💵 Save money on your next gaming laptop with our daily deals: gaminglaptop.deals Check Prices 👇 ASUS Zephyrus G16 (AMD): geni.us/ASUS-G16-AMD ASUS Zephyrus G16 (Intel): geni.us/ASUS-G16 Corrections: In the Cinebench graph at 3:20 the 25W value for AMD was used instead of the 35W value, as seen earlier in the power scaling graph. This is because I was originally going to do the video at 25W and 80W but found out that wasn't possible later and went to 35W instead. This only happened in Cinebench when I was getting initial results and realized I couldn't sustain the AMD laptop at 25W indefinitely with only the ASUS software.
Sir, I saw your video on if you find a good deal go for it so I have bought a HP omen 16 gaming laptop with an rtx 4050(120 watt) and i5-13420H and 16 GB of ddr5 ram for only $550 on microcenter. You think it's a good deal?
Naming schemes aside, AMD is doing exactly what I want to see in the mobile CPU space - a higher performance CPU with great efficiency, iGPU performance, great battery life and great power scaling at lower CPU wattages.
AMD won't get cut through even with clearly better CPUs if Intel are desperate enough to cut prices and continue doing deals. I've hardly ever seen an AMD laptop on sale ever. The all AMD alienware M18 (7945hx/7900M) is probably the best I've seen but that was such a short run I blinked and missed it 😢
I was an Intel user for over 12 years, and I switched to the AMD platform in recent years, which is faster, cooler, and longer in either AMD's CPU or mobiles.
This guy's review are so much detailed yet easy to understand. He also is not biased. I would 100% trust his videos to buy a laptop. Can't imagine how much time and efforts it takes to make videos these detailed.
I totally agreed. 3 years ago I watched so many Jerrod 's videos before buying 2 Legion Pro 5 and 1 5 Slim for my family. I am still very satisfied with the purchase. Th details of his tests are simply unrivaled. Thank you Jerrod.
I heard intel desinged lunar like that it can not be paired with a dgpu. So its impossible to use them for gaming laptops only very small devices. The lower arrow lake will probably go into the new zephyrus next year.
@@Smiles216 Correct. Lunar Lake only puts out 8 PCIe lanes, four of these are Gen 5, and the other four are Gen 4. So , 4 lanes for the dGPU, another 4 for NVME storage . No way that dGPU can run optimally on 4 PCIe lanes.. Lunar Lake is a replacement for Intel 'U' series CPU . H and HS series will be replaced with Arrow Lake mobile.
Nice work on the comparison, but I noticed a bit of a mistake where the AMD CPU was compared at 25W against the Intel CPU at 35W. You’ve got the AMD CPU scoring 881 at 25W and 1041 at 35W around 2:32, but then at 3:20, it’s shown as 881 at 35W, which is off. This mix-up could affect your other points about efficiency and value, so it might be worth a quick correction.
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM - Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
RUclips is planning to start running ads while paused so maybe don’t speed through graphs and tell the viewer to pause in the future (instead give a timecode to skip ahead)
That the Ryzen iGPU can almost touch 60fps at 1080 high, I assume without upscaling...very impressive. Having said that, that bar chart from Intel showing the HX370 reaching only 30s at medium... EDIT: To clarify, I was referring about Cyberpunk 2077.
The intel model has an issue where it is unable to switch back to the integrated graphics unless you restart. I purchased 3 intel G16s, all new, and had the same issue. I tried all software fixes you can think of and the issue was only consistent with the USA intel model. In the end, i paid more and got the AMD version and its been excellent.
I have an AMD laptop with the same issue, it'll switch to the iGPU when disconnected from power but the dGPU will remain on until restart (and will turn on after next restart even if still on battery). The only workaround I found was using hibernate, which registers as a restart for the machine, but doesn't lose work.
@@HunterTracks What if you set power profile to whisper only for it to use iGPU, does it keep the dGPU disabled/powered off until you manually change to optimized power profile?
@JarrodsTech eagerly waiting for that video to drop. While you are at it can also compare built in encoders for both Ai300 and Ultra series 2? I have seen a few comparisons which show that Intel's Quick Sync absolutely destroys AMD In video timeline scrubbing and rendering. So it'll great if you add that into your New Comparison video
problem with AMD is availability. OEMs offer variety of intel models from 12th to 14th gen cpu even it is 2024. Meanwhile AMD models are always out of stock.
getting 10-3% higher performance while having almost half the battery life is considered "beating" to you? also apply undevolts to both cpu's and the performance of both cpu's would be the same.
@@stalememe6407 i am talking about pure performance, there are more cpus that have better power efficiency than the 2 in the video. go use a HS processor. 10-3%? did you even check the scores? 7945HX has double the cinebench multicore score than 185h. no amount of undervolting can do that. get your facts straight first
@@stalememe6407 go watch the video on 13980hx vs 7945hx. the power scaling is way better for amd at every single wattage. i just dont see how 7945hx is half battery life of 13980hx
I know I've said it before, but I'll happily say it again. As a massive fan of In Flames, it's so great to see yet another Jesterhead rocking the t-shirts
excellent review. I was torn between these exact two laptops but opted to go for the AMD. Despite the similar cooling setup, I noticed the AMD one had significantly lower fan noise. Also, the AMD one has a dedicated function lock which for me, was very important.
Just don't use Crossmark and MATLAB. For Bapco benchmarks (including Crossmark), the sole contributor for their CPU benchmark is Intel. As for MATLAB, I believe is not that they want to favor Intel, but since by default they were using a proven libraries from Intel then it is what it is. Yes, the library is basically discriminating against non Intel CPU. On non Intel hardware, you need to tweak MATLAB so it doesn't use Intel libraries. Basically, just don't use Bapco product (in this case Crossmark) for benchmark and people that don't use MATLAB can safely ignore that benchmark since in real life running MATLAB on AMD system can be made faster. Personally I will throw these 2 benchmarks to the bin.
Please do the gaming tests in Windows 10 & Disable Core Isolation. Microsoft has been playing favorites recently, with at least with the more than 8 core CPUs on new AMD CPU`s - the performance differences are tangible....
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM - Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM - Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM - Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
Pinned comment updated. The power scaling score is correct, I accidentally put the 25W into the Cinebench graph because I was originally going to use a 25W/80W split when making the video but changed it after making that first graph.
Why expecting Lunar Lake on gaming laptop?? Lunar Lake is exclusively for thin and light ultrabook/notebook and it is never meant for gaming or high performance laptops. I guess only Arrow Lake mobile CPU is the only option for gaming laptop from team blue. Edited (Added explanation): Lunar Lake platform is a System-on-Chip (SoC) which consists of CPU+GPU+RAM which is mainly designed for extreme power efficiency and is meant for thin and light Ultrabook. I don't think Lunar Lake will ever be paired with any dedicated GPU, and this makes the upcoming Arrow Lake mobile CPU the only option for gaming laptop. Lunar Lake is meant to compete with other SoC like Apple's M series and Snapdragon Elite, etc.
A lot of people ignored that fact said by Intel itself. But i don't blame them, Intel has been building insane hype over Lunar Lake being a revolution for x86, so people may think the aechitecture is capable of more than thin and light laptops.
@@AnkitPuniaFX wait for amds next cpus. That argument goes on forever. A 2x generational uplift is unheard of. Lunar lake is mostly a change in fab. The ecores look like they may be a significant improvement but at the lower tdps other parts of the cpu package become the major consumers of power so i find intels claims of over 2x to be desperate nonsense.
@@danielrouw2593 Isn't it smart to compare the latest from Team Blue and Team Red? I'm not a fanboy, but I need to pick between Intel and Mac for productivity (though I'll wait on Apple until I can afford it).
Excellent work. This is a good way to review gaming laptops: actual efficiency comparisons that include different power limits. Would like to see a little portion added that includes day to day livability, like whats the power draw if you close the lid and leave it overnight.
Looking at the gaming performance of AMD's iGPU, I'm interested in comparing the gaming performance with 80W CPU+iGPU with a 35W power limited CPU + 45W dGPU (if limiting the dGPU's power that low is even possible).
A 45W 3050 will still be 15% better on average due to much greater memory bandwidth. AMD iGPUs can never beat modern dGPUs unless they solve the memory bandwidth issue by adding infinity cache. AMD's best iGPU still can't beat their worst dGPU (of same generation).
It's a desktop CPU soldered on to laptop mobo. It's only available in a few thick gaming laptops. It also has terrible battery life due to not being monolithic.
Why on Earth would you waste time testing (and comparing against AMD's latest high-end mobile CPU) a Meteor Lake laptop when Lunar Lake is out, with supposedly significant improvements, especially on iGPU?
Expect significantly lower single core and multi-core benchmarks with Lunar Lake compared to Ryzen HX 370. Gaming should be be competitive, however, and battery life even better on Lunar.
One thing that's interesting about Strix Point is the fact that AMD's curve optimiser works on ASUS laptops, both with G-Helper and universal x86 tuning utility, which has given me upwards of 10% better multi-core performance at anything below 60W because it allows the Zen5c cores to hit their max boost clock of 3.3GHz at anything above 45W while the Zen5 cores managed to boost above 4.7GHz all core at 60W+ power limit. This was on the TUF A14, so I'd expect the better cooling of the Zephyrus to perform a bit better than the A14 thanks to lower temps.
@@avetruetocaesar3463 no news about curve shaper or Ryzen Master coming to laptops, but if you happen to buy an ASUS Zen5 laptop, I highly recommend G-helper instead of Armoury Crate and most of the rest of ASUS' bloatware, it controls everything from curve optimiser to CPU and GPU power and GPU OC as well as the fan curve and a bunch of other options while consuming absolutely no resources. And that's already a great start, I got my HX370 to go 4.8GHz+3.3GHz in most workloads while plugged in and reduce total system power consumption below 5W while on battery. Some aspects of the software are clunky, given it's entirely open source, but it's been a great boon so far.
AMD is clearly better in most metrics and people will still buy the intel version more. People don't deserve nice things, it's clear that we prefer monopolies.
Or it's just that people aren't well informed and lack the knowledge to care about just a computer. People also generally go with what's "safer" and more comfortable, which is often Intel because of their earlier tactics against AMD.
@@Zxanonblade the new intel chip is actually not terrible but if you're looking for light thin and cool go for amd. having dgpu is recipe for higher temps so dont go expecting it to be cool with one.
@@ProfestionalCrayonEater Uhh... I never said anything about the chips though? Maybe you responded to the wrong comment but I wasn't saying anything about either Intel or AMD's chips, more just why people will still pick Intel despite AMD being better in most cases.
Jesus Christ, the iGPU difference is nuts!!!! Great to see Ryzen has fixed its gaming frame stability in 1% lows this time. Though it's a shame we likely won't see gaming ultrabooks with Lunar Lake. Strix Point might be the thin and light power user champ for 2025 too.
@@ehtasam2080not a thing yet but it's in development. Unironically though, Medusa halo is being developed also and should launch around the same time as arrow lake halo expect that Medusa halo is projected to perform around a 5070-5080 mobile so intel Will get crushed
The gap between RDNA 3 and Alchemist is massive. The Arc A770 and RX7600XT are built on the same TSMC 6nm node, they have roughly the same performance, but here is the catch: the A770 uses 400mm^2 silicon while the RX7600XT uses only half of that at 200mm^2.
AMD keeping SMT on the E-cores was a brilliant move. Edit: this is a reply to people under who think different "marketing" architecture names actually mean different actual micro architectures. Learn to read kids!
@@MusaM8 Isn't that not 'efficiency'? Just because they are only gimped in clock speeds and L3 cache, rather than features, clock speeds and cache. The HX470 efficiency cores has half the L3 cache and is shared with 50% more cores over their P- cores
@@Dazzxpit’s probably better to refer to them as compact cores rather than efficiency cores because these share the same architecture. It’s something Intel can’t say the same with.
@@JarrodsTech Of course. Realistically, if you should have "waited" for anything, it would be Arrow Lake mobile, which is probably not coming out until CES 2025. Keep up the good work!
I really want to see a comparison between the newer lunar lake cpus whenever they release with these amd ai chips. It's only fair since the gen 1 core ultra chips have been out for a while now.
I own a lenovo yoga 9i with 185h processor. Almost perfect device, but unfortunately I need to connect it to two 4k displays. While connected, 4k video decoding on youtube spikes igpu to 100% and around 40-50% frames are dropped. Without external monitors being connected no video decoding issues, perfect playback.
All that is great but I was happy with the performance of my CPU for like 5 generations. All I want is more efficiency and it could increase way further, especially in the mobile GPU range. I currently have an Ultra 9 185HX and Im pretty happy, tho that is 99% due to the almost perfect Yoga pro 9i.
One thing worth noting on these particular Asus Zephyrus models and when comparing them: not only does the amount of RAM differ, you really should check wether your version has the OLED display or IPS.
Hi, could you please give me a recommendation? I have $1000 for a gaming laptop and I'm looking for something with an I7 or Ryzen 7 with a 4060 and that has good battery life, performance and durability. Victus, LOQ, MSI. If you can answer me, I would appreciate it.❤
I just don't trust Intel anymore. AMD is not the saint too. Even though both laptops are nearly identical, I would probably opt for the AMD one. Intel's long-standing market dominance has led to operating systems and many programs being better optimized for its architecture. AMD has a chance to take down Nvidia with their strategy. Having handhelds and consoles running their chips. Therefore, games will run much better on their GPUs in the near future. But back to the video. Both laptops are really great. A decade ago, or even just five years back, the idea of gaming on these thin laptops was unimaginable.
@@JarrodsTech Why tho? They don't compete with each other. A more sensible comparison would be either LNL against Kraken, or Strix Point against Arrow Lake H, when they are released of course.
@@antalpoti???? What is this logic. This is their best current so obviously that's what should be compared. With your logic, when Intel releases it's new igpu, i can just say "that's a bad comparison, you should do it vs (insert even future unreleased amd igpu that will obviously be better)"
The 680m and 780m are such a blessing for mobile gamers. The iris XE is 4 years old, and is the successor to the *shudders Intel UHD. I'm so happy we could move on from that.
Those Intel-problems with 13th and 14th gen: is that desktop only or laptop processors too? At work (so: no gaming at all), HP lets us choose between Intel U5-125U and AMD Ryzen 5 7535U. Their respective PassMark CPU scores are 17784/3387 (MT/single thread) and 17048/3216. That makes Intel 4.3%/5.3% faster and 6.3% more expensive. Are the recent problems reason to leave Intel and go AMD for a few years?
Nice comparison, though IIRC, you can use UXTU to core offset the 370 and it's iGPU, to get even more performance. Alas the Intel chip is locked down. I do think this is definitely a win for AMD here.
Now you go tell Lenovo to please make a Ryzen AI 2-in-1 in the first place and then also offer a 32GB variant. Currently only the Lenovo Yoga 7i (i stands for Intel) has a 32GB RAM option. The Yoga 7 (nothing stands for AMD) with the 8000 series only has a 16GB variant. Lenovo currently has a very confusing lineup. They almost always have other differences besides just the CPU being AMD or Intel. I get the feeling there is some kickback stuff involved there. As another example, you can only get certain screen (eg high-res OLED) on the Intel machines despite other manufacturers having AMD with similar displays so it is not a technical limitation.
Jarrod, could we get a comparison between the RTX 3050 4gb versus the new RTX 3050 6gb? On the desktop side RTX 3050 got a downgrade with its 6gb version, I think it’d be good to know if the 6gb laptop 3050 (hopefully) either has equal performance to the original with 2gb more vram or better performance.
Thanks for the vid. What about drivers, support and compatibility? Things like high load on data transfer with a USB C/thunderbolt 4 to Ethernet dongle. OC potential at the higher end of stable. Utilization of other components like RAM, Storage, GPU with different CPUs when they are under multiple loads.
I have 155H laptop and it's a miserable trash. It can perform well only in 50+W with temperatures over 90 celsius constantly. Drivers were absoluttely terrible until August but even since GPU performance in real games is a garbage. The only scenario core ultra is good for - watch RUclips and work with text, including coding if your target framework is not CPU-hungry. Do not buy intel, it's a moneywaste.
This is an absolute bloodbath 😂 Also since when did iGPUs run games like cyberpunk at 1080p high @ 60fps?! That’s mental. It doesn’t feel that long ago I was trying trying to run Skyrim 720p low at like 25fps
Nvidia could use the extra 15 watts. AMD seems to max out, or as good as it matters, at 65 watts. Which means if you cap it around 65 Watts, it will still beat an Intel CPU at 80 or 85 Watts... That's not a good look. Obviously I would never run that particular AMD CPU above 65 Watts after watching your chart. Which would increase a little bit battery time on anything that's demanding, though it probably wouldn't change the battery time for RUclips video. It also means it gives me 15 to 20 watts to work with on the GPU side of the thing. An Nvidia does do better with the higher wattage or TDP. Those 20 watts might actually be of use on that 4070
The new Ryzen CPU is so good, but also so expensive. A bottom spec TUF A14 is 571 dollars cheaper than a top spec one where I live. I cheaped out, and honestly, the Ryzen 7 8845HS is plenty for me.
IMO, this comparison isn't fair. 370HX vs ultra 9 285HX. I would really like to know the need for comparing a year old chip with AMD's latest one. Had it been the opposite, I would have said the same. Being a content creator, be ethical with the things that you do.
Why does ASUS always have monopoly on new laptop CPU launches in spite of the flak for having a shitty RMA system? I feel reviewers cannot conscionably recommend ASUS or Intel (degraded CPU issues) until their fundamental issues are resolved.
after so many years i brought AMD again , it's overrated . power saving are bullshit , i can't even work for 5 hours with 70whr battery at power saving mode. next laptop i sure go for Intel , the benchmark most of time are cheated result . and it's lacking so obvious when i using right click at Win 11 desktop , integrate GPU are very lousy , it's keep lacking even using Performance mode . i don't have this problem with Intel so call lousy GPU .
Occurs to me I've been watching your videos a bit more than a year now (having first heard about the channel from Tim and Steve on HUB). I like what you're doing - Its "boring"... In the sense that you've stayed focused squarely on the hardware/topics you cover. I prefer that style - I want to know about whatever is being reviewed/discussed without wasting half the video on extraneous nonsense. Guys spending time inventing new skits for every video or scripting another lame "adult" joke accomplish nothing towards improving the review itself - I'm not 16 anymore and haven't been in a long time. Obviously tech channels have been successful doing "crazy" videos - That style simply isn't for me anymore.
@JarrodsTech I have a P16 Proart with HX370 with an RTX 4060, should I get the same 10+ battery life for wifi video playback like the G16 HX370 in this video?
Hey what is best laptop please compare this msi raider 18 hx i9 14900hx vs 7945hx because 7945hx has good benchmark score then why I am go to the i9 14900hx any special that this processor please help not on video RUclips platforms for 7945hx vs i9 14900hx which one is better' using price comparison
Is the intel ultra 9 185h a safer option than i9-13900hx? I'm planning to buy a laptop so I would appreciate your help on this. Amd powered laptops are not many where I'm from so I might have to settle for intel
Intel is going blitzkrieg on AMD for low price consumer laptops. Intel got HP, Asus, and Acer to pull all AMD models out of BJ's stores and stock only Intel laptops.
The power efficiency did you check wattages at the wall or just the change to each wattage in BIOS? Anandtech have a test with desktop cpus, 7950x set @ 105watt draw the same power as 13900k set @ 125w at the wall for example, Intel still get beat though :D
Windows 11 is why the heck still slowing down AMD Performance... If you would do the same test in Windows 10, I bet all games perform better on AMD, cause in Windows 10 this Intel Preference hasn't occured
These new AMD cpu's are so good, glad to see massive power efficiency gains and battery life performance from x86 parts When the Lunar lake stuff comes out, would also be nice to get a similar video comparing the HX370 to the 288v, from early first party benchmarks it looks a lot more competitive
It's been a while since we've had a CPU comparison. Although the only thing I dislike about either of these is that due to most of its components being internal, upgradeability goes down the drain.
Matlab is probably checking processor name and if it isn't Intel, not enabling SSE/AVX vectorisation. No reason intel should beat AMD by 30% unless they've fucked up somehow.
Hey Jarrod! If im not mistaken, based on what Hardware Canucks tested, Asus has biased tendency towards intel cpu. Somehow in same laptop model, intel cpu always got lower result compared to AMD based one. Especially in synthetic benchmark. If you don't mind i will leave the comparison video link below
Why are using Intel naming style of P & E for AMD Zen & ZenC? ZenC is not an E core, it's a full fledged Zen core made more compact . Are you implying your audience is too dumb to understand the difference?
Where? All the CPU benchmark graphs list 4Z5+8Z5C (which let's be real, is a bit of a mess to people who have never heard of Zen 5c). If you mean during the specs, I guess it was an oversight, but still but of a weird comment when I clearly use AMD's terminology for the majority of the video.
@@JarrodsTech true you did only use it in the list of specs. You didn't use it through out your video. I guess I'm just used to that most once using the wrong term continue to through out a video. Sorry for lumping you in with everyone else, not fair to you. It was a good video and comparison.
The review was very informative. You covered not only the comparison of two comparable laptops, you also offered different power levels to simulate different configurations. Thank you.
Hi Jarrod, is the CP2077 igpu test correct? I'm asking because RX6600, a desktop gpu that gets around 60fps on that game, 1080p high and native res no fsr If that fps number is indeed correct thats freaking impressive tbh
I couldn't find any information of release date of next generation amd laptops(9000th series). Do you have any idea when new amd laptops will be released?Cuz i dont wanna go with intel 14th gen or ryzen 7000th
1080p high at 60fps on cyberpunk is actually crazy on an integrated gpu. amd is just in a league of its own as far as igpu is concerned, can't wait for strix halo to drop, also z2 extreme handhelds will probably use the same rx890m
Waiting on your Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2024) Review with the 4090. I feel as if you have compared almost all other comparable laptop in that range. Would be interesting to see how it holds up.
Interested to see if we can get similar configurations with Lunar Lake as you've done with Meteor Lake and Strix so that could be an upcoming video as well.
Lunar like well only have four pcie lens going to the graphics card and the other four will go to the nvme drive so it will not be available in any gaming laptop because it cannot support a dedicated GPU
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br ? Well there are dGPU-less Strix laptops like Zenbook S16 or the Vivobook S14. The difficult part is getting similar laptop configurations for both SoCs
Solid review, but i do want to comment as a awkward laptop user, its a comparison of the highest end but its strange with amd's 4+8 and intels 6+10 so i would like to see a simple 4+8 limit on the intel CPU as interesting things might happen, (e.g E-cores typically drain P-core voltage often resulting into better boost on intel) will it change who wins? unlikely, I also have the habit of disabling HT / SMT because i dont like the idea of running 2 processes jamming into 1 lane, i would rather just have the single lane at full speed, its my niche, but seems to save a bit on battery and have less general variability, but im weird, this is how i set my things up. Not here to say this are things you should test, would just be interesting to see though, i prioritize battery for laptops and personally sleep states didnt seem to like my AMD systems, my 13th gen lasts at least a week on sleep but thats down to many other things too i guess.
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Corrections:
In the Cinebench graph at 3:20 the 25W value for AMD was used instead of the 35W value, as seen earlier in the power scaling graph. This is because I was originally going to do the video at 25W and 80W but found out that wasn't possible later and went to 35W instead. This only happened in Cinebench when I was getting initial results and realized I couldn't sustain the AMD laptop at 25W indefinitely with only the ASUS software.
Sir please do a Versus comparision
G16 Amd vs lenovo legion 7i
Also value for price please❤
The wrong CPU is one that is ARM based
This is a fantastic video, THANK YOU!
If you can, consider comparing Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Would love to see the performance difference
Sir, I saw your video on if you find a good deal go for it so I have bought a HP omen 16 gaming laptop with an rtx 4050(120 watt) and i5-13420H and 16 GB of ddr5 ram for only $550 on microcenter. You think it's a good deal?
Naming schemes aside, AMD is doing exactly what I want to see in the mobile CPU space - a higher performance CPU with great efficiency, iGPU performance, great battery life and great power scaling at lower CPU wattages.
I'm just glad there's more improvement compared to what Zen 5 offers on the desktop side!
@@JarrodsTechDesktop CPUs having a Zen 5% moment. 😂
AMD won't get cut through even with clearly better CPUs if Intel are desperate enough to cut prices and continue doing deals. I've hardly ever seen an AMD laptop on sale ever. The all AMD alienware M18 (7945hx/7900M) is probably the best I've seen but that was such a short run I blinked and missed it 😢
@@greebj depends on where you live i guess and the store offering the sale. In Canada, they go on sale every couple of weeks lol
Lunar lake cant wait
You can actually get FPS in Civ6... the graphics test gives you a frame time, then you can do some math to convert that to FPS.
FPS tests in Civ6 are irrelevant. Both of these laptops will get enough. What matters more is AI turn time.
I am blown away by AMD's processor integrated graphics.
I was an Intel user for over 12 years, and I switched to the AMD platform in recent years, which is faster, cooler, and longer in either AMD's CPU or mobiles.
Don't forget 12 hrs of youtube
@@clarkisaac6372AMD is longer?
Only took them 2 decades after buying ATI to finally make good APU's lmao
@@GewelReal Talking about the battery-life perhaps
This guy's review are so much detailed yet easy to understand. He also is not biased. I would 100% trust his videos to buy a laptop. Can't imagine how much time and efforts it takes to make videos these detailed.
I totally agreed. 3 years ago I watched so many Jerrod 's videos before buying 2 Legion Pro 5 and 1 5 Slim for my family. I am still very satisfied with the purchase. Th details of his tests are simply unrivaled. Thank you Jerrod.
I dont have money to buy this kind of a device but still decided to watch😪😂.
just steal it my man
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@@snake2106 i am Greek. 😎
@@snake2106 low
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Finally, Jarrod appeared with most anticipated comparison, thank you sir.
No problem!
Beware!! He compared latest AMD chips with last year's intel chips.
@@AnkitPuniaFXWhat should he have compared it with then?
@@danal8246theres literally an intel launch in like 5 days. arrow lake i believe? theyll need to redo this video
@@danal8246 Waited for a week for fair comparison?
Do you want him to compare latest ryzen with core 2 duo next time?
With Lunar Lake releasing in 4 days, it would be really interesting to see the comparison between the 288V/268V vs the HX 370/365 :)
I don’t think it will compete for the reasons covered in the lunar lake timestamp, but I am working on an iGPU comparison with it now
I heard intel desinged lunar like that it can not be paired with a dgpu. So its impossible to use them for gaming laptops only very small devices. The lower arrow lake will probably go into the new zephyrus next year.
@@Smiles216 Correct. Lunar Lake only puts out 8 PCIe lanes, four of these are Gen 5, and the other four are Gen 4. So , 4 lanes for the dGPU, another 4 for NVME storage . No way that dGPU can run optimally on 4 PCIe lanes.. Lunar Lake is a replacement for Intel 'U' series CPU . H and HS series will be replaced with Arrow Lake mobile.
8 cores, no hyper threading, it would get stomped.
For gaming laptops, arrow lake is going to be used instead of lunar lake. Coming probably in October
Nice work on the comparison, but I noticed a bit of a mistake where the AMD CPU was compared at 25W against the Intel CPU at 35W. You’ve got the AMD CPU scoring 881 at 25W and 1041 at 35W around 2:32, but then at 3:20, it’s shown as 881 at 35W, which is off. This mix-up could affect your other points about efficiency and value, so it might be worth a quick correction.
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
I have noticed it too.
I REALLY wish they offered the AMD flavor with a 4080 mobile.... only the Intel options have it.
Idk why but your reviews & Comparison videos are entertaining and worthy of being watched while eating food
Thanks :D
RUclips is planning to start running ads while paused so maybe don’t speed through graphs and tell the viewer to pause in the future (instead give a timecode to skip ahead)
use adblocker xd or buy youtube premium
@@RubyKaneki oh, I already do both, but this is more an ask for the less tech savvy in the audience
Let them eat the ad, we need time stamps
That the Ryzen iGPU can almost touch 60fps at 1080 high, I assume without upscaling...very impressive. Having said that, that bar chart from Intel showing the HX370 reaching only 30s at medium...
EDIT: To clarify, I was referring about Cyberpunk 2077.
The intel model has an issue where it is unable to switch back to the integrated graphics unless you restart. I purchased 3 intel G16s, all new, and had the same issue. I tried all software fixes you can think of and the issue was only consistent with the USA intel model. In the end, i paid more and got the AMD version and its been excellent.
I have an AMD laptop with the same issue, it'll switch to the iGPU when disconnected from power but the dGPU will remain on until restart (and will turn on after next restart even if still on battery). The only workaround I found was using hibernate, which registers as a restart for the machine, but doesn't lose work.
@@HunterTracks What if you set power profile to whisper only for it to use iGPU, does it keep the dGPU disabled/powered off until you manually change to optimized power profile?
I can't wait for core ultra serie 2 vs AI 300 series. This will be an anime battle🔥🔥
I'm working on an iGPU comparison between those now!
@JarrodsTech eagerly waiting for that video to drop. While you are at it can also compare built in encoders for both Ai300 and Ultra series 2? I have seen a few comparisons which show that Intel's Quick Sync absolutely destroys AMD In video timeline scrubbing and rendering. So it'll great if you add that into your New Comparison video
@@mozzinatorintel quick sync 2 media engines.
8k60 encoding decoding.
208 fps in handbreak.
Faster thsn m1 max m2 max n3 max 180 fps.
@@ehtasam2080 that's what i want jarred to test in depth in his upcoming review of both of these new processors..
@@JarrodsTech can't wait for the best cpu battles in a long time. ♥️
problem with AMD is availability. OEMs offer variety of intel models from 12th to 14th gen cpu even it is 2024. Meanwhile AMD models are always out of stock.
as expected AMD beats intel again. though both lost to 7945HX
And the 13980HX. Meteor Lake is literally worse than Raptor Lake, it is a flop.
getting 10-3% higher performance while having almost half the battery life is considered "beating" to you? also apply undevolts to both cpu's and the performance of both cpu's would be the same.
@@stalememe6407 i am talking about pure performance, there are more cpus that have better power efficiency than the 2 in the video. go use a HS processor. 10-3%? did you even check the scores? 7945HX has double the cinebench multicore score than 185h. no amount of undervolting can do that. get your facts straight first
@@ms9001 Why are you comparing a cpu for thin and lights to a desktop replacement cpu... I was talking about the 13980hx vs 7945hx.
@@stalememe6407 go watch the video on 13980hx vs 7945hx. the power scaling is way better for amd at every single wattage. i just dont see how 7945hx is half battery life of 13980hx
I know I've said it before, but I'll happily say it again. As a massive fan of In Flames, it's so great to see yet another Jesterhead rocking the t-shirts
@4:39, they use different fans between AMD and Intel
excellent review. I was torn between these exact two laptops but opted to go for the AMD. Despite the similar cooling setup, I noticed the AMD one had significantly lower fan noise. Also, the AMD one has a dedicated function lock which for me, was very important.
Just don't use Crossmark and MATLAB. For Bapco benchmarks (including Crossmark), the sole contributor for their CPU benchmark is Intel. As for MATLAB, I believe is not that they want to favor Intel, but since by default they were using a proven libraries from Intel then it is what it is. Yes, the library is basically discriminating against non Intel CPU. On non Intel hardware, you need to tweak MATLAB so it doesn't use Intel libraries.
Basically, just don't use Bapco product (in this case Crossmark) for benchmark and people that don't use MATLAB can safely ignore that benchmark since in real life running MATLAB on AMD system can be made faster. Personally I will throw these 2 benchmarks to the bin.
Please do the gaming tests in Windows 10 & Disable Core Isolation. Microsoft has been playing favorites recently, with at least with the more than 8 core CPUs on new AMD CPU`s - the performance differences are tangible....
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
I really hope Lenovo will release Legion 7 gen 9 with amd processor
09:30 I think you accidently gave the Intel CPU the frames of AMDs CPU @1080p in this chart.
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
@@YTech_xp yes
@@Oneath but the rtx 4080 tgp is only 115W, not 175
@@YTech_xp well high settings + DLSS Quality without RT should be working just fine in every game so far...
Yeah, nope. Not risking with amd again for video work. QuickSync is king.
Can't disagree there, especially if you have one of the newer Arc igpus that also have AV1 encoding
2:43 hx370 35W TDP 1041 score
3:25 hx370 35W TDP 881 score
there a mistake???
Seems likely
I saw the same . Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W.
also the performance per watt 4:02 on 35W hx370 should wrong.
ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?
Pinned comment updated. The power scaling score is correct, I accidentally put the 25W into the Cinebench graph because I was originally going to use a 25W/80W split when making the video but changed it after making that first graph.
Intel is horribly atrocious, it only achieves similar performance at 65 watts while amd only need 35, that is just crazy
It's so rare to get a complete apples to apples comparison like this with the exact same model of laptop, this is awesome, thank you!
Yay great testing Jarrod.
I just love the HX370. But I'm really looking forward to the Core Ultra 2 Series aswell :D
Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W.
3:25 AMD AI370 @ 35W 881 score which is lower than 2:43 .
Working on that now :)
@@vmafarah9473 The Core Ultra 200 just a way more efficiently than
@@alderlake12th . Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W. The comparison on 3:25 was a mistake.
@@vmafarah9473 The 200V is way efficiently than the 100H
200V can't match hx370 cause the core count
AMD at 45W gives more performance compare to intel 90W 😳
Thank you for your efforts. I'll be on the market for a laptop in the next 60 days and your videos have been helpful in my research.
Why expecting Lunar Lake on gaming laptop?? Lunar Lake is exclusively for thin and light ultrabook/notebook and it is never meant for gaming or high performance laptops. I guess only Arrow Lake mobile CPU is the only option for gaming laptop from team blue.
Edited (Added explanation): Lunar Lake platform is a System-on-Chip (SoC) which consists of CPU+GPU+RAM which is mainly designed for extreme power efficiency and is meant for thin and light Ultrabook. I don't think Lunar Lake will ever be paired with any dedicated GPU, and this makes the upcoming Arrow Lake mobile CPU the only option for gaming laptop. Lunar Lake is meant to compete with other SoC like Apple's M series and Snapdragon Elite, etc.
A lot of people ignored that fact said by Intel itself. But i don't blame them, Intel has been building insane hype over Lunar Lake being a revolution for x86, so people may think the aechitecture is capable of more than thin and light laptops.
if you watched the video, the gap in performance gets worse at the low end. AMD will be nearly twice the performance in thin and light envelopes.
@@danielrouw2593 Wait for intel's latest processors which launched recently.
@@AnkitPuniaFX wait for amds next cpus. That argument goes on forever. A 2x generational uplift is unheard of. Lunar lake is mostly a change in fab. The ecores look like they may be a significant improvement but at the lower tdps other parts of the cpu package become the major consumers of power so i find intels claims of over 2x to be desperate nonsense.
@@danielrouw2593 Isn't it smart to compare the latest from Team Blue and Team Red? I'm not a fanboy, but I need to pick between Intel and Mac for productivity (though I'll wait on Apple until I can afford it).
Excellent work. This is a good way to review gaming laptops: actual efficiency comparisons that include different power limits.
Would like to see a little portion added that includes day to day livability, like whats the power draw if you close the lid and leave it overnight.
Looking at the gaming performance of AMD's iGPU, I'm interested in comparing the gaming performance with 80W CPU+iGPU with a 35W power limited CPU + 45W dGPU (if limiting the dGPU's power that low is even possible).
A 45W 3050 will still be 15% better on average due to much greater memory bandwidth. AMD iGPUs can never beat modern dGPUs unless they solve the memory bandwidth issue by adding infinity cache.
AMD's best iGPU still can't beat their worst dGPU (of same generation).
2:43 hx370 35W TDP 1041 score
3:25 hx370 35W TDP 881 score
there a mistake???
What ever happened to the Ryzen 9 7945HX? Puts both of these CPUs to sleep.
It's a desktop CPU soldered on to laptop mobo. It's only available in a few thick gaming laptops. It also has terrible battery life due to not being monolithic.
Shame Intel bribed nvidia to prevent any AMD laptop using any nvidia chip better than a 4070 :/
I'm proud of you Jarrod.
Been here since the beginning where I was a bit hard on you. You took it in stride and that's why I will never unsubscribe.
185 multiplied by 2 is 370
There you go, get the 370
These CPUs could have much more power if NPU do not take up SOC space.
Why on Earth would you waste time testing (and comparing against AMD's latest high-end mobile CPU) a Meteor Lake laptop when Lunar Lake is out, with supposedly significant improvements, especially on iGPU?
Discussed here:
17:12 What About Intel’s New Lunar Lake?
5:20 AMD at 35W has take same time as intel at 80W 😮
Expect significantly lower single core and multi-core benchmarks with Lunar Lake compared to Ryzen HX 370. Gaming should be be competitive, however, and battery life even better on Lunar.
One thing that's interesting about Strix Point is the fact that AMD's curve optimiser works on ASUS laptops, both with G-Helper and universal x86 tuning utility, which has given me upwards of 10% better multi-core performance at anything below 60W because it allows the Zen5c cores to hit their max boost clock of 3.3GHz at anything above 45W while the Zen5 cores managed to boost above 4.7GHz all core at 60W+ power limit.
This was on the TUF A14, so I'd expect the better cooling of the Zephyrus to perform a bit better than the A14 thanks to lower temps.
Good of you to share this knowledge, thanks. How about the curve shaper? And does Ryzen Master finally work on laptops?
@@avetruetocaesar3463 no news about curve shaper or Ryzen Master coming to laptops, but if you happen to buy an ASUS Zen5 laptop, I highly recommend G-helper instead of Armoury Crate and most of the rest of ASUS' bloatware, it controls everything from curve optimiser to CPU and GPU power and GPU OC as well as the fan curve and a bunch of other options while consuming absolutely no resources. And that's already a great start, I got my HX370 to go 4.8GHz+3.3GHz in most workloads while plugged in and reduce total system power consumption below 5W while on battery. Some aspects of the software are clunky, given it's entirely open source, but it's been a great boon so far.
AMD is clearly better in most metrics and people will still buy the intel version more. People don't deserve nice things, it's clear that we prefer monopolies.
Or it's just that people aren't well informed and lack the knowledge to care about just a computer. People also generally go with what's "safer" and more comfortable, which is often Intel because of their earlier tactics against AMD.
@@Zxanonblade the new intel chip is actually not terrible but if you're looking for light thin and cool go for amd. having dgpu is recipe for higher temps so dont go expecting it to be cool with one.
@@ProfestionalCrayonEater Uhh... I never said anything about the chips though? Maybe you responded to the wrong comment but I wasn't saying anything about either Intel or AMD's chips, more just why people will still pick Intel despite AMD being better in most cases.
I happen to be getting a new laptop, but it's got the 8945HS. Still a great chip from what I've heard
Yeah it's pretty good
Jesus Christ, the iGPU difference is nuts!!!! Great to see Ryzen has fixed its gaming frame stability in 1% lows this time. Though it's a shame we likely won't see gaming ultrabooks with Lunar Lake. Strix Point might be the thin and light power user champ for 2025 too.
Strix Halo's iGPU with 256bit memory bus will run circles around Intel mobile CPUs in iGPU test.
@@fleurdewin7958arrow lake halo?
@@ehtasam2080not a thing yet but it's in development. Unironically though, Medusa halo is being developed also and should launch around the same time as arrow lake halo expect that Medusa halo is projected to perform around a 5070-5080 mobile so intel Will get crushed
The gap between RDNA 3 and Alchemist is massive. The Arc A770 and RX7600XT are built on the same TSMC 6nm node, they have roughly the same performance, but here is the catch: the A770 uses 400mm^2 silicon while the RX7600XT uses only half of that at 200mm^2.
@@lharsay 4060 159 mm^2 115w = a770 170 watt 400mm^2
Hope battlemage catches up ada lovelace.
Rdna 3.5 and 4 catched up
shame intel isnt making CPU's like they used to
Arrow Lake mobile comes out in like a couple of months.
AMD keeping SMT on the E-cores was a brilliant move.
Edit: this is a reply to people under who think different "marketing" architecture names actually mean different actual micro architectures. Learn to read kids!
They aren't E-cores, they just can't clock as high.
@@MusaM8 Isn't that not 'efficiency'? Just because they are only gimped in clock speeds and L3 cache, rather than features, clock speeds and cache.
The HX470 efficiency cores has half the L3 cache and is shared with 50% more cores over their P- cores
I love it when AMD keeps Shin Megami Tensei
@@Dazzxpit’s probably better to refer to them as compact cores rather than efficiency cores because these share the same architecture. It’s something Intel can’t say the same with.
they are not e cores,they are cores with low area that have better performance at low power but saturate when feeding high power->better power density
Lunar Lake is a 4+0+4 design intended to compete with the M series from Apple, not Strix Point.
Indeed, but I was right to mention it in the video given how many comments are like "should have waited for LL to make this video".
@@JarrodsTech Of course. Realistically, if you should have "waited" for anything, it would be Arrow Lake mobile, which is probably not coming out until CES 2025. Keep up the good work!
@@12100F arrow lake mobile will be demolished by strix halo
@@rifa.3307 different product segments. not even remotely comparable.
Intel is still dogSHT! 😂
I really want to see a comparison between the newer lunar lake cpus whenever they release with these amd ai chips.
It's only fair since the gen 1 core ultra chips have been out for a while now.
So that's why you tested the 4070 version of the Intel laptop. Amazing job!
I own a lenovo yoga 9i with 185h processor. Almost perfect device, but unfortunately I need to connect it to two 4k displays. While connected, 4k video decoding on youtube spikes igpu to 100% and around 40-50% frames are dropped. Without external monitors being connected no video decoding issues, perfect playback.
All that is great but I was happy with the performance of my CPU for like 5 generations. All I want is more efficiency and it could increase way further, especially in the mobile GPU range. I currently have an Ultra 9 185HX and Im pretty happy, tho that is 99% due to the almost perfect Yoga pro 9i.
One thing worth noting on these particular Asus Zephyrus models and when comparing them: not only does the amount of RAM differ, you really should check wether your version has the OLED display or IPS.
Hi, could you please give me a recommendation? I have $1000 for a gaming laptop and I'm looking for something with an I7 or Ryzen 7 with a 4060 and that has good battery life, performance and durability. Victus, LOQ, MSI. If you can answer me, I would appreciate it.❤
This is an amazing video! Thank you for doing this and going into all the details. I will sub!
is this a good laptop to work as AI engineer?
Asus Zephyrus laptop 16" OLED AMDRyzen AI 9 HX 370 - RTX 4080 - 32GB RAM, 1tb SSD M2 PCIe Nvme
I just don't trust Intel anymore. AMD is not the saint too. Even though both laptops are nearly identical, I would probably opt for the AMD one. Intel's long-standing market dominance has led to operating systems and many programs being better optimized for its architecture. AMD has a chance to take down Nvidia with their strategy. Having handhelds and consoles running their chips. Therefore, games will run much better on their GPUs in the near future. But back to the video. Both laptops are really great. A decade ago, or even just five years back, the idea of gaming on these thin laptops was unimaginable.
I'm I the only one that see AMD laptop..is much more clearer and better look
Especially the keyboard..
I'm I wrong?
Useless AI processors . Need normal fp32, fp64 performance. Nothing to do with int8, int4 tensor product computers
MATLAB uses Intel MKL libraries by default, did you change to AOCL amd libraries before running your tests?
A huge plus is that Intel's iGPU is finally able to compete with AMD's, which is a huge improvement over the old Iris Xe iGPUs.
I'm working on an iGPU comparison between Lunar Lake and this AMD chip now so we'll see :)
@@JarrodsTech Why tho? They don't compete with each other. A more sensible comparison would be either LNL against Kraken, or Strix Point against Arrow Lake H, when they are released of course.
@@antalpoti yeah no, we'll test things that are out now rather than waiting for future.
@@antalpoti???? What is this logic. This is their best current so obviously that's what should be compared. With your logic, when Intel releases it's new igpu, i can just say "that's a bad comparison, you should do it vs (insert even future unreleased amd igpu that will obviously be better)"
The 680m and 780m are such a blessing for mobile gamers. The iris XE is 4 years old, and is the successor to the *shudders Intel UHD.
I'm so happy we could move on from that.
Those Intel-problems with 13th and 14th gen: is that desktop only or laptop processors too?
At work (so: no gaming at all), HP lets us choose between Intel U5-125U and AMD Ryzen 5 7535U. Their respective PassMark CPU scores are 17784/3387 (MT/single thread) and 17048/3216. That makes Intel 4.3%/5.3% faster and 6.3% more expensive. Are the recent problems reason to leave Intel and go AMD for a few years?
Nice comparison, though IIRC, you can use UXTU to core offset the 370 and it's iGPU, to get even more performance. Alas the Intel chip is locked down. I do think this is definitely a win for AMD here.
Now you go tell Lenovo to please make a Ryzen AI 2-in-1 in the first place and then also offer a 32GB variant.
Currently only the Lenovo Yoga 7i (i stands for Intel) has a 32GB RAM option. The Yoga 7 (nothing stands for AMD) with the 8000 series only has a 16GB variant.
Lenovo currently has a very confusing lineup. They almost always have other differences besides just the CPU being AMD or Intel. I get the feeling there is some kickback stuff involved there.
As another example, you can only get certain screen (eg high-res OLED) on the Intel machines despite other manufacturers having AMD with similar displays so it is not a technical limitation.
Jarrod, could we get a comparison between the RTX 3050 4gb versus the new RTX 3050 6gb? On the desktop side RTX 3050 got a downgrade with its 6gb version, I think it’d be good to know if the 6gb laptop 3050 (hopefully) either has equal performance to the original with 2gb more vram or better performance.
Thanks for the vid.
What about drivers, support and compatibility?
Things like high load on data transfer with a USB C/thunderbolt 4 to Ethernet dongle.
OC potential at the higher end of stable.
Utilization of other components like RAM, Storage, GPU with different CPUs when they are under multiple loads.
I have 155H laptop and it's a miserable trash. It can perform well only in 50+W with temperatures over 90 celsius constantly. Drivers were absoluttely terrible until August but even since GPU performance in real games is a garbage. The only scenario core ultra is good for - watch RUclips and work with text, including coding if your target framework is not CPU-hungry. Do not buy intel, it's a moneywaste.
This is an absolute bloodbath 😂
Also since when did iGPUs run games like cyberpunk at 1080p high @ 60fps?! That’s mental.
It doesn’t feel that long ago I was trying trying to run Skyrim 720p low at like 25fps
Nvidia could use the extra 15 watts. AMD seems to max out, or as good as it matters, at 65 watts. Which means if you cap it around 65 Watts, it will still beat an Intel CPU at 80 or 85 Watts... That's not a good look. Obviously I would never run that particular AMD CPU above 65 Watts after watching your chart. Which would increase a little bit battery time on anything that's demanding, though it probably wouldn't change the battery time for RUclips video. It also means it gives me 15 to 20 watts to work with on the GPU side of the thing. An Nvidia does do better with the higher wattage or TDP. Those 20 watts might actually be of use on that 4070
The new Ryzen CPU is so good, but also so expensive. A bottom spec TUF A14 is 571 dollars cheaper than a top spec one where I live. I cheaped out, and honestly, the Ryzen 7 8845HS is plenty for me.
new laptops are always expensive. give it another 6 months for prices to come down :)
How muvh ud the diffetence betewen Ultra 9 285 H and Ultra 7 155H? I 've found an offer on Asus Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 below 1000 $.
Maybe comparation of Thinpad p16 gen 2 NVIDIA RTX 5000 Ada 16GB with razor blade 16 and lenovo i9 maxed out because i am wondering what to buy?
IMO, this comparison isn't fair. 370HX vs ultra 9 285HX.
I would really like to know the need for comparing a year old chip with AMD's latest one. Had it been the opposite, I would have said the same.
Being a content creator, be ethical with the things that you do.
Why does ASUS always have monopoly on new laptop CPU launches in spite of the flak for having a shitty RMA system? I feel reviewers cannot conscionably recommend ASUS or Intel (degraded CPU issues) until their fundamental issues are resolved.
after so many years i brought AMD again , it's overrated . power saving are bullshit , i can't even work for 5 hours with 70whr battery at power saving mode. next laptop i sure go for Intel , the benchmark most of time are cheated result .
and it's lacking so obvious when i using right click at Win 11 desktop , integrate GPU are very lousy , it's keep lacking even using Performance mode . i don't have this problem with Intel so call lousy GPU .
Occurs to me I've been watching your videos a bit more than a year now (having first heard about the channel from Tim and Steve on HUB). I like what you're doing - Its "boring"... In the sense that you've stayed focused squarely on the hardware/topics you cover. I prefer that style - I want to know about whatever is being reviewed/discussed without wasting half the video on extraneous nonsense. Guys spending time inventing new skits for every video or scripting another lame "adult" joke accomplish nothing towards improving the review itself - I'm not 16 anymore and haven't been in a long time. Obviously tech channels have been successful doing "crazy" videos - That style simply isn't for me anymore.
@JarrodsTech I have a P16 Proart with HX370 with an RTX 4060, should I get the same 10+ battery life for wifi video playback like the G16 HX370 in this video?
Hey what is best laptop please compare this msi raider 18 hx i9 14900hx vs 7945hx because 7945hx has good benchmark score then why I am go to the i9 14900hx any special that this processor please help not on video RUclips platforms for 7945hx vs i9 14900hx which one is better' using price comparison
Is the intel ultra 9 185h a safer option than i9-13900hx? I'm planning to buy a laptop so I would appreciate your help on this. Amd powered laptops are not many where I'm from so I might have to settle for intel
Intel is going blitzkrieg on AMD for low price consumer laptops. Intel got HP, Asus, and Acer to pull all AMD models out of BJ's stores and stock only Intel laptops.
The power efficiency did you check wattages at the wall or just the change to each wattage in BIOS? Anandtech have a test with desktop cpus, 7950x set @ 105watt draw the same power as 13900k set @ 125w at the wall for example, Intel still get beat though :D
Windows 11 is why the heck still slowing down AMD Performance... If you would do the same test in Windows 10, I bet all games perform better on AMD, cause in Windows 10 this Intel Preference hasn't occured
These new AMD cpu's are so good, glad to see massive power efficiency gains and battery life performance from x86 parts
When the Lunar lake stuff comes out, would also be nice to get a similar video comparing the HX370 to the 288v, from early first party benchmarks it looks a lot more competitive
It's been a while since we've had a CPU comparison. Although the only thing I dislike about either of these is that due to most of its components being internal, upgradeability goes down the drain.
There hasn't been much to compare with the main gaming laptop processors just being rebrands of 2023 models :) probably a lot more next year.
@@JarrodsTech hopefully a lot more next year. Still thanks for the comparison. Good reference for the future.
@joelconolly5574, u can buy a laptop w.o dGPU and connect iGPU via Oculink (PCI-E 4.0 x4)
Matlab is probably checking processor name and if it isn't Intel, not enabling SSE/AVX vectorisation. No reason intel should beat AMD by 30% unless they've fucked up somehow.
Hi Jarrod, I wanna see this same comparasion but with a Intel Core Ultra 9 288V, will be a fantastic battle!!
Hey Jarrod!
If im not mistaken, based on what Hardware Canucks tested, Asus has biased tendency towards intel cpu. Somehow in same laptop model, intel cpu always got lower result compared to AMD based one. Especially in synthetic benchmark. If you don't mind i will leave the comparison video link below
Why are using Intel naming style of P & E for AMD Zen & ZenC? ZenC is not an E core, it's a full fledged Zen core made more compact . Are you implying your audience is too dumb to understand the difference?
Where? All the CPU benchmark graphs list 4Z5+8Z5C (which let's be real, is a bit of a mess to people who have never heard of Zen 5c).
If you mean during the specs, I guess it was an oversight, but still but of a weird comment when I clearly use AMD's terminology for the majority of the video.
@@JarrodsTech true you did only use it in the list of specs. You didn't use it through out your video. I guess I'm just used to that most once using the wrong term continue to through out a video. Sorry for lumping you in with everyone else, not fair to you. It was a good video and comparison.
The review was very informative. You covered not only the comparison of two comparable laptops, you also offered different power levels to simulate different configurations.
Thank you.
Hi Jarrod, is the CP2077 igpu test correct? I'm asking because RX6600, a desktop gpu that gets around 60fps on that game, 1080p high and native res no fsr
If that fps number is indeed correct thats freaking impressive tbh
I want the AMD
I want the AMD
But I'm very very poor - Oh deary me!!
I'm weeping piteously at my hideous lack of finance! 😜😅😅🤪🤣😅
I couldn't find any information of release date of next generation amd laptops(9000th series). Do you have any idea when new amd laptops will be released?Cuz i dont wanna go with intel 14th gen or ryzen 7000th
1080p high at 60fps on cyberpunk is actually crazy on an integrated gpu. amd is just in a league of its own as far as igpu is concerned, can't wait for strix halo to drop, also z2 extreme handhelds will probably use the same rx890m
Waiting on your Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2024) Review with the 4090. I feel as if you have compared almost all other comparable laptop in that range. Would be interesting to see how it holds up.
Damn even across 20 games average, AMD is only 0.3% ahead on AVERAGE? Can't wait for Intel Lunar Lake to smoke AMD in performance and efficiency
Interested to see if we can get similar configurations with Lunar Lake as you've done with Meteor Lake and Strix so that could be an upcoming video as well.
Lunar like well only have four pcie lens going to the graphics card and the other four will go to the nvme drive so it will not be available in any gaming laptop because it cannot support a dedicated GPU
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br ? Well there are dGPU-less Strix laptops like Zenbook S16 or the Vivobook S14. The difficult part is getting similar laptop configurations for both SoCs
Solid review, but i do want to comment as a awkward laptop user, its a comparison of the highest end but its strange with amd's 4+8 and intels 6+10 so i would like to see a simple 4+8 limit on the intel CPU as interesting things might happen, (e.g E-cores typically drain P-core voltage often resulting into better boost on intel) will it change who wins? unlikely, I also have the habit of disabling HT / SMT because i dont like the idea of running 2 processes jamming into 1 lane, i would rather just have the single lane at full speed, its my niche, but seems to save a bit on battery and have less general variability, but im weird, this is how i set my things up.
Not here to say this are things you should test, would just be interesting to see though, i prioritize battery for laptops and personally sleep states didnt seem to like my AMD systems, my 13th gen lasts at least a week on sleep but thats down to many other things too i guess.