Best Laptop CPU? AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 vs Intel Core Ultra 9 185H

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +12

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    ASUS Zephyrus G16 (AMD): geni.us/ASUS-G16-AMD
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    Corrections:
    In the Cinebench graph at 3:20 the 25W value for AMD was used instead of the 35W value, as seen earlier in the power scaling graph. This is because I was originally going to do the video at 25W and 80W but found out that wasn't possible later and went to 35W instead. This only happened in Cinebench when I was getting initial results and realized I couldn't sustain the AMD laptop at 25W indefinitely with only the ASUS software.

    • @Bathri-2010
      @Bathri-2010 10 дней назад

      Sir please do a Versus comparision
      G16 Amd vs lenovo legion 7i
      Also value for price please❤

    • @Scudmaster11
      @Scudmaster11 9 дней назад +1

      The wrong CPU is one that is ARM based

    • @thundervanbrocklin2718
      @thundervanbrocklin2718 9 дней назад

      This is a fantastic video, THANK YOU!

    • @d-foxhd8369
      @d-foxhd8369 9 дней назад

      If you can, consider comparing Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Would love to see the performance difference

    • @thunderbolt_7
      @thunderbolt_7 9 дней назад +1

      Sir, I saw your video on if you find a good deal go for it so I have bought a HP omen 16 gaming laptop with an rtx 4050(120 watt) and i5-13420H and 16 GB of ddr5 ram for only $550 on microcenter. You think it's a good deal?

  • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
    @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 13 дней назад +569

    Naming schemes aside, AMD is doing exactly what I want to see in the mobile CPU space - a higher performance CPU with great efficiency, iGPU performance, great battery life and great power scaling at lower CPU wattages.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  12 дней назад +114

      I'm just glad there's more improvement compared to what Zen 5 offers on the desktop side!

    • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
      @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 12 дней назад +41

      ​@@JarrodsTechDesktop CPUs having a Zen 5% moment. 😂

    • @greebj
      @greebj 10 дней назад +34

      AMD won't get cut through even with clearly better CPUs if Intel are desperate enough to cut prices and continue doing deals. I've hardly ever seen an AMD laptop on sale ever. The all AMD alienware M18 (7945hx/7900M) is probably the best I've seen but that was such a short run I blinked and missed it 😢

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao 10 дней назад +3

      @@greebj depends on where you live i guess and the store offering the sale. In Canada, they go on sale every couple of weeks lol

    • @ehtasam2080
      @ehtasam2080 10 дней назад +8

      Lunar lake cant wait

  • @AyaWetts
    @AyaWetts 10 дней назад +2

    You can actually get FPS in Civ6... the graphics test gives you a frame time, then you can do some math to convert that to FPS.

    • @moist_ointment
      @moist_ointment 9 дней назад

      FPS tests in Civ6 are irrelevant. Both of these laptops will get enough. What matters more is AI turn time.

  • @familhagaudir8561
    @familhagaudir8561 10 дней назад +195

    I am blown away by AMD's processor integrated graphics.

    • @clarkisaac6372
      @clarkisaac6372 9 дней назад +15

      I was an Intel user for over 12 years, and I switched to the AMD platform in recent years, which is faster, cooler, and longer in either AMD's CPU or mobiles.

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br 9 дней назад +5

      Don't forget 12 hrs of youtube

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 9 дней назад

      ​@@clarkisaac6372AMD is longer?

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 9 дней назад

      Only took them 2 decades after buying ATI to finally make good APU's lmao

    • @cold-curry
      @cold-curry 9 дней назад

      ​@@GewelReal Talking about the battery-life perhaps

  • @akshayadekar9124
    @akshayadekar9124 10 дней назад +38

    This guy's review are so much detailed yet easy to understand. He also is not biased. I would 100% trust his videos to buy a laptop. Can't imagine how much time and efforts it takes to make videos these detailed.

    • @mp3butt
      @mp3butt 9 дней назад

      I totally agreed. 3 years ago I watched so many Jerrod 's videos before buying 2 Legion Pro 5 and 1 5 Slim for my family. I am still very satisfied with the purchase. Th details of his tests are simply unrivaled. Thank you Jerrod.

  • @Esalayoshitha
    @Esalayoshitha 10 дней назад +201

    I dont have money to buy this kind of a device but still decided to watch😪😂.

    • @yolbulucu
      @yolbulucu 10 дней назад +8

      just steal it my man

    • @snake2106
      @snake2106 10 дней назад +5

      Tell me ur Indian without telling me ur indian

    • @yolbulucu
      @yolbulucu 10 дней назад +5

      @@snake2106 i am Greek. 😎

    • @LouisDuran
      @LouisDuran 9 дней назад

      @@snake2106 low

    • @xgui4-studios
      @xgui4-studios 9 дней назад

      @@snake2106 why are you racist ???

  • @raghuramnarasimhan1149
    @raghuramnarasimhan1149 10 дней назад +157

    Finally, Jarrod appeared with most anticipated comparison, thank you sir.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +17

      No problem!

    • @AnkitPuniaFX
      @AnkitPuniaFX 10 дней назад +3

      Beware!! He compared latest AMD chips with last year's intel chips.

    • @danal8246
      @danal8246 9 дней назад +1

      @@AnkitPuniaFXWhat should he have compared it with then?

    • @cristiansaucedo7893
      @cristiansaucedo7893 9 дней назад

      @@danal8246theres literally an intel launch in like 5 days. arrow lake i believe? theyll need to redo this video

    • @AnkitPuniaFX
      @AnkitPuniaFX 9 дней назад

      @@danal8246 Waited for a week for fair comparison?
      Do you want him to compare latest ryzen with core 2 duo next time?

  • @auritro3903
    @auritro3903 10 дней назад +154

    With Lunar Lake releasing in 4 days, it would be really interesting to see the comparison between the 288V/268V vs the HX 370/365 :)

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +68

      I don’t think it will compete for the reasons covered in the lunar lake timestamp, but I am working on an iGPU comparison with it now

    • @Smiles216
      @Smiles216 10 дней назад +15

      I heard intel desinged lunar like that it can not be paired with a dgpu. So its impossible to use them for gaming laptops only very small devices. The lower arrow lake will probably go into the new zephyrus next year.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 10 дней назад +8

      @@Smiles216 Correct. Lunar Lake only puts out 8 PCIe lanes, four of these are Gen 5, and the other four are Gen 4. So , 4 lanes for the dGPU, another 4 for NVME storage . No way that dGPU can run optimally on 4 PCIe lanes.. Lunar Lake is a replacement for Intel 'U' series CPU . H and HS series will be replaced with Arrow Lake mobile.

    • @bfish9700
      @bfish9700 10 дней назад +5

      8 cores, no hyper threading, it would get stomped.

    • @someonetooknuggets
      @someonetooknuggets 10 дней назад +12

      For gaming laptops, arrow lake is going to be used instead of lunar lake. Coming probably in October

  • @aghbb426
    @aghbb426 10 дней назад +45

    Nice work on the comparison, but I noticed a bit of a mistake where the AMD CPU was compared at 25W against the Intel CPU at 35W. You’ve got the AMD CPU scoring 881 at 25W and 1041 at 35W around 2:32, but then at 3:20, it’s shown as 881 at 35W, which is off. This mix-up could affect your other points about efficiency and value, so it might be worth a quick correction.

    • @YTech_xp
      @YTech_xp 9 дней назад +1

      ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
      Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 7 дней назад +1

      I have noticed it too.

  • @nmsumike
    @nmsumike 10 дней назад +7

    I REALLY wish they offered the AMD flavor with a 4080 mobile.... only the Intel options have it.

  • @Soul-Demon-Y
    @Soul-Demon-Y 10 дней назад +16

    Idk why but your reviews & Comparison videos are entertaining and worthy of being watched while eating food

  • @hyperspeed1313
    @hyperspeed1313 10 дней назад +18

    RUclips is planning to start running ads while paused so maybe don’t speed through graphs and tell the viewer to pause in the future (instead give a timecode to skip ahead)

    • @RubyKaneki
      @RubyKaneki 9 дней назад +3

      use adblocker xd or buy youtube premium

    • @hyperspeed1313
      @hyperspeed1313 9 дней назад

      @@RubyKaneki oh, I already do both, but this is more an ask for the less tech savvy in the audience

    • @elkoku2002
      @elkoku2002 8 дней назад +2

      Let them eat the ad, we need time stamps

  • @TrusteftTech
    @TrusteftTech 10 дней назад +6

    That the Ryzen iGPU can almost touch 60fps at 1080 high, I assume without upscaling...very impressive. Having said that, that bar chart from Intel showing the HX370 reaching only 30s at medium...
    EDIT: To clarify, I was referring about Cyberpunk 2077.

  • @doctorzalost2436
    @doctorzalost2436 10 дней назад +5

    The intel model has an issue where it is unable to switch back to the integrated graphics unless you restart. I purchased 3 intel G16s, all new, and had the same issue. I tried all software fixes you can think of and the issue was only consistent with the USA intel model. In the end, i paid more and got the AMD version and its been excellent.

    • @HunterTracks
      @HunterTracks 10 дней назад

      I have an AMD laptop with the same issue, it'll switch to the iGPU when disconnected from power but the dGPU will remain on until restart (and will turn on after next restart even if still on battery). The only workaround I found was using hibernate, which registers as a restart for the machine, but doesn't lose work.

    • @pb4170
      @pb4170 9 дней назад

      @@HunterTracks What if you set power profile to whisper only for it to use iGPU, does it keep the dGPU disabled/powered off until you manually change to optimized power profile?

  • @rocker10039
    @rocker10039 10 дней назад +51

    I can't wait for core ultra serie 2 vs AI 300 series. This will be an anime battle🔥🔥

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +31

      I'm working on an iGPU comparison between those now!

    • @mozzinator
      @mozzinator 10 дней назад +7

      ​@JarrodsTech eagerly waiting for that video to drop. While you are at it can also compare built in encoders for both Ai300 and Ultra series 2? I have seen a few comparisons which show that Intel's Quick Sync absolutely destroys AMD In video timeline scrubbing and rendering. So it'll great if you add that into your New Comparison video

    • @ehtasam2080
      @ehtasam2080 10 дней назад +4

      ​@@mozzinatorintel quick sync 2 media engines.
      8k60 encoding decoding.
      208 fps in handbreak.
      Faster thsn m1 max m2 max n3 max 180 fps.

    • @mozzinator
      @mozzinator 10 дней назад +2

      @@ehtasam2080 that's what i want jarred to test in depth in his upcoming review of both of these new processors..

    • @rocker10039
      @rocker10039 10 дней назад

      @@JarrodsTech can't wait for the best cpu battles in a long time. ♥️

  • @RTheOne95
    @RTheOne95 10 дней назад +1

    problem with AMD is availability. OEMs offer variety of intel models from 12th to 14th gen cpu even it is 2024. Meanwhile AMD models are always out of stock.

  • @ms9001
    @ms9001 10 дней назад +6

    as expected AMD beats intel again. though both lost to 7945HX

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 10 дней назад +5

      And the 13980HX. Meteor Lake is literally worse than Raptor Lake, it is a flop.

    • @stalememe6407
      @stalememe6407 10 дней назад

      getting 10-3% higher performance while having almost half the battery life is considered "beating" to you? also apply undevolts to both cpu's and the performance of both cpu's would be the same.

    • @ms9001
      @ms9001 10 дней назад +1

      @@stalememe6407 i am talking about pure performance, there are more cpus that have better power efficiency than the 2 in the video. go use a HS processor. 10-3%? did you even check the scores? 7945HX has double the cinebench multicore score than 185h. no amount of undervolting can do that. get your facts straight first

    • @stalememe6407
      @stalememe6407 10 дней назад

      @@ms9001 Why are you comparing a cpu for thin and lights to a desktop replacement cpu... I was talking about the 13980hx vs 7945hx.

    • @ms9001
      @ms9001 10 дней назад +1

      @@stalememe6407 go watch the video on 13980hx vs 7945hx. the power scaling is way better for amd at every single wattage. i just dont see how 7945hx is half battery life of 13980hx

  • @ArcienPlaysGames
    @ArcienPlaysGames 10 дней назад +5

    I know I've said it before, but I'll happily say it again. As a massive fan of In Flames, it's so great to see yet another Jesterhead rocking the t-shirts

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 6 дней назад +2

    @4:39, they use different fans between AMD and Intel

  • @doctorzalost2436
    @doctorzalost2436 10 дней назад +4

    excellent review. I was torn between these exact two laptops but opted to go for the AMD. Despite the similar cooling setup, I noticed the AMD one had significantly lower fan noise. Also, the AMD one has a dedicated function lock which for me, was very important.

  • @RurouTube
    @RurouTube 10 дней назад +1

    Just don't use Crossmark and MATLAB. For Bapco benchmarks (including Crossmark), the sole contributor for their CPU benchmark is Intel. As for MATLAB, I believe is not that they want to favor Intel, but since by default they were using a proven libraries from Intel then it is what it is. Yes, the library is basically discriminating against non Intel CPU. On non Intel hardware, you need to tweak MATLAB so it doesn't use Intel libraries.
    Basically, just don't use Bapco product (in this case Crossmark) for benchmark and people that don't use MATLAB can safely ignore that benchmark since in real life running MATLAB on AMD system can be made faster. Personally I will throw these 2 benchmarks to the bin.

  • @mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637
    @mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637 10 дней назад +1

    Please do the gaming tests in Windows 10 & Disable Core Isolation. Microsoft has been playing favorites recently, with at least with the more than 8 core CPUs on new AMD CPU`s - the performance differences are tangible....

  • @YTech_xp
    @YTech_xp 9 дней назад +1

    ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
    Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?

  • @evannz
    @evannz 10 дней назад +1

    I really hope Lenovo will release Legion 7 gen 9 with amd processor

  • @Oneath
    @Oneath 10 дней назад +8

    09:30 I think you accidently gave the Intel CPU the frames of AMDs CPU @1080p in this chart.

    • @YTech_xp
      @YTech_xp 9 дней назад +1

      ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
      Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?

    • @Oneath
      @Oneath 9 дней назад

      @@YTech_xp yes

    • @YTech_xp
      @YTech_xp 9 дней назад +1

      @@Oneath but the rtx 4080 tgp is only 115W, not 175

    • @Oneath
      @Oneath 9 дней назад +2

      @@YTech_xp well high settings + DLSS Quality without RT should be working just fine in every game so far...

  • @hvaranhvaran
    @hvaranhvaran 10 дней назад +3

    Yeah, nope. Not risking with amd again for video work. QuickSync is king.

    • @Zxanonblade
      @Zxanonblade 9 дней назад

      Can't disagree there, especially if you have one of the newer Arc igpus that also have AV1 encoding

  • @laicheng6558
    @laicheng6558 10 дней назад +17

    2:43 hx370 35W TDP 1041 score
    3:25 hx370 35W TDP 881 score
    there a mistake???

    • @Just_An_Ignacio
      @Just_An_Ignacio 10 дней назад

      Seems likely

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 10 дней назад +3

      I saw the same . Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W.

    • @laicheng6558
      @laicheng6558 10 дней назад +2

      also the performance per watt 4:02 on 35W hx370 should wrong.

    • @YTech_xp
      @YTech_xp 9 дней назад +1

      ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16 Laptop - 16" WQXGA OLED 240Hz -Intel Core Ultra 9 185H - RTX 4080 (115W) - 32GB RAM -
      Can I game in ultra/high settings for the next 3 years?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  7 дней назад +2

      Pinned comment updated. The power scaling score is correct, I accidentally put the 25W into the Cinebench graph because I was originally going to use a 25W/80W split when making the video but changed it after making that first graph.

  • @Tatar_Piano
    @Tatar_Piano 7 дней назад +1

    Intel is horribly atrocious, it only achieves similar performance at 65 watts while amd only need 35, that is just crazy

  • @CalQdeX
    @CalQdeX 9 дней назад +3

    It's so rare to get a complete apples to apples comparison like this with the exact same model of laptop, this is awesome, thank you!

  • @Hubwood
    @Hubwood 10 дней назад +8

    Yay great testing Jarrod.
    I just love the HX370. But I'm really looking forward to the Core Ultra 2 Series aswell :D

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 10 дней назад +1

      Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W.
      3:25 AMD AI370 @ 35W 881 score which is lower than 2:43 .

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  9 дней назад +1

      Working on that now :)

    • @alderlake12th
      @alderlake12th 9 дней назад

      @@vmafarah9473 The Core Ultra 200 just a way more efficiently than

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 7 дней назад +1

      @@alderlake12th . Also 2:43 Intel needed 60W to match AMD at 30W. The comparison on 3:25 was a mistake.

    • @alderlake12th
      @alderlake12th 7 дней назад

      @@vmafarah9473 The 200V is way efficiently than the 100H
      200V can't match hx370 cause the core count

  • @bhagatsinghfan4037
    @bhagatsinghfan4037 3 дня назад +1

    AMD at 45W gives more performance compare to intel 90W 😳

  • @Aquineas
    @Aquineas 10 дней назад +3

    Thank you for your efforts. I'll be on the market for a laptop in the next 60 days and your videos have been helpful in my research.

  • @RathaSiv
    @RathaSiv 10 дней назад +36

    Why expecting Lunar Lake on gaming laptop?? Lunar Lake is exclusively for thin and light ultrabook/notebook and it is never meant for gaming or high performance laptops. I guess only Arrow Lake mobile CPU is the only option for gaming laptop from team blue.
    Edited (Added explanation): Lunar Lake platform is a System-on-Chip (SoC) which consists of CPU+GPU+RAM which is mainly designed for extreme power efficiency and is meant for thin and light Ultrabook. I don't think Lunar Lake will ever be paired with any dedicated GPU, and this makes the upcoming Arrow Lake mobile CPU the only option for gaming laptop. Lunar Lake is meant to compete with other SoC like Apple's M series and Snapdragon Elite, etc.

    • @Just_An_Ignacio
      @Just_An_Ignacio 10 дней назад +13

      A lot of people ignored that fact said by Intel itself. But i don't blame them, Intel has been building insane hype over Lunar Lake being a revolution for x86, so people may think the aechitecture is capable of more than thin and light laptops.

    • @danielrouw2593
      @danielrouw2593 10 дней назад +2

      if you watched the video, the gap in performance gets worse at the low end. AMD will be nearly twice the performance in thin and light envelopes.

    • @AnkitPuniaFX
      @AnkitPuniaFX 10 дней назад +3

      @@danielrouw2593 Wait for intel's latest processors which launched recently.

    • @danielrouw2593
      @danielrouw2593 10 дней назад +3

      @@AnkitPuniaFX wait for amds next cpus. That argument goes on forever. A 2x generational uplift is unheard of. Lunar lake is mostly a change in fab. The ecores look like they may be a significant improvement but at the lower tdps other parts of the cpu package become the major consumers of power so i find intels claims of over 2x to be desperate nonsense.

    • @AnkitPuniaFX
      @AnkitPuniaFX 10 дней назад +4

      @@danielrouw2593 Isn't it smart to compare the latest from Team Blue and Team Red? I'm not a fanboy, but I need to pick between Intel and Mac for productivity (though I'll wait on Apple until I can afford it).

  • @moist_ointment
    @moist_ointment 9 дней назад +2

    Excellent work. This is a good way to review gaming laptops: actual efficiency comparisons that include different power limits.
    Would like to see a little portion added that includes day to day livability, like whats the power draw if you close the lid and leave it overnight.

  • @chipsnahoy7268
    @chipsnahoy7268 10 дней назад +2

    Looking at the gaming performance of AMD's iGPU, I'm interested in comparing the gaming performance with 80W CPU+iGPU with a 35W power limited CPU + 45W dGPU (if limiting the dGPU's power that low is even possible).

    • @Deeptesh97
      @Deeptesh97 10 дней назад

      A 45W 3050 will still be 15% better on average due to much greater memory bandwidth. AMD iGPUs can never beat modern dGPUs unless they solve the memory bandwidth issue by adding infinity cache.
      AMD's best iGPU still can't beat their worst dGPU (of same generation).

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 7 дней назад

      2:43 hx370 35W TDP 1041 score
      3:25 hx370 35W TDP 881 score
      there a mistake???

  • @jamieking3124
    @jamieking3124 10 дней назад +2

    What ever happened to the Ryzen 9 7945HX? Puts both of these CPUs to sleep.

    • @Deeptesh97
      @Deeptesh97 10 дней назад +1

      It's a desktop CPU soldered on to laptop mobo. It's only available in a few thick gaming laptops. It also has terrible battery life due to not being monolithic.

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 10 дней назад +1

    Shame Intel bribed nvidia to prevent any AMD laptop using any nvidia chip better than a 4070 :/

  • @sighheinrich
    @sighheinrich 10 дней назад +4

    I'm proud of you Jarrod.
    Been here since the beginning where I was a bit hard on you. You took it in stride and that's why I will never unsubscribe.

  • @tash_views
    @tash_views 10 дней назад +1

    185 multiplied by 2 is 370
    There you go, get the 370

  • @I-PixALbI4-I
    @I-PixALbI4-I 10 дней назад +4

    These CPUs could have much more power if NPU do not take up SOC space.

  • @leakyabstraction
    @leakyabstraction 9 дней назад +1

    Why on Earth would you waste time testing (and comparing against AMD's latest high-end mobile CPU) a Meteor Lake laptop when Lunar Lake is out, with supposedly significant improvements, especially on iGPU?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  7 дней назад

      Discussed here:
      17:12 What About Intel’s New Lunar Lake?

  • @bhagatsinghfan4037
    @bhagatsinghfan4037 3 дня назад +1

    5:20 AMD at 35W has take same time as intel at 80W 😮

  • @electricmiragemedia
    @electricmiragemedia 10 дней назад +1

    Expect significantly lower single core and multi-core benchmarks with Lunar Lake compared to Ryzen HX 370. Gaming should be be competitive, however, and battery life even better on Lunar.

  • @lennard9331
    @lennard9331 10 дней назад +11

    One thing that's interesting about Strix Point is the fact that AMD's curve optimiser works on ASUS laptops, both with G-Helper and universal x86 tuning utility, which has given me upwards of 10% better multi-core performance at anything below 60W because it allows the Zen5c cores to hit their max boost clock of 3.3GHz at anything above 45W while the Zen5 cores managed to boost above 4.7GHz all core at 60W+ power limit.
    This was on the TUF A14, so I'd expect the better cooling of the Zephyrus to perform a bit better than the A14 thanks to lower temps.

    • @avetruetocaesar3463
      @avetruetocaesar3463 10 дней назад +2

      Good of you to share this knowledge, thanks. How about the curve shaper? And does Ryzen Master finally work on laptops?

    • @lennard9331
      @lennard9331 10 дней назад

      @@avetruetocaesar3463 no news about curve shaper or Ryzen Master coming to laptops, but if you happen to buy an ASUS Zen5 laptop, I highly recommend G-helper instead of Armoury Crate and most of the rest of ASUS' bloatware, it controls everything from curve optimiser to CPU and GPU power and GPU OC as well as the fan curve and a bunch of other options while consuming absolutely no resources. And that's already a great start, I got my HX370 to go 4.8GHz+3.3GHz in most workloads while plugged in and reduce total system power consumption below 5W while on battery. Some aspects of the software are clunky, given it's entirely open source, but it's been a great boon so far.

  • @TheUAProdigy
    @TheUAProdigy 10 дней назад +1

    AMD is clearly better in most metrics and people will still buy the intel version more. People don't deserve nice things, it's clear that we prefer monopolies.

    • @Zxanonblade
      @Zxanonblade 9 дней назад

      Or it's just that people aren't well informed and lack the knowledge to care about just a computer. People also generally go with what's "safer" and more comfortable, which is often Intel because of their earlier tactics against AMD.

    • @ProfestionalCrayonEater
      @ProfestionalCrayonEater 8 дней назад

      @@Zxanonblade the new intel chip is actually not terrible but if you're looking for light thin and cool go for amd. having dgpu is recipe for higher temps so dont go expecting it to be cool with one.

    • @Zxanonblade
      @Zxanonblade 8 дней назад

      @@ProfestionalCrayonEater Uhh... I never said anything about the chips though? Maybe you responded to the wrong comment but I wasn't saying anything about either Intel or AMD's chips, more just why people will still pick Intel despite AMD being better in most cases.

  • @firestorm1227
    @firestorm1227 10 дней назад +3

    I happen to be getting a new laptop, but it's got the 8945HS. Still a great chip from what I've heard

  • @vncube1
    @vncube1 10 дней назад +8

    Jesus Christ, the iGPU difference is nuts!!!! Great to see Ryzen has fixed its gaming frame stability in 1% lows this time. Though it's a shame we likely won't see gaming ultrabooks with Lunar Lake. Strix Point might be the thin and light power user champ for 2025 too.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 10 дней назад +1

      Strix Halo's iGPU with 256bit memory bus will run circles around Intel mobile CPUs in iGPU test.

    • @ehtasam2080
      @ehtasam2080 10 дней назад

      ​@@fleurdewin7958arrow lake halo?

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br 9 дней назад +1

      ​@@ehtasam2080not a thing yet but it's in development. Unironically though, Medusa halo is being developed also and should launch around the same time as arrow lake halo expect that Medusa halo is projected to perform around a 5070-5080 mobile so intel Will get crushed

    • @lharsay
      @lharsay 9 дней назад +1

      The gap between RDNA 3 and Alchemist is massive. The Arc A770 and RX7600XT are built on the same TSMC 6nm node, they have roughly the same performance, but here is the catch: the A770 uses 400mm^2 silicon while the RX7600XT uses only half of that at 200mm^2.

    • @ehtasam2080
      @ehtasam2080 9 дней назад

      @@lharsay 4060 159 mm^2 115w = a770 170 watt 400mm^2
      Hope battlemage catches up ada lovelace.
      Rdna 3.5 and 4 catched up

  • @shikikanaz4624
    @shikikanaz4624 10 дней назад +2

    shame intel isnt making CPU's like they used to

    • @Just_An_Ignacio
      @Just_An_Ignacio 10 дней назад +1

      Arrow Lake mobile comes out in like a couple of months.

  • @blackhorseteck8381
    @blackhorseteck8381 10 дней назад +41

    AMD keeping SMT on the E-cores was a brilliant move.
    Edit: this is a reply to people under who think different "marketing" architecture names actually mean different actual micro architectures. Learn to read kids!

    • @MusaM8
      @MusaM8 10 дней назад +14

      They aren't E-cores, they just can't clock as high.

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp 10 дней назад +6

      @@MusaM8 Isn't that not 'efficiency'? Just because they are only gimped in clock speeds and L3 cache, rather than features, clock speeds and cache.
      The HX470 efficiency cores has half the L3 cache and is shared with 50% more cores over their P- cores

    • @TfamSoprano
      @TfamSoprano 10 дней назад +16

      I love it when AMD keeps Shin Megami Tensei

    • @Marauder-q2v
      @Marauder-q2v 9 дней назад +4

      @@Dazzxpit’s probably better to refer to them as compact cores rather than efficiency cores because these share the same architecture. It’s something Intel can’t say the same with.

    • @pham3383
      @pham3383 9 дней назад +4

      they are not e cores,they are cores with low area that have better performance at low power but saturate when feeding high power->better power density

  • @12100F
    @12100F 9 дней назад +2

    Lunar Lake is a 4+0+4 design intended to compete with the M series from Apple, not Strix Point.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  9 дней назад +1

      Indeed, but I was right to mention it in the video given how many comments are like "should have waited for LL to make this video".

    • @12100F
      @12100F 9 дней назад

      @@JarrodsTech Of course. Realistically, if you should have "waited" for anything, it would be Arrow Lake mobile, which is probably not coming out until CES 2025. Keep up the good work!

    • @rifa.3307
      @rifa.3307 9 дней назад

      @@12100F arrow lake mobile will be demolished by strix halo

    • @12100F
      @12100F 7 дней назад

      @@rifa.3307 different product segments. not even remotely comparable.

  • @akarna69
    @akarna69 10 дней назад +1

    Intel is still dogSHT! 😂

  • @oscarkarlsson8220
    @oscarkarlsson8220 10 дней назад +1

    I really want to see a comparison between the newer lunar lake cpus whenever they release with these amd ai chips.
    It's only fair since the gen 1 core ultra chips have been out for a while now.

  • @eldardb
    @eldardb 10 дней назад +1

    So that's why you tested the 4070 version of the Intel laptop. Amazing job!

  • @VeryUniqueRandomName
    @VeryUniqueRandomName 10 дней назад +1

    I own a lenovo yoga 9i with 185h processor. Almost perfect device, but unfortunately I need to connect it to two 4k displays. While connected, 4k video decoding on youtube spikes igpu to 100% and around 40-50% frames are dropped. Without external monitors being connected no video decoding issues, perfect playback.

  • @marlo8850
    @marlo8850 10 дней назад +1

    All that is great but I was happy with the performance of my CPU for like 5 generations. All I want is more efficiency and it could increase way further, especially in the mobile GPU range. I currently have an Ultra 9 185HX and Im pretty happy, tho that is 99% due to the almost perfect Yoga pro 9i.

  • @martij30
    @martij30 9 дней назад +1

    One thing worth noting on these particular Asus Zephyrus models and when comparing them: not only does the amount of RAM differ, you really should check wether your version has the OLED display or IPS.

  • @stevens2788
    @stevens2788 2 дня назад

    Hi, could you please give me a recommendation? I have $1000 for a gaming laptop and I'm looking for something with an I7 or Ryzen 7 with a 4060 and that has good battery life, performance and durability. Victus, LOQ, MSI. If you can answer me, I would appreciate it.❤

  • @LordTodd
    @LordTodd 10 дней назад +1

    This is an amazing video! Thank you for doing this and going into all the details. I will sub!

  • @FrancisRodrigues
    @FrancisRodrigues 2 дня назад

    is this a good laptop to work as AI engineer?
    Asus Zephyrus laptop 16" OLED AMDRyzen AI 9 HX 370 - RTX 4080 - 32GB RAM, 1tb SSD M2 PCIe Nvme

  • @drfleka
    @drfleka 2 дня назад

    I just don't trust Intel anymore. AMD is not the saint too. Even though both laptops are nearly identical, I would probably opt for the AMD one. Intel's long-standing market dominance has led to operating systems and many programs being better optimized for its architecture. AMD has a chance to take down Nvidia with their strategy. Having handhelds and consoles running their chips. Therefore, games will run much better on their GPUs in the near future. But back to the video. Both laptops are really great. A decade ago, or even just five years back, the idea of gaming on these thin laptops was unimaginable.

  • @humamahmed7724
    @humamahmed7724 9 дней назад +1

    I'm I the only one that see AMD laptop..is much more clearer and better look
    Especially the keyboard..
    I'm I wrong?

  • @slavak7729
    @slavak7729 7 дней назад +1

    Useless AI processors . Need normal fp32, fp64 performance. Nothing to do with int8, int4 tensor product computers

  • @BestFriendOfDog
    @BestFriendOfDog 10 дней назад +1

    MATLAB uses Intel MKL libraries by default, did you change to AOCL amd libraries before running your tests?

  • @LaptopDealsEU
    @LaptopDealsEU 10 дней назад +18

    A huge plus is that Intel's iGPU is finally able to compete with AMD's, which is a huge improvement over the old Iris Xe iGPUs.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +20

      I'm working on an iGPU comparison between Lunar Lake and this AMD chip now so we'll see :)

    • @antalpoti
      @antalpoti 10 дней назад +2

      @@JarrodsTech Why tho? They don't compete with each other. A more sensible comparison would be either LNL against Kraken, or Strix Point against Arrow Lake H, when they are released of course.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 10 дней назад +10

      ​@@antalpoti yeah no, we'll test things that are out now rather than waiting for future.

    • @awalay-wz3nh
      @awalay-wz3nh 10 дней назад +3

      ​@@antalpoti???? What is this logic. This is their best current so obviously that's what should be compared. With your logic, when Intel releases it's new igpu, i can just say "that's a bad comparison, you should do it vs (insert even future unreleased amd igpu that will obviously be better)"

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 10 дней назад +2

      The 680m and 780m are such a blessing for mobile gamers. The iris XE is 4 years old, and is the successor to the *shudders Intel UHD.
      I'm so happy we could move on from that.

  • @JanVP1
    @JanVP1 7 дней назад

    Those Intel-problems with 13th and 14th gen: is that desktop only or laptop processors too?
    At work (so: no gaming at all), HP lets us choose between Intel U5-125U and AMD Ryzen 5 7535U. Their respective PassMark CPU scores are 17784/3387 (MT/single thread) and 17048/3216. That makes Intel 4.3%/5.3% faster and 6.3% more expensive. Are the recent problems reason to leave Intel and go AMD for a few years?

  • @Ragnaraz690
    @Ragnaraz690 4 дня назад

    Nice comparison, though IIRC, you can use UXTU to core offset the 370 and it's iGPU, to get even more performance. Alas the Intel chip is locked down. I do think this is definitely a win for AMD here.

  • @PhilfreezeCH
    @PhilfreezeCH 8 дней назад

    Now you go tell Lenovo to please make a Ryzen AI 2-in-1 in the first place and then also offer a 32GB variant.
    Currently only the Lenovo Yoga 7i (i stands for Intel) has a 32GB RAM option. The Yoga 7 (nothing stands for AMD) with the 8000 series only has a 16GB variant.
    Lenovo currently has a very confusing lineup. They almost always have other differences besides just the CPU being AMD or Intel. I get the feeling there is some kickback stuff involved there.
    As another example, you can only get certain screen (eg high-res OLED) on the Intel machines despite other manufacturers having AMD with similar displays so it is not a technical limitation.

  • @Enzo_560
    @Enzo_560 9 дней назад

    Jarrod, could we get a comparison between the RTX 3050 4gb versus the new RTX 3050 6gb? On the desktop side RTX 3050 got a downgrade with its 6gb version, I think it’d be good to know if the 6gb laptop 3050 (hopefully) either has equal performance to the original with 2gb more vram or better performance.

  • @craigdawson7632
    @craigdawson7632 8 дней назад

    Thanks for the vid.
    What about drivers, support and compatibility?
    Things like high load on data transfer with a USB C/thunderbolt 4 to Ethernet dongle.
    OC potential at the higher end of stable.
    Utilization of other components like RAM, Storage, GPU with different CPUs when they are under multiple loads.

  • @zloezlo
    @zloezlo 8 дней назад

    I have 155H laptop and it's a miserable trash. It can perform well only in 50+W with temperatures over 90 celsius constantly. Drivers were absoluttely terrible until August but even since GPU performance in real games is a garbage. The only scenario core ultra is good for - watch RUclips and work with text, including coding if your target framework is not CPU-hungry. Do not buy intel, it's a moneywaste.

  • @Torashin1
    @Torashin1 9 дней назад

    This is an absolute bloodbath 😂
    Also since when did iGPUs run games like cyberpunk at 1080p high @ 60fps?! That’s mental.
    It doesn’t feel that long ago I was trying trying to run Skyrim 720p low at like 25fps

  • @marcm.
    @marcm. 9 дней назад

    Nvidia could use the extra 15 watts. AMD seems to max out, or as good as it matters, at 65 watts. Which means if you cap it around 65 Watts, it will still beat an Intel CPU at 80 or 85 Watts... That's not a good look. Obviously I would never run that particular AMD CPU above 65 Watts after watching your chart. Which would increase a little bit battery time on anything that's demanding, though it probably wouldn't change the battery time for RUclips video. It also means it gives me 15 to 20 watts to work with on the GPU side of the thing. An Nvidia does do better with the higher wattage or TDP. Those 20 watts might actually be of use on that 4070

  • @KevinEnjoyer
    @KevinEnjoyer 10 дней назад +1

    The new Ryzen CPU is so good, but also so expensive. A bottom spec TUF A14 is 571 dollars cheaper than a top spec one where I live. I cheaped out, and honestly, the Ryzen 7 8845HS is plenty for me.

    • @mariuspuiu9555
      @mariuspuiu9555 10 дней назад

      new laptops are always expensive. give it another 6 months for prices to come down :)

  • @andreaorsini752
    @andreaorsini752 5 дней назад

    How muvh ud the diffetence betewen Ultra 9 285 H and Ultra 7 155H? I 've found an offer on Asus Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 below 1000 $.

  • @cezarras
    @cezarras 7 дней назад

    Maybe comparation of Thinpad p16 gen 2 NVIDIA RTX 5000 Ada 16GB with razor blade 16 and lenovo i9 maxed out because i am wondering what to buy?

  • @vishnuvarmand8358
    @vishnuvarmand8358 9 дней назад

    IMO, this comparison isn't fair. 370HX vs ultra 9 285HX.
    I would really like to know the need for comparing a year old chip with AMD's latest one. Had it been the opposite, I would have said the same.
    Being a content creator, be ethical with the things that you do.

  • @ChinchillaBONK
    @ChinchillaBONK 9 дней назад

    Why does ASUS always have monopoly on new laptop CPU launches in spite of the flak for having a shitty RMA system? I feel reviewers cannot conscionably recommend ASUS or Intel (degraded CPU issues) until their fundamental issues are resolved.

  • @vincentdoubt
    @vincentdoubt 9 дней назад

    after so many years i brought AMD again , it's overrated . power saving are bullshit , i can't even work for 5 hours with 70whr battery at power saving mode. next laptop i sure go for Intel , the benchmark most of time are cheated result .
    and it's lacking so obvious when i using right click at Win 11 desktop , integrate GPU are very lousy , it's keep lacking even using Performance mode . i don't have this problem with Intel so call lousy GPU .

  • @Bluestreak589
    @Bluestreak589 10 дней назад

    Occurs to me I've been watching your videos a bit more than a year now (having first heard about the channel from Tim and Steve on HUB). I like what you're doing - Its "boring"... In the sense that you've stayed focused squarely on the hardware/topics you cover. I prefer that style - I want to know about whatever is being reviewed/discussed without wasting half the video on extraneous nonsense. Guys spending time inventing new skits for every video or scripting another lame "adult" joke accomplish nothing towards improving the review itself - I'm not 16 anymore and haven't been in a long time. Obviously tech channels have been successful doing "crazy" videos - That style simply isn't for me anymore.

  • @pb4170
    @pb4170 9 дней назад

    @JarrodsTech I have a P16 Proart with HX370 with an RTX 4060, should I get the same 10+ battery life for wifi video playback like the G16 HX370 in this video?

  • @prasadghadigaonkar1370
    @prasadghadigaonkar1370 9 дней назад

    Hey what is best laptop please compare this msi raider 18 hx i9 14900hx vs 7945hx because 7945hx has good benchmark score then why I am go to the i9 14900hx any special that this processor please help not on video RUclips platforms for 7945hx vs i9 14900hx which one is better' using price comparison

  • @johnnyrichy
    @johnnyrichy 5 дней назад

    Is the intel ultra 9 185h a safer option than i9-13900hx? I'm planning to buy a laptop so I would appreciate your help on this. Amd powered laptops are not many where I'm from so I might have to settle for intel

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 6 дней назад

    Intel is going blitzkrieg on AMD for low price consumer laptops. Intel got HP, Asus, and Acer to pull all AMD models out of BJ's stores and stock only Intel laptops.

  • @ImDembe
    @ImDembe 9 дней назад

    The power efficiency did you check wattages at the wall or just the change to each wattage in BIOS? Anandtech have a test with desktop cpus, 7950x set @ 105watt draw the same power as 13900k set @ 125w at the wall for example, Intel still get beat though :D

  • @FunFoxHD
    @FunFoxHD 9 дней назад

    Windows 11 is why the heck still slowing down AMD Performance... If you would do the same test in Windows 10, I bet all games perform better on AMD, cause in Windows 10 this Intel Preference hasn't occured

  • @ActionManXVI
    @ActionManXVI 9 дней назад

    These new AMD cpu's are so good, glad to see massive power efficiency gains and battery life performance from x86 parts
    When the Lunar lake stuff comes out, would also be nice to get a similar video comparing the HX370 to the 288v, from early first party benchmarks it looks a lot more competitive

  • @joelconolly5574
    @joelconolly5574 10 дней назад +11

    It's been a while since we've had a CPU comparison. Although the only thing I dislike about either of these is that due to most of its components being internal, upgradeability goes down the drain.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  10 дней назад +4

      There hasn't been much to compare with the main gaming laptop processors just being rebrands of 2023 models :) probably a lot more next year.

    • @joelconolly5574
      @joelconolly5574 10 дней назад

      @@JarrodsTech hopefully a lot more next year. Still thanks for the comparison. Good reference for the future.

    • @vvhitevvizard_
      @vvhitevvizard_ 10 дней назад

      @joelconolly5574, u can buy a laptop w.o dGPU and connect iGPU via Oculink (PCI-E 4.0 x4)

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 10 дней назад

    Matlab is probably checking processor name and if it isn't Intel, not enabling SSE/AVX vectorisation. No reason intel should beat AMD by 30% unless they've fucked up somehow.

  • @ferandare
    @ferandare 2 дня назад

    Hi Jarrod, I wanna see this same comparasion but with a Intel Core Ultra 9 288V, will be a fantastic battle!!

  • @fardzanrukmana3120
    @fardzanrukmana3120 9 дней назад

    Hey Jarrod!
    If im not mistaken, based on what Hardware Canucks tested, Asus has biased tendency towards intel cpu. Somehow in same laptop model, intel cpu always got lower result compared to AMD based one. Especially in synthetic benchmark. If you don't mind i will leave the comparison video link below

  • @tj_2701
    @tj_2701 7 дней назад +1

    Why are using Intel naming style of P & E for AMD Zen & ZenC? ZenC is not an E core, it's a full fledged Zen core made more compact . Are you implying your audience is too dumb to understand the difference?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  7 дней назад +1

      Where? All the CPU benchmark graphs list 4Z5+8Z5C (which let's be real, is a bit of a mess to people who have never heard of Zen 5c).
      If you mean during the specs, I guess it was an oversight, but still but of a weird comment when I clearly use AMD's terminology for the majority of the video.

    • @tj_2701
      @tj_2701 7 дней назад +1

      @@JarrodsTech true you did only use it in the list of specs. You didn't use it through out your video. I guess I'm just used to that most once using the wrong term continue to through out a video. Sorry for lumping you in with everyone else, not fair to you. It was a good video and comparison.

  • @michaelprinc
    @michaelprinc 9 дней назад +1

    The review was very informative. You covered not only the comparison of two comparable laptops, you also offered different power levels to simulate different configurations.
    Thank you.

  • @mehmetpolat7718
    @mehmetpolat7718 10 дней назад

    Hi Jarrod, is the CP2077 igpu test correct? I'm asking because RX6600, a desktop gpu that gets around 60fps on that game, 1080p high and native res no fsr
    If that fps number is indeed correct thats freaking impressive tbh

  • @tumslucks9781
    @tumslucks9781 10 дней назад

    I want the AMD
    I want the AMD
    But I'm very very poor - Oh deary me!!
    I'm weeping piteously at my hideous lack of finance! 😜😅😅🤪🤣😅

  • @ahmettarikyanik
    @ahmettarikyanik 7 дней назад

    I couldn't find any information of release date of next generation amd laptops(9000th series). Do you have any idea when new amd laptops will be released?Cuz i dont wanna go with intel 14th gen or ryzen 7000th

  • @drushed7387
    @drushed7387 9 дней назад

    1080p high at 60fps on cyberpunk is actually crazy on an integrated gpu. amd is just in a league of its own as far as igpu is concerned, can't wait for strix halo to drop, also z2 extreme handhelds will probably use the same rx890m

  • @quinniannone8408
    @quinniannone8408 9 дней назад

    Waiting on your Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2024) Review with the 4090. I feel as if you have compared almost all other comparable laptop in that range. Would be interesting to see how it holds up.

  • @KeyT3ch
    @KeyT3ch 10 дней назад

    Damn even across 20 games average, AMD is only 0.3% ahead on AVERAGE? Can't wait for Intel Lunar Lake to smoke AMD in performance and efficiency

  • @NootNoot.
    @NootNoot. 10 дней назад +2

    Interested to see if we can get similar configurations with Lunar Lake as you've done with Meteor Lake and Strix so that could be an upcoming video as well.

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br 9 дней назад

      Lunar like well only have four pcie lens going to the graphics card and the other four will go to the nvme drive so it will not be available in any gaming laptop because it cannot support a dedicated GPU

    • @NootNoot.
      @NootNoot. 9 дней назад

      @@NadeemAhmed-nv2br ? Well there are dGPU-less Strix laptops like Zenbook S16 or the Vivobook S14. The difficult part is getting similar laptop configurations for both SoCs

  • @drunksupportcharacter
    @drunksupportcharacter 10 дней назад

    Solid review, but i do want to comment as a awkward laptop user, its a comparison of the highest end but its strange with amd's 4+8 and intels 6+10 so i would like to see a simple 4+8 limit on the intel CPU as interesting things might happen, (e.g E-cores typically drain P-core voltage often resulting into better boost on intel) will it change who wins? unlikely, I also have the habit of disabling HT / SMT because i dont like the idea of running 2 processes jamming into 1 lane, i would rather just have the single lane at full speed, its my niche, but seems to save a bit on battery and have less general variability, but im weird, this is how i set my things up.
    Not here to say this are things you should test, would just be interesting to see though, i prioritize battery for laptops and personally sleep states didnt seem to like my AMD systems, my 13th gen lasts at least a week on sleep but thats down to many other things too i guess.