is it better than a R7 780M for games?
No. But it’s still good
a 185h is less than 10% more powerful in single core than an 8845hs and far less powerful in battery life ... all this in laptops 300-400$ more expensive...
Sir does lenevo ideapad pro 5 14 oled support windows studio effect in webcam because it has ultra series cpu with dedicated npu .And other variant of this laptop like slim i or ideapad 5i support windows studio effect.
Is this better than 890M GPU?
Not even close
which laptop are u using ?
Lenovo Yoga 9i pro 2024
@@TechGuyBeau u mean 24?
@@TechGuyBeau Buddy, it seems like you love the Lenovo others
@@TechGuyBeau is the fan noise loud ? I heard its quiet when u playing games on balanced mode like 35db said dave2d what do you say?
this is 7nm...surprised its this quick...
Great performance " ( 40-45 fps on medium low settings the processor is garbage
Well yes, and if you're an actual gamer you should never play like this. But the point is that the integrated graphics are good enough that a casual user is unlikely to need a dedicated GPU.
"30 fps on consels"
****2013 condels****
Man i had the 155H and it was pretty disappointing that all those cores were shitting themselves under two vms.
I had it too mate, HP Omen transcend 14, but the cpu was neither fast nor efficient, so I returned it and got myself a Legion 5 Slim with 7840HS instead. Much better in every aspect.
Every manufacture today says all their laptops are GAMING LAPTOPS, even if they are complete JUNK, you can decent a skunk but its DNA is still a skunk.
Unlike PC's where you can upgrade parts - their is 3 main parts in a laptop that can never be altered, they are generally not changeable parts. The Screen / CPU / GPU, so always spend maximum you can afford and get the best of the best of those 3 parts. storage / ram can add those upgrade those any time so its no issue, same with other parts of laptop, those 3 never can be changed typically, so want to purchase the best of the best you can afford of those 3 parts when buying a laptop to last you the longest time. this is the #1 mistake all laptop people fail at to acknowledge the 3 main parts in laptop purchases, regardless of marketing or label's on them.